March 24, 2025 • 61 mins
"It's like the Jetsons, but it's here now." These words perfectly capture the excitement coursing through the sim racing community as affordable 3D printing technology transforms what's possible for home racing setups. In this tech-packed episode, Jason, Eric, and Jeff share their journey into the world of 3D printing, revealing how this once-futuristic technology has become an essential part of their sim racing evolution.
The conversation takes a major turn as we dive into Moza's market-disrupting hardware announcements. Their new force feedback shifter offers 12Nm of torque with incredible versatility—functioning as an H-pattern shifter, sequential, handbrake, or even a flight stick. But the true showstopper is their M Booster active pedal, priced at $799-$999, less than half the cost of competitors like Simicube. We explore the important question on everyone's mind: can this budget-friendly option deliver comparable performance to its premium-priced rivals?
The team also explores iRacing's latest update, which brings significant graphic improvements that make third-party visual enhancement tools obsolete. We challenge preconceptions about NASCAR sim racing, with the hosts agreeing that oval racing delivers some of the most intense and challenging virtual racing experiences available. The episode wraps with valuable insights on overcoming VR motion sickness, offering practical tips that could help more sim racers experience the immersion of virtual reality racing.
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Jason (00:20):
The Hello and welcome to the Chicane Podcast, where we
discuss all things in the simracing world.
I'm your host, Jason Rivera,and I'm joined here by Mr Eric
(00:41):
Kelly and Jeff Smart.
How's everybody doing today?
Jeff (00:45):
Doing good, doing good, dude, we got some stuff to talk
about.
There's been a lot of news inthe sim racing world in the past
week.
We got a lot of stuff today.
I'm telling you.
Jason (00:55):
Q2 came, it's here and they're lighting a fire on the
market which, eric, has all thegoodies for us today.
Welcome back everybody.
Everybody's in good shape.
It seems like we're runningthrough the year right 2025,
already approaching April.
Jeff (01:16):
I can't believe it.
Week one of F1's under our belt.
Erick (01:18):
A little bit wet weekend.
Jeff (01:21):
Oh yeah, oh yeah and when this hits the streets, we'll be
done week two, I guess.
Jason (01:25):
Huh yeah, in china listen and please don't tell the seven
time world champion how todrive a car.
You're pissing the guy off onthe first, on the opening gp hey
, I heard k1's available.
I don't want to use it rightnow he's like, I'll let you know
I'm not close enough, stop itlike, like.
Erick (01:49):
Please don't repeat it.
Jason (01:50):
Please say it one time, that's it all right, so let's
get into some announcements thisweek.
Obviously we have a plethora ofstuff to cover which which I'm
going to let that sink in themain discussion.
But for me, for myself, it'sbeen nothing but a lot of
(02:12):
plastic in the TGSR studio, alot of burning plastic, melting
plastic.
It's 3D printing and again Iapologize if today we go over 3D
printing.
Please mute the video.
Please don't.
Jeff (02:29):
But yeah, we're like three new kids with a new toy.
Jason (02:34):
It's the toy for adults, I'm telling you, and it's the
toy that everybody wants to usein the house, and I'm pretty
sure the gentleman here canattest.
So I mean, I'm running twoprinters now and I did a preview
of uh, of my studio.
If you want to check it out,it's on instagram so you can see
what, what it looks like in inthe background.
(02:57):
Um, what else?
Nothing, nothing, really elsefor me.
I like that.
Um gro uh.
Season 12 for the porschestarted today, at the time of
this recording, which isthursday today, uh, and we had
37 porsches on the track.
So thank you so much for thenew users that signed up.
(03:20):
If you're curious, and if youjust found this video and you're
curious what GRL is, pleaselook in the videos.
We have two videos already thatwe made on the league and it's
been fantastic.
That's it for me.
I'll pass this over to Mr Kelly.
Erick (03:41):
Yeah, as far as announcements go been 3D
printing.
You see, yeah, um, as far asannouncements go been 3d
printing, like you see, I it's.
Like you said, it's the, it'sthe hobby for adults, but it's
also they.
They've made leaps and boundswith the printers, so it's a lot
more hands-off, a lot moreefficient.
(04:01):
It it's just.
I can't.
My mind is still blown at thepossibility of going to sleep
and there being just an emptybed and waking up and I have a
thing on there.
I printed this last night.
Jason (04:18):
It's like bro oh no.
Jeff (04:23):
It's cool man.
Jason (04:24):
That looks solid.
Wait, wait, you got the QR what.
Rob Markman Jr.
Yes, Okay, look how solid.
Look, he's struggling to getthat wheel off.
That tells you right there, rob.
Erick (04:34):
Markman Jr.
So this is specifically for SipMagic.
Jeff (04:38):
Yo, it's even got the logo put on and everything.
Erick (04:41):
Rob Markman Jr.
Yeah, if I had AMS I could havedid multicolor.
Jason (04:44):
And carbon fiber.
Erick (04:46):
Yeah, carbon fiber and even I can't focus here.
Yeah, and so it's set up forthe QR.
There's a little bit of stuffup there from the supports, but
it prints in two pieces and youput them together.
This one I actually reached outto the guy guy designed it
(05:06):
because he made one that wasshorter and I asked him if he
had a taller one with an a1profile and he was like sure,
and dropped this in there andlike I say it's.
it's like when I first picked itup off the printer, like this
is like solid that might havetaken a minute, huh yeah, like
this, took probably about 5hours to print just this stem
(05:29):
piece cause of the wallsprobably yeah, solid this is
pretty much solid filament here.
I took a chunk out of the rollhuh yeah, but you know that's
the price you pay and yeah, lookat that, no worries, just snap
the wheel on no delicacy?
Jason (05:50):
none at all, man but yeah , looks good over there, it's a
conversation piece you need toplug it in to get the wheel to
light up in the background.
Erick (05:59):
I was gonna talk I was gonna talk to you about that
because I need that to happen,because I originally wanted to
put them on the wall, but thenI'm like I got a 3D printer I
can print stands.
He's like I ain't got time forthese Kind of dope man, so yeah.
Jason (06:12):
And then you got the shelves too.
I see you with the shelves,yeah.
Erick (06:15):
Yeah, 3d printed those floating shelves there's three
of them, I don't know, just kindof having that for the PC space
.
Some other stuff I printed inthe past, like a little Porsche
that's nice clean too a deskversion.
Jason (06:31):
They got the big, they got a 60 inch version.
Erick (06:35):
I want to print the wall version.
Jason (06:36):
I don't have the room for it.
Erick (06:38):
I don't have the room because in my mind, like right
above this desk right here, theproblem is if that print, if it
fails, it ain't importantBecause there's so many pieces,
like the amount of filament andtime.
I got anxiety about that.
I'm tempted to, but it's beenprinting more stuff for the rig.
(06:59):
Like this is for the powerswitch.
Jason (07:01):
Dude, this guy.
Erick (07:03):
This is a strain relief for the USB.
The USB and the power Focus up.
Look at that.
It even says it.
It's stuff that you would.
At this point I'm pretty niceto have Just customizing stuff,
(07:25):
cleaning it up, and it's great.
Jason (07:29):
I mean, I've been on the same kind of journey.
I'll show what I printed out astand for that carbon fiber.
You can see my face now.
It's just a stand to hold themup, and that's the texture that
we looked at on the website,just so you guys can see what it
, what it legit looks like.
And they are double-sided soyou can print on both sides.
(07:52):
And here's the other, the othertexture that I have there.
See if the light can kind ofgrab it there.
Yeah, you see it there anyways.
That, anyways, that's part ofthe addiction.
Right, it's the honeymoon phase.
We're going to print all kindsof shit and even things that we
don't need.
We're still going to print themjust to see.
(08:13):
Oh yeah, just to see I got thisstuff that I printed for me.
Erick (08:18):
Like my wife, she's been sending me stuff, she's got a
watch charger oh, she's got alist, bro, for you.
Yeah, tablet stand and all kindof little stuff Same here.
The more she starts going downthat rabbit hole, I'm sure going
to get a lot more stuff.
Jason (08:34):
Oh yeah, Jeff, what do you have to say?
Jeff (08:37):
bro Out with it, my problem is my wife got it and
she saw me printing some stuffout and she's like how you doing
that?
So she went out there and gotthe.
She went out and got the bamboolab app.
So like if, as soon as theprinter goes idle, you got like,
and my, and then my dad, youknow he's on vacation out here
(08:58):
hanging out and he downloadedthe app.
So if that printer is idle atthe moment, it goes idle and
it's cleared off with the nextprint, well, you better send
something to it because somebodyelse is.
So we like we just finished andmy wife got the.
Uh, she just put something forthe, for the crocs, the kids,
you know, the kids got the croc,little things on them, oh she
printed that out.
Uh, nice, yeah, so she, um, butlike about that the first time.
(09:20):
So I got, we went, I got somenew speakers for the surround
sound in the living room and I'mon Amazon looking for mounts
for them so they can mount tothe wall and stuff, and I'm like
wait a second, yeah, let mejump in there.
Not only do they have mounts,but they got mounts for the
speaker making model that I have, yeah, the one-to-one, yeah.
(09:41):
And then, oh, you don't likethat one.
They got ones that like rotateand pivot and all this other
stuff.
So, yeah, it was cool.
I had like two custom ones andthen, you know, just like small
little shelf speakers.
They look awesome, save $60.
Easy.
Jason (09:57):
So… that's the first time that you're saving a large
chunk of cash.
In the long run they'll pay forthemselves, I think, in the
long run.
Jeff (10:08):
And then, when in doubt, I'm just printing off cable
management clips for the rig.
There's more cable managementhere on the rig now than there
ever has been.
Jason (10:16):
These printers got here last week.
They haven't stopped up untilwe had to record this episode.
Yeah, exactly.
They're probably questioning didhe get tired?
But this studio has been justnothing but all night.
(10:40):
Anyway, again, we are notBamboo Lab sponsors.
We all got Bamboo Lab printers.
I would love to be one.
I would wear a shirt.
We're just sharing out thewonderful hobby that we explored
late, because 3D printing hasbeen here for a while.
But it's very differentwatching someone print something
than you having something inyour house, and all three of us
(11:01):
can agree to that, I think.
Erick (11:05):
I mean very different owning.
It's the, it's the future, butit's here like it's I mean it's
yeah, like um.
I think last week neil wassaying it's like the jetsons, or
somebody referred to that.
That's exactly what it feelslike, like cartoons, when they
depict the future and they havea little box and they close the
door and open it up andsomething disappears there.
Jason (11:26):
That's that's like something being beamed down to
you, so yeah, you're 100, right.
Jeff (11:31):
So I forget what I printed and I brought it down.
I showed my dad and my parent,my mom and dad, and it was hard
for them to like, understand.
Like when you say you press thebutton and we birthed it, like,
and it we it appeared like it'shard for them to understand.
You know, like how it works.
You know like, boom, it's apicture on a computer and an
(11:52):
hour later, boom, I have it inmy hand, solid reality.
Jason (11:56):
It's like the jetsons.
Jeff (11:57):
That's the funniest analogy I've heard in a long
time it's the.
Erick (12:00):
It's the closest thing, man.
Yeah, that's the closest thingI can, but god bamboo.
Jeff (12:04):
That's the closest thing I can.
But God bamboo sure makes iteasy and like just easy.
Jason (12:09):
Right, and we're just talking.
This is not just a sim racingprinting machine.
It's an appliance.
Now, this is definitely part ofthe home.
It's an appliance.
This is a tool.
That's this is a.
Let me stop, bro.
Let me stop On to the show.
Jeff, how was your week?
I mean that's part of your week.
Jeff (12:31):
Yeah, yeah.
No, it's been good.
It's spring break for the kids,so spending some time with him
yeah, racing a bunch, which I'llget into it here in my topic
here, but that was good man.
Jason (12:50):
Boy.
We got a lot to cover today,though.
All right, yes, we do, and andI don't again, I don't want to
hammer the the followers of theshow appreciate you all.
Um, yes, but 3d printing?
I am open to any questions, andso are so are, so is jeff, and
so is eric.
So keep those comments coming.
Those are fun.
We love seeing those.
Um, anyways, I will pass thison to eric for the first topic
of the day.
Um, yeah, what are we?
(13:11):
What are we talking about,brother?
Erick (13:13):
so, uh, there's a little company who makes emracing
products called moza.
You might have heard of themthey.
They uh shook things up today.
Well, yesterday, uh, theyreleased a new product and they
released several products, butin reality I think two at most
(13:33):
are really kind of still in theshow.
I start out with the you knowbasically the secondary one
first.
So this is one of the thingsthey released.
It's a force feedback base.
Right, I call it a base becauseit's a shifter.
It can be a handbrake, it canbe a sequential, it can be h
(13:57):
pattern, six speed, seven speeduh, and it has 12 newton meters
uh of torque 12 newton meters ona shifter damn yes yes, and
they were talking about some ofthe things that you could
emulate with it and even, likeyou know, missing gears when
you're shifting.
They can simulate that, um, whenit's a sequential, like I, I
(14:22):
don't do much shifting, but theywere talking about with the
amount of torque it can createlike a lot of resistance, almost
like a bump stop.
You can adjust that, like asfar as travel and stuff.
It's.
