September 24, 2025 • 29 mins
Have you ever felt like an outsider because you don't have a massive social circle or aren't constantly surrounded by people? You're not alone. This raw, unfiltered conversation tackles the uncomfortable truth about community in our social media-driven world.
We're challenging the notion that bigger is always better when it comes to our connections. Community doesn't need to look like packed events or extensive networks to be meaningful. Sometimes, it's found in the quiet moments of deep connection with just one person. As Greg vulnerably shares, "I've always felt like something's wrong with me, that I don't have a big community," many of us have silently wrestled with the same doubts.
Through personal stories and thoughtful reflection, we explore how life stages naturally affect our communities, and why that's perfectly okay. Greg's experience building intimate musical collaborations reveals how powerful one-on-one connections can be, creating ripple effects that extend far beyond what's visible on the surface. These small connections often hold more meaning than the larger, more visible communities we're taught to pursue.
Social media has redefined community in both beautiful and harmful ways. While it connects us with like-minded individuals we might never have encountered otherwise, it also creates unrealistic expectations when we compare our own communities to what we see online. We discuss how to navigate this tension and find authentic connection on your own terms.
As Cameo shares her journey of releasing her book and feeling pressured to build community "the right way," she reveals the freedom found in authenticity: "I don't have to play that part anymore. I want to just be me." This sentiment echoes throughout our conversation—community isn't about following a formula but creating connections that matter to you.
Listen now to discover why "it doesn't have to be loud to be powerful" and how to build meaningful community your way. Share your thoughts with us about what community means to you and how you've found connection in unexpected places.
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Hello and welcome to the Cameo Show.
I'm your host, cameo, and weare joined by my husband and
co-host, hi Greg.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hi, I'm the co-host.
Hi, Greg.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
It's just never going to feel right, to say my
husband and co-host, mr GregBraun.
It just always feels weird.
So today I switched it up alittle bit, a little more low
key.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You can just talk to me like you do at home, you know
, when the camera's not on.
Hey, hey, dummy.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I don't call you dummy, I know, you know
sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
No, honestly, just don't call me late for dinner.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Was that your dad?
Joke, no oh.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
God Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
We're just getting warmed up.
Terrible, no, oh.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
God, okay, because that was terrible.
We're just getting warmed up.
Terrible, terrible.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Sorry, but can you please give us a dad joke.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, listen, I always like to kick things off
with a really awkward laugh withy'all.
I wanted to start aprofessional hide-and-seek team,
but the problem is, goodplayers are hard to find, and
that reminds me of a time thatwe played hide and seek one time
and I kept hiding in the samespot.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
You remember that time I don't?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
The kids were little, was it?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
here or the other house.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I think it was at the other house, your dad was there
too.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
God, I can just hear him giggling, it just doesn't
even matter.
I can just hear him giggling,just doesn't even matter.
I can just hear him cacklingtwo of my dad.
I, you know they say you likemarry your dad or you marry your
mom, or whatever.
I always thought, oh, that'sweird.
I married my dad, like I.
Literally the two of you arethe same person in so many ways.
It's's weird, and one of theways that probably the most
(02:17):
amazing way is that you bothjust you, just giggle.
I, you guys, will sit at thekitchen counter when you're
together, I don't even know whatwas said, and you'll just be
giggling and it's like you justgiggle at each other, giggling.
You do that with our friend,you do that with John too, and
it's like I don't even knowwhat's happening in this.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Like your own language.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
It's the language of laughter.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Very good, did you just make that up?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I did.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Wow, you should like trademark, that shit.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
All right, it's kind of in line with what we're
talking about today the power ofcommunity.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, man.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
But I want to talk about it and redefine what it
means, because I feel like whenwe think of community, we have
this idea in our head that it'sa hundred people at an event or
you know.
The running community comes tomind, like you know, when you go
to races, and it's a greatcommunity to be a part of.
I mean, I haven't been a partof it in a really long time, but
you know, you get this vibe themusic community, whatever, like
(03:17):
it doesn't matter, but just amassive network of people.
But I think what we were justtalking about recently and
what's really starting to sinkin and and hit me, is that
community can also look like aquiet moment of connection.
And it's not really about scale,it's about meaningfulness.
(03:38):
It must just be.
I'm getting older.
Everything to me at this pointin my life seems to keep coming
back to meaningfulness.
How meaningful is that to me?
Not how much can I do or howmany friends can I have, but
like what means the most?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Is it age?
Is it awareness?
What is it?
I don't know, it doesn't matter, I'm happy about it.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Because it really becomes clearer than what
doesn't belong.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I mean, it's part of the process of evaluating your
life from a very, you know, newperspective of is this in
alignment with the direction Iwant to go, and is this what I
want for myself?
Because I know for me, like Ilook at the last five years and
I'm like, wait a minute, thatwas five years ago and it feels
(04:32):
like yesterday.
And I'm sure, wait a minute,that was five years ago and it
feels like yesterday.
And I'm sure you know, ifyou're listening out there, you
can, you can relate to that.
Like time is just blowing by,it's, it's, it's unbelievable
how fast.
And if you talk to an olderperson that's getting up there
in years there, that's what theywould say.
Like it just goes so fast, youdon't even realize.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
So I think, looking at life through that perspective
, you don't have time then foryou know things that just you
don't see a future with, soyou're just like it's all killer
, no filler, all killer, nofiller, and I'm sorry you know
you're just like, but you justcannot.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
You just cannot have any other way.
If you want to like, yeah, livewith intention, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I feel bad saying that sometimes because I don't
want it to be receivedincorrectly by someone who maybe
I'm not as close with that Iused to be, you know, and that's
just again, awareness and memaking sure that I'm I'm not
trying to be an asshole or behurtful, be very mindful of
other people's emotions, but alot of times that's like
situational and it's not reallyabout the person necessarily,
(05:35):
it's just kind of what hashappened.
But then there are moments whenit's like this is not something
that I want to pursue, thisenergy does not match.
We are off.
So you know, I'm I'm also veryaware of that, I'm very mindful
of that when I say all killer,no filler, and joke about it,
specifically when we talk aboutpeople, because I care about
(05:56):
people and it's.
