May 7, 2025 • 33 mins
In this special episode, Cameo takes you behind the scenes of her debut book The Reset Button, coming May 20. After five years of writing, re-writing, doubting, deleting, and digging deep—it’s finally happening. But the truth? She’s feeling everything.
- What it really took to finish the book (spoiler: not just time)
- The fears she’s still navigating as launch day approaches
- Why writing a memoir means facing hard truths—and harder conversations
- Behind the 3 R’s framework: Reflect, Reset, Reinvent
- Facing judgement
- The meaning behind the circular arrows on the cover
- What she hopes you will take away from the pages
This isn’t a promo episode—it’s a heart-to-heart from the middle of the mess. If you’ve ever felt afraid to be seen, or like you’re sitting on a dream you’re scared to share, this one’s for you!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello and welcome to the Cameo Show.
I'm your host, cameo.
We are joined by my husband andco-host, greg Braun Woo.
That was a lot of enthusiasmthis morning.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Well, I'm jacked up, super excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Awesome, you always have a dad joke, so let's get
started with a little chucklehere, or not?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Remember when plastic surgery was taboo.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
And now you mentioned Botox, and nobody lifts an
eyebrow.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
That's actually really funny, because it's true.
Sometimes they get frozen andthey can't move.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Thank you.
What are we talking abouttodayreg?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I have no idea what.
What should we talk about?
Um, I mean, what in the worldis going on that we should be
telling everyone about?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
for those of you not watching the video, greg's
pointing to a giant stack of aturquoise book called the reset
button, which is, coincidentally, my book that releases on may
20th, so in like under two weeksfrom when this airs, which is
insane, insane, insane I, uh, Ijust can't believe we're right
(01:19):
here and I keep telling you,enjoy you.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Enjoy this moment.
Enjoy this moment Because thisbuildup and crescendo to the
release day is like where allthe excitement lies, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
You're right, and it is very exciting.
I've been working on this bookfor five years.
It's finally going to bereleased.
It's just that writing it is onething, yeah, and releasing it
is another yeah so I'm tryingreally hard to enjoy this moment
because it's been a long timecoming and I am very excited
(01:56):
about it, and I'm excited aboutthe potential that the book has,
not just for me, but mostly tohelp so many people who might
feel stuck in their lives orhiding from shame and living a
life of the shoulds.
I should be doing this.
I should be doing that thepotential to help so many people
(02:17):
but it's scary.
So, as much as I'd like toenjoy these couple of weeks
leading up to release, I also amjust a ping pong ball in my
mind of emotion back and forthbetween this is awesome and this
is stupid, and this is going tobe amazing and you shouldn't be
doing this at all.
What are you thinking?
So it's a wild ride, man.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And people probably wouldn't really guess this, but
even as we're just a few weeksout, you're still contemplating
not releasing it.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's true.
I mean, I have this amazinggroup of women who are on my
launch team, who are supportingme, and friends who aren't on my
launch team just because maybethey don't have the capacity to
commit to that, but are beingsupportive and sharing on social
media and sending me texts thatsay, hey, I'm so excited, I'm
so proud of you, and I don'twant to let them down because
(03:12):
they're working hard for me, youknow, to help me out in, in
promoting this book, which isamazing.
It's more than I could everimagine or ask for.
Right.
But also just the constanttrepidation is a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, and that's something to talk about too If
somebody wants to help out, howcan they?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, you can email me at hello at cameoelisebroncom
, If you'd like to join mylaunch team to help promote the
book.
I can send you some things tomake it easy for you to do so.
Or you can simply share,mention something that I've
already posted or somethingthat's your own words, because
that's going to land better withthe people that you love and
(03:51):
care about than something I'vemade for you about what this
book might mean to you or yourexcitement around the book
coming out.
So there's no wrong way to help.
There's no wrong way to promote, and each time someone shares
something, I am literally almostbrought to tears because I I
can't believe it.
You know honestly like it's ait's unlike anything I've ever
(04:14):
experienced, quite honestly, upto this point, especially as an
adult.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, it's been really cool to see people step
up and help you and offer theiryou know support and give you a
shout out on their social mediafeed.
And you know, because you'vebeen working on this for a long
time and, just like everythingelse in the beginning, it's just
(04:38):
you.
It's just you and a dream youknow, and you're just, you're
just working away at it on asaturday night or a sunday
afternoon or constantly in myhead, never ending, and you're
and you're constantly, you know,just chipping away in silence
and there's never anyonecheering for you and it's like
(05:00):
you're just training and it's,you know, you're just doing all
and so to you to be at thispoint of it, and then people
stepping up and like, hey, youknow, showing support, showing
love, and then how much thatmeans to you and to me, you know
, as your, as your spouse, it'slike it's really cool to see the
positive, supportive side ofsocial media, of people that are
(05:24):
sharing good stuff.
You know, and they haven't evenread the book yet.
But just based on your vibe andwhat you've shared on this, you
know, last 10 years of ourjourney on rebuilding our lives,
you know the little bit thatyou've shared on social media.
Obviously you can't shareeverything, but like it's, you
know it's connecting with peoplein.
(05:45):
Like it's, you know it'sconnecting with people in the
right way, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, thank you.
This podcast is a huge part ofthat too, because when we
started this podcast a couple ofyears ago, I really wasn't sure
what to expect or anticipate.
It was just a way for me tokind of get some of these ideas
out as I was writing and see howthey landed and see how they
helped people, and so thepositive reinforcement that I've
had, or we've had, from sharinglittle glimpses into our life,
(06:09):
into the things that we strugglewith, into our own story, along
with a lot of other people andour guests along the way, has
been motivating and alsoencouraging and an affirmation,
maybe confirmation, that whatwe're talking about people feel,
people experience in their ownway and that it's helpful.
Each time I get a message fromsomeone again kind of like the
(06:32):
support I'm getting for the bookbut each time I get a message
from someone about how thispodcast has helped them see
things from a differentperspective or encouraged them
to keep going in a moment whenthey weren't sure, it reiterates
that the intentionality isright and that sharing our life
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is helpful in a way that impactshumanity, and that's all I
could ever ask for.
I really just didn't know whatto expect Ever With any of these
projects.