It's pretty interesting, uh, tobe honest.
Uh, I think we're talking aboutthis with somebody else on the
podcast.
Jason (14:41):
We're like they're marketing flight.
Sticks with it.
You see that.
Jeff (14:44):
Yeah Dang, those aren't cheap, huh.
Jason (14:46):
Yep, the flight sticks.
Jeff (14:49):
Yeah, just the stick on the top of the thing is $180.
Jason (14:52):
Bro, look at a Verpo stick.
You're looking at $1,000 for astick.
Sheesh yeah.
It's kind of cheap this iswhere I'd be down here.
Erick (15:02):
Yeah, that's where I'd be .
$40 shifter knob $40,.
Jason (15:05):
Yeah, Let her rip tater chip or just print one, whatever
.
Erick (15:11):
Oh yeah, hey look, you got it right, man you damn right
they're coming out with thatdumb adapters.
So 12 peak.
Jeff (15:24):
It'd be cool, if you have, you know, the moza clutch, if
they could integrate that,because it would be a software
thing, right, hmm, where itdoesn't give you the gear if
your clutch isn't in yeah, andthat actually would be pretty
simple yeah.
Erick (15:44):
Because it's kind of like a binary thing.
Jason (15:47):
There is that shifter that I'm looking at printing the
one that Vlad mentioned.
Jeff (15:51):
Yeah.
Jason (15:52):
The one he built, and it has that feature in it, and
that's what I'm waiting for.
Jeff (16:00):
So they're really pushing the flight sims on this too, and
racing huh.
Erick (16:04):
Yeah, I feel like racing is kind of secondary.
I think that this will probablybe targeted more towards the
Flight Sim guys.
I think it'd be cool, but theywere just from their marketing
(16:25):
it seems to be pretty heavilygeared toward being beneficial
for Flight Sims to use it.
For that, I think they did agreat, great job of, you know,
consolidating products, becauseyou buy this base and it's
essentially whatever you need.
Jason (16:34):
yeah, that makes it worth it, because you have two in one
, basically, or three in one, soyou got a sequential flight
stick and an h pattern yeah, andyeah, it's handbrake, it seems
like you know, because a lot Isee a lot of people trying to
have rigs that do both.
Jeff (16:50):
You know it's hard to do both good, but this one would
give you the option to switchover and put a flight controller
on there.
Jason (16:58):
Well, this solves a problem that most of us like.
Just exactly what you said,jeff.
I'm into flight sims, but Ihave so much racing hardware
it's hard for me to move stuffaround.
So if I can have one piece,that's only half.
All I need is a throttlequadrant, that's it.
And then when?
Jeff (17:20):
I want to go flying.
It's not cheap, though, huhDamn 549.
Jason (17:25):
I would like to try it.
I would like to try it.
Jeff (17:28):
You said it had some type of direct was it direct dive?
I forget what it had for the 12newton meters, so it's got like
think of it as a base.
Jason (17:35):
Look at that.
Read that, Jeff it's.
It says that it simulatesturbulence in the stick.
Jeff (17:41):
That's cool.
I mean, I don't know the firstthing about uh, uh, uh, but that
seems cool yeah, it really doesand it says it's using dual
servo motors and they'redelivering the peak torque a 12
newton meters.
So I don't know probably notsome type of direct drive.
Erick (17:59):
Then I'm not a direct drive yeah, and I think direct
drive uh well, I don't know yeah, direct drive is technically a
servo.
Jason (18:08):
Yeah, it might just be kind of, but why is he using two
of them Interesting?
Jeff (18:15):
Maybe to create that One's good, two's better.
Jason (18:17):
Right, Maybe to create that cross friction right, Left
and right and up and down.
That's probably why they'reusing two of them.
See, with steering on our rigsit's only left and right and up
and down.
That's probably why they'reusing two of them.
See, with steering on our rigsis only left and right.
So that probably, but they looktiny oh maybe so.
Maybe it's 12, 12, 12,.
(18:39):
Sorry for interrupting.
Maybe it's 12 Newton's peak,but that means six a piece.
Jeff (18:46):
Oh, maybe like left and right, forward and backwards.
Erick (18:49):
Yeah, more than likely, because just look at the way
they're saying it like equippedwith dual servo motors and if
it's like that, six newtons isnot I?
Jeff (18:59):
I mean, I'm going to say something that might, you know,
trigger some people, but Iwonder where moza is in the
flight sim hierarchy ofequipment.
You know?
I think it's probably you knowsomewhere, but it started yeah,
you know, but in the sim worldthey're probably slight arcing
upwards.
Erick (19:18):
I wonder where they fit in the pecking order for flight
sim equipment uh, I don't do anyflight sim, yeah, but I mean
I'd say it's probably budget.
Jeff (19:28):
You think so, for 500-something bucks is budget
now.
What's a budget base now go forin sim racing.
Jason (19:37):
I disagree, eric, because you got Thrustmaster I think
those are the budget ones andyou got Logitech making flight
sticks that are like 100 bucksyeah.
Erick (19:46):
I guess that's true.
Jason (19:47):
But the thing is that the price is $549, right.
Erick (19:51):
But it's not just a flight stick.
Jason (19:54):
It's a dual triple, it's three things in one.
But if I was a flight sim onlyguy, I wouldn't be looking at
this.
I would be looking at somethingespecially for that price.
I would be looking at somethinga little different, right,
something like a Verpool, or Iforget the other ones, but
Verpool is the one that thatresonates with me.
(20:16):
I like.
I like their brand.
Erick (20:18):
Yeah, something more purpose built.
And it makes sense that I thinkthe person using the single rig
and trying to do dual you know,do racing and flights in this
will probably have like immensevalue because of the space
savings.
Oh true.
Jason (20:34):
And you see the top of that right.
It looks like some sort ofquick disconnect where you can
push down and spin it to lock itTwist to lock.
That's what it looks like.
It looks clean, it looks like amodern design.
You know it's just six newtonson a shifter is not that much
(20:55):
torque, you know, because yougot to think, guys, you think if
it's a short shifter, thenleverage right.
The less leverage, the lessforce.
But if you have a somewhatmedium-sized shifter, six
newtons is nothing you can.
Jeff (21:15):
That looks cool.
Jason (21:17):
Yeah, I don't know what aircraft that's for, but that
looks cool.
That's a fighter jets.
Jeff (21:24):
Yeah, it's some type of.
Erick (21:26):
I was hoping they'd show the connector on the bottom a
little bit or give us a littlebit of angle on it Of how it
connects.
Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, but itlooks like it's some sort of
quick release, like you weresaying, jason, but it looks like
it might be like a littlecollar that goes up and snaps
down, maybe based on this, ormaybe it twists down.
Jason (21:47):
Or maybe it goes up and then it stays up and then, when
it comes down, it locks it downlike yeah yeah, I can see that,
but yeah, so this is the, thebase.
Erick (21:58):
Like I said, this is the uh, probably the second most
interesting thing from.
You know my standpoint, um, andlet's see well, I think it's
pretty cool.
Jason (22:11):
I think I think it's not for everybody, is what I'm going
to say.
I think that's geared towards aparticular user and here we go.
Jeff (22:23):
What do you?
Erick (22:24):
got here, buddy, this looks super cool, yeah, so this
is definitely the piece thatstole the show.
So Jason was.
I was messaging him when I wastrying to just get to this page,
not even purchase it, but theirsite was crashing Just trying
to pull this page up thismorning after they sent out the
(22:47):
email saying that this was, thiswas live.
So they were having some, a lotof, I some, a lot of, I assume,
a lot of demand, a lot ofpeople that were just interested
.
But this is their moza mbooster active pedal.
So first things first mostimportant piece is the price
$7.99 to $9.99, right.
So if you want just this pedal,it is $799.
(23:11):
And as far as active pedaloptions go, that's less than
half of what you'd pay for thecurrent options, which are the
Simicube.
Pro and the Simicube Ultimate.
So I think, as far as it beingbudget, if you're looking for
(23:33):
active pedal, that's definitelythat's the only game in town in
the budget world, uh, but 700bucks for your one pedal is you
know?
Jeff (23:41):
800 seven yeah, it's not, yeah, it's not yeah, budget
period for any socialimagination, but, but it's and
I'll say this cheaper than thesemi-cube 100.
Erick (23:51):
Yeah I'll say less expensive, I'm not gonna say
cheap yeah yeah, well it's.
Jason (23:58):
I think it's two products that you really can't compare
right.
In my opinion.
Um, if something costs half theprice, there's definitely.
Uh, there's definitely.
What do you call thisShortcomings?
That were measures that weretaken to get it at that price
point.
Jeff (24:18):
Yeah, Simucube isn't pocketing a G per pedal.
They're making or they'reselling right.
Jason (24:24):
No, and I mean I wouldn't recommend any active pedal to a
new sim racer anyway.
That's my opinion, that's mytwo cents.
Right Like, if you're going tostart out with sim racing and
you're building a budget set,there's way not better pedals,
(24:47):
but there's other options foryou to start.
However, if you are in the Mozaecosystem, what remains to be
seen is that if this pedal workson console, then that would
make it the only active pedal towork out the box on a console,
which we don't know.
We don't know yet becausethey're so they're.
(25:10):
They literally just came outlike days ago, like maybe two or
three days ago yeah I don'tthink anybody has their hands on
them other than reviewers.
Uh, like mike from the simracing den has it, I think,
boosted media and um race beyondmatter, which is another,
another great creator that hasit.
Jeff (25:29):
Yeah, I don't think they've reached the wild.
You know came into the wild.
Jason (25:31):
Yet to your point, so if Moza, yeah, if this pedal works
on the console, then this ishands down.
It's going to have to be thebest option you can get on a
console, because it's the onlyactive, it's the only thing that
exists.
Wait, right there, right there,with support for inverted
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mounting and full compatibilitywith pc and xbox system okay.
Erick (25:57):
Yeah, that's what I was looking for, because I know they
have an xbox bundle, but I wastrying to see which pedals
worked, and the crp2 pedals.
Jason (26:05):
I'll go back to the so are they saying the crp works,
or they're saying the boosterworks?
Erick (26:12):
So the booster, if you're going to use it with a pedal
set, you'd have to use it with.
It says compatible with CRP2pedals for enhanced performance
and seamless integration.
So they have the option for youto buy it with the CRP2
throttle.
So they have the option for youto buy it with the CRP2
throttle and I would assume thatthis would just show up as a
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brick.
But the question obviously withconsole is once you disconnect
this from the PC, or do you needto have this plugged into the
PC, to a PC and the console forthe options to to stick?
Jason (26:50):
so how that works would be interesting and correct the
trouble and if the sim actuallysupports an active pedal,
because there's sims out therethat don't, that don't.
Yes, yeah, there's sims outthere.
Simi cube is.
Simi cube was the only activepedal until up until now that's
on the market and for LMU theyhad to be a patch and an update
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to get it to work, to get thethe pedal works, but the
telemetry with the ABS, theG-Force and everything and all
the other stuff that it does.
Erick (27:26):
So that's kind of cool, though I mean, I don't know, I
don't know I was looking at the$1,000 price and, to be honest,
that's a better deal because youget the pedal, which is $800 by
itself, but then you get theCRP2 throttle pedal, the CRP2
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plate and the extended plate forfor essentially 200 bucks more,
yeah, but essentially nobody's.
Jeff (27:57):
I don't think there's going to be anybody that orders
it with the stuff, because theperson that's getting into sim
racing isn't buying an activepedal to jason's point.
Right, these are people thathave something and want to take
the next step with an activepedal.
I think they're just by thesingle pedal and integrate it to
whatever setup they have.
Jason (28:26):
I agree with Jeff 100%.
However, someone that has a rigwhich is not many of us someone
that has a rig that uses aconsole to project to, not to
project to play the sim, this isan option for them, but it's
only on Xbox, it's not onPlayStation.
So, hands down, the best sim onconsole is GT7, I must say.
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I mean ACC is on there, butagain, acc is severely limited
on there.
There's no third party serversupport.
If they were, then I would havea very, very different opinion
on it.
Erick (29:07):
But as far as online.
Jason (29:08):
You know racing, racing, you know gt7 has the grids.
Erick (29:12):
You know, it's just the way it is yeah, and I'll say
this too acc on ps5 at leastdoes not, um, does not, send out
telemetry.
So okay, even if you have a pcwith simHub, it won't send
anything out.
Yeah.
So, DT7 wins there as well.
Jeff (29:33):
I say this guys.
Yeah, go ahead, jeff, I wasgoing to say let's talk about
the price for a second.
I think Moza picked the perfectprice.
I don't know what their profitmargin is, but I think that they
killed it with the pricebecause there's still a huge gap
to the semi-cube pedal, right?
(29:55):
I mean, what are we looking athere?
Almost a thousand dollardifference.
Um, now the the question herein everybody's mind that's
watched this come out was isthere a thousand dollar
difference in performance?
And my opinion, we'll know whenthe masses get this thing, uh,
and what they have to think.
I I if, if you're sentsomething, it's hard for me to
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take it that it's.
There's only a handful ofpeople out there in the world
that I trust their opinion,regardless of what they say when
they get it shipped to them forfree.
We'll see what it comes out.