You know, relationships aren't.
They're fluid, they're notalways going to be the same
throughout life and differentphases and stages of life, and
that doesn't mean that someonedoesn't mean something to you or
that they're filler.
It just means that maybe it's alittle off in this moment with
regard to time and energy andresources.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yes, and it's okay.
It's okay.
That's part of growing as aperson, becoming more and more
authentically who you are.
I'll give you a great example.
Well, let me first say this are.
I'll give you a great example.
Well, here, let me first saythis even if someone was part of
the journey and they're not anylonger, and they're not part of
(06:39):
the day to day or the month tomonth or the year to year, but
you know, if you saw him withthe grocery store, what's up,
but that's okay.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
That was my what's up .
That wasn't like.
That wasn't like peace out, seeyou later.
That was like what's up, butsince I didn't say it, it might
have looked like bye.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
But the reality is and I'll tie this to mentors I
have had some amazing mentors inmy life.
Some of them didn't even knowthey were mentors to me.
They were just doing them asbosses, people that have showed
me how to do something.
(07:14):
You should outgrow your mentors.
If someone's still your mentorafter 10 years, you're not
growing.
You know what I mean.
Like that's just a generalizedway to say it.
Of course, if they're growingand you're growing, but the
natural progression is you'regoing to like I know for me,
like I've learned some thingsfrom people and then you maybe
(07:35):
go to a different company, orthey go to a different company
or they.
You know, life, life keeps going, but that is okay and it's.
There's nothing to feel badabout there.
And it's like during that phaseof life when you were here,
this worked for this, but thatdoesn't mean it has to work for
this.
And, like you mentionedfriendships and maybe they're on
a different path and adifferent journey and that's
(07:57):
okay.
But you know, we still root forthem, we still care about them,
it's just.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
It's just we're on a different mind, we're like
almost empty nesters and we havefriends who have, like kids
starting kindergarten.
We clearly have different time,commitments and a space in our
lives to do different things.
And then we have friends whoalso are in the same spot we're
in and we can spend more timetogether than we have in the
past when our kids were little,because we have more time and
(08:22):
space and capacity.
Like it's a it's notnecessarily a negative thing and
I'm glad we're talking aboutthat because I feel like,
regarding mentors or like wetalk a lot about, when we quit
drinking, you change your people, places and things.
Mentors, or like we talk a lotabout, when we quit drinking,
you change your people, placesand things.
That's not meant to be hurtful,it's just meant to say, like
changes all around you.
It's happening at all times anda lot of times as you're
(08:43):
growing and evolving, like yousaid and I'm, I feel like should
is a dirty word, I don't likethe shoulds, but you should kind
of have different people inyour life If you're changing, if
you're growing and evolving.
This idea of community that Iwant to talk about kind of
redefining, has been establishedby social media, and I mean
(09:07):
that in two ways, two very polaropposite ways.
Fucking awesome, because thepositive side of that is that
you have the ability to connectwith people that you wouldn't
have otherwise in ways that youwould have never.
So the power of communitythrough social media is vast and
you can learn so many thingsand you can find your people and
(09:27):
you find shared interest andinformation and it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, you can get deep.
You can find people that arereally into the things that
you're really into, whereasbefore you you would have never
found that person.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, Especially if you're in a small community like
not community like we'retalking about, but like like
niche, literally, that you love.
Well, but I mean, like if youlive in an area that's kind of
small, like we, grew up in smalltowns and like rural what you
see is what you get if you'renot exposed to other things, and
social media opens that up in areally beautiful and powerful
(10:00):
way.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
But here's the polar opposite.
It also has become this thingwhere we see, like, well, if I'm
not a part of that, or if I'mnot a part of this, or if I
don't as a thought leader or apodcast host, or if I don't do
it that way, then I'm not doingit right and I'm not a part of
anything, and I just want to saybullshit.
It's not true.
And the reason we're havingthis conversation in the first
(10:23):
place and why I think it's soimportant to bring to the table,
is because we just had thisconversation offline in the car
on the way home from schooldrop-off the other day.
This idea that, like you, greg,in particular and I'm just
going to like call you out hereand give the real life example
Feel free.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Feel free.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
You're doing this amazing thing that doesn't look
like anything on social media.
No offense, it's not.
Look at me and all my buddiesand we're playing music together
.
It's not you're playing outlive in a band, or you're in a
band, for that matter, which Imean you are, you're in a band
with me and technically kind oflike others too, but but that's
what I'm getting at.
You wouldn't know that if youwere just judging you and your
(11:04):
community through social media,and me too, for that matter.
But we're talking about you, sowould you stop making it about
you?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah.
Why do you keep doing that?
No?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
sorry.
Well, it's just a maybe it's a.
The example is that it's sorelatable I can't help it, do
you?
know what I mean, Like I hopethat this is what translates to
whoever's listening to this isthat you don't have to look like
you're doing any of these bigcommunity events or even
involved in anything like atschool, for example, to feel
(11:34):
like you're a part of community.
So let me get back.
I'll land the plane here.
I promise there is a point.
You are building this beautiful, intimate community of
musicians people from your past,new people and it's quiet and
what's happening is you'rereaching out to these guys as
(11:56):
you create songs and as yourecreate songs and saying, hey,
would you like to play bass onthis song?
Or hey, I've got this guitarsolo that you would shred, and
you're helping to not only bringthem some spark and energy and
bring them to life in that waythat might be lying dormant in
(12:18):
their life, because these aremusicians who have gotten older
and life takes over, and now Igot a job and a family and all
the things that keep me fromplaying music in the first place
, like I used to, but you'realso then bringing everyone
together and so then that startsforming these new bonds, like
you've introduced so-and-so toso-and-so, who now they go to
(12:39):
the studio and record somethingtogether, or so-and-so to
so-and-so from your past,present, future, whatever, and
no one would know it, and it'sstill, if not more than still,
like a very powerful display ofcommunity.
Yeah, and so redefining that inthat way can be community.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And so redefining that in that way can be helpful.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Especially when you feel like I'm not doing it right
.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, yeah, comparison is the thief of joy,
as they say.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Wait, who said that?