I just knew it felt right, it'sscary.
Let me say yeah, it's scaryyeah.
Let me say that, again, it'sscary, it's frightening, but, um
, you know, I feel brave andhave the courage to keep going
(07:15):
each time I hear someone elsesay that they could too.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Well, it's interesting because, uh, you
only keep what you have bygiving it away, and that's just
no different than working out inthe gym.
You can't stay strong just bygetting strong one time.
You've got to continually keepworking at it and you can't stay
mentally strong, emotionallystrong, you don't just set it
and forget it and never get backto it.
(07:40):
It's a constant.
So, literally this book andI've read it a few times now but
even reading about it and a lotof it is my life, I don't think
, you know, maybe not everyoneunderstands that, but, like,
there's a lot about me in thisbook too.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, this book is as much yours as it is mine, right
?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And that's exciting too, because there's so much
about me and my history that alot of people don't know
probably you know.
So it's just, it's just wild tosee, you know, even when I'm
reading a book about my lifethat you wrote and our journey,
and I still read it and takethings away from it.
(08:24):
And I still read it and takethings away from it, like when
I've read through it a few times, I always have this huge hit of
hope and because essentiallythis is a love story or a
journey of a couple throughlife's twists and turns that are
very relatable with money andand substances and you know just
(08:49):
all the things all the thingsparenting relationship struggles
yeah career choices, I meanjust and it's not like you did
that on, it's just literally theway it has gone, like all of
the areas and they've all beenflipped on their head, re
reprogrammed, renovated from topto bottom because they had to
(09:14):
be, because you couldn't just be, you couldn't leave one thing
open.
I mean, can you talk about likethat?
I mean, can you talk about thein a little better detail of?
Of these pillars of this book.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, so I think the best way to put it is that we
don't live our lives in a vacuumand all of these separate
entities and things that we do,they overlap.
I found myself in a place whenI started writing this book
where I had done a lot ofinternal work, and so it started
(09:52):
as kind of a almost like ajournal, like almost just.
I started writing it for me toexpress all of the things that I
had been through and felt andlearned along the way, and there
was just so much overlap withyou.
You're my husband, you're mypartner, you're the love of my
life, you're in every twist andturn along the way.
And so then it was like wellgosh, in learning about myself,
I've learned so much aboutpartnership and a relationship
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and respect and trust andcommunication.
And then I realized that'stranslated into how we parent
our kids, how we show up forthem, how we communicate with
them, how we create thisopenness and this reciprocated
respect for each other, and thatnone of this has ever been easy
.
When I say all this, I don'tmean like it's just been an easy
(10:38):
journey.
I just mean that it's all beensomething that we've worked
through, just mean that it's allbeen something that we've
worked through, and a lot of theways that we've worked through,
some of the things that we'veencountered, have helped us.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
When we encounter new things, we've been tools that
you pick up along the way right.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
There's been a preparedness, or more of a
readiness, by letting thesethings really sink in as a
framework or a way to approachthings in life, and that then
bled into the choices that wemade about my career and
starting a business and way backwhen balancing being a
(11:16):
stay-at-home mom and wanting tostill have my career, and how
and when that went off the railsbecause I didn't have these
tools, I didn't have thisframework or the maturity level,
quite honestly, to reallyunderstand who I was and where I
was at that time.
So you asked the question abouthow do these things all play
together?
How did it just end up that way?
Well, I'm just literally in themost raw form, sharing my life.
(11:41):
Something challenging aboutwriting this book because it's a
memoir and it's a manual isthat just because things happen
doesn't make them interesting.
You know, there's a lot that isin this book.
There's a lot that is notbecause not everything is super
helpful in a in a book like this, you know, for for someone to
(12:05):
read, and that another thingthat I had to continuously tell
myself along the way was thatjust because I didn't put it in
the book doesn't mean it didn'thappen or that it isn't true.
It's just I had to carefullypick and choose what I wanted to
share because I wanted it tomeet people where they are in
their life.
(12:25):
This book is about me, but itisn't about me at all.
So the evolution of writing itfor me then turned into oh man,
this is actually for everybodyelse.
It gives me chills.
I'm such a nerd, but it's trueand it's really one of the only
things that's kept me going andkeeps me hanging on to why I'm
(12:46):
releasing this in the firstplace, Because if I get too far
ahead of myself and I make itabout me, I am scared to death.
If I'm just being honest, youknow.
I'm human.
Yeah, but when I make sure thatI keep at the forefront the why
and that it's for everyone else,it's not quite as scary.
(13:07):
Yeah.
And it puts me back on theright path of doing.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
doing this, releasing this, and also in a world where
there's so many experts.
That's not the vibe here, it'snot your vibe of your book.
It's, you know, my vibe.
Yes, we've figured some thingsout and yes, we've been through
some shitty stuff and, yes, wepulled through, and some stuff
(13:33):
not so much, and I mean, but thewhole tone of this is not like.
Listen to me, I have.
The only way this is how itgoes and that's also refreshing
too is like it's not.
The tone of it is.
I feel like I'm hanging outwith my cool aunt.
You know what I mean.
Like if, if you're, if you'rereading this book, you're going
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to be like again.
I'm trying not to be thecharacter in the story, but like
if someone's reading it's likeIf you don't do it this way, you
fail.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
It's meant to be expertise by experience.
And sometimes that experienceand the expertise that comes out
(14:24):
of it is wrong, and I'm notafraid to share that, because
I've made many turns in my lifethat have ended up being a wrong
turn and I've had to determinethen, okay, how do I go forward?
Which, what direction do I go?
And it was really important tome for that to be the tone of
(14:45):
the book, because I I'm stillfiguring it out as well.
I just know that some of thethings that I have figured out
thus far continuously helped mewhen I get stuck now.
Yeah.
And I know that that can befreeing for other people who are
suffering in silence withthings that they aren't sure how
to approach or who to talk toabout it or what to do.
(15:06):
Right.
Because it's scary for everyone.
It's not just scary for me toshare this, it's scary for
everyone to face it.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, you got goosebumps.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I know I could cry.
I've got to walk the tissues.
Get them out, let's go I feellike this year you've been
interviewing me a lot and I justam not sure how I feel about
this, because you know I'musually the one in the interview
seat.
