August 16, 2023 • 37 mins
Curiously enough, the journey to success isn't always linear, but rather a beautiful blend of passions woven together by a powerful sense of purpose. This couldn't ring truer for Jessica Hoch, founder of Moxie Mala's, an extraordinary multi-six figure jewelry company. What started as a love for yoga and apparel design has grown into a thriving business that resonates with those who value intentionality in their adornments. Jessica's story is illuminated by her commitment to create meaningful products that embody her tagline, "peacefully untamed".
There's something undeniably powerful about authenticity and curiosity in the path of entrepreneurship. Jessica Hoch’s journey is a testament to this. Connecting the dots of her diverse career, she listened to her intuition, felt good about her decisions, and observed the world around her. This curiosity sparked new paths, workshops, and even the discovery of her signature style. Her struggle to connect her inner and outer selves through clothing is one that many of us can relate to, and it's a conversation not to be missed.
As we chat with Jessica, we uncover her thoughts on expanding the Moxie Mala's product line to include shirts, journals, and subscription-based home decor pieces. It's not just business for Jessica, her spiritual practice informs her decisions and guides her actions. She's even created an exclusive bracelet for the Business Psychic, a beautiful union of spirituality and entrepreneurship. As we end this inspiring conversation, let's not forget the affirmation from the universe that the coming months are going to be her best in business. Fascinating, isn't it? Jessica's journey truly affirms that authenticity, curiosity, and a strong sense of purpose can indeed pave the way to success.
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Amber Annette (00:02):
Welcome to the Business Psychic Podcast, the
show that helps you ignite yoursoul's purpose, turn up your
creativity and activate salesand marketing magic.
I'm your host, Amber Annette,and I'm thrilled to be here with
you today to explore the depthof what it means to be a woman
in business.
I believe that business is morethan just making money.
It's about making a differenceand making your mark.
(00:24):
So sit back, get present andlet's dive in and uncover the
secrets to building a businesswith soul, purpose and magic.
Welcome back to another episodeof the Business Psychic.
This is Amber Annette, I'm yourhost, and today I am beyond
thrilled to bring to you JessicaHoek, the owner and visionary
(00:47):
behind Moxie Mala's.
She has seamlessly merged herpassions for yoga and apparel
design.
With over 13 years ofexperience as a yoga teacher and
armed with a degree in appareldesign, Jessica found the
perfect blend of these twoworlds through Moxie Mala's.
What began as heartfelt giftsfor loved ones quickly evolved
into a remarkable collection ofpurposeful jewelry.
(01:09):
Each piece is thoughtfullycrafted to serve as a meaningful
adornment, intentionallyreflecting the wearer's unique
journey.
Moxie Mala's embodies Jessica'scommitment to creating jewelry
that beautifully resonates withthose seeking intentionality in
what they wear.
Jessica, the founder of MoxieMala's.
(01:30):
I'm so excited and so honoredto have you on the Business
Psychic.
Jessica Hoch (01:36):
Hey, I'm so excited to be here.
Thank you for having me.
I was so excited when I got theinvite.
Amber Annette (01:41):
Of course, to be fair.
So not only has Jessica becomejust a phenomenal friend over
the last few years, but she isalso, for sure, one of my
favorite clients.
I am just obsessed with hercompany and her mission.
I'm so excited to bring her toyou today.
Walk us through this, though.
Take us back to the beginningof your journey.
(02:02):
I mean, you think about you.
Started as an apparel design,went to school for that, went
down the path of a spiritualawakening, got into yoga, became
a yoga teacher, now on tocreating a multi-six figure
Moxie Mala bracelet and jewelrycompany.
I mean, it's just such aphenomenal story.
(02:23):
So take us through that alittle bit.
How did you get here?
Jessica Hoch (02:27):
Yeah, it's interesting when you bring it
all the way back to the appareldesign aspect of it, I'll say
that's bringing it way back.
So I actually studied abroad inLondon and Paris and then I
ended up going out to New YorkCity for a career fair and I got
there and thought, oh no, Idon't want this.
I didn't want the rush and therat race and the go go go After
(02:51):
all that studying, but I stilllove creating right.
So I came back and I ended upgetting into yoga and finding
yoga kind of by accident andinstantly fell in love, and so
much so that I started a yogabusiness and I had a yoga
business and then my two sonswere born and the yoga business
and children didn't quite mix,and so after that, honestly, I
(03:16):
felt a little bit lost because Ihad really put myself, like my
identity was wrapped into thatyoga business.
And when I closed it it waslike, oh no, now what?
And I was feeling a little lostand I ended up selling bags for
an MLM company and I totallyfound my voice again and was
like oh my gosh, look at this.
(03:37):
And what I loved about thestructure of that was how it
brought people together.
I'm like look at all thesegroups of people coming together
and creating community andtalking and being in groups.
And then I thought, oh, how do Ido this in a meaningful well,
not that it wasn't meaningful,but in a way that resonates with
my own spiritual path and Istarted making.
(04:00):
I had already started makingjewelry, like you said, as the
gifts for people, and then I hadsomebody say will you make me
one?
I'll pay you for it?
And I was like, wait a minute,people want these, you know,
beyond my gifting.
And yeah, and so Moxie Malaswas born and I started creating
the jewelry.
(04:20):
And the reason why I did it itwas funny because I told my
husband about it, right, I saidI'm gonna make jewelry and he
was like, oh Lord, now what I'mbare with me.
I said I'm gonna make jewelryas a vehicle for a broader
message, Like I was findingpeople weren't coming to yoga
because they're intimidated orthey had other reasons and but
(04:41):
they were missing so much of theself-exploration, the healing,
the empowerment, the findingtheir authenticity, like you
said, and I wanted the jewelryto be a vehicle for that message
.
That was very approachable.
Amber Annette (04:53):
And you have done that.
I mean how so?
How many years ago?
Like how old is Moxie Malas?
Jessica Hoch (05:00):
now it's so funny you said should ask that because
today Moxie is eight years old.
Oh seriously, yeah, today is mybusiness birthday.
Amber Annette (05:09):
Congratulations and happy business birthday.
That's amazing.
Eight years and you, I mean,like how many thousands of
different pieces of jewelry andbracelets.
I mean just what an incrediblestory and such.
And doing what you love andloving what you do I mean that's
what it's all about, for sure.
So where did you come up withthe name?
(05:31):
I'm curious.
I always love to hear wherepeople's creative fires come
from.
Where did you come up with thename?
Moxie Malas?
Jessica Hoch (05:37):
I wanted something that was really fun, right?
So when we come down this pathof self discovery, of internal
inquiry, this kind of thing,people think it's really you're
achieving peace and tranquilityand calmness.
And I want to say you know, mytagline is peacefully untamed.
It's like you can be peacefuland find all that calm and still
(05:59):
have Moxie and have fun and beplayful and be clever and be,
have perseverance and and justsort of this like playfulness.
And Moxie was really that wordof.
What I really looked up wasperseverance in thesaurus and
Moxie came up and I was like, oh, perfect, it's playful, it's
meaningful and it embodiesexactly what I want people to
(06:20):
feel.
Amber Annette (06:21):
And I just want to say, knowing you like you
embody your business mission andthe name of your business.
You really do I'm, and so ifyou guys, you haven't seen a
picture of Jessica, but she'sabsolutely stunning and she's
got these like super cool fullsleeve tats and I can't believe
you don't have a Moxie tattooyet.
You really, you're so cute.
Jessica Hoch (06:39):
You do.
Amber Annette (06:40):
I'm not putting my logos right here, I didn't
even know, Okay, so maybe, yeah,I didn't even realize you
actually had a, had your logotattoo.
That's amazing, I love it.
Surprise.
So you know, I heard you whenyou were talking about.
You know you're going to yourhusband and saying, okay, I have
an idea, I think I want to dothis thing.
(07:00):
You know, it really stirred upin me entrepreneurial spirit,
and I mean some of us just haveit.
I mean like it's just like it'sin us.
We're always thinking about itor we're on to the next idea.
We just have that.
And I want to talk to ouraudience here a little bit about
that entrepreneurial path, andnot just even the path, but all
(07:22):
of the different, I'm going tosay, like pivots and points
along the way.