I don't know, somebody said it.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I just said it.
I think I just said it.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
We'll go with that, Okay go.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
No, but yeah, I can't take credit for that because
that's not my thing.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I know it just bothers me that I don't know who
it is, because I do know who itis.
It's like on the tip of mytongue Anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Anyhoots.
Up until really recently, I'vealways felt like something's
wrong with me, that I don't havea big community.
Like what?
Why don't I have a bigcommunity?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
like why aren't people knocking down my door to
hang out with me?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
again inviting me left and right, this is so so
very vulnerable for me to tojust kind of do say this, but
but it's truth.
Like, why don't I have, youknow, a community like that and
a lot of it is.
You have to lead the way.
And so, like I have noticedthat, instead of sitting back
(14:11):
and waiting for people to reachout to me to do whatever, or if
I don't hear from people thatthey're just my negative mindset
trails to, they're not, youknow, supporting me or you know
whatever.
And what I'm finding out is, asI reach out to people, I'm like
hey, do you want to collaborateon this song?
Or you want to do, you know, dowith this?
(14:33):
The answer has been a.
Is it resounding?
No, resounding, it's been aresounding hell.
Yes.
One of my boys said I neededthis.
This is like I've been kind ofgone rudderless, like this is
going to give me something tofocus on or be fun, and it's
like, well, wait a minute.
That's my purpose here.
I'm bringing this out in peopleand I naturally, in that way,
(14:58):
like I always love to encouragepeople to be the best versions
of themselves and like shootyour shot and go for it.
I mean, I'm just a naturalcheerleader kind of energy.
You're a connector.
I love it, you are so great atconnecting people.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I love it Outside of you even.
Like you know this person needsa job and I know so-and-so and
like you love to do that.
You're just so naturally greatat doing that and you're also
naturally great at this type ofthing, the collaboration and
connection that we're talkingabout, but in a way that you
maybe haven't like acknowledgedor accepted.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Well, I think because , again, comparison being the
thief of joy, I feel like if Idon't have events and big
glamorous glitz and showy stuffgoing on, that it doesn't matter
.
And what I'm finding out islike one-on-one connection with
a song, or creating somethinglike that is powerful with a
(15:53):
song, or creating something likethat is powerful, and it also
bleeds over to, like you know,my friend circle.
I'm not like I don't have abunch of friends.
I know a lot of people but I'mclose with very few of them,
like really close, you know, andit's like there's nothing wrong
with me.
That's, that's good.
(16:13):
Like you know, it's okay.
It's okay, it's just how Ichoose to to be, you know, and
it's feels natural to be thatway.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
And that's different than maybe how you felt earlier.
And again we go back to age.
You know it's justmeaningfulness trumps quantity,
quality trumps quantity, like aswe've gotten older it feels
that way, and again, not in amean or a negative way, but just
like Greg, many years ago you,you did feel like you needed to
(16:46):
have a large circle of friendsthat that was somehow validating
, to like your identity.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Whether we're talking about being, you know, business
owners in the community.
I've got to be known.
I've got people who have toknow who I am to want to work
with me.
Or back in the day, when I didplay music live and I was
promoting shows and like come tothe sea, it was a popularity
contest.
I'm 47 now and it's like Ithere's still something inside
(17:13):
me pushes me a bit, and it'ssocial media.
I see it in my feed.
I see all these people with ame pushes me a bit and it's
social media.
I see it in my feed.
I see all these people with abunch of people around them and
it's like I don't have to do itthat way to feel good and
impactful and make a difference.
Maybe my my zone is much, muchsmaller and concentrated and my
targets just very small, youknow.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, I can say that I can relate.
So thank you for being veryvulnerable.
Like you said about saying allof this, I can relate in a kind
of a different way, like I am alone wolf.
I've always been a lone wolfand I used to feel like
something was wrong with me inmy younger years because I
didn't have I knew a lot ofpeople.
(17:57):
I still do know a lot of peopleand I have a lot of friends.
I'm friends with everybody.
I would be friends witheverybody on the planet for the
most part, unless you're a realasshole.
Yeah, and there are some, so wecan just cross them off the list
.
But I have very few closefriends my entire life, and the
ones that were close 20 yearsago are still the women that I
(18:18):
would call right now if I neededto, if I needed something, and
I know they would be there and Ibarely talked to them at this
point.
Again back to that life stagething.
But for a really long time Ifelt like there was something
wrong with me for not valuinghaving more close friends and
completely dismissing the factthat the close friends that I do
have are really all that I need.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
And you know I I think that social media only
magnifies that for us.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
And so that back to that, like it's really beautiful
but also shitty, you know, justmakes you feel like you're
missing out.
FOMO, like was FOMO a real thingbefore social media, I don't
know and that's whether it'sbusiness, social, school, music,
whatever.
It's everything.
So if you're listening and thislands with you because you're
(19:07):
like, oh God, I feel the sameway, like I don't want to pay to
be a part of this group, Idon't want to go to these events
, I don't.
You don't have to.
You can do it your way, likeyou can do it in a way that's
meaningful to you.
I promise that there are peopleout there that connect with you
directly in the very same way.
Yeah, I haven't found them yet,you will.
(19:28):
But to Greg's point, you kindof have to put yourself out
there.
Yes, throw a line in the water,because, greg, when you send
those texts to these guys thatmaybe you haven't even talked to
very often in over the years,and they're like hell yeah and
excited, and they feel like thisis exactly what I needed.
They also then share with yousomething else, like hey, I
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remember this time and it made amajor impact on me in a way
that connects you even deeper.
That would have never just comeup out of nowhere.
Nobody was going to text youand call you Very few people.
I shouldn't say nobody, likenobody, never, always.
Those are buzzwords right, butthese people were highly
unlikely to just text you out ofthe blue and say, hey, do you
(20:13):
remember this time 25 years agothat this happened?
I just want you to know that itreally had an impact on me.
But you threw the line in thewater and you opened the door
and then they felt like, oh myGod, I just need you to know
this, you mean something to meand connection formed.
