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June 26, 2025 • 90 mins

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In this episode of The Chris and Mike Show, the hosts delve into various themes surrounding music production, guest interactions, and the dynamics of the music industry. They explore the importance of dedicated internet for podcasting, the financial realities artists face in the streaming era, and the growing trend of health-conscious eating.

The conversation also touches on diverse guest experiences, pop culture references, and personal anecdotes that enrich the dialogue. Additionally, they discuss the scientific findings related to cannabis use and cognition, while looking ahead to future guests and topics.

In this engaging conversation, Chris and Mike explore various themes ranging from the impact of star athletes on women's sports to the legacy of Michael Jordan. They discuss the evolution of athletic training, the influence of fast food on health, and the importance of organization in daily life. The conversation also touches on the rise of Amazon, the controversy surrounding 'Super Size Me,' and the fascination with pop culture phenomena like zombies. Throughout, they emphasize the significance of mental health and community support.

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(00:00):
Hey, Le Moyne. Yeah, Le Moyne.
Call into the show can. We play your song, everybody.

(00:28):
Listen to me, I want to tell you.
So did you know that Jim Morrison, when they recorded the
riders in the storm, he actuallylaid an entire track of whisper.

(00:51):
So if you if you listen real closely, you can hear him
rioters on the storm. Especially when you have
headphones on. Right, Right as you singing
Riders on the Storm, the background Riders on the Storm.
It's pretty legit man. There was a song that we had
that I wanted you to do that too, and maybe you did anyway, I
don't remember. I we did it something we did
something where I. Was for we did.
We did. We did something.

(01:12):
And that's why I got the idea I,you know, stole from a lizard
king, which, you know. Well, and there was another one
where you talked underneath it, which was like certain parts you
would just use a speaking voice.Yeah, yeah, that was the cool
thing about about being in the recording studio and and
learning from artists that you, that you, you, I don't want to

(01:33):
say like a icons are like idolized because that's such a
weird thing, but artists that you that you respected and
emulate. There you go.
Good word. Hey, this is the Chris and Mike
show boys and girls. And by the way, excuse me, if
you want to come on our show, there's it's super easy and it's
super simply got to be living, breathing and a human.
OK, unless you're an alien and can prove it.

(01:55):
That would be kind of cool, likefrom Venus or Mars or something.
We will. Put you at the front of the
list. We will like we'll, we'll bump
everybody if you're legit alien from another planet, OK, Just
like just saying that now. Also, if you're a serial killer,
whether you're at large or incarcerated, if you're at
large, you, we, you can wear a mask.
We're cool with that. We'll protect your identity.

(02:15):
We will protect your identity, but the catch is this, you have
to have a dedicated Internet, meaning you got to have like
plugged into the wall or in a house Wi-Fi, something that is
not DSL, something that is not ahotspot, something that is
legitimately you're, you're rockand rolling.
And the reason why we know this as, as we've we're now in our
season #3 of this show when we first started back in the day,

(02:37):
Mike had some struggles because you just had DSL and, and, and
DSL is no bueno. Now he's the king of the waves
because he's got fiber optic cabling.
And it's the bomb. It is the bomb diggity like like
his shit is just like legit. Now I'm still wrapped with Cox
Communications and or Verizon, which I unplugged getting rid of

(02:58):
that then we still have Starlink.
But ironically enough, the Cox seems to be better right now
than Starlink. I don't know what that's about.
You know, I'm sure it has something to do with with Elon
and and Donald, you know, bickering back and forth or
sunspots or sunspots. Yeah.
So basically, here's the deal. We want, we want, we welcome
anybody that wants to come on the show, tell your story,

(03:19):
whatever that may be. The more interesting you are,
the better the show is going to be.
If not, I can still. And Mike and I both can still
kind of, you know, pull your story out of you.
But the more engaging you are, the most the more extroverted
you are, the better it's going to be.
But we got to have a dedicated Internet line.
That's the thing. We had a scheduled guest Sunday,
super nice lady named Liz Rodriguez.

(03:39):
She's all about life coaching, things like that.
She's been doing it for a super long time, but unfortunately the
Internet, where she's at was down.
She's trying to hotspot and thisit's not going to work.
I've tried it, ladies and gentlemen.
It doesn't. Work.
Yeah. So we're going to have her back
on. So don't worry Liz, we're going
to have you back on. We are streaming live on
YouTube. So for those of you were
expecting her to be here today, unfortunately, you know,

(04:00):
technology has trumped us, whichis fine, but I'm bumped.
It happens. It does happen.
It does happen. So you can shoot myself a
message, You can shoot Mike a message.
You can go to Facebook to the Chris and Mike show and give us
a message. You can go to the YouTube
because we're streaming live. You can shoot a message there.
It doesn't matter how you reach us, what you do, then Mike

(04:21):
typically sends you to me, 'cause then I'll help facilitate
the scheduling, things like that, and we'll get you on the
show. It's that simple.
You pull the words right out of my mouth.
Right out of his mouth and you and there's.
More than welcome to contact me anytime you want if you feel
more comfortable talking to me, but I'm just going to forward it
to him because it is too much chaos if both people are booking
guests. This is true.
And and the other thing, the other little caveat that we

(04:43):
require, which is which is really multi serving because
we're going to do the same thingfor you.
We want you to go to our our Facebook group, our Facebook
page, Chris and Mike show and like it and review it and then
follow it. Same with the YouTube channel,
give it a subscribe, Instagram, give it a follow and then we'll
turn around and do the same thing for you.
So everybody we've had on the show, we've done the same thing.

(05:05):
Yes. And they'll verify that if you
want to check. That yes totally verify it.
So what would be cool since since unfortunately Liz's
technology network today, we have some really cool shows
coming up, which which will end up being after this one.
So it'd be weird to talk about what's coming up because Howard,
we record ahead of time, but. I just thought of that.

(05:27):
I was like, those are sitting onmy computer.
I'm acting like they're already out there and everybody's heard
them. But I know, I know.
If Lemoyne listens to all our episodes, I just happen to crank
your insecurity song on the way home, brother.
And holy shit is that a banger. Yeah, I just, yeah.
I couldn't get it loud enough. Lamoine Alexander insecurity.
Look it up on Spotify, Apple, wherever you.

(05:50):
Listen to music. Yeah, YouTube as well.
And the cool thing about Lamoine, he's a Grammy nominated
artist that we actually had on the show.
Super, super cool guy. Like dude.
This is a rocker, man. It's.
All. He's totally.
Yeah, yeah. I I mean, I guess I was
expecting one of his bigger. This has got millions of hits.
I thought it was more like in the hip hop and R&B vein.

(06:12):
You know, I guess I misunderstood him when he was
talking about this song or maybewe didn't even talk about it
being a rocking song. I.
Don't know. I, I, I knew that he was based
on our conversation and his, hishis, his launching pad was rap
producing and behind the scenes stuff.
But then when he told the tale about how he took went down to

(06:33):
his his home studio and recordedevery single part of cheap
tricks. I want you to want me.
And Killer Queen. Right.
And then yeah, Yeah. And boys and girls, he did.
He worked with Queen on a song called Killer Queen, which is in
Bohemian Rhapsody, but it was pulled off the movie.
But it's still on the sound sound track, right?
And has received millions of downloads.

(06:53):
And he received, what, a couple of words for it.
And he got 600 bucks. Yeah.
That is if you and because you will, you will have heard that
show by the time this one airs. That was one of the most
intriguing things we talked about where 20 years ago you,
you have two million cells, 2 million song cells, 2,000,000
singles, whatever you want to call it, you making $1,000,000.

(07:14):
Yes, this last year you you dropped 2 million song.
2,000,000 Downloads. Yeah, plays whatever you get,
600 bucks. So I guess he said multiple
million downloads. Right, right, multiple million
downloads. He got 600 bucks, so Snoop.
Dogg had a billion and got 34,000.
Right, so those you didn't thinkLars was an ass 'cause I thought

(07:36):
Lars was an ass when he was. Doing we all did in the
beginning 'cause we didn't understand and he was ahead of
us. He was big time, big time Nikki.
And in fact, I even shared that concept with Nikki and that was
it's like I now I I really trulyunderstand now why artists have
to charge so much when they do their live shows because you got
to pay for the venue. Well, you know what, unless you

(08:00):
unless like Billy Eilish, right,I don't know how she self, she
self wrote, self produced, self distributed.
I think she was on her own labelwhen she dropped all that stuff.
So that dollar that Lemoyne talked about, remember that
Mike, yes, 75 cent goes back to the label, $0.25 is leftover and
that goes to the artist, the promotions, the distribution
and. He said the producer gets the

(08:21):
majority of that right. Right, so a band doesn't.
Leave much for the And if the band has five members, I'm
pretty sure that's where you're going.
Now we have to split that last penny.
You get that nickel, you get thenickel, the bandmates get a
penny each. So like a band like Alter
Bridge, they're splitting 5 cents among four of them.
You know, it's a band like. Metallica, go away with the
penny here. I'll never get paid again.

(08:43):
Right, right, right. So Metallica, same concept.
That's why. And before somebody wants to
come on and debate me about oursand they're welcome to do that,
have a good time. Trust me, I don't get angry.
I just, I have my opinion on, especially on Lars.
Is he the greatest drummer in the world?
Absolutely not. Is he the only drummer that

(09:05):
could have made Metallica? Metallica 100% because he's also
the businessman, right? Right.
And they'll all admit if it wasn't for him, they wouldn't be
where they're at because he was the one that kept the books.
Talk to the booking agents, talkto the, you know, promoters, all
the stuff that nobody wants to do.