One of my most favorite YouTubevideos is of Steve Jobs and he's
giving the commencement speechand I believe it's at Harvard I
don't even know how many yearsago now, 15 years ago maybe and
(07:44):
in this commencement that he isgiving, he talks about these
different points in his lifethat he wasn't sure why there
was an entrepreneurial callingor why it was like calling to
him, but he just knew he had tohonor it, and so one of the
things that he did was he?
Everybody was telling him totake all these like mathematics
(08:05):
classes and college and allthese like science, and he felt
called to take calligraphy andeverybody was like that's the
stupidest class you could take.
Why would you ever takecalligraphy, right?
But yet something was tellinghim take calligraphy, and so he
took the calligraphy class.
Well now, as you can imaginehow many years later, anybody
who operates and interacts withany type of Apple product is
(08:29):
interacting with his calligraphyclass, because he went on to
use that as part of his company.
And why I'm bringing that up andwhy that story always sticks
with me, is because there'sthese, so many, these connecting
the dots.
There's these dots along theway that we're always collecting
, I think.
For myself, I learned how to dosales, I learned how to do
marketing and then, all of asudden, you start combining them
(08:51):
and that that's what you'vedone here.
So how did you start connectingall of these dots and pull them
together into this?
Jessica Hoch (08:59):
company.
It's really interesting becausethose dots aren't necessarily
like.
I wasn't looking for them.
The dots show up and thenyou're like, oh okay, it's
almost like listening.
I do a lot of my business basedon my intuition, based on how I
(09:20):
feel as a manifestor.
I have to feel good and has tofeel right, and I'm also always
listening, like what's going on,I'm observing and kind of have
a finger on the pulse, kind ofthing.
So I started the business and Istarted making jewelry.
I had no idea what I was doing,by the way, but when it comes to
making jewelry, literally Ibought a bea box with $60 of
(09:43):
beads and was like I think I'mgonna do jewelry.
That's why my husband was likeoh Lord and so.
But then I started and like,for example, that one person who
said you know, will you make meone?
I'll pay for it.
It wasn't a thought, but thatbecame a dot.
It was like, oh, okay, I'mgonna go in this direction.
And then I thought is this thepath?
(10:04):
I don't know.
And literally that same day,within the hour, I get a message
from somebody saying I bought amala from you.
It's changed my life.
I've started meditating everysingle day off my anxiety meds,
you know.
And it was just like okay, thisis, it is the message, it is
working.
It's not just jewelry that I'mmaking.
Amber Annette (10:22):
That's evidence.
Jessica Hoch (10:23):
Yeah, and I needed that evidence to like, okay,
for sure, this is the right path.
And then with the workshops,the Moxie malas Bracelet
Workshop, I had no intention ofcreating a workshop and someone
asked me hey, all thisinformation and knowledge you
have, you know, do you have aworkshop that you could teach,
like for my community?
Here's another pivot point, youknow.
And so just connecting thesedots and following the dots,
(10:45):
following the pivots, and yeah,it's just been really
interesting to be open todifferent avenues on that path.
You know, rather than beinglike this is what it's gonna
look, like this is how I'm gonnaget there, xyz, here we go.
It's like, okay, I'm gonnastart and see how this goes and
then and then go from there.
Yeah, I'm still, and I lovethat.
Amber Annette (11:07):
I love that.
What you're really saying isyou got curious.
One of the things that you'veprobably heard me say is
curiosities often lead tocallings.
It's been those times thatthere's just that tiny little
entrepreneurial itch, or there'sthat tiny little intuitive
nudge, or there's that littlecuriosity of, hmm, I just wonder
(11:30):
and letting the wonder of the,letting it build and exploring
it, and gosh, it can just leadyou down A the same path, but a
happier, more fulfilled path, orB onto paths that you didn't
even know existed, that can leadyou to so much more.
I mean more fulfillment, morehappiness, more money, more
(11:53):
clients more love joy, whateverit is that is you're seeking.
But I think sometimes peoplethink that their calling is
gonna be this like big, boomingvoice from God, or like you're
just supposed to know what yoursole purpose is.
Like there's, it's just put onsuch a pedestal it really is,
and yet it's these subtlecallings, it's those little
(12:17):
unknowns, but the ones that makeyou wonder, that are always, in
my opinion and in my experienceand in my intuition, are
leading you to your next pointof purpose.
Jessica Hoch (12:27):
I love that and also tying it into curiosity and
naming it.
I think that's amazing.
It makes me think of when Ivery first started my yoga
journey.
I was on a treadmill.
I was a marathon runner, I wasa soccer player.
And I'm running on thistreadmill and like just dying,
and I'm looking down at LAFitness, looking down at the
(12:48):
place where they're doing yoga.
I'm like what is this?
And it was a curiosity.
I was like I just kept hearingthis.
You should try that.
You should try that.
Just go see what it is.
Just go in there.
I'm not cause.
I'm like why are they turningthe lights off?
What are they doing in there?
And then I went in and my firstclass, I lay down and I just
started crying after what theteacher said and I'm like, oh,
(13:09):
this is something.
And that launched the, theyogic path, the path of
introspection, discovery.
And then here we are.
Amber Annette (13:20):
It makes me like really pissed off at whoever
said curiosity killed the catLike that person like the second
.
Jessica Hoch (13:28):
You said it.
I was like, of course, theysaid that.
Amber Annette (13:31):
That was nothing more than somebody like creating
a statement based off of fear.
Yeah, so I think no, curiositydid not kill the cat.
That is not true at all.
Curiosity created entrepreneursis what it does.
Jessica Hoch (13:47):
It creates Curiosity, creates worlds.
Amber Annette (13:50):
Yes, yes, Universes, even yes, yeah.
The other thing is that Ireally wanted to make sure I
touched on here, and it's alsothis is now the second time I've
done a podcast where I'm like Ineed to have a visual side of
this podcast as well, wherepeople can see the video, not
just the audio, because ifpeople could see you like you
(14:11):
are just one of the coolestchecks I've ever met you like
seriously.
You're so like stunning andyou're a tattoo and everything
about you like is so real, rawand authentic.
Just that's the way that I seeyou.
I always have seen you since Ifirst met you and connected with
you.
So I'm just curious, likeliving from this place of like
(14:31):
true authenticity, have youalways been this way or did you
become this way?
Jessica Hoch (14:38):
I would say that it you okay.
There was one specific thingthat happened to me in seventh
grade, so that, just because ofwhat you're talking about, I'm
hearing and feeling this story.
So I had gone shopping for backto school clothes and I bought
this shirt.
It was a red t-shirt.
It had a denim, hot patchworkheart on it and I was like I
think other people would likethis.
I don't really like it, but Ireally hope other people will
(15:01):
think oh, that's a cool shirt,right?
So I'm all beaming like peopleare gonna love this shirt, right
.
I put it on.
I go to school first thing.
I'm talking like a minute ofwalking into school, someone
walks up and goes that's a dumbshirt.
I mean, you know, middle schoolgirls, yeah, great, thanks, you
know.
Amber Annette (15:20):
Worst day of your life.
Jessica Hoch (15:22):
Well, no, I mean it literally was this huge
opening to my eyes at such ayoung age.
I was like, you know, I didn'teven like this shirt, you know,
I'm not even gonna wear it.
And I was like you know what?
That's the last time I wearsomething for somebody else, and
how does that translate in therest of my life?
That's the last time I dosomething for somebody else, you
know, I mean in that way, likefor somebody else's external
(15:44):
validation, and so it was like,but it's, I won't say that.
It's like oh yeah, I amauthentically me, no matter what
.
There are times where you'relike, oh, am I enough or am I
too much?
Or, you know, there's all thosethoughts that run through your
mind.
So it is an ongoing practice of, I would say, self-awareness
and self-compassion, you know.
Amber Annette (16:06):
I don't know why, but I want to talk for a second
and we didn't talk about thisbeforehand.
So I really struggle withapparel.
Like I really struggle withlike what to wear.
I feel like I change so muchall the time that I don't have
like a signature style I feellike I never know anything about
(16:29):
, like I'm not a trendy dresserby any means.
Jessica Hoch (16:33):
I how?
Amber Annette (16:35):
how does apparel and clothing and your jewelry,
like, how does that help youconnect, like the inner pieces
of you to that outer piece ofyou?
