October 30, 2025 • 34 mins
What if you could change your results by changing your state first? That’s the premise Shauna VanBogart brings to the table, blending personal branding roots with a deeper craft: shaping presence so your inner world and outer impact finally match. We dive into Resonance House, her immersive platform that uses cinematic, hypnosis-informed audio journeys to help you step into qualities like calm confidence, creative flow, intuitive clarity, and real capacity to receive support and money without flinching.
Shauna walks us through the “room” metaphor that makes growth feel tangible. The Receiving Parlor addresses a common high-performer blind spot: accepting help and praise without deflecting. The Velvet Library trains intuition as a practical skill you can strengthen. The Treasury reframes money as neutral energy and invites abundance without shame. Instead of information overload, each room delivers a felt experience that your mind and body can recall when it counts—on stage, in a negotiation, or during tough conversations at home.
We also get tactical about styling energy for the different roles we play in a day. The boardroom self doesn’t belong in bedtime routines, and creativity suffers when you attack it with a manager’s mindset. Shauna’s approach turns transitions into moments of agency: "decide who you need to be, then step into that identity with intention." For highly sensitive people, she offers a reframe: sensitivity is a precision instrument when you set boundaries and build recovery. Her photo energy reads show how naming emotional undercurrents can unlock momentum fast.
If you’re tired of pushing and ready to resonate, this conversation offers a refreshing path: train your state, and watch your decisions, relationships, and outcomes fall into place. Listen now, then share the room you’d walk into first. If the show resonates, follow, rate, and send this to someone who needs a state reset today.
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SPEAKER_04 (00:04):
Real estate market as a whole sometimes will affect
it.
Right.
Okay.
In real life, we all learn it.
If you think about it, WayneDyer might not attract everybody
and everything in between.
The Brad Wiseman show.
And now your host, Brad Wiseman.
SPEAKER_05 (00:26):
All right.
We have a great show lined upfor you tonight.
I gotta tell you.
I'm excited.
Hugo, I'm excited.
SPEAKER_00 (00:32):
You're excited?
SPEAKER_05 (00:33):
I'm really excited, yeah.
You know, it's it's cool.
We're starting, you know, we'vealways had great guests, always
had great guests, but we'rewe're getting, we're just kind
of like really getting a lot ofuh traction on some just
fantastic guests that are comingin, telling their stories, and
it's really exciting.
So, you know, um this this ladyhere was actually introduced to
(00:55):
us through Sylvie DeJusto, whichI didn't realize until we were
just talking.
Um, but yeah, she was brought tous from from uh Sylvie, and her
it's it's she's from Charleston,South Carolina.
It says this is one of thethings that's that I just caught
me.
It says, meet any moment fromyour power, not your patterns.
Uh, I saw that, and then I sawnot only is energy your
currency, but how you spend itis your power.
(01:17):
When you read those kind ofquotes and when you see that
kind of stuff, it just it setsit sets you off and goes, man, I
want to know more about this.
Let's hear it.
Yeah.
So Shauna Van Bogart is ourguest tonight, and I'm super
excited.
She's coming from Charleston,South Carolina.
What's the weather like downthere?
SPEAKER_01 (01:32):
80s.
SPEAKER_05 (01:33):
Still.
It's still.
Was that it?
Was that a dig on the north?
I think that was a dig on thenorth.
SPEAKER_01 (01:38):
I'm a Minnesota net heart.
SPEAKER_05 (01:39):
So I thought you were digging on us.
SPEAKER_01 (01:42):
August around here is not my thing.
SPEAKER_05 (01:44):
Oh, yeah.
It's really hot down there inAugust, right?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (01:47):
Right.
So then when September hits, I'mlike, let's let's go.
Let's go.
SPEAKER_05 (01:50):
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Well, I it's it's a place thatmost people say, you know, when
I'm done working, when I retire,I'm going to South Carolina or
North Carolina or Georgia.
You know, people just want toget away from, they want to get
away from up here because thethe winters are a little rough.
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (02:05):
They're a little rough.
SPEAKER_05 (02:06):
Yeah.
So yeah.
So it's so funny how we figuredout how we know each other.
Well, you figured it out.
You knew right away.
It's through Sylvie, and we, andyou know, we we have a great uh
common friend, uh, it's SylvieDeJusto, who we who we love.
So uh that's cool.
SPEAKER_02 (02:20):
Yeah, she's easy to love.
SPEAKER_05 (02:22):
She's easy to love.
She definitely is.
So yeah, so I've been watchingyour your stuff on Instagram.
I've been I've been looking ateverything you're doing, I've
watched the websites, andrecently you you started this
new thing called ResonanceHouse, or at least new that I
could see, and maybe you've beenworking on it for a while.
It is really, really cool whatI'm seeing on there.
(02:42):
A lot of it has to do with likeenergy and stuff like that, it
has to do with image, it has todo with you know, um, all those
things.
So I just wanted to say beforewe get started, some of the
other things that you've done isthat you were top, you were
world's top personal brandingexpert by Huffington Post.
They named you that.
Tell us a little bit about that,the personal branding that
you've done.
SPEAKER_01 (03:01):
Yeah, so I came into image consulting in 2008, 2009.
And that meant something verydifferent to me when I launched
it in Charleston than how it wasreceived.
SPEAKER_02 (03:12):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (03:12):
So I took that word and I said, you know, it needs a
different label.
And at that time, the internetwas a very different place.
SPEAKER_03 (03:20):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (03:20):
Social media was very different.
It was just taking off in bigways, like professionally.
And I really entered the marketof working with people's
presence at that time as animage consultant in a really
interesting time period becauseeverything was moving to online
presence and cultivating youronline persona.
And so at that time, I switchedit over to personal branding as
(03:42):
I kind of burrowed deeper intomy craft.
And initially, what was workingwith appearance, body language,
communication became workingwith people's presence online.
SPEAKER_03 (03:52):
Wow.
SPEAKER_01 (03:52):
Um, and so I kind of lingered in that world uh for
several years.
And then with Sylvie, welaunched a training hub uh that
was international for a while.
We had that for several years,and I just kept going deeper and
deeper into people's presence.
SPEAKER_05 (04:06):
Wow.
And so that's how it started.
So you just kind of you you kindof used to scratch the surface a
little bit, and now you'reyou're going in.
You're going in.
You're taking it deeper.
SPEAKER_03 (04:16):
I'm not, I'm going there.
SPEAKER_05 (04:18):
Right, great.
What's what she's gonna sayabout me, Hugo?
Um, but no, but it you're goingin.
You're actually just becauseit's it's so true.
What we see out here iscompletely different than what's
going on in here, you know, andI think that's a big thing
today.
It's almost it's such a commonthing I'm hearing with our
guests today that come in on theshow is about being you gotta be
(04:38):
good to yourself or withyourself before you can do
anything else.
You have to have the rightenergy inside, or you're gonna
give off bad thing vibes andthings on the outside.
Right, right.
So, so let's go into this wholething of what is what is
resonance?
You have this site calledResonance House.
What is resonance?
What does that mean to you?
SPEAKER_01 (04:59):
It's a deep alignment with an inner world
and your outer world.
Uh, in the shortest way, it's avibe and you know it.
You know it when you walk into ahouse.
You resonate with it or not, youcan feel it has an energy to it
or not.
Um, we resonate with certainpeople.
So it's really a deep, inherentconnection that we have to
something.
SPEAKER_05 (05:18):
That's cool.
So it resonates.
I mean, that's the the wordresonates.
It resonates with you.
Uh and you know, and and we justhad somebody on here recently
talking about the the energy ina house that we that we uh
talked to as Adam, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, and he was talking about,I mean, he sages homes.
He actually goes in and doessaging, staging in uh instead of
staging or both, he does.
(05:40):
Um and he does it because hesays if there's a divorce in the
house, there's energy in therethat needs to needs to be maybe
changed.
You know, and and it's it'sinteresting.
So what do you what do you offerthen to people that come to you?
What do you what are you doing?
Like, how do you do this?
SPEAKER_01 (05:56):
Yeah, so um I've been in professional
development, obviously, since2009.
And over the years, I had a verytraditional coaching platform.
Uh, my offer stack was whatyou'd see from a lot of coaches,
one-to-one coaching, signatureprograms.
And a few years ago, I just kindof was looking around at the
industry and I noticed there wasa shift happening.
And I'm constantly asking myselfthe question, how can I get even
(06:18):
better results?
And for me, it was how can Icreate more of an experience and
give people the direct result,not so much a lot of lecturing
or intellectual theories thatI'm giving them in programs and
then they have to take home andimplement.
Like, how can I just give themthe result?
So as I sat back for years, Ialso went on my own personal
(06:40):
journey, as we do in ourreinventions.
And what I learned now lookingback is that the way that I got
here to Resonance House was thatI had to access more of me.
And it's kind of the old adage.
Um, perhaps even previous guestshave talked about it when you
talk about being versus doing,it's like when you're gonna go
to a different place or adifferent level, whether that's
(07:01):
in a relationship or yoursuccess, career, whatever, you
oftentimes have to be or shiftidentity to get there.
Like it's not gonna take thesame things to get to the next
level.
And so as I stepped back, Irealized I really needed to tap
into my intuition and own thoseskills.
I really had to tap into mysense of creativity and go even
(07:21):
deeper and like push boundariesin that department.
And so I started unlocking thesedifferent spaces inside of
myself, of course, with the helpof mentors and all of that.