But well, a lot of thingshappening and I'm learning a lot
about myself every single day,especially this year, as I'm
facing bigger, scarier, excitingbig stuff yeah things, but you
(15:41):
know, that's I.
I just keep reminding myselfthat this is one what you hoped
for to be at this spot where youhave what you dreamed about
physically have a book in yourhand, but also um, you know how
you grow and I, I just want tocontinue to grow every single
day, and sometimes that meansdoing often.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Usually that means doing really scary things when
you don't want to well, andthat's what's cool about this is
, this is a book that if someoneagain, I don't want to give
people unsolicited advice, butif someone came to me and said,
hey, I'm kind of in a bad spot,I'm kind of stuck with this or
with work, or I've got, you know, relationship issues, it's like
(16:26):
this is is the perfect thing togive to somebody or any sort of
life transition, or, you know,because it's a story of bravery,
transition.
Or you know, because it's astory of bravery, you know
encouragement, you know taking achance and, I think, knowing
that as humans weover-exaggerate the negative 90%
(16:49):
and underestimate theoptimistic side.
A lot of times we makedecisions fear-based that are
grossly wrong to stay safe, tokeep us safe, but they're the
wrong decision because it'sbased out of fear, not that deep
.
Knowing that you know what Ican do this, I'm going to bet on
me this time.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And that's definitely what this story is about.
I remove myself.
That fear feels so real in themoment it's really hard to
discern that it's different Onthe book, just about the story
you mentioned.
It's a love story, it's aredemption story, all of the
things that you said.
It's also, in my opinion, areminder that we're all on our
(17:33):
own path.
So, even though our story, ourlove story, and where the
characters in the book ended upturning out the way that it has,
doesn't mean that if the reader, if their life or their choices
haven't ended up that way, itdoesn't mean that they won't or
that all is lost.
It's you know.
I feel it's important tomention that because I don't
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want someone to feel like, wellgreat, I recently divorced, so
your book's not going to help mea whole lot because I wasn't
able to save or salvage orrepair my marriage.
It's not about that.
I just want to make that veryclear, that it's not just for
people who are saving theirmarriage or just for people who
use alcohol or substances as away to cope with things, because
(18:20):
we talk about that stuff a lot.
It's a major theme of the bookbut it's for anyone, wherever
they are or whatever theirrelationship status is or
whatever their coping mechanismis.
It's really about being curious, yeah.
It's about reflecting andhaving the courage to say I'm
(18:41):
going to question these things,because questions are power,
yeah, and questions areperspective yeah, so so let's
jump into that.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
So this is literally two books in one, because
there's a memoir, which is thejourney, the story, and then
there's the workbook, there'sthe manual, there's the like
how-to, which I freaking lovebecause I've read plenty of
books and like it's a greatmemoir, but you always are left
with like, yeah, but I wouldlove to know what your framework
(19:09):
was.
Or you read, you know, a manualand it's like you know, I'd
love to know the story behind it, but this is like all in one
which you know.
Hopefully people enjoy that asmuch as I've enjoyed reading it
too.
But what are your high level?
What's the concept here of thebook?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
So the framework.
I'm glad you asked the frameworkof the reset button is simple
and it may even feel reallysimple, but that's on purpose,
because again back to the expertthing it's hard to remember all
the psychology of your thoughtsand how to do this right.
It's not about doing it right,it's about just remembering
three simple R's Reflect, whereyou question things and you look
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at everything objectively tofigure out like where am I, why
am I here, what do I want, whatdo I not want?
The curious part Reset that'spermission to say okay, now I
kind of understand where I'm at.
What do I need to dodifferently?
What changes can I make?
And I'm going to feel empoweredto do so.
(20:11):
I don't have to do things theway that I always have just
because that's the way that Iwas conditioned, or that's what
I've picked up somewhere, orthat's what I've seen as my
example, or that's what's alwaysworked and I'm clinging to it
because I'm afraid to dosomething different.
Reset, permission.
And then the reinvention iskind of the good part.
It's where you get to show upin this new version of yourself
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and start the 3R process allover again, really, because it's
a never-ending evolution ofdoing it as many times as you
need to and as you want to, aslife throws curveballs at you,
to navigate what's happening andmake sure that you stay in
alignment with who you reallyare without getting lost or
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feeling stuck so the resetbutton is simple Reflect, reset
and reinvent yourself over andover and over again.
Hit it.
Hit the reset button as manytimes as you need.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
That's awesome Tweet tweet.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
So it's simple, but it's on purpose, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
That's awesome and I think a lot of people will get
that.
I mean, that makes sense.
It's something that you canapply right away to any aspect
of your life, any area of yourlife parenting work.
For me, it seems like this.
This last frontier is like myhow I talk to myself.
Yeah.
You know, I mean when you'rebuilding and building, building,
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building, and you're, andyou're doing all these things.
You're, you're so focused ondoing these external things and
I'm sure a lot of people outthere can relate to that You're
busy, you're too busy to thinkabout yourself, little old me,
you know, and you're doing allthese things.
But I find myself personally ina spot where I'm like doing the
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three hours for myself and likewhy do I think that way, why do
I view that differently thanthis?
Or?
And?
And really investigating that.
And that's where my work hasbeen lately, you know, again,
just applying these things realtime.
It's a never ending.
It's just like.
(22:17):
It's like someone that likes totinker and do do household
projects, like going around yourhouse and looking like, oh,
that that needs trimmed up, thatneeds fixed, that could use it.
You know it's.
It's your whole life can beconstantly be, uh, under
improvement, and there's noshame in that.
Like we're not running aroundtrying to act perfect or act
like we've got it all figuredout, far from it.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Far from it.
But here's the stuff that'shelped us this far, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, the reset button book is broken down into
sections.
Yeah, with the manual three r'sat the end of each section.
Yeah, so what I've tried to doat the end of each section is
give you some starting pointswith the reflect, some questions
to ask yourself, yeah, as thereader, about yourself.
(23:06):
The key to those questions isbrutal honesty, even when it
sucks, because the answers tothose questions are often, if
you're being brutally honest,not easy to face when you find
yourself stuck or unhappy orunsure or just have this feeling
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inside of like resentment why,why do I feel this way?