I mean I am super connect, Imean you know this right.
Like I am super connected onthe inside of who I am, where
(16:57):
I'm going, my connection to theuniverse, and yet outside visual
representation of me.
Sometimes I'm like like I'msitting here looking at like my
ripped jeans and my like satinshirt and I'm like this outfit
probably does not.
What is this?
Jessica Hoch (17:12):
So how do?
Amber Annette (17:13):
you like what is the go back?
Let's like, let's go into thisa little bit, Like how can you
have the out you?
Because I think maybe that whatI'm really saying here is I
think you do such a phenomenaljob of the outside of you the,
the clothes you wear, thejewelry, where it just is like a
(17:33):
representation of your soul.
I really believe that when Isee you, how do you do that?
I want to do that.
How do you do that?
Jessica Hoch (17:41):
I think about seventh grade and think I'll
never dress for someone elseagain.
No, I think what it is, youknow, I've thought about that
too, actually the wholesignature style and like how do
people know that this is me, youknow?
Or my look, my style, and I amvery I say I'm very multifaceted
(18:02):
, right?
So there are times where I'mgoing to be in flowy linen pants
, with a, with a shawl over meand look look like a goddess
Right.
And then there's times where,like, I'm on my bike, I'm on my
motorcycle today and I look likea biker bitch, you know, and it
just is amazing.
I think what it is is like Ijust I dress for my mood.
(18:25):
You know the people talk about,oh, I got to put my outfit out
the night before.
I'm like there's no way, whatam I?
I will wake up.
I'm not gonna feel like wearingthat.
Amber Annette (18:33):
Okay, I can't hold this back anymore.
I kind of brought this up for areason, and usually towards
them, towards the end of theshow is when I start doing this.
But you do know it's time forMoxie Mala to start having a
peril right.
Like you don't know, that'scoming.
Jessica Hoch (18:47):
I mean, I didn't know.
Amber Annette (18:49):
Okay, well, just so you know that's coming.
I see I'm dead.
So, tapping in here, I'm seeinglike a chakra clothing line
which is super freaking cool.
So that's next that's coming,and it feels like like not that
the jewelry is like a part ofthe shirt, right, but like a
signature piece of jewelry goeswith the shirt, and it feels
(19:11):
like limited line.
Like you know, there's onlylike limited pieces kind of
thing.
It's not something that'salways in stock, it's exclusive,
it's maybe around Christmas.
So, girl, get going on that I'm,I can see it already and if I
can see something, well then weknow it needs to like be brought
to the world.
So we'll tap into that a littlebit more here.
When I get to your, when I getto your business reading, for
(19:33):
sure, for sure.
So you know, let's, let's nowbring kind of our listeners to
where you're at now.
So Moxie mall is is rockinbracelets, jewelry.
It's amazing, just the love,the mission of your company.
But your own spiritual journeyhas kind of led to a new
(19:54):
business journey.
Inside of Moxie mall is so kindof share where things are going
right now, because it isfreaking phenomenal and I'm so
excited for our audience to hearabout it.
Jessica Hoch (20:04):
Yeah, I think so.
How my journey has beenevolving is really about, you
know.
You talk about being authenticand really finding my authentic
voice and how to share thismessage of Moxie in a bigger way
and how to get more people onthis Moxie train of personal
empowerment and healing andfinding their own authentic
(20:26):
voice.
And so that's where we came upwith the Moxie mentor program.
So it's really interesting whenI talk about the Moxie bracelet
workshop that we have.
I've had people come into thatworkshop and say I thought I was
making a bracelet.
What the hell just happened?
Because their eyes are open toall these different ideas and
all these possibilities of whathealing can look like for them,
(20:49):
what their journey might looklike, what empowerment would
look like for them, and so Ithought how can we get more, as
many people as possible havingtheir eyes opened to the
possibility of themselves?
And so that's where the myMentor program comes in and
training other people on how tofacilitate a workshop that would
create the sacred container ofself-development.
Amber Annette (21:14):
And so and let's just talk about what your
workshops actually do.
They activate.
They activate an awakening.
You know these women are comingto your workshops thinking
they're making a bracelet andreally what's getting activated
is purpose.
You talk about manifesting, youtalk about healing, you talk
(21:34):
about self-development.
Inside of these workshops it'sso much more than jewelry.
That's just a beautiful pieceof evidence that they were there
in that moment with you andthat locks it in and it
symbolizes that point oftransformation.
But that's what this mentorshipis about.
And so kind of talk a littlebit about how.
(21:55):
So there's just going to be avariety of workshops, or tell us
a little bit about that, whatthese my Mentor workshops are.
Jessica Hoch (22:03):
Yeah, absolutely.
So there are going to be avariety of different workshops,
different focuses on workshops.
There's the one, like thesignature workshop is about, you
know, taking an assessment ofwhere you are and how to
introduce to the energy andcrystals and creating intention
manifestation, that kind ofthing.
And then the other workshopsare going to be more pinpointed
(22:24):
on specific, different topics.
Right, and so the Moxie Mentorsare going to be trained in all
these different workshops andthen they can, in turn, go and
facilitate these workshopsDuring the my Moxie Mentor
training.
The reason why I wanted to dothe Mo Cementor training, versus
just sign people up and theycan go teach, is because there
is so much more to the workshopthan just making a bracelet,
(22:46):
like you were saying.
So I'm talking about how do youfacilitate a transformational
workshop?
How do you hold space fortrauma right, that might come up
.
How do you find your own voiceand create this sacred container
and, at the same time, sharingthe knowledge that's behind all
of the energy work, all of thecrystals.
I mean it's a robust amount ofinformation to walk in and go
(23:10):
hey, we're going to make abracelet, you know, yeah, in
order to facilitate thattransformation.
Amber Annette (23:18):
I love it.
Well, I'm excited for you tobring this new mentorship to the
world.
I'm super excited to supportyou with that and for our
listeners.
I just want to make sure thatyou guys go and check out the
notes section because A there'sgoing to be a link there to a
special gift from Moxie Malas,from Jessica, and just make sure
(23:40):
to go check out the website.
It's moxiemalas.
com and there is just thecoolest jewelry on there, the
best bracelets, and I am superexcited to just say that I have
partnered with Moxie Malas justvery recently and we are making
an exclusive partnership piece.
That I cannot wait.
(24:02):
It's going to be exclusive forjust the business psychic and it
is I kind of want to like teasethem with the name Should.
I tell them.
Should I tell them the name ofit?
Jessica Hoch (24:13):
Yeah, I mean, it's yours.
Amber Annette (24:15):
So it is.
It is the intuition queenbracelet and I'm super excited
to have that exclusive piecewith you, Jessica.
So thank you so much for saying, for just sharing you and your
journey and your insights.
Jessica Hoch (24:33):
And now, in true the business.
Yeah, here we go In true thebusiness psychic fashion.
Amber Annette (24:42):
I am going to just kind of tap in and I feel
like I'm kind of cheating onthis one a little bit, because
I'm connected with you all thetime, we work together all the
time, but I don't always just dobusiness readings when you're a
coaching client of mine.
So this is, this is still gonnalike the apparel thing.
I did not see that coming andall of a sudden I saw this like
full line of these, like supercute shirts that had an
(25:04):
accompanying bracelet, like whywould it not?
Like?
That makes total sense.
I want one, please.
So then I don't have to worryabout just like my apparel for
me.
Please just plan my apparel forme, thank you.
So I'm going to tap in, I'mgoing to do a business reading
and then I have a very importantquestion for you.
So ready, yeah, okay.
So let's, let's tap in here,okay.
(25:30):
So as much as you love thebracelets and the jewelry,
because of the energy and thefrequency of the stones, there
is just so much more in jest,that word moxie that can be
infused into multiple products.
And so not only am I seeingsome shirts, but I'm also
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starting to see a line of whatlooks like journals or some type
of like notebook or some typeof some type of paper product
like that so is.
So you said you hadn't thoughtof the shirts, which now I can.
I'm telling you, it's already aline, it's happening, but have
you ever thought about likejournals or something along
(26:13):
those lines?