You know, when somebody thatpaid their thousand dollars to
get it, what they think of it isthat if it's going to make up
that thousand dollar pricedifference for performance, does
that?
Erick (30:35):
does that make sense?
What I'm trying to say?
yeah yeah, I think that'll bejust to.
I mean so to be honest, ifyou're the only show in town,
the price is whatever you makeup.
Yeah, just being honest.
So as far as semi-cube havingactive pedal, they literally had
a technology nobody else had.
There was no competition as acompany, who it started to make
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money like.
That's why you start a company.
They priced this at a at apoint where they created a.
It sounds like a luxury tax,almost like saying that you know
they're.
Jeff (31:12):
There's no way it could be as nice as this.
Jason (31:16):
There's no way it can be I mean yeah, okay is there a
thousand dollar price.
Jeff (31:20):
Is there a thousand dollar delta between the two everybody
?
Jason (31:24):
that'll be hard to is the thousand dollar question
everybody knows that I'm a SammyCube fan, and it's because I'm
a fan of the reliability oftheir products.
Well it's good top quality shit.
Buddy Construction right, yeah,but to be honest, here on the
show on the Chicane podcast,it's something that we'll never
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know until we try both of them.
That is the correct answer andthat is the answer.
That is a question that youneed to tell yourself, right?
If you're shopping for a pedal,if you want the next step, if
you're a beginner, don't look atthese, I promise you.
Jeff (32:07):
You won't appreciate it for one.
Jason (32:09):
Right.
Erick (32:11):
It'll be hard to justify it.
Jason (32:13):
There's other better, not better but there's great
alternatives at a fraction ofthe cost to get you into the
hobby.
Now, if you already have a rig,you have a setup, you have
everything and you'reconsidering this.
You got to ask yourself thequestion.
First of all, it's hard this isreally difficult for me to put
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out.
It's a quality thing, but it'sa quality thing that you can't
test out unless you go to a simracing expo or unless you have a
friend that has the products.
It's not something that you canbuy in straight up return.
It's really hard to do that.
Um, so yeah, I would.
(32:56):
I would just say this, I wouldjust this I'm gonna piggyback
off jeff.
Um, let's get the masses outthere, let's get the data, and
there's really no other wayother than to just take the
plunge I mean, I watched, youknow, every review I could kind
of watch and that we had.
Jeff (33:14):
Somebody had something about there and I did like the.
The comments were hey, it seemsto be a little bit more grainy
with the push, um, with you knowthe stroke, if you will the
pedal, then this I don't know ifthey had the semi-cube, but
that was their feedback um, ifyou're thinking you're getting
the semi-cube for you knowlegitimately half the price and
(33:35):
I think you probably shouldcheck your expectations, um, but
you're also saving a thousanddollars.
Jason (33:41):
So let's be honest here, right, I mean that's a that's a
great argument that we can haveall day.
Because I will counter withthis If you purchase the
Simicube, 99% of the time it's abetter-pilled product.
You don't have to worry aboutit.
This is a brand-new productthat we don't know if it's going
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to, later down the road, breakdown or if you're going to have
an issue with it or whatever itis.
And that a thousand dollarsthat you saved, you suddenly
didn't save anything.
You know what I mean, and I'vehad other branded hardware on my
rig and, trust me, I thought Iwas saving money and that I was
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mistaken.
So I mean and that's again,that's a back.
That again, that's a gooddebate.
It's a healthy debate becausewe're trying to give you
perspective.
Jeff (34:35):
And this is awesome, right ?
This competition thing is goodfor everybody.
A people get cheaper stuff,like I had a high school coach
said like competition, whatmakes America great?
You know, when it comes toquality and price.
Jason (34:49):
Look at Semi-Cube like a Porsche, right, let's say a
Porsche comes out and it's a 911, what is it?
Gtrs?
Right, gt3rs?
That's almost a $400,000 car.
But then you have I don't know,I'm going to piss people off,
I'm going to say it here on theshow.
(35:10):
Then you got a Tesla Model Sthat completely smokes the
Porsche like tenfold and fightme on that, let's go.
Comments, I'm ready.
And it's like a fraction of thecost.
Is Porsche going to lower theprice?
They're like no, we're Porsche,we're not going to lower our
price just because there's acompetitor out there.
There is a user base andthere's a following.
(35:33):
Yeah, there's a, there's afollowing of that brand and
they're like well, I mean, yeah,that's great, that's, that's,
that's your $800 pedal.
I have my pedal over here.
Which one would you like?
You know what I mean.
Like comparing, yeah.
Erick (35:50):
Yeah, that's a great.
That's a perfect comparison too, because in that comparison the
tesla only beats the porsche inone category which is exactly
drag racing that's it.
Jason (36:00):
You put them both straight line speed and the
tesla dies and the porsche runsoff with it.
Erick (36:05):
So literally and figuratively yeah, so I think,
comparing the semi-cube to thebut they're both cars.
Jason (36:12):
You know what I'm trying to say.
Erick (36:13):
They're both pedals, they're both cars, you know yep,
and in this comparison with thepedals, the one of the kind of
fundamental benefits is you putthis pedal on your rig and you
never have to get down there toadjust it again.
You do all that software sothat they both provide that
benefit exactly.
Ie, they're both cars.
But if you are competing, ifyou are somebody who is like
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very into precision and you'relike you're running your rig
heavy, you might need thequality, reliability of the
semi-q, whereas if you're moreof a casual person who you know
exactly good moza durabilitymight work for you this is the
real talk about this type ofstuff.
Jason (36:56):
Guys, I want you to listen to this, because this is
the real talk, seriously, I Imean you can.
You can be either or you can bea casual or competitor, but you
can also be someone that'schasing immersion or someone
that's chasing a you know, pedalvr yeah, I've dreamed about
(37:18):
having having one of thesepedals, like I've got shakers on
mine.
Erick (37:23):
This would be crazy they have a stock yeah, sorry look at
that.
Jeff (37:28):
You can't even buy it right now.
Jason (37:29):
That's the ultimate, though.
Jeff (37:31):
Yeah, that's the ultimate.
Jason (37:34):
So the ultimate is the one that's kind of like oof.
I mean, that's why theyreleased the Pro, right?
The Pro is kind of like they'retrying to be more competitive
in the market without losing toomuch.
Because that pedal is overkill,the strength of it is overkill.
Erick (37:53):
This is what you need, right here.
Jason (37:56):
Scroll up to see the back there you go.
So you know, I think from anundisclosed source.
I've heard some things aboutthe new Moza pedal and again,
it's very early stages.
These guys got test review.
What do you call this Versionone?
(38:19):
What do you call that Betaversions?
Or the software is brand new.
You can't expect things to beabsolutely perfect.
That's asking for much.
Even if it was a semi-cubeproduct, I would say the same
thing Give it time to cook, letpeople use them for a few weeks
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after the fact.
Erick (38:43):
I don't care if you've been using it for three months.
Jason (38:44):
And then you're like, yeah, I've been using the pedal
for three months and it'sawesome for three months.
And then you're like, yeah,I've been using the pedal for
three months and it's awesome.
No, I want to know where thepedal stands in the community
and how is it growing with itlater.
Are things breaking, glitches,what have you so enough?
I know I'm rambling, sorryabout that, but it's a great
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discussion.
It's a great discussion becauseI'm not telling you to buy a
semi-cube and that's it.
I'm sharing my experience andmy experiences.
Semi-cube hardware has been thebest that I've used and it
always impresses me and it'sstill my favorite part of the
rig.
But that's me, that's Jason.
(39:27):
You know so, but that's me.
That's Jason.
That's the new Moza pedal.
It should be available.
You can order it right now andthe shifter More to follow.
Jeff (39:43):
Grab it and let us know how it is.
That too, yeah, do that.
Jason (39:48):
Or maybe we can have mike and we can have a discussion
with him.
Who knows mike?
You're watching this and he canlet me know.
Jeff (39:53):
Let me know or somebody buy it and make a review so we
can watch it moza, you cansponsor us.
I will test this pedal for youI got a place right there for it
, right in there look I willhurt my back.
I was about to say I I couldhave sworn.
I just heard my knees chirpingto say, hey, we want that, we
want it, we don't want to haveto get down in there again.
Jason (40:14):
Oh yeah, so that alone is kind of a worthy feature.
But yeah, so what's next, eric,what we got next today?
Erick (40:25):
For me.
I didn't know if I know Jeffwas talking about something on
iRacing.
I didn't know if you wanted totouch on that oh okay, so, jeff,
what do you got?
Jeff (40:37):
for us this week.
Yeah, just you know.
I think most people havenoticed the.
It's just the update to the toiRacing as the new season gets
started.
I think by that when this dropswe'll have the new season
started.
Um, not going to dig super intoit because it's most kind of
play, catch up and clean upbusiness here.
I think everybody's the biggestpoint is the graphics and the
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sun and just it pops is thatprobably the best massive?
changes.
We kind of skip over the NASCAR.
I think we kind of spoke onthis the last update that spoke
to iRacing is really dumping alot of effort into updating
NASCAR and I think to that pointI don't think they had went a
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while without updating the cars,the inside, the tracks et
cetera.
So they're dumping a lot intothat.
But boy, it just looks nicegoing around the track.
And Jason, you brought up agood point the other day in that
text.
You were like, hey, delete anduninstall the.
Um, what's that software?
Reshade, reshade.
Jason (41:37):
Yeah, you don't need anymore so, yeah, if you guys go
back into a previous I don'tthink we mentioned it on the
show or maybe we have briefly,but uh, dan suzuki, which I'm a
big fan of, dan, if you'rewatching, I love what you do.
Man, keep doing what you'redoing.
He created a video that werethe best settings for iRacing.
Now the video is still he's notjoking, yeah, it's really good.
(42:01):
But at the time we didn't havethis new lighting model.
So he told you hey, you caninstall this program, it's free,
it's called Reshade and you canmess with the lighting or
simulate a fake HDR or sharpenthe image.
But again, it's a little bit ofpower that you would need to
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run that in the background.
Jeff (42:29):
Just a little bit.
Performance takes a little bitof hit.
Jason (42:31):
Just a slight hit, but then every time that iRacing has
made now two times I thinkthey've made changes to their uh
, lighting gamut and you know,the lighting itself basically in
reflections, um, there's nomore need for reshape there,
really isn't?
I uninstalled it and you know,you get that little bit of
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performance back and it pops.
Man, I mean it's really nice.
It's really nice.
Um, so something to consider ifyou were using reshade and I
don't know, I think it's great,I think that's how it should be
right yeah, I mean it.
Jeff (43:07):
Just it was like I don't say night and day.
When you jumped in and got youafter you did the update, which
my update was like 30 gigs thisweek, this, this season, I was
like holy cow.
I didn't even take the content,I was like, just give me what I
need to get back into it.
Yes, so it looks.
It looks no, beautiful,beautiful um that's really, you
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know, big nascar update, big um.
Jason (43:34):
You know, uh, I won't say graphics, but uh and all the
tracks they updated like seventracks of nascar a lot of nascar
update yeah the, the new, thenew, um, kind of what they were
doing with spa and remaking orre, uh, redoing the tracks,
remapping, yeah, with theirdrone footage and all kinds of
stuff.
They're doing that, they'regiving that to nascar which
(43:56):
reminds me yeah, go ahead, goahead.
Jeff (43:58):
I was gonna say it would be super cool if I racing
released a video like behind thescenes over, like them, from
them flying the drone to how itgets.
Jason (44:06):
To software release like just show it's coming, it's
gotta it's gotta be, it's gottabe what it's gotta be in the
makes.
Like them in the back and yousee the computer and they're
dialing in.
Jeff (44:20):
Yeah, that would be.
You know, because, like we'retech people, you know we get a
kick out of that stuff, how thatstuff works and is built Unless
it's like the secret sauce typeof stuff you know where they're
like.
We don't need the other.
You know our competitors.
If you were learning how thatwe're doing this, I don't know.
Jason (44:42):
You the other.
You know our competitors.
If you were learning how thatwe're doing this, I don't know.
You know I could understand ifthey didn't.
I will say this something aboutnascar is I'm not really a fan
of watching nascar because Imean, in my opinion it's just
left turn racing.
Sorry, again, jason is on firetoday go ahead and crucify me,
but that right tire is brand new.
I would take that right tire.
They don't need it.
I'll put it in my car um, butracing racing in an oval race is
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intense as hell bro dude it'shard, it's hard and it's intense
.
So i'm'm actually excitedbecause DNR just built a
dashboard that's specificallymade for Oval Racing and he's
the only one that has one outthere right now.
So I mean, you pair that withthe new update to iRacing and
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the tracks and the three newNASCAR cars that are releasing.
Erick (45:36):
Yeah, I was going to bring that up.
Jason (45:39):
It's time to get our Oval license.
That's what it's time.
Jeff (45:42):
It's about that time I gotta quit messing around and
just knock.
I think I have like one moreone more race to do or uh um, in
the rookies I keep going tounranked races because they're
fun the driving them is verydifferent very different it's.
It's totally different than,like a formula car, uh yeah but
(46:03):
man uh does race.
Racecraft exist in oval racingdude, you get in these nascar
and you're going down thestraightaway and you'll be on
the wall, we'll say, and thenyou don't move the wheel and
somehow you're in on inside.
