iRacing Buyer's Guide 2025

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Jason (00:20):
The Hello and welcome to the Chicane Podcast, where we
discuss all things in the simracing world.
I'm your host, Jason Rivera,and I'm joined here by Mr Eric

(00:42):
Kelly and Jeff Smart.
How's everybody doing today?

Erick (00:46):
Hey, man doing good.
So hyped about the SimracingExpo September cannot get here
fast enough.

Jeff (00:52):
I know, I'm so hyped man these days are dragging.

Erick (00:55):
I'm ready, man.

Jeff (00:57):
I mean I hate to wish the summer away, but yeah, september
would be cool to be here.

Jason (01:03):
Yeah, and it's like a weekend and then we go right
back.

Jeff (01:08):
I mean it's Especially out here.
Yeah, it's going to be a tripfor a long weekend, but
definitely worth it.

Jason (01:14):
Yeah, we're going to bring a case of Red Bull.
I'll spill it here, even thoughhe kind of spilled it on our
last video in the commentssection.
But Mr Daniel Newman-Racin willbe joining us, joining the
entourage, if you may.

Jeff (01:30):
Yeah, I booked mine.
I'm officially in.

Jason (01:32):
That's it.
We're fully booked.

Erick (01:34):
The three amigos?
Yes, sir.

Jason (01:37):
Ain't nothing stopping it , man.
That's it.
Ain't nothing stopping it.
We will be there, please, ifyou haven't yet, check out the
the last episode we did.
If you're just tuning in uh, wehave a special promo code,
chicane10 in all caps, to getyou 10 off, which is cheaper
than f125, thanks to jeff.
Jeff's advice, which is thegreatest piece of advice I've

(02:00):
ever heard in my entire life.
So so, ea, you could have hadthis money, but, yeah, you chose
otherwise.
So well, let's do the weeklyroundabouts.
Eric, how was your week, sir?

Erick (02:16):
My week was good.
I got to do a little moreracing.
You know I'm grinding to get tomy C license that's the new
requirement to drive the BMW andthe GRL, and also so I can
start driving the Porsche.
So that's really what I've beenfocused on.
I haven't done a race yet.
I will hit it tomorrow.
I am .06 safety rating.

Jason (02:36):
I'm telling you, man, one race, one world race.
Man, you know, in Hawaiisometimes we jump on 9, 10 pm.

Jeff (02:43):
And I see Eric Kelly in this green.

Erick (02:45):
I'm like damn, oh yeah, yeah man, like Thursday.
You know I normally miss theGRL races.

Jason (02:53):
Do you?

Erick (02:53):
sleep, bro, what's up Now and then?
You know I take a little powernap every now and then Sleep
when you die.

Jason (03:00):
as Jeff told me, Jeff's like the king of the sayings.
He as Jeff told me.
Jeff's like the king of thesayings.
He's taught me so many.
You sleep when you're dead orsleep when you're not.
Well, that's what's up, man, Ireally appreciate the
determination.
If anything, get into the GRLsooner is going to improve you
even further.
It's going to make you betterthat way when you do jump in the

(03:22):
officials at a decent time,right, so you get some rest,
please.
Yeah, you're gonna destroy thecompetition.
I know, um uh.
Mike from the sim racing thenhas mentioned that to me many
times.
Like hey, man, sometimes I jumpin the officials right after
the grl race and he's killing iton track.
So I mean it definitely helpsracing with a group of people

(03:46):
like that.
So big shout-outs again.
That's like three episodes in arow.
Global League Racing Join it,it's free.
You want to raceshoulder-to-shoulder with us?
The links are in thedescription.
Go.
There's nothing stopping you.
Just go ahead and check it out.

Erick (04:00):
That's right.

Jeff (04:05):
Now let's check in on jeff .
Jeff, how was your week, sir?
Jeter was good, uh, I didn't,for whatever reason.
I did not have a lot of thetracks, uh, for the officials
and I racing to this week, so Iwas a little bitter for some odd
reason.
But I've been putting off a lotof stuff, software wise, just
kind of, you know, the normalmaintenance of your, of your rig
.
So not a lot of racing but alot of kind of like upkeep

(04:25):
around the rig.
I'm gonna move, move somehardware around, um, some cable
management.
You know things that you kindof need to do, but you just when
you have a couple minutes toget in there, you just want to
race, um, you haven't put up.
So I put off a bunch of thatstuff.
So I used the excuse to not buy, uh, some new tracks and cars
this weekend.
Do do the things that I neededto do.

(04:46):
I think Jason's going to kindof cover that.
So help everybody out with thatproblem so they don't have that
same problem later today.
But yeah, pretty quiet.
I did book my room for the expoin September, so I am.

Jason (04:58):
Yes, yeah, let's go, dude .
Locked in, locked in, it'sgoing to be a banger, it's going
to be a banger.
It's going to be epic.
I can't wait to see everybodyout there.
Man, I'm telling you, I'mtrying to see about a way of
streaming this as well for thosethat can't attend.
I understand, not everybody canjust take off for a weekend, or

(05:21):
it might be too far, I get it.
I'm trying to figure out a wayand if I do, then I will most
definitely post that here withenough time to let you know what
the schedule is going to be.
And speaking of streaming, Iknow we just mentioned GRL.
I think I'm comfortable to sayhere now that every Tuesday and

(05:44):
Thursday I am live on Twitch.
So if you are interested inseeing us either win or spinning
out, or whatever you're tryingto, we got it all in there.
Having a good time, we'rehaving a good time.

Jeff (05:58):
I mean, jason, you have like one of the most
professional looking feeds outthere.
Dude, I'll tip my hat.

Jason (06:03):
I try man, I try.
Yeah, man, I'll tip my hat.
I'll tell you, bro, I try, man,I try.

Jeff (06:06):
Yeah, man it's very clean.

Erick (06:09):
Yeah, you can see the hard work man.

Jason (06:11):
Especially trying to set mine up and looking at yours I'm
like damn my man been grindingbro, I appreciate that man, I
put a lot of time into that andit's great once you get it set
Now, when things start movingaround you know you got when you
want to add something.

Jeff (06:28):
Logos yeah, it's, it's.
It's on point.
Buddy Put a lot of work into it.

Jason (06:33):
Looks good, I appreciate that, guys, I really do.
Thank you so much for that.
And also I would like to putout another announcement here,
and it's more of a question.
Put out another announcementhere and it's more of a question
who wants to see American TruckSim?
They just released Missouri andI feel like trucking.

(06:53):
So let me know.
Let me know, Leave the commentsbelow.
Maybe I'll do one of those.
What do you call that?
A YouTube post of a question.
If you guys would be interestedin watching it, let me know.
A good time, that's not threein the morning and yeah, just
let me know and we'll figurethat out.

(07:14):
We'll figure it out.

Jeff (07:15):
That'd be a cool way to interact with people.
Yeah yeah, man, be chill too.

Jason (07:19):
It'll be a chill stream.
There's going to be somealcohol, so be careful with the
kids.

Erick (07:23):
I'm telling you right now I It'll be a chill stream.
There's going to be somealcohol, so be careful with the
kids.

Jason (07:27):
I'm telling you right now I'm heavily excited.
I'm so excited to have you bothand to see Eric for the first
time.
You took me by surprise whenyou put that on camera.
I was like, oh man, I didn'treally.
I'd known you for so long thatI don't really it don't feel
like that.

Erick (07:44):
Yeah, it's like's like we see each other every week
exactly it's kind of like wecrazy, yeah on a screen, but
never, never in person.

Jason (07:52):
So that's gonna be dope, that's gonna be awesome.
So yeah, man, welcome dnr tothe posse.

Jeff (07:57):
Yeah yeah, speaking of hanging out, we hung out uh.
Saturday night watched the f1qualifying with some uh some
cigars and a couple cocktails.

Jason (08:06):
That's for damn sure.

Jeff (08:07):
That was the highlight of the F1 weekend.

Jason (08:11):
Those cocktails were men cocktails.
Let me tell you they werepretty strong.
Yeah, we hung out for thequalifying race in Suzuka and it
was great.
The race was safe, Even thedriver said it.
Nothing really happened ontrack other than a crash.

Jeff (08:29):
They went around the track 52 times.
That's about what they did.

Jason (08:33):
That's about it.

Jeff (08:34):
Yeah, I think the synopsis was and then he fell asleep.

Erick (08:36):
Yeah, I think all the drivers pretty much said it was
boring.

Jeff (08:40):
They just I don't know how you still say it Going around a
track at 200 miles an hour isboring.

Jason (08:47):
Jeff is definitely a baller.
Eric, he rolled up in hisbicycle.
He's like Gil man.
We're keeping this safe.
I don't have to worry aboutJohnny Law.

Erick (08:57):
It's one of those electric bikes.

Jeff (08:58):
You pedal, it pushes and I had to bring some filament home
or a backpack.

Erick (09:02):
He brought a backpack, we loaded it up with filament.

Jeff (09:04):
It's only like less than a mile away.
Yeah, didn't have to worryabout you know, johnny Law
hemming me up on the way home IfJeff sneezes hard.

Erick (09:11):
I can probably hear.

Jason (09:13):
Yeah, so well, I'm glad to see you guys again another
week, and today marks the 50thChicane Podcast episode.
We're not a year yet, but we'regoing to have a little special
thing for the year, but the 50thI mean it's Bro, that's wild,
it's crazy.

Erick (09:33):
Big 5-0.

Jason (09:34):
5-0.
Big 5-0.
That's a big milestone.
Most podcasts don't make it to25, and then they say 50.
So we're past 50.
I don't think we're goinganywhere.

Erick (09:47):
So not, if we can help it .

Jeff (09:48):
It's the highlight of the week, buddy.

Jason (09:51):
All right, guys, let's get into the main discussion.
And today I had a.
I was thinking I was like man,all this talk about Global
Racing League and it's you know,it's a league for iRacing.
So maybe somebody is gettinginto iRacing for the first time,
maybe they're buying trying thegame.
I think it's fair 2025 is herethat we take a look at what I

(10:19):
would recommend, starting outwith kind of like a buyer's
guide for iRacing.
So let's get right into it.
First of all, I'm going to showyou my own personal iRacing
account, without the bank, ofcourse.

Erick (10:36):
Hey, that's the piece I was waiting on, man.

Jeff (10:39):
I know I just you just un -X those credit cards.
That'd be great Disclaimer.

Erick (10:43):
Disclaimer Get my pen and pad ready, you know.