Jessica Hoch (26:14):
Well, I have to say thank you for the
confirmation, because I woke upand was half asleep and I keep a
notebook on my nightstand forthis moment and I was like, oh,
just scribble this, I'll read itlater.
I don't even know what I'mwriting and it was like you need
to have a moxie journal and anaccompanying deck.
Amber Annette (26:32):
Wait a minute.
When did that happen?
Like a couple weeks ago.
So confirmation evidence fromthe universe.
It is time to expand thosethings.
Now the other thing and I knowthis might feel a little
overwhelming because you alreadyare building a beautiful, you
know tier of your business withthe moxie mentorship, but I feel
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like signature pieces forpeople's homes.
I feel like Interesting.
It's so important to have theenergy of these rocks and
crystals and plants and thingslike that in our homes.
It raises the frequency, itraises the vibration.
Probably about 10 years ago now, I had my home doused and had
(27:19):
these like energy rods placed incertain places and this was to
raise, like, the frequency ofyour home.
And maybe it did, because eversince then I've done amazing
right.
And how cool would it be if youalso like I almost think of like
you created like a moxie homemap that then came with like a
(27:41):
different crystal to placeinside of a crystal piece to
place inside of the home, right,but the cool part about this is
it could be a subscription,right.
So they get, they get this mapof their entire home and month
one they get I have no idea LikeI'm just going to go with this
like they get a piece ofselenite to place in their
(28:04):
kitchen, for example, or a coollike and not just like a piece
of .
Maybe it's weaved into somethingthat gets put on display, or it
can be put in a plant orsomething right on the
refrigerator, something coollike that.
But then the next month theyget the second piece for the
second place in their home andso they start to build the
energy inside of their home fromyour knowledge and your wisdom,
(28:29):
of your of, from yourcollection.
So there are some really coolthings that like that I see
coming for you that you're likeOkay, here we go again.
Here's that other pivot, andI'm also the universe is is
really telling me it's time foryou to get curious again, and as
(28:51):
much as you are already like init in the business, I feel like
there's some magic missing.
I feel like there's, there'ssome of that curiosity that is
stirring that maybe you've beenignoring.
So I don't know if that matchesfor you either how you've been
feeling lately.
Jessica Hoch (29:08):
And it sure does, and I already know what it's
talking about.
Amber Annette (29:12):
Here we go, another ride, another
entrepreneurial.
Jessica Hoch (29:17):
Yeah, I haven't even touched it.
Yeah.
Amber Annette (29:22):
So, it's okay to be curious, as I like
curiosities often lead tocallings, so that it doesn't
mean that you're not going tohave Moxie.
There's something the universeis asking you to lean into.
Really pay attention to thatGood news.
November and December of thisyear are going to be your best
(29:43):
months in business ever.
So not sure what you gotcooking for us over there, but
it feels like phenomenal numbers.
November and December soexciting that's.
Who doesn't want to hear that?
For their numbers, october theuniverse is showing me something
(30:04):
with October.
I feel like there's going to besome travel in October that's
going to lead to some type ofopportunity.
I would say.
I almost feel like it's goingto lead to a celebrity, like a
well known celebrity, wearingone of your pieces.
That like gives you just likean explosion, thank you.
(30:25):
If you've been toying withTikTok shop, I'm also going to
tell you to hold and pause onthat for just a little bit
longer.
Sure, I would.
I feel like around that sametime, october feels like a
better time for you.
If you've been thinking aboutTikTok shop and I don't know we
haven't talked about that, butthere's there's an opportunity
(30:48):
for TikTok in October to getsome jewelry listed on there and
it feels like it just kind ofgoes gangbusters like viral,
viral, viral.
I'm seeing it Got to wait untilOctober on that one Perfect.
Jessica Hoch (31:03):
Any questions on those?
No, it's all aligning withthings that are in my mind and
Get them into the world.
I know.
Amber Annette (31:11):
You've been thinking it.
The universe gave you the ideafor a reason.
Jessica Hoch (31:13):
Take it and run with it.
Girl, and I love that.
Amber Annette (31:16):
Yes, yeah, I do give a lot of ideas, I know,
yeah, if you're working with me,the ideas kind of come in like
the form of a fire hosesometimes, but that's okay.
Ideas, income, and who doesn'twant that, right, right, okay,
now To wrap it up, my signaturequestion are you ready?
(31:37):
So, for those of you listening,Jessica has not this.
We're still in the early stagesof the podcast year and Jessica
does not know this question.
And if you're a listener andthis is not your first podcast,
you know what I'm going to askher, but she doesn't.
So I'm excited to do thisbecause it's fun when nobody
knows the question, when, when,when my guest doesn't know the
question.
If you could connect to anybodyin spirit and receive a message
(32:05):
from them, who would it be?
Jessica Hoch (32:09):
I could connect to anybody in spirit.
Anybody in spirit Now.
Amber Annette (32:13):
I want to point out that I have connected to
Steve Jobs, I've connected toMarilyn Monroe, even connected
to Michael Jackson for somebody.
I've connected to people's pastloved ones.
So there is no limit on this,on who I can channel and connect
to for you.
Jessica Hoch (32:31):
Oh, oh.
He's like I'm going to ask itright now.
Who would I, who would Iconnect with?
What, if I don't know the name?
Oh well, let's go.
I want to connect to a healedancestor from my lineage, from
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the Rose Clown of Scotland.
Amber Annette (32:55):
So what's interesting is, as soon as you
said that, I got this image oflike a Celtic cross, of this
like weaved, this weaved image,and I don't know if you've ever
seen an image of her, but I getthis long, wavy, strawberry
(33:21):
blonde hair, just like goingdown her back and she has a
gorgeous crown of flowers aroundher head and she is you and you
are her.
Jessica Hoch (33:37):
I like it.
Amber Annette (33:40):
And when you think of the word moxie, I want
you to envision her, because ina time that feels like women
were so oppressed and in a in aworld where they were in, he was
full of moxie and fought withher heart and soul.
(34:01):
Do you know that to be?
Jessica Hoch (34:05):
true of her.
Oh yeah, it feels true, and Ithink that's what I'm talking
about.
Yeah, absolutely.
Amber Annette (34:15):
So she also sends an image to me for you, and I
don't know if you've everconnected to this before, but
she sends the and and I have tobe mindful of this because this
is an image that I receive formyself or something.
But she is sending it to youfor a different, and she's
sending a black crow which tellsme that she, back in that time,
(34:38):
might have been, I'm going tosay, a Celtic witch, which I
don't know that I've ever heardthat term before, or that in
this crow, this black crow, isjust a symbolism of her power
and of her wisdom and of and ofher magic that she had back then
(34:59):
, that she had to keep secret,and you don't have to keep it
secret.
Jessica Hoch (35:02):
I like it.
And if he is me and I am her,understand loud and clear, feel
good.
Yeah, I mean, the black crowsare like a really big thing in
my life, really really big thing.
So oh, we've never talked aboutthat before.
We haven't.
(35:23):
That's why I'm like I'msurprised you know that.
You didn't know that I meanlike I have it.
Amber Annette (35:31):
You have a black crow tattoo.
Are you kidding me?
I have four of them.
You have four black crowtattoos, yeah, no.
Jessica Hoch (35:38):
And a thing that says she is me.
So yeah, I was.
So I had a past life regressiondone a long time ago and she
said that in a past life that Icontrolled the crows and that it
was part of?
Amber Annette (35:52):
Oh my God, I'm covered.
In truth, jessica, we have beenworking.
We have never had thisconversation before.
Jessica Hoch (35:58):
I know I get surprising.
I like it, yeah, and she andyou know, in my sense, when I
was pregnant with my sons andthis has never happened before
since three weeks before theywere born like 300 crows descend
on our neighborhood.
It was so loud that I couldhear it from downstairs and I
went outside and was like, oh mygosh, what is happening?
It's time, you know.
(36:19):
And then each time there was acrow that had like laid down and
died under a tree in our yard,like tucked its beacon and was
done and it's supposed to be asign of like long life and
health and wealth and all that.
So, and it happened three weeksbefore my first son and three
weeks before my second son.
(36:40):
Oh my gosh, that's amazing.
Yeah, it's kind of wild.
People don't believe me when Isay it and I'm like I don't need
you to.