You're like I don't know how Imoved, but I moved yeah, yeah,
(46:23):
that's, that's that's steepnesson.
Jason (46:25):
Them turns sometimes, man yeah, it's just participation
on.
Jeff (46:29):
I'm racing too and you know like, oh yeah, but boy, if
you do an unranked race inNASCAR, watch out.
Yeah, because your whole raceis bumper to bumper and one
knucklehead sneezes and it'sover for everybody.
Jason (46:44):
That's one of the hardest ones to get out of.
Rookies is because of that themassive wrecks.
It's hard to drive a clean racethere.
But that's part of the culture,right?
Um, but that's part of theculture, right?
The crashing in nascar, uh, thebumper to bumper to bump,
drafting the to just hit them inthe back and go faster because
I'm going faster.
You only need one gear innascar, bro, it's fifth or
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fourth downshift no it's onlyfour it's only s4.
Okay, it's four.
Erick (47:14):
It's four speed yeah, so once you get to four, forget
about it.
Jeff (47:18):
You can just unplug the usb.
Jason (47:19):
You don't even need it but again, it's not that simple,
I'm telling you.
I tried it and it was afreaking blast.
I I was shaking, I was likedude, this is crazy, like I got
people.
Oh man, it was fun, it was fun,it was fun, it was fun.
Jeff (47:37):
I think I told you guys this but to get out of Rookies
you need to race tracks that arelike 0.3 miles, like 0.2 miles.
I'm talking like 20-second laptimes.
Jason (47:50):
Yeah, I had to turn off, I was getting dizzy.
Jeff (47:53):
It's just like constant turn.
Jason (47:59):
As soon as you get the car straightened out, it's a
turn again.
You know what might be fun,dude, is NASCAR Gen 3, like the
faster ones the fastest ones, Iguess but actually doing like an
endurance race, we have to pitand to see what that car feels
like with those tires gone.
There's got to be somethingcrazy.
I'm going to have to look intothis.
(48:23):
I don't know if I shared thiswith everybody maybe I did, but
my, my old.
Jeff (48:25):
There you go, you got the tool, you got this here, man, so
I broke her in.
Jason (48:27):
She's been, she's been used a little bit so you got the
tool man, so oh yeah, I guesswe got time for one more topic.
I got a quick one.
Yeah, you do.
I got one more.
Jeff (48:43):
More of a discussion here.
Pete Jason tagged me somethingon Facebook today.
I'm sorry, eric did.
I was like Eric.
You can't tell people I've beenVR racing.
I can't be telling people I'vebeen driving VR.
Jason (48:56):
Because you got triples in the vr.
Jeff (48:58):
I was like yeah, like people anyway.
So, all right, I have beendriving the last week in vr um.
First data point I'm notgetting motion sick anymore,
like when I was doing it.
Jason, you saw where the rigwas upstairs and I was getting
motion sick.
I couldn't do a lap when Imoved it down here.
And I think there's two thingswhy I'm not getting motion sick
and I bring this up do a lapwhen I moved it down here.
And I think there's two thingswhy I'm not getting motion sick
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and I'm bringing this up.
So a lot of people don't getinto it because of the motion
sick that they get.
So I'm hoping that what I thinkhelped me can help some other
people is the first and foremostis my wheel is exactly where
the wheel is in my headset.
So it feels like my hands areactually on the wheel.
It's not.
They're not off one way or theother.
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So that is the first one.
The second one, I think, is thebutt kicker.
I think that helps.
You feel like you're in the car.
So you start the car up and youcan feel it start to vibrate,
accelerate, go over the curb andyou feel like you're.
You know, like you're gettinganother sense of feedback to the
right, to you that you'reactually there, opposed to
(50:02):
tricking your mind that you'rethere.
And that's where I feel likeI'm getting like the motion sick
.
I didn't get sick at all, um,and I did.
I was doing like two or threeraces, um, just long stints of
practice.
I could drive around and lookaround and I was fine.
So I don't know what it was,but boy am I glad I jumped into
(50:22):
it Because really, what got itis the split reality or the
mixed reality that I really wantto do that.
We talked about a coupleepisodes ago, oh yeah.
Where you can use your wheelBlended reality and then see the
car, and I think that is asgood as it gets.
I just spent all this money onthis wheel.
I want to see the damn wheel.
I want to see my DNR.
Jason (50:47):
That is the future, bro.
That is the future right there.
Jeff (50:51):
So I've slowly started to tinker with it.
That dude says he's going torelease a how-to video any day
now.
Jason (51:04):
Like bro, quit beating around the freaking bush.
Just, I think somebody, I thinkI think somebody left a comment
on what they think he did.
I mean, I haven't tried itmyself, um, I just, I just been
busy printing man, printingstuff.
I need to get to that.
Jeff (51:16):
I need to get to that, but um, yeah, nascar is definitely
yeah, go ahead, jeff no, I wasgonna say so those are two.
You know, if you're one ofthose, I'd give the try to try
to make it what your way yourhands and wheel are.
Try to match that as best youcan.
Um, and I think the buck kickermight have helped too.
Um, but I don't know why I justall of a sudden light switch.
Jason (51:35):
Don't get sick anymore maybe you just got used to it,
maybe maybe, I don't know.
Maybe the more you use it, themore you kind of adjust to
wearing a headset I I'm guessingmaybe it is wicked.
Jeff (51:50):
Cool.
Jason (51:50):
Yeah, it is, yeah, and I racing too, is pretty light on
on VR and it looks pretty good.
Jeff (52:01):
That's all I've done, I think, but it is spectacular,
that's okay, there's nothingwrong with people that race in
VR.
Jason (52:09):
I'm saying it here on the show.
Yeah, it is.
Jeff (52:11):
You choose your weapon, I might go back to my triple and I
do some time to time, go backand forth this past week, but
it's just cool that, like, youcan look behind you, you can.
You know, um, and then, whereyou move your head, your mirrors
move.
You know, if you want to look alittle bit more to the right,
you can move your head a littlebit in the mirror.
You know, like it wouldn't reallife, um, it's just wicked in.
(52:35):
You know the formula classwhere you're, like, you know,
right on somebody and, um, I dofeel like I can put my nose, I
feel like I sense my nose alittle closer to where that car
is in front, especially likefirst corner turns, where you
want to stay as tight as you can.
Um, but boy, my brother, mybrother came over here and I put
(52:56):
him in a NASCAR thing, causehe's just that's, all he likes
is NASCAR.
He went, he was like this ispretty sweet and then like lost
it and went right into the andhe was like whoa and he like put
his hands up, but definitely, Ithink the fan would help a lot,
because you do get hot with thething on your face.
No, you just want that Winsome,just buy it bro, I do, I should
(53:17):
just get the damn stuff.
There you go, man Just get thedamn Winsome Get it, Eric.
You find yourself Wait a minuteStop, emergency Stop.
Jason (53:24):
You have a 3D printer now , jeff, you can 3D print the
mounts.
Jeff (53:38):
You can go over to home depot and get the ducks some pc
fans.
Jason (53:39):
So here's the problem, because I've thought about this
already all you need is theboard, the controller, that's.
Jeff (53:42):
I know, oh, like that's the cheap stuff, the, the, the
printing, the printing stuff,the cheap stuff like you're
really paying for.
You know the board and you knowusb interface, etc you can.
Jason (53:52):
You can print your own.
You can order a board andsolder it.
Jeff (53:55):
You can right, but then do I really want to hook that up
to my PC?
Jason (54:00):
and fry everything.
But now I'm getting intosoldering too, because it's
eventual.
It's related to 3D printing,because if you 3D print, you
realize that you can make thingsthat you couldn't make before.
You can make things that youcouldn't make before, and now
the missing piece is being ableto create electronics and build
(54:22):
housings for them.
So I'm trying to learn.
But before anything getsplugged into that baby back
there, I better be sure of whatI'm doing.
You know what I mean.
Jeff (54:33):
You can buy a little baby laptop.
Jason (54:34):
You can also get a voltmeter and check to see if
there's any like what do youcall this?
Shorts or whatever?
Jeff (54:41):
Yeah, it just is.
Jason (54:43):
I know it's risky, I hear you.
I hear you.
There's options out there whichI'm going to.
You know what For the nextepisode.
I'm going to see what optionsare there.
We're going to go, we're goingto dive deep on Winsims, next
one.
Jeff (54:58):
Eric, you to go.
We're going to dive deep on onon winsims.
Next one, erica, you, youreally got me into vr driving.
You sent that video a whileback.
It was formula racing againstthe like, the uh ferrari.
You still, you still do any vrdriving at all uh, I do um to
your point about being hot.
Erick (55:10):
That is something I mean I want to address because they
have different inserts for theheadset.
I think it's like the GlobulaCluster or something like that.
It's like a memory foam withcooling pads and all that stuff
and distributes the weightbetter and all of that.
Jason (55:29):
That sounds crazy, the cluster on your face.
Erick (55:34):
Yeah, it's a wild name, but apparently they're like the,
the gold standard for justcomfort and consistency too.
Um, because the psvr2 headsetthe type of lenses it has it has
a very small sweet spot.
So being able to get theheadset to that spot and then
get it there consistently, haveit stay while you're racing is
(55:57):
could be problematic.
But, um, back to your question.
I do VR race and GT seven, butI've actually been doing more um
without the headset here morerecently.
Um, and it's nice to have, likemy lovely dashboard and you
know, see my button box and youknow with the, to see my you
know button box and you knowwith the screen and just get
(56:19):
like we were talking aboutbefore being able to enjoy some
of the other stuff see my wheeland-.
Jason (56:23):
Being free, too, from something on your face.
Erick (56:26):
Yeah, being free Cause I've you know, I 3D printed a
MagSafe mount for my phone.
It's on my rig, so I have myphone mounted on there and be
able to change music or whatever.
Jason (56:40):
I'm telling you, bro, I'm 3D printing stuff, so I have
the bamboo studio on the topmonitor and I'm racing on.
Yeah, bro.
Erick (56:48):
I found uses for it.
Hey, y'all have got to go, lookat that.
Look, you hear Jason talkingabout a sweatshop.
You got to watch his Instagramreel.
Jason (56:58):
My sweatshop yeah.
Erick (57:00):
Make sure you go, look at the reel and it will tell you
everything you need to knowabout what Jason has going on
over there.
Man, it's a setup.
Jason (57:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a Next level.
Erick (57:11):
Yeah, one guy made a comment on it.
He's like man, this is a wetdream, it's a wet dream.
Jason (57:16):
Yeah, comment on it.
He's like man, this is a wetdream.
And I got that Hans Zimmer,what you call it, from the
interstellar playing in thebackground because I can't
believe what's happening.
I just can't believe it.
Something out of this world,Meet the Jetsons.
Anyways, guys, great contenttoday, a lot of good discussions
(57:36):
here.
It's good to have the differentopinions on things, man,
because that's what makes ushuman right Is everyone has an
opinion, but gathering data andputting it all together is how
we get you to a decision.
So before we close the show andyou go out and watch reviews on
(57:57):
those pedals, just know thatreviewers are geared to either
left or they're geared to eitherright, with a grain of salt,
because when you install thepedals, you're not going to know
(58:17):
up until the day that you putthe foot on the pedal and it's
going to tell you this was worthit or it was not worth it.
So that's the realist answer.
I mean I can't tell you.
I can't tell you one way or theother.
You know what I mean.
So I really appreciate you guys.
Thank you, eric, for drivingmost of the episode today and,
(58:38):
jeff, welcome to the 3D PrintingGang.
You're my late bloomer.
Jeff (58:43):
But we got you there.
Better late than never.
Jason (58:45):
But, we got you there, brother, we got you there.
And you're loving it, which isthat makes me feel good,
because-.
Jeff (58:51):
Wife loves it Little dude sits in front of the screen
watching it print.
Jason (58:57):
I told you, you, bro, quality time didn't I tell you I
told you quality time with thefamily y'all haven't started
designing stuff yet look at that
Jeff (59:03):
no, I know so that's right .
Yeah, I'm looking forward tothat too, yeah hopefully we'll
have.
Jason (59:09):
If we have some more info for you guys on any of the
stuff that we mentioned here onthe show today, we will
definitely come back with afollow-up and update you guys.
Um, but right now we're justlike you.
We're.
We're seeing a product come out, is q2 and it's available for
purchase.
That's all we know.
Reviewers have had this pedalfor months, but we don't, as a
(59:31):
user sim racer.
We don't have, I don't have anydata for you yet.
I don't think any of us youknow do so until we can go to a
store and try them out, which isI don't know if that's going to
happen.
Erick (59:45):
That might happen for me.
Jason (59:47):
It might happen.
Yeah, micro center no.
Erick (59:51):
So that gigapart store that's over here they have two
full mosa setups, they have aflight sim and they have a
racing sim interesting for youto try.
Okay, I've been going by therelike looking at the shelf,
looking around like y'all gotone of them active pedals y'all
got it so and then he bust out aDSLR camera like oh you don't
(01:00:17):
say Like a sword.
I'm telling you oh yeah, I'mgoing live immediately.
Jason (01:00:23):
Immediately.
Erick (01:00:24):
All right guys.
Jason (01:00:25):
Well, thank you so much again.