Jason (10:47):
Okay.
So look at that nice GRO logohere reminding me that we got a
race coming up, or actually isthe past.
That's the results there andyeah, pretty cool.
So these are my licenses.
As you could tell, formula isis.
I'm not really racing theformula right now, mostly on the

(11:10):
sports class there, um, but butthen again these numbers are
not.
I appreciate it, man.
These numbers are not accuratebecause I haven't been racing
per se and officials, I've beenstuck in the league.
In the league there's nopenalty to your safety or
I-rating, so it's mainly acommunity race, if you may.

Jeff (11:33):
Oh, that's, a good point yeah.

Jason (11:36):
So when you first jump into I-racing, you're going to
have to make the decision Eitheryou're going, oval you're going
, and oval is I got a surprisefor Jeff either oval, sports
formula uh, dirt oval or dirtroad, which is like rally.
So let's say you pick the sportright, Cause it's my favorite

(11:59):
currently and that's what werace on the GRL and we do race
formula.
Sorry, we do race F4s on theGRL, but this is the easiest
gateway into the league and alsointo our racing, and that's
because we have a brand new carcalled the BMW M2, right?
So let's go ahead and take alook at it.

Erick (12:20):
Yep Little beast.

Jason (12:22):
Let's look at the CS Racing.
Well, I can't say there she is,it's still loading.
This is the web browser, so Idon't know if it's going to load
.
I hope it does.

Jeff (12:38):
Anyways, that'll work.

Jason (12:39):
That'll work.
We're looking at car info,right.
So here's the car.
Iracing is kind of those games,that extra polish.
You know the cars actually comewith a manual and you know you
get to read about them.
This is just a one pager, butI'm pretty sure they come with a
little more.

Jeff (12:55):
It is kind of cool how they do do that.
When they release the car, theygive you a lot of the specs and
more than just a paragraph.

Jason (13:01):
Right?
Or just the name of the car andthe horsepower, and that's it
Exactly.
So you have all the details ofthe car.
You have different shots whichare professional and very nice
iRacing shots here and you canpaint the car whatever.
Here's the list that you theseare all the sessions that the

(13:23):
car is racing in.
So this gives you an idea.
So if I start driving the BMW,it's a free car, it comes with a
subscription.
These are all the sessions thatpeople are racing in right now,
at least in our local time.
So it's not many racing rightnow.
It's kind of late for the restof the world.

(13:44):
But you know you catch my driftright.
So let's go a little deeper.
You already know you're goingto use the car.
It's free, it's included.
So if we go into official here,I was looking at NASCAR Jeff.

Jeff (14:00):
Look at you after yeah.

Jason (14:02):
After all this shit talking, you say it.

Jeff (14:04):
We watched some NASCAR this weekend.

Jason (14:07):
That's another thing.
We kept drinking and we waswatching that NASCAR Drive to
Survive-like show to see what'sit called.

Jeff (14:12):
I forget, oh man, full Throttle.

Jason (14:14):
Something like that, yeah .

Jeff (14:16):
I don't remember.
It was entertaining.

Jason (14:17):
It was cool, yeah, so, like you're going to look at
rookies, so that's where you'regoing to start and you have an
actual league.
That's all M2s.
You don't have to worry aboutperformance.
You don't have to worry aboutsetups they're fixed setups
right here.
Fixed meaning there's not a guythat's going to tune the car to
make it faster than you, right,this is just a fix all around.

(14:41):
You don't have to worry aboutfuel very easy to get into.
So let's say, I want race hereand they, they look at this ui
man, they they've made it somuch better than what it used to
be.
Um, the schedule here?
yeah, go ahead, eric no, I wasjust saying that track is rough
oh yeah, wenton is is no joke,so at least it's it least it's

(15:03):
going to be sunny out there,with not 7% chance of rain right
here for that race.
But if we go to the schedule,it'll tell you that I've owned
all these tracks.
Did I buy any of these?
No, they come with yoursubscription, so you don't have
to worry about any purchase withthe M2.

(15:25):
Now let's switch gears.
Now let's say you want to getinto the Formula 4, which is
probably one of Jeff's favoritecars.
Let me just filter the FIA F4.
So this is a paid car, not theprettiest looking one, but a

(15:49):
nice livery will make it look alot better.

Jeff (15:52):
A lot better.

Jason (15:54):
Yeah.
So you choose this vehicle.
These vehicles are like I thinkit's $1099 or is it $1199?
Guys, correct me, I think it's$1199.
$1199.
So it is what it is right.
So you get to the.
You you want to race this car.
You go to officials, I, I goover to formula and that would

(16:21):
be a D class, right there, it isChallenge, right here.
So then this gives you where isit?
You can look at the scheduleand you can say, ignoring that I
own almost all the freakingtime.
There's still some out therethat I don't own.
But, for example, they'resaying there's still some out
there that I don't own.
But, for example, they'resaying, let's say, well, if you

(16:45):
don't want to spend so muchmoney at once, you could do this
by the week or you could do itby the month, and you can kind
of see and plan out.
Ok, I do own Long Beach, forexample, which is an amazing
track.

Erick (17:00):
I think that's a brutal track.

Jason (17:02):
Yeah it's fun as hell.
That's yeah.
Yeah, it's fun as hell.
So this track, would you knowyou could plan out um for the
sixth week, right?
This is, this is going by weeks, so this will be on each and
every week.
It's a different track.
Now your next question is Idon't want to spend a track and

(17:23):
it never be used again.
So how do you know that, right?
So how?
So how do you know that, right?
So how do you, how do you getthat information, right?
So we went over how to purchasea car.
We went over how to look at aschedule for a particular um
event, right, which is this one?
I'm just taking these two, forexample.
Now I'm going to stop sharingand go over to another screen

(17:45):
that I have ready and it's thisguy.
So this guy is a tool that wascreated.
I can't, I don't know thecreator's name, but he's doing
God's work because he's takingyour.
He's taking your tracks, right,and you can come in here and

(18:08):
filter and add a track and tellthem which ones you own and
which ones you don't, and ittells you which ones are free.
So I can just filter it outthis way that this Lanier or
Lanier, I don't know how to saythat National Speedway is being
used 51 times this season andit's free.

(18:32):
That's wild.

Jeff (18:33):
From 13 times last season.

Erick (18:35):
Right, that's a glow up For real.

Jeff (18:38):
You think yeah.

Jason (18:39):
So if I look up what was that track again that we looked
up just now, the Long Beachright oh okay.

Erick (18:49):
Yeah.

Jason (18:50):
So if we look at Long Beach, I can click on Long Beach
and I can see all the eventsthat Long Beach is participating
in this season.
So this changes every season.
So it tells you week two.
Week four is being used and foreach series yes man, that's,

(19:12):
that's handy man and right hereweek six, which is accurate,
right, we just looked at it theformula fia challenge yo, this
dude puts in some work, yeah, soit's got to be automated
somewhere.

Jeff (19:25):
Right, you can't be hand jamming this stuff.

Jason (19:28):
And there's a $14.95 that tells you that it's $24.

Jeff (19:31):
Oh, that's dope.
It tells you like, hey, here'sthe price and here's how many
times If you bought it last year, how many times you would have
got to use it.

Jason (19:37):
Right.
So if you bought this lastseason, it was used 22 times
last season and now it's beingused 25 times, so look at it as
an investment.
I know it's.
I know I racing is pricey, butif you want, if you want to race
on the I racing platform andyou want that realism and you

(19:59):
want to race you know,potentially race side-by-side
real-life drivers this is theplatform to do it on.

Jeff (20:07):
It is we were talking about this at work over like you
can do an AI race and themoment you jump back into
official knowing that there's ahuman on the other side of that
car that you're racing, it'stotally different.

Jason (20:20):
Cuts a little bit harder.
Cuts a little harder.
Yeah, so you can also do thesame thing with the cars right,
cause it's a little bit harder,cause a little harder, yeah, so
you can also do the same thingwith the cars right, and you can
see that.
That Ferrari 296 that I advisedEric last year to purchase Yep,
if you want to race GT3, thatsingle car is being used in 12
different seasons.
And here they are, it's ownarigt3 challenge, the rain master,

(20:46):
which if you want some slippingand sliding then by all means.
And then you know you even gotimsa racing.
It has, from rookie all the wayto a class that you can use
this car, this one car, so it's,you know, it's kind of um, it's

(21:08):
actually the most used car onthe season right now, which is
crazy.
So so you kind of catch mydrift right.
This is iRacingBuyersGuidenet.
You can take your data.
You can let me see if it letsme, if I click on my tracks,
then you can it automatically.

(21:29):
Yes.

Jeff (21:30):
Oh no, it's got.
These are the free tracks.

Jason (21:31):
Oh, the ones that come free with it.

Jeff (21:33):
Yeah, yeah, okay.
So you have to go in and enteryour own stuff.
For what you have, you'd haveto cross-reference.

Jason (21:39):
Exactly so.
If I went over to Long Beachright, where's Long Beach?
Say.
I put Long Beach and now I lookfor Long Beach.
Like, for example, if I look attracks again and I look at Long
Beach, now it's highlighted ingreen telling me that I own this

(22:00):
content.
So if you just take the time,look at your content, if you're
new, obviously you're not goingto have anything.
But if this is year two for youfor iRacing, or a few months in
, and you want to figure outwhat kind of track, what kind of
car should I be buying to getthe most bang out of my buck,
right, you go to the officialiRacing app and you basically

(22:29):
cross-check, look at my content,and then it'll tell you all the
tracks that you own.
And then you start marking themoff here and once you do that,
this thing has cookies and itsaves to your desktop or your
browser so you don't have to doit again.
And there's no account, there'sno, nothing.
There's no ads, it's great.

Erick (22:51):
It's a great tool.
That's rare.

Jason (22:55):
Very rare, very handy.
This tool is not new.
It's been being used for years.
And there's one more tip I'llgive you and I'll let, I'll let,
I'll let, I'm not trying tospend.
Here we go.
Another topic of me trying tomake you spend money.
Trying to make you say I'mtrying to save money.
Now I'm trying to make you sayif iRacing is for you.

(23:16):
If ACC is still a great game Istill get on there from time to
time there's other platforms.
If you don't feel like spendingextra money right every month,
pay attention to the news,because sometimes cars go into
legacy mode and by purchasingthose vehicles it adds to your

(23:40):
iRacing counter Meaning wheneveryou own 40 pieces of content.
If they haven't changed this,40 pieces of content gives you a
permanent 20% off on anythingelse you buy from iRacing.
So it doesn't matter if you buyone track, two track three,
four, you get a 20% off.