(09:26):
He took on his shoulders. And that's why Metallica are,
they're a billion dollar sellingband, right?
They're all 100 millionaires. Chris seems to have lost his
headphones, ladies and gentlemen.
So we'll just keep talking aboutMetallica.
I think we're back in action. I'm dude, I was, I was

(09:46):
listening. My, my, my headphones are being
wacky. So yeah, I, I was like, whoa, I
could hear you then I couldn't hear you.
I could still hear you because of technology.
So I, I know you're talking about Lars and Metallica on the
business side of things and. That's definitely my argument to
anybody that says that somebody else could have done a better

(10:07):
job, right? And there's enough YouTube clips
out there of like Dave Lombardo playing with them.
And does it sound right? Yes.
Does it sound like Metallica? No.
No, that's kind of like white Led Zeppelin.
Can't be Led Zeppelin without Bonham. 100% Wow.
And to me. You should see Nikki right now.

(10:27):
Like what? That's holy shit.
I'll be back in about 1/2 an hour.
I got to carry the show, ladies and gentlemen.
She's got, we're going. We picked up, we picked up
paddle boarding, right? It's like our new little thing.
She loves it. So she got a new little outfit
to go out in the lake and you'reapproved.
I can't stand up right now. It just stopped him dead in his

(10:49):
tracks. I understand there's nothing,
there's nothing better than a beautiful woman, man.
There's nothing better than a beautiful woman.
Nothing. Nothing in this world,
especially when it's your wife, it's.
Tied with an electric guitar because I can't always have the
beautiful woman, right? So I had to.
Exactly. So standing in front of 100 Watt

(11:10):
Marshall is pretty close. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,
different, different, but close,right.
So since we're, since it's a, it's a, it's a Chris and Mike
show like how we started, which is fun because it's every now
and then I like when there's, there's whoopses and then we can
do this because you and I like just Mike and I just like
talking to each other and havinggreat conversations about
things. Yeah, it was funny.

(11:31):
The first thing I was going to tell you was it was nice to talk
to you on the phone, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
MM does a lot of the behind the scenes stuff.
So once, once an episode's done,Mike goes through and, and does
all the short edits and things like that, which isn't, it's a
painstaking process because it takes, yeah, it takes a few
hours. So what you see here is cool,

(11:53):
especially on YouTube because you're watching this live.
But it's the fun part. Right.
Then there's the back end. It's kind of like you can write
the music all you want, then yougot to go record it and that's
the piece by piece by piece by piece.
And you know it's not. Well, the hours I put into
editing, you're putting into talking to guests and getting
them lined up and seeing what they're about and.
Yeah. It's called splitting the time

(12:13):
and dividing the work up. Right.
And then I still go in and I still go in and drop the shorts
and things like that and. And yeah, you run the entire
YouTube channel. It's just kicking ass.
Thank you. And for those of you that like
the shorts, those are actually scheduled every day.
The first one drops at 6:00 AM, the second one drops at 4:00 PM.
We do have the days the shows drop, which are Wednesdays and

(12:33):
Sundays. Then we're going to have three,
three things drop daily there. So there's always something
going on on our YouTube channel.So that's why it's super
important to subscribe because you get notified every time
something comes up. And the shorts are random, which
is kind of cool. They're from guests from the
past, guests from the future. And they all just they, they,
they're, you know, a minute or less knowledge drops like and

(12:55):
fun stuff too. Some of it's silly, some of it's
really interesting and intriguing.
A lot of the health stuff we've done with with Nate Palmer, the
$1,000,000 body and and Peter Ho.
I saw those are really doing well.
Man, that's awesome. You know why?
Because I think the world is so health conscious right now and
especially with with whoever it is in the Trump administration

(13:17):
that's banning all their artificial colors and shit.
Which is great. Right.
And then the epiphany I have with Ritz crackers.
I liked your short. I watched your short on rich
crackers. Thank you very.
Much. I had people chime in and send
me messages after like I'm stopping.
I think you're killing Ritz crackers but man.
God, I just, I don't know how I could put another one in my
mouth knowing what's in there. What's mind boggling to me is.

(13:40):
When they all that shit. Right.
Because when they first made Ritz crackers, it had to be
simple, right? It just had to be the flour and
the salt and whatever. Well, let me tell you one thing
right now, OK? I had the best dinner.
I haven't had pork chops in a long time.
My pork chop dinner last night consisted of a butterfly pork
chop, which was amazing because I know where it came from.

(14:00):
We're lucky around here that thegrocery store that I go to pulls
meat from like within 50 miles of here, right?
Oh, so it's it's like legit fresh, Yeah.
Right on that pig's not that old, right?
Nice. Beautiful butterfly pork chop.
The only thing I did is salt, pepper it and I put some BBQ
sauce on it and it was I was like man this is amazing.

(14:22):
That's it. No sides.
Broccoli and baked potato. OK, see yeah, good job and see a
whole food I learned on this show I I I never really knew
what a. Whole they told me that a potato
is OK 'cause it's just a potato.Right, 'cause I and I, I didn't,
I never really understood what what a whole food was, as stupid
as it sounds. So when Nate and Peter were on

(14:42):
that day, I told like. What I learned so much from both
of those guys. Man, Yeah, yeah, really.
You know, So it's it's it's fun.That's the fun thing about this.
So ladies and gentlemen, if you have not listened to Nate Palmer
or Peter Ho, go back and listen to those episodes because they
were just full of information. I went back and listened to each
one of them a couple times a piece, just pulling different

(15:04):
things out right. Yeah, 'cause it's, it's, that's
the cool thing about shorts. If you don't, if you don't have
time to engage in one of our, our full length shows, you know
which some people don't, right, 'cause sometimes they're an
hour, sometimes they're two. Lemoyne Alexander.
Show is about two hours. Could have talked to him for six
more for sure. Easily, easily.
And the reason we had Nate and Peter back on is because we

(15:24):
could have talked to Nate and Peter forever and ever.
And we will again for sure. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Our only real time constraints when we have you on, just so you
know, listeners and viewers, Thursday or Tuesdays, we have
about 60 to 90 minutes. Fridays, it's fair game.
It's whatever we decide. You know, we've had boxers on,

(15:45):
we've had, we've had Grammy nominated artists, we've had.
I don't know is Arizona USA? Yeah, Missus.
Yeah, right. Missus Arizona USA Going from
Missus Missus USA we've had, I don't know how to frame it, but
we had someone who Jimmy Cross, I don't know how to frame him.
One of my. Favorite shows for Yeah Oh yeah,

(16:05):
Jay. And if you didn't, if you didn't
listen to our Jeremy Cross episode, you should go back and
listen to it, especially if you or someone you know is
struggling with addiction. So Jeremy messaged him back and
he's heard the same thing multiple times, that we were a
great platform for him. You know, those people listen to
all his podcasts that he's on. Yeah, he gave us a really nice
compliment in that he's heard this was the best show, you

(16:27):
know, as far as the interaction.And so thank you very much for
the people who listen to that. That's awesome.
Yes, and thank you, Jeremy, for the compliment.
Absolutely. Yeah.
So, so Jeremy's, Jeremy's show was was has got a lot of buzz.
So go listen to that. Then you'll find out about his
book. You'll find out about his story.
It's a very, it's a very interesting story from somebody
who you know, had a a legit normal happy everyday life and

(16:49):
then just tragically went down into the gutter, like literally
as. Far as you can go.
Yeah. There I thought I went far.
I learned I was wrong. Yeah.
Yeah. And but then he climbed back out
of it and he's an amazing. Human being.
Yes, he's a shining example of how recovery works.
If once you get to the point in your life and you need that, the

(17:12):
recovery kind of, you know, I don't know, chimes in or you
know, the bell rings or whatever.
I don't know what the fuck I'm trying to say, but kind of like
Mike that. Don't make sense.
Yeah, kind of like Mike Larose, right?
I mean, yeah. How many people, you know,
smoked pot when they were six and still live?
The tell. The tell.
There too, yeah. Right.
So and then we had we had Cheyenne on who was kidnapped 3

(17:36):
different times. We've had Kelly Myers of of a
show coming up that you're goingto hear once before this one
airs. It's a musician who's who's
ahead of his time. Kind of like how large was as
far as Napster ahead of his timefrom the coaching facet.
By about 25 years. Yeah, So we don't just have, you
know, Bob from next door coming on the show.

(17:58):
We love Bob. Bob can come on the show all he
wants, right? We had an Iraqi war veteran who?
That show did really well too. Yeah, his whole, his whole, his
whole gig was finding IE D's in,in Iraq.
And then his his story is really, really cool as far as
how he was able to stop drinkingin, in the path he took to do
that. And, and Mike and him had a

(18:19):
great conversation about magic mushrooms that they have to call
it. I like Don, he's my people.
Yeah, Don's a good guy, man. So, yeah.
So if you want to be the show, just drop us a message.
We'll get you on. And then, you know, there you
go. You can have a conversation with
us and we share all your shorts that we come up with.
So you have them. You can use them on your own.
You can put them on all your social media channels.

(18:40):
You know, we've we're continuously growing this thing
organically. We're getting close to 100,000
what views since since March where we were like what, 50 in
March? We were at right around 38.
At 30th February. OK, so there you go.
So yeah. So it's just a short 38,000 and

(19:01):
90,000 and about 3 months. Yeah, which is it's all Mike,
man. It's 'cause you know, he carries
the show. I'm just here for, for window
fodder, you know? I'm window dressing.
I'm still the behind the scenes guy that's you know.
He's he's I'm the Robin quivers to his Howard Stern.
You know, that's just how it rolls.
I think it's funny, man. There's days where I noticed

(19:22):
that one of us is off and the others not, you know?
So it balances out for sure. It does.
And that's the dynamic of havingtwo people on a show because
again, when you just do it by yourself, you don't have that
exchange. You don't have the organic
conversations. And like my little The Real
Estate Guy podcast moment with The Real Estate Guy.
That's great too, by the way. Well, thank you.