And then as I look at myaudience and I just kind of sat
back and listened for almost twoyears to what was happening,
what was going on to myaudience, uh, what were their
direct needs.
(07:41):
And this idea of energy startedto become a bigger topic I was
seeing online.
And innately, that's always beensomething as a highly sensitive
person that I pick up on since Iwas a child.
You know, I can walk into a roomand I can know exactly what the
pulse is between that group ofpeople and this group of people.
And there's been some otherservices I've done with working
(08:01):
with people's energy and beingable to express back to them
what's going on inside of thembefore they could really see it.
And so I'm taking all thisexperience and I'm going, how
can I deliver this?
And along my journey, I had uhgone and gotten my um
hypnotherapy certification aswell, and had a mentor that I
worked with for about a year anda half in that department.
(08:22):
So I was doing hypnotherapy tocreate changes on a really
subconscious level with people.
And most of what I was doing wasself-hypnosis tracks.
And so as I took all of thesethings together, I thought, you
know what, wouldn't it be coolif there was a house, a
metaphorical house, that womencould step into as this online
platform and unlock these samerooms, oftentimes spaces within
(08:44):
themselves that they don'treally access on a regular basis
for a lot of reasons.
And so that's kind of where theidea started.
And inside of these rooms, thecore of it are these audio
immersive journeys.
But that again, I also wanted totake to a whole different level.
I didn't just want a typicalself-hypnosis track.
I don't know if you've everlistened to one.
It's like a guided meditation.
SPEAKER_05 (09:04):
Yeah.
So when you say, yeah, is it theaudio track?
I mean, we use actually we useit sometimes with my son and my
daughter.
We've used these, these thecalming ones to to go to sleep.
You're you're there's no danger,everything's okay, you know,
that kind of stuff.
So is it that kind of it it'sit's it it's uh hypnotic.
Yeah, it kind of just calms youdown and puts you to sleep.
Puts me, it puts me out rightaway.
SPEAKER_01 (09:26):
Oh, totally.
Yeah, people are much more umyou know susceptible to being
hypnotized than others.
You know, I really wanted totake it one step further and and
make it more of an energy.
Especially, I think womenespecially pick up on that.
When we go into certainenvironments, it's either ah,
like an exhale, or we're like,this environment's not it.
Like vibes are off.
Um, and so as I understood myaudience really well, I knew
(09:50):
there were some basic desiresthey weren't getting enough of
that if they had in their life,like deepening their intuition
or their creativity, that theycould go do the things they
needed to do and have theoutcomes they were looking for
across the board.
So then the goal became how do Ibottle up these energies into a
15-minute audio track that islike a hypnosis, but much more
(10:11):
of a scene that they're a maincharacter of that I'm putting
them in that's really cinematicin tone and music, and it's much
more like a journey.
So I started playing with that.
It was really well received, andthen that's the rest of the
thing.
SPEAKER_05 (10:22):
That's that's really different.
I I don't know if I've everheard of that, something like
that.
I haven't either.
And it's you, it's your voicedoing it?
SPEAKER_01 (10:30):
It's my voice.
So uh did not know that I had aknack for um audio tracks and
narration, but here I do.
So this is not my this is not myhypnosis voice, but if you can
you give us can you give us alittle bit of your hypnosis
voice?
SPEAKER_05 (10:45):
We'd love to hear it.
Man, come on, come on, we wantto hear this.
SPEAKER_01 (10:48):
All right, Brad.
SPEAKER_05 (10:49):
Go ahead.
SPEAKER_01 (10:50):
Take a deep breath.
Inhale and exhale.
And then imagine you're steppinginto a room filled with swirling
lavender light.
SPEAKER_05 (11:04):
That's good.
That was good.
You sound like the are you thelady that's on on the track we
give that my son listens to?
SPEAKER_01 (11:11):
Maybe.
I made a little journeyscollection uh and there's a
kid's sleep track in there.
That's killing it.
SPEAKER_05 (11:17):
Wait, that'd be like shocked.
Wait, I wait, wait, wait, wait,wait.
Is it possible that's the onewe're using?
SPEAKER_01 (11:22):
No, I don't think so.
Oh no, she's side residenthouse.
SPEAKER_05 (11:25):
I'm like, that's kind of creepy.
SPEAKER_01 (11:28):
But it's it's yeah, it's taking that is so cool.
I'm like, maybe I need to pivotinto kids' bedtime.
SPEAKER_05 (11:38):
Well, I think you know what it is.
Kid kids, they have a lot ofinput, a lot of input coming
into them.
They have a lot coming in.
I can't shut up.
It's hard to and and and so dowe.
It's just that I think wesomehow we're able to, or maybe
we're not either, but somehowwe're we're able to maybe deal
with it better.
But they get so much, just somuch coming in.
And I think it's just nice tohear that calming voice saying
(12:01):
it's all gonna be okay.
Everything's gonna be okay, it'sall good.
You know, close your eyes.
Tomorrow's another day.
You know, it's kind of that'skind of the stuff that that that
I hear on there.
And it's and it's stuff, listenus.
I mean, we're talking about thesame stuff, we're adults, and we
need we need the same thingsthey need.
We desperately need it.
Yeah, I mean, we do.
We need we need all of that.
And and I think it's it's whatis really cool though is that
(12:24):
I'm the the common denominator Ikeep hearing is this energy and
and um and you know, figuringout the different rooms.
Now let's go back to the roomsthing.
SPEAKER_02 (12:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (12:34):
What give me an example of a room like that that
you've discovered or that you'veuncovered inside yourself?
SPEAKER_01 (12:41):
I'm gonna take it one step further.
I'm gonna give you a common onejust among women.
So this was a threshold Icrossed myself, but I see it all
the time with my clients.
One of the rooms I created isthe receiving parlor because
women are notoriously bad atreceiving, whether that's
support, gifts, complimentswithout deflecting or feeling
the need to immediatelyreciprocate.
(13:01):
Um, and a lot of the women thatI work with, we're talking high
performers, insane drive anddetermination.
They're oftentimeshyper-independent and doing
everything themselves.
And they do it pretty well.
SPEAKER_05 (13:13):
And controlling, probably too.
SPEAKER_01 (13:15):
And controlling.
SPEAKER_05 (13:16):
Not good at delegating.
SPEAKER_01 (13:17):
Yes, controlling, managing, right?
Um, and so one of the areas thata lot of women have even said,
like, I need to work onexpanding my capacity to
receive.
Oh wow and that is either again,love support, more money, uh uh
stable money, uh, whatever.
So that particular room is areally important one because
(13:38):
that opens the door to so muchother stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (13:41):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:41):
I mean, a lot of times too, I think people will
invest in themselves, but theydo kind of have a block on
receiving what's being given tothem because it's triggering.
It's it's a it's a vulnerableposition to be in.
A state of giving is a powerposition.
SPEAKER_05 (13:54):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (13:54):
Um, it's a control position.
And so rip being in a receivingposition is it's vulnerable.
SPEAKER_05 (13:58):
Well, and a lot of times that begins with asking
for help.
Absolutely.
And then what comes back fromwhen when you ask for help,
which is a very brave thing todo sometimes, or feels like
you're weak when you ask forhelp.
Right.
Um, because we're kind of taughtthat, I guess, through society.
And then all of a sudden youreceive the help.
Right.
Now you feel even more likeyou're, you know, it's hard that
(14:19):
to receive.
And I don't even and it's funny,I don't, and I guess it's more
it what you're saying is it'smore common with women.
You you you feel that thatthat's the way it is.
Or is it just because you are awoman and you're feeling that,
okay, this is how I feel.
SPEAKER_01 (14:32):
I think I I mean it goes both ways, of course.
But I think, you know, I wasraised, I'm 41, and I was raised
in a generation where I saw, youknow, my parents saying, like,
you be independent.
SPEAKER_02 (14:43):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (14:44):
Like you go off and make your own.
And most of my colleagues andfriends in the same kind of age,
demographic, same way.
And so there was this fierceindependence.
We like, you know, left highschool and it was like, I'm
doing it all myself.
SPEAKER_05 (14:56):
And so um you want to know a statistic that'll
follow that that you're gonna beamazed by.
There, the statistic of singlewomen buying homes far exceeds
single men buying homes.
SPEAKER_01 (15:10):
Interesting.
SPEAKER_05 (15:11):
Is that cool or what?
SPEAKER_01 (15:12):
Yeah, for you to know.
SPEAKER_05 (15:13):
No, it's a good point for you to know because
it's a good and it's a fact.
I mean, that is it's a statisticthat if you look at it, uh,
because what's weird is a lot oftimes the men will, the boys
will stay at home for a longertime.
And the girls are moreindependent, women are more
independent and ready to makethat jump out of the nest.
SPEAKER_02 (15:32):
Right.
SPEAKER_05 (15:32):
And they end up buying homes by themselves.
We see it.
I'm telling you, it'sunbelievable how many more times
we see it.
Yeah, I just thought you wouldwant to know that from the real
estate angle.
I mean, yeah.
I happen to know something aboutreal estate every once in a
while.
unknown (15:45):
I would hope so.
SPEAKER_05 (15:46):
Yeah, me too.
But no, so keep going with that.
So basically, the um thereceiving is a big what the
receiving parlor, is that whatyou said?
I love that.
I love that.
SPEAKER_01 (15:55):
And the thing for me, um, you know, I worked with
people on really deep levels fora long time.