And yeah, if you have anyquestions or comments or
concerns, please email us atthechicanepodcasts at gmailcom.
And with that I'm going to givethis over to Jeff, because he
keeps forgetting to say it Drivefast people and break late.
Even though we kind of skippedthe round table and Track of the
(01:00:48):
Week, stay tuned for that.
We just had a lot of news today.
We wanted to put that out foryou.
So Track of the Week willreturn on the next iteration of
the Chicane Podcast and withthat, have a great start of your
week, Thank you.
The Hello and welcome to the Chicane Podcast, where we
discuss all things in the simracing world.
I'm your host, Jason Rivera,and I'm joined here by Mr Eric
(00:41):
Kelly and Jeff Smart.
How's everybody doing today?
Jeff (00:45):
Doing good, doing good, dude, we got some stuff to talk
about.
There's been a lot of news inthe sim racing world in the past
week.
We got a lot of stuff today.
I'm telling you.
Jason (00:55):
Q2 came, it's here and they're lighting a fire on the
market which, eric, has all thegoodies for us today.
Welcome back everybody.
Everybody's in good shape.
It seems like we're runningthrough the year right 2025,
already approaching April.
Jeff (01:16):
I can't believe it.
Week one of F1's under our belt.
Erick (01:18):
A little bit wet weekend.
Jeff (01:21):
Oh yeah, oh yeah and when this hits the streets, we'll be
done week two, I guess.
Jason (01:25):
Huh yeah, in china listen and please don't tell the seven
time world champion how todrive a car.
You're pissing the guy off onthe first, on the opening gp hey
, I heard k1's available.
I don't want to use it rightnow he's like, I'll let you know
I'm not close enough, stop itlike, like.
Erick (01:49):
Please don't repeat it.
Jason (01:50):
Please say it one time, that's it all right, so let's
get into some announcements thisweek.
Obviously we have a plethora ofstuff to cover which which I'm
going to let that sink in themain discussion.
But for me, for myself, it'sbeen nothing but a lot of
(02:12):
plastic in the TGSR studio, alot of burning plastic, melting
plastic.
It's 3D printing and again Iapologize if today we go over 3D
printing.
Please mute the video.
Please don't.
Jeff (02:29):
But yeah, we're like three new kids with a new toy.
Jason (02:34):
It's the toy for adults, I'm telling you, and it's the
toy that everybody wants to usein the house, and I'm pretty
sure the gentleman here canattest.
So I mean, I'm running twoprinters now and I did a preview
of uh, of my studio.
If you want to check it out,it's on instagram so you can see
what, what it looks like in inthe background.
(02:57):
Um, what else?
Nothing, nothing, really elsefor me.
I like that.
Um gro uh.
Season 12 for the porschestarted today, at the time of
this recording, which isthursday today, uh, and we had
37 porsches on the track.
So thank you so much for thenew users that signed up.
(03:20):
If you're curious, and if youjust found this video and you're
curious what GRL is, pleaselook in the videos.
We have two videos already thatwe made on the league and it's
been fantastic.
That's it for me.
I'll pass this over to Mr Kelly.
Erick (03:41):
Yeah, as far as announcements go been 3D
printing.
You see, yeah, um, as far asannouncements go been 3d
printing, like you see, I it's.
Like you said, it's the, it'sthe hobby for adults, but it's
also they.
They've made leaps and boundswith the printers, so it's a lot
more hands-off, a lot moreefficient.
(04:01):
It it's just.
I can't.
My mind is still blown at thepossibility of going to sleep
and there being just an emptybed and waking up and I have a
thing on there.
I printed this last night.
Jason (04:18):
It's like bro oh no.
Jeff (04:23):
It's cool man.
Jason (04:24):
That looks solid.
Wait, wait, you got the QR what.
Rob Markman Jr.
Yes, Okay, look how solid.
Look, he's struggling to getthat wheel off.
That tells you right there, rob.
Erick (04:34):
Markman Jr.
So this is specifically for SipMagic.
Jeff (04:38):
Yo, it's even got the logo put on and everything.
Erick (04:41):
Rob Markman Jr.
Yeah, if I had AMS I could havedid multicolor.
Jason (04:44):
And carbon fiber.
Erick (04:46):
Yeah, carbon fiber and even I can't focus here.
Yeah, and so it's set up forthe QR.
There's a little bit of stuffup there from the supports, but
it prints in two pieces and youput them together.
This one I actually reached outto the guy guy designed it
(05:06):
because he made one that wasshorter and I asked him if he
had a taller one with an a1profile and he was like sure,
and dropped this in there andlike I say it's.
it's like when I first picked itup off the printer, like this
is like solid that might havetaken a minute, huh yeah, like
this, took probably about 5hours to print just this stem
(05:29):
piece cause of the wallsprobably yeah, solid this is
pretty much solid filament here.
I took a chunk out of the rollhuh yeah, but you know that's
the price you pay and yeah, lookat that, no worries, just snap
the wheel on no delicacy?
Jason (05:50):
none at all, man but yeah , looks good over there, it's a
conversation piece you need toplug it in to get the wheel to
light up in the background.
Erick (05:59):
I was gonna talk I was gonna talk to you about that
because I need that to happen,because I originally wanted to
put them on the wall, but thenI'm like I got a 3D printer I
can print stands.
He's like I ain't got time forthese Kind of dope man, so yeah.
Jason (06:12):
And then you got the shelves too.
I see you with the shelves,yeah.
Erick (06:15):
Yeah, 3d printed those floating shelves there's three
of them, I don't know, just kindof having that for the PC space
.
Some other stuff I printed inthe past, like a little Porsche
that's nice clean too a deskversion.
Jason (06:31):
They got the big, they got a 60 inch version.
Erick (06:35):
I want to print the wall version.
Jason (06:36):
I don't have the room for it.
Erick (06:38):
I don't have the room because in my mind, like right
above this desk right here, theproblem is if that print, if it
fails, it ain't importantBecause there's so many pieces,
like the amount of filament andtime.
I got anxiety about that.
I'm tempted to, but it's beenprinting more stuff for the rig.
(06:59):
Like this is for the powerswitch.
Jason (07:01):
Dude, this guy.
Erick (07:03):
This is a strain relief for the USB.
The USB and the power Focus up.
Look at that.
It even says it.
It's stuff that you would.
At this point I'm pretty niceto have Just customizing stuff,
(07:25):
cleaning it up, and it's great.
Jason (07:29):
I mean, I've been on the same kind of journey.
I'll show what I printed out astand for that carbon fiber.
You can see my face now.
It's just a stand to hold themup, and that's the texture that
we looked at on the website,just so you guys can see what it
, what it legit looks like.
And they are double-sided soyou can print on both sides.
(07:52):
And here's the other, the othertexture that I have there.
See if the light can kind ofgrab it there.
Yeah, you see it there anyways.
That, anyways, that's part ofthe addiction.
Right, it's the honeymoon phase.
We're going to print all kindsof shit and even things that we
don't need.
We're still going to print themjust to see.
(08:13):
Oh yeah, just to see I got thisstuff that I printed for me.
Erick (08:18):
Like my wife, she's been sending me stuff, she's got a
watch charger oh, she's got alist, bro, for you.
Yeah, tablet stand and all kindof little stuff Same here.
The more she starts going downthat rabbit hole, I'm sure going
to get a lot more stuff.
Jason (08:34):
Oh yeah, Jeff, what do you have to say?
Jeff (08:37):
bro Out with it, my problem is my wife got it and
she saw me printing some stuffout and she's like how you doing
that?
So she went out there and gotthe.
She went out and got the bamboolab app.
So like if, as soon as theprinter goes idle, you got like,
and my, and then my dad, youknow he's on vacation out here
(08:58):
hanging out and he downloadedthe app.
So if that printer is idle atthe moment, it goes idle and
it's cleared off with the nextprint, well, you better send
something to it because somebodyelse is.
So we like we just finished andmy wife got the.
Uh, she just put something forthe, for the crocs, the kids,
you know, the kids got the croc,little things on them, oh she
printed that out.
Uh, nice, yeah, so she, um, butlike about that the first time.
(09:20):
So I got, we went, I got somenew speakers for the surround
sound in the living room and I'mon Amazon looking for mounts
for them so they can mount tothe wall and stuff, and I'm like
wait a second, yeah, let mejump in there.
Not only do they have mounts,but they got mounts for the
speaker making model that I have, yeah, the one-to-one, yeah.
(09:41):
And then, oh, you don't likethat one.
They got ones that like rotateand pivot and all this other
stuff.
So, yeah, it was cool.
I had like two custom ones andthen, you know, just like small
little shelf speakers.
They look awesome, save $60.
Easy.
Jason (09:57):
So… that's the first time that you're saving a large
chunk of cash.
In the long run they'll pay forthemselves, I think, in the
long run.
Jeff (10:08):
And then, when in doubt, I'm just printing off cable
management clips for the rig.
There's more cable managementhere on the rig now than there
ever has been.
Jason (10:16):
These printers got here last week.
They haven't stopped up untilwe had to record this episode.
Yeah, exactly.
They're probably questioning didhe get tired?
But this studio has been justnothing but all night.
(10:40):
Anyway, again, we are notBamboo Lab sponsors.
We all got Bamboo Lab printers.
I would love to be one.
I would wear a shirt.
We're just sharing out thewonderful hobby that we explored
late, because 3D printing hasbeen here for a while.
But it's very differentwatching someone print something
than you having something inyour house, and all three of us
(11:01):
can agree to that, I think.
Erick (11:05):
I mean very different owning.
It's the, it's the future, butit's here like it's I mean it's
yeah, like um.
I think last week neil wassaying it's like the jetsons, or
somebody referred to that.
That's exactly what it feelslike, like cartoons, when they
depict the future and they havea little box and they close the
door and open it up andsomething disappears there.
Jason (11:26):
That's that's like something being beamed down to
you, so yeah, you're 100, right.
Jeff (11:31):
So I forget what I printed and I brought it down.
I showed my dad and my parent,my mom and dad, and it was hard
for them to like, understand.
Like when you say you press thebutton and we birthed it, like,
and it we it appeared like it'shard for them to understand.
You know, like how it works.
You know like, boom, it's apicture on a computer and an
(11:52):
hour later, boom, I have it inmy hand, solid reality.
Jason (11:56):
It's like the jetsons.
Jeff (11:57):
That's the funniest analogy I've heard in a long
time it's the.
Erick (12:00):
It's the closest thing, man.
Yeah, that's the closest thingI can, but god bamboo.
Jeff (12:04):
That's the closest thing I can.
But God bamboo sure makes iteasy and like just easy.
Jason (12:09):
Right, and we're just talking.
This is not just a sim racingprinting machine.
It's an appliance.
Now, this is definitely part ofthe home.
It's an appliance.
This is a tool.
That's this is a.
Let me stop, bro.
Let me stop On to the show.
Jeff, how was your week?
I mean that's part of your week.
Jeff (12:31):
Yeah, yeah.
No, it's been good.
It's spring break for the kids,so spending some time with him
yeah, racing a bunch, which I'llget into it here in my topic
here, but that was good man.
Jason (12:50):
Boy.
We got a lot to cover today,though.
All right, yes, we do, and andI don't again, I don't want to
hammer the the followers of theshow appreciate you all.
Um, yes, but 3d printing?
I am open to any questions, andso are so are, so is jeff, and
so is eric.
So keep those comments coming.
Those are fun.
We love seeing those.
Um, anyways, I will pass thison to eric for the first topic
of the day.
Um, yeah, what are we?
(13:11):
What are we talking about,brother?
Erick (13:13):
so, uh, there's a little company who makes emracing
products called moza.
You might have heard of themthey.
They uh shook things up today.
Well, yesterday, uh, theyreleased a new product and they
released several products, butin reality I think two at most
(13:33):
are really kind of still in theshow.
I start out with the you knowbasically the secondary one
first.
So this is one of the thingsthey released.
It's a force feedback base.
Right, I call it a base becauseit's a shifter.
It can be a handbrake, it canbe a sequential, it can be h
(13:57):
pattern, six speed, seven speeduh, and it has 12 newton meters
uh of torque 12 newton meters ona shifter damn yes yes, and
they were talking about some ofthe things that you could
emulate with it and even, likeyou know, missing gears when
you're shifting.
They can simulate that, um, whenit's a sequential, like I, I
(14:22):
don't do much shifting, but theywere talking about with the
amount of torque it can createlike a lot of resistance, almost
like a bump stop.
You can adjust that, like asfar as travel and stuff.
It's.
It's pretty interesting, uh, tobe honest.
Uh, I think we're talking aboutthis with somebody else on the
podcast.
Jason (14:41):
We're like they're marketing flight.
Sticks with it.
You see that.
Jeff (14:44):
Yeah Dang, those aren't cheap, huh.
Jason (14:46):
Yep, the flight sticks.
Jeff (14:49):
Yeah, just the stick on the top of the thing is $180.
Jason (14:52):
Bro, look at a Verpo stick.
You're looking at $1,000 for astick.
Sheesh yeah.
It's kind of cheap this iswhere I'd be down here.
Erick (15:02):
Yeah, that's where I'd be .
$40 shifter knob $40,.
Jason (15:05):
Yeah, Let her rip tater chip or just print one, whatever
.