(24:00):
So now they only discount inthrees.
You know the three for 10, Ithink what is it?
What is it?
Four for 15?
Or something like that.

Jeff (24:10):
Yeah, I don't remember.
I always try to do threesbecause of it.

Jason (24:14):
You try to do threes because of it.
You try to do threes, butthere's going to be a point
where you're going to get closeto 40, right?
So these cars that aresunsetting, iracing will tell
you hey, if you bought thisMustang supercar, whatever and
we have a new Mustang coming outreplacing that, I go ahead and
I buy that Mustang, the legacyone because iRacing will credit

(24:36):
the money back as long as thepurchase is within 90 days of
the content being releasing.
So just a tip and don't crucifyme if they change that rule.
Just pay attention.
Just pay attention.
It's out there, and I want togive a big shout out to Vlad,
aka VLAD, for letting me know.

(24:56):
This tip Saved me a bunch ofmoney and I got some free cars
that I can mess around with.
That's an extra car.
Even though it's not beingraced, I can still use the car
if I want to, and that's my takeon an updated buyer's guide for
iRacing 2025 as we stand.

Erick (25:18):
Yeah, that's awesome man.
Kind of a refresher for me,because I remember when I first
started you were kind of showingme all the ropes, iRacing, and
I need to go back to that siteand start tracking some of my
purchases, especially with metonight Moving to the C license.
Uh, so yeah, this happened intonight, so getting up out the

(25:40):
rookies and looking at somedifferent cars and stuff.

Jason (25:44):
I can't wait for the screenshot, jeff.
The screenshot is coming, orthe video, who knows?

Erick (25:49):
whichever one comes first , but it might be a little of
both men.

Jason (25:52):
Yeah.

Erick (25:53):
This is is uh, it's gonna be fun, but, um, I guess do you
have.
I know you recommended theporsche.
Uh, I mean, at the porsche, theferrari 293, um 296 I mean 296
gt3.
Um the.
We talk about the bmw.
I know it's free, but it'slabeled a rookie car.

(26:16):
But you got to tame that mugman.
So, do you have any otherrecommendations if you're a
rookie trying to get going?

Jason (26:31):
So here's my take on it.
I think if you can drive theBMW, then you can drive the
faster cars, and that's whateverybody wants, right?
Nobody wants to be stuck inrookies, unless you enjoy the
BMW and you want to join the MSport, because they have their
own league and stuff like that.
I say just stick with the BMWand learn it.

(26:56):
It's going to be messy, it'sgoing to annoy you, it's going
to spin, she's going to scream,she's not going to stop.
But if you can tame that car,then you learn something right.
Why choose the easy way out?

Jeff (27:15):
That's my opinion, why?
That's why I think people areso quick to learn to get out of
rookies and I was guilty of ittoo, but it's funny, you don't
learn it until after, until it'stoo late.
But uh, even on the formulaside, I drove the was it the ff,
1600 or 1600 ff in rookies andyou're so quick to get out of
that damn car because it doesn'tzero down force and it's slow.

(27:36):
Um, you breathe on it the wrongway and you get an incident.
Um, still a great car, but itteaches you, like, fundamentals
of driving.
Um, so there is something to besaid about learning and
mastering the car that you'redriving in rookies right,
learning to drive without theaids is what we're talking about

(27:56):
.

Jason (27:57):
Or it doesn't have to be abs and tcs, it could be
downforce, it can be weighttrend.
You know all this, all thesetopics, right.
And jeff, thank you so much forfor mentioning the f 1600,
because the ff 1600, becausethat's the car that I would
recommend to start in a formula,or the V but the V is another

(28:19):
one that if you downshift itwrong, if you, if it will turn
you up sideways, man, but thenit's kind of like you have this
sense of appreciation for it,because it's kind of like you
have this sense of appreciationfor it, because it's like you
know, I struggled to get out ofhere and now I earned my spot in
a faster vehicle, in a fasterclass I'm ready for the super

(28:41):
formulas.
Let's go straight in the superformula.

Erick (28:47):
Yeah, yeah, and I want to put this tip out there.
I know we talk, um, there'swell, I don't talk it.
There's a lot of talk, a lot ofsmack talked about gt7.
But if you are trying to dipyour toe into the iris and
waters and you're in that v orthat bmw, don't give up.

(29:09):
That's, that's all I'm gonnasay.
Don't give up, because that'sall I'm going to say.
Don't give up Because it's alearning curve.
But it is like they were saying, it is satisfying.
When you get your first win,like Mr Kelly, yeah, you get
that first win and you get acertificate man.

Jason (29:22):
What other game spits out a freaking science certificate?
I've never seen one.
I know we paying for it, thoughExactly I paid for that
certificate you got my money, Igot my certificate.

Erick (29:35):
But exactly, I paid my money, we got my money, I got my
certificate, yeah, but you butto y'all's point, you feel like
you're, you're driving a machine.
They're all different.
You know you.
They have different tendenciesand you know things.
They like, things they don'tlike.
Right, really kind of get intothe mode of like this is my car,
like this is what I'm driving,and not that I'm gonna stick to
it, like that, but you learn it,I think you're learning

(29:56):
racecraft in it.

Jeff (29:57):
Right, you're first.
Yes, you're learning just tokeep it on the road.
But right as you leave rookies,you're starting to feel like,
oh, I can not take the fast lineand still go quick, you know,
or I can.
You know somebody is on theracing line, I can go off the
racing line, still be fast topass them.

Jason (30:12):
And you're just slowly learning race craft with it and
I know formula, for damn sureteaches you how to lift, to be
in the turns.
Instead of always matching thebrake, which is the, you know,
the regular gt car you have toget the brakes to get the car to
turn.
Most of the time, right, you,most of the time with the bmw,

(30:34):
you're steering with the rear.
You're not even steering withthe front.
The rear of the car is movingthe car's trajectory with your
brake, which is crazy to think.
Yeah, something like a cart.
If you don't know that thatyou're gonna have a hard time in
this car.
You might want to practice alot to get it going yes, yeah,

(30:54):
that piece is like I said.

Erick (30:55):
It's almost like driving a go-kart kind of, because yeah
like eric, but you, you broughtup a good point.

Jason (31:02):
Man, don't give up.
It's, trust me, the the beautyof the game happens after, when
you start buying a track, andthen you notice that the tracks
that you purchase look betterthan the ones that are free.

Jeff (31:15):
It's just the ones that are free are old.
Funny how that happens.

Jason (31:19):
I know it's crazy, right, it's interesting.
It's a premium track now,that's not a free track.
Yeah, and one more thing WithiRacing, it's just, there's
nothing wrong.
Let's say you enjoy the bmw, Ienjoy the bmw, I race it on grl.

(31:42):
But if I didn't race it on grlI would join the m the m club
for it, even though I'm ana-class driver.
That it doesn't mean you don'thave to.
Just because you have a higherlicense doesn't mean that you
have to drive the faster vehicle.
And Jeff, you can attest tothis.
You enjoy the F3.
The F3 is your baby, or the F4.

(32:02):
I think it's the F4.
And your license is way higherthan the requirements for an F4,
but you gravitated to thatvehicle and that racing and that
craft.
So there's nothing wrong.
It's kind of like being trustme, there's some very serious
people when you start climbingthe ranks in there.
I can guarantee you that.

Jeff (32:20):
You can say that again.

Jason (32:25):
So that's my updated take .
For once, I'm not trying tomake you spend money, I'm trying
to.
I'm looking for ways for you tosave money, even though it's
related to spending.
So, um, if, if, yeah, if youwant to give iRacing a shot, I
mean, just sign up and do amonth and don't give up, like

(32:47):
Eric said.
So that's my take, that's mytopic for today.
Definitely that's my take.

Erick (32:52):
That's my topic for today .
Definitely I'm going to have togo on their site and get my
stuff uploaded.

Jason (32:59):
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Erick (33:14):
That bell does share it out, tell your friends, tell
your mom and them you know, yeah, all right man.

Jason (33:21):
So who's up next, eric, what we got today, man for you
uh, yeah, man.

Erick (33:25):
So you know, when we talk a lot about our racing, um, our
respect and appreciation for itis through the roof.
But there are other ways torace, some more controversial
than others, and I was going tostick to just talking about the
newest console that was revealed, the Switch 2.

(33:46):
But I think, just in general,racing on consoles is going to
become more and more popular andit seems like the developers
for these simulators are takingnotice of that.
Specifically, on the PS5, youknow, we got Rensport coming,
ace Evo is coming to the PS5.
You already have ACC and a setof Corson there, and so it got

(34:13):
me to thinking.
With the new nintendo switch 2that's coming out, um, obviously
you think about racing on there, you think about mario kart,
but they actually had some, youknow that.
But the original switch, Ican't speak to how well it ran,
but they, they actually had someracing titles.
They had WRC, they had, I think, f1.

(34:36):
The NASCAR 25 game is alreadyannounced.

Jeff (34:39):
That might be the only way I drive F1.
It's on a switch on theairplane or something.
That's what.

Jason (34:44):
I do, man, I have a.
What do you call those?
A Legion Go.

Erick (34:48):
Yeah.

Jason (34:49):
And I play it.
I have F1 installed there.
That and I play I have f1installed there, because that's
how I would.

Erick (35:01):
Yeah it's better than nothing yeah, yeah, if I'm in,
if I'm stuck in an airplane,hell yeah, and I need my fix,
let's go, let's go, let's go.
Sorry, no.
So so to y'all's, to y'all'spoint.
Um, you know, even like for meI don't have a, a mobile console
, but doing remote play on onthe PlayStation with my phone
and the backbone controller, ifthere's a new track when I was
like kind of going hardcore onGT7, if there's a new track out,
I might just pop that out, justso I can learn the track.

(35:25):
Use my phone and the backboneis kind of go around the track.
You know, not trying to be thefastest, but just getting
familiar with it before Iactually hop in the car.
But you know, not trying to bethe fastest but just getting
familiar with it before Iactually hop in the car.
Um, but you know, to your point, if you have nothing else, the
switch to if you're not.
With the specs, um, it's gotsome respectable specs.

(35:45):
So the new display does 1080pin handheld mode.
It does vr, hdr10 up to 120hertz.
They say.
Suppose it's going to have 12gigs of RAM.
You got 256 gigs of storage, acustom NVIDIA GPU.
So the performance, I thinkjust for handheld, might be

(36:07):
there, and, with the consolebeing targeted more for
Ascendant developers, I thinkit'd be interesting to see if
that becomes more commonplace,right I mean nintendo definitely
has uh their share of themarket, the gaming market, yeah
but there's one thing thatturned me off from the Switch 2.