And therapeutic presence, Idon't know if you've heard that
term, but in it's a therapyterm, of course.
Therapeutic presence isbasically when the provider has
a certain depth of connectionwith their client.
And that leading to betterresults, it's been studied and
(16:15):
verified.
And so as I deepen my ownpresence when I'm with someone
in connection and conversation,one of the things that I know is
really important is treating allof these things as incredibly
affirming and not that they'reproblems to solve, but again, uh
more like projects to step intoor spaces to unlock within
yourself.
So even all of these rooms, likethe receiving parlor, they're
(16:37):
all created in a way where whenyou walk in, this is not, oh,
you have a wound and we need toclose that gap.
Like this is not the space forthat.
That's not that's not theenergy, that's not what's
resonant for me and my audience.
It wants to feel like it'sconfirmation of yes, there's
more inside of me.
We're unlocking potential, notfixing wounds.
SPEAKER_05 (16:55):
Yeah.
And the fact that there is areceiving parlor tells me that
I'm not the only one that needsthis, or I'm not the only one
that needs to be open to this,because there wouldn't be the
receiving parlor if it wasn'tnecessary or uh something that
we need to work on.
SPEAKER_01 (17:12):
I mean, this has been a long-standing, I think
women are okay admitting thatthey need to stretch their
capacity to receive.
Because I had a program many,many years ago that I ran twice
a year, and that was the basisof the entire program was
helping you stretch into your,and every single woman came in
like, yeah, I have a problemreceiving support.
I block it, I punt it, I resistit, I, you know, all of it.
(17:32):
So um, I think that area is onethat for my world has been quite
mainstream.
I think more recently, one ofthe other rooms is the Velvet
Library, and that's where you gointo increase your intuition.
SPEAKER_05 (17:44):
And that seems to be the called the what library?
What was it?
SPEAKER_01 (17:48):
Oh, the Velvet Library?
Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_05 (17:50):
Very cool.
SPEAKER_01 (17:50):
Okay, you go into that room to really hear that
inner knowing, that innerwisdom.
And that's a that to me is atopic right now that's emerging
pretty widely, and there's aheavy, heavy interest, both both
with men and women on increasingintuitive skills.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (18:04):
And I think there's a certain part of that that's
natural, and there's a certainpart you can work on.
You know what I'm saying?
I I think there's people thatdefinitely have more intuition
than others.
Do you think or no?
SPEAKER_01 (18:14):
Oh, I do for sure.
And I think that's where um thesensitivity comes in.
I think I think people that arehighly sensitive tend to also be
incredibly empathic.
And in being empathic, there's asense of being able to pick up
on information that is unseen.
So, yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_05 (18:29):
I love this.
This is so fun.
Is there a basement room?
SPEAKER_01 (18:33):
No.
Actually, I'm I'm working on it.
I'm working on something that islike a basement.
And it's it's it's the room thatyou go to when you really gotta
face some stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (18:43):
Oh, and that's an interesting yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (18:46):
And you need to, it's down in the unconscious or
the subconscious, and you reallygotta go in there and you gotta
work some stuff out.
SPEAKER_05 (18:50):
So it's and the basements are usually cluttered,
so there's a lot of stuff therethat you have to weed through to
get to what you're trying tofind, you know, that kind of
thing.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (18:59):
Yeah.
I was thinking, I was wonderingif there were some rooms, and
you create more rooms where thethere's certain rooms where only
men can go or will exist asopposed to for women.
SPEAKER_01 (19:12):
You know, that was another idea in my mind of
creating a wing.
So the existing platform couldbe the wing for women, and then
maybe down the road I open up awing for men and I create the
rooms based around kind of thedesires or the spaces inside of
men that they're looking toaccess.
Because some of them mayoverlap, but I would have to
(19:32):
talk differently to thataudience.
Yeah, and I would certainly haveto create the tracks
differently.
So it's also an idea that'sfloating.
SPEAKER_05 (19:39):
Well, if you need any help on those rooms, let us
know.
unknown (19:41):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (19:42):
I've got a I've got a mansion of rooms that you
could probably tell you about.
SPEAKER_02 (19:46):
Love, love.
SPEAKER_05 (19:49):
Yeah, so let's let's just keep going with this.
Do you want to talk about anyother rooms or no?
I mean, this is just greatstuff.
I think people are gonna lovethis.
SPEAKER_01 (19:56):
You know, if you go to resonance-house.com, there's
a one-minute preview of eachroom as well as a deep dive of
each room on there.
So everyone can go see the 12rooms that are there and kind of
experience a taste of it.
SPEAKER_05 (20:07):
What room is do you think is the most popular?
Is it the receiving one?
Is that the one that you thinkis the most important thing?
SPEAKER_01 (20:13):
No, there's a room called the Treasury, which is
all about material abundance andmoney.
I think that's one of the mostpopular ones.
Um, I love that room.
That audio track is awesome.
It just, you just there's athere's like a uh treasury bath
experience in that where you'reessentially like floating in the
in the energy of money.
SPEAKER_05 (20:30):
And it's it's just a really cool so it's money and a
positive thing, not a negativething.
SPEAKER_01 (20:34):
Yeah, money in a positive thing.
SPEAKER_05 (20:35):
Yeah, opening and opening up to it.
Yeah, I love it.
I love it.
That's it that I don't thinkI've ever heard of this
explained this way with therooms.
Uh, I think it really, reallyyou know what it does, it makes
it so visual for one.
Yeah, and it compartmentalizesthings too a little bit, so that
you don't so that you're notworking on all of yourself at
(20:57):
one time, you're working onpieces of yourself.
Like imagine if I said I wasgonna redo my house and I want
to paint all 12 rooms.
You people be like, You'recrazy.
Why don't you just take one roomat a time, right?
Right, right.
That's what you're doing.
You're painting one room at atime.
SPEAKER_01 (21:13):
And they ripple, you know, when you work on one
aspect, it can't not touch theother spaces.
So it really doesn't matterwhere you go, it's gonna ripple
out into every space, but thenalso almost every external
outcome, you take you with youwherever you go.
So if you work on your, youknow, there's a heart chamber
for relationship development,you know, if you go in there and
work on your marriage, it'sgonna ripple through to
relationship development in yourcareer.
(21:34):
So it's the nice thing aboutprofessional development, is
it's it's pretty hard tocompartmentalize.
SPEAKER_05 (21:38):
Yeah.
But okay, so when you werecoming up with this stuff, yeah,
what were what were the thingsthat you went that you realized
about yourself or you really gotdeep on going, holy mackerel, I
really needed to do this.
I really needed to do what I'mdoing here.
Was there a time where you'relike, this is groundbreaking?
You know, it's it's definitelysomething different and
(22:00):
groundbreaking.
It's very unique the way you'redoing it.
Did you sit there and go, ohman, this is this is good for
me?
Like I'm I'm really gettingsomething out of this too.
SPEAKER_01 (22:07):
I did.
Yeah.
I mean, accessing my creativitywas really important because I
was always a creative person.
Um, are you familiar with 4-H?
SPEAKER_05 (22:15):
Uh yeah, for some reason I do know 4-H.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_01 (22:18):
It's kind of the equivalent of like Boy Scouts,
Girl Scouts.
SPEAKER_05 (22:20):
Yes, I knew for that's what I thought it was.
SPEAKER_01 (22:23):
You do projects, you submit them at the end.
SPEAKER_05 (22:24):
Yes, yes, I know what it is.
SPEAKER_01 (22:26):
So I did that my entire childhood.
And the thing is you can pickproject areas that you're
innately interested in.
So since I was seven, everysummer I would do projects and
then you submit them for thefair.
And they were always creative.
I was always doing creativestuff.
And um, and I was always verymusical and musically inclined.
And so audio was a big part ofmy life and or just, you know,
music in in general andprofessional development.
(22:49):
I mean, ever since I was little,I was in 4-H doing
demonstrations on accessorizingyour wardrobe or acing the
interview.
Like I was always veryinterested in how we have
built-in tools to get things.
SPEAKER_02 (22:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (22:59):
And so for me, I did find a career where I was doing
that, helping people usebuilt-in tools to get things.
But as the years went on, I kindof whittled away that creative
side to me.
Um, I think you just fall into agroove of this is how it's done
in the coaching industry, andthis is these are best
practices.
And so when I stepped back andhad some space to really deep
(23:21):
dive with the support of peopleand mentors, I really, really
was like, I'm bored.
Like I'm I'm gonna, you know,reinvent, but I cannot do it the
same way I am bored.
And I'm the kind of person Ihave to feel passionate about
what I'm doing.
I lead with myself and mypersonal brand.
So if I'm not fully behind itwith all of my energy, I know
(23:42):
it's gonna make my marketing andsales a lot harder.
SPEAKER_05 (23:44):
Yeah, because it's not authentic.
SPEAKER_01 (23:46):
It's right, right.
And so when I when I came upwith this, I mean, of course I
was totally over the moon.
Um, and it just it just it feltlike all facets of me just
locked into place.
Like all of my favorite things,everything I love to do, it just
all kind of clicked into place.
So it's it's been like ahomecoming for me, really, in a
lot of ways.
SPEAKER_05 (24:06):
Yeah, that's really cool.
And you're only 41.
My goodness.
I'm only 41.
You got so much to do yet.
I mean, that's unbelievable.
That's great, that's awesome.