Erick (15:11):
Oh yeah, hey look, you got it right, man you damn right
they're coming out with thatdumb adapters.
So 12 peak.
Jeff (15:24):
It'd be cool, if you have, you know, the moza clutch, if
they could integrate that,because it would be a software
thing, right, hmm, where itdoesn't give you the gear if
your clutch isn't in yeah, andthat actually would be pretty
simple yeah.
Erick (15:44):
Because it's kind of like a binary thing.
Jason (15:47):
There is that shifter that I'm looking at printing the
one that Vlad mentioned.
Jeff (15:51):
Yeah.
Jason (15:52):
The one he built, and it has that feature in it, and
that's what I'm waiting for.
Jeff (16:00):
So they're really pushing the flight sims on this too, and
racing huh.
Erick (16:04):
Yeah, I feel like racing is kind of secondary.
I think that this will probablybe targeted more towards the
Flight Sim guys.
I think it'd be cool, but theywere just from their marketing
(16:25):
it seems to be pretty heavilygeared toward being beneficial
for Flight Sims to use it.
For that, I think they did agreat, great job of, you know,
consolidating products, becauseyou buy this base and it's
essentially whatever you need.
Jason (16:34):
yeah, that makes it worth it, because you have two in one
, basically, or three in one, soyou got a sequential flight
stick and an h pattern yeah, andyeah, it's handbrake, it seems
like you know, because a lot Isee a lot of people trying to
have rigs that do both.
Jeff (16:50):
You know it's hard to do both good, but this one would
give you the option to switchover and put a flight controller
on there.
Jason (16:58):
Well, this solves a problem that most of us like.
Just exactly what you said,jeff.
I'm into flight sims, but Ihave so much racing hardware
it's hard for me to move stuffaround.
So if I can have one piece,that's only half.
All I need is a throttlequadrant, that's it.
And then when?
Jeff (17:20):
I want to go flying.
It's not cheap, though, huhDamn 549.
Jason (17:25):
I would like to try it.
I would like to try it.
Jeff (17:28):
You said it had some type of direct was it direct dive?
I forget what it had for the 12newton meters, so it's got like
think of it as a base.
Jason (17:35):
Look at that.
Read that, Jeff it's.
It says that it simulatesturbulence in the stick.
Jeff (17:41):
That's cool.
I mean, I don't know the firstthing about uh, uh, uh, but that
seems cool yeah, it really doesand it says it's using dual
servo motors and they'redelivering the peak torque a 12
newton meters.
So I don't know probably notsome type of direct drive.
Erick (17:59):
Then I'm not a direct drive yeah, and I think direct
drive uh well, I don't know yeah, direct drive is technically a
servo.
Jason (18:08):
Yeah, it might just be kind of, but why is he using two
of them Interesting?
Jeff (18:15):
Maybe to create that One's good, two's better.
Jason (18:17):
Right, Maybe to create that cross friction right, Left
and right and up and down.
That's probably why they'reusing two of them.
See, with steering on our rigsit's only left and right and up
and down.
That's probably why they'reusing two of them.
See, with steering on our rigsis only left and right.
So that probably, but they looktiny oh maybe so.
Maybe it's 12, 12, 12,.
(18:39):
Sorry for interrupting.
Maybe it's 12 Newton's peak,but that means six a piece.
Jeff (18:46):
Oh, maybe like left and right, forward and backwards.
Erick (18:49):
Yeah, more than likely, because just look at the way
they're saying it like equippedwith dual servo motors and if
it's like that, six newtons isnot I?
Jeff (18:59):
I mean, I'm going to say something that might, you know,
trigger some people, but Iwonder where moza is in the
flight sim hierarchy ofequipment.
You know?
I think it's probably you knowsomewhere, but it started yeah,
you know, but in the sim worldthey're probably slight arcing
upwards.
Erick (19:18):
I wonder where they fit in the pecking order for flight
sim equipment uh, I don't do anyflight sim, yeah, but I mean
I'd say it's probably budget.
Jeff (19:28):
You think so, for 500-something bucks is budget
now.
What's a budget base now go forin sim racing.
Jason (19:37):
I disagree, eric, because you got Thrustmaster I think
those are the budget ones andyou got Logitech making flight
sticks that are like 100 bucksyeah.
Erick (19:46):
I guess that's true.
Jason (19:47):
But the thing is that the price is $549, right.
Erick (19:51):
But it's not just a flight stick.
Jason (19:54):
It's a dual triple, it's three things in one.
But if I was a flight sim onlyguy, I wouldn't be looking at
this.
I would be looking at somethingespecially for that price.
I would be looking at somethinga little different, right,
something like a Verpool, or Iforget the other ones, but
Verpool is the one that thatresonates with me.
(20:16):
I like.
I like their brand.
Erick (20:18):
Yeah, something more purpose built.
And it makes sense that I thinkthe person using the single rig
and trying to do dual you know,do racing and flights in this
will probably have like immensevalue because of the space
savings.
Oh true.
Jason (20:34):
And you see the top of that right.
It looks like some sort ofquick disconnect where you can
push down and spin it to lock itTwist to lock.
That's what it looks like.
It looks clean, it looks like amodern design.
You know it's just six newtonson a shifter is not that much
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torque, you know, because yougot to think, guys, you think if
it's a short shifter, thenleverage right.
The less leverage, the lessforce.
But if you have a somewhatmedium-sized shifter, six
newtons is nothing you can.
Jeff (21:15):
That looks cool.
Jason (21:17):
Yeah, I don't know what aircraft that's for, but that
looks cool.
That's a fighter jets.
Jeff (21:24):
Yeah, it's some type of.
Erick (21:26):
I was hoping they'd show the connector on the bottom a
little bit or give us a littlebit of angle on it Of how it
connects.
Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, but itlooks like it's some sort of
quick release, like you weresaying, jason, but it looks like
it might be like a littlecollar that goes up and snaps
down, maybe based on this, ormaybe it twists down.
Jason (21:47):
Or maybe it goes up and then it stays up and then, when
it comes down, it locks it downlike yeah yeah, I can see that,
but yeah, so this is the, thebase.
Erick (21:58):
Like I said, this is the uh, probably the second most
interesting thing from.
You know my standpoint, um, andlet's see well, I think it's
pretty cool.
Jason (22:11):
I think I think it's not for everybody, is what I'm going
to say.
I think that's geared towards aparticular user and here we go.
Jeff (22:23):
What do you?
Erick (22:24):
got here, buddy, this looks super cool, yeah, so this
is definitely the piece thatstole the show.
So Jason was.
I was messaging him when I wastrying to just get to this page,
not even purchase it, but theirsite was crashing Just trying
to pull this page up thismorning after they sent out the
(22:47):
email saying that this was, thiswas live.
So they were having some, a lotof, I some, a lot of, I assume,
a lot of demand, a lot ofpeople that were just interested
.
But this is their moza mbooster active pedal.
So first things first mostimportant piece is the price
$7.99 to $9.99, right.
So if you want just this pedal,it is $799.
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And as far as active pedaloptions go, that's less than
half of what you'd pay for thecurrent options, which are the
Simicube.
Pro and the Simicube Ultimate.
So I think, as far as it beingbudget, if you're looking for
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active pedal, that's definitelythat's the only game in town in
the budget world, uh, but 700bucks for your one pedal is you
know?
Jeff (23:41):
800 seven yeah, it's not, yeah, it's not yeah, budget
period for any socialimagination, but, but it's and
I'll say this cheaper than thesemi-cube 100.
Erick (23:51):
Yeah I'll say less expensive, I'm not gonna say
cheap yeah yeah, well it's.
Jason (23:58):
I think it's two products that you really can't compare
right.
In my opinion.
Um, if something costs half theprice, there's definitely.
Uh, there's definitely.
What do you call thisShortcomings?
That were measures that weretaken to get it at that price
point.
Jeff (24:18):
Yeah, Simucube isn't pocketing a G per pedal.
They're making or they'reselling right.
Jason (24:24):
No, and I mean I wouldn't recommend any active pedal to a
new sim racer anyway.
That's my opinion, that's mytwo cents.
Right Like, if you're going tostart out with sim racing and
you're building a budget set,there's way not better pedals,
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but there's other options foryou to start.
However, if you are in the Mozaecosystem, what remains to be
seen is that if this pedal workson console, then that would
make it the only active pedal towork out the box on a console,
which we don't know.
We don't know yet becausethey're so they're.
(25:10):
They literally just came outlike days ago, like maybe two or
three days ago yeah I don'tthink anybody has their hands on
them other than reviewers.
Uh, like mike from the simracing den has it, I think,
boosted media and um race beyondmatter, which is another,
another great creator that hasit.
Jeff (25:29):
Yeah, I don't think they've reached the wild.
You know came into the wild.
Jason (25:31):
Yet to your point, so if Moza, yeah, if this pedal works
on the console, then this ishands down.
It's going to have to be thebest option you can get on a
console, because it's the onlyactive, it's the only thing that
exists.
Wait, right there, right there,with support for inverted
(25:52):
mounting and full compatibilitywith pc and xbox system okay.
Erick (25:57):
Yeah, that's what I was looking for, because I know they
have an xbox bundle, but I wastrying to see which pedals
worked, and the crp2 pedals.
Jason (26:05):
I'll go back to the so are they saying the crp works,
or they're saying the boosterworks?
Erick (26:12):
So the booster, if you're going to use it with a pedal
set, you'd have to use it with.
It says compatible with CRP2pedals for enhanced performance
and seamless integration.
So they have the option for youto buy it with the CRP2
throttle.
So they have the option for youto buy it with the CRP2
throttle and I would assume thatthis would just show up as a
(26:35):
brick.
But the question obviously withconsole is once you disconnect
this from the PC, or do you needto have this plugged into the
PC, to a PC and the console forthe options to to stick?
Jason (26:50):
so how that works would be interesting and correct the
trouble and if the sim actuallysupports an active pedal,
because there's sims out therethat don't, that don't.
Yes, yeah, there's sims outthere.
Simi cube is.
Simi cube was the only activepedal until up until now that's
on the market and for LMU theyhad to be a patch and an update
(27:15):
to get it to work, to get thethe pedal works, but the
telemetry with the ABS, theG-Force and everything and all
the other stuff that it does.
Erick (27:26):
So that's kind of cool, though I mean, I don't know, I
don't know I was looking at the$1,000 price and, to be honest,
that's a better deal because youget the pedal, which is $800 by
itself, but then you get theCRP2 throttle pedal, the CRP2
(27:48):
plate and the extended plate forfor essentially 200 bucks more,
yeah, but essentially nobody's.
Jeff (27:57):
I don't think there's going to be anybody that orders
it with the stuff, because theperson that's getting into sim
racing isn't buying an activepedal to jason's point.
Right, these are people thathave something and want to take
the next step with an activepedal.
I think they're just by thesingle pedal and integrate it to
whatever setup they have.
Jason (28:26):
I agree with Jeff 100%.
However, someone that has a rigwhich is not many of us someone
that has a rig that uses aconsole to project to, not to
project to play the sim, this isan option for them, but it's
only on Xbox, it's not onPlayStation.
So, hands down, the best sim onconsole is GT7, I must say.
(28:49):
I mean ACC is on there, butagain, acc is severely limited
on there.
There's no third party serversupport.
If they were, then I would havea very, very different opinion
on it.
Erick (29:07):
But as far as online.
Jason (29:08):
You know racing, racing, you know gt7 has the grids.
Erick (29:12):
You know, it's just the way it is yeah, and I'll say
this too acc on ps5 at leastdoes not, um, does not, send out
telemetry.
So okay, even if you have a pcwith simHub, it won't send
anything out.
Yeah.
So, DT7 wins there as well.
Jeff (29:33):
I say this guys.
Yeah, go ahead, jeff, I wasgoing to say let's talk about
the price for a second.
I think Moza picked the perfectprice.
I don't know what their profitmargin is, but I think that they
killed it with the pricebecause there's still a huge gap
to the semi-cube pedal, right?
(29:55):
I mean, what are we looking athere?
Almost a thousand dollardifference.
Um, now the the question herein everybody's mind that's
watched this come out was isthere a thousand dollar
difference in performance?
And my opinion, we'll know whenthe masses get this thing, uh,
and what they have to think.
I I if, if you're sentsomething, it's hard for me to
(30:18):
take it that it's.
There's only a handful ofpeople out there in the world
that I trust their opinion,regardless of what they say when
they get it shipped to them forfree.
We'll see what it comes out.
You know, when somebody thatpaid their thousand dollars to
get it, what they think of it isthat if it's going to make up
that thousand dollar pricedifference for performance, does
that?
Erick (30:35):
does that make sense?
What I'm trying to say?
yeah yeah, I think that'll bejust to.
I mean so to be honest, ifyou're the only show in town,
the price is whatever you makeup.
Yeah, just being honest.
So as far as semi-cube havingactive pedal, they literally had
a technology nobody else had.
There was no competition as acompany, who it started to make
(30:59):
money like.
That's why you start a company.
They priced this at a at apoint where they created a.
It sounds like a luxury tax,almost like saying that you know
they're.
Jeff (31:12):
There's no way it could be as nice as this.