That's, that's community.
Yeah that's community.
It's not about how many peopleyou can gather together.
(20:33):
And no offense to communitygatherings and community events.
Those are all fun and all havetheir place.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
But it's also about how deeply you connect down.
Put it on a t-shirt, whateveryou want to do with it.
Also, let it sink in, becausethere's no room for like feeling
like an outsider in this worldwhere you can connect with so
many people.
(21:00):
You just have to make sure thatyou're doing it in a way that's
important to you to you to you,not everybody else.
Look around, notice today whereyou spark community or where
someone else sparks the feelingof community in you.
This connection, Invitesomebody to collaborate, to go
(21:24):
for a walk, to brainstorm andrecognize that quiet connection
can be even deeper than big,loud connection.
It doesn't have to be loud tobe powerful.
Don't underestimate the smallthings.
The small things have giantripple effects.
You can write that down too.
(21:45):
If this resonated with you, I'mso glad because I'm so tired of
not talking about these thingsthat we all feel from what we
see on a regular basis no more,Not this season of the Cameo
Show.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I was going to say this is coming at you real, real
time and no fluff, no, fluff.
I think it's because the book Imean the book's sitting behind
you, the reset button listen,you have been working on that
and the mental you knowroadblocks and hurdles to get
this it's out now.
So now you can be more in themoment and not have to tap dance
(22:23):
around things like let's go.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up.
Thank you, I was trying toclose down the show.
We'll get there.
We always close down, butsometimes we tangent.
And I would just like to saythat you're exactly right and
here's why, and like a littlebit more of a testament to what
we're talking about.
With regard to community andconnection, for the last five
years I've been working on thatbook behind me, the Reset Button
.
I'm very proud of it and it isout and it's landing and
(22:48):
connecting with people in theway that I had hoped.
But along that five-year periodof time, I was kind of like
playing a role of okay, I'm awriter, I'm going to be an
author, I'm a podcaster, I'm athought leader now, and so now I
need to do what thought leadersdo and I need to build this
community and we have, you knowwe'll get back to that, but I
(23:10):
need to build this community.
I probably need to buildcourses and I need to have this
event.
I need to do all these thingsbecause that's what everybody
else does, all these people thatare successful in that space.
That's what they do.
Oh, I'm starting to sweat.
Woo, okay.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
You're getting real now, folks.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
But here's what happened and this is raw.
I released the book it's beenthree months, almost three
months, exactly tomorrow as ofrecording right now and after I
released it, I kind of went darkand I shared this.
(23:45):
I've shared this on on thepodcast.
Just just a couple of weeks ago, if you've listened, it was
when we came back from being onbreak for a while.
I went a little bit darkbecause I realized that I had to
do that during that time tofinish the project.
I had to adopt that mindset tostay focused on what it was that
(24:07):
I wanted to finish andaccomplish with this book.
But when the book was done and Ihad a moment to come up for air
, I realized, like I love whatwe do here with the podcast and
this circles back to that momentabout like building community.
I love the people that show upand listen and send messages or
call and call us, our friendsand family, who who know us
(24:28):
personally and call us and belike hey, I just want you to
know.
That podcast episode meant alot to me for this reason and
this reason that gives megoosebumps.
So I love the community thatwe've built and that was on
purpose and I want it tocontinue to grow.
I want the book to do well, butI want it to do well because it
connects with people, notbecause I have some perfect
(24:49):
marketing scheme or I'm ineverybody's face about it all
the time.
So when I came up for air, Irealized I don't have to play
that part anymore.
Like I want to just be me,without the filter of.
This is what thought leaders doand this is how you act and
this is how you speak.
I want to be me.
Oh God, we're just.
This whole season is juststarting.
(25:10):
All these episodes feel liketherapy, so thank you all for
listening and I hope it makesyou feel like your own therapy
session as I work through my own.
But coming back up and saying Ijust want to be me brings us to
this moment of saying that'swhat community is to me.
It connects with people in away of like freeing them from
what everybody else thinks theyshould be or what everybody else
shows them they should be, andthat isn't limited to just the
(25:34):
people listening.
That's me too.
As the host, I want to spendtime with you and our kids every
minute I can.
I want to make music and I wantto be creative and I want to
connect with people that Ihaven't talked to in years
through DMs, who say, hey, youshared that on your story the
other day and I just want you toknow that since then, I started
(25:55):
thinking about this and westarted doing that and it's
really helped me.
And also here's a resource thatyou might find helpful.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, it's happening.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I don't, I don't.
I'm not trying to show up herein this space.
I never really was, but Idefinitely am not anymore trying
to show up in this space as,like I got it all figured out
I'm a thought leader.
Listen to me.
I know everything because Idon't.
I every day I wake up likeeverybody else, trying to figure
it out.
Whatever gets thrown at you,you're like holy shit, ok, this
(26:25):
is life.
Some days are great, some daysare rough.
You wake up, you do it againand you say, okay, well, there
went another monday in mylifetime.
If I'm lucky, I'll have xamount of mondays left, so I'm
not gonna bitch about it beingmonday ever again, kind of thing
.
You know what I mean?
mindset whoo coming in hotcoming in hot if you're still
here, we have episodes everywednesday and this is a.
(26:47):
This is what you're gettingthis year.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Real talk, real talk.
We're going to change it toreal talk.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Word up, real talk.
Whatever I mean the Cameo Show.
You know it's been around nowfor two and a half years and I
love the name the Cameo.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Show, Wow really.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Two and a half years.
Wow it started in my firstepisode.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
No way I don't even remember that when you were like
wow, time flies.
Wow.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
February of 2023 was where the first episodes that
dropped.
I didn't know what the hell Iwas doing.
I still don't.
I don't even know that I wouldkeep doing it.
But here we are and it justkeeps getting more and more real
, and I'm grateful everyfreaking time I see somebody
downloaded the episode orlistened to the episode or
shared the episode, because that, to me, means more than
(27:38):
anything.
It's not about the number, it'sabout whether or not it makes
an impact, and I mean that.
I mean that one more time.
I mean that.