(19:43):
But they're quick. They're like, you know, 2
minutes or so, but it's, it's insightful information in a
short amount of time to help youunderstand the home buying or
home selling process, depending on what I'm talking about.
So those drop every Tuesday afternoon on my channel, which,
you know, if you want to find that, just go to YouTube and at
Chris Dunham. Simple.
Check it out. Subscribe.
Chug it out. 3:00 and 4:00, There's legitimately only one

(20:05):
guy that I will listen to, and that's Bill Burr that does it by
himself. Oh agreed, because he can.
He's amazing. He can argue with.
Himself, Dude, I think you have that potential.
You probably, you know, even if I don't know it, you could have
that kind of banner. I'm not that guy, right?
I could argue with myself. It would be pretty engaging.

(20:26):
I had I've, I've done videos, marketing videos where I'm, I'm
talking to myself. I believe it.
Oh, yeah, I've seen them. Yeah.
I'm the one with Santa Claus. Yeah, I'm Santa Claus in the
video, just so you know. You know, this is an over 18
podcast. They all, they all know there's.
You never know, man. And then they had one where,

(20:46):
where when I was in council, I had this.
I had we wrote this song called Plastic Icon.
I remember that too. Right, which was all about the
plasticity of the music industry, basically, and how,
how the fake pop, the full, Yeah, exactly.
The full, the beautiful people, right.
So my, what I would do on stage,they'd put on my, my Playboy.

(21:10):
What? It was a Hugh Hefner costume for
Halloween. So it's his red smoking jacket.
My, my fake hair and sunglasses.And and I was the I was the
plastic icon. So that persona, I made a video
one time like it when if you'd send me a referral, I used to
pop it up on your Facebook page where I'm talking to myself in

(21:31):
the plastic icon identity, goingback and forth with myself.
You know, which is funny becauseI've always you ever.
You remember the movie The Big? Chill.
Oh yeah, that's a great movie. Man right, one of my all time
favorites right? I love the the scene.
Will William Hurt is sitting on the couch.

(21:53):
He found the camcorder, right? So he's going around the house
filming people. And if you've never seen The Big
Chill, you need to see The Big Chill just for the soundtrack
alone. That opened me up to so much
music. Just the soundtrack.
Oh, for sure. Man, just unbelievable.
But he's sitting on the couch and he's got the camera on a
tripod and he's and he's filminghimself having a conversation

(22:13):
with himself. It was, it was it was a great
scene. And he pulled it off and it was
just, it was it's a great movie.Nikki hates the movie.
I love it. The true, true story.
The body, the corpse at the beginning.
Yeah. Kevin Costner's first role.
And he got cut out. That was his first role.

(22:37):
And he was, he was the, he was the corpse.
And they didn't pan up to his face.
They stopped. I did not know that.
You got to start somewhere. Did you hear that?
They're supposedly making young guns dead or alive?
Young guns 3 dead or alive. No.
Yeah. Yeah.
They better do injustice becauseit's Emilio Estevez.

(23:02):
And because he is who he is. And if you don't, if you, if
you, if you never follow Emilio because he hasn't been relevant
for years. But brilliant young mind he had
he had so many movies in the 80sthat just were were very
entertaining and just I enjoyed them.
One of my favorite movies he ever.

(23:22):
Did I loved young guns? And young guns too, I thought.
That was that was in the 90s, but I'm talking like back in the
80s, That was then. This is now repo man, Men At
Work, Men At Work, he wrote. And Charlie Sheen's was his, is
his actual biological brother. And for those who don't know,
Estevez is their actual legal name.
So it's Martin Estevez, not Martin Sheen.
But Martin made his last name Sheen.

(23:44):
So when Charlie got in the business instead of Charlie
Estevez, he's Charlie Sheen. And Emilio was the only one that
actually kept his, his legitimate birth name, which I
thought was interesting. So that's the Estevez family,
Martin, Charlie and and Emilio. Speaking of Charlie, I saw
something like two or three daysago, somebody caught Charlie

(24:07):
outside something. He was just fucking hammered and
he just came into the car. Yeah, came into the window of
the car, was talking to the people, pounding fists and
giving a high fives. And you know, it's like his
shirt's like half ripped and theguy's like, what's that?
Oh, it's too bad. You know, like some weird, I
don't know what it was an elephant or something.
I just, it was, you know, it waskind of funny 'cause, you know,

(24:31):
Charlie got destroyed with the whole me too thing.
Rightfully so, 'cause, you know,he didn't behave himself.
But what are you gonna do? He's also tied.
Remember the Corey Feldman, right?
Yeah. Corey Feldman claims that CC
Sheen raped Corey Haim on set inone of the movies they were
doing. I do remember that and I just I

(24:54):
still, I still call Bush on thatbecause you would think that
that if Corey Haim was being raped, he'd be screaming,
fighting and struggling. I mean, I don't know.
I, I don't, nothing surprises meanymore.
It comes out of out of Hollywoodand and, you know, especially
with the Diddy stuff. What what what was his face?
Suge Knight testified or something.

(25:14):
And I didn't read the article, but apparently it was all tied
to what did you did to Bieber, Justin Bieber, and how he just
fucking absolutely, you know, destroyed him.
You know, all the things he did to having Bieber's claiming, you
know, parents could give a shit because they wanted the money,
which is sad. Yeah, that's it.
If, if people don't know that story, that is a sad story.

(25:37):
It really is. Yeah, and that's the problem, I
think with a lot of the young, the young stars and whatnot,
that it's the parents that want them to be famous.
The kids don't have a say. They're just, you know, they're,
they're too impressionable and and not all have to make those
decisions. And they're just kind of OK.
Mom and Dad. I want to be the movie.

(25:58):
Yeah. You know.
Mama Kay's worried she's interrupting the podcast.
That's what's going on here, ladies and gentlemen.
She was going to bring me some food.
So if I seem distracted, I'm not.
I'm listening to Chris. But we'll give Mama Kay a shout
out for making some amazing spaghetti, and I will be having
that tomorrow. I had leftover jobs for tonight
so. Right.

(26:18):
Did you know spaghetti is not a whole food?
No, but it is delicious when Mama Kay makes it so.
Is it the sauce? As long as she's walking the
planet, I'm going to eat her spaghetti.
Well, that's fine. Is it the sauce?
I don't. Or did she make the noodles from
scratch? Did she make the noodles from
scratch? No.
No. OK, OK, we'll have.

(26:39):
To then it's got to be it's got to be this.
It's got to be the sauce. Then we got to have Mama Kay on.
Just tell her to come over. It's it's made with love.
Oh, that'll take some coaxing. I think we could get steel on
here. He'll come.
Yeah. We need to get steel on.
We got to get him to tell his paranormal stories.
He's got some great ones. Cool, that's another thing.
I was going to say Bigfoot, but yeah, for sure, if there's

(27:02):
paranormal people out there and you have stories.
We'll listen to them for sure. Ghost stories?
Absolutely. Yeah, he has multiple.
He's had not a Bigfoot sighting,but a brush with OK and
definitely ghosts, UFO. And this is a guy who has no
reason. I mean, he's a common sense, no

(27:23):
nonsense. You know, he's not somebody
that's looking for attention. He's the antithesis of looking
for attention. Yeah, and just so you know,
steals Mike's dad. That's his nickname, yes.
Yeah, self-imposed. Yeah.
Yeah. He had to come up with an e-mail
address and it got shortened to that.
That's all that happened, really.
Yeah. We won't give out.

(27:44):
We won't give out his e-mail address on the podcast, but I'll
tell you later. Well, his phone number is
867-5309 and and just use the the three O 9 prefix, you know,
so 309-867-5309. If you want to give Steele a
call, tell him we said hi. He'll be happy to talk to you.
I should give people his actual phone number because he would

(28:05):
educate the world and the world would be a better place.
Well, you know, so that wasn't areal number I just gave of.
Course it was. Damn it.
So we were talking before the show.
You had something What we we were doing some enlightening
with each other. Oh, I'm glad there was
something. There was something you wanted

(28:26):
to tell me that that I told you about Kellogg's cereal.
Oh yeah, thank. You yes, while you're looking at
the Kellogg's cereal thing, we, we learned how to, we learned
how to dehydrate strawberries. So because, because we kind of
stopped all the sugar in things,right?
Strawberries have natural sugar.So I sliced them all up and I'm
terrible at slicing. So we're going to figure out a

(28:47):
better way to slice and then they can put them in the air
fryer because we have a dehydration setting and we
actually made legit strawberry fruit snacks that are that's
just strawberry. That's it.
Nothing else. And they actually pretty damn
tasty aside from my failure to cut properly because, you know,

(29:09):
I'm terrible at cutting. Like if I was on the Worst Cooks
in America they would have a whole episode on my cutting
skills and how they suck. So I'm glad that I I'm glad I.
Looked it up. OK, good.
It says the claim that Kellogg'scereal was invented to prevent
masturbation is a common misconception.