I I love the the power ofstyling your energy and
transitioning states.
I the vacation mode to workmode, work mode to mom mode.
Like, can we talk about that alittle bit?
SPEAKER_01 (24:27):
Oh, for sure.
Um, so I have a four-year-oldand a one-year-old.
Oh, good for you.
I know how that goes when I'm indrive mode all day getting stuff
done, and then they come home at3:30.
And if I don't transition, I'mgonna take that into mom mode.
And we do it, right?
Like it happens.
It's not great.
SPEAKER_05 (24:46):
It's not great to be in the there's usually some,
some, some things in betweenthat blend, I'm sure.
When it goes from there to mommode.
SPEAKER_01 (24:54):
Yeah, yeah.
It's um, you know, I bring acertain energy that is meant for
maybe the boardroom that is notmeant for being a mom, right?
And and it doesn't work.
And so having transitions oreven just, you know, knowing I'm
gonna leave for the weekend on astaycation with my husband,
let's get out of that mode andlet me shut my brain down and go
into this space.
(25:14):
It has been so helpful for forme to intentionally decide who
I'm gonna be in the circumstancethat I'm about to step into.
Not only does it allow me tohave a tremendous amount of
self-agency, but when youapproach it in a way that's not
rigid, you also are much moreadaptable to going with the flow
because it's not gonna go theway that you probably want all
(25:36):
the time, right?
So if I at least intend like,hey, I'm about to move into a
space, and who I need to be isin fun mode and relaxation mode,
and I need to turn thatcontrolling manager part of me
off, and I just want to be inlike fun, you know?
Um, it has been so helpful.
SPEAKER_05 (25:52):
And it allows me to be more present.
Well, yeah, and that's that'sour biggest thing as
entrepreneurs, as as drivenpeople, is we tend to blend
blend the spaces, the blend thepeople that we are.
So we we end up doing personalstuff when we're at work, doing
work stuff when we're doingpersonal stuff.
You know what I mean?
(26:12):
So, you know, a lot of timesit's really hard.
It's hard.
It's and it to me, it's a workin progress.
It is constant.
I mean, I don't care who youare, we're human.
You we know what we're supposedto do, but it doesn't mean that
it always goes perfectly likethat.
But part of the whole thing isbeing aware of it, right?
If you're aware of it, you canat least do a better job at it.
SPEAKER_01 (26:34):
You know, well, you know, I think there's only one
thing you really need to beaware of that then you go, I
need to take a pause and reallylisten for the deeper
self-awareness is friction.
It's like the goal is flow.
And if it's not flowing, there'sfriction.
And if there's if I'm feelingany kind of friction, it's
because something's not inalignment.
And most of the time I havecontrol over that.
Sometimes it's just no.
(26:55):
And maybe you do have to pushthrough, but I really don't like
to be in any kind of likepush-through energy.
Um, and so even just stylingyour energy when it comes to
like the workday, there arecertain things that require the
creative part of me to lead.
But if I don't know that when Isit down, let's say to write
content for marketing, thatneeds to come from the creative
part of me, not the manager partof me.
(27:16):
If you don't set that intention,you will go in there managing
it, and then you end up havingcontent or creating something
that's really not that magnetic.
It's it could be great, but it'sit's not gonna be as magnetic
when I come from the creativepart of me.
SPEAKER_05 (27:29):
Totally understand.
I I used to write music.
I was a musician too.
I should say, I'm still amusician, yeah.
I sang for many years.
Still sing here and there.
Um, but yeah, I agree with you.
When I used to write music, youyou you can't go into writing
music of I'm gonna write music.
It's gotta be, it has to comethrough you.
It has to come through you andand be a very um uh hard to say,
(27:51):
like a rat relaxed thing.
It shouldn't be forced.
And when you're forcingcreativity, it's not creativity.
SPEAKER_01 (27:56):
No, it's production.
SPEAKER_05 (27:57):
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, absolutely.
Very good term for that.
So let's go into before we wrapthis up, let's go into highly
sensitive people.
I've never really heard of thatterm or really, I mean, I might
have, but and you're saying 20%of the population set uh and
sensory significance is highlysensitive person.
So HSP is someone who processessensory information, emotions,
(28:18):
social cues more deeply thanmost people.
And you said that you are ahighly sensitive person, is that
right?
SPEAKER_02 (28:24):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (28:25):
So tell me what does that mean?
What does that do for you?
What is it?
What are the setbacks of that?
Or tell me what that all is.
SPEAKER_01 (28:31):
So it's a superpower and it's annoying because you
you feel everything.
And as my husband would say, noteverything's 10 layers deep.
Um this sounds familiar.
You you I I feel it more thanI'm picking up on words.
And that term was not coineduntil like the past 20 years.
(28:51):
It's a relatively new body ofresearch and it is a biological,
neurobiological like differencein that part of the population,
evenly split between men andwomen, so it's not more women
than men, it's even split.
What does it look like?
SPEAKER_05 (29:04):
Like, what do you what how do you feel?
What do you see?
What is different than likesomebody that doesn't have that?
SPEAKER_01 (29:10):
It's like I can tell by my husband's footsteps, let's
say, when he's walking aroundthe house, that like something's
off, or he just had aconfrontational conversation.
And then if you know, if Ilisten, which is for me, it's a
felt sense.
I pick up very deeply onemotional patterns that are
happening within someone, evenwhen they're masking it through
their presence.
(29:31):
And so I can feel the emotionalundercurrents of what's going on
with someone.
Makes me a very fast read andfast study of people.
It's been great for coaching.
Um, and actually, I think whenwe first connected, we I didn't
have resonance house, actually.
SPEAKER_05 (29:46):
No, you didn't, you did not.
It was not, it was something itwas like your Instagram page.
SPEAKER_01 (29:51):
I was doing photo readings.
That's what you were doing.
SPEAKER_05 (29:54):
I totally forgot about that.
SPEAKER_01 (29:56):
Yeah, that's what you're doing.
SPEAKER_05 (29:57):
Photo readings, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (29:59):
So people were.
Did you read my photo?
I did not.
No, you never submitted photos.
SPEAKER_05 (30:03):
Ah, son of a gun.
And you know what's funny?
We were I was supposed to dothat.
I totally forgot that that'swhat that was what you were
doing.
SPEAKER_01 (30:10):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (30:11):
So that's actually what attracted me was that.
And then and then also well,what's good about this is then
when you came, when you reachedout again, or I reached out to
you, I saw you all of a sudden Isaw this different thing, and it
was the residence house.
I'm like, oh, that must be whatI really thought was cool.
But it was I remember thepicture readings, yes.
SPEAKER_01 (30:28):
Well, the energy reads are on residence house, so
people can find those there.
But it's it's me picking up onyour so you send me five photos.
I'm we're not live, I pull themup on my screen, and I'm able to
I turn my camera on like this,and I just flow for about 25
minutes based on what I'mfeeling, what I'm seeing,
untapped potential, somechallenges that might be going
on.
So some people might liken it tointuitive reads, but frankly,
(30:50):
it's just me leveraging mysensitivity.
I just I pick up on everything.
Um I've done hundreds of them.
I've had a lot of them, and it'sbeen really great for people to
just feel seen.
You know, just like a lot oftimes the power of just feeling
seen and having someonearticulate your emotions back to
you when you can't put words tothem.
And that's kind of the sweetspot that I've landed in.
(31:11):
So again, with sensitivity, youknow, for a long time, as most
sensitive people, they thinkit's a bad thing because it's
just it's so much.
You I mean, like a day liketoday, we're recording on
September 11th.
There were a lot of things thathappened yesterday.
You know, it's it's a it's aheavy day.
Yeah, it's a really heavy day.
And um collectively, you know,sensitive people tend to absorb
(31:31):
a lot.
And so and the nice thing aboutsomething like Resonance House
is you start to come intocontrol of your energy instead
of letting it get hijacked byeverything that's going on
around you.
And that's a really big umchallenge for highly sensitive
people is not letting theirmoods and their emotions hijack
them.
SPEAKER_05 (31:47):
Yeah, wow, interesting.
That's very, very cool.
No, I it's it's uh reallyinteresting stuff.
And and so next time, are yougonna have something else that
I'm gonna have to like uh learnor do?
Or I mean you're constantlychanging things.
SPEAKER_01 (32:01):
No, I mean, I hope not.
This is it.
This was a two and a half yearhiatus to reinvent.
Now I'm I'm digging my heels inon resmond's house.
SPEAKER_05 (32:08):
Well, and thank goodness I'm not looking out on
Instagram trying to find thegirl that was reading pictures.
I mean it's so funny because Itotally remember going, oh, this
will be kind of cool.
I'll send her my picture beforethe show and she'll uh read it,
and then I'll be like yelling ather, telling her she's wrong,
and yeah.
No, I would never do that.
But no, I I really appreciateyou coming on the show today.
(32:29):
Um what what a great time.
You are easy.
You're not only you're eatyou're good at reading people,
you're but you're also easy totalk to.
Very easy to talk to.
And I can see why Sylvie and youwere uh in partners together in
a business because you're youboth are wonderful people.
Really cool people.
Is there anything else that youwant to say?
Um how do we find you?
SPEAKER_01 (32:51):
But find me over at uh resonance-house.com, and then
I'm Shauna Van Bogart across toeverything, but predominantly
Instagram.
I am over on Substack as well.
That's a newer thing.