So thank you for being herebeing part of the community.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
So thank you for being here, being part of the
community, god, you know, I gotone more thing.
I'm gonna close it down.
Close it down because we keep,you know and I just I really am
sweating.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Listen.
One more thing the wordcommunity.
I know that's what thisepisode's about and redefining
it, and I'm happy about that,but I gotta be honest, the word
community makes me puke in mymouth like a little bit every
time.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I hear it.
I'm just like it's overdone,yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Stop sing, build community.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
You're bugging me, but we love you and we thank you
for joining us.
And did I already say there'snew episodes every Wednesday?
Because there's new episodesevery Wednesday, you can like,
subscribe, follow, share, do allthe right things.
You know what I'm saying OnApple, spotify, youtube,
wherever you're listening.
Until next time.
Hello and welcome to the Cameo Show.
I'm your host, cameo, and weare joined by my husband and
co-host, hi Greg.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hi, I'm the co-host.
Hi, Greg.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
It's just never going to feel right, to say my
husband and co-host, mr GregBraun.
It just always feels weird.
So today I switched it up alittle bit, a little more low
key.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You can just talk to me like you do at home, you know
, when the camera's not on.
Hey, hey, dummy.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I don't call you dummy, I know, you know
sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
No, honestly, just don't call me late for dinner.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Was that your dad?
Joke, no oh.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
God Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
We're just getting warmed up.
Terrible, no, oh.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
God, okay, because that was terrible.
We're just getting warmed up.
Terrible, terrible.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Sorry, but can you please give us a dad joke.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, listen, I always like to kick things off
with a really awkward laugh withy'all.
I wanted to start aprofessional hide-and-seek team,
but the problem is, goodplayers are hard to find, and
that reminds me of a time thatwe played hide and seek one time
and I kept hiding in the samespot.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
You remember that time I don't?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
The kids were little, was it?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
here or the other house.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I think it was at the other house, your dad was there
too.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
God, I can just hear him giggling, it just doesn't
even matter.
I can just hear him giggling,just doesn't even matter.
I can just hear him cacklingtwo of my dad.
I, you know they say you likemarry your dad or you marry your
mom, or whatever.
I always thought, oh, that'sweird.
I married my dad, like I.
Literally the two of you arethe same person in so many ways.
It's's weird, and one of theways that probably the most
(02:17):
amazing way is that you bothjust you, just giggle.
I, you guys, will sit at thekitchen counter when you're
together, I don't even know whatwas said, and you'll just be
giggling and it's like you justgiggle at each other, giggling.
You do that with our friend,you do that with John too, and
it's like I don't even knowwhat's happening in this.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Like your own language.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
It's the language of laughter.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Very good, did you just make that up?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I did.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Wow, you should like trademark, that shit.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
All right, it's kind of in line with what we're
talking about today the power ofcommunity.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, man.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
But I want to talk about it and redefine what it
means, because I feel like whenwe think of community, we have
this idea in our head that it'sa hundred people at an event or
you know.
The running community comes tomind, like you know, when you go
to races, and it's a greatcommunity to be a part of.
I mean, I haven't been a partof it in a really long time, but
you know, you get this vibe themusic community, whatever, like
(03:17):
it doesn't matter, but just amassive network of people.
But I think what we were justtalking about recently and
what's really starting to sinkin and and hit me, is that
community can also look like aquiet moment of connection.
And it's not really about scale,it's about meaningfulness.
(03:38):
It must just be.
I'm getting older.
Everything to me at this pointin my life seems to keep coming
back to meaningfulness.
How meaningful is that to me?
Not how much can I do or howmany friends can I have, but
like what means the most?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Is it age?
Is it awareness?
What is it?
I don't know, it doesn't matter, I'm happy about it.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Because it really becomes clearer than what
doesn't belong.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I mean, it's part of the process of evaluating your
life from a very, you know, newperspective of is this in
alignment with the direction Iwant to go, and is this what I
want for myself?
Because I know for me, like Ilook at the last five years and
I'm like, wait a minute, thatwas five years ago and it feels
(04:32):
like yesterday.
And I'm sure, wait a minute,that was five years ago and it
feels like yesterday.
And I'm sure you know, ifyou're listening out there, you
can, you can relate to that.
Like time is just blowing by,it's, it's, it's unbelievable
how fast.
And if you talk to an olderperson that's getting up there
in years there, that's what theywould say.
Like it just goes so fast, youdon't even realize.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
So I think, looking at life through that perspective
, you don't have time then foryou know things that just you
don't see a future with, soyou're just like it's all killer
, no filler, all killer, nofiller, and I'm sorry you know
you're just like, but you justcannot.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
You just cannot have any other way.
If you want to like, yeah, livewith intention, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I feel bad saying that sometimes because I don't
want it to be receivedincorrectly by someone who maybe
I'm not as close with that Iused to be, you know, and that's
just again, awareness and memaking sure that I'm I'm not
trying to be an asshole or behurtful, be very mindful of
other people's emotions, but alot of times that's like
situational and it's not reallyabout the person necessarily,
(05:35):
it's just kind of what hashappened.
But then there are moments whenit's like this is not something
that I want to pursue, thisenergy does not match.
We are off.
So you know, I'm I'm also veryaware of that, I'm very mindful
of that when I say all killer,no filler, and joke about it,
specifically when we talk aboutpeople, because I care about
(05:56):
people and it's.
You know, relationships aren't.
They're fluid, they're notalways going to be the same
throughout life and differentphases and stages of life, and
that doesn't mean that someonedoesn't mean something to you or
that they're filler.
It just means that maybe it's alittle off in this moment with
regard to time and energy andresources.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yes, and it's okay.
It's okay.
That's part of growing as aperson, becoming more and more
authentically who you are.
I'll give you a great example.
Well, let me first say this are.
I'll give you a great example.
Well, here, let me first saythis even if someone was part of
the journey and they're not anylonger, and they're not part of
(06:39):
the day to day or the month tomonth or the year to year, but
you know, if you saw him withthe grocery store, what's up,
but that's okay.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
That was my what's up .
That wasn't like.