Jason (31:16):
There's no way it can be I mean yeah, okay is there a
thousand dollar price.
Jeff (31:20):
Is there a thousand dollar delta between the two everybody
?
Jason (31:24):
that'll be hard to is the thousand dollar question
everybody knows that I'm a SammyCube fan, and it's because I'm
a fan of the reliability oftheir products.
Well it's good top quality shit.
Buddy Construction right, yeah,but to be honest, here on the
show on the Chicane podcast,it's something that we'll never
(31:45):
know until we try both of them.
That is the correct answer andthat is the answer.
That is a question that youneed to tell yourself, right?
If you're shopping for a pedal,if you want the next step, if
you're a beginner, don't look atthese, I promise you.
Jeff (32:07):
You won't appreciate it for one.
Jason (32:09):
Right.
Erick (32:11):
It'll be hard to justify it.
Jason (32:13):
There's other better, not better but there's great
alternatives at a fraction ofthe cost to get you into the
hobby.
Now, if you already have a rig,you have a setup, you have
everything and you'reconsidering this.
You got to ask yourself thequestion.
First of all, it's hard this isreally difficult for me to put
(32:35):
out.
It's a quality thing, but it'sa quality thing that you can't
test out unless you go to a simracing expo or unless you have a
friend that has the products.
It's not something that you canbuy in straight up return.
It's really hard to do that.
Um, so yeah, I would.
(32:56):
I would just say this, I wouldjust this I'm gonna piggyback
off jeff.
Um, let's get the masses outthere, let's get the data, and
there's really no other wayother than to just take the
plunge I mean, I watched, youknow, every review I could kind
of watch and that we had.
Jeff (33:14):
Somebody had something about there and I did like the.
The comments were hey, it seemsto be a little bit more grainy
with the push, um, with you knowthe stroke, if you will the
pedal, then this I don't know ifthey had the semi-cube, but
that was their feedback um, ifyou're thinking you're getting
the semi-cube for you knowlegitimately half the price and
(33:35):
I think you probably shouldcheck your expectations, um, but
you're also saving a thousanddollars.
Jason (33:41):
So let's be honest here, right, I mean that's a that's a
great argument that we can haveall day.
Because I will counter withthis If you purchase the
Simicube, 99% of the time it's abetter-pilled product.
You don't have to worry aboutit.
This is a brand-new productthat we don't know if it's going
(34:03):
to, later down the road, breakdown or if you're going to have
an issue with it or whatever itis.
And that a thousand dollarsthat you saved, you suddenly
didn't save anything.
You know what I mean, and I'vehad other branded hardware on my
rig and, trust me, I thought Iwas saving money and that I was
(34:24):
mistaken.
So I mean and that's again,that's a back.
That again, that's a gooddebate.
It's a healthy debate becausewe're trying to give you
perspective.
Jeff (34:35):
And this is awesome, right ?
This competition thing is goodfor everybody.
A people get cheaper stuff,like I had a high school coach
said like competition, whatmakes America great?
You know, when it comes toquality and price.
Jason (34:49):
Look at Semi-Cube like a Porsche, right, let's say a
Porsche comes out and it's a 911, what is it?
Gtrs?
Right, gt3rs?
That's almost a $400,000 car.
But then you have I don't know,I'm going to piss people off,
I'm going to say it here on theshow.
(35:10):
Then you got a Tesla Model Sthat completely smokes the
Porsche like tenfold and fightme on that, let's go.
Comments, I'm ready.
And it's like a fraction of thecost.
Is Porsche going to lower theprice?
They're like no, we're Porsche,we're not going to lower our
price just because there's acompetitor out there.
There is a user base andthere's a following.
(35:33):
Yeah, there's a, there's afollowing of that brand and
they're like well, I mean, yeah,that's great, that's, that's,
that's your $800 pedal.
I have my pedal over here.
Which one would you like?
You know what I mean.
Like comparing, yeah.
Erick (35:50):
Yeah, that's a great.
That's a perfect comparison too, because in that comparison the
tesla only beats the porsche inone category which is exactly
drag racing that's it.
Jason (36:00):
You put them both straight line speed and the
tesla dies and the porsche runsoff with it.
Erick (36:05):
So literally and figuratively yeah, so I think,
comparing the semi-cube to thebut they're both cars.
Jason (36:12):
You know what I'm trying to say.
Erick (36:13):
They're both pedals, they're both cars, you know yep,
and in this comparison with thepedals, the one of the kind of
fundamental benefits is you putthis pedal on your rig and you
never have to get down there toadjust it again.
You do all that software sothat they both provide that
benefit exactly.
Ie, they're both cars.
But if you are competing, ifyou are somebody who is like
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very into precision and you'relike you're running your rig
heavy, you might need thequality, reliability of the
semi-q, whereas if you're moreof a casual person who you know
exactly good moza durabilitymight work for you this is the
real talk about this type ofstuff.
Jason (36:56):
Guys, I want you to listen to this, because this is
the real talk, seriously, I Imean you can.
You can be either or you can bea casual or competitor, but you
can also be someone that'schasing immersion or someone
that's chasing a you know, pedalvr yeah, I've dreamed about
(37:18):
having having one of thesepedals, like I've got shakers on
mine.
Erick (37:23):
This would be crazy they have a stock yeah, sorry look at
that.
Jeff (37:28):
You can't even buy it right now.
Jason (37:29):
That's the ultimate, though.
Jeff (37:31):
Yeah, that's the ultimate.
Jason (37:34):
So the ultimate is the one that's kind of like oof.
I mean, that's why theyreleased the Pro, right?
The Pro is kind of like they'retrying to be more competitive
in the market without losing toomuch.
Because that pedal is overkill,the strength of it is overkill.
Erick (37:53):
This is what you need, right here.
Jason (37:56):
Scroll up to see the back there you go.
So you know, I think from anundisclosed source.
I've heard some things aboutthe new Moza pedal and again,
it's very early stages.
These guys got test review.
What do you call this Versionone?
(38:19):
What do you call that Betaversions?
Or the software is brand new.
You can't expect things to beabsolutely perfect.
That's asking for much.
Even if it was a semi-cubeproduct, I would say the same
thing Give it time to cook, letpeople use them for a few weeks
(38:41):
after the fact.
Erick (38:43):
I don't care if you've been using it for three months.
Jason (38:44):
And then you're like, yeah, I've been using the pedal
for three months and it'sawesome for three months.
And then you're like, yeah,I've been using the pedal for
three months and it's awesome.
No, I want to know where thepedal stands in the community
and how is it growing with itlater.
Are things breaking, glitches,what have you so enough?
I know I'm rambling, sorryabout that, but it's a great
(39:05):
discussion.
It's a great discussion becauseI'm not telling you to buy a
semi-cube and that's it.
I'm sharing my experience andmy experiences.
Semi-cube hardware has been thebest that I've used and it
always impresses me and it'sstill my favorite part of the
rig.
But that's me, that's Jason.
(39:27):
You know so, but that's me.
That's Jason.
That's the new Moza pedal.
It should be available.
You can order it right now andthe shifter More to follow.
Jeff (39:43):
Grab it and let us know how it is.
That too, yeah, do that.
Jason (39:48):
Or maybe we can have mike and we can have a discussion
with him.
Who knows mike?
You're watching this and he canlet me know.
Jeff (39:53):
Let me know or somebody buy it and make a review so we
can watch it moza, you cansponsor us.
I will test this pedal for youI got a place right there for it
, right in there look I willhurt my back.
I was about to say I I couldhave sworn.
I just heard my knees chirpingto say, hey, we want that, we
want it, we don't want to haveto get down in there again.
Jason (40:14):
Oh yeah, so that alone is kind of a worthy feature.
But yeah, so what's next, eric,what we got next today?
Erick (40:25):
For me.
I didn't know if I know Jeffwas talking about something on
iRacing.
I didn't know if you wanted totouch on that oh okay, so, jeff,
what do you got?
Jeff (40:37):
for us this week.
Yeah, just you know.
I think most people havenoticed the.
It's just the update to the toiRacing as the new season gets
started.
I think by that when this dropswe'll have the new season
started.
Um, not going to dig super intoit because it's most kind of
play, catch up and clean upbusiness here.
I think everybody's the biggestpoint is the graphics and the
(40:57):
sun and just it pops is thatprobably the best massive?
changes.
We kind of skip over the NASCAR.
I think we kind of spoke onthis the last update that spoke
to iRacing is really dumping alot of effort into updating
NASCAR and I think to that pointI don't think they had went a
(41:19):
while without updating the cars,the inside, the tracks et
cetera.
So they're dumping a lot intothat.
But boy, it just looks nicegoing around the track.
And Jason, you brought up agood point the other day in that
text.
You were like, hey, delete anduninstall the.
Um, what's that software?
Reshade, reshade.
Jason (41:37):
Yeah, you don't need anymore so, yeah, if you guys go
back into a previous I don'tthink we mentioned it on the
show or maybe we have briefly,but uh, dan suzuki, which I'm a
big fan of, dan, if you'rewatching, I love what you do.
Man, keep doing what you'redoing.
He created a video that werethe best settings for iRacing.
Now the video is still he's notjoking, yeah, it's really good.
(42:01):
But at the time we didn't havethis new lighting model.
So he told you hey, you caninstall this program, it's free,
it's called Reshade and you canmess with the lighting or
simulate a fake HDR or sharpenthe image.
But again, it's a little bit ofpower that you would need to
(42:27):
run that in the background.
Jeff (42:29):
Just a little bit.
Performance takes a little bitof hit.
Jason (42:31):
Just a slight hit, but then every time that iRacing has
made now two times I thinkthey've made changes to their uh
, lighting gamut and you know,the lighting itself basically in
reflections, um, there's nomore need for reshape there,
really isn't?
I uninstalled it and you know,you get that little bit of
(42:53):
performance back and it pops.
Man, I mean it's really nice.
It's really nice.
Um, so something to consider ifyou were using reshade and I
don't know, I think it's great,I think that's how it should be
right yeah, I mean it.
Jeff (43:07):
Just it was like I don't say night and day.
When you jumped in and got youafter you did the update, which
my update was like 30 gigs thisweek, this, this season, I was
like holy cow.
I didn't even take the content,I was like, just give me what I
need to get back into it.
Yes, so it looks.
It looks no, beautiful,beautiful um that's really, you
(43:31):
know, big nascar update, big um.
Jason (43:34):
You know, uh, I won't say graphics, but uh and all the
tracks they updated like seventracks of nascar a lot of nascar
update yeah the, the new, thenew, um, kind of what they were
doing with spa and remaking orre, uh, redoing the tracks,
remapping, yeah, with theirdrone footage and all kinds of
stuff.
They're doing that, they'regiving that to nascar which
(43:56):
reminds me yeah, go ahead, goahead.
Jeff (43:58):
I was gonna say it would be super cool if I racing
released a video like behind thescenes over, like them, from
them flying the drone to how itgets.
Jason (44:06):
To software release like just show it's coming, it's
gotta it's gotta be, it's gottabe what it's gotta be in the
makes.
Like them in the back and yousee the computer and they're
dialing in.
Jeff (44:20):
Yeah, that would be.
You know, because, like we'retech people, you know we get a
kick out of that stuff, how thatstuff works and is built Unless
it's like the secret sauce typeof stuff you know where they're
like.
We don't need the other.
You know our competitors.
If you were learning how thatwe're doing this, I don't know.
Jason (44:42):
You the other.
You know our competitors.
If you were learning how thatwe're doing this, I don't know.
You know I could understand ifthey didn't.
I will say this something aboutnascar is I'm not really a fan
of watching nascar because Imean, in my opinion it's just
left turn racing.
Sorry, again, jason is on firetoday go ahead and crucify me,
but that right tire is brand new.
I would take that right tire.
They don't need it.
I'll put it in my car um, butracing racing in an oval race is
(45:08):
intense as hell bro dude it'shard, it's hard and it's intense
.
So i'm'm actually excitedbecause DNR just built a
dashboard that's specificallymade for Oval Racing and he's
the only one that has one outthere right now.
So I mean, you pair that withthe new update to iRacing and
(45:32):
the tracks and the three newNASCAR cars that are releasing.
Erick (45:36):
Yeah, I was going to bring that up.
Jason (45:39):
It's time to get our Oval license.
That's what it's time.
Jeff (45:42):
It's about that time I gotta quit messing around and
just knock.
I think I have like one moreone more race to do or uh um, in
the rookies I keep going tounranked races because they're
fun the driving them is verydifferent very different it's.
It's totally different than,like a formula car, uh yeah but
(46:03):
man uh does race.
Racecraft exist in oval racingdude, you get in these nascar
and you're going down thestraightaway and you'll be on
the wall, we'll say, and thenyou don't move the wheel and
somehow you're in on inside.
You're like I don't know how Imoved, but I moved yeah, yeah,
(46:23):
that's, that's that's steepnesson.
Jason (46:25):
Them turns sometimes, man yeah, it's just participation
on.
Jeff (46:29):
I'm racing too and you know like, oh yeah, but boy, if
you do an unranked race inNASCAR, watch out.
Yeah, because your whole raceis bumper to bumper and one
knucklehead sneezes and it'sover for everybody.
Jason (46:44):
That's one of the hardest ones to get out of.