(29:29):
John John Harvey Kellogg, the inventor of cornflakes, was 1/7
day Adventist minister who believed in a healthy lifestyle
and included a vegetarian diet and abstinence from sexual
activity. He advocated for a bland,
unstimulating diet to reduce. OK, they're double talking now

(29:50):
let me read. Let me read this again.
So they're saying that it's a common misconception.
Now listen to what I'm going to say.
John Harvey Kellogg, the inventor of cornflakes, was the
7th Day Adventist minister who believed in a healthy lifestyle
that included a vegetarian diet and abstinence from sexual
activity. Why you're married or before
you're married? Because why you're married?
If you want abstinence, that's ashitty ass marriage.

(30:10):
Man, no. So the 7th Day Adventist would
say that you can only have sex to procreate.
Get the hell out of here. You got to remember I studied a
lot of religions, my brother. Why I That's insane.
That's their Yeah. Well, that's a hardcore version.
Of Christianity. So I think that's what Scott
Stapp's family is because 'causewhen his dad, when one of his

(30:32):
interviews with his dad, his dadhad this massive crucifix on his
hanging off his chest and he waslike a total, just came across
as a total control freaking asshole.
I'm like, whoa. But I bet you that is.
So what I'm saying that they're double talking is the last
sentence is he advocated for a bland, unstimulating diet to
reduce sexual desire, including masturbation.

(30:54):
Those are his words. Weird.
So if so, boys and girls are actually boys.
If you have a problem with with you know if you fail the, if
you, if you join the Seinfeld regime, if you understand where
this is going, if, if you have acontest and for being master of
your domain, apparently, just buy cornflakes from Kellogg's
and you will win. Yeah.

(31:18):
Wow, that's wow. I think there's some double talk
in there because he's the one that said he and he invented the
cornflakes because they were bland and he advocated for a
bland diet to ward off. The.
Sexuality, including masturbation.
That's what it says. So there was a movie and which,

(31:42):
excuse me, I think Anthony Anthony Hopkins, Sir Anthony
Hopkins played Kellogg in the movie.
I forget I'm seeing it in my head because they're talking
about cereal. Let's just Google machine
Anthony Hopkins. Whoops, spell it right.
The Google Machine. Hopkins, Kellogg.
There it is. Kellogg movie.
It came up right away. It plays Kellogg, yes.

(32:04):
The road to Wellville. There you go.
The road to Wellville. Never saw it.
OK, it's a good it's a good movie.
The road to well. The road to Wellville is a 1993
novel by American author TC Boyle, set in Battle Creek, MI,
not far from your dispensary during the early days of
breakfast cereals. The story includes a historical

(32:28):
fictionalization of John Harvey Kellogg, who the inventor of
cornflakes, Anthony Hopkins plays him British known actor in
the 1994 film The Road to. Well, it's a really good film.
I, I, I, I watched it so much. I mean, obviously it left
something because I just pulled that out of my arse that oh,

(32:49):
this is where Anthony Hopkins played the Kellogg guy.
I don't completely remember whatit's about, but it is, it is
kind of wrapped around him, the Kellogg dude and, and that kind
of jazz. So this here's an unbelievable
fact, OK, an unbelievable fact. Just so you know, boys and

(33:10):
girls, in November 2022, James Michael Grimes won a free drink
in the air guitar competition. Now I have posted before air
guitar competition that was legit thing on the ESPN the Ocho
where these guys were actually if you if you if you go down the
path of my my Instagram, you'll see a story where I I actually
Nikki and I where were we were we were on a cruise and then and

(33:32):
that late night TV came on and and legit it was it was air
guitar competition, kid, you nottold.
Me this and I was in disbelief. Right, so So in November of
2022, James Michael Grimes won afree drink in an air guitar
competition, which became his last memory before walking up.
Waking up overboard in the Gulf of Mexico with no ship insight,
he then shredded water for 18 hours and was stung by two

(33:55):
swarms of jellyfish over his arms and legs before eventually
being rescued. Isn't that crazy?
That is a crazy fact. Weird wild, weird wild fact.
I love that Facebook page, by the way.
That's where I get a lot of thisshit.
What's? What's that Facebook page share
with the world? Isn't it on the?
I don't know, I closed the window already.
I was pretending like I just knew that from from knowing it.

(34:16):
I wish. We should give those people a
shout out. That's why I take screenshots
of. Them.
Whatever, I lost it. Now there's thousands of these
things. It's OK.
One in ten Americans think the Earth is flat.
OK, so funny story. I showed little man.
That's all I gotta do. I showed little man the there's

(34:36):
a picture right, of the ice wall.
There's this massive ice wall which would be in the North
Pole, Antarctica, right? But the way the picture came
across was you you saw this ice wall and then the all the ocean
was dark black and then you had the land on the other side of
it. Little man legit said, oh,
that's why the earth is slap poppop.

(34:57):
I'm like no, no, So something I googled the earth and I reminded
him it was around because he's he's in the planets and stuff.
But. The one I just sent to you is
for you only. There's too much shit on there.
But the one I'm sending you right now?
Read that one OK still. Very interesting so here you go.
So a study shows less age-related cognitive decline in

(35:20):
cannabis usage. So, a newly published study.
From the National Library. National Library.
Library of medicine, it's not mea Stoner.
No, it's right, right. It's a National Center for Bio
Technology Information and a newstudy was published just found
that men who used cannabis experienced less age-related

(35:41):
cognitive decline than those whodid not. 5162 men were studied
for an average of 24 years, and neither frequency of use nor age
initiation were significantly associated with the great, with
a greater decline. So it does not burn your brain
cells like they tried to tell you on afternoon television.
And, you know, everywhere, there's so much.

(36:03):
And a lot of that I think is still is still pharmacy.
Pharmaceutical companies don't want marijuana to become
something that people go to as asource of remedying their
anxiety. And here's.
How I'll prove it to you in yourgreat state of Arizona.
They tried to make recreational marijuana the first time, if
you'll remember right, in 2016. OK.

(36:24):
The same company that makes fentanyl spent $500,000 on
advertising against making. Yes, I'm just proving your
point. Oh yeah, there's I, I, I
remember them prove that. I remember Arizona trying to
pass that and it failed the first couple times it was on the
ballot just. You know who else funds those?

(36:48):
No. Big alcohol, so Budweiser Coors.
Which doesn't make sense cause 'cause you know, I mean, the,
the, for those of you that, thathave smoked cigarettes and, and
drink beer, it, there's a hand to hand thing.
Like, I can't remember, you know, years and years ago when I
was still drinking and we'd go out and, and, you know, it was
one of those things like you have a couple beers, you just,

(37:08):
you want a cigarette. And I wasn't a big smoker, but
it's just one of those things, hey, you got you, Hey, you got
one of those, you know, 'cause it just, it elevates it somehow,
right? It's just, yes, it's kind of
like the yin and Yang of it, youknow?
Yeah, well, nicotine stimulates your brain for sure.
That's also scientific fact. It's not good for you in mass
quantities. But in little short, don't like

(37:30):
in your case, if you hit a cigarette before you went on
stage, what you did a lot, it started your synapse is firing
like 10 times faster, 100 times faster, right?
Yeah, that was more just to calmthe.
I mean, I wasn't nervous and that wasn't it was it was
anxious energy and I was one of those things just like.

(37:50):
Yeah, I used to describe it as an adrenaline dump.
So like, if anybody's ever been super scared, super quick, Yeah,
that's what it sounds like. Only it lasts a lot longer than
that, you know? Yeah, your legs start shaking.
That's one thing we didn't ask Lemoyne about about his
experience would like like when I talked to Michael Bruce on

(38:10):
good news Arizona, we we touchedwe touched on him playing live
and like he stood in front of when Michael Bruce you know
don't for those of you don't know is one of the founding
members of the Alice Cooper group.
Great guitar. Great guitar and super nice
human too. I watched that episode.
Yeah, that was a nice one. Interview.
Yeah, thank you. And he the the man of people
that he played in front of was astonishing.

(38:32):
And one, I forget the number butit was an insane number.
Probably over 100,000 for. Sure.
Yeah. I want to say like 230 some odd
1000. Alice played some big.
Festivals in Europe yeah yeah, and it so that was one thing I
didn't think about to after the fact with Lemoyne.
Like I wonder how many what's his biggest thing as far as
being in front of But that may have been a a moot point because

(38:52):
most of his career has been behind as a.
Producer and. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Beat Maker and. Still, yeah, so and, and I would
like to talk to him again and just kind of dive deeper into
the, the connections that he's made.
Like especially we didn't, we didn't really go down the path
of, of, of working with Queen, you know, and, and the insurance
and outs of that. And how was, you know, meeting

(39:12):
Brian May And, and you know whatI mean?
Cause Brian May's got to be justan amazing human to talk to you.
He's an astrophysicist. I know.
That's why it'd be amazing to talk to.
It's like, dude, you, you went from this to that, Like I mean.
I follow him on Instagram and he's so mellow, man.
He's just. Like I could see that he's.
Just like kind of you would imagine he's very soft spoken
and very humble. Very thankful for his lot in

(39:35):
life. As far as you know what he's
got, you know, not a bragger at all.
Just. No.
Well, that's that was what what cool was that was you.
That's what was cool about Lemoyne.
He wasn't dumb. No, he was very humble as well.
Yeah, very, very humble. I told you the one thing if you
don't pick up on it when that episode drops, ladies and
gentlemen, he was very honest about, you know, if I wrote a

(39:58):
song that ended up on Bohemian Rhapsody soundtrack, I'd just go
ahead and make it act like it was in the movie, you know?
Right, but he was clear to pointout, you know it got.
Caught from the movie, but it's still on the soundtrack, which
got downloaded millions of times.
And his version of Killer Queen is very good.
I checked that out too because you can get that online as well
if everybody wants to go listen to that.