That wasn't like peace out, seeyou later.
That was like what's up, butsince I didn't say it, it might
have looked like bye.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
But the reality is and I'll tie this to mentors I
have had some amazing mentors inmy life.
Some of them didn't even knowthey were mentors to me.
They were just doing them asbosses, people that have showed
me how to do something.
(07:14):
You should outgrow your mentors.
If someone's still your mentorafter 10 years, you're not
growing.
You know what I mean.
Like that's just a generalizedway to say it.
Of course, if they're growingand you're growing, but the
natural progression is you'regoing to like I know for me,
like I've learned some thingsfrom people and then you maybe
(07:35):
go to a different company, orthey go to a different company
or they.
You know, life, life keeps going, but that is okay and it's.
There's nothing to feel badabout there.
And it's like during that phaseof life when you were here,
this worked for this, but thatdoesn't mean it has to work for
this.
And, like you mentionedfriendships and maybe they're on
a different path and adifferent journey and that's
(07:57):
okay.
But you know, we still root forthem, we still care about them,
it's just.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
It's just we're on a different mind, we're like
almost empty nesters and we havefriends who have, like kids
starting kindergarten.
We clearly have different time,commitments and a space in our
lives to do different things.
And then we have friends whoalso are in the same spot we're
in and we can spend more timetogether than we have in the
past when our kids were little,because we have more time and
(08:22):
space and capacity.
Like it's a it's notnecessarily a negative thing and
I'm glad we're talking aboutthat because I feel like,
regarding mentors or like wetalk a lot about, when we quit
drinking, you change your people, places and things.
Mentors, or like we talk a lotabout, when we quit drinking,
you change your people, placesand things.
That's not meant to be hurtful,it's just meant to say, like
changes all around you.
It's happening at all times anda lot of times as you're
(08:43):
growing and evolving, like yousaid and I'm, I feel like should
is a dirty word, I don't likethe shoulds, but you should kind
of have different people inyour life If you're changing, if
you're growing and evolving.
This idea of community that Iwant to talk about kind of
redefining, has been establishedby social media, and I mean
(09:07):
that in two ways, two very polaropposite ways.
Fucking awesome, because thepositive side of that is that
you have the ability to connectwith people that you wouldn't
have otherwise in ways that youwould have never.
So the power of communitythrough social media is vast and
you can learn so many thingsand you can find your people and
(09:27):
you find shared interest andinformation and it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, you can get deep.
You can find people that arereally into the things that
you're really into, whereasbefore you you would have never
found that person.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, Especially if you're in a small community like
not community like we'retalking about, but like like
niche, literally, that you love.
Well, but I mean, like if youlive in an area that's kind of
small, like we, grew up in smalltowns and like rural what you
see is what you get if you'renot exposed to other things, and
social media opens that up in areally beautiful and powerful
(10:00):
way.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
But here's the polar opposite.
It also has become this thingwhere we see, like, well, if I'm
not a part of that, or if I'mnot a part of this, or if I
don't as a thought leader or apodcast host, or if I don't do
it that way, then I'm not doingit right and I'm not a part of
anything, and I just want to saybullshit.
It's not true.
And the reason we're havingthis conversation in the first
(10:23):
place and why I think it's soimportant to bring to the table,
is because we just had thisconversation offline in the car
on the way home from schooldrop-off the other day.
This idea that, like you, greg,in particular and I'm just
going to like call you out hereand give the real life example
Feel free.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Feel free.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
You're doing this amazing thing that doesn't look
like anything on social media.
No offense, it's not.
Look at me and all my buddiesand we're playing music together
.
It's not you're playing outlive in a band, or you're in a
band, for that matter, which Imean you are, you're in a band
with me and technically kind oflike others too, but but that's
what I'm getting at.
You wouldn't know that if youwere just judging you and your
(11:04):
community through social media,and me too, for that matter.
But we're talking about you, sowould you stop making it about
you?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah.
Why do you keep doing that?
No?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
sorry.
Well, it's just a maybe it's a.
The example is that it's sorelatable I can't help it, do
you?
know what I mean, Like I hopethat this is what translates to
whoever's listening to this isthat you don't have to look like
you're doing any of these bigcommunity events or even
involved in anything like atschool, for example, to feel
(11:34):
like you're a part of community.
So let me get back.
I'll land the plane here.
I promise there is a point.
You are building this beautiful, intimate community of
musicians people from your past,new people and it's quiet and
what's happening is you'rereaching out to these guys as
(11:56):
you create songs and as yourecreate songs and saying, hey,
would you like to play bass onthis song?
Or hey, I've got this guitarsolo that you would shred, and
you're helping to not only bringthem some spark and energy and
bring them to life in that waythat might be lying dormant in
(12:18):
their life, because these aremusicians who have gotten older
and life takes over, and now Igot a job and a family and all
the things that keep me fromplaying music in the first place
, like I used to, but you'realso then bringing everyone
together and so then that startsforming these new bonds, like
you've introduced so-and-so toso-and-so, who now they go to
(12:39):
the studio and record somethingtogether, or so-and-so to
so-and-so from your past,present, future, whatever, and
no one would know it, and it'sstill, if not more than still,
like a very powerful display ofcommunity.
Yeah, and so redefining that inthat way can be community.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And so redefining that in that way can be helpful.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Especially when you feel like I'm not doing it right
.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, yeah, comparison is the thief of joy,
as they say.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Wait, who said that?
I don't know, somebody said it.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I just said it.
I think I just said it.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
We'll go with that, Okay go.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
No, but yeah, I can't take credit for that because
that's not my thing.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I know it just bothers me that I don't know who
it is, because I do know who itis.
It's like on the tip of mytongue Anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Anyhoots.
Up until really recently, I'vealways felt like something's
wrong with me, that I don't havea big community.
Like what?
Why don't I have a bigcommunity?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
like why aren't people knocking down my door to
hang out with me?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
again inviting me left and right, this is so so
very vulnerable for me to tojust kind of do say this, but
but it's truth.
Like, why don't I have, youknow, a community like that and
a lot of it is.
You have to lead the way.
