November 2, 2023 • 21 mins
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Strap in for a ride as we swing between hammer strikes and dancebeats with our extraordinary guest, Atticus Ray. Not just your everyday house builder, Atticus also rules the stage as a percussion dancer, showcasing his versatile talents in the acclaimed Rhythm With Views show on Amazon Prime and Apple TV. It's all about the blueprint - for both homes and dance routines - and Atticus shares how he brings these visions to life with the help of a fantastic team. Stay tuned as he reveals exciting details about his upcoming stage show, American Thunder.
But that’s not all! Atticus, a long time advocate for getting kids involved in dance and music, has big plans to inspire the youth. His forthcoming after-school program is set to provide a unique platform for children to explore their potential through the rhythm of dance. You'll hear his innovative ideas for serving children who lack access to organized dance programs, and how he aims to use music and rhythm as tools to keep kids positively engaged. Get ready to tap into an exhilarating world where dance and construction harmoniously collide!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, this is Brad Wiseman.
You're listening to Real Estateand you we are back with a very
special guest, a very differentguest.
I think you guys are gonna beblown away by this show.
We have a guy here that got intouch with me, of course, about
Real Estate, but then, as westarted looking at things and I
started looking at his resume,he doesn't just do Real Estate,
(00:23):
he also is a percussion dancer.
So tap dancer, percussiondancer, whatever you wanna call
that, and that's what he does.
But he also builds houses.
So we're gonna bring him onright now.
His name is Atticus Ray Atticus.
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
doing man, man, I'm fantastic.
How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I'm doing great.
I'm doing great now that I'mtalking to you.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, well, yeah, I'm excited.
I've been looking forward tothis.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah, me too.
Me too, you know, I keeptelling people they ask who's
your next guest, who's your nextguest?
And I'm like you're not gonnabelieve this.
I got this guy.
That's like an amazing dancer.
He's danced all over the worldand I was looking at some of the
stuff of where you've danced.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I mean you've danced at the Grand Ole Opry, I mean
you've been at the Grand OleOpry on tour opening for
actually a classic Bill Monroeand the Bluegrass Boys and Ricky
Skaggs, and they were doing thetour and so I had a chance to
perform for that and that wasreally I was early in my career
and you know just kind ofactually a kid still, wow, and
(01:18):
that just kind of opened my eyesup to you know, the
possibilities, cause back then Iwas just a clogger, you know
just.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I love the clogging thing.
There's a place at Disney it'scalled I forget what it's called
.
My wife always rememberedthere's a place in Disney, at
Disney World, and it's in DisneySprings and they do clogging.
It's an Irish pub and they doclogging right on stage and they
do it pretty much throughoutthe night and that's one of my
favorite things to watch.
It's so fun, it's so energizing.
It is.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Even if you're not doing it, it just.
It energizes the room and-.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
No, God knows, you wouldn't want to see me do that,
Just like you put clogs on me.
It's not gonna be.
It's not gonna go so well, Notgonna go so well, you might sell
out.
Yeah, I'll sell out, all right,and I'll break my leg or
something.
So let's go back.
So you have this show.
What really really piqued myinterest was, you know, I guess
somebody reached out to me andsaid, hey, this guy would be
wanna be a good candidate foryour podcast.
(02:09):
I'm like all right, and I get alot of that.
So I'm like looking downthrough, I'm like, well, wait a
minute, this guy dances and hebuilds homes, and you're also of
a show that's on Amazon Primeand Apple TV called Rhythm With
Views.
Tell me about this.
I mean, you're a builder.
I mean, how do you go from?
And we know you were dancingwhen you were young, but you go
into building and now you'reback into dancing and building
together.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I, you know, my life was just several directions.
I always felt like I was doingall these different things and
trying to make it make sense.
And I ran into the producer anddirector and we started talking
and over a period of time, Iactually started out with doing
this as a musical, like afeature film, and we converted
it into doing a reality show,Just because there was so much
(02:52):
there we couldn't really bringit out, and just in a film or
there would be a lot that we'dmiss.
And so as we started to bringit together though it was such a
unique he kept saying it's sucha unique.
You know, life, You're doingthese two crazy things, you know
.
And but as I started to look atit and we started to put it
together, they're actually verysimilar, because when I do these
(03:12):
dance productions, or whetherI'm building homes, you sort of
start from scratch.
You know there's a blank slateand requires a vision, and then
followed by a blueprint of somesort and your plans on paper,
and then you get the people thatyou need to help, you know, do
the production or build the home, and really they're very
similar in that way.
(03:33):
And and I had these two careerswhere I was.
I was putting people togetherand talent to create things out
of thin air, and and they're.
They're two separate worlds,but very similar in the way that
they function.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So it's incredible and I watched, I watched the
teaser and then I watched yourfirst episode, the teaser, and
I'm watching this and you'redancing everywhere.
You're dancing in, like youknow there's a, there's a part
in the first episode whereyou're going to get lumber, I
think, or whatever, and you'reat the desk and you're talking
to this older gentleman and yougo to get lumber.