Oh, I believe you.
Amber Annette (36:49):
I believe you have the energy I just pulled
from her.
I believe you like.
She showed me that sign for youloud and clear, and I had no
idea that was such a significantpiece for you.
That's amazing.
Well, now you know where itcomes from.
I love it, I'm about it.
Thank you, jessica.
Thank you so much for being onthe show, thank you so much for
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listening and until next time,go be in your magic and I will
see you on the next episode.
Thanks for listening to thisepisode.
I hope it inspired and ignitedyour entrepreneurial spirit in
terms of your intuition andtrust in the universe.
(37:30):
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soul's purpose.
Until next week, go make somebusiness magic, soul sister.
Welcome to the Business Psychic Podcast, the
show that helps you ignite yoursoul's purpose, turn up your
creativity and activate salesand marketing magic.
I'm your host, Amber Annette,and I'm thrilled to be here with
you today to explore the depthof what it means to be a woman
in business.
I believe that business is morethan just making money.
It's about making a differenceand making your mark.
(00:24):
So sit back, get present andlet's dive in and uncover the
secrets to building a businesswith soul, purpose and magic.
Welcome back to another episodeof the Business Psychic.
This is Amber Annette, I'm yourhost, and today I am beyond
thrilled to bring to you JessicaHoek, the owner and visionary
(00:47):
behind Moxie Mala's.
She has seamlessly merged herpassions for yoga and apparel
design.
With over 13 years ofexperience as a yoga teacher and
armed with a degree in appareldesign, Jessica found the
perfect blend of these twoworlds through Moxie Mala's.
What began as heartfelt giftsfor loved ones quickly evolved
into a remarkable collection ofpurposeful jewelry.
(01:09):
Each piece is thoughtfullycrafted to serve as a meaningful
adornment, intentionallyreflecting the wearer's unique
journey.
Moxie Mala's embodies Jessica'scommitment to creating jewelry
that beautifully resonates withthose seeking intentionality in
what they wear.
Jessica, the founder of MoxieMala's.
(01:30):
I'm so excited and so honoredto have you on the Business
Psychic.
Jessica Hoch (01:36):
Hey, I'm so excited to be here.
Thank you for having me.
I was so excited when I got theinvite.
Amber Annette (01:41):
Of course, to be fair.
So not only has Jessica becomejust a phenomenal friend over
the last few years, but she isalso, for sure, one of my
favorite clients.
I am just obsessed with hercompany and her mission.
I'm so excited to bring her toyou today.
Walk us through this, though.
Take us back to the beginningof your journey.
(02:02):
I mean, you think about you.
Started as an apparel design,went to school for that, went
down the path of a spiritualawakening, got into yoga, became
a yoga teacher, now on tocreating a multi-six figure
Moxie Mala bracelet and jewelrycompany.
I mean, it's just such aphenomenal story.
(02:23):
So take us through that alittle bit.
How did you get here?
Jessica Hoch (02:27):
Yeah, it's interesting when you bring it
all the way back to the appareldesign aspect of it, I'll say
that's bringing it way back.
So I actually studied abroad inLondon and Paris and then I
ended up going out to New YorkCity for a career fair and I got
there and thought, oh no, Idon't want this.
I didn't want the rush and therat race and the go go go After
(02:51):
all that studying, but I stilllove creating right.
So I came back and I ended upgetting into yoga and finding
yoga kind of by accident andinstantly fell in love, and so
much so that I started a yogabusiness and I had a yoga
business and then my two sonswere born and the yoga business
and children didn't quite mix,and so after that, honestly, I
(03:16):
felt a little bit lost because Ihad really put myself, like my
identity was wrapped into thatyoga business.
And when I closed it it waslike, oh no, now what?
And I was feeling a little lostand I ended up selling bags for
an MLM company and I totallyfound my voice again and was
like oh my gosh, look at this.
(03:37):
And what I loved about thestructure of that was how it
brought people together.
I'm like look at all thesegroups of people coming together
and creating community andtalking and being in groups.
And then I thought, oh, how do Ido this in a meaningful well,
not that it wasn't meaningful,but in a way that resonates with
my own spiritual path and Istarted making.
(04:00):
I had already started makingjewelry, like you said, as the
gifts for people, and then I hadsomebody say will you make me
one?
I'll pay you for it?
And I was like, wait a minute,people want these, you know,
beyond my gifting.
And yeah, and so Moxie Malaswas born and I started creating
the jewelry.
(04:20):
And the reason why I did it itwas funny because I told my
husband about it, right, I saidI'm gonna make jewelry and he
was like, oh Lord, now what I'mbare with me.
I said I'm gonna make jewelryas a vehicle for a broader
message, Like I was findingpeople weren't coming to yoga
because they're intimidated orthey had other reasons and but
(04:41):
they were missing so much of theself-exploration, the healing,
the empowerment, the findingtheir authenticity, like you
said, and I wanted the jewelryto be a vehicle for that message
.
That was very approachable.
Amber Annette (04:53):
And you have done that.
I mean how so?
How many years ago?
Like how old is Moxie Malas?
Jessica Hoch (05:00):
now it's so funny you said should ask that because
today Moxie is eight years old.
Oh seriously, yeah, today is mybusiness birthday.
Amber Annette (05:09):
Congratulations and happy business birthday.
That's amazing.
Eight years and you, I mean,like how many thousands of
different pieces of jewelry andbracelets.
I mean just what an incrediblestory and such.
And doing what you love andloving what you do I mean that's
what it's all about, for sure.
So where did you come up withthe name?
(05:31):
I'm curious.
I always love to hear wherepeople's creative fires come
from.
Where did you come up with thename?
Moxie Malas?
Jessica Hoch (05:37):
I wanted something that was really fun, right?
So when we come down this pathof self discovery, of internal
inquiry, this kind of thing,people think it's really you're
achieving peace and tranquilityand calmness.
And I want to say you know, mytagline is peacefully untamed.
It's like you can be peacefuland find all that calm and still
(05:59):
have Moxie and have fun and beplayful and be clever and be,
have perseverance and and justsort of this like playfulness.
And Moxie was really that wordof.
What I really looked up wasperseverance in thesaurus and
Moxie came up and I was like, oh, perfect, it's playful, it's
meaningful and it embodiesexactly what I want people to
(06:20):
feel.
Amber Annette (06:21):
And I just want to say, knowing you like you
embody your business mission andthe name of your business.
You really do I'm, and so ifyou guys, you haven't seen a
picture of Jessica, but she'sabsolutely stunning and she's
got these like super cool fullsleeve tats and I can't believe
you don't have a Moxie tattooyet.
You really, you're so cute.
Jessica Hoch (06:39):
You do.
Amber Annette (06:40):
I'm not putting my logos right here, I didn't
even know, Okay, so maybe, yeah,I didn't even realize you
actually had a, had your logotattoo.
That's amazing, I love it.
Surprise.
So you know, I heard you whenyou were talking about.
You know you're going to yourhusband and saying, okay, I have
an idea, I think I want to dothis thing.
(07:00):
You know, it really stirred upin me entrepreneurial spirit,
and I mean some of us just haveit.
I mean like it's just like it'sin us.
We're always thinking about itor we're on to the next idea.
We just have that.
And I want to talk to ouraudience here a little bit about
that entrepreneurial path, andnot just even the path, but all
(07:22):
of the different, I'm going tosay, like pivots and points
along the way.
One of my most favorite YouTubevideos is of Steve Jobs and he's
giving the commencement speechand I believe it's at Harvard I
don't even know how many yearsago now, 15 years ago maybe and
(07:44):
in this commencement that he isgiving, he talks about these
different points in his lifethat he wasn't sure why there
was an entrepreneurial callingor why it was like calling to
him, but he just knew he had tohonor it, and so one of the
things that he did was he?
Everybody was telling him totake all these like mathematics
(08:05):
classes and college and allthese like science, and he felt
called to take calligraphy andeverybody was like that's the
stupidest class you could take.
Why would you ever takecalligraphy, right?
But yet something was tellinghim take calligraphy, and so he
took the calligraphy class.
Well now, as you can imaginehow many years later, anybody
who operates and interacts withany type of Apple product is
(08:29):
interacting with his calligraphyclass, because he went on to
use that as part of his company.