Rookies is because of that themassive wrecks.
It's hard to drive a clean racethere.
But that's part of the culture,right?
Um, but that's part of theculture, right?
The crashing in nascar, uh, thebumper to bumper to bump,
drafting the to just hit them inthe back and go faster because
I'm going faster.
You only need one gear innascar, bro, it's fifth or
(47:08):
fourth downshift no it's onlyfour it's only s4.
Okay, it's four.
Erick (47:14):
It's four speed yeah, so once you get to four, forget
about it.
Jeff (47:18):
You can just unplug the usb.
Jason (47:19):
You don't even need it but again, it's not that simple,
I'm telling you.
I tried it and it was afreaking blast.
I I was shaking, I was likedude, this is crazy, like I got
people.
Oh man, it was fun, it was fun,it was fun, it was fun.
Jeff (47:37):
I think I told you guys this but to get out of Rookies
you need to race tracks that arelike 0.3 miles, like 0.2 miles.
I'm talking like 20-second laptimes.
Jason (47:50):
Yeah, I had to turn off, I was getting dizzy.
Jeff (47:53):
It's just like constant turn.
Jason (47:59):
As soon as you get the car straightened out, it's a
turn again.
You know what might be fun,dude, is NASCAR Gen 3, like the
faster ones the fastest ones, Iguess but actually doing like an
endurance race, we have to pitand to see what that car feels
like with those tires gone.
There's got to be somethingcrazy.
I'm going to have to look intothis.
(48:23):
I don't know if I shared thiswith everybody maybe I did, but
my, my old.
Jeff (48:25):
There you go, you got the tool, you got this here, man, so
I broke her in.
Jason (48:27):
She's been, she's been used a little bit so you got the
tool man, so oh yeah, I guesswe got time for one more topic.
I got a quick one.
Yeah, you do.
I got one more.
Jeff (48:43):
More of a discussion here.
Pete Jason tagged me somethingon Facebook today.
I'm sorry, eric did.
I was like Eric.
You can't tell people I've beenVR racing.
I can't be telling people I'vebeen driving VR.
Jason (48:56):
Because you got triples in the vr.
Jeff (48:58):
I was like yeah, like people anyway.
So, all right, I have beendriving the last week in vr um.
First data point I'm notgetting motion sick anymore,
like when I was doing it.
Jason, you saw where the rigwas upstairs and I was getting
motion sick.
I couldn't do a lap when Imoved it down here.
And I think there's two thingswhy I'm not getting motion sick
and I bring this up do a lapwhen I moved it down here.
And I think there's two thingswhy I'm not getting motion sick
(49:19):
and I'm bringing this up.
So a lot of people don't getinto it because of the motion
sick that they get.
So I'm hoping that what I thinkhelped me can help some other
people is the first and foremostis my wheel is exactly where
the wheel is in my headset.
So it feels like my hands areactually on the wheel.
It's not.
They're not off one way or theother.
(49:40):
So that is the first one.
The second one, I think, is thebutt kicker.
I think that helps.
You feel like you're in the car.
So you start the car up and youcan feel it start to vibrate,
accelerate, go over the curb andyou feel like you're.
You know, like you're gettinganother sense of feedback to the
right, to you that you'reactually there, opposed to
(50:02):
tricking your mind that you'rethere.
And that's where I feel likeI'm getting like the motion sick
.
I didn't get sick at all, um,and I did.
I was doing like two or threeraces, um, just long stints of
practice.
I could drive around and lookaround and I was fine.
So I don't know what it was,but boy am I glad I jumped into
(50:22):
it Because really, what got itis the split reality or the
mixed reality that I really wantto do that.
We talked about a coupleepisodes ago, oh yeah.
Where you can use your wheelBlended reality and then see the
car, and I think that is asgood as it gets.
I just spent all this money onthis wheel.
I want to see the damn wheel.
I want to see my DNR.
Jason (50:47):
That is the future, bro.
That is the future right there.
Jeff (50:51):
So I've slowly started to tinker with it.
That dude says he's going torelease a how-to video any day
now.
Jason (51:04):
Like bro, quit beating around the freaking bush.
Just, I think somebody, I thinkI think somebody left a comment
on what they think he did.
I mean, I haven't tried itmyself, um, I just, I just been
busy printing man, printingstuff.
I need to get to that.
Jeff (51:16):
I need to get to that, but um, yeah, nascar is definitely
yeah, go ahead, jeff no, I wasgonna say so those are two.
You know, if you're one ofthose, I'd give the try to try
to make it what your way yourhands and wheel are.
Try to match that as best youcan.
Um, and I think the buck kickermight have helped too.
Um, but I don't know why I justall of a sudden light switch.
Jason (51:35):
Don't get sick anymore maybe you just got used to it,
maybe maybe, I don't know.
Maybe the more you use it, themore you kind of adjust to
wearing a headset I I'm guessingmaybe it is wicked.
Jeff (51:50):
Cool.
Jason (51:50):
Yeah, it is, yeah, and I racing too, is pretty light on
on VR and it looks pretty good.
Jeff (52:01):
That's all I've done, I think, but it is spectacular,
that's okay, there's nothingwrong with people that race in
VR.
Jason (52:09):
I'm saying it here on the show.
Yeah, it is.
Jeff (52:11):
You choose your weapon, I might go back to my triple and I
do some time to time, go backand forth this past week, but
it's just cool that, like, youcan look behind you, you can.
You know, um, and then, whereyou move your head, your mirrors
move.
You know, if you want to look alittle bit more to the right,
you can move your head a littlebit in the mirror.
You know, like it wouldn't reallife, um, it's just wicked in.
(52:35):
You know the formula classwhere you're, like, you know,
right on somebody and, um, I dofeel like I can put my nose, I
feel like I sense my nose alittle closer to where that car
is in front, especially likefirst corner turns, where you
want to stay as tight as you can.
Um, but boy, my brother, mybrother came over here and I put
(52:56):
him in a NASCAR thing, causehe's just that's, all he likes
is NASCAR.
He went, he was like this ispretty sweet and then like lost
it and went right into the andhe was like whoa and he like put
his hands up, but definitely, Ithink the fan would help a lot,
because you do get hot with thething on your face.
No, you just want that Winsome,just buy it bro, I do, I should
(53:17):
just get the damn stuff.
There you go, man Just get thedamn Winsome Get it, Eric.
You find yourself Wait a minuteStop, emergency Stop.
Jason (53:24):
You have a 3D printer now , jeff, you can 3D print the
mounts.
Jeff (53:38):
You can go over to home depot and get the ducks some pc
fans.
Jason (53:39):
So here's the problem, because I've thought about this
already all you need is theboard, the controller, that's.
Jeff (53:42):
I know, oh, like that's the cheap stuff, the, the, the
printing, the printing stuff,the cheap stuff like you're
really paying for.
You know the board and you knowusb interface, etc you can.
Jason (53:52):
You can print your own.
You can order a board andsolder it.
Jeff (53:55):
You can right, but then do I really want to hook that up
to my PC?
Jason (54:00):
and fry everything.
But now I'm getting intosoldering too, because it's
eventual.
It's related to 3D printing,because if you 3D print, you
realize that you can make thingsthat you couldn't make before.
You can make things that youcouldn't make before, and now
the missing piece is being ableto create electronics and build
(54:22):
housings for them.
So I'm trying to learn.
But before anything getsplugged into that baby back
there, I better be sure of whatI'm doing.
You know what I mean.
Jeff (54:33):
You can buy a little baby laptop.
Jason (54:34):
You can also get a voltmeter and check to see if
there's any like what do youcall this?
Shorts or whatever?
Jeff (54:41):
Yeah, it just is.
Jason (54:43):
I know it's risky, I hear you.
I hear you.
There's options out there whichI'm going to.
You know what For the nextepisode.
I'm going to see what optionsare there.
We're going to go, we're goingto dive deep on Winsims, next
one.
Jeff (54:58):
Eric, you to go.
We're going to dive deep on onon winsims.
Next one, erica, you, youreally got me into vr driving.
You sent that video a whileback.
It was formula racing againstthe like, the uh ferrari.
You still, you still do any vrdriving at all uh, I do um to
your point about being hot.
Erick (55:10):
That is something I mean I want to address because they
have different inserts for theheadset.
I think it's like the GlobulaCluster or something like that.
It's like a memory foam withcooling pads and all that stuff
and distributes the weightbetter and all of that.
Jason (55:29):
That sounds crazy, the cluster on your face.
Erick (55:34):
Yeah, it's a wild name, but apparently they're like the,
the gold standard for justcomfort and consistency too.
Um, because the psvr2 headsetthe type of lenses it has it has
a very small sweet spot.
So being able to get theheadset to that spot and then
get it there consistently, haveit stay while you're racing is
(55:57):
could be problematic.
But, um, back to your question.
I do VR race and GT seven, butI've actually been doing more um
without the headset here morerecently.
Um, and it's nice to have, likemy lovely dashboard and you
know, see my button box and youknow with the, to see my you
know button box and you knowwith the screen and just get
(56:19):
like we were talking aboutbefore being able to enjoy some
of the other stuff see my wheeland-.
Jason (56:23):
Being free, too, from something on your face.
Erick (56:26):
Yeah, being free Cause I've you know, I 3D printed a
MagSafe mount for my phone.
It's on my rig, so I have myphone mounted on there and be
able to change music or whatever.
Jason (56:40):
I'm telling you, bro, I'm 3D printing stuff, so I have
the bamboo studio on the topmonitor and I'm racing on.
Yeah, bro.
Erick (56:48):
I found uses for it.
Hey, y'all have got to go, lookat that.
Look, you hear Jason talkingabout a sweatshop.
You got to watch his Instagramreel.
Jason (56:58):
My sweatshop yeah.
Erick (57:00):
Make sure you go, look at the reel and it will tell you
everything you need to knowabout what Jason has going on
over there.
Man, it's a setup.
Jason (57:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a Next level.
Erick (57:11):
Yeah, one guy made a comment on it.
He's like man, this is a wetdream, it's a wet dream.
Jason (57:16):
Yeah, comment on it.
He's like man, this is a wetdream.
And I got that Hans Zimmer,what you call it, from the
interstellar playing in thebackground because I can't
believe what's happening.
I just can't believe it.
Something out of this world,Meet the Jetsons.
Anyways, guys, great contenttoday, a lot of good discussions
(57:36):
here.
It's good to have the differentopinions on things, man,
because that's what makes ushuman right Is everyone has an
opinion, but gathering data andputting it all together is how
we get you to a decision.
So before we close the show andyou go out and watch reviews on
(57:57):
those pedals, just know thatreviewers are geared to either
left or they're geared to eitherright, with a grain of salt,
because when you install thepedals, you're not going to know
(58:17):
up until the day that you putthe foot on the pedal and it's
going to tell you this was worthit or it was not worth it.
So that's the realist answer.
I mean I can't tell you.
I can't tell you one way or theother.
You know what I mean.
So I really appreciate you guys.
Thank you, eric, for drivingmost of the episode today and,
(58:38):
jeff, welcome to the 3D PrintingGang.
You're my late bloomer.
Jeff (58:43):
But we got you there.
Better late than never.
Jason (58:45):
But, we got you there, brother, we got you there.
And you're loving it, which isthat makes me feel good,
because-.
Jeff (58:51):
Wife loves it Little dude sits in front of the screen
watching it print.
Jason (58:57):
I told you, you, bro, quality time didn't I tell you I
told you quality time with thefamily y'all haven't started
designing stuff yet look at that
Jeff (59:03):
no, I know so that's right .
Yeah, I'm looking forward tothat too, yeah hopefully we'll
have.
Jason (59:09):
If we have some more info for you guys on any of the
stuff that we mentioned here onthe show today, we will
definitely come back with afollow-up and update you guys.
Um, but right now we're justlike you.
We're.
We're seeing a product come out, is q2 and it's available for
purchase.
That's all we know.
Reviewers have had this pedalfor months, but we don't, as a
(59:31):
user sim racer.
We don't have, I don't have anydata for you yet.
I don't think any of us youknow do so until we can go to a
store and try them out, which isI don't know if that's going to
happen.
Erick (59:45):
That might happen for me.
Jason (59:47):
It might happen.
Yeah, micro center no.
Erick (59:51):
So that gigapart store that's over here they have two
full mosa setups, they have aflight sim and they have a
racing sim interesting for youto try.
Okay, I've been going by therelike looking at the shelf,
looking around like y'all gotone of them active pedals y'all
got it so and then he bust out aDSLR camera like oh you don't
(01:00:17):
say Like a sword.
I'm telling you oh yeah, I'mgoing live immediately.
Jason (01:00:23):
Immediately.
Erick (01:00:24):
All right guys.
Jason (01:00:25):
Well, thank you so much again.
And yeah, if you have anyquestions or comments or
concerns, please email us atthechicanepodcasts at gmailcom.
And with that I'm going to givethis over to Jeff, because he
keeps forgetting to say it Drivefast people and break late.
Even though we kind of skippedthe round table and Track of the
(01:00:48):
Week, stay tuned for that.
We just had a lot of news today.
We wanted to put that out foryou.
So Track of the Week willreturn on the next iteration of
the Chicane Podcast and withthat, have a great start of your
week, Thank you.
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