Jason (36:31):
And that's the $79.99 per game that I can't get behind.
They're coming out of respectwith this price, and especially
at the price of the console.
They want $450 for this thing.
Yeah, if we're going to, youknow that's some cheddar.
Yes, you know, I can dare say Ican build the PC with 500 bucks

(36:56):
if I'm careful, and you guysknow I'm not careful.
But if I really but if I'mcareful, no truer words.

Erick (37:05):
You can't take it on a plane, though.

Jason (37:07):
You can't take it on a plane.
This is true.
Boy's got a point but if youbuild the pc and it has um steam
on it and you play games onsteam, which 99.9 of us do.
You can use your cell phone anduse steam link and connect your
.
You can have your pc remoteturn on and play anywhere.

(37:27):
Just you need a decent internetconnection and nowadays flights
, you know star, you know,starlink we got.
Starlink man, we got fullbandwidth on the plane.
I'm telling you.
It's just this whole.

Jeff (37:40):
Hawaiian out here is standard with Starlink now.

Jason (37:43):
It depends.
Okay, we're being a little toobiased, right?

Erick (37:48):
A little piece of bias, I'm being biased.

Jason (37:50):
Me, jason, it depends.
If my life revolved aroundtravel like that, then I guess I
don't have time for racing, Idon't have time to do any of
this stuff.
Then, yeah, I would be investedin something that's a good
point.

Erick (38:05):
That's a valid point.
And, out of curiosity, what isyour Legion Go cost, just for
comparison, because I know it'sa beast?

Jason (38:15):
I bought it on sale so I paid $499 for it and it has
Windows 11.
It's a beast of a machine 8.8.
120 hertz, and it has VRR on itand it has the same detachable
Joy-Con-like controller.
I 3D printed some goodies forit too, of course.

(38:39):
I 3D printed a D-pad and moddedit to make it fit the Xbox
Elite magnetic D-pad.
So I printed out a machine,cracked it open, installed it,
put the magnets in.
I've been busy in the sweatshop, that's what I call it.
It's been sweat and plastic allover the place.

(39:00):
But you know what?
I don't want to discredit ittoo soon.
The Switch is coming out onJune 5th.
We will definitely take anothercloser, deeper look at it.
But nintendo is not in in itfor the graphics, or they're.
They're in it for their firstparties.
Mainly is what they're in itfor yeah so I can see a steam 2

(39:23):
coming out and just a goodbyeswitch.

Erick (39:27):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I think the landscape is going to be
interesting.
Just the idea of.

Jason (39:33):
And the price of games $80 a game.
Come on man.

Erick (39:38):
That's brutal.

Jason (39:40):
We got Steam sales daily, every day, there's a Steam sale
for $15, $12 a game.
I'm not saying that.
That's what they cost when theycome out.

Erick (39:51):
I'm not saying that CD keys.

Jason (40:00):
Or what you call.

Erick (40:01):
What is the other one, g2a?
G2a is a good one, but we'renot sponsored.
I would again yeah, I'm lookingfor you, I'm looking for you.

Jason (40:05):
We are open, we're open yeah, we're open as as of as of
right now, we're open, so yeah,you know why you can't without
saying, without saying too much,but you know, you know where to
find this exactly, yeah, Iappreciate that.
I guess that's a good firstlook.
Uh, what about jeff?
You've been quiet about this.
I know if, if your son findsout that there's a switch to on

(40:28):
the horizon, you know, yeah,he's not he's, we don't, we're
not really big into the gaminghere.

Jeff (40:34):
He's, uh, I mean, the minecraft is really what he's
into now which is that's a hardgame to smart.
You got to be smart, yeah, Imean he does it on his ipad and
he gets it.
You know, I think he played.
We let him play just in theweekend, so we're not huge into
that scene yet.
Um, but yeah, my last jobthough my last job.

Jason (40:53):
I'm just kidding.
I'm kidding, what's that?
And then his dad is in.
It is in the yeah I'm kidding,I'm kidding.

Jeff (41:01):
But if I trapped, like my last job, I traveled a lot, um,
and if I could play f1, you know20, whatever, as much as I crap
on it, but if I could play iton the airplane, dude, that
that's what I see it.
I mean at least from if I wasdoing from my perspective.
It would be, as you know,something that I travel, or or
if my kid had it and I, you know, would just put, you know, put

(41:24):
some of the you know the f1 onit.
When I could get on it, atleast I could, you know, jam
away at you know some racing, itwould be just added benefit.
But yeah, we're just not intoit.

Jason (41:33):
The, the um, the gaming, the gaming scene got you
understand, yeah, totallydefinitely totally understand
that and and respect towardsthat as well.
So, yeah, all right, so switchto we will, we will, we will see
.
Because they they had apre-order open for this week and
it got canceled because of aslight change in things coming

(42:00):
into the United States Inpricing.

Erick (42:01):
You know what I mean.
Yeah, that pricing was crazythough.

Jason (42:06):
Still, yeah, I mean we'll see.
We'll see what they figure out.
I don't know if they knowsomebody, I don't know.

Jeff (42:12):
We'll see Another call out of shots, man, all right.
So over to jeff, jeff, what yougot for us, all right.
So I got a topic today.
It's going to be kind ofcentered around vr, um, and it's
.
I got a kind of a discussionand a question here that I want
to put.
You know, throw to you guys.
Uh, as I kind of start, thediscussion here is uh, what

(42:33):
would you say is the biggestreason why people don't drive vr
?
You know, you guys been in thegaming and the racing world
longer than I have and have ourvr expert, take this full stop
so well, how did you say it,jeff, not full stop?

Jason (42:48):
what did you say again?
Um, I forgot, I'll remember.
Go ahead, jeff, I mean eric, goahead yeah, I laying it on
racing.

Erick (42:58):
Oh yeah, hey, man, we got to get these quotes on the
shirts.

Jason (43:04):
Man, I need that I rewinded my own video like 10
times.
I was dying.
I was like you guys.
Eric, jeff, your face, bro.
I'm sorry I had to take that.
Go ahead, eric.

Erick (43:20):
I was going to say, as of right now, with VR, strictly VR
, not mixed reality, which Ithink is the pinnacle of the
future but with pure VR theimmersion is unbeatable, right?
The problem is, you know youguys were telling me before and

(43:42):
the more I spend time setting upmy rig and adjusting stuff, you
know, getting button boxes andall this stuff.
You spend a lot of money onyour rig and you want to see
your rig, you want to see yourscreens, the buttons on your
wheels.
You know, and there's just nogood way to interact with the

(44:02):
real world things while you'rein VR.
Like VR is immersive butthere's just no way to interact
with that stuff.

Jason (44:12):
And then also like I said I haven't raced VR.
That's for sim racing right.

Jeff (44:15):
You're talking straight sim racing.
Yeah, I'm talking sim racing,yeah, sorry.
Yes, straight sim racing, okay,yeah, yeah.

Erick (44:21):
if it's straight sim racing, that's my biggest kind
of downfall.
I haven't even on GT7, when Iraced GT7, I kind of rarely put
the headset on now just becauseI'm, you know looking at my you

(44:42):
know lap times and I've got this, all this data, kind of
configured the way I want it.

Jason (44:44):
Do you feel like you're becoming more competitive in a
way by doing that and and andrelying on the data more than it
sounds like you rely more ondata than you, that than you've
ever before?
Right that you're actually.
You're actually seeking it likewhere is, where is all this
stuff in gt7.
Then you found the, theengineer.
You're trying to bridge the gap.

Erick (45:04):
That's a good point yeah, yeah trying to watch yeah,
that's, that's true.
The data definitely helps andthen, to a certain extent, the,
I guess, the consistency and thecomfort.
So with VR you can get into thesame spot, but I don't know,

(45:30):
it's, it's not like.
It's not like being in your,like, your rig.
The same exact way every singletime.
The screens are the exact samedistance, every single time.

Jason (45:42):
That's a good point.

Erick (45:43):
So you got some, not just muscle memory but you have a, I
guess, yeah.
Yeah, cause there's adifference, because originally I
would.
When I first started racingback on the on the flat screen
from the VR especially in cars,I was very familiar with racing
in VR.
There was a difference, butthere were certain things like I

(46:07):
was like adjust the headset andtry to get things just right.

Jason (46:11):
And over and over.

Erick (46:13):
Yeah, and try to get things just right.
Center it over and over, yeah,and throughout a race.
You don't have to worry aboutthings kind of adjusting.
And that's specific to the PSVRtoo, because of the small sweet
spot on it which I know likethe Moto Plus 3.

Jason (46:23):
Most of them are like that, bro.
Honestly, most of them.

Erick (46:26):
And then like the comfort thing too.
Like you know, they get hot,especially if you're in a rig
for a long time trying to do along race.

Jason (46:36):
Um, and you're.
You're disconnected from theworld too, like if you have.
If you have people in the house, you know it's easy to quickly
glance over and say hey give mea second or I'll be right there,
you know what I mean.
Instead of literally justhaving to do this, you do that.

Erick (46:55):
You, you.
Well, you got past.
Yeah, you got passed through.
But you know if you're mid-race, mid-corner and yeah, but yeah,
yeah, you you can't do that, soI can't tell if that's a child
or a dog rubbing my shoulderright now.
You know I might.

Jason (47:12):
Yeah, you, I've used vr you kind of use a little tiny,
little little tiny gap aroundthe nose and you're like you
know what I'm talking about.
I do.
I know exactly what you'retalking about?
Yeah you're trying to find thatlittle gap of light.

Erick (47:26):
Hey, hold on, give me yeah, so it's, yeah, it's like
the immersion is next level, butat a certain point you're too
disconnected.

Jason (47:40):
Okay, disconnection.
Yeah, all right, josh, what yougot, I'll go next.
See, with VR there's atrade-off.
Some games look better thanothers, but there is a trade-off
with detail.
I'm not saying that I mean, ifwe're talking immersion, then
the higher the detail, thebetter you can see the cars, the

(48:03):
better you can see the depth offield, the better you can gauge
the distance between yourbumper and their bumper, and
then it's limited.
It's not limited because of theheadset, it's limited because
of the development 90, I want tosay 80.
Development goes towards the simbeing on a single monitor, and

(48:28):
I'm not even going to say, uh,triple, monitor the dead, the.
The way the game was coded wasfor a single monitor.
Then it gets expanded to tripleand then further expanded in a
virtual space.
Now, unless you're racing, agame that was meant for virtual
racing, like gran turismo 7, wasa game that was heavily
designed to work.