The next thing, you know, youopen the door and you're in the
back warehouse area.
(04:05):
You're tap dance.
You're doing your dance to thewarehouse on top of lumber, on
top of the tractor or thebackhoe I think was there.
You're doing everything.
I mean, that's very unique.
Most people don't dance there.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Well, I'm glad you noticed that, cause the director
asked me to, you know, toreally take dancing to a new
level, like how can we dosomething different?
And you know, as we werethinking, you know, dancing is
typically done two-dimensionally, just on a flat stage, right,
right, a flat environment.
And I said, well, why don't we,why don't we take it out into
the world, why don't we make theworld the stage?
And we just got real literalwith that and those were not set
(04:40):
up scenes and some kind of amovie thing.
When you do a reality show, you, you get on site, you kind of
scout it out, you have, you havea time there, yes, to set some
things up, but the reality isthat was all choreographed on
site.
It's awesome Working with, like, the high lows and the semi
trucks, and I don't want to gettoo much away, but I mean it was
.
You know, we basically wantedto make the world the stage and
(05:05):
take it into like athree-dimensional, you know,
sort of aspect where you know,and I'm literally tapping on
surfaces I do not recommendpeople to do if you're not
knowing what they're doing,cause I mean it is very
dangerous.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, Well, the one.
I have to say this, the onethat really gets me, and this is
what's going to make peoplewant to just check this out.
You know, if I don't thinkanybody has ever seen anybody
dance or tap dance in a creek ornear a waterfall or on in water
, I mean, did you have specialshoes for that, or are you just?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
using your regular shoes.
Yeah, the taps that I had, wedanced.
It was a waterfall that camedown and it had sort of like
this shallow area where thewater would be flowing over it
and we decided, wow, that'salmost like a stage right at the
base of that waterfall and sowe were doing some scenes near
the river and we're like let'sjust take it to the next level.
(05:55):
And so we took like a couple ofmillion dollars worth of
equipment out into the river and, you know, and everyone was
real nervous and but it was, theshots turned out great, though.
Yeah, it was all on site.
I really can't stress thatenough.
You know there was.
There was no movie magic, youknow, going on it was.
It was really when you doreality shows, you have to scout
(06:17):
those sites out and then makeit happen right on the spot.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
So, yeah, it's reality.
Well, it's real.
It's what's happening at thatmoment, but it really is real.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
And you know, but yeah, you'll, you'll see some
fascinating things, and then andit goes into reality of my life
, but then it goes into thissort of, you know, um, musical
fantasy mode where you, you geta few minutes where you're,
you're not watching, uh, youknow, sort of reality TV anymore
.
You're, you're, you know, beingfully entertained and really,
(06:46):
like you said, it's somethingfor everybody and it's totally
unique.
I mean, there's really nothinglike it.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, I love, I love.
I thought it was really cool,very entertaining, very
entertaining.
It's very cool.
So let's talk about you knowyou didn't always have it.
This dancing didn't come easyfor you.
Um, I mean, I was reading aboutabout you here and you you had
some issues growing up or somechallenges.
I'd like to say growing up asfrom a kid.
I mean you you had leg bracesand things like that.
So tell me a little bit aboutyou know, the challenges you had
(07:11):
growing up and becoming adancer.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I had asthma and about 40% restriction and a lot
of allergies and then also, likeyou mentioned, leg braces and
corrective shoes.
So you know, looking back, Iprobably wouldn't be a candidate
that you would think of asbeing a world-class professional
dancer, right, and especially,you know, getting to the point
of even having my own show.
So really, kind of coming fromthat, you know, when I got
(07:36):
started, it was just simply, youknow, I couldn't really do
sports, I really couldn't doother things, and just literally
, one step at a time, basicallysort of solved my problem.
You know, correct my problem.
I just kept going and going andpushing myself.
I learned to push myself andthat, I think, really translated
out into all my business andevery other part of my life and
(07:58):
just really the challenge ofovercoming.
You know, if you look back onyour life, it's really a series
of overcoming challenges andwhat you make of that, and so I
really feel like that part ofthat led me to, you know, kind
of never being a quitter, alwaysfinding a way.
You know those types of things.
But I lived it and so thedancing became a vehicle for me
(08:20):
for other things.
You know, beyond the dancing, Ireally didn't set out to do
anything with dancing.
I just kept doing dancing and-.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Because it was something you could do, and you
could do it well.
Yes.
I mean you taught, you had yourown dance school.
I mean, you did all that.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yes, I actually missed that, but you know you
have to make choices withcareers.
But I am going to be gettingback into online teaching and
starting up sort of my studioonline.
It's very hard to run locations, but at one point I had 12
locations where I was drivingall over and doing that and I
sort of realized there's only somuch of me to go around and I
(08:58):
really wanted to move into thismedium of TV or movies or
something where we could capture, you know, the epitome of my
work.
You know, and capture itforever.
Basically versus, you know,kind of burning my time up.
You know, doing the classes.
I loved them, I love doing that, but it's just not enough time
(09:19):
in the day to do it all.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, and in the first episode you're actually
producing like a show within theshow.