Everything's great.
Why am I still feelingunresolved about something?
And you know, those questionsare sometimes a big smack in the
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face, honestly, if you answerthem with truth, with your truth
, with where you are in yourlife, and then the reset gives
some new ideas just to spark,you know, a jumping off point,
because sometimes you find thoseanswers and you're like, oh
shit.
Yeah.
What am I supposed to do now?
So the reset part of eachsection gives some ideas, and
then the reinvention part isreally for inspiration, to say
(24:11):
like this is what has kind ofhappened in our life since doing
these things and what I'vefound that you might find as a
continuing residual effect rightthe reset ripple effect in your
life.
Yeah, and that's real yeah,it's real.
I I've, along the way of writingthis, reverted back to these
(24:31):
three r's so many times I can'teven tell you, and I still do,
almost every single day.
And now it's just.
This framework has become partof, like, my own inner narrative
.
Like you said, this is what Ihear in my head now.
On the cover of the bookthere's an image of arrows and
they go in a circle, and someonepointed out to me once or as we
were writing this book anddesigning the cover.
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You know I have to bring thisup because it bothers me that
when you're hitting the resetbutton, you're not making the
same choices over and over andover again.
You're making different choices.
So it feels like the arrowsshould be shooting out all over
the place, and I couldn't agreemore, except the concept of the
image is that it never ends.
It's a constant cycle ofhitting the reset button.
(25:16):
I love both perspectives of thatbecause I can see how it plays
in, but that image to me meansand stands as a reminder that it
just you just go round andround, and not round and round
like chasing your tail, butround and round, and there's
never an ending to this ideathat you can restart round and
round and there's never anending yeah to this idea that
(25:37):
you can restart, reinvent.
You know, that's great.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, yeah, because I think is, as humans, we love to
have certainty.
That's why we love sports,because there's a finite winner
and a loser, you know, but inlife really, it's not.
You don't just get it right andthat's it.
It it's a constant.
You're always doing it.
You always show up every day.
It's not like you just do itone time and well, I figured
(26:00):
that out and now I can move onand never have to deal with that
again.
It's like this is going to showup every day in your life until
you deal with that problem, andthis is a great way to help
people maybe tackle somethingthat's just been the elephant in
the room their whole life andlike I don't even know where to
begin.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, I talk a lot about therapy in the book
because it's one of the toolsthat we used when we were having
trouble in our relationship,but also as individuals.
Even during the writing processI went back to therapy, you
know, because writing this, asyou mentioned, has been
therapeutic and things that Ithought I had already kind of
worked through resurfaced in adifferent way, and so it's kind
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of back to what you just said.
It's never ending and youreally just evolve as a person
and then kind of find theserepeating patterns until you
actually get to the bottom ofthem.
One of my biggest fears isjudgment out of this book,
because when you write a memoir,I mean I'm exposing some of the
ugliest, most embarrassing,most shameful things that I've
(27:07):
ever experienced in my life.
So you worry about judgment,but again, that's when I make it
about me.
And also, you know, one of thethings that I've had to
continuously remind myself aboutthat is that and this is for
everyone to remind themselveswhen they feel judged or when
they don't see eye to eye withsomeone is that a lot of times,
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judgment is coming from someoneelse's triggers.
They're responding to you orreacting to you based on how it
makes them feel about somethingthey've experienced in their own
life, not necessarily about youas a person.
That's a theme as I revisit,releasing this that this fear of
being judged.
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It's real and I will be judged,and I'm okay with that because I
know that the judgment isn'tnecessarily about who I am today
.
It might be about who I was orthe things that I have done in
my past, but or also, and mostlikely, about the person and
what they've experienced intheir own life, because we tend
(28:11):
to view outside things throughour own lens and our own
experiences, and so that's beenvery helpful for me and I know
that can be helpful for others,in a way of like freeing
themselves from judgment as well.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
The other thing just to touch on is that in writing a
memoir, it involves the peoplethat you love.
So in releasing this book, I'vehad to have some hard
conversations with the peoplethat I love, you know our kids,
our parents and that sucks.
There's no like easy way to sayit.
I'm trying to find an eloquentword, but the word is just it
(28:47):
sucks.
Because you never want to hurtor disappoint someone.
All you can ask for in thatmoment and sharing is for them
to understand that you'reexpressing yourself in the way
that you experienced what wasgoing on in your life at that
time and how that might haveimpacted your relationship with
them at that time, or how thatmight impact their relationship
(29:10):
with you now, as you've grownand changed as a person and I
know for people, change is veryscary and one of the reasons for
that is because of that verysame reason.
So the reason I bring that upis that I'm experiencing it.
Even back to the I don't haveit all figured out.
I'm experiencing it now,releasing a book that I wrote
(29:32):
about recognizing these cyclesin your life.
So, again back to the.
It's never ending, but all wecan hope for is to understand it
better, to stay curious, toalways be making decisions that
help us feel like we're mending,resolving, evolving and
continuing the cycle.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
So when's the book come out?
May?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
20th May, 20th come out May 20th.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
May 20th, thursday, may 20th.
How do we get it?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
It will be available in paperback, e-book and
hardcover on Amazon.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, when we say that, it's like, oh my God, it's
so exciting, and then all myself-doubt rushes into yeah, but
don't get too excited.
Yeah, but yeah but, um, I I dohope you'll grab a coffee copy.
I I do believe in the power ofthe framework and the
relatability of the life lessonsand stories.
(30:30):
I know that so many people willsee themselves in our story and
our lives, from my childhood tohow we met and you know, started
our young adult life with kidsand the balancing act of kids
and career and all of the thingsthat we've faced since and what
we did to get honest and decideto turn it around, turn the
(30:51):
ship around.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, I'm excited for everyone to read it and you're
going to just be like, oh mygosh, wow.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I hope so.
I hope that people seethemselves enough to be able to
lend some compassion tothemselves, to the people that
they love, and feel courageousand brave enough and inspired
enough and empowered enough tosay I got this, this is the one
life that I get, and I'm notgoing to carry around this big,
(31:23):
heavy backpack full of shame andwhat I should have been doing
for everybody else anymore.