And so, like I have noticedthat, instead of sitting back
(14:11):
and waiting for people to reachout to me to do whatever, or if
I don't hear from people thatthey're just my negative mindset
trails to, they're not, youknow, supporting me or you know
whatever.
And what I'm finding out is, asI reach out to people, I'm like
hey, do you want to collaborateon this song?
Or you want to do, you know, dowith this?
(14:33):
The answer has been a.
Is it resounding?
No, resounding, it's been aresounding hell.
Yes.
One of my boys said I neededthis.
This is like I've been kind ofgone rudderless, like this is
going to give me something tofocus on or be fun, and it's
like, well, wait a minute.
That's my purpose here.
I'm bringing this out in peopleand I naturally, in that way,
(14:58):
like I always love to encouragepeople to be the best versions
of themselves and like shootyour shot and go for it.
I mean, I'm just a naturalcheerleader kind of energy.
You're a connector.
I love it, you are so great atconnecting people.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I love it Outside of you even.
Like you know this person needsa job and I know so-and-so and
like you love to do that.
You're just so naturally greatat doing that and you're also
naturally great at this type ofthing, the collaboration and
connection that we're talkingabout, but in a way that you
maybe haven't like acknowledgedor accepted.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Well, I think because , again, comparison being the
thief of joy, I feel like if Idon't have events and big
glamorous glitz and showy stuffgoing on, that it doesn't matter
.
And what I'm finding out islike one-on-one connection with
a song, or creating somethinglike that is powerful with a
(15:53):
song, or creating something likethat is powerful, and it also
bleeds over to, like you know,my friend circle.
I'm not like I don't have abunch of friends.
I know a lot of people but I'mclose with very few of them,
like really close, you know, andit's like there's nothing wrong
with me.
That's, that's good.
(16:13):
Like you know, it's okay.
It's okay, it's just how Ichoose to to be, you know, and
it's feels natural to be thatway.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
And that's different than maybe how you felt earlier.
And again we go back to age.
You know it's justmeaningfulness trumps quantity,
quality trumps quantity, like aswe've gotten older it feels
that way, and again, not in amean or a negative way, but just
like Greg, many years ago you,you did feel like you needed to
(16:46):
have a large circle of friendsthat that was somehow validating
, to like your identity.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Whether we're talking about being, you know, business
owners in the community.
I've got to be known.
I've got people who have toknow who I am to want to work
with me.
Or back in the day, when I didplay music live and I was
promoting shows and like come tothe sea, it was a popularity
contest.
I'm 47 now and it's like Ithere's still something inside
(17:13):
me pushes me a bit, and it'ssocial media.
I see it in my feed.
I see all these people with ame pushes me a bit and it's
social media.
I see it in my feed.
I see all these people with abunch of people around them and
it's like I don't have to do itthat way to feel good and
impactful and make a difference.
Maybe my my zone is much, muchsmaller and concentrated and my
targets just very small, youknow.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, I can say that I can relate.
So thank you for being veryvulnerable.
Like you said about saying allof this, I can relate in a kind
of a different way, like I am alone wolf.
I've always been a lone wolfand I used to feel like
something was wrong with me inmy younger years because I
didn't have I knew a lot ofpeople.
(17:57):
I still do know a lot of peopleand I have a lot of friends.
I'm friends with everybody.
I would be friends witheverybody on the planet for the
most part, unless you're a realasshole.
Yeah, and there are some, so wecan just cross them off the list
.
But I have very few closefriends my entire life, and the
ones that were close 20 yearsago are still the women that I
(18:18):
would call right now if I neededto, if I needed something, and
I know they would be there and Ibarely talked to them at this
point.
Again back to that life stagething.
But for a really long time Ifelt like there was something
wrong with me for not valuinghaving more close friends and
completely dismissing the factthat the close friends that I do
have are really all that I need.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
And you know I I think that social media only
magnifies that for us.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
And so that back to that, like it's really beautiful
but also shitty, you know, justmakes you feel like you're
missing out.
FOMO, like was FOMO a real thingbefore social media, I don't
know and that's whether it'sbusiness, social, school, music,
whatever.
It's everything.
So if you're listening and thislands with you because you're
(19:07):
like, oh God, I feel the sameway, like I don't want to pay to
be a part of this group, Idon't want to go to these events
, I don't.
You don't have to.
You can do it your way, likeyou can do it in a way that's
meaningful to you.
I promise that there are peopleout there that connect with you
directly in the very same way.
Yeah, I haven't found them yet,you will.
(19:28):
But to Greg's point, you kindof have to put yourself out
there.
Yes, throw a line in the water,because, greg, when you send
those texts to these guys thatmaybe you haven't even talked to
very often in over the years,and they're like hell yeah and
excited, and they feel like thisis exactly what I needed.
They also then share with yousomething else, like hey, I
(19:52):
remember this time and it made amajor impact on me in a way
that connects you even deeper.
That would have never just comeup out of nowhere.
Nobody was going to text youand call you Very few people.
I shouldn't say nobody, likenobody, never, always.
Those are buzzwords right, butthese people were highly
unlikely to just text you out ofthe blue and say, hey, do you
(20:13):
remember this time 25 years agothat this happened?
I just want you to know that itreally had an impact on me.
But you threw the line in thewater and you opened the door
and then they felt like, oh myGod, I just need you to know
this, you mean something to meand connection formed.
That's, that's community.
Yeah that's community.
It's not about how many peopleyou can gather together.
(20:33):
And no offense to communitygatherings and community events.
Those are all fun and all havetheir place.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
But it's also about how deeply you connect down.
Put it on a t-shirt, whateveryou want to do with it.
Also, let it sink in, becausethere's no room for like feeling
like an outsider in this worldwhere you can connect with so
many people.
(21:00):
You just have to make sure thatyou're doing it in a way that's
important to you to you to you,not everybody else.
Look around, notice today whereyou spark community or where
someone else sparks the feelingof community in you.
This connection, Invitesomebody to collaborate, to go
(21:24):
for a walk, to brainstorm andrecognize that quiet connection
can be even deeper than big,loud connection.