I saw like you're actuallythere's a guy on the show on
that first episode.
So you do that also.
You help produce shows forother people or to raise money
or whatever you were doing.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yes, it's the concept .
As you watch a reality show,you know from, let's say, the
real estate side is very simple.
You know you watch house getbuilt or you watch a house get
improved.
So we're also bringing thatconcept into the production side
of this.
So, as you watch, these realityseries unwind, we're going to
be building an actual live stageshow that will be then taking
(09:57):
from television to the stage,which will allow people to have
just another level ofinteraction, and this show is
going to be it's called AmericanThunder.
We're actually getting ready torelease that Cool and it's
going to be a tribute show, apatriotic tribute show to honor
veterans, and it's going to becoming out here very soon.
(10:18):
We've been doing a lot of thedevelopment and so you'll get to
see some of that unfold, sortof on the reality show and also
in real life.
So it's going to be a realinteresting concept to sort of
have a show come out of a showand so you can watch a house get
built, you can watch propertiesget developed and you can watch
shows get made.
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
It's such a and it's funny how it all does blend
together, kind of comes together, because you've got production
in both things.
You've got production inbuilding a house, got production
in dancing.
So where is this?
Give us a little teaser.
Where's the next coupleepisodes going to go?
I mean, we're you know, we sawthe first one.
Where does it go from here?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Well, right now we're actually getting ready to do
our real life promotional tourwhere we'll be going out on our
American Town tour and we'reputting together we've already
put together the band and themusicians.
It's going to be the rhythmwith views band, so you can come
out and actually see myselfperform with live musicians, and
then you'll be seeing thisAmerican Thunder show get
(11:18):
developed, also through theseries.
And then, as far as the realestate side of it, we're going
to probably take those episodesby episode, I think by season
two.
We really want to be into areally large project, like maybe
an entire subdivision beingbuilt, because we really, you
know, a lot of focus has alwaysbeen on the flipping of the
(11:39):
homes, but, you know, nobody'sreally ever showed you that
process from dirt up.
You know, and and this isn'treally a learn how to this is
more of just a glimpse into,sure, what that life is like.
Yeah, you're not going to learn.
I mean, it's kind of aridiculous statement to say
you're going to watch, you know,a couple episodes and you're
going to develop your owndevelopment.
(12:00):
Yeah, so, uh, no, this isreally a glimpse into not a
learn how to type thing and um,and really just kind of, how
crazy you know and fun my lifecan be doing these things, you
know.
So yeah, very cool.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Now, what about you have?
Uh uh, wife, children, um, whatelse do you have on your
personal side?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, we've got a wife of a 20 going on 27 years
and, uh, and two boys that arehealthy and growing up faster
than I would like.
Yeah, yeah, they're, they're,they're been wonderful and, you
know, I've really been blessedwith sort of you know, um, just
so much.
I mean looking back to whereI've come to, not only with the
(12:42):
family, but, uh, several yearsago we relocated to outside of
Nashville, uh, because the showwas coming and this was going to
be more of a center to whatwe're doing, and uh, just been
so many blessings, honestly.
So, um, life is good, but I,you know, I think, if you, uh,
if you hang around dancers,you're going to see dancers are
(13:02):
generally pretty happy people,are they usually in a good
spirit?
And, uh, I think you attractthat kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, you're typically sad.
People don't dance so well.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Right, there's not out there on the dance floor.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
The sad ones are usually the ones that are
sitting back.
They're not usually doing toomuch dancing, and if they are,
it doesn't nobody's watching.
Let's put it that way.
Now, my dancing is sad, but I'mnot sad, it's just the dancing
is sad.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
So many are happy when you do it Right.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So that's exactly right, exactly Right.
So, uh, so, yeah, so, what,what else?
What else do you see coming upin the future for you?
I mean, this show is going on.
You're going to be doing sometours with you know.
Basically you had said beforeto me about going to schools and
actually you know, promotingdance and and and as a positive
thing.
You know what, what?
Tell me a little bit about that.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Our initiative is 1 million taps for 1 million kids.
I started doing a lot of afterschool programs and giving back
that way and the same thing Irealized there would be.
There's only so much of me, so,uh, our goal is to set it up so
that I can, um, basically, youknow, hand over a program that a
school can use for their afterschool, and schools all over the
(14:10):
country, all over the world,can have kids, you know, staying
out of trouble off the street,you know, very affordably, just
for a few dollars, and we canglue the taps on the bottom of
their shoes.
That's awesome, and you knowand so that's really kind of my
initiative.
Uh, you know, amongsteverything that I do, whether
it's real estate or the show orthe dancing, the performing, at
(14:30):
the end of the day you know howdo we give back?
And ours is a million taps fora million kids, with the tap
your potential message.
So, uh, it's the program, tapyour potential.
We're going to have that afterschool, but it's also the
message that you can tap yourpotential, you can overcome
those things and, uh, you canstrive to, you know, overcome
your circumstances and yoursituation.
(14:51):
Our big rollout that we'regoing to kind of organically do
as we go out.