And why I'm bringing that up andwhy that story always sticks
with me, is because there'sthese, so many, these connecting
the dots.
There's these dots along theway that we're always collecting
, I think.
For myself, I learned how to dosales, I learned how to do
marketing and then, all of asudden, you start combining them
(08:51):
and that that's what you'vedone here.
So how did you start connectingall of these dots and pull them
together into this?
Jessica Hoch (08:59):
company.
It's really interesting becausethose dots aren't necessarily
like.
I wasn't looking for them.
The dots show up and thenyou're like, oh okay, it's
almost like listening.
I do a lot of my business basedon my intuition, based on how I
(09:20):
feel as a manifestor.
I have to feel good and has tofeel right, and I'm also always
listening, like what's going on,I'm observing and kind of have
a finger on the pulse, kind ofthing.
So I started the business and Istarted making jewelry.
I had no idea what I was doing,by the way, but when it comes to
making jewelry, literally Ibought a bea box with $60 of
(09:43):
beads and was like I think I'mgonna do jewelry.
That's why my husband was likeoh Lord and so.
But then I started and like,for example, that one person who
said you know, will you make meone?
I'll pay for it.
It wasn't a thought, but thatbecame a dot.
It was like, oh, okay, I'mgonna go in this direction.
And then I thought is this thepath?
(10:04):
I don't know.
And literally that same day,within the hour, I get a message
from somebody saying I bought amala from you.
It's changed my life.
I've started meditating everysingle day off my anxiety meds,
you know.
And it was just like okay, thisis, it is the message, it is
working.
It's not just jewelry that I'mmaking.
Amber Annette (10:22):
That's evidence.
Jessica Hoch (10:23):
Yeah, and I needed that evidence to like, okay,
for sure, this is the right path.
And then with the workshops,the Moxie malas Bracelet
Workshop, I had no intention ofcreating a workshop and someone
asked me hey, all thisinformation and knowledge you
have, you know, do you have aworkshop that you could teach,
like for my community?
Here's another pivot point, youknow.
And so just connecting thesedots and following the dots,
(10:45):
following the pivots, and yeah,it's just been really
interesting to be open todifferent avenues on that path.
You know, rather than beinglike this is what it's gonna
look, like this is how I'm gonnaget there, xyz, here we go.
It's like, okay, I'm gonnastart and see how this goes and
then and then go from there.
Yeah, I'm still, and I lovethat.
Amber Annette (11:07):
I love that.
What you're really saying isyou got curious.
One of the things that you'veprobably heard me say is
curiosities often lead tocallings.
It's been those times thatthere's just that tiny little
entrepreneurial itch, or there'sthat tiny little intuitive
nudge, or there's that littlecuriosity of, hmm, I just wonder
(11:30):
and letting the wonder of the,letting it build and exploring
it, and gosh, it can just leadyou down A the same path, but a
happier, more fulfilled path, orB onto paths that you didn't
even know existed, that can leadyou to so much more.
I mean more fulfillment, morehappiness, more money, more
(11:53):
clients more love joy, whateverit is that is you're seeking.
But I think sometimes peoplethink that their calling is
gonna be this like big, boomingvoice from God, or like you're
just supposed to know what yoursole purpose is.
Like there's, it's just put onsuch a pedestal it really is,
and yet it's these subtlecallings, it's those little
(12:17):
unknowns, but the ones that makeyou wonder, that are always, in
my opinion and in my experienceand in my intuition, are
leading you to your next pointof purpose.
Jessica Hoch (12:27):
I love that and also tying it into curiosity and
naming it.
I think that's amazing.
It makes me think of when Ivery first started my yoga
journey.
I was on a treadmill.
I was a marathon runner, I wasa soccer player.
And I'm running on thistreadmill and like just dying,
and I'm looking down at LAFitness, looking down at the
(12:48):
place where they're doing yoga.
I'm like what is this?
And it was a curiosity.
I was like I just kept hearingthis.
You should try that.
You should try that.
Just go see what it is.
Just go in there.
I'm not cause.
I'm like why are they turningthe lights off?
What are they doing in there?
And then I went in and my firstclass, I lay down and I just
started crying after what theteacher said and I'm like, oh,
(13:09):
this is something.
And that launched the, theyogic path, the path of
introspection, discovery.
And then here we are.
Amber Annette (13:20):
It makes me like really pissed off at whoever
said curiosity killed the catLike that person like the second
.
Jessica Hoch (13:28):
You said it.
I was like, of course, theysaid that.
Amber Annette (13:31):
That was nothing more than somebody like creating
a statement based off of fear.
Yeah, so I think no, curiositydid not kill the cat.
That is not true at all.
Curiosity created entrepreneursis what it does.
Jessica Hoch (13:47):
It creates Curiosity, creates worlds.
Amber Annette (13:50):
Yes, yes, Universes, even yes, yeah.
The other thing is that Ireally wanted to make sure I
touched on here, and it's alsothis is now the second time I've
done a podcast where I'm like Ineed to have a visual side of
this podcast as well, wherepeople can see the video, not
just the audio, because ifpeople could see you like you
(14:11):
are just one of the coolestchecks I've ever met you like
seriously.
You're so like stunning andyou're a tattoo and everything
about you like is so real, rawand authentic.
Just that's the way that I seeyou.
I always have seen you since Ifirst met you and connected with
you.
So I'm just curious, likeliving from this place of like
(14:31):
true authenticity, have youalways been this way or did you
become this way?
Jessica Hoch (14:38):
I would say that it you okay.
There was one specific thingthat happened to me in seventh
grade, so that, just because ofwhat you're talking about, I'm
hearing and feeling this story.
So I had gone shopping for backto school clothes and I bought
this shirt.
It was a red t-shirt.
It had a denim, hot patchworkheart on it and I was like I
think other people would likethis.
I don't really like it, but Ireally hope other people will
(15:01):
think oh, that's a cool shirt,right?
So I'm all beaming like peopleare gonna love this shirt, right
.
I put it on.
I go to school first thing.
I'm talking like a minute ofwalking into school, someone
walks up and goes that's a dumbshirt.
I mean, you know, middle schoolgirls, yeah, great, thanks, you
know.
Amber Annette (15:20):
Worst day of your life.
Jessica Hoch (15:22):
Well, no, I mean it literally was this huge
opening to my eyes at such ayoung age.
I was like, you know, I didn'teven like this shirt, you know,
I'm not even gonna wear it.
And I was like you know what?
That's the last time I wearsomething for somebody else, and
how does that translate in therest of my life?
That's the last time I dosomething for somebody else, you
know, I mean in that way, likefor somebody else's external
(15:44):
validation, and so it was like,but it's, I won't say that.
It's like oh yeah, I amauthentically me, no matter what
.
There are times where you'relike, oh, am I enough or am I
too much?
Or, you know, there's all thosethoughts that run through your
mind.
So it is an ongoing practice of, I would say, self-awareness
and self-compassion, you know.
Amber Annette (16:06):
I don't know why, but I want to talk for a second
and we didn't talk about thisbeforehand.
So I really struggle withapparel.
Like I really struggle withlike what to wear.
I feel like I change so muchall the time that I don't have
like a signature style I feellike I never know anything about
(16:29):
, like I'm not a trendy dresserby any means.
Jessica Hoch (16:33):
I how?
Amber Annette (16:35):
how does apparel and clothing and your jewelry,
like, how does that help youconnect, like the inner pieces
of you to that outer piece ofyou?
I mean I am super connect, Imean you know this right.
Like I am super connected onthe inside of who I am, where
(16:57):
I'm going, my connection to theuniverse, and yet outside visual
representation of me.
Sometimes I'm like like I'msitting here looking at like my
ripped jeans and my like satinshirt and I'm like this outfit
probably does not.
What is this?
Jessica Hoch (17:12):
So how do?
Amber Annette (17:13):
you like what is the go back?
Let's like, let's go into thisa little bit, Like how can you
have the out you?
Because I think maybe that whatI'm really saying here is I
think you do such a phenomenaljob of the outside of you the,
the clothes you wear, thejewelry, where it just is like a
(17:33):
representation of your soul.
I really believe that when Isee you, how do you do that?
I want to do that.
How do you do that?