(40:20):
OK, so I found, I found Brian May.
Brian May Formal. Is that what it is, Sir?
Brian May? Yeah, it's got to be 3.9 million
followers. That's him.
Is that the legit one? Yeah.
Yeah, right on. He dropped some really cool
stuff. Yeah, no, that's a good.
That's good, man. I like, I like that kind of
stuff. And if you can happen to book

(40:42):
him on the podcast that. Would be I'll try.
Let me send him a message right now.
Reach out. I am this is Chris from the
Chris and Mike show. There it is here we go.
Good afternoon, Sir Brian, because he says Sir Brian.
So you got to use his his his professional name.
He's knighted. Yes, that's what you got.

(41:02):
I I have, I said say tell him I have a one square foot of land
in Scotland. Of course, OK.
Of course, reaching out to you because we would love to have
you on the guest on the Chris and Mike Show.
That's where Dave lives on that one square foot.
A world renowned podcast that isall about human interest
stories. Such as your own.

(41:24):
We would love to dive deep into her.
Aeronautical physicist. Is that what he is?
He's an astrophysicist. We'd love to dive deep into you.
Dive deep, dive, dive deep, deepinto your level of
astrophysicism. Is that a word?
Physicism. I don't know.

(41:46):
Astrophysical, we'll just say astrophysics sounded good and
anything and anything else you would like to discuss perhaps
what you've done with your life since obtaining that degree.
We heard you play a little guitar.
Please reach out at your earliest convenience.
We would love to establish a time to connect with you.

(42:10):
From what our friend Lemoyne Alexander says, you are a super
nice human and we'd love to verify that talk.
Soon. I thought you were Chris.
I thought you were going to dropmy name.
I did. Chris, Chris, Chris is in there.
Mike's in there. No, I just.
Met with you in Le Moines place,you know.
I could do. That I was No, I was just being

(42:31):
funny. With you.
OK, from one of one of our friends, Le Moyne Alexander says
you are a super nice human. Here we go right here.
This is the power of editing, asdoes Mike Michaels.
I have been founding member of Nemesis.

(42:52):
That might be one of those messages that's just crazy
enough to get answered. That's how I got Kevin Guy on
the Good News Arizona show, man.I kept poking at him.
I kept, I kept dropping messagesand shit.
For those you don't know, Kevin Guy is the head coach and
general manager of the Arizona Rattlers, Arizona's most
successful sporting franchise with seven world champions.
And just so you understand, right, the Suns have zero, the

(43:16):
Cardinals have 0 because Larry Fitzgerald failed to take a knee
at the three yard line. The Mercury, which can't really
count, I think they have four orfive, but they're girls.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Don't light us up. But if, hey, if you're an WNBA
player and you'd like to defend your sport, reach out.
We'll have you on. Especially if you're Caitlin

(43:36):
Clark. Right.
She seems to be kind of popular.She said she's very popular.
Let's see. I also do not watch the WNBA so
that's. I've heard, I've heard, and I
don't know if this is true or not.
So viewers listening, watching if you've, if you're a fan of
subscriber, a season ticket holder of the, of the WNBA, I've

(43:57):
heard that part of the enjoymentof watching the games is
watching the athletes fall. Like they're not like men where
they run back and forth non-stopand don't ever fall over just
for the hell of it. I've heard that some of the, you
know, call it the women, not college.
The, the, the, the athletes in WNBA, they just randomly fall.

(44:20):
You know, they'll just randomly fall when they're running.
And apparently some people thinkthat's the main draw of watching
them play live is to see how many times the athletes will
just stumble and fall. OK, one thing I will tell you,
and I wish I could give this person credit because that just
triggered a memory. Speaking of shorts, Chris said
how powerful shorts are because we all have a busy schedule,

(44:40):
right? I watched a short on the Caitlin
Clark effect and it said you don't think that the WNBA sucked
before Caitlin Clark? Let me show you.
And it was 30 seconds or a minute of up and down the court,
and nobody made a basket. It was brick, brick, brick,
brick, brick, brick, brick. Caitlin Clark comes and all of a

(45:02):
sudden they're playing more likethe men.
They're running Phillies, yes. It was.
It's a. Completely different game It,
it's an effect just like MichaelJordan was to the NBA, right?
So it's that next level of female athleticism.
Right. OK, so, so here's a question.
Would the WNBA then be more entertaining now than the NBA?

(45:25):
Because we all know the NBA is about not driving to the lane
anymore. If you get about, if you get
about 10 more players like her in that league, 100% really,
maybe even 5. OK.
Just enough to make the other people around them become that
much better, right? Yeah, just like I always
fascinate people when I say I like to be the weakest link in

(45:47):
the band, right? How am I going to get better if
I'm the best person in my own band, Right, Right, right.
I need people that are like, hey, man, you know, why don't
you try this here or that there?You know, I'm looking for
forward thinkers, not people whoare looking for me to direct
that, right? That's the effect she's had on
women's basketball is you guys got it or you ladies have to
step up your game. That's interesting.

(46:10):
Same thing Ronda Rousey did for the mixed martial arts, right in
the UFC. Yeah, yeah, cuz really she's, I
mean, I don't remember anybody female wise before her that put
females on the map for that in that sport.
There was Cyborg, but she was sosteroid it out at that time that
she looked like a dude. Nobody paid attention to her.
You know, she probably could have kicked a lot of men's

(46:31):
asses. Right.
I think I that's what I'm saying.
I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't even recognize that name.
Like Round Rossi. They might.
They might remember Gina Carano.I think she was before Ronda a
little bit. But yeah, Ronda Rousey became
the face of women's MMA, right? Caitlin became the face of the
WNBA. Michael Jordan became the face

(46:52):
of the NBA in my generation and your generation.
Right. And he's still, he's still
talked about to this day. And he and he forever will be.
Yeah, he's not for sure. That's The funny thing about the
GOAT talk, right in people. Somebody who says if I wanted to
have better stats, I would have tried harder.
I was trying to win championships, right?

(47:13):
Yeah, we were trying to play as a team, is what he's saying.
Yeah. Right.
And in playing as a team, he still put the numbers up that he
did. Just staggering.
I saw, I saw a thing the other day that LeBron was at the free
throw line. He hits the ball, he hits the,
the and that's it. He wins the game and he missed.

(47:37):
He just like Jordan. Jordan, if you never, I mean,
everybody's probably heard the story.
I, I don't think it was a playoff game.
I think it was just a regular season game.
But he was, you know, he looked at somebody that was on the, the
line, you know, the box and the free throw and, and he's, he's,
he's bouncing, bouncing about and he looks over the guys.
He closes his eyes. Check it out.

(47:58):
You could probably argue 100 other people with me, not you in
particular, but the people who are listening who are going to
scream at me. But what about?
I don't think I've ever witnessed somebody who wanted
that pressure at the end of a game more than Michael Jordan,
other than maybe Tom. Agreed.
Agreed. Yeah, yeah, I, I would, I, I

(48:20):
think Eli because Eli, Eli, Eli,Eli excelled.
In, but he just didn't have highpressure.
Longevity of No I'm. Talking about people who did it,
you know, 6 * 7 times. I know there's not a lot of
them, but let's say more than three times.
Yeah, OK. Somebody that's that great.
I can't think of anybody who just soaked that.

(48:40):
Like, give me the ball right now.
I know there's one second left. I'm going to be the one to shoot
it, right? From A and from a baseball
standpoint point, you'd have pitchers that give me the ball.
Sure. You know Maddox and Johnson are
Schilling. You know Rodger Clemens before
steroids. That whole thing between Curt
Schilling and Randy Johnson whenthe Arizona Diamondbacks won the

(49:01):
World Series that year, that determination to go out there on
2 days rest or a day's rest, That was proven you were a man.
Well, I'd see back in the day, right when right, But back when
baseball was baseball, right, you didn't have seven days rest
you. You would pitch, you would throw
150 pitches and then pitch the next day.

(49:23):
Well I mean modern day is like four or five, but you're right,
it was usually AI. Think a three day rotation.
Something something small and you didn't have the Tommy John
surgeries and all the bullshit you have now because it just
it's kind of like you over trainnow we're in from from from an
athletic standpoint. Is there such thing as too much

(49:43):
training? And that's something I'm hearing
a lot about just recently on thefitness people that come on the
different podcast that I listen to is they found out, as you
just said, that recovery time isalmost more important than the
workout itself, right? Yes, yes, yes, yes.
You you found that out as well. Yeah, you can get at least.

(50:05):
Stronger by letting yourself rest.
Yeah, like our friend Alicia Shields, she did her first half
marathon. Congratulations.
I asked. Yeah, I asked her what her time
was. She didn't have it yet.
She's waiting for the official time.
But then I gave her the rundown of of this is because it's your
first one, you know, go find a place that has has you can you
can compress your legs. And if you know what that is,
you'd be basically pull yourselfup and what would lack a better

(50:28):
term overalls just for your legs.
And. And they squeeze them and it
helps the blood flow and it helps circulate the blood
through a flout your entire ankle to hip, which helps your
legs recovery. And then you go into a cryo
chamber and stand there for a minute, freeze your ass off, and
then you go into a sauna for 20 minutes and it's a whole cycle
of of recovery. That works great.