We really want to make animpact.
So, everywhere we go, everyplace we touch, we really want
to make a difference.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, that's great.
And you know, what I was goingto say is is you know, I think
anytime you can offer somethingelse to a kid, an opportunity of
some sort, sometimes it takesmany, many things that you
introduce to kids until theyfind that thing that gives them
passion or creates passion, andthen what that does is it helps
(15:24):
push out the other bad thingsthat you don't want them to get
into, because now all of asudden that passion takes up all
of their time.
So what a great idea tointroduce tapping to, maybe
because you know a lot of I'mjust going to say guys, a lot of
guys might not go into a dancestudio to see if they like that,
but if you bring it to them andthey realize, wow, this is kind
(15:45):
of fun to do the tap thing orthe rhythm, rhythm thing, and
now all of a sudden it takesthem away from doing other
things that aren't so good.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
And these are kids.
I mean, you know, majority ofthese kids are not in sports.
Right, you know, about fivepercent of kids actually are in
any kind of organized sportsprogram.
These kids are not going to bein a dance studio.
Typically.
They're not going to be able toafford those fees, yeah, and so
these are really kids thatdon't have a lot.
And it's been amazing that, youknow, you put a little few
pieces of metal on the bottom oftheir tennis shoes.
(16:14):
We glue them on their tennisshoes, so out of here tennis
shoes to keep it cheap, you know, and inexpensive for them as a
program.
But also, you know, kids growout of their shoes like crazy.
So, you know, rip the taps off,glue them on the next ones, you
know, and, but more importantly, we want to remove those
obstacles to actually them doing.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I love that.
I think that's an awesome idea.
I really do.
I didn't know you could gluetaps to the bottom of sneakers.
My daughter probably never toldme that because she's buying
taps, tap shoes, like you know,every six months because of her
feet growing.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, and you know, if you want to do more, you know
you could.
Probably.
It's probably limited what youcan do in it, but you know the
thing, the thing about it too isto watch how just a few dollars
like literally changes theirlife.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You put a t-shirt on and you teach them a few moves,
yeah, and that moment in timewill last their whole life type.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, yeah, look what it did for you.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
They'll remember it for the rest of their life,
absolutely.
I constantly have people thatyou know are full grown, with
kids that are coming up andsaying I was a kid.
I mean, this cycle is now, yeah, through times over, and I just
really want to take that andsort of give back.
You know, we actually went upon top of the mountain and
filmed an entire library serieswhere I'm actually on the top of
(17:30):
the mountain and you'reoverlooking, like this huge, you
know valley, 300 foot up in theair, and so when they get their
taps and stuff, they'll get a400 step library and access to
learning all these steps andthey can do a 30 day tap, your
potential challenge.
We'll also roll out, when we goon tour and email with you know
(17:51):
, a new step saying here's howyou learn how, and it'll take
them through the first 30 daysof dancing.
So I love that.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
That, to me, is really awesome.
That's giving back and that'schanging people's lives through
through music and through rhythm, which, to me, like you said
I've been I was a music my wholelife and I was started, I was a
drummer and then I went intosinging and then I was doing a
bunch of stuff with singing.
That has stuck with me my wholelife and it has it has made me
who I am today.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
And how does this relate?
The two worlds again, you knowit's ironic how do this relate?
Well, it's like the dancing issuch a people business, yes, and
people it's so, you know,contact oriented.
But when you think about realestate, real estate is a people
business because you know housesdon't buy themselves.
You know people live in them,people get them.
(18:37):
So the people is where thehouses are at, the people are
where the real estate's at, andreally having this people magnet
, you know, has really put me ina position to just, you know,
I've never really had to golooking for deals.
I'm always running into people.
It's just really worked well,it's awesome and I never really
thought about it until after.
you know the television show,kind of you know, you start
(18:59):
thinking about it and startedlooking at your, you know how
they all correlate andeverything and I was like, wow,
you know what.
What an interesting combinationwhere one one attracts the
other and works together well.
So you know, the dancing is funand exciting, you know.
But the real estate's practical, there's.
They're just reallycomplimenting each other well
and at the end of the day, it'sall about people.
(19:19):
That's right, all connections.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Absolutely so fun.
So thank you so much for comingon the show today.
Atticus Ray, tell me againwhat's that?
Oh, time goes real fast, it'samazing, so yeah, so tell me
again.
Like, where do we see the show?
How do we get to see the show,the teaser and the first episode
?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Okay, you can go to Amazon prime.
You can go to Apple TV plus.
It's on also on Google play andwe're we're organizing some
other streaming platforms orsetting up contracts with them.
You can go to my officialAtticus Ray official Atticus Ray
link tree, so, and they'll haveall the links there to get you
where you need to go.
Awesome, and just rememberrhythm with views as V, like the
(20:01):
rhythm for the dancing, andviews for the houses, and we
just want to encourage you to gocheck it out and, you know,
really walk away with you know,something that in today's world
to say is totally unique,totally different.
It's really hard to find.
So we just want to encourageyou to go check that out.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Awesome man.
Thank you so much.