Jessica Hoch (17:41):
I think about seventh grade and think I'll
never dress for someone elseagain.
No, I think what it is, youknow, I've thought about that
too, actually the wholesignature style and like how do
people know that this is me, youknow?
Or my look, my style, and I amvery I say I'm very multifaceted
(18:02):
, right?
So there are times where I'mgoing to be in flowy linen pants
, with a, with a shawl over meand look look like a goddess
Right.
And then there's times where,like, I'm on my bike, I'm on my
motorcycle today and I look likea biker bitch, you know, and it
just is amazing.
I think what it is is like Ijust I dress for my mood.
(18:25):
You know the people talk about,oh, I got to put my outfit out
the night before.
I'm like there's no way, whatam I?
I will wake up.
I'm not gonna feel like wearingthat.
Amber Annette (18:33):
Okay, I can't hold this back anymore.
I kind of brought this up for areason, and usually towards
them, towards the end of theshow is when I start doing this.
But you do know it's time forMoxie Mala to start having a
peril right.
Like you don't know, that'scoming.
Jessica Hoch (18:47):
I mean, I didn't know.
Amber Annette (18:49):
Okay, well, just so you know that's coming.
I see I'm dead.
So, tapping in here, I'm seeinglike a chakra clothing line
which is super freaking cool.
So that's next that's coming,and it feels like like not that
the jewelry is like a part ofthe shirt, right, but like a
signature piece of jewelry goeswith the shirt, and it feels
(19:11):
like limited line.
Like you know, there's onlylike limited pieces kind of
thing.
It's not something that'salways in stock, it's exclusive,
it's maybe around Christmas.
So, girl, get going on that I'm,I can see it already and if I
can see something, well then weknow it needs to like be brought
to the world.
So we'll tap into that a littlebit more here.
When I get to your, when I getto your business reading, for
(19:33):
sure, for sure.
So you know, let's, let's nowbring kind of our listeners to
where you're at now.
So Moxie mall is is rockinbracelets, jewelry.
It's amazing, just the love,the mission of your company.
But your own spiritual journeyhas kind of led to a new
(19:54):
business journey.
Inside of Moxie mall is so kindof share where things are going
right now, because it isfreaking phenomenal and I'm so
excited for our audience to hearabout it.
Jessica Hoch (20:04):
Yeah, I think so.
How my journey has beenevolving is really about, you
know.
You talk about being authenticand really finding my authentic
voice and how to share thismessage of Moxie in a bigger way
and how to get more people onthis Moxie train of personal
empowerment and healing andfinding their own authentic
(20:26):
voice.
And so that's where we came upwith the Moxie mentor program.
So it's really interesting whenI talk about the Moxie bracelet
workshop that we have.
I've had people come into thatworkshop and say I thought I was
making a bracelet.
What the hell just happened?
Because their eyes are open toall these different ideas and
all these possibilities of whathealing can look like for them,
(20:49):
what their journey might looklike, what empowerment would
look like for them, and so Ithought how can we get more, as
many people as possible havingtheir eyes opened to the
possibility of themselves?
And so that's where the myMentor program comes in and
training other people on how tofacilitate a workshop that would
create the sacred container ofself-development.
Amber Annette (21:14):
And so and let's just talk about what your
workshops actually do.
They activate.
They activate an awakening.
You know these women are comingto your workshops thinking
they're making a bracelet andreally what's getting activated
is purpose.
You talk about manifesting, youtalk about healing, you talk
(21:34):
about self-development.
Inside of these workshops it'sso much more than jewelry.
That's just a beautiful pieceof evidence that they were there
in that moment with you andthat locks it in and it
symbolizes that point oftransformation.
But that's what this mentorshipis about.
And so kind of talk a littlebit about how.
(21:55):
So there's just going to be avariety of workshops, or tell us
a little bit about that, whatthese my Mentor workshops are.
Jessica Hoch (22:03):
Yeah, absolutely.
So there are going to be avariety of different workshops,
different focuses on workshops.
There's the one, like thesignature workshop is about, you
know, taking an assessment ofwhere you are and how to
introduce to the energy andcrystals and creating intention
manifestation, that kind ofthing.
And then the other workshopsare going to be more pinpointed
(22:24):
on specific, different topics.
Right, and so the Moxie Mentorsare going to be trained in all
these different workshops andthen they can, in turn, go and
facilitate these workshopsDuring the my Moxie Mentor
training.
The reason why I wanted to dothe Mo Cementor training, versus
just sign people up and theycan go teach, is because there
is so much more to the workshopthan just making a bracelet,
(22:46):
like you were saying.
So I'm talking about how do youfacilitate a transformational
workshop?
How do you hold space fortrauma right, that might come up
.
How do you find your own voiceand create this sacred container
and, at the same time, sharingthe knowledge that's behind all
of the energy work, all of thecrystals.
I mean it's a robust amount ofinformation to walk in and go
(23:10):
hey, we're going to make abracelet, you know, yeah, in
order to facilitate thattransformation.
Amber Annette (23:18):
I love it.
Well, I'm excited for you tobring this new mentorship to the
world.
I'm super excited to supportyou with that and for our
listeners.
I just want to make sure thatyou guys go and check out the
notes section because A there'sgoing to be a link there to a
special gift from Moxie Malas,from Jessica, and just make sure
(23:40):
to go check out the website.
It's moxiemalas.
com and there is just thecoolest jewelry on there, the
best bracelets, and I am superexcited to just say that I have
partnered with Moxie Malas justvery recently and we are making
an exclusive partnership piece.
That I cannot wait.
(24:02):
It's going to be exclusive forjust the business psychic and it
is I kind of want to like teasethem with the name Should.
I tell them.
Should I tell them the name ofit?
Jessica Hoch (24:13):
Yeah, I mean, it's yours.
Amber Annette (24:15):
So it is.
It is the intuition queenbracelet and I'm super excited
to have that exclusive piecewith you, Jessica.
So thank you so much for saying, for just sharing you and your
journey and your insights.
Jessica Hoch (24:33):
And now, in true the business.
Yeah, here we go In true thebusiness psychic fashion.
Amber Annette (24:42):
I am going to just kind of tap in and I feel
like I'm kind of cheating onthis one a little bit, because
I'm connected with you all thetime, we work together all the
time, but I don't always just dobusiness readings when you're a
coaching client of mine.
So this is, this is still gonnalike the apparel thing.
I did not see that coming andall of a sudden I saw this like
full line of these, like supercute shirts that had an
(25:04):
accompanying bracelet, like whywould it not?
Like?
That makes total sense.
I want one, please.
So then I don't have to worryabout just like my apparel for
me.
Please just plan my apparel forme, thank you.
So I'm going to tap in, I'mgoing to do a business reading
and then I have a very importantquestion for you.
So ready, yeah, okay.
So let's, let's tap in here,okay.
(25:30):
So as much as you love thebracelets and the jewelry,
because of the energy and thefrequency of the stones, there
is just so much more in jest,that word moxie that can be
infused into multiple products.
And so not only am I seeingsome shirts, but I'm also
(25:53):
starting to see a line of whatlooks like journals or some type
of like notebook or some typeof some type of paper product
like that so is.
So you said you hadn't thoughtof the shirts, which now I can.
I'm telling you, it's already aline, it's happening, but have
you ever thought about likejournals or something along
(26:13):
those lines?
Jessica Hoch (26:14):
Well, I have to say thank you for the
confirmation, because I woke upand was half asleep and I keep a
notebook on my nightstand forthis moment and I was like, oh,
just scribble this, I'll read itlater.
I don't even know what I'mwriting and it was like you need
to have a moxie journal and anaccompanying deck.
Amber Annette (26:32):
Wait a minute.
When did that happen?
Like a couple weeks ago.
So confirmation evidence fromthe universe.
It is time to expand thosethings.
Now the other thing and I knowthis might feel a little
overwhelming because you alreadyare building a beautiful, you
know tier of your business withthe moxie mentorship, but I feel
(26:56):
like signature pieces forpeople's homes.
I feel like Interesting.
It's so important to have theenergy of these rocks and
crystals and plants and thingslike that in our homes.
It raises the frequency, itraises the vibration.