SPEAKER_05 (33:01):
Awesome, awesome.
So great.
I it's great to see you.
Thanks for being on the show.
I'm sure we'll have you backagain sometime.
Pretty sure about that.
Alrighty, take care.
SPEAKER_00 (33:09):
Bye.
SPEAKER_05 (33:09):
Bye.
All right, oh my god, greatshow.
What do you think, Hugo?
SPEAKER_00 (33:14):
I saw, I saw.
Pretty amazing, pretty amazing.
SPEAKER_05 (33:17):
Shauna Van Bogart.
Van Bogart, she's fromCharleston, South Carolina.
You want to check her out.
Uh Residence House.
Just look up Residence House.
I know it's in there.
It's on Instagram.
She's got a website.
There's so much good stuffthere.
Um, thanks for listening againevery Thursday, 7 p.m.
We'll see you next week.
All right.
Real estate market as a whole sometimes will affect
it.
Right.
Okay.
In real life, we all learn it.
If you think about it, WayneDyer might not attract everybody
and everything in between.
The Brad Wiseman show.
And now your host, Brad Wiseman.
SPEAKER_05 (00:26):
All right.
We have a great show lined upfor you tonight.
I gotta tell you.
I'm excited.
Hugo, I'm excited.
SPEAKER_00 (00:32):
You're excited?
SPEAKER_05 (00:33):
I'm really excited, yeah.
You know, it's it's cool.
We're starting, you know, we'vealways had great guests, always
had great guests, but we'rewe're getting, we're just kind
of like really getting a lot ofuh traction on some just
fantastic guests that are comingin, telling their stories, and
it's really exciting.
So, you know, um this this ladyhere was actually introduced to
(00:55):
us through Sylvie DeJusto, whichI didn't realize until we were
just talking.
Um, but yeah, she was brought tous from from uh Sylvie, and her
it's it's she's from Charleston,South Carolina.
It says this is one of thethings that's that I just caught
me.
It says, meet any moment fromyour power, not your patterns.
Uh, I saw that, and then I sawnot only is energy your
currency, but how you spend itis your power.
(01:17):
When you read those kind ofquotes and when you see that
kind of stuff, it just it setsit sets you off and goes, man, I
want to know more about this.
Let's hear it.
Yeah.
So Shauna Van Bogart is ourguest tonight, and I'm super
excited.
She's coming from Charleston,South Carolina.
What's the weather like downthere?
SPEAKER_01 (01:32):
80s.
SPEAKER_05 (01:33):
Still.
It's still.
Was that it?
Was that a dig on the north?
I think that was a dig on thenorth.
SPEAKER_01 (01:38):
I'm a Minnesota net heart.
SPEAKER_05 (01:39):
So I thought you were digging on us.
SPEAKER_01 (01:42):
August around here is not my thing.
SPEAKER_05 (01:44):
Oh, yeah.
It's really hot down there inAugust, right?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (01:47):
Right.
So then when September hits, I'mlike, let's let's go.
Let's go.
SPEAKER_05 (01:50):
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Well, I it's it's a place thatmost people say, you know, when
I'm done working, when I retire,I'm going to South Carolina or
North Carolina or Georgia.
You know, people just want toget away from, they want to get
away from up here because thethe winters are a little rough.
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (02:05):
They're a little rough.
SPEAKER_05 (02:06):
Yeah.
So yeah.
So it's so funny how we figuredout how we know each other.
Well, you figured it out.
You knew right away.
It's through Sylvie, and we, andyou know, we we have a great uh
common friend, uh, it's SylvieDeJusto, who we who we love.
So uh that's cool.
SPEAKER_02 (02:20):
Yeah, she's easy to love.
SPEAKER_05 (02:22):
She's easy to love.
She definitely is.
So yeah, so I've been watchingyour your stuff on Instagram.
I've been I've been looking ateverything you're doing, I've
watched the websites, andrecently you you started this
new thing called ResonanceHouse, or at least new that I
could see, and maybe you've beenworking on it for a while.
It is really, really cool whatI'm seeing on there.
(02:42):
A lot of it has to do with likeenergy and stuff like that, it
has to do with image, it has todo with you know, um, all those
things.
So I just wanted to say beforewe get started, some of the
other things that you've done isthat you were top, you were
world's top personal brandingexpert by Huffington Post.
They named you that.
Tell us a little bit about that,the personal branding that
you've done.
SPEAKER_01 (03:01):
Yeah, so I came into image consulting in 2008, 2009.
And that meant something verydifferent to me when I launched
it in Charleston than how it wasreceived.
SPEAKER_02 (03:12):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (03:12):
So I took that word and I said, you know, it needs a
different label.
And at that time, the internetwas a very different place.
SPEAKER_03 (03:20):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (03:20):
Social media was very different.
It was just taking off in bigways, like professionally.
And I really entered the marketof working with people's
presence at that time as animage consultant in a really
interesting time period becauseeverything was moving to online
presence and cultivating youronline persona.
And so at that time, I switchedit over to personal branding as
(03:42):
I kind of burrowed deeper intomy craft.
And initially, what was workingwith appearance, body language,
communication became workingwith people's presence online.
SPEAKER_03 (03:52):
Wow.
SPEAKER_01 (03:52):
Um, and so I kind of lingered in that world uh for
several years.
And then with Sylvie, welaunched a training hub uh that
was international for a while.
We had that for several years,and I just kept going deeper and
deeper into people's presence.
SPEAKER_05 (04:06):
Wow.
And so that's how it started.
So you just kind of you you kindof used to scratch the surface a
little bit, and now you'reyou're going in.
You're going in.
You're taking it deeper.
SPEAKER_03 (04:16):
I'm not, I'm going there.
SPEAKER_05 (04:18):
Right, great.
What's what she's gonna sayabout me, Hugo?
Um, but no, but it you're goingin.
You're actually just becauseit's it's so true.
What we see out here iscompletely different than what's
going on in here, you know, andI think that's a big thing
today.
It's almost it's such a commonthing I'm hearing with our
guests today that come in on theshow is about being you gotta be
(04:38):
good to yourself or withyourself before you can do
anything else.
You have to have the rightenergy inside, or you're gonna
give off bad thing vibes andthings on the outside.
Right, right.
So, so let's go into this wholething of what is what is
resonance?
You have this site calledResonance House.
What is resonance?
What does that mean to you?
SPEAKER_01 (04:59):
It's a deep alignment with an inner world
and your outer world.
Uh, in the shortest way, it's avibe and you know it.
You know it when you walk into ahouse.
You resonate with it or not, youcan feel it has an energy to it
or not.
Um, we resonate with certainpeople.
So it's really a deep, inherentconnection that we have to
something.
SPEAKER_05 (05:18):
That's cool.
So it resonates.
I mean, that's the the wordresonates.
It resonates with you.
Uh and you know, and and we justhad somebody on here recently
talking about the the energy ina house that we that we uh
talked to as Adam, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, and he was talking about,I mean, he sages homes.
He actually goes in and doessaging, staging in uh instead of
staging or both, he does.
(05:40):
Um and he does it because hesays if there's a divorce in the
house, there's energy in therethat needs to needs to be maybe
changed.
You know, and and it's it'sinteresting.
So what do you what do you offerthen to people that come to you?
What do you what are you doing?
Like, how do you do this?
SPEAKER_01 (05:56):
Yeah, so um I've been in professional
development, obviously, since2009.
And over the years, I had a verytraditional coaching platform.
Uh, my offer stack was whatyou'd see from a lot of coaches,
one-to-one coaching, signatureprograms.
And a few years ago, I just kindof was looking around at the
industry and I noticed there wasa shift happening.
And I'm constantly asking myselfthe question, how can I get even
(06:18):
better results?
And for me, it was how can Icreate more of an experience and
give people the direct result,not so much a lot of lecturing
or intellectual theories thatI'm giving them in programs and
then they have to take home andimplement.
Like, how can I just give themthe result?
So as I sat back for years, Ialso went on my own personal
(06:40):
journey, as we do in ourreinventions.
And what I learned now lookingback is that the way that I got
here to Resonance House was thatI had to access more of me.
And it's kind of the old adage.
Um, perhaps even previous guestshave talked about it when you
talk about being versus doing,it's like when you're gonna go
to a different place or adifferent level, whether that's
(07:01):
in a relationship or yoursuccess, career, whatever, you
oftentimes have to be or shiftidentity to get there.
Like it's not gonna take thesame things to get to the next
level.
And so as I stepped back, Irealized I really needed to tap
into my intuition and own thoseskills.
I really had to tap into mysense of creativity and go even
(07:21):
deeper and like push boundariesin that department.
And so I started unlocking thesedifferent spaces inside of
myself, of course, with the helpof mentors and all of that.
And then as I look at myaudience and I just kind of sat
back and listened for almost twoyears to what was happening,
what was going on to myaudience, uh, what were their
direct needs.
(07:41):
And this idea of energy startedto become a bigger topic I was
seeing online.
And innately, that's always beensomething as a highly sensitive
person that I pick up on since Iwas a child.
You know, I can walk into a roomand I can know exactly what the
pulse is between that group ofpeople and this group of people.
And there's been some otherservices I've done with working
(08:01):
with people's energy and beingable to express back to them
what's going on inside of thembefore they could really see it.
And so I'm taking all thisexperience and I'm going, how
can I deliver this?
And along my journey, I had uhgone and gotten my um
hypnotherapy certification aswell, and had a mentor that I
worked with for about a year anda half in that department.