There you have it.
Atticus Ray, thanks for comingon the show.
I really appreciate it.
We'll talk to you soon, allright.
All right, there you go.
If you got to see the show,have to see the show.
It is really, really cool.
It's called rhythm with views.
It is on all the places hetalked about.
It is really cool.
He does dancing in alldifferent areas.
It'll blow your mind.
(20:39):
You just got to see it.
So that's about it.
We will talk to you real soonand we'll see you again next
Thursday at 7pm.
Hello, this is Brad Wiseman.
You're listening to Real Estateand you we are back with a very
special guest, a very differentguest.
I think you guys are gonna beblown away by this show.
We have a guy here that got intouch with me, of course, about
Real Estate, but then, as westarted looking at things and I
started looking at his resume,he doesn't just do Real Estate,
(00:23):
he also is a percussion dancer.
So tap dancer, percussiondancer, whatever you wanna call
that, and that's what he does.
But he also builds houses.
So we're gonna bring him onright now.
His name is Atticus Ray Atticus.
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
doing man, man, I'm fantastic.
How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I'm doing great.
I'm doing great now that I'mtalking to you.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, well, yeah, I'm excited.
I've been looking forward tothis.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah, me too.
Me too, you know, I keeptelling people they ask who's
your next guest, who's your nextguest?
And I'm like you're not gonnabelieve this.
I got this guy.
That's like an amazing dancer.
He's danced all over the worldand I was looking at some of the
stuff of where you've danced.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I mean you've danced at the Grand Ole Opry, I mean
you've been at the Grand OleOpry on tour opening for
actually a classic Bill Monroeand the Bluegrass Boys and Ricky
Skaggs, and they were doing thetour and so I had a chance to
perform for that and that wasreally I was early in my career
and you know just kind ofactually a kid still, wow, and
(01:18):
that just kind of opened my eyesup to you know, the
possibilities, cause back then Iwas just a clogger, you know
just.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I love the clogging thing.
There's a place at Disney it'scalled I forget what it's called
.
My wife always rememberedthere's a place in Disney, at
Disney World, and it's in DisneySprings and they do clogging.
It's an Irish pub and they doclogging right on stage and they
do it pretty much throughoutthe night and that's one of my
favorite things to watch.
It's so fun, it's so energizing.
It is.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Even if you're not doing it, it just.
It energizes the room and-.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
No, God knows, you wouldn't want to see me do that,
Just like you put clogs on me.
It's not gonna be.
It's not gonna go so well, Notgonna go so well, you might sell
out.
Yeah, I'll sell out, all right,and I'll break my leg or
something.
So let's go back.
So you have this show.
What really really piqued myinterest was, you know, I guess
somebody reached out to me andsaid, hey, this guy would be
wanna be a good candidate foryour podcast.
(02:09):
I'm like all right, and I get alot of that.
So I'm like looking downthrough, I'm like, well, wait a
minute, this guy dances and hebuilds homes, and you're also of
a show that's on Amazon Primeand Apple TV called Rhythm With
Views.
Tell me about this.
I mean, you're a builder.
I mean, how do you go from?
And we know you were dancingwhen you were young, but you go
into building and now you'reback into dancing and building
together.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I, you know, my life was just several directions.
I always felt like I was doingall these different things and
trying to make it make sense.
And I ran into the producer anddirector and we started talking
and over a period of time, Iactually started out with doing
this as a musical, like afeature film, and we converted
it into doing a reality show,Just because there was so much
(02:52):
there we couldn't really bringit out, and just in a film or
there would be a lot that we'dmiss.
And so as we started to bringit together though it was such a
unique he kept saying it's sucha unique.
You know, life, You're doingthese two crazy things, you know
.
And but as I started to look atit and we started to put it
together, they're actually verysimilar, because when I do these
(03:12):
dance productions, or whetherI'm building homes, you sort of
start from scratch.
You know there's a blank slateand requires a vision, and then
followed by a blueprint of somesort and your plans on paper,
and then you get the people thatyou need to help, you know, do
the production or build the home, and really they're very
similar in that way.
(03:33):
And and I had these two careerswhere I was.
I was putting people togetherand talent to create things out
of thin air, and and they're.
They're two separate worlds,but very similar in the way that
they function.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So it's incredible and I watched, I watched the
teaser and then I watched yourfirst episode, the teaser, and
I'm watching this and you'redancing everywhere.
You're dancing in, like youknow there's a, there's a part
in the first episode whereyou're going to get lumber, I
think, or whatever, and you'reat the desk and you're talking
to this older gentleman and yougo to get lumber.
The next thing, you know, youopen the door and you're in the
back warehouse area.
(04:05):
You're tap dance.
You're doing your dance to thewarehouse on top of lumber, on
top of the tractor or thebackhoe I think was there.
You're doing everything.
I mean, that's very unique.
Most people don't dance there.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Well, I'm glad you noticed that, cause the director
asked me to, you know, toreally take dancing to a new
level, like how can we dosomething different?
And you know, as we werethinking, you know, dancing is
typically done two-dimensionally, just on a flat stage, right,
right, a flat environment.