I'm going to start makingdecisions for me.
I choose me today.
Yep.
All right.
Well, thanks for asking meabout the book.
I'm still a little squirmyabout it and a little squirmy in
this position Tied behind apillow I know it's my comfort
(31:44):
pillow and thank you all forbeing here.
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Hello and welcome to the Cameo Show.
I'm your host, cameo.
We are joined by my husband andco-host, greg Braun Woo.
That was a lot of enthusiasmthis morning.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Well, I'm jacked up, super excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Awesome, you always have a dad joke, so let's get
started with a little chucklehere, or not?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Remember when plastic surgery was taboo.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
And now you mentioned Botox, and nobody lifts an
eyebrow.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
That's actually really funny, because it's true.
Sometimes they get frozen andthey can't move.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Thank you.
What are we talking abouttodayreg?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I have no idea what.
What should we talk about?
Um, I mean, what in the worldis going on that we should be
telling everyone about?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
for those of you not watching the video, greg's
pointing to a giant stack of aturquoise book called the reset
button, which is, coincidentally, my book that releases on may
20th, so in like under two weeksfrom when this airs, which is
insane, insane, insane I, uh, Ijust can't believe we're right
(01:19):
here and I keep telling you,enjoy you.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Enjoy this moment.
Enjoy this moment Because thisbuildup and crescendo to the
release day is like where allthe excitement lies, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
You're right, and it is very exciting.
I've been working on this bookfor five years.
It's finally going to bereleased.
It's just that writing it is onething, yeah, and releasing it
is another yeah so I'm tryingreally hard to enjoy this moment
because it's been a long timecoming and I am very excited
(01:56):
about it, and I'm excited aboutthe potential that the book has,
not just for me, but mostly tohelp so many people who might
feel stuck in their lives orhiding from shame and living a
life of the shoulds.
I should be doing this.
I should be doing that thepotential to help so many people
(02:17):
but it's scary.
So, as much as I'd like toenjoy these couple of weeks
leading up to release, I also amjust a ping pong ball in my
mind of emotion back and forthbetween this is awesome and this
is stupid, and this is going tobe amazing and you shouldn't be
doing this at all.
What are you thinking?
So it's a wild ride, man.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And people probably wouldn't really guess this, but
even as we're just a few weeksout, you're still contemplating
not releasing it.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's true.
I mean, I have this amazinggroup of women who are on my
launch team, who are supportingme, and friends who aren't on my
launch team just because maybethey don't have the capacity to
commit to that, but are beingsupportive and sharing on social
media and sending me texts thatsay, hey, I'm so excited, I'm
so proud of you, and I don'twant to let them down because
(03:12):
they're working hard for me, youknow, to help me out in, in
promoting this book, which isamazing.
It's more than I could everimagine or ask for.
Right.
But also just the constanttrepidation is a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, and that's something to talk about too If
somebody wants to help out, howcan they?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, you can email me at hello at cameoelisebroncom
, If you'd like to join mylaunch team to help promote the
book.
I can send you some things tomake it easy for you to do so.
Or you can simply share,mention something that I've
already posted or somethingthat's your own words, because
that's going to land better withthe people that you love and
(03:51):
care about than something I'vemade for you about what this
book might mean to you or yourexcitement around the book
coming out.
So there's no wrong way to help.
There's no wrong way to promote, and each time someone shares
something, I am literally almostbrought to tears because I I
can't believe it.
You know honestly like it's ait's unlike anything I've ever
(04:14):
experienced, quite honestly, upto this point, especially as an
adult.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, it's been really cool to see people step
up and help you and offer theiryou know support and give you a
shout out on their social mediafeed.
And you know, because you'vebeen working on this for a long
time and, just like everythingelse in the beginning, it's just
(04:38):
you.
It's just you and a dream youknow, and you're just, you're
just working away at it on asaturday night or a sunday
afternoon or constantly in myhead, never ending, and you're
and you're constantly, you know,just chipping away in silence
and there's never anyonecheering for you and it's like
(05:00):
you're just training and it's,you know, you're just doing all
and so to you to be at thispoint of it, and then people
stepping up and like, hey, youknow, showing support, showing
love, and then how much thatmeans to you and to me, you know
, as your, as your spouse, it'slike it's really cool to see the
positive, supportive side ofsocial media, of people that are
(05:24):
sharing good stuff.
You know, and they haven't evenread the book yet.
But just based on your vibe andwhat you've shared on this, you
know, last 10 years of ourjourney on rebuilding our lives,
you know the little bit thatyou've shared on social media.
Obviously you can't shareeverything, but like it's, you
know it's connecting with peoplein.
(05:45):
Like it's, you know it'sconnecting with people in the
right way, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, thank you.
This podcast is a huge part ofthat too, because when we
started this podcast a couple ofyears ago, I really wasn't sure
what to expect or anticipate.
It was just a way for me tokind of get some of these ideas
out as I was writing and see howthey landed and see how they
helped people, and so thepositive reinforcement that I've
had, or we've had, from sharinglittle glimpses into our life,
(06:09):
into the things that we strugglewith, into our own story, along
with a lot of other people andour guests along the way, has
been motivating and alsoencouraging and an affirmation,
maybe confirmation, that whatwe're talking about people feel,
people experience in their ownway and that it's helpful.
Each time I get a message fromsomeone again kind of like the
(06:32):
support I'm getting for the bookbut each time I get a message
from someone about how thispodcast has helped them see
things from a differentperspective or encouraged them
to keep going in a moment whenthey weren't sure, it reiterates
that the intentionality isright and that sharing our life
(06:52):
is helpful in a way that impactshumanity, and that's all I
could ever ask for.
I really just didn't know whatto expect Ever With any of these
projects.
I just knew it felt right, it'sscary.
Let me say yeah, it's scaryyeah.
Let me say that, again, it'sscary, it's frightening, but, um
, you know, I feel brave andhave the courage to keep going
(07:15):
each time I hear someone elsesay that they could too.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Well, it's interesting because, uh, you
only keep what you have bygiving it away, and that's just
no different than working out inthe gym.
You can't stay strong just bygetting strong one time.
You've got to continually keepworking at it and you can't stay
mentally strong, emotionallystrong, you don't just set it
and forget it and never get backto it.