(08:22):
So I was doing hypnotherapy tocreate changes on a really
subconscious level with people.
And most of what I was doing wasself-hypnosis tracks.
And so as I took all of thesethings together, I thought, you
know what, wouldn't it be coolif there was a house, a
metaphorical house, that womencould step into as this online
platform and unlock these samerooms, oftentimes spaces within
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themselves that they don'treally access on a regular basis
for a lot of reasons.
And so that's kind of where theidea started.
And inside of these rooms, thecore of it are these audio
immersive journeys.
But that again, I also wanted totake to a whole different level.
I didn't just want a typicalself-hypnosis track.
I don't know if you've everlistened to one.
It's like a guided meditation.
SPEAKER_05 (09:04):
Yeah.
So when you say, yeah, is it theaudio track?
I mean, we use actually we useit sometimes with my son and my
daughter.
We've used these, these thecalming ones to to go to sleep.
You're you're there's no danger,everything's okay, you know,
that kind of stuff.
So is it that kind of it it'sit's it it's uh hypnotic.
Yeah, it kind of just calms youdown and puts you to sleep.
Puts me, it puts me out rightaway.
SPEAKER_01 (09:26):
Oh, totally.
Yeah, people are much more umyou know susceptible to being
hypnotized than others.
You know, I really wanted totake it one step further and and
make it more of an energy.
Especially, I think womenespecially pick up on that.
When we go into certainenvironments, it's either ah,
like an exhale, or we're like,this environment's not it.
Like vibes are off.
Um, and so as I understood myaudience really well, I knew
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there were some basic desiresthey weren't getting enough of
that if they had in their life,like deepening their intuition
or their creativity, that theycould go do the things they
needed to do and have theoutcomes they were looking for
across the board.
So then the goal became how do Ibottle up these energies into a
15-minute audio track that islike a hypnosis, but much more
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of a scene that they're a maincharacter of that I'm putting
them in that's really cinematicin tone and music, and it's much
more like a journey.
So I started playing with that.
It was really well received, andthen that's the rest of the
thing.
SPEAKER_05 (10:22):
That's that's really different.
I I don't know if I've everheard of that, something like
that.
I haven't either.
And it's you, it's your voicedoing it?
SPEAKER_01 (10:30):
It's my voice.
So uh did not know that I had aknack for um audio tracks and
narration, but here I do.
So this is not my this is not myhypnosis voice, but if you can
you give us can you give us alittle bit of your hypnosis
voice?
SPEAKER_05 (10:45):
We'd love to hear it.
Man, come on, come on, we wantto hear this.
SPEAKER_01 (10:48):
All right, Brad.
SPEAKER_05 (10:49):
Go ahead.
SPEAKER_01 (10:50):
Take a deep breath.
Inhale and exhale.
And then imagine you're steppinginto a room filled with swirling
lavender light.
SPEAKER_05 (11:04):
That's good.
That was good.
You sound like the are you thelady that's on on the track we
give that my son listens to?
SPEAKER_01 (11:11):
Maybe.
I made a little journeyscollection uh and there's a
kid's sleep track in there.
That's killing it.
SPEAKER_05 (11:17):
Wait, that'd be like shocked.
Wait, I wait, wait, wait, wait,wait.
Is it possible that's the onewe're using?
SPEAKER_01 (11:22):
No, I don't think so.
Oh no, she's side residenthouse.
SPEAKER_05 (11:25):
I'm like, that's kind of creepy.
SPEAKER_01 (11:28):
But it's it's yeah, it's taking that is so cool.
I'm like, maybe I need to pivotinto kids' bedtime.
SPEAKER_05 (11:38):
Well, I think you know what it is.
Kid kids, they have a lot ofinput, a lot of input coming
into them.
They have a lot coming in.
I can't shut up.
It's hard to and and and so dowe.
It's just that I think wesomehow we're able to, or maybe
we're not either, but somehowwe're we're able to maybe deal
with it better.
But they get so much, just somuch coming in.
And I think it's just nice tohear that calming voice saying
(12:01):
it's all gonna be okay.
Everything's gonna be okay, it'sall good.
You know, close your eyes.
Tomorrow's another day.
You know, it's kind of that'skind of the stuff that that that
I hear on there.
And it's and it's stuff, listenus.
I mean, we're talking about thesame stuff, we're adults, and we
need we need the same thingsthey need.
We desperately need it.
Yeah, I mean, we do.
We need we need all of that.
And and I think it's it's whatis really cool though is that
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I'm the the common denominator Ikeep hearing is this energy and
and um and you know, figuringout the different rooms.
Now let's go back to the roomsthing.
SPEAKER_02 (12:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (12:34):
What give me an example of a room like that that
you've discovered or that you'veuncovered inside yourself?
SPEAKER_01 (12:41):
I'm gonna take it one step further.
I'm gonna give you a common onejust among women.
So this was a threshold Icrossed myself, but I see it all
the time with my clients.
One of the rooms I created isthe receiving parlor because
women are notoriously bad atreceiving, whether that's
support, gifts, complimentswithout deflecting or feeling
the need to immediatelyreciprocate.
(13:01):
Um, and a lot of the women thatI work with, we're talking high
performers, insane drive anddetermination.
They're oftentimeshyper-independent and doing
everything themselves.
And they do it pretty well.
SPEAKER_05 (13:13):
And controlling, probably too.
SPEAKER_01 (13:15):
And controlling.
SPEAKER_05 (13:16):
Not good at delegating.
SPEAKER_01 (13:17):
Yes, controlling, managing, right?
Um, and so one of the areas thata lot of women have even said,
like, I need to work onexpanding my capacity to
receive.
Oh wow and that is either again,love support, more money, uh uh
stable money, uh, whatever.
So that particular room is areally important one because
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that opens the door to so muchother stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (13:41):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:41):
I mean, a lot of times too, I think people will
invest in themselves, but theydo kind of have a block on
receiving what's being given tothem because it's triggering.
It's it's a it's a vulnerableposition to be in.
A state of giving is a powerposition.
SPEAKER_05 (13:54):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (13:54):
Um, it's a control position.
And so rip being in a receivingposition is it's vulnerable.
SPEAKER_05 (13:58):
Well, and a lot of times that begins with asking
for help.
Absolutely.
And then what comes back fromwhen when you ask for help,
which is a very brave thing todo sometimes, or feels like
you're weak when you ask forhelp.
Right.
Um, because we're kind of taughtthat, I guess, through society.
And then all of a sudden youreceive the help.
Right.
Now you feel even more likeyou're, you know, it's hard that
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to receive.
And I don't even and it's funny,I don't, and I guess it's more
it what you're saying is it'smore common with women.
You you you feel that thatthat's the way it is.
Or is it just because you are awoman and you're feeling that,
okay, this is how I feel.
SPEAKER_01 (14:32):
I think I I mean it goes both ways, of course.
But I think, you know, I wasraised, I'm 41, and I was raised
in a generation where I saw, youknow, my parents saying, like,
you be independent.
SPEAKER_02 (14:43):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (14:44):
Like you go off and make your own.
And most of my colleagues andfriends in the same kind of age,
demographic, same way.
And so there was this fierceindependence.
We like, you know, left highschool and it was like, I'm
doing it all myself.
SPEAKER_05 (14:56):
And so um you want to know a statistic that'll
follow that that you're gonna beamazed by.
There, the statistic of singlewomen buying homes far exceeds
single men buying homes.
SPEAKER_01 (15:10):
Interesting.
SPEAKER_05 (15:11):
Is that cool or what?
SPEAKER_01 (15:12):
Yeah, for you to know.
SPEAKER_05 (15:13):
No, it's a good point for you to know because
it's a good and it's a fact.
I mean, that is it's a statisticthat if you look at it, uh,
because what's weird is a lot oftimes the men will, the boys
will stay at home for a longertime.
And the girls are moreindependent, women are more
independent and ready to makethat jump out of the nest.
SPEAKER_02 (15:32):
Right.
SPEAKER_05 (15:32):
And they end up buying homes by themselves.
We see it.
I'm telling you, it'sunbelievable how many more times
we see it.
Yeah, I just thought you wouldwant to know that from the real
estate angle.
I mean, yeah.
I happen to know something aboutreal estate every once in a
while.
unknown (15:45):
I would hope so.
SPEAKER_05 (15:46):
Yeah, me too.
But no, so keep going with that.
So basically, the um thereceiving is a big what the
receiving parlor, is that whatyou said?
I love that.
I love that.
SPEAKER_01 (15:55):
And the thing for me, um, you know, I worked with
people on really deep levels fora long time.
And therapeutic presence, Idon't know if you've heard that
term, but in it's a therapyterm, of course.
Therapeutic presence isbasically when the provider has
a certain depth of connectionwith their client.
And that leading to betterresults, it's been studied and
(16:15):
verified.
And so as I deepen my ownpresence when I'm with someone
in connection and conversation,one of the things that I know is
really important is treating allof these things as incredibly
affirming and not that they'reproblems to solve, but again, uh
more like projects to step intoor spaces to unlock within
yourself.
So even all of these rooms, likethe receiving parlor, they're
(16:37):
all created in a way where whenyou walk in, this is not, oh,
you have a wound and we need toclose that gap.
Like this is not the space forthat.
That's not that's not theenergy, that's not what's
resonant for me and my audience.