And I said, well, why don't we,why don't we take it out into
the world, why don't we make theworld the stage?
And we just got real literalwith that and those were not set
(04:40):
up scenes and some kind of amovie thing.
When you do a reality show, you, you get on site, you kind of
scout it out, you have, you havea time there, yes, to set some
things up, but the reality isthat was all choreographed on
site.
It's awesome Working with, like, the high lows and the semi
trucks, and I don't want to gettoo much away, but I mean it was
.
You know, we basically wantedto make the world the stage and
(05:05):
take it into like athree-dimensional, you know,
sort of aspect where you know,and I'm literally tapping on
surfaces I do not recommendpeople to do if you're not
knowing what they're doing,cause I mean it is very
dangerous.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, Well, the one.
I have to say this, the onethat really gets me, and this is
what's going to make peoplewant to just check this out.
You know, if I don't thinkanybody has ever seen anybody
dance or tap dance in a creek ornear a waterfall or on in water
, I mean, did you have specialshoes for that, or are you just?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
using your regular shoes.
Yeah, the taps that I had, wedanced.
It was a waterfall that camedown and it had sort of like
this shallow area where thewater would be flowing over it
and we decided, wow, that'salmost like a stage right at the
base of that waterfall and sowe were doing some scenes near
the river and we're like let'sjust take it to the next level.
(05:55):
And so we took like a couple ofmillion dollars worth of
equipment out into the river and, you know, and everyone was
real nervous and but it was, theshots turned out great, though.
Yeah, it was all on site.
I really can't stress thatenough.
You know there was.
There was no movie magic, youknow, going on it was.
It was really when you doreality shows, you have to scout
(06:17):
those sites out and then makeit happen right on the spot.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
So, yeah, it's reality.
Well, it's real.
It's what's happening at thatmoment, but it really is real.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
And you know, but yeah, you'll, you'll see some
fascinating things, and then andit goes into reality of my life
, but then it goes into thissort of, you know, um, musical
fantasy mode where you, you geta few minutes where you're,
you're not watching, uh, youknow, sort of reality TV anymore
.
You're, you're, you know, beingfully entertained and really,
(06:46):
like you said, it's somethingfor everybody and it's totally
unique.
I mean, there's really nothinglike it.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, I love, I love.
I thought it was really cool,very entertaining, very
entertaining.
It's very cool.
So let's talk about you knowyou didn't always have it.
This dancing didn't come easyfor you.
Um, I mean, I was reading aboutabout you here and you you had
some issues growing up or somechallenges.
I'd like to say growing up asfrom a kid.
I mean you you had leg bracesand things like that.
So tell me a little bit aboutyou know, the challenges you had
(07:11):
growing up and becoming adancer.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I had asthma and about 40% restriction and a lot
of allergies and then also, likeyou mentioned, leg braces and
corrective shoes.
So you know, looking back, Iprobably wouldn't be a candidate
that you would think of asbeing a world-class professional
dancer, right, and especially,you know, getting to the point
of even having my own show.
So really, kind of coming fromthat, you know, when I got
(07:36):
started, it was just simply, youknow, I couldn't really do
sports, I really couldn't doother things, and just literally
, one step at a time, basicallysort of solved my problem.
You know, correct my problem.
I just kept going and going andpushing myself.
I learned to push myself andthat, I think, really translated
out into all my business andevery other part of my life and
(07:58):
just really the challenge ofovercoming.
You know, if you look back onyour life, it's really a series
of overcoming challenges andwhat you make of that, and so I
really feel like that part ofthat led me to, you know, kind
of never being a quitter, alwaysfinding a way.
You know those types of things.
But I lived it and so thedancing became a vehicle for me
(08:20):
for other things.
You know, beyond the dancing, Ireally didn't set out to do
anything with dancing.
I just kept doing dancing and-.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Because it was something you could do, and you
could do it well.
Yes.
I mean you taught, you had yourown dance school.
I mean, you did all that.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yes, I actually missed that, but you know you
have to make choices withcareers.
But I am going to be gettingback into online teaching and
starting up sort of my studioonline.
It's very hard to run locations, but at one point I had 12
locations where I was drivingall over and doing that and I
sort of realized there's only somuch of me to go around and I
(08:58):
really wanted to move into thismedium of TV or movies or
something where we could capture, you know, the epitome of my
work.
You know, and capture itforever.
Basically versus, you know,kind of burning my time up.
You know, doing the classes.
I loved them, I love doing that, but it's just not enough time
(09:19):
in the day to do it all.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, and in the first episode you're actually
producing like a show within theshow.
I saw like you're actuallythere's a guy on the show on
that first episode.
So you do that also.
You help produce shows forother people or to raise money
or whatever you were doing.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yes, it's the concept .
As you watch a reality show,you know from, let's say, the
real estate side is very simple.
You know you watch house getbuilt or you watch a house get
improved.
So we're also bringing thatconcept into the production side
of this.