(07:40):
It's a constant.
So, literally this book andI've read it a few times now but
even reading about it and a lotof it is my life, I don't think
, you know, maybe not everyoneunderstands that, but, like,
there's a lot about me in thisbook too.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, this book is as much yours as it is mine, right
?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And that's exciting too, because there's so much
about me and my history that alot of people don't know
probably you know.
So it's just, it's just wild tosee, you know, even when I'm
reading a book about my lifethat you wrote and our journey,
and I still read it and takethings away from it.
(08:24):
And I still read it and takethings away from it, like when
I've read through it a few times, I always have this huge hit of
hope and because essentiallythis is a love story or a
journey of a couple throughlife's twists and turns that are
very relatable with money andand substances and you know just
(08:49):
all the things all the thingsparenting relationship struggles
yeah career choices, I meanjust and it's not like you did
that on, it's just literally theway it has gone, like all of
the areas and they've all beenflipped on their head, re
reprogrammed, renovated from topto bottom because they had to
(09:14):
be, because you couldn't just be, you couldn't leave one thing
open.
I mean, can you talk about likethat?
I mean, can you talk about thein a little better detail of?
Of these pillars of this book.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, so I think the best way to put it is that we
don't live our lives in a vacuumand all of these separate
entities and things that we do,they overlap.
I found myself in a place whenI started writing this book
where I had done a lot ofinternal work, and so it started
(09:52):
as kind of a almost like ajournal, like almost just.
I started writing it for me toexpress all of the things that I
had been through and felt andlearned along the way, and there
was just so much overlap withyou.
You're my husband, you're mypartner, you're the love of my
life, you're in every twist andturn along the way.
And so then it was like wellgosh, in learning about myself,
I've learned so much aboutpartnership and a relationship
(10:15):
and respect and trust andcommunication.
And then I realized that'stranslated into how we parent
our kids, how we show up forthem, how we communicate with
them, how we create thisopenness and this reciprocated
respect for each other, and thatnone of this has ever been easy
.
When I say all this, I don'tmean like it's just been an easy
(10:38):
journey.
I just mean that it's all beensomething that we've worked
through, just mean that it's allbeen something that we've
worked through, and a lot of theways that we've worked through,
some of the things that we'veencountered, have helped us.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
When we encounter new things, we've been tools that
you pick up along the way right.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
There's been a preparedness, or more of a
readiness, by letting thesethings really sink in as a
framework or a way to approachthings in life, and that then
bled into the choices that wemade about my career and
starting a business and way backwhen balancing being a
(11:16):
stay-at-home mom and wanting tostill have my career, and how
and when that went off the railsbecause I didn't have these
tools, I didn't have thisframework or the maturity level,
quite honestly, to reallyunderstand who I was and where I
was at that time.
So you asked the question abouthow do these things all play
together?
How did it just end up that way?
Well, I'm just literally in themost raw form, sharing my life.
(11:41):
Something challenging aboutwriting this book because it's a
memoir and it's a manual isthat just because things happen
doesn't make them interesting.
You know, there's a lot that isin this book.
There's a lot that is notbecause not everything is super
helpful in a in a book like this, you know, for for someone to
(12:05):
read, and that another thingthat I had to continuously tell
myself along the way was thatjust because I didn't put it in
the book doesn't mean it didn'thappen or that it isn't true.
It's just I had to carefullypick and choose what I wanted to
share because I wanted it tomeet people where they are in
their life.
(12:25):
This book is about me, but itisn't about me at all.
So the evolution of writing itfor me then turned into oh man,
this is actually for everybodyelse.
It gives me chills.
I'm such a nerd, but it's trueand it's really one of the only
things that's kept me going andkeeps me hanging on to why I'm
(12:46):
releasing this in the firstplace, Because if I get too far
ahead of myself and I make itabout me, I am scared to death.
If I'm just being honest, youknow.
I'm human.
Yeah, but when I make sure thatI keep at the forefront the why
and that it's for everyone else,it's not quite as scary.
(13:07):
Yeah.
And it puts me back on theright path of doing.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
doing this, releasing this, and also in a world where
there's so many experts.
That's not the vibe here, it'snot your vibe of your book.
It's, you know, my vibe.
Yes, we've figured some thingsout and yes, we've been through
some shitty stuff and, yes, wepulled through, and some stuff
(13:33):
not so much, and I mean, but thewhole tone of this is not like.
Listen to me, I have.
The only way this is how itgoes and that's also refreshing
too is like it's not.
The tone of it is.
I feel like I'm hanging outwith my cool aunt.
You know what I mean.
Like if, if you're, if you'rereading this book, you're going
(13:55):
to be like again.
I'm trying not to be thecharacter in the story, but like
if someone's reading it's likeIf you don't do it this way, you
fail.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
It's meant to be expertise by experience.
And sometimes that experienceand the expertise that comes out
(14:24):
of it is wrong, and I'm notafraid to share that, because
I've made many turns in my lifethat have ended up being a wrong
turn and I've had to determinethen, okay, how do I go forward?
Which, what direction do I go?
And it was really important tome for that to be the tone of
(14:45):
the book, because I I'm stillfiguring it out as well.
I just know that some of thethings that I have figured out
thus far continuously helped mewhen I get stuck now.
Yeah.
And I know that that can befreeing for other people who are
suffering in silence withthings that they aren't sure how
to approach or who to talk toabout it or what to do.
(15:06):
Right.
Because it's scary for everyone.
It's not just scary for me toshare this, it's scary for
everyone to face it.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, you got goosebumps.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I know I could cry.
I've got to walk the tissues.
Get them out, let's go I feellike this year you've been
interviewing me a lot and I justam not sure how I feel about
this, because you know I'musually the one in the interview
seat.
But well, a lot of thingshappening and I'm learning a lot
about myself every single day,especially this year, as I'm
facing bigger, scarier, excitingbig stuff yeah things, but you
(15:41):
know, that's I.