It wants to feel like it'sconfirmation of yes, there's
more inside of me.
We're unlocking potential, notfixing wounds.
SPEAKER_05 (16:55):
Yeah.
And the fact that there is areceiving parlor tells me that
I'm not the only one that needsthis, or I'm not the only one
that needs to be open to this,because there wouldn't be the
receiving parlor if it wasn'tnecessary or uh something that
we need to work on.
SPEAKER_01 (17:12):
I mean, this has been a long-standing, I think
women are okay admitting thatthey need to stretch their
capacity to receive.
Because I had a program many,many years ago that I ran twice
a year, and that was the basisof the entire program was
helping you stretch into your,and every single woman came in
like, yeah, I have a problemreceiving support.
I block it, I punt it, I resistit, I, you know, all of it.
(17:32):
So um, I think that area is onethat for my world has been quite
mainstream.
I think more recently, one ofthe other rooms is the Velvet
Library, and that's where you gointo increase your intuition.
SPEAKER_05 (17:44):
And that seems to be the called the what library?
What was it?
SPEAKER_01 (17:48):
Oh, the Velvet Library?
Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_05 (17:50):
Very cool.
SPEAKER_01 (17:50):
Okay, you go into that room to really hear that
inner knowing, that innerwisdom.
And that's a that to me is atopic right now that's emerging
pretty widely, and there's aheavy, heavy interest, both both
with men and women on increasingintuitive skills.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (18:04):
And I think there's a certain part of that that's
natural, and there's a certainpart you can work on.
You know what I'm saying?
I I think there's people thatdefinitely have more intuition
than others.
Do you think or no?
SPEAKER_01 (18:14):
Oh, I do for sure.
And I think that's where um thesensitivity comes in.
I think I think people that arehighly sensitive tend to also be
incredibly empathic.
And in being empathic, there's asense of being able to pick up
on information that is unseen.
So, yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_05 (18:29):
I love this.
This is so fun.
Is there a basement room?
SPEAKER_01 (18:33):
No.
Actually, I'm I'm working on it.
I'm working on something that islike a basement.
And it's it's it's the room thatyou go to when you really gotta
face some stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (18:43):
Oh, and that's an interesting yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (18:46):
And you need to, it's down in the unconscious or
the subconscious, and you reallygotta go in there and you gotta
work some stuff out.
SPEAKER_05 (18:50):
So it's and the basements are usually cluttered,
so there's a lot of stuff therethat you have to weed through to
get to what you're trying tofind, you know, that kind of
thing.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (18:59):
Yeah.
I was thinking, I was wonderingif there were some rooms, and
you create more rooms where thethere's certain rooms where only
men can go or will exist asopposed to for women.
SPEAKER_01 (19:12):
You know, that was another idea in my mind of
creating a wing.
So the existing platform couldbe the wing for women, and then
maybe down the road I open up awing for men and I create the
rooms based around kind of thedesires or the spaces inside of
men that they're looking toaccess.
Because some of them mayoverlap, but I would have to
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talk differently to thataudience.
Yeah, and I would certainly haveto create the tracks
differently.
So it's also an idea that'sfloating.
SPEAKER_05 (19:39):
Well, if you need any help on those rooms, let us
know.
unknown (19:41):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (19:42):
I've got a I've got a mansion of rooms that you
could probably tell you about.
SPEAKER_02 (19:46):
Love, love.
SPEAKER_05 (19:49):
Yeah, so let's let's just keep going with this.
Do you want to talk about anyother rooms or no?
I mean, this is just greatstuff.
I think people are gonna lovethis.
SPEAKER_01 (19:56):
You know, if you go to resonance-house.com, there's
a one-minute preview of eachroom as well as a deep dive of
each room on there.
So everyone can go see the 12rooms that are there and kind of
experience a taste of it.
SPEAKER_05 (20:07):
What room is do you think is the most popular?
Is it the receiving one?
Is that the one that you thinkis the most important thing?
SPEAKER_01 (20:13):
No, there's a room called the Treasury, which is
all about material abundance andmoney.
I think that's one of the mostpopular ones.
Um, I love that room.
That audio track is awesome.
It just, you just there's athere's like a uh treasury bath
experience in that where you'reessentially like floating in the
in the energy of money.
SPEAKER_05 (20:30):
And it's it's just a really cool so it's money and a
positive thing, not a negativething.
SPEAKER_01 (20:34):
Yeah, money in a positive thing.
SPEAKER_05 (20:35):
Yeah, opening and opening up to it.
Yeah, I love it.
I love it.
That's it that I don't thinkI've ever heard of this
explained this way with therooms.
Uh, I think it really, reallyyou know what it does, it makes
it so visual for one.
Yeah, and it compartmentalizesthings too a little bit, so that
you don't so that you're notworking on all of yourself at
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one time, you're working onpieces of yourself.
Like imagine if I said I wasgonna redo my house and I want
to paint all 12 rooms.
You people be like, You'recrazy.
Why don't you just take one roomat a time, right?
Right, right.
That's what you're doing.
You're painting one room at atime.
SPEAKER_01 (21:13):
And they ripple, you know, when you work on one
aspect, it can't not touch theother spaces.
So it really doesn't matterwhere you go, it's gonna ripple
out into every space, but thenalso almost every external
outcome, you take you with youwherever you go.
So if you work on your, youknow, there's a heart chamber
for relationship development,you know, if you go in there and
work on your marriage, it'sgonna ripple through to
relationship development in yourcareer.
(21:34):
So it's the nice thing aboutprofessional development, is
it's it's pretty hard tocompartmentalize.
SPEAKER_05 (21:38):
Yeah.
But okay, so when you werecoming up with this stuff, yeah,
what were what were the thingsthat you went that you realized
about yourself or you really gotdeep on going, holy mackerel, I
really needed to do this.
I really needed to do what I'mdoing here.
Was there a time where you'relike, this is groundbreaking?
You know, it's it's definitelysomething different and
(22:00):
groundbreaking.
It's very unique the way you'redoing it.
Did you sit there and go, ohman, this is this is good for
me?
Like I'm I'm really gettingsomething out of this too.
SPEAKER_01 (22:07):
I did.
Yeah.
I mean, accessing my creativitywas really important because I
was always a creative person.
Um, are you familiar with 4-H?
SPEAKER_05 (22:15):
Uh yeah, for some reason I do know 4-H.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_01 (22:18):
It's kind of the equivalent of like Boy Scouts,
Girl Scouts.
SPEAKER_05 (22:20):
Yes, I knew for that's what I thought it was.
SPEAKER_01 (22:23):
You do projects, you submit them at the end.
SPEAKER_05 (22:24):
Yes, yes, I know what it is.
SPEAKER_01 (22:26):
So I did that my entire childhood.
And the thing is you can pickproject areas that you're
innately interested in.
So since I was seven, everysummer I would do projects and
then you submit them for thefair.
And they were always creative.
I was always doing creativestuff.
And um, and I was always verymusical and musically inclined.
And so audio was a big part ofmy life and or just, you know,
music in in general andprofessional development.
(22:49):
I mean, ever since I was little,I was in 4-H doing
demonstrations on accessorizingyour wardrobe or acing the
interview.
Like I was always veryinterested in how we have
built-in tools to get things.
SPEAKER_02 (22:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (22:59):
And so for me, I did find a career where I was doing
that, helping people usebuilt-in tools to get things.
But as the years went on, I kindof whittled away that creative
side to me.
Um, I think you just fall into agroove of this is how it's done
in the coaching industry, andthis is these are best
practices.
And so when I stepped back andhad some space to really deep
(23:21):
dive with the support of peopleand mentors, I really, really
was like, I'm bored.
Like I'm I'm gonna, you know,reinvent, but I cannot do it the
same way I am bored.
And I'm the kind of person Ihave to feel passionate about
what I'm doing.
I lead with myself and mypersonal brand.
So if I'm not fully behind itwith all of my energy, I know
(23:42):
it's gonna make my marketing andsales a lot harder.
SPEAKER_05 (23:44):
Yeah, because it's not authentic.
SPEAKER_01 (23:46):
It's right, right.
And so when I when I came upwith this, I mean, of course I
was totally over the moon.
Um, and it just it just it feltlike all facets of me just
locked into place.
Like all of my favorite things,everything I love to do, it just
all kind of clicked into place.
So it's it's been like ahomecoming for me, really, in a
lot of ways.
SPEAKER_05 (24:06):
Yeah, that's really cool.
And you're only 41.
My goodness.
I'm only 41.
You got so much to do yet.
I mean, that's unbelievable.
That's great, that's awesome.
I I love the the power ofstyling your energy and
transitioning states.
I the vacation mode to workmode, work mode to mom mode.
Like, can we talk about that alittle bit?
SPEAKER_01 (24:27):
Oh, for sure.
Um, so I have a four-year-oldand a one-year-old.
Oh, good for you.
I know how that goes when I'm indrive mode all day getting stuff
done, and then they come home at3:30.
And if I don't transition, I'mgonna take that into mom mode.
And we do it, right?
Like it happens.
It's not great.
SPEAKER_05 (24:46):
It's not great to be in the there's usually some,
some, some things in betweenthat blend, I'm sure.
When it goes from there to mommode.
SPEAKER_01 (24:54):
Yeah, yeah.
It's um, you know, I bring acertain energy that is meant for
maybe the boardroom that is notmeant for being a mom, right?
And and it doesn't work.