(48:49):
They wanted the game to lookexactly the same or better in VR
, which is one of the, which isone of the, what you call this.
But there's still drawbacksright, there's, there's still
drawbacks from running the gamein VR.
You're not going to get a 4k120 image.
It's, it's going to be upscaledto death.

(49:09):
You know what I mean.
It's going to be heavilyupscaled there.
Going to be see.
Psvr is impressive piece of tech.
It uses something calledphobiotic rendering, so it'll
follow your eyeball whenever.
Wherever your eyeball isfocusing, that picture will
become um, it's at its clearest,and everything else.

(49:29):
And it does it really well,like it literally scans your
eyes when you first buy it andthen you look around, it tells
you to look around to figure out.
You know your iris.
They have since brought that toPC.
Has that.
They have it.
It's just a separatethird-party software that you

(49:49):
install.
That we may go over, because Iknow Jeff's's using vr more and
I've been wanting to tell himhey, man, you need to check out.
I think it's xvr or somethinglike that.
I'll correct myself in the inthe description, but there's a
bunch of different software yeah, and it has all those phobetic
rendering.
Some of them even have dlLSSbuilt into the headset, which is

(50:11):
wild.
That's crazy, yeah.
So I say to not sugarcoat ittoo much.
I say just choose your path,man.
There's limitations to both,there's cons, there's pros and
cons to both of them.
A lot of people want to getinto the vr scene because they

(50:32):
feel like it saves money,because you don't need to buy a
stand, you don't need to buymonitors, you don't need to buy
standing monitors or and thewell, you wouldn't.

Jeff (50:44):
You wouldn't pay for a super nice wheel and all that
other stuff, right exactly?

Jason (50:48):
if I had a full vr set, I would buy a mid-range wheel
like a cube control that doesn'thave a screen on it, like an FX
, like a core.
You know the FX core.
It feels good in the hands.
It has maybe 12 buttons.

Jeff (51:06):
Just quick ones yeah.

Jason (51:08):
It doesn't have any of the flashy little clicky and
nothing like that, somethingthat you could just grab on and
all the buttons are in thisrange, right right here and,
let's be honest, no, no, danielnewman racing no dnr yeah, see,
that's the, that's so dnr dnr,dnr brings your rig to life.
It, yeah, it, it.
It does it with the.

(51:29):
It's not just led.
A lot of people just think it'sleds.
No, it's not just LED.
A lot of people just think it'sLEDs.
No, it's not just LEDs.
The man's making dashboards,he's making, ambient lights he's
making, but these lights arenot just lights to be lights.
They lights that mean thingsthat are visual cue that drivers
in the real world have that wedon't have because we're sitting

(51:50):
behind a computer.
Now, if you put a VR headset,that we don't have because we're
sitting behind a computer, now,if you put a vr headset, you're
straight up blind.
Yeah to all of that.
Yeah, so that's my take.
Okay, I say choose your pathwisely.
What do you think?
Uh, jeff, I know you've been,you know you've been tinkering
lately.

Jeff (52:05):
Yeah, it's, I don't know I .
I think you guys summarize thepros and cons pretty well.
Um, and I'm not going to rehashit.
I mean, I drive the.
The immersion is just.
If I'm not out there to, likeyou know, get a, you know a p1,
a podium or whatever, and I justwant to go out and have a great
experience, I'll be, I'll drivevr because the, you know, it
just is the immersions there, um.

(52:26):
But if I want to drivecompetitive um, or if I'm just
gonna be in there quick and Iknow the kids are going to come
in, I'll just drive with thetriples.
But what I did want to bringinto this discussion is there's
a new headset on the market thatI just wanted to talk to real
quick and maybe people haveheard of it, but the big screen

(52:50):
beyond two, what's that?
I?

Erick (52:54):
said Yowzers.

Jeff (52:56):
Yeah, the price is expensive, right, I'm not going
to sugarcoat that, but I'll justquickly go through some specs
here and requirements forWindows 10, obviously,
displayport 1.4, and you need adecent computer to run this
thing optimally.
But what I really want to kindof get into is the, the like the
screen on it.

(53:17):
It is not a step up from theoriginal beyond uh, you know,
but it does have old uh 2560 by2560 per eye it's.
It maxes at 60 megahertz 2560,that's 2k, yeah.
So here's where it gets.
You know the the, the part thatpeople are saying that it's the

(53:38):
big deal.
It's 160 degrees FOV, but totaledge-to-edge clarity.
No sweet spot on it Now, giventhey're still in early release
and the people out on theinterwebs and YouTube that are
reviewing it are probablygetting a deal on it, right?
Um, but here's where I kind ofasked the question on why vr

(53:59):
gets not, as isn't as popular asit potentially could be.
Is the quest 3 is 515 grams.
Any guesses on this one?
You can probably see it on thescreen somewhere 127, I'd say
this one wow, yeah, that's superlight, yeah.
So what I want to do isprobably the band.

Jason (54:18):
There's no battery either .
Is there even a battery in this?

Jeff (54:22):
yeah, um, I believe so.
Um, but probably tiny.
Yeah, what I really want to dois which we don't care about.
We're plugged into the pc, itdon't really matter right,
exactly, um, but check this outfor like a comparison of how,
the size of these things so youcan see them there in the front,
there the clear one and theorange lens compared to some of

(54:43):
the more popular uh vr headsets.
So when we started talkingabout you know longer races, um,
this might be.
If your only downfall is theweight on your face and the
sweat, then you know thispotentially could be.
You know something that youthink about.
So I'm not here to say that it'sum, you know the next thing

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best thing out there.
Everybody that I've, videosthat I've watched, are saying
that the, you know the FOV isawesome and the clarity is
fantastic.
Um, you know, time will tellwhen it really comes out.
Another thing that'sinteresting is I watched the
release video from Big ScreenBeyond Dude, what a company.

(55:26):
They said, hey, if you orderedthe original in the last I think
it was like three weeks wehaven't sent it out.
Why?
Because we're going to send youthe Beyond 2 at the price you
just paid for the Beyond 1.
Like, what a company.

Erick (55:42):
Nice, that's nice.

Jason (55:44):
I'm glad that it's the 2, because the 1, I looked at
these and I've heard that therewere comfort issues with the
first one, so hopefully that gotresolved.
Yeah, it is at these, and I'veheard that there were comfort
issues with the with the firstone, so hopefully that just got
resolved yeah, it is, uh, just aquick.

Jeff (55:56):
I wasn't planning to talk about it, but they take a 3d
scan of your face and they builda mold for your face, which is
super cool, but part of it islike I like bringing people over
and throwing the goggles onthem and jumping in there and
they can like like holy shit,this is awesome.

Jason (56:10):
I think it's cool both ways.
But yeah, with when you'reright like yo, I got like kind
of like I have my own formulaseat and it's mine yeah, I got
my own goggles, but they're notgoing to get the experience.

Jeff (56:21):
You're not going to be able to explain to them how cool
it is because it's not going tojust fit perfect.
And they have adjust.
The new one's got theadjustable.
You know, I forget what thewhat the term is, when they can
move the lens in and out.
Um, I forget.
It's a funny word.

Jason (56:37):
We know what you mean though.
So you you move the lenses infor yeah got you.

Jeff (56:41):
So here's, here's my follow on.
Question is Eric, you kind ofalluded to it is VR.
I'm not sure we'll get any morepopular than it is, but now
that we're seeing you know Ifollow a bunch of those Facebook
groups, jason, that youmoderate for and a bunch of the
other ones um, those blendedreality video of videos or

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people that are do people areexperienced and are setting up
is next level, where you'reseeing your wheel and the screen
.
You can draw the cut line ofwhere you're seeing it and what
you're seeing it in the blendingis is pretty dope.
Now, it's not the clarity oflenses not being in the way,
right, we're never going to,you're never going to compete
with what you're seeing in reallife.

(57:23):
Um, but it's dope.
If you ask me, like that's whatI'm trying to get set up, where
I can see my stuff, butobviously you know the VR
immersion, so looking around andstuff.
So what's your guys' thoughts?
You think Blended Reality isgoing to eventually kind of
compete with Triples or do youthink Triples is still going to
be?
Take the cake.

Jason (57:44):
I think it will.
I think it'll be the end oftriples.
Um, if it ever comes out and wewe need you know, we need you
guys we need a sim racingmanufacturer that builds a
headset specifically designedfor sim racing.
Because these headsets, thisbig screen company you're
talking about, they, they didn'tstart off making a headset,

(58:07):
they, they started off making anapp which is like a movie
theater that you can go andwatch free movies, which, I'm
guilty, it's kind of coolsitting in a movie theater with
a 100-inch screen and then yougot people around you.

Jeff (58:23):
It's kind of creepy, uh.
So this, so the, the the beyond.
The first one is popular in theum, uh, the sim flying, the um
flight sim, flight sim excuse me.

Jason (58:43):
Yeah, yeah, um, why I?
I don't know it, just it seemedto be everyone I watched was a
was a flight sim dude,especially dcs.
You know um, you're flyingfighter jets and stuff.

Jeff (58:48):
You can fly and any that if it's got wings it'll fly, and
something's without wings?

Jason (58:54):
and I will tell you this there's, if you're a fly, if
you're flying and doing combat,specifically combat in the air,
you're not doing that on triplescreens, you're doing that in a
vr headset.
There's no way you're.
Because you need, because youneed full 360.
You need full 360.
And a car is cool to look atthe roof and look at the sticker
on the dash and look at theshifter down here, but when

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you're racing, your eyes are onthe horizon.
It may be left, it may be right, maybe looking in through a
turn, but it's a very smoothflying bro.
You're looking up down behindyou.

Erick (59:29):
Missile lock oh shit, yeah you're looking up down
behind you missile lock.

Jeff (59:31):
Oh yeah, you're looking down at your gauges and stuff.
And yes, yeah, yeah.

Jason (59:36):
So I think that will be a huge market for for them.
But again, we need somebody, weneed a company that can come
out with I think pymax is theclosest one that's trying to
make that crazy fov that that'slike damn near wraps your entire
face.
And because their focus isgaming, these guys's focus is a

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light headset that you can layin bed with and watch a movie.

Erick (01:00:03):
It's not really yeah, or just wear for a long period of
time and do different tasks likework and stuff like that that
is interesting, though it's justthe price might be a tad um,
yeah, I mean up there I canshare something real quick to
kind of give you a comparison ofwhat you're getting.