I just keep reminding myselfthat this is one what you hoped
for to be at this spot where youhave what you dreamed about
physically have a book in yourhand, but also um, you know how
you grow and I, I just want tocontinue to grow every single
day, and sometimes that meansdoing often.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Usually that means doing really scary things when
you don't want to well, andthat's what's cool about this is
, this is a book that if someoneagain, I don't want to give
people unsolicited advice, butif someone came to me and said,
hey, I'm kind of in a bad spot,I'm kind of stuck with this or
with work, or I've got, you know, relationship issues, it's like
(16:26):
this is is the perfect thing togive to somebody or any sort of
life transition, or, you know,because it's a story of bravery,
transition.
Or you know, because it's astory of bravery, you know
encouragement, you know taking achance and, I think, knowing
that as humans weover-exaggerate the negative 90%
(16:49):
and underestimate theoptimistic side.
A lot of times we makedecisions fear-based that are
grossly wrong to stay safe, tokeep us safe, but they're the
wrong decision because it'sbased out of fear, not that deep
.
Knowing that you know what Ican do this, I'm going to bet on
me this time.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And that's definitely what this story is about.
I remove myself.
That fear feels so real in themoment it's really hard to
discern that it's different Onthe book, just about the story
you mentioned.
It's a love story, it's aredemption story, all of the
things that you said.
It's also, in my opinion, areminder that we're all on our
(17:33):
own path.
So, even though our story, ourlove story, and where the
characters in the book ended upturning out the way that it has,
doesn't mean that if the reader, if their life or their choices
haven't ended up that way, itdoesn't mean that they won't or
that all is lost.
It's you know.
I feel it's important tomention that because I don't
(17:55):
want someone to feel like, wellgreat, I recently divorced, so
your book's not going to help mea whole lot because I wasn't
able to save or salvage orrepair my marriage.
It's not about that.
I just want to make that veryclear, that it's not just for
people who are saving theirmarriage or just for people who
use alcohol or substances as away to cope with things, because
(18:20):
we talk about that stuff a lot.
It's a major theme of the bookbut it's for anyone, wherever
they are or whatever theirrelationship status is or
whatever their coping mechanismis.
It's really about being curious, yeah.
It's about reflecting andhaving the courage to say I'm
(18:41):
going to question these things,because questions are power,
yeah, and questions areperspective yeah, so so let's
jump into that.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
So this is literally two books in one, because
there's a memoir, which is thejourney, the story, and then
there's the workbook, there'sthe manual, there's the like
how-to, which I freaking lovebecause I've read plenty of
books and like it's a greatmemoir, but you always are left
with like, yeah, but I wouldlove to know what your framework
(19:09):
was.
Or you read, you know, a manualand it's like you know, I'd
love to know the story behind it, but this is like all in one
which you know.
Hopefully people enjoy that asmuch as I've enjoyed reading it
too.
But what are your high level?
What's the concept here of thebook?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
So the framework.
I'm glad you asked the frameworkof the reset button is simple
and it may even feel reallysimple, but that's on purpose,
because again back to the expertthing it's hard to remember all
the psychology of your thoughtsand how to do this right.
It's not about doing it right,it's about just remembering
three simple R's Reflect, whereyou question things and you look
(19:49):
at everything objectively tofigure out like where am I, why
am I here, what do I want, whatdo I not want?
The curious part Reset that'spermission to say okay, now I
kind of understand where I'm at.
What do I need to dodifferently?
What changes can I make?
And I'm going to feel empoweredto do so.
(20:11):
I don't have to do things theway that I always have just
because that's the way that Iwas conditioned, or that's what
I've picked up somewhere, orthat's what I've seen as my
example, or that's what's alwaysworked and I'm clinging to it
because I'm afraid to dosomething different.
Reset, permission.
And then the reinvention iskind of the good part.
It's where you get to show upin this new version of yourself
(20:33):
and start the 3R process allover again, really, because it's
a never-ending evolution ofdoing it as many times as you
need to and as you want to, aslife throws curveballs at you,
to navigate what's happening andmake sure that you stay in
alignment with who you reallyare without getting lost or
(20:54):
feeling stuck so the resetbutton is simple Reflect, reset
and reinvent yourself over andover and over again.
Hit it.
Hit the reset button as manytimes as you need.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
That's awesome Tweet tweet.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
So it's simple, but it's on purpose, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
That's awesome and I think a lot of people will get
that.
I mean, that makes sense.
It's something that you canapply right away to any aspect
of your life, any area of yourlife parenting work.
For me, it seems like this.
This last frontier is like myhow I talk to myself.
Yeah.
You know, I mean when you'rebuilding and building, building,
(21:34):
building, and you're, andyou're doing all these things.
You're, you're so focused ondoing these external things and
I'm sure a lot of people outthere can relate to that You're
busy, you're too busy to thinkabout yourself, little old me,
you know, and you're doing allthese things.
But I find myself personally ina spot where I'm like doing the
(21:55):
three hours for myself and likewhy do I think that way, why do
I view that differently thanthis?
Or?
And?
And really investigating that.
And that's where my work hasbeen lately, you know, again,
just applying these things realtime.
It's a never ending.
It's just like.
(22:17):
It's like someone that likes totinker and do do household
projects, like going around yourhouse and looking like, oh,
that that needs trimmed up, thatneeds fixed, that could use it.
You know it's.
It's your whole life can beconstantly be, uh, under
improvement, and there's noshame in that.
Like we're not running aroundtrying to act perfect or act
like we've got it all figuredout, far from it.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Far from it.
But here's the stuff that'shelped us this far, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, the reset button book is broken down into
sections.
Yeah, with the manual three r'sat the end of each section.
Yeah, so what I've tried to doat the end of each section is
give you some starting pointswith the reflect, some questions
to ask yourself, yeah, as thereader, about yourself.
(23:06):
The key to those questions isbrutal honesty, even when it
sucks, because the answers tothose questions are often, if
you're being brutally honest,not easy to face when you find
yourself stuck or unhappy orunsure or just have this feeling
(23:27):
inside of like resentment why,why do I feel this way?
Everything's great.
Why am I still feelingunresolved about something?
And you know, those questionsare sometimes a big smack in the
(23:47):
face, honestly, if you answerthem with truth, with your truth
, with where you are in yourlife, and then the reset gives
some new ideas just to spark,you know, a jumping off point,
because sometimes you find thoseanswers and you're like, oh
shit.