(50:50):
So you do the cryo. I have done it.
I haven't done it in a while, but but I have done it before.
I've done it several times. It's.
Have you ever done a float tank?No float tanks freak me out just
because how you look at them. It's it's kind of like you.
I don't. I'm claustrophobic.
I think I'm positive I'm claustrophobic.
Yeah, so I could. Do that.
No, no, I I like the I think theidea of it's cool because it's

(51:13):
it has, it is supposed to pull, you know, impurities out of your
body and shit while you're floating.
But the other, well, the. Big thing is, is it separates
you from the Earth. It's the only time that you're
weightless on Earth. Yeah, because you're laying in
that 1000 lbs of salt or whatever, right?
So you're actually, you're not submerged, you're kind of half

(51:34):
in and half out. You're floating.
So you don't feel your body, theweight of your body anymore,
which allows your mind to expand.
And that's the way it was described to me hundreds of
times on these different shows. I just, I don't think I could do
it unless it was like an open one right where you're not
closing it like I put some blackgoggles on or something.

(51:55):
And. I know and I don't.
Closed in there. Yeah, and my other thing with it
too is, is do they change the salt every time?
In the ones that you go to, the salt kills all the there's no
bacteria is going to live in that salt.
That's why they call it the DeadSea, my friend.
Oh. Nothing can live there, so.

(52:16):
Yeah, but you're still, but you're still laying on somebody
else's salt. They do have regulations.
You know, all those places that you would go to in a big city
are regulated by the health department.
So if they if they care about their business, you're not
laying in anybody's filth. Well, that's kind of like dirty
dining though, right? You don't get caught until they
come inspect your restaurant. So you you're for a week or two

(52:39):
leading up to the inspection. Yeah, but just like if we were
shitty podcast hosts, how many more guests would we have if we
didn't have this? True.
You know what I'm saying? Reputation is everything.
I agree with what you're saying.Yeah, yeah, You don't have to
agree. You can be like, fuck off,
Chris. That's wrong.
No wrong man. There is nobody that's more.
I mean, I'm not like Howie Mandel, germ freak, but you know
me. I like that clean and organized.

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Oh, me too. Nothing can live in that salt,
man. Jake had taken 1000 lbs of salt.
Yeah, well, Speaking of clean and organized, Jake sent us a
picture today that I won't sharebecause I don't know if I'm
allowed to share it, but he's holding this grenade launcher.
But what struck me that But whatstruck me, I told him that's a
great Father's Day present. What struck me was the

(53:20):
background and so in the background of it, it was
shelving with and and I'm kid you not everything was perfectly
lined up like you want to talk about like OCD.
It was they're all they're all exactly.
If it just lined up perfectly and the tags were the tags were

(53:42):
perfectly dangling on each piecelike it was supposed to be it
just all. And because what he does is he's
in charge of recruits when they come into Pendleton.
So I'm sure this is something where he's his little office and
what he checks out and things like that.
But it legit, dude. It was just like.
I had somebody that RH come in here one time and say this is

(54:05):
like sleeping with the enemy. You remember that movie where
she opened up the cabinets and everything was facing?
I said, isn't it easier when it looks that way?
I'm not a psychopath. I just want to know what I'm
looking at when I open my cupboard, right?
Why would I turn everything backwards?
So yeah, of course I face everything forward, apparently.
That's weird. I do the same thing in my

(54:26):
refrigerator. Really.
Yeah, my clothes in my closet are hung by the day.
I'm going to wear. Yeah, some of this shit's a.
Little mine Mine are hung by color, so I have I.
Do that on my good clothes. My work clothes are hung by the
day. I'm going to wear them in the
order I'm going to wear them, OK?
That's cool. Yeah, mine are hung by color.
Only because we wear red on Wednesday, so I put that in spot

(54:47):
#3 so I have to think about whatI'm doing at 4:45 in the
morning. Yeah, that's kind of one of the
things that Nikki tries to do because that's her biggest
struggle every day when when she's teaching is like what I'm
like, where to work. So every now and then she'll
she'll plan on her outfits. And then that that #1 takes the
anxiety of choosing what I'm going to wear today off her
plate. And then she has more time to

(55:08):
play her whatever iPad game she googled she plays on and in the
mornings and you know. But I do do with my good clothes
what you do as well. They're by collared shirts,
colored. They're by T-shirts colored.
They're. Right, for sure.
Yeah. I think I own 2 collared short
sleeve shirts, 1 of what she just bought me.

(55:28):
I actually have quite a few. I had to go to a couple weddings
and my mom bought me a couple. And for a guy who never wears A
collared shirt, I actually probably have seven of them now.
No, none. I have suits and stuff because
you know, like. I do not own a suit or a tie,
and if I never have to wear one again, I will die a happy man.
I don't. I had one custom made years ago

(55:48):
that actually on the inside of it, which I didn't realize at
the time. The little tiny scorpions Jay
calls of the scorpion suit threepiece suit vest everything
custom tailored Italian shoes look pretty fly for a white guy
in you look good. Dressed up, I just, that's not
my thing, man. And I'm sure you know now Mama
Kay's screaming at the podcast. You look great when you're
dressed up. All parents got to say that,

(56:12):
man. It's I just feel so unlike do
you feel comfortable that way it?
Depends on the scenario. So yes, if I'm, if I'm, if.
I'm not ever. Yeah, like if I'm like back in
the day when $1,000,000 houses were not a dime a dozen in the
Valley, you know, when the average sales price was was 320
four, 324,000 and I'd have randomly somebody we're looking

(56:34):
to, you know, we'll look at $1,000,000 homes, which there's
probably 10 then yeah, I would, I would be comfortable in the
suit because I was, I was putting my best foot forward
because I knew this person was spending the amount of money
they were spending. So the confidence you have
depends on why you're doing it, right.
So if I'm going to a, a wedding,yeah, you know, it's cool.

(56:56):
I I'll wear, I won't wear the custom one.
You're just a casual one, right,Because you just got to blend in
and be comfortable. I don't like the restriction
that the jackets have on you. You know, that's fuck, I don't
know, that's not comfortable. But it just it's, it's depends
on the situation. You know, if I'm, if I have to
wear a suit for something because they require a suit,

(57:17):
then no, I'm like, yeah, this fucking sucks.
But if I'm wearing it because I want to, you know, look like
James Bond and and Nikki's dressing up, you know, to look
like her sexy ass and yeah, I'll, you know, I'll bust out a
suit. I wore a suit for Scottish
wedding. Well, of course it's your
daughter, I mean. But I could.
It was in our backyard, man. I could've worn jeans and boots.
Yeah. Well, that's not your style and

(57:39):
that's what I'm saying. That's where you and I are
different. You know, you would expect.
I don't know. I just, you know me better than
everybody else does, and that's just not me, right?
No, yeah. I always tell people, Hugh
Hefner had the world figured out, right?
He was surrounded by beautiful women in his pajamas.
Yeah. With all the money in the world.
Yeah, something about that something, somebody, whoever

(58:01):
bought that they're, they apparently renovated the whole
thing. I don't know if that's true or
not, but one of the things I sawon the Internet, which you know,
who knows? It's probably true because I'm
pretty sure it was up for sale the last season of $1,000,000
listing Los Angeles. It hadn't moved yet, but if
you've seen something recently, I'm sure I'm sure that's true.
Yeah, there's just a random thing.

(58:22):
I saw something too about Michael Jackson Neverland, but
that's been that was bought and completely revamped.
You know all that kind of jazz. Put up Mcmansions.
Yeah, yeah. That's what they called them
back in the day. So I think it was you that sent
me the thing. There's more dispensaries in the
country now than there is McDonald's.
Ladies and gentlemen, public service announcement.

(58:43):
There are currently more pot dispensaries in the United
States than there are McDonald's.
We now resume our regularly scheduled program.
And, and The funny thing about that is McDonald's is so bad for
you. So, so bad for you.
And marijuana has never killed anyone.
McDonald's has killed a lot of people on their day.
Yeah, because there's people that have lived strictly on

(59:05):
McDonald's and died. Yes.
Because there's no nutrition. No and then that one guy there
was that there was that taste good.
I forget I forget his name, but he was a documentarian that he
had. He did a movie called super size
me. What AI remember that?
What a revealing movie that was,because if you've never seen it.

(59:26):
That early 2. Thousands, maybe.
Some had to be. But he started, he started with
his baseline of all his health, right?
Like here's here's the stuff, here's his blood pressure,
here's his heart rate, here's all his blood levels.
Like, so you had legitimately, this is his starting point.
And then he went through the entire thing of eating
McDonald's for X amount of time and that was it.

(59:49):
Like nothing else, just McDonald's every single day, I
want to say for six months or something.
And the dude put on weight. His health went just down the
drain. His blood work went just wacky.
Just mind boggling what what he was able to show the world by
just having a McDonald's only diet not and it kind of similar

(01:00:11):
to what Jared did the pedophile asshole from subway right where
he just ate Subs every day and but he was also walking and what
not too. So he wasn't just eating Subs to
lose the weight. He was doing some physical
activity. I don't think the dude on super
size me and I forget his name, but I don't think he exercised
at all. I think it was.
It was just this is what America's doing.

(01:00:31):
Let's see who he was. Super size me.
Yeah, If I. Remember right, he was just a
straight McDonald's. Guy yeah, Two yeah, 2004.
See early 2000 I remember this movie I.
Morgan Spurlock. That's right.
Morgan Spurlock. OK, so he changed my.
Opinion to McDonald's instantly.Right, right.
So. And he died.
Holy shit. That's what changed my opinion.

(01:00:54):
Spurlock died Thursday in New York from complications of
cancer, according to a statementissued.
But Friday by his family is a sad day.
I said say goodbye to our brother Morgan Craig, who worked
with him on several projects, said in a statement.
Morgan gave so much to art, ideas and generosity and that
was He died May 23rd 2024, so just over a year ago.
How old was he? Does it say?

(01:01:15):
I'm going to find out now. I'm serious.
Well, come on, Morgan. It had it like it all.
That's because I just did. I just did his movie.
That's why it's doing that. OK, let me click on his face
now, OK. November 7th, 8th.
Wow. He was our age.