Jeff (01:00:21):
I have one other one I can show real quick to compare them
at eye tracking, right orsomething.
Oh yeah, so so here's the newum crystal lenses coming out
this summer, I believe, um, andthis ain't cheap either, dudes
no yeah, you know it's not butit's doing full 4k right um I
believe.
So you're probably right.
So that's a data point, right?

(01:00:42):
Um?
But anyways, more stuff forpeople to do and to pick and
choose from Options, right?
Everybody loves options andcompetition.

Jason (01:00:51):
Right, no, this is great.

Jeff (01:00:53):
This is great.
It's just they got to mountlike a night vision camera that
you go.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, andit comes back down and the
weights on your forehead andstuff not like your nose.
You can ask Eric.

Jason (01:01:06):
Me and Eric.
Eric and I, we would play themini golf game in VR.
Like I joined his room and we'dbe playing golf.

Jeff (01:01:13):
And I can see Eric's.

Jason (01:01:14):
I can see Eric's hand going like this Because he was
drinking it.
But you can't see the trick,but you can see his hand going
like that.

Erick (01:01:23):
He's like hey, you got to have a drink if you're playing
golf.

Jason (01:01:30):
No matter what the form man.
I've tried so many ways to hangout with my homie and it's
finally happening.
In September we were in VRplaying golf.
You can see Eric looking at the.

Erick (01:01:40):
Got to line it up, man, got to line that shot up.

Jason (01:01:44):
I'm like you going nine irons Amateurs.
All right, yeah, all right.

Erick (01:01:51):
Yeah.

Jason (01:01:52):
All right.
Well, that's a great topic,jeff.
I mean, it's good to see thatthere's more options out there
and hopefully at the expo we maybe able to try these things.

Jeff (01:02:03):
huh, I hope that blended reality figured out by then.

Erick (01:02:11):
I don't know about that, man.
Listen, that's a little minuteoff.
Let's start with a vr headsetover there.
And the newest well, you knowwhat jeff, what I'm?
Uh, I'm with you, man, I'mgonna shoot for the moon they'll
.
Maybe somebody will havefigured something out with the
mixed reality by september.
That would make.

Jeff (01:02:26):
Oh I'm just saying I'm just trying to get mine figured
out with my quest 3 by september.
That would make.
Oh, I'm just saying I'm justtrying to get mine figured out
with my quest 3 and you knowwhat people are using virtual
desktop and you know some of theother tools oh, yeah, do it.
Yeah, oh, my bad, I thoughtyeah, I'm just trying to figure
it out with my own go to theexpo and and that be a thing
already at the yeah, that wouldbe, but I'm managing my

(01:02:47):
expectations when it comes tothat, all right.

Erick (01:02:49):
Yeah to your before.
Before we move on, though,jason, to your point, we need I
don't even know if we need a simlike manufacturer to make a
headset, but we need, like thesim hub of vr for sim racing yes
like we need somebody that justkind of pulls in, pulls

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everything together.
The capabilities are there.
You know, the hardware is thesame everything, everything is
there for it, yeah but just youknow something that ties it all
together.
Yeah, and that's a hard market.

Jason (01:03:21):
That's a hard market to sell to people, because most of
us are invested already intomonitors and monitors are
becoming cheaper and cheaper andthey're coming affordable like
yeah, easily sim racing is asmall niche, and then vr in sim
racing is even more another,yeah, yeah, yeah like a stack on

(01:03:43):
top of the other.
Yeah, but it's that time.
What time is it?

Jeff (01:03:46):
well, wait a minute.
We have a little bit of amodification this week.
It's that time what time, is it?

Jason (01:03:48):
Well, wait a minute.
We have a little bit of amodification this week.
It's kind of a special that Ican't wait to hear, because
track of the week is every week,every week.
However, today, jeff hassomething special for us, so I
will hand this over to him so wecan get underway, jeff, what we

(01:04:10):
got this week man, all rightdudes.

Jeff (01:04:13):
So this track of the week is dedicated.
There's a lot of people youknow when evo is coming out.
There's a lot of people like,oh, this is going to be the best
because there's open maps andopen worlds that you just get to
drive around in.
Uh, there's a lot of peoplethat love the um, like the no
hezi servers.
Uh, on content manager, right.
So I figured we would do atrack of the week dedicated to

(01:04:36):
them.
So, without a do, I thinkthat's the same the way it goes.
My track of the week is we'regoing to do standby, standby the
cannonball, the cannonball.
We're going to do stand by,stand by the cannonball, the
cannonball.
Those that don't know what thecannonball is, that's a 43-hour

(01:04:58):
drive man.
Hell yeah.
So I brought this map up.
It starts at and I'm going toshow some pictures here.
It starts at the let's go backup here.
You'll see it on the left there, the Red Ball Garage in
Manhattan, new York.
Okay, the most random streetI'll tell you yeah, so I'll get

(01:05:18):
into why it starts there.
Oh, it does.
That's part of the race.
And it ends in the Portofinohotel in California.
I don't know why it ends there,but I do know why it starts
here, so I'm going to give alittle story.

Jason (01:05:39):
I'm excited for this one.
What's up?
This is?

Jeff (01:05:41):
kind of the the, the story of how uh, drivers.
So, first of all, please,you're going to we're about to
see some times in real worlddriving from New York to
California.
Please, we have to say that youknow we do not condone speed
racing.
Please drive the speed limit,all that other stuff.
But now that we've said that,let's get into the times where
it gets into across the country.

Jason (01:06:01):
So we're not responsible.

Erick (01:06:03):
Don't try this at home Real life no hissy server.

Jeff (01:06:07):
This is exactly what this is.
So, all right, ready.
This dude small picture in 1903, the first coast to coast, the
first cross-country drive fromsan francisco to new york he
went backwards was completed in1903 by george adams wayne on a
1904 california motor companymotorbike.
Uh, or, excuse me, uh, anyways,covered 3,800 miles and it took

(01:06:30):
him, gentlemen, 51 days, sheeshhe had a 10 gallon fuel tank or
5 gallon yeah, I got thepicture here.
So imagine being on that thingfor 51 days, damn bro.
So a name by Edward GeorgeBaker.
He was trying to have kids.
He was trying to have kids huhyeah.

Jason (01:06:50):
Those days are long gone, bro.
So a name by Edward GeorgeBaker Trying to have kids.
Man, what's that?
He's trying to have kids.
He's trying to have kids, huhyeah those days are long gone,
bro.

Erick (01:06:56):
He left those in California.

Jeff (01:06:58):
So a man named Edwin George Baker, who everyone knew
as Cannonball Baker It'd beinteresting how he came up with
the name Cannonball, but that'sprobably for a different podcast
uh, set the coast to coastrecord for driving a car across
the country from new york to lain 1933.
Baker spent the majority of hiscareer prepping for it by
riding transcontinentally on amotorcycle at the time, and the

(01:07:19):
roads he drove were entirelyunpaved.
So this is him, and then here'sthe car oh man, how did the
tires make it?
Dude right, he drove it in 11and a half days.
That's pretty impressive, withunpaved roads, yeah.
So in 1993, baker attempted hislast coast-to-coast drive

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across the United States,completing the trip in 53 hours
and 13 minutes.
To understand how impressivethis time was, remember 19 years
earlier it took him 12 days todo the same thing.
Wow, unlike his previous record, this one he didn't have an
official timekeeper, so it's anunofficial record.
All right, gentlemen, here'swhere it gets interesting.

(01:08:02):
So we're going to move to thisone.
Oh so, we're going to moveforward a little bit here.
But this is where we start toget into the interesting stuff.
In 1971, 38 years after baker'sunofficial record, brock yates
made the race the cannonball ahousehold name.
He called it the cannonballbaker c to shining c memorial
trophy, dash yates.

(01:08:22):
This is the senior editor forcar and driver magazine at the
time.
Brock Yates, steve Smith andJim Williams set out from New
York City in a 1971 Dodge CustomSportsman van known as the Moon
Trash 2.
The Moon Trash, the Moon Trash.
All right, I'm going to read alittle bit here, a little bit of

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history.
The unsanctioned street racewas held in 71, 72, 75, and 79.
It began in New York City andin Darin, connecticut, once, and
ended at the Portofino Inn atRendono Beach, california, in
the perplexing spirit ofcannonball.
This race was both famed as acelebration of the US highway

(01:09:06):
systems and, my favorite part, aprotest against strict traffic
laws, specifically the55-mile-an-hour speed limit
enforced on major highways,especially in California.
Bro, these guys were like, yeah,middle finger, and did their
own thing.
So the rules were that you madeyour own rules.
In March of 71, Car and Driverfeatured an article.

(01:09:26):
Yates said that the parametersof the Arcana Ball were as
follows All competitors willdrive any vehicle of their
choosing over any route at anyspeed they judge practical.
Between the starting point andthe destination the competitor
is finished when the lowest timeelapsed is the winner.
So they used to do it in allone go and you could take any

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route.
On November 15, 1971, these twogentlemen drove a Kurt F White
Ferrari Daytona Coupe to thefinish in 35 hours and 45
minutes, notably only 53 minutesfaster than the second-place
team.
That's wild huh.
They only beat the second-placeteam by less than an hour.

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Half of the teams that startedgot speeding tickets.

Jason (01:10:14):
That was my next question .
They're not following trafficrules, are they?
Oh no.

Erick (01:10:20):
They're wide open.

Jason (01:10:21):
I mean look they got Porsches, you know.

Erick (01:10:25):
Yeah, they ain't going 55 in those.

Jeff (01:10:26):
So you guys seeing the pictures as I'm changing them
here, yep, all right.
so picture seven or uh we'relooking at the porsches, yeah,
so the reason that they chosethe red bull or, uh, the red
ball garage is because that'swhere car and driver kept all
their cars that they were doingarticles on and tests on.

(01:10:48):
So that's kind of a cool story.
They just kept them all thereand like, oh, we're going to
start somewhere, might as wellstart at our garage.
So in 1975, jack May and RickCarley drove the Daytona, the
Ferrari Dino, in 35 hours, 53minutes, at an average speed of
81 miles an hour.
So think about that.
It's one thing to drive 81 milesan hour for 35 hours, but think

(01:11:11):
about it when you stop and getgas for 10 minutes and you're at
zero, yeah, you know to stillclaim 81 miles an hour.
So here's a cool story foryates vehicle on this run was uh
, one of the other dudes drove adodge ambulance with a magnum
440 engine.
An An ambulance.

Erick (01:11:29):
Because they were like.