So, as you watch, these realityseries unwind, we're going to
be building an actual live stageshow that will be then taking
(09:57):
from television to the stage,which will allow people to have
just another level ofinteraction, and this show is
going to be it's called AmericanThunder.
We're actually getting ready torelease that Cool and it's
going to be a tribute show, apatriotic tribute show to honor
veterans, and it's going to becoming out here very soon.
(10:18):
We've been doing a lot of thedevelopment and so you'll get to
see some of that unfold, sortof on the reality show and also
in real life.
So it's going to be a realinteresting concept to sort of
have a show come out of a showand so you can watch a house get
built, you can watch propertiesget developed and you can watch
shows get made.
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
It's such a and it's funny how it all does blend
together, kind of comes together, because you've got production
in both things.
You've got production inbuilding a house, got production
in dancing.
So where is this?
Give us a little teaser.
Where's the next coupleepisodes going to go?
I mean, we're you know, we sawthe first one.
Where does it go from here?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Well, right now we're actually getting ready to do
our real life promotional tourwhere we'll be going out on our
American Town tour and we'reputting together we've already
put together the band and themusicians.
It's going to be the rhythmwith views band, so you can come
out and actually see myselfperform with live musicians, and
then you'll be seeing thisAmerican Thunder show get
(11:18):
developed, also through theseries.
And then, as far as the realestate side of it, we're going
to probably take those episodesby episode, I think by season
two.
We really want to be into areally large project, like maybe
an entire subdivision beingbuilt, because we really, you
know, a lot of focus has alwaysbeen on the flipping of the
(11:39):
homes, but, you know, nobody'sreally ever showed you that
process from dirt up.
You know, and and this isn'treally a learn how to this is
more of just a glimpse into,sure, what that life is like.
Yeah, you're not going to learn.
I mean, it's kind of aridiculous statement to say
you're going to watch, you know,a couple episodes and you're
going to develop your owndevelopment.
(12:00):
Yeah, so, uh, no, this isreally a glimpse into not a
learn how to type thing and um,and really just kind of, how
crazy you know and fun my lifecan be doing these things, you
know.
So yeah, very cool.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Now, what about you have?
Uh uh, wife, children, um, whatelse do you have on your
personal side?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, we've got a wife of a 20 going on 27 years
and, uh, and two boys that arehealthy and growing up faster
than I would like.
Yeah, yeah, they're, they're,they're been wonderful and, you
know, I've really been blessedwith sort of you know, um, just
so much.
I mean looking back to whereI've come to, not only with the
(12:42):
family, but, uh, several yearsago we relocated to outside of
Nashville, uh, because the showwas coming and this was going to
be more of a center to whatwe're doing, and uh, just been
so many blessings, honestly.
So, um, life is good, but I,you know, I think, if you, uh,
if you hang around dancers,you're going to see dancers are
(13:02):
generally pretty happy people,are they usually in a good
spirit?
And, uh, I think you attractthat kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, you're typically sad.
People don't dance so well.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Right, there's not out there on the dance floor.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
The sad ones are usually the ones that are
sitting back.
They're not usually doing toomuch dancing, and if they are,
it doesn't nobody's watching.
Let's put it that way.
Now, my dancing is sad, but I'mnot sad, it's just the dancing
is sad.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
So many are happy when you do it Right.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So that's exactly right, exactly Right.
So, uh, so, yeah, so, what,what else?
What else do you see coming upin the future for you?
I mean, this show is going on.
You're going to be doing sometours with you know.
Basically you had said beforeto me about going to schools and
actually you know, promotingdance and and and as a positive
thing.
You know what, what?
Tell me a little bit about that.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Our initiative is 1 million taps for 1 million kids.
I started doing a lot of afterschool programs and giving back
that way and the same thing Irealized there would be.
There's only so much of me, so,uh, our goal is to set it up so
that I can, um, basically, youknow, hand over a program that a
school can use for their afterschool, and schools all over the
(14:10):
country, all over the world,can have kids, you know, staying
out of trouble off the street,you know, very affordably, just
for a few dollars, and we canglue the taps on the bottom of
their shoes.
That's awesome, and you knowand so that's really kind of my
initiative.
Uh, you know, amongsteverything that I do, whether
it's real estate or the show orthe dancing, the performing, at
(14:30):
the end of the day you know howdo we give back?
And ours is a million taps fora million kids, with the tap
your potential message.
So, uh, it's the program, tapyour potential.
We're going to have that afterschool, but it's also the
message that you can tap yourpotential, you can overcome
those things and, uh, you canstrive to, you know, overcome
your circumstances and yoursituation.
(14:51):
Our big rollout that we'regoing to kind of organically do
as we go out.
We really want to make animpact.
So, everywhere we go, everyplace we touch, we really want
to make a difference.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, that's great.
And you know, what I was goingto say is is you know, I think
anytime you can offer somethingelse to a kid, an opportunity of
some sort, sometimes it takesmany, many things that you
introduce to kids until theyfind that thing that gives them
passion or creates passion, andthen what that does is it helps
(15:24):
push out the other bad thingsthat you don't want them to get
into, because now all of asudden that passion takes up all
of their time.