And so having transitions oreven just, you know, knowing I'm
gonna leave for the weekend on astaycation with my husband,
let's get out of that mode andlet me shut my brain down and go
into this space.
(25:14):
It has been so helpful for forme to intentionally decide who
I'm gonna be in the circumstancethat I'm about to step into.
Not only does it allow me tohave a tremendous amount of
self-agency, but when youapproach it in a way that's not
rigid, you also are much moreadaptable to going with the flow
because it's not gonna go theway that you probably want all
(25:36):
the time, right?
So if I at least intend like,hey, I'm about to move into a
space, and who I need to be isin fun mode and relaxation mode,
and I need to turn thatcontrolling manager part of me
off, and I just want to be inlike fun, you know?
Um, it has been so helpful.
SPEAKER_05 (25:52):
And it allows me to be more present.
Well, yeah, and that's that'sour biggest thing as
entrepreneurs, as as drivenpeople, is we tend to blend
blend the spaces, the blend thepeople that we are.
So we we end up doing personalstuff when we're at work, doing
work stuff when we're doingpersonal stuff.
You know what I mean?
(26:12):
So, you know, a lot of timesit's really hard.
It's hard.
It's and it to me, it's a workin progress.
It is constant.
I mean, I don't care who youare, we're human.
You we know what we're supposedto do, but it doesn't mean that
it always goes perfectly likethat.
But part of the whole thing isbeing aware of it, right?
If you're aware of it, you canat least do a better job at it.
SPEAKER_01 (26:34):
You know, well, you know, I think there's only one
thing you really need to beaware of that then you go, I
need to take a pause and reallylisten for the deeper
self-awareness is friction.
It's like the goal is flow.
And if it's not flowing, there'sfriction.
And if there's if I'm feelingany kind of friction, it's
because something's not inalignment.
And most of the time I havecontrol over that.
Sometimes it's just no.
(26:55):
And maybe you do have to pushthrough, but I really don't like
to be in any kind of likepush-through energy.
Um, and so even just stylingyour energy when it comes to
like the workday, there arecertain things that require the
creative part of me to lead.
But if I don't know that when Isit down, let's say to write
content for marketing, thatneeds to come from the creative
part of me, not the manager partof me.
(27:16):
If you don't set that intention,you will go in there managing
it, and then you end up havingcontent or creating something
that's really not that magnetic.
It's it could be great, but it'sit's not gonna be as magnetic
when I come from the creativepart of me.
SPEAKER_05 (27:29):
Totally understand.
I I used to write music.
I was a musician too.
I should say, I'm still amusician, yeah.
I sang for many years.
Still sing here and there.
Um, but yeah, I agree with you.
When I used to write music, youyou you can't go into writing
music of I'm gonna write music.
It's gotta be, it has to comethrough you.
It has to come through you andand be a very um uh hard to say,
(27:51):
like a rat relaxed thing.
It shouldn't be forced.
And when you're forcingcreativity, it's not creativity.
SPEAKER_01 (27:56):
No, it's production.
SPEAKER_05 (27:57):
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, absolutely.
Very good term for that.
So let's go into before we wrapthis up, let's go into highly
sensitive people.
I've never really heard of thatterm or really, I mean, I might
have, but and you're saying 20%of the population set uh and
sensory significance is highlysensitive person.
So HSP is someone who processessensory information, emotions,
(28:18):
social cues more deeply thanmost people.
And you said that you are ahighly sensitive person, is that
right?
SPEAKER_02 (28:24):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (28:25):
So tell me what does that mean?
What does that do for you?
What is it?
What are the setbacks of that?
Or tell me what that all is.
SPEAKER_01 (28:31):
So it's a superpower and it's annoying because you
you feel everything.
And as my husband would say, noteverything's 10 layers deep.
Um this sounds familiar.
You you I I feel it more thanI'm picking up on words.
And that term was not coineduntil like the past 20 years.
(28:51):
It's a relatively new body ofresearch and it is a biological,
neurobiological like differencein that part of the population,
evenly split between men andwomen, so it's not more women
than men, it's even split.
What does it look like?
SPEAKER_05 (29:04):
Like, what do you what how do you feel?
What do you see?
What is different than likesomebody that doesn't have that?
SPEAKER_01 (29:10):
It's like I can tell by my husband's footsteps, let's
say, when he's walking aroundthe house, that like something's
off, or he just had aconfrontational conversation.
And then if you know, if Ilisten, which is for me, it's a
felt sense.
I pick up very deeply onemotional patterns that are
happening within someone, evenwhen they're masking it through
their presence.
(29:31):
And so I can feel the emotionalundercurrents of what's going on
with someone.
Makes me a very fast read andfast study of people.
It's been great for coaching.
Um, and actually, I think whenwe first connected, we I didn't
have resonance house, actually.
SPEAKER_05 (29:46):
No, you didn't, you did not.
It was not, it was something itwas like your Instagram page.
SPEAKER_01 (29:51):
I was doing photo readings.
That's what you were doing.
SPEAKER_05 (29:54):
I totally forgot about that.
SPEAKER_01 (29:56):
Yeah, that's what you're doing.
SPEAKER_05 (29:57):
Photo readings, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (29:59):
So people were.
Did you read my photo?
I did not.
No, you never submitted photos.
SPEAKER_05 (30:03):
Ah, son of a gun.
And you know what's funny?
We were I was supposed to dothat.
I totally forgot that that'swhat that was what you were
doing.
SPEAKER_01 (30:10):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (30:11):
So that's actually what attracted me was that.
And then and then also well,what's good about this is then
when you came, when you reachedout again, or I reached out to
you, I saw you all of a sudden Isaw this different thing, and it
was the residence house.
I'm like, oh, that must be whatI really thought was cool.
But it was I remember thepicture readings, yes.
SPEAKER_01 (30:28):
Well, the energy reads are on residence house, so
people can find those there.
But it's it's me picking up onyour so you send me five photos.
I'm we're not live, I pull themup on my screen, and I'm able to
I turn my camera on like this,and I just flow for about 25
minutes based on what I'mfeeling, what I'm seeing,
untapped potential, somechallenges that might be going
on.
So some people might liken it tointuitive reads, but frankly,
(30:50):
it's just me leveraging mysensitivity.
I just I pick up on everything.
Um I've done hundreds of them.
I've had a lot of them, and it'sbeen really great for people to
just feel seen.
You know, just like a lot oftimes the power of just feeling
seen and having someonearticulate your emotions back to
you when you can't put words tothem.
And that's kind of the sweetspot that I've landed in.
(31:11):
So again, with sensitivity, youknow, for a long time, as most
sensitive people, they thinkit's a bad thing because it's
just it's so much.
You I mean, like a day liketoday, we're recording on
September 11th.
There were a lot of things thathappened yesterday.
You know, it's it's a it's aheavy day.
Yeah, it's a really heavy day.
And um collectively, you know,sensitive people tend to absorb
(31:31):
a lot.
And so and the nice thing aboutsomething like Resonance House
is you start to come intocontrol of your energy instead
of letting it get hijacked byeverything that's going on
around you.
And that's a really big umchallenge for highly sensitive
people is not letting theirmoods and their emotions hijack
them.
SPEAKER_05 (31:47):
Yeah, wow, interesting.
That's very, very cool.
No, I it's it's uh reallyinteresting stuff.
And and so next time, are yougonna have something else that
I'm gonna have to like uh learnor do?
Or I mean you're constantlychanging things.
SPEAKER_01 (32:01):
No, I mean, I hope not.
This is it.
This was a two and a half yearhiatus to reinvent.
Now I'm I'm digging my heels inon resmond's house.
SPEAKER_05 (32:08):
Well, and thank goodness I'm not looking out on
Instagram trying to find thegirl that was reading pictures.
I mean it's so funny because Itotally remember going, oh, this
will be kind of cool.
I'll send her my picture beforethe show and she'll uh read it,
and then I'll be like yelling ather, telling her she's wrong,
and yeah.
No, I would never do that.
But no, I I really appreciateyou coming on the show today.
(32:29):
Um what what a great time.
You are easy.
You're not only you're eatyou're good at reading people,
you're but you're also easy totalk to.
Very easy to talk to.
And I can see why Sylvie and youwere uh in partners together in
a business because you're youboth are wonderful people.
Really cool people.
Is there anything else that youwant to say?
Um how do we find you?
SPEAKER_01 (32:51):
But find me over at uh resonance-house.com, and then
I'm Shauna Van Bogart across toeverything, but predominantly
Instagram.
I am over on Substack as well.
That's a newer thing.
SPEAKER_05 (33:01):
Awesome, awesome.
So great.
I it's great to see you.
Thanks for being on the show.
I'm sure we'll have you backagain sometime.
Pretty sure about that.
Alrighty, take care.
SPEAKER_00 (33:09):
Bye.
SPEAKER_05 (33:09):
Bye.
All right, oh my god, greatshow.
What do you think, Hugo?
SPEAKER_00 (33:14):
I saw, I saw.
Pretty amazing, pretty amazing.
SPEAKER_05 (33:17):
Shauna Van Bogart.
Van Bogart, she's fromCharleston, South Carolina.
You want to check her out.
Uh Residence House.
Just look up Residence House.
I know it's in there.
It's on Instagram.
She's got a website.
There's so much good stuffthere.
Um, thanks for listening againevery Thursday, 7 p.m.
We'll see you next week.
All right.
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