Probably about 10 years ago now, I had my home doused and had
(27:19):
these like energy rods placed incertain places and this was to
raise, like, the frequency ofyour home.
And maybe it did, because eversince then I've done amazing
right.
And how cool would it be if youalso like I almost think of like
you created like a moxie homemap that then came with like a
(27:41):
different crystal to placeinside of a crystal piece to
place inside of the home, right,but the cool part about this is
it could be a subscription,right.
So they get, they get this mapof their entire home and month
one they get I have no idea LikeI'm just going to go with this
like they get a piece ofselenite to place in their
(28:04):
kitchen, for example, or a coollike and not just like a piece
of .
Maybe it's weaved into somethingthat gets put on display, or it
can be put in a plant orsomething right on the
refrigerator, something coollike that.
But then the next month theyget the second piece for the
second place in their home andso they start to build the
energy inside of their home fromyour knowledge and your wisdom,
(28:29):
of your of, from yourcollection.
So there are some really coolthings that like that I see
coming for you that you're likeOkay, here we go again.
Here's that other pivot, andI'm also the universe is is
really telling me it's time foryou to get curious again, and as
(28:51):
much as you are already like init in the business, I feel like
there's some magic missing.
I feel like there's, there'ssome of that curiosity that is
stirring that maybe you've beenignoring.
So I don't know if that matchesfor you either how you've been
feeling lately.
Jessica Hoch (29:08):
And it sure does, and I already know what it's
talking about.
Amber Annette (29:12):
Here we go, another ride, another
entrepreneurial.
Jessica Hoch (29:17):
Yeah, I haven't even touched it.
Yeah.
Amber Annette (29:22):
So, it's okay to be curious, as I like
curiosities often lead tocallings, so that it doesn't
mean that you're not going tohave Moxie.
There's something the universeis asking you to lean into.
Really pay attention to thatGood news.
November and December of thisyear are going to be your best
(29:43):
months in business ever.
So not sure what you gotcooking for us over there, but
it feels like phenomenal numbers.
November and December soexciting that's.
Who doesn't want to hear that?
For their numbers, october theuniverse is showing me something
(30:04):
with October.
I feel like there's going to besome travel in October that's
going to lead to some type ofopportunity.
I would say.
I almost feel like it's goingto lead to a celebrity, like a
well known celebrity, wearingone of your pieces.
That like gives you just likean explosion, thank you.
(30:25):
If you've been toying withTikTok shop, I'm also going to
tell you to hold and pause onthat for just a little bit
longer.
Sure, I would.
I feel like around that sametime, october feels like a
better time for you.
If you've been thinking aboutTikTok shop and I don't know we
haven't talked about that, butthere's there's an opportunity
(30:48):
for TikTok in October to getsome jewelry listed on there and
it feels like it just kind ofgoes gangbusters like viral,
viral, viral.
I'm seeing it Got to wait untilOctober on that one Perfect.
Jessica Hoch (31:03):
Any questions on those?
No, it's all aligning withthings that are in my mind and
Get them into the world.
I know.
Amber Annette (31:11):
You've been thinking it.
The universe gave you the ideafor a reason.
Jessica Hoch (31:13):
Take it and run with it.
Girl, and I love that.
Amber Annette (31:16):
Yes, yeah, I do give a lot of ideas, I know,
yeah, if you're working with me,the ideas kind of come in like
the form of a fire hosesometimes, but that's okay.
Ideas, income, and who doesn'twant that, right, right, okay,
now To wrap it up, my signaturequestion are you ready?
(31:37):
So, for those of you listening,Jessica has not this.
We're still in the early stagesof the podcast year and Jessica
does not know this question.
And if you're a listener andthis is not your first podcast,
you know what I'm going to askher, but she doesn't.
So I'm excited to do thisbecause it's fun when nobody
knows the question, when, when,when my guest doesn't know the
question.
If you could connect to anybodyin spirit and receive a message
(32:05):
from them, who would it be?
Jessica Hoch (32:09):
I could connect to anybody in spirit.
Anybody in spirit Now.
Amber Annette (32:13):
I want to point out that I have connected to
Steve Jobs, I've connected toMarilyn Monroe, even connected
to Michael Jackson for somebody.
I've connected to people's pastloved ones.
So there is no limit on this,on who I can channel and connect
to for you.
Jessica Hoch (32:31):
Oh, oh.
He's like I'm going to ask itright now.
Who would I, who would Iconnect with?
What, if I don't know the name?
Oh well, let's go.
I want to connect to a healedancestor from my lineage, from
(32:51):
the Rose Clown of Scotland.
Amber Annette (32:55):
So what's interesting is, as soon as you
said that, I got this image oflike a Celtic cross, of this
like weaved, this weaved image,and I don't know if you've ever
seen an image of her, but I getthis long, wavy, strawberry
(33:21):
blonde hair, just like goingdown her back and she has a
gorgeous crown of flowers aroundher head and she is you and you
are her.
Jessica Hoch (33:37):
I like it.
Amber Annette (33:40):
And when you think of the word moxie, I want
you to envision her, because ina time that feels like women
were so oppressed and in a in aworld where they were in, he was
full of moxie and fought withher heart and soul.
(34:01):
Do you know that to be?
Jessica Hoch (34:05):
true of her.
Oh yeah, it feels true, and Ithink that's what I'm talking
about.
Yeah, absolutely.
Amber Annette (34:15):
So she also sends an image to me for you, and I
don't know if you've everconnected to this before, but
she sends the and and I have tobe mindful of this because this
is an image that I receive formyself or something.
But she is sending it to youfor a different, and she's
sending a black crow which tellsme that she, back in that time,
(34:38):
might have been, I'm going tosay, a Celtic witch, which I
don't know that I've ever heardthat term before, or that in
this crow, this black crow, isjust a symbolism of her power
and of her wisdom and of and ofher magic that she had back then
(34:59):
, that she had to keep secret,and you don't have to keep it
secret.
Jessica Hoch (35:02):
I like it.
And if he is me and I am her,understand loud and clear, feel
good.
Yeah, I mean, the black crowsare like a really big thing in
my life, really really big thing.
So oh, we've never talked aboutthat before.
We haven't.
(35:23):
That's why I'm like I'msurprised you know that.
You didn't know that I meanlike I have it.
Amber Annette (35:31):
You have a black crow tattoo.
Are you kidding me?
I have four of them.
You have four black crowtattoos, yeah, no.
Jessica Hoch (35:38):
And a thing that says she is me.
So yeah, I was.
So I had a past life regressiondone a long time ago and she
said that in a past life that Icontrolled the crows and that it
was part of?
Amber Annette (35:52):
Oh my God, I'm covered.
In truth, jessica, we have beenworking.
We have never had thisconversation before.
Jessica Hoch (35:58):
I know I get surprising.
I like it, yeah, and she andyou know, in my sense, when I
was pregnant with my sons andthis has never happened before
since three weeks before theywere born like 300 crows descend
on our neighborhood.
It was so loud that I couldhear it from downstairs and I
went outside and was like, oh mygosh, what is happening?
It's time, you know.
(36:19):
And then each time there was acrow that had like laid down and
died under a tree in our yard,like tucked its beacon and was
done and it's supposed to be asign of like long life and
health and wealth and all that.
So, and it happened three weeksbefore my first son and three
weeks before my second son.
(36:40):
Oh my gosh, that's amazing.
Yeah, it's kind of wild.
People don't believe me when Isay it and I'm like I don't need
you to.
Oh, I believe you.
Amber Annette (36:49):
I believe you have the energy I just pulled
from her.
I believe you like.
She showed me that sign for youloud and clear, and I had no
idea that was such a significantpiece for you.
That's amazing.
Well, now you know where itcomes from.
I love it, I'm about it.
Thank you, jessica.
Thank you so much for being onthe show, thank you so much for
(37:10):
listening and until next time,go be in your magic and I will
see you on the next episode.
Thanks for listening to thisepisode.
I hope it inspired and ignitedyour entrepreneurial spirit in
terms of your intuition andtrust in the universe.
(37:30):
Make sure to check out the shownotes section for access to my
transformation suite All of freeresources, tools and content to
help you grow your businesswhile staying true to your
soul's purpose.
Until next week, go make somebusiness magic, soul sister.
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