So what a great idea tointroduce tapping to, maybe
because you know a lot of I'mjust going to say guys, a lot of
guys might not go into a dancestudio to see if they like that,
but if you bring it to them andthey realize, wow, this is kind
(15:45):
of fun to do the tap thing orthe rhythm, rhythm thing, and
now all of a sudden it takesthem away from doing other
things that aren't so good.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
And these are kids.
I mean, you know, majority ofthese kids are not in sports.
Right, you know, about fivepercent of kids actually are in
any kind of organized sportsprogram.
These kids are not going to bein a dance studio.
Typically.
They're not going to be able toafford those fees, yeah, and so
these are really kids thatdon't have a lot.
And it's been amazing that, youknow, you put a little few
pieces of metal on the bottom oftheir tennis shoes.
(16:14):
We glue them on their tennisshoes, so out of here tennis
shoes to keep it cheap, you know, and inexpensive for them as a
program.
But also, you know, kids growout of their shoes like crazy.
So, you know, rip the taps off,glue them on the next ones, you
know, and, but more importantly, we want to remove those
obstacles to actually them doing.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I love that.
I think that's an awesome idea.
I really do.
I didn't know you could gluetaps to the bottom of sneakers.
My daughter probably never toldme that because she's buying
taps, tap shoes, like you know,every six months because of her
feet growing.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, and you know, if you want to do more, you know
you could.
Probably.
It's probably limited what youcan do in it, but you know the
thing, the thing about it too isto watch how just a few dollars
like literally changes theirlife.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You put a t-shirt on and you teach them a few moves,
yeah, and that moment in timewill last their whole life type.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, yeah, look what it did for you.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
They'll remember it for the rest of their life,
absolutely.
I constantly have people thatyou know are full grown, with
kids that are coming up andsaying I was a kid.
I mean, this cycle is now, yeah, through times over, and I just
really want to take that andsort of give back.
You know, we actually went upon top of the mountain and
filmed an entire library serieswhere I'm actually on the top of
(17:30):
the mountain and you'reoverlooking, like this huge, you
know valley, 300 foot up in theair, and so when they get their
taps and stuff, they'll get a400 step library and access to
learning all these steps andthey can do a 30 day tap, your
potential challenge.
We'll also roll out, when we goon tour and email with you know
(17:51):
, a new step saying here's howyou learn how, and it'll take
them through the first 30 daysof dancing.
So I love that.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
That, to me, is really awesome.
That's giving back and that'schanging people's lives through
through music and through rhythm, which, to me, like you said
I've been I was a music my wholelife and I was started, I was a
drummer and then I went intosinging and then I was doing a
bunch of stuff with singing.
That has stuck with me my wholelife and it has it has made me
who I am today.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
And how does this relate?
The two worlds again, you knowit's ironic how do this relate?
Well, it's like the dancing issuch a people business, yes, and
people it's so, you know,contact oriented.
But when you think about realestate, real estate is a people
business because you know housesdon't buy themselves.
You know people live in them,people get them.
(18:37):
So the people is where thehouses are at, the people are
where the real estate's at, andreally having this people magnet
, you know, has really put me ina position to just, you know,
I've never really had to golooking for deals.
I'm always running into people.
It's just really worked well,it's awesome and I never really
thought about it until after.
you know the television show,kind of you know, you start
(18:59):
thinking about it and startedlooking at your, you know how
they all correlate andeverything and I was like, wow,
you know what.
What an interesting combinationwhere one one attracts the
other and works together well.
So you know, the dancing is funand exciting, you know.
But the real estate's practical, there's.
They're just reallycomplimenting each other well
and at the end of the day, it'sall about people.
(19:19):
That's right, all connections.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Absolutely so fun.
So thank you so much for comingon the show today.
Atticus Ray, tell me againwhat's that?
Oh, time goes real fast, it'samazing, so yeah, so tell me
again.
Like, where do we see the show?
How do we get to see the show,the teaser and the first episode
?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Okay, you can go to Amazon prime.
You can go to Apple TV plus.
It's on also on Google play andwe're we're organizing some
other streaming platforms orsetting up contracts with them.
You can go to my officialAtticus Ray official Atticus Ray
link tree, so, and they'll haveall the links there to get you
where you need to go.
Awesome, and just rememberrhythm with views as V, like the
(20:01):
rhythm for the dancing, andviews for the houses, and we
just want to encourage you to gocheck it out and, you know,
really walk away with you know,something that in today's world
to say is totally unique,totally different.
It's really hard to find.
So we just want to encourageyou to go check that out.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Awesome man.
Thank you so much.
There you have it.
Atticus Ray, thanks for comingon the show.
I really appreciate it.
We'll talk to you soon, allright.
All right, there you go.
If you got to see the show,have to see the show.
It is really, really cool.
It's called rhythm with views.
It is on all the places hetalked about.
It is really cool.
He does dancing in alldifferent areas.
It'll blow your mind.
(20:39):
You just got to see it.
So that's about it.
We will talk to you real soonand we'll see you again next
Thursday at 7pm.
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