(01:01:35):
He he was born in 70. Wow.
So he's 54. OK, so the Super size me, why
was it controversial? It explored the fast food
industry's corporate influence, including how it encourages poor
nutrition in its own profit for its own profit and gain.
The film prompted widespread debate about public eating

(01:01:58):
habits and has since come under scrutiny for the accuracy of its
science and truthfulness of Spurlock's on camera claims.
That And I don't get that because he did the movie in the
movie, he legit, he, he doctors care.
Like he started out, you know, this is these are my, my, my

(01:02:21):
levels of everything. And then as it progressed and as
he gained all the weight and shit, it was bad.
You know, he believed his body. This is a quote from him.
He believed his body never fullyrecovered, though.
He lost the weight thanks to a special diet concocted by his
then girlfriend, the vegan chef Alex Jameson.
The pair married and had a son like Laken in 2006 before

(01:02:42):
divorcing in 2011. So he did lose the weight, but
he says that he never, he never actually got over it.
And in March of 2004, six weeks after the debut of Super Size
Me, McDonald's announced a plan to phase out the Super Size Me
option siding. It needs to simplify the menu

(01:03:03):
and to offer healthier food choices, which I don't think
they ever did. They did not, but they did do
away with the Super size me. Right, but, but, but did they
really though? Because I saw something and I'm
I'm meaning to try this. So I saw a real somebody did at
Starbucks. You have 3 levels of Starbucks.
I don't know what they are but it's it's Grande Vente and or

(01:03:23):
there's 3 cups. Yeah, you just mentioned two of
them. I don't know what the third.
One is right, so there's 3 cups.So somebody bought all three of
those, right? And dumped the coffee out of two
of them and then had the coffee in One Cup and poured it in the
second cup and and then poured it in the third cup.
So you saw the different levels of cup.
It was the same amount of coffee.

(01:03:43):
They did that with McDonald's French fries too.
Yeah, it's the same amount. Small and the medium and the
medium and But I call bullshit. I've had a small fry and I've
had a large fry and I've not hadenough small fries and I've had
too many large fries. So fuck them motherfuckers.
Sorry. Ladies and gentlemen, No, but I

(01:04:03):
think it's, it's it's different with liquid though.
And I want to, I want to try it.I just don't want to waste the
money, but it would be. Interesting.
I'm saying though. I do.
You, I know you eat a healthy lifestyle, but you and I have
both eaten our fair share of McDonald's, especially back in
the band days when we were poured and couldn't afford
anything else. Right.
Taco Bell and fucking McDonald'sFilibertos.
See. So it's funny you should say

(01:04:24):
that because Nikki and I, the last two Tuesdays, because we
were doing dance lessons to learn different type of country
dancing and it's done. It's 8:30 at night, which is
weird. 8:30 to 9:00. 30 Not a time you want to start making
dinner. No, so both nights we were done
like fuck, we're hungry, so you know, nothing's open except fast
food. So we succumb to the Filbertos
options last Tuesday and last night.

(01:04:45):
And I got to say I'm having for Belchers for a long fucking
time. That's.
So good. It's one, it's one of those
things like we didn't. We saved it and I'm 2000 miles
away. Right.
We, we went like forever becauseI didn't do dairy forever.
So then all of a sudden I'm like, OK, I can do pizza again.
So we had pizza probably 3 or 4 times and we decided to do this

(01:05:06):
whole, let's get off the bad stuff.
Let's get off the starches and the breads and shit, right?
And then, and so I kind of made a comment when I was like, it's
kind of ironic, right? I'm finally agreeing to eat
dairy, which includes pizza, right?
And then I stopped because we'redoing this, this, you know, no
bad starch thing. So we ended up getting Barrel's
pizza one night. And dude, not having pizza for

(01:05:28):
as long as we, it was the fucking greatest pizza we had.
So I have one. I got another question, but that
leads to OK. Does that not prove that
everything in moderation is probably fine?
Yes. Because you got away from it.
And here's what I hear, like people that go through what
you're going through as far as what works for my diet, the one

(01:05:48):
thing I hear over and over againis if I reintroduce it into my
diet and it causes me grief, I kick it right back out of my
diet, right. So if you had that pizza and you
had an adverse reaction, you would just wouldn't eat pizza
anymore. I know you.
Agreed. But you enjoyed it, so enjoy it
once a month or once every two months, you know, because you

(01:06:08):
know you're going to get that reward and then we're not going
to have it for a while and you're not going to miss it
because you don't want it all the time.
But that was the problem. That was a problem having filled
back to us because then it's just it.
Oh, because you know. I'm glad you said that.
So when you and I were in the band and that was the only thing
we could afford, you got the biggest burrito.
You. It was like the size of your

(01:06:29):
head for $2.00. How much are they now?
I don't know, because I always my always my staple up for
baritos has always been two shredded beef tacos with sour
cream. I didn't do sour cream anymore,
but two shredded beef tacos, shredded beef tacos.
How much was your a large quesadilla.
What I did, what we did last night was.
I'm just curious how. Many I know, I know.
It was, it was, it was, it was $28.00 for three shredded beef

(01:06:51):
tacos, a cheese quesadilla, and then just a flour tortilla for
Nikki. So she had one Taco and a flour
tortilla. It was 28 bucks 28.
Bucks in comparison. Yeah.
Yeah, we used to get a burrito the size of your head for $2.00.
Yeah, yeah, it was amazing. So, but it and it's the nice
about thing about that is because normally when we would

(01:07:17):
do something like that, we've been doing right.
Then you'd come home, we would have bread, we would have
sandwich meat, you know, processed sandwich meat, right?
Sure. So we would just make a sandwich
or we'd just, you know, do whatever.
Hello, hello, hello, hello. I got to get new headphones.
Oh, you can't hear me again, ladies and gentlemen.
I can hear you. I can hear I moved it.
I'm moving and I'm not moving, which is weird.

(01:07:39):
Like, why does it do that, man? Just stay still.
Just order a pair of these, they'll be there in like 2 hours
because you've lived 10 minutes from the Amazon warehouse
apparently. Dude there's like 5 warehouses
near me now as we drive around because they're popping up
everywhere. I told you that was a craziest
thing I had ever seen. I've been an Amazon Prime
customer for, what, going on three years now?
And that was the first time it ever asked me what time would

(01:08:00):
you like it delivered, Sir? Yeah.
Yeah, it's. Like what time?
Usually they're like it'll be two days or less, you know?
I wonder if they'll do the dronething where you like somebody
posted yesterday on Facebook. They had somebody I know, so I
know it wasn't bullshit. They grub hubbed and and it was
this red robot that actually brought the food to their door.

(01:08:20):
So I just read a thing that theyare also on the bandwagon of the
humanoid robot delivery. So I told you about the assembly
line in South Carolina. Amazon is supposed to have the
first Test humanoid Droid delivery people I don't know

(01:08:44):
within the next three to five years.
Really. Yeah, it might have been sooner
than that. I want to say it said 2026, but
don't quote me on that. I don't think I saved that one.
That's interesting though. So not to say that they're not
going to keep using the drones, but I think that's the direction
they're going to go in is just not pay anyone to do it.

(01:09:05):
Just have robots do it. Wow, that's a little insane.
Oh. Here's one that I think you
would enjoy. OK for sure because this blew me
away. This is 1 can of coke.
One can of Coke, OK Cocaine or Coca-Cola.

(01:09:27):
No one can of cocaine. Would be a lot of cocaine bro.
OK, that that would kill anyone.We both quit talking at the

(01:09:47):
same. I know because, because I, I was
waiting for you to say somethingand then my, one of my clients,
oh, check your e-mail. So I was checking my e-mail and,
and I would, I guess I had to ask him a question.
So I had to go I had to go get salt today for the for the, the
water softener, you know, and they're 40 LB bags and I still

(01:10:09):
have that issue with the middle of my back, but the between my
it feels like something's growing.
Nikki says nothing's growing there.
I keep having your check. So what happens one hour after
drinking a can of Coca-Cola? Now boys and girls, mind you,
when they first came up with Coca-Cola, they called it
Coca-Cola because there's actually cocaine in it.
That's. A true story.
Which is why your grandmother could clean the house so

(01:10:31):
lightning fast back in the 1950sin the 1st 10 minutes.
And have dinner ready and have time to have fun with grandpa
later. Exactly. 1st 10 minutes 10
teaspoons of sugar hit your system 100% of your recommended
daily intake. By the way, you don't

(01:10:52):
immediately vomit from overwhelming sweetness because
phosphoric acid cuts the flavor,allowing you to keep it down.
Now I understand you've probablyall seen the stuff online where
you can take Coca-Cola poured onrust and it it disseminates the
rust. Or clean your car battery.

(01:11:12):
Number two, thing that happens. Your blood sugar spikes, causing
an insulin burst. Your liver responds to this by
turning any sugar it can to get its hands on it into fat.
There's plenty of that at this particular moment.
Because you have 10 teaspoons ofsugar in your system.
And it makes the medicine go down #3 caffeine absorption is

(01:11:37):
complete. Your pupils now dilate, your
blood pressure rises as a response, your liver then UPS
more sugar into your bloodstream.
The adrenaline, the end, I'm sorry, the end and endonosing
receptors in your brain, whatever that is, OK, are now

(01:11:58):
blocked, preventing drowsiness. So basically imagine having
cocaine mixed in that. Your endocrine system is
basically what's keeping you awake and alert while while you
are awake during the waking hours.
Gotcha, gotcha. You know, in Coca-Cola, it's
cold, it's sweet, it's. Everywhere.
It's delicious, but for those ofyou who are sucking down 6 cans

(01:12:20):
a day like I used to, that really was an eye opener.
Well, and the other thing too, like we.
Were talking about 600% of my daily allowance of sugar every
day just in those six cans of coke.
And, and you struggle to put on weight, but most people if
they're drinking, you know, 1015, I, I know people that, you
know, Oh yeah. That they drink soda like it's

(01:12:40):
water like. They turn into 200 and 83127.
People and then and then you stop drinking soda all of a
sudden you lost like 40 lbs in in 2 1/2 months because you
stopped drinking soda. So then and then they take the
next level stop drinking beer same thing.
So everything in moderation is like if you want to have a Coke,
have a Coke and then realize do it like 10:00 in the morning
because then when you crash at 2:00 you can take a nap.