It doesn't have to be loud tobe powerful.
Don't underestimate the smallthings.
The small things have giantripple effects.
You can write that down too.
(21:45):
If this resonated with you, I'mso glad because I'm so tired of
not talking about these thingsthat we all feel from what we
see on a regular basis no more,Not this season of the Cameo
Show.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I was going to say this is coming at you real, real
time and no fluff, no, fluff.
I think it's because the book Imean the book's sitting behind
you, the reset button listen,you have been working on that
and the mental you knowroadblocks and hurdles to get
this it's out now.
So now you can be more in themoment and not have to tap dance
(22:23):
around things like let's go.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up.
Thank you, I was trying toclose down the show.
We'll get there.
We always close down, butsometimes we tangent.
And I would just like to saythat you're exactly right and
here's why, and like a littlebit more of a testament to what
we're talking about.
With regard to community andconnection, for the last five
years I've been working on thatbook behind me, the Reset Button
.
I'm very proud of it and it isout and it's landing and
(22:48):
connecting with people in theway that I had hoped.
But along that five-year periodof time, I was kind of like
playing a role of okay, I'm awriter, I'm going to be an
author, I'm a podcaster, I'm athought leader now, and so now I
need to do what thought leadersdo and I need to build this
community and we have, you knowwe'll get back to that, but I
(23:10):
need to build this community.
I probably need to buildcourses and I need to have this
event.
I need to do all these thingsbecause that's what everybody
else does, all these people thatare successful in that space.
That's what they do.
Oh, I'm starting to sweat.
Woo, okay.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
You're getting real now, folks.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
But here's what happened and this is raw.
I released the book it's beenthree months, almost three
months, exactly tomorrow as ofrecording right now and after I
released it, I kind of went darkand I shared this.
(23:45):
I've shared this on on thepodcast.
Just just a couple of weeks ago, if you've listened, it was
when we came back from being onbreak for a while.
I went a little bit darkbecause I realized that I had to
do that during that time tofinish the project.
I had to adopt that mindset tostay focused on what it was that
(24:07):
I wanted to finish andaccomplish with this book.
But when the book was done and Ihad a moment to come up for air
, I realized, like I love whatwe do here with the podcast and
this circles back to that momentabout like building community.
I love the people that show upand listen and send messages or
call and call us, our friendsand family, who who know us
(24:28):
personally and call us and belike hey, I just want you to
know.
That podcast episode meant alot to me for this reason and
this reason that gives megoosebumps.
So I love the community thatwe've built and that was on
purpose and I want it tocontinue to grow.
I want the book to do well, butI want it to do well because it
connects with people, notbecause I have some perfect
(24:49):
marketing scheme or I'm ineverybody's face about it all
the time.
So when I came up for air, Irealized I don't have to play
that part anymore.
Like I want to just be me,without the filter of.
This is what thought leaders doand this is how you act and
this is how you speak.
I want to be me.
Oh God, we're just.
This whole season is juststarting.
(25:10):
All these episodes feel liketherapy, so thank you all for
listening and I hope it makesyou feel like your own therapy
session as I work through my own.
But coming back up and saying Ijust want to be me brings us to
this moment of saying that'swhat community is to me.
It connects with people in away of like freeing them from
what everybody else thinks theyshould be or what everybody else
shows them they should be, andthat isn't limited to just the
(25:34):
people listening.
That's me too.
As the host, I want to spendtime with you and our kids every
minute I can.
I want to make music and I wantto be creative and I want to
connect with people that Ihaven't talked to in years
through DMs, who say, hey, youshared that on your story the
other day and I just want you toknow that since then, I started
(25:55):
thinking about this and westarted doing that and it's
really helped me.
And also here's a resource thatyou might find helpful.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, it's happening.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I don't, I don't.
I'm not trying to show up herein this space.
I never really was, but Idefinitely am not anymore trying
to show up in this space as,like I got it all figured out
I'm a thought leader.
Listen to me.
I know everything because Idon't.
I every day I wake up likeeverybody else, trying to figure
it out.
Whatever gets thrown at you,you're like holy shit, ok, this
(26:25):
is life.
Some days are great, some daysare rough.
You wake up, you do it againand you say, okay, well, there
went another monday in mylifetime.
If I'm lucky, I'll have xamount of mondays left, so I'm
not gonna bitch about it beingmonday ever again, kind of thing
.
You know what I mean?
mindset whoo coming in hotcoming in hot if you're still
here, we have episodes everywednesday and this is a.
(26:47):
This is what you're gettingthis year.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Real talk, real talk.
We're going to change it toreal talk.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Word up, real talk.
Whatever I mean the Cameo Show.
You know it's been around nowfor two and a half years and I
love the name the Cameo.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Show, Wow really.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Two and a half years.
Wow it started in my firstepisode.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
No way I don't even remember that when you were like
wow, time flies.
Wow.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
February of 2023 was where the first episodes that
dropped.
I didn't know what the hell Iwas doing.
I still don't.
I don't even know that I wouldkeep doing it.
But here we are and it justkeeps getting more and more real
, and I'm grateful everyfreaking time I see somebody
downloaded the episode orlistened to the episode or
shared the episode, because that, to me, means more than
(27:38):
anything.
It's not about the number, it'sabout whether or not it makes
an impact, and I mean that.
I mean that one more time.
I mean that.
So thank you for being herebeing part of the community.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
So thank you for being here, being part of the
community, god, you know, I gotone more thing.
I'm gonna close it down.
Close it down because we keep,you know and I just I really am
sweating.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Listen.
One more thing the wordcommunity.
I know that's what thisepisode's about and redefining
it, and I'm happy about that,but I gotta be honest, the word
community makes me puke in mymouth like a little bit every
time.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I hear it.
I'm just like it's overdone,yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Stop sing, build community.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
You're bugging me, but we love you and we thank you
for joining us.
And did I already say there'snew episodes every Wednesday?
Because there's new episodesevery Wednesday, you can like,
subscribe, follow, share, do allthe right things.
You know what I'm saying OnApple, spotify, youtube,
wherever you're listening.
Until next time.
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