Yeah.
What am I supposed to do now?
So the reset part of eachsection gives some ideas, and
then the reinvention part isreally for inspiration, to say
(24:11):
like this is what has kind ofhappened in our life since doing
these things and what I'vefound that you might find as a
continuing residual effect rightthe reset ripple effect in your
life.
Yeah, and that's real yeah,it's real.
I I've, along the way of writingthis, reverted back to these
(24:31):
three r's so many times I can'teven tell you, and I still do,
almost every single day.
And now it's just.
This framework has become partof, like, my own inner narrative
.
Like you said, this is what Ihear in my head now.
On the cover of the bookthere's an image of arrows and
they go in a circle, and someonepointed out to me once or as we
were writing this book anddesigning the cover.
(24:53):
You know I have to bring thisup because it bothers me that
when you're hitting the resetbutton, you're not making the
same choices over and over andover again.
You're making different choices.
So it feels like the arrowsshould be shooting out all over
the place, and I couldn't agreemore, except the concept of the
image is that it never ends.
It's a constant cycle ofhitting the reset button.
(25:16):
I love both perspectives of thatbecause I can see how it plays
in, but that image to me meansand stands as a reminder that it
just you just go round andround, and not round and round
like chasing your tail, butround and round, and there's
never an ending to this ideathat you can restart round and
round and there's never anending yeah to this idea that
(25:37):
you can restart, reinvent.
You know, that's great.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, yeah, because I think is, as humans, we love to
have certainty.
That's why we love sports,because there's a finite winner
and a loser, you know, but inlife really, it's not.
You don't just get it right andthat's it.
It it's a constant.
You're always doing it.
You always show up every day.
It's not like you just do itone time and well, I figured
(26:00):
that out and now I can move onand never have to deal with that
again.
It's like this is going to showup every day in your life until
you deal with that problem, andthis is a great way to help
people maybe tackle somethingthat's just been the elephant in
the room their whole life andlike I don't even know where to
begin.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, I talk a lot about therapy in the book
because it's one of the toolsthat we used when we were having
trouble in our relationship,but also as individuals.
Even during the writing processI went back to therapy, you
know, because writing this, asyou mentioned, has been
therapeutic and things that Ithought I had already kind of
worked through resurfaced in adifferent way, and so it's kind
(26:43):
of back to what you just said.
It's never ending and youreally just evolve as a person
and then kind of find theserepeating patterns until you
actually get to the bottom ofthem.
One of my biggest fears isjudgment out of this book,
because when you write a memoir,I mean I'm exposing some of the
ugliest, most embarrassing,most shameful things that I've
(27:07):
ever experienced in my life.
So you worry about judgment,but again, that's when I make it
about me.
And also, you know, one of thethings that I've had to
continuously remind myself aboutthat is that and this is for
everyone to remind themselveswhen they feel judged or when
they don't see eye to eye withsomeone is that a lot of times,
(27:28):
judgment is coming from someoneelse's triggers.
They're responding to you orreacting to you based on how it
makes them feel about somethingthey've experienced in their own
life, not necessarily about youas a person.
That's a theme as I revisit,releasing this that this fear of
being judged.
(27:49):
It's real and I will be judged,and I'm okay with that because I
know that the judgment isn'tnecessarily about who I am today
.
It might be about who I was orthe things that I have done in
my past, but or also, and mostlikely, about the person and
what they've experienced intheir own life, because we tend
(28:11):
to view outside things throughour own lens and our own
experiences, and so that's beenvery helpful for me and I know
that can be helpful for others,in a way of like freeing
themselves from judgment as well.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
The other thing just to touch on is that in writing a
memoir, it involves the peoplethat you love.
So in releasing this book, I'vehad to have some hard
conversations with the peoplethat I love, you know our kids,
our parents and that sucks.
There's no like easy way to sayit.
I'm trying to find an eloquentword, but the word is just it
(28:47):
sucks.
Because you never want to hurtor disappoint someone.
All you can ask for in thatmoment and sharing is for them
to understand that you'reexpressing yourself in the way
that you experienced what wasgoing on in your life at that
time and how that might haveimpacted your relationship with
them at that time, or how thatmight impact their relationship
(29:10):
with you now, as you've grownand changed as a person and I
know for people, change is veryscary and one of the reasons for
that is because of that verysame reason.
So the reason I bring that upis that I'm experiencing it.
Even back to the I don't haveit all figured out.
I'm experiencing it now,releasing a book that I wrote
(29:32):
about recognizing these cyclesin your life.
So, again back to the.
It's never ending, but all wecan hope for is to understand it
better, to stay curious, toalways be making decisions that
help us feel like we're mending,resolving, evolving and
continuing the cycle.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
So when's the book come out?
May?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
20th May, 20th come out May 20th.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
May 20th, thursday, may 20th.
How do we get it?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
It will be available in paperback, e-book and
hardcover on Amazon.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, when we say that, it's like, oh my God, it's
so exciting, and then all myself-doubt rushes into yeah, but
don't get too excited.
Yeah, but yeah but, um, I I dohope you'll grab a coffee copy.
I I do believe in the power ofthe framework and the
relatability of the life lessonsand stories.
(30:30):
I know that so many people willsee themselves in our story and
our lives, from my childhood tohow we met and you know, started
our young adult life with kidsand the balancing act of kids
and career and all of the thingsthat we've faced since and what
we did to get honest and decideto turn it around, turn the
(30:51):
ship around.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, I'm excited for everyone to read it and you're
going to just be like, oh mygosh, wow.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I hope so.
I hope that people seethemselves enough to be able to
lend some compassion tothemselves, to the people that
they love, and feel courageousand brave enough and inspired
enough and empowered enough tosay I got this, this is the one
life that I get, and I'm notgoing to carry around this big,
(31:23):
heavy backpack full of shame andwhat I should have been doing
for everybody else anymore.
I'm going to start makingdecisions for me.
I choose me today.
Yep.
All right.
Well, thanks for asking meabout the book.
I'm still a little squirmyabout it and a little squirmy in
this position Tied behind apillow I know it's my comfort
(31:44):
pillow and thank you all forbeing here.
We have new episodes of theCameo Show every Wednesday.
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