Jeff (01:11:30):
Paul, if I'm driving an ambulance, I'm never going to
get pulled over.
Within moments of his departure, the ambulance broke down and
needed repairs that took lessthan an hour.
Needless to say, he completedthe race, but it was nowhere
beating the record.
And while Yates used thedisguise of an ambulance,
another team simply put a coolerinside their jaguar xjs.

(01:11:53):
When pulled over for speeding,they said we're rushing to save
a child's site officer.
They were both physicians, butthe context of the cooler was a
pig's eye.
This is this is what's going onbro that's hilarious man, so in
1997, the official times had tostop because eventually they

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realized that somebody was goingto get killed and like, car and
driver couldn't be associated,um, couldn't be associated.
But but at the time, dude, like, check out the vibes at the
starting of these things, ohyeah, I mean that that just
screams, like you know, theearly 70s uh late 70s, early 80s
right oh, yeah, now what?

Erick (01:12:33):
you gonna do this weekend .
I'm about to drive 100 miles anhour across the country, baby
till.

Jason (01:12:37):
I hit empty keep going okay.

Jeff (01:12:42):
So this is where we start to get back.

Jason (01:12:44):
Then you didn't have tolls right back.
I'm assuming there was no tollroad back then yeah, dude it
must have been wide open,especially cut into the country
yeah so I'm gonna kind of diginto a little bit out here, but
um, all right

Jeff (01:12:58):
so we are on, uh, 1980s, uh in, what would become the
final?
So eventually they stoppednaming it the cannonball and
called it the us express.
Basically same thing, justdifferent name.
Doug toner and david dm beatthe cannonball record they still
use the same records taking thewin in 32 hours and seven
minutes, and that record stoodfor 20 years, damn man.

(01:13:19):
So here's.
This is why I brought this oneup.
This dude, turner and dm werethe first people to use a plane
as a scouting tool during thedrive.
Because of that, their attemptwas met with some scrutiny as
people leave the plane.
Was the use of cheating?
Yeah, definitely they had a.
So they had a plane.
They had a plane that would flyahead of them and be like yep,

(01:13:39):
no, cops, just hammer down, keepgoing.
And they just did that as.
But the plane, like a littleplane, can't just keep going
right, so it involves somelogistics to keep doing that.
Yeah, in 1983, the us expressran into a roadblock, literally
and figuratively, a riddle,literal police roadblock where
the cannibal movie was released.
In 1981, the police weresuddenly very aware of the

(01:14:01):
underground racing scene.
Oh, it got out.
Yep, so as things, all goodthings.

Jason (01:14:08):
Potentially come to an end.

Jeff (01:14:14):
So after that they started coming up with some different
classes the TranscontinentalMotorized Vehicular Tournament
of Efficiency and Endurance.
This one's cool, it's calledthe 1904.
It's the unofficial race thatgoes from you guessed it New
York City to California.
The catch you have to, what youhave to do to drive in the
class of vehicle, is that itcosts no more than two thousand

(01:14:35):
nine hundred and four dollars.
If you didn't know, it's twothousand nine hundred and four
miles.
That's where they come up withthe two thousand.
All right so that includes thevehicle, fuel, food and tolls
and repairs and if you get anytickets, you have to stay under
that to be considered.
Uh, you know eligible yeah, sothere's a picture of um, uh, so

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if those that follow vin wiki onyoutube, he is a super big into
this, he has some unbelievablestories.
This is him getting ready to go, uh, as the blues brothers or
something like that.
Um, but anyways, uh, follow himif you want some more stories
on this.
So here's 11.
So this is where, like,technology starts to get
involved.
With the end of the U S express, the cannibal run became an

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individual endeavor, with thesingle teams making the run to
try to break the overall record.
So they went like randomlythroughout the time and while
many attempts have goneunpublicized over the years, the
teams that have broken therecord have mostly been
extremely vocal about it afterthe statue of limitations is up
in 2006, alex roy david ma beatthe cannonball record run with a

(01:15:37):
time of 31 hours and fourminutes in a bmw n5.
They didn't release their uh thestory for a year later in their
uh uh the book the driver in2007.

Jason (01:15:50):
What that's modern times man.
Right so in 2013,.

Jeff (01:15:54):
David Bolian, who I spoke, talked to about earlier.
David Black and Dan Hangendrove a 2004 Mercedes CL 55 AMG
across the country and here thisis killer Nice 28 minutes, 50
minutes.
What An astonishing feat tobreak the 30 hour mark 28 hours,
not 28 minutes.

Jason (01:16:09):
I'm sorry.
Yeah, 28 hours, 50 minutes.
What An astonishing feat tobreak the 30-hour mark 28 hours,
not 28 minutes, I'm sorry.

Jeff (01:16:11):
Yeah, 28 hours, 50 minutes .
I'm sorry.
I don't even know, if a fighterjet could do that, breaking the
silence.

Erick (01:16:19):
I was about to say Is that your formula?

Jeff (01:16:21):
Yeah, he chose the car because of its understated looks
, making it more likely to gounnoticed.
That's exactly what Cannonballhas wanted.
He averaged 98 miles an hourthe car had 67 gallons of fuel.
67 gallons of fuel, yeah, dude,because if you're stopped at
the gas station, that's a zerofor speed.

Jason (01:16:41):
And you're not moving at all.
That's the whole backseat, thetrunk.

Erick (01:16:46):
Yeah, sam think about that.

Jeff (01:16:47):
That makes sense, rob nonstop like yeah, ah, think
about that.
That makes sense.
Rob non-stop.
Yeah, so they had a total of uh, they were only stopped for 46
minutes the whole trip.
He has a really cool story ifyou listen to his youtube
channel about how he made itfrom he he fueled up at one
station with his credit card,got so far so fast, swiped his
credit card and it got declinedbecause the bank was like

(01:17:11):
there's no way you can get fromhere to here so it's got to be
fraud.
And he's like no, no, authorizeit, authorize it.

Erick (01:17:17):
He's trying to go that's hilarious.

Jeff (01:17:21):
So, um, okay, uh, I'm on.
Uh, so 12 um, I'm a little bitbehind on pictures here, but
we'll keep going.
It wasn't long, uh, so thenthey kept going.
It's down to 27 hours and 25minutes.
So here's where it gets alittle bit interesting.
Uh, it, it kind of sucks.

(01:17:42):
Like most things with COVIDruined everything.
So during the COVID-19 pandemic, cannonball error uh, many
people were hunkering downduring the stay-at-home pandemic
that hit the world really inMarch of 2020.
But others took the road.
Because, why?
Because everybody's at home andnobody's on the road.
The biggest problem is traffic.
If you read about these guys,they hit traffic and that really

(01:18:03):
hammered kills them.
But the dudes that werepassionate about the cannonball
were like there's nobody on theroad, I could just hammer down
dudes.
They went from almost 30 hoursand in the COVID era, the
current top time that was doneallegedly during COVID was 25
hours 39 minutes Damn.

(01:18:24):
That's just over a day theydrove a 2016 Audi S6 disguised
as a Ford Taurus policeinterceptor, to a record of 25
hours Averaged 110 miles an hourfor the whole thing.

Jason (01:18:35):
There we go.

Jeff (01:18:36):
They reached the top speed of 175 miles an hour and had
over 30 spotters.
Damn Jeez the car had 600horsepower, upgraded heat
exchangers, custom tune trunkmounted mounted, extra 45 gallon
fuel tank additional to the 22that it had you know stock bro,
you need an oil change rightwhen you get to california, like

(01:18:57):
right away.
Oh yeah, oh dude, look at theircar they had they had a host of
police evasion of evasivemodifications installed to the
car, including radar detectors,laser diffusers, cb radio, brake
light kill switch and, to topit off, a roof mounted thermal
camera to spot wildlife at nightand please what's going?

Erick (01:19:17):
on but, they're serious man.
They thought everything that'sinsane so hey, I'm with it.

Jeff (01:19:26):
That is your today's track of the week.
California or New York city,manhattan to California, the
coast, 28 minutes or 28 hours.
It's not a movie about this manCannonball run baby came out in
the eighties, so there's acouple of documentaries.
It's called apex, apex two.
I think I haven't watched it,but a reading about it I'll do

(01:19:48):
it.
I'm going to probably give it awatch, but, uh, dude, so
normally takes you 43 hours pergoogle maps that I ran this
morning and these dudes aredoing it in 25 hours averaging
110 miles an hour.
So, like, if you stop for oneminute and get zero, what does
it do to at that speed?
You know so, anyways, it'scrazy next time you're on no
hezi.

(01:20:09):
Think about you like you'regoing across the country on a
cannonball run dude, I'm shockedby this.

Jason (01:20:15):
I've never heard of this.

Jeff (01:20:16):
That's a you've never heard of it dude, check out vin
wiki, ed bolean cannonballstories.
They are world class.
Listen them to while you'regoing to uh to work or something
, or in the car after you'relist done.
Listen to the chicane podcastfor there you go um, they're,
they're they're good stories.
Listen to us first.

Jason (01:20:35):
Dude like charisma, but he's it's a killer channel yeah,
we'll leave all the links tothis amazing story is crazy.
And to think that it's stillgoing on, man, you know you
would think a lot of people gotaway with stuff in the 70s and
the 80s.
Of course that's when thingswere fun and then they took the
fun away, yeah.

Jeff (01:20:55):
So I mean, but people are doing it, you know, they take
pictures of their GPS device anda picture of the garage in the
background, and same thing whenyou get back, same device, and
that's kind of how they do it.
But kind of how they do it, butuh, and then they sit on it for
a year.

Jason (01:21:14):
Yeah, to let it, to let it cool down.
You know low, keep it low key.
So yeah, that's kind of cool.
Anyways, that's a little bitdifferent track of the week.
Uh no, that's great.
That's great.
That's that.
That was today's special.
I was excited because jeff wason the phone.
He's like he's.
I got an idea and I was likeman, what is it?
Then he started telling me bitsand pieces of it and I was was
like don't tell me no more,because the story is way too
good.
We need to share this out.
We're not condoning this typeof behavior.

(01:21:35):
Okay, like Jeff said, we arenot supporting it, but you know
it's an interesting story.
How about that?

Jeff (01:21:43):
And there's still an active community that does this.

Jason (01:21:47):
Maybe we have one of the listeners, but anyways, yeah,
super cool they won't tell usmaybe until a year out, so we'll
let you know in about a year'stime.
All right, gentlemen, so wehave reached the end of our show
.
If you may, I will like to do ashout out here.
We got some emails in and Idon't specifically know the

(01:22:15):
order, so I'm gonna let you guys.
I'm gonna start with eric.
I think there was one addressedto you specifically, so I'll
let you take that one please yes, sir.

Erick (01:22:25):
So this email the title of it is says for eric, uh,
seven magic 3d printed and shortand sweet.
But I appreciate it.
I'm gonna put my uh, mysweatshop, to work with this as
soon as we get done.
But uh, it's from harry m andhe says hello, jason, jeff, eric

(01:22:45):
.
I'm not sure if you guys have adiscord, but in a recent
episode Eric showed his quickdisconnect wheel stand.
Would you be able to pass thisversion along to Eric, as it is
much easier to remove as you canjust lift it on and off?
I replied to this make withpictures of the GT, neo and
round wheel and I'm going topull this up and show a picture

(01:23:09):
of it because if you guys everseen mine, try to grab it
without knocking everything off.

Jason (01:23:18):
Good, I see man.

Erick (01:23:20):
Yeah, so this is mine.
I've got my little round wheelhere some magic and it has the
little quick connect hub.
It's got the little spots forthe ball bearings in it, but you
actually have to actuate thequick connect to get it on and
off, which it's your will.

(01:23:41):
You like that security?
Just real quick.
What Harry M's?
Just real quick.
Um, what uh harry m's design iswhich I'm gonna print
immediately?
Uh, it's this guy right here.
So if more, filament, there itis hey look, more filament, but

(01:24:02):
the fact that it just drops inyou slide it in.
Yeah, I'm like, oh, that's yeah, there you go, you and these
ads.
Man, listen, this isthingiverse, this ain't me you
know what?

Jeff (01:24:19):
you ain't got that on the bamboo.

Erick (01:24:20):
Send feedback all right but yeah, but uh, huge shout out
to harry m appreciate theappreciate you listening and
taking the time to send theemails and appreciate you, you
know, helping support our 3Dprinting habit.

Jason (01:24:36):
Yeah, definitely so, jeff .
Which one would you like to goover?
Man, I got two more, which iskind of cool when they come in
threes, right?

Jeff (01:24:44):
All right, dudes, I'll take the next one from Skeets,
so anyway.
So today, after watching yourpodcast thanks for the watch
there, buddy my FSR2 wheelarrived.
That's a sharp wheel, man.
That's a good looking wheel.
Oh yeah, my start was the MazdaR5 with the wheel at Sugo.
I could not go under.

(01:25:06):
I'm assuming that's 130.
When I installed the wheel, mytimes dropped to a crazy 126.6.

Jason (01:25:14):
All right, my man.

Jeff (01:25:15):
Was that a solid three and a half seconds with?

Jason (01:25:18):
just the wheel.
I'm telling you, man, you lookgood, you play good.

Jeff (01:25:21):
The same thing applies in golf.
Exactly, I love that I feellike I'm part of the real
community.

Jason (01:25:29):
Hell yeah, you are Welcome Welcome.

Jeff (01:25:32):
And I hear you do when you get a new, that wheel, and it's
one that you've been looking atand you're like you just get it
and it just speaks to youEspecially the one like I think
yours, has got the monitor onand everything the screen on it.

Jason (01:25:44):
Yeah, no-transcript.

(01:26:09):
And even so, man, you shouldjoin us at the Sim Racing Expo.
We have a 10% off if you wouldlike to come and hang out and
feel even bigger part of it,even bigger.
So we'll, we'll get to meet youin person and and and welcome
you personally to the sim racingcommunity.
It's, it's here and it's herefor everybody.

(01:26:31):
So that that one touches myheart.
You know, good on you andyou're improving your lap times.
That makes the purchase athousand percent worth it
justifiable now, justified rightnow exactly yep, but you
started with.

Erick (01:26:46):
They gave it to me, and now, I need it so all right.

Jason (01:26:50):
So I'll take the final email.
And again, I really love thisis my favorite part of the show
is reading the fan mail.
This is my favorite part of theshow.
We have a third email come inthis week.
I'm going to butcher this.
Conaseg the car fan.

Erick (01:27:08):
Oh yeah Conaseg.
Oh yeah Conig, Seg yeah Conig.

Jason (01:27:10):
Seg yeah Conig.

Jeff (01:27:11):
Seg Wicked expensive ones.

Jason (01:27:13):
A nice, beautiful car that I can't afford.
Um hello, jason, jeff and Eric.
I have been watching you guyssince last September, when you
guys started to dive into someiRacing episodes.
Really been enjoying tuning ineach week throughout my day.
Thank you so much.
I used to play a lot of Forzawith my dad when I was around 10

(01:27:39):
years old and then, when Ibecame 13, got myself a Fanatec
setup and a basic PC so I couldplay a set of Corsa chasing a
more realistic feel Right.
Right.
So far, so good.
After about 4,000 hours, howdid you get?

Erick (01:27:53):
That escalated quickly.
He said he's 13.

Jason (01:27:57):
He said he's 13.
Okay, so about 4,000 hours On aset of Corsa.
I sold my simulator a couple ofyears back.
Now I'm building a new one withtriple monitors and SimMagic.
You know, Eric, that's going tomy simulator a couple years
back now, building a new onewith triple monitors and sim
magic.
You know eric, that's gonnaspeak to eric, right there, yes,
uh, as he pens his sim magicwheel.

(01:28:18):
Um, currently planned out mostof my pc and figured I would
rock a 7800 x3d with a 7800 XT,assuming all AMD.
Right, that's both AMD, whichis a great build a great build,
by the way, gpu but have no ideawhat to look for with a

(01:28:38):
motherboard, since I plan onhaving a lot of USBs and want to
make sure I have some headroomand not buying the bare minimum.
Money is limited, as I'm 19,working as a mechanic and I have
a GR86, which I will share,this beautiful GR86 that he was
kind enough to share with us.
Oh yeah, it's clean and I'llput that on this.

(01:28:59):
It's very clean, very nicevehicle.

Erick (01:29:05):
A nice backdrop too.

Jason (01:29:06):
I like the backdrop man.

Erick (01:29:07):
Nice picture, buddy.
Yeah, that's what I was goingto say, man.
The photography skills arethere, man.

Jeff (01:29:11):
I mean that looks like it's like AI faked.
It's that good.
Yeah man yeah so he has a nicespec car and stuff like the
wheels.

Jason (01:29:19):
Very nice, super clean.
Yeah, I like the trees.
I'm trying to guess where thisis at, but he says I like to
take to real events and modify.
Hopefully you guys can give mesome good insight on PC building
and how to set up multiplemonitors to work together.

(01:29:40):
Apologize if I said a lot noneed for apologies but I really
appreciate what you guys do.
But I really appreciate whatyou guys do.
I really appreciate what youguys do and you guys do a good
job at it and I hope the podcastis able to continue to grow and
receive the love it deserves.
Thank you so much, thanks forthe kind words.

Erick (01:30:02):
Yeah, appreciate that.

Jason (01:30:03):
Super kind man that's touching bro Telling you I don't
want to get all emotional onthe show especially during the
closing time.
You know?
Also, jason, looks like we'veheard some bragging about the
stream.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, dtr.
Yeah, DTR joined my stream.
So that's who you are.
Okay, okay, all right, so youknow what You're in luck, man,

(01:30:32):
because just a few episodes backwe covered on pc building, um,
and all the options out there.
But just to answer this onequickly, to give you the
personalized answer, withmotherboards, I recommend msi.
Any um, any msi board or anyROG is a good one.
I have an MSI you have an MSI,it doesn't really matter too

(01:30:55):
much, as long as it's areputable brand.
I know Eric's running aGigabyte and that's a reputable
brand.
They've been makingmotherboards before you were
born.
I promise you that.

Erick (01:31:07):
Yeah, that's the truth.

Jason (01:31:09):
That is the truth.

Erick (01:31:10):
It's crazy.

Jason (01:31:11):
So don't pay attention to how many USBs it has.
I want you to pay attention tohow much bandwidth the
motherboard has, because if amotherboard has 20 USB slots
which I've never seen before,I'm just exaggerating and
they're all 2.0 slots, that'suseless to me.
I want to see something.

(01:31:32):
You already have a AM5 chip, soall the motherboards that are
being designed for that 7800X3Dchip is going to have the high
bandwidth.
So I would suggest things thathave 3.1 USBs.
So that way, if you want to getinto streaming and you buy an

(01:31:53):
Elgato camera, elgato is goingto want you to use a 3.0 USB and
even if you plug into a hublet's say you have a 2.0 slot
and then you have a 3.0 hubyou're downgrading that hub to a
2.0.
You know what I'm trying to say.
So just pay attention to thebandwidth, not the amount of

(01:32:15):
USBs, because we can alwaysexpand the USBs, no problem, by
purchasing the, and it doesn'tmatter how many USBs your
motherboard has.
You're going to need to buy anextension at some point.
I can promise you that there'snever enough.
So that's my take, quick take.
Feel free to message me, emailthe group, the show or comment

(01:32:39):
below.
Let us know what you ended upwith, or if you're stuck between
choosing one, you can hit us upand we'll give you some.
We'll walk you through on thepath that I suggest you take,

(01:33:01):
because I don't want to again.
I'm not trying to beincognizant of the price and
motherboards thank Godmotherboards are relatively
inexpensive.
There's some flashy flashythings going on with the LEDss
and all this stuff, but youdon't need that.
But we, we care more about theperformance than performance
overlooks all day, every day.
So that's my take for today,guys.
Um, thank you so much, umconestig fan, for joining my

(01:33:26):
stream and for hitting us up onthe show.
I really appreciate you and Iappreciate all the messages
we've had so far up up to thispoint.
Today is the 50th episode ofthe chicane podcast and it's
looking very bright for us.
Um, so far.
I'm really happy to do the showevery week and it's just a

(01:33:48):
great feeling.

Jeff (01:33:49):
Yo, we got 52 episodes.
It's wild to think where wecame from.
Yeah.

Jason (01:33:56):
Which we'll get into, I'm sure, on that episode, yeah,
we'll have a little special,hopefully.
So with that guys, I guess thisis our.
What do you call this?
I'm ready to close the show.
This is the end here.
I can't.
I don't have the words in myhead.
It's like gone.
What do I say?
The round table?
There it is the round table,any round tables, anything.

(01:34:17):
We forgot Jeff Eric.

Jeff (01:34:20):
Drive fast, break late.
Boom.
Didn't need to be right-mindedtoday.

Jason (01:34:24):
There it is, man, I'm on the spot today.
That's the standard man.
That should come naturally.

Erick (01:34:28):
Oh yeah.

Jason (01:34:29):
And to all you viewers and listeners out there, have a
great start of your week, thankyou.

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