(01:13:02):
Yeah, So to give people a perspective of how like, I'm not
the healthiest person in the world, you see me vape all the
time, that's the next thing I'm giving up.
But I am not overweight by any stretch of the imagination.
The one thing that I do because I have trouble sleeping for a
long time is first thing I did is cut out Coke, right?
So now if I order a meal, unlessI'm out, you know, on the

(01:13:26):
weekend or whatever, I always get Sprite and a small one.
The other thing during the week,obviously I drink coffee, but
the last caffeine that I ever have is at my 9:00 break.
That's it. I have 3 cups of coffee,
whatever fits in like a travel thermos.
I make 4 cups of coffee every day, like in the pot right up to

(01:13:46):
the number 4. That's it.
So after 9:00, no more caffeine for the rest of the day.
That helped. Definitely helped with my
sleeping habits and not waking up all the time.
Yeah, yeah. And I say I drink.
I drink 1 cup of coffee. I use honey and soy milk.
Yeah, I use honey. And it's probably it's, it's a

(01:14:09):
Tumblr. It's not a coffee cup.
Yeah. That's what mine is.
Yeah. It's probably like 16 ounces,
but that's it. And then I don't.
That's all I have to. I drink tea, you know, during
the day. Which has a little bit of
caffeine, but not like not like coffee.
Yeah, and I drink Folgers because it's it's, it's the best
part of waking up, you know? I drink Don Francisco

(01:14:31):
butterscotch toffee, my brother.Really.
Yes. Does it actually taste like
butterfly Scotch coffee? It will change your life.
I have never been able to drink.I mean, I do like Sunday.
My dad drinks Folgers as well. I like Folgers.
There's nothing wrong with it. He'll tell you.
I sit down and drink a pot and 1/2 with him.
It's amazing. It's the best part of waking up
soldiers in your cup. For me, being owner proprietor

(01:14:55):
here at my own Little Ponderosa,I like the Don Francisco's
Butterscotch Toffee because coffee is amazing.
This will change your life. Now, how did you discover Don
Don Francisco's Butterscotch Toffee Coffee I.
Will tell you a story. That's why I asked.
So it was like the second time that I went to visit Carrie in

(01:15:17):
Michigan. I think I talked to you on the
phone that time. OK?
I woke up 1 morning and she always had my coffee ready and I
would go in. She worked from home, so I'd go
into her office and sit down andtalk to her, and I'm sitting
there drinking the coffee. And she was super quiet.
Yeah. And I was like, man, this is the
best cup of coffee I've ever hadin my life.

(01:15:38):
And all of a sudden she started talking to me.
She's like, Oh my God, Who? She said I didn't have any
regular coffee left, and I just put it in your pod.
She had one of those Keurig Keurig things, and she said I
was just going to see how you liked it.
If you said it sucked, I guess you were going to have to go to
the store and get some coffee. But I'm glad you like it.
I've been drinking the same thing ever since man.

(01:15:59):
So is it in a Keurig or do you actually brew it now?
No, I buy it in a can and the coffee is flavored.
It's not a Creamer bullshit. It's actually that flavored
coffee. It's amazing.
OK, I'm going to have to try that, man, because I, I, I, I
don't. When we stopped the whole sugar
thing, I stopped buying the the because I would have flavor.

(01:16:20):
I'd put soy milk and then I'd add a, you know, a splash or two
of, of whatever. See, and I can't put milk in
there, so. Right, this is soy milk.
This helps and I'm not, I don't know.
No, that's good. I wasn't not a fan.
Of soy milk. Yeah, yeah.
I tried it in my cereal and it probably saved me because I
probably would eat cereal if I like soy milk, you know?

(01:16:40):
Well, there's all Have you triedthe almond milk and and?
Yeah, and it was all right too. It just, I guess I've lived with
cereal without cereal so much ofmy life.
I used to eat it with a thing called coffee Rich, which I do
put a little bit of that in my coffee, but I'll put like, I
don't know, less than 1/4 of a cup in that whole Tumblr.

(01:17:04):
Oh wow. OK.
If you want to sit down and eat a bowl of cereal, this stuff's
full of sugar, man. OK.
So. Yeah, yeah.
The other the other Creamer I'veused is Planted Oat, which is
pretty good. OK I might try that.
I do like oat. Yeah, yeah.
And they have different, different varieties of it, like
regular, and then they have vanilla, then they'll have super
velvet. It's like a creamy.

(01:17:24):
It makes it a little more creamy, like a barista style.
Now I will tell you almond milk ice cream.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
From Ben and Jerry's is the bomb.
Yeah, I've had that. It's so good.
Oh, I didn't realize Ben and Jerry's had.
It it's so good dude. Really.
Yeah, in the in the grocery store aisle.
Yeah, for your section. They were the first, they were
the first to make non dairy thatI saw.

(01:17:45):
Yeah. Now there's two companies out of
Canada. I would like to give a shout out
to Jeremy Cross's Canada for sending down some non dairy
stuff so I can enjoy like a pizza.
There's a company called Daya DAIYA.
Their stuff is amazing. And the other one is so
delicious, so, SO dash delicious.

(01:18:06):
Their stuff is amazing as well. Yep, I've had both those.
Shout out to both those companies if you want to.
I didn't know they're a CanadianA.
Sponsor on the Chris and Mike show.
We'll gladly. We'll just.
Take your money, we'll talk about you.
You know, we'll talk about it, we'll eat it, we'll eat it.
And, you know, we flavor test everything, you know, bring it
on. Don't leave out the first part.
We'll take your money and then we'll talk about you.
Right, exactly because that's what makes the world go round.

(01:18:30):
That's the last free plug for myfree last.
Not then again, not then again. Never, Never.
Never. Never, never.
Yeah, so put your Don Francisco's in the carts in your
Amazon and they will send you 3 little cans, like the look, you
know the little cans. And if you don't like it, you
can send me the other two. OK.

(01:18:52):
But I'm certain it's going to change your life.
Right on. I bought.
You have to give it a shot. Something I I got an Amazon
package. I don't know what I ordered, but
it's pretty big. And here's the great thing.
I'll tell you one last quick story.
I probably shouldn't, I probablyshouldn't out this on the
podcast. It might ruin it for me.
I don't think Amazon's listeningto the Chris and Mike show, but
since January I've ordered 2 sets of three cans, and both

(01:19:16):
times they sent me the wrong ones because Don Francisco's
makes many kinds of coffee. So they sent me Colombian
Supreme Colombian. Colombian supreme.
He's a political refugee from Columba, Cuba.
So I was all pissed off and I goto work and a good friend of
mine said go up to your account and go all the way to the right
hand side to customer service and tell them they sent you the

(01:19:37):
wrong shit and they'll tell you to keep it because it's
considered a food item and they will send you the new one.
So I have been drinking coffee for free since January on
Amazon. So thank you for picking the
wrong one off the shelf, you stupid computer.
Right. It's funny how that works, but
that's the kind of the it's kindof cool thing with Amazon, you
can return anything. Yeah, they went.

(01:19:59):
I don't know if you were familiar with Amazon before that
was that way. They used to have horrible.
You had to call somebody and tell them you wanted to return.
They tried that route for a while.
Oh, gotcha. They actually had customer
service people. Then they said fuck it, we'll
just send you whatever you want.Just.
Keep it. Yeah, Because then they just did

(01:20:20):
the returns end up going on those pallets you can buy for 35
bucks and you don't know what you're going to get.
You know, the Amazon pallets. That's a big thing in Arizona
anyway. Oh, it is.
Yeah. I guess when you get up around
Chicago or a bigger town, yeah, it is here too.
Yeah, like Nikki, at one point in time she signed up for an
Amazon thing. You know, you don't know what
you're going to get type thing. And then what came in was like

(01:20:42):
air pods, like a couple nice little apple, right?
I'm like, that was like, what, 20 bucks?
She's like, yeah, I'm like, holyshit.
And Skylar before, like, hey, Amazon crate carts, you know,
crates, but pallets. Like I'm not buying an Amazon
pallet. I don't know what the Hell's in
it. Yeah, well, it just sounded like
a scam, right? Yeah, it totally sounded like a
scam, but it's legit. It was.
It's 100% legit. You know, I think that's what

(01:21:03):
happens when the Amazon trucks back up to each other and you
see them a random spark, you know, neighborhoods, doors are
like. Now you and I have talked
recently about, you know, takingstarting something from nothing
and building it to what it is right Now.
Imagine being Jeff Bezos from that famous picture of him
sitting in his office behind theIKEA desk with

(01:21:25):
the.matrixamazon.com sign behindhim to holy shit he rules the
world. Right.
Because that's a lot of people forget.
That's a worldwide company, man.It is all over.
Which makes it even more comicalthat he tried to stage a flight
into space and allowed the participants to open the door

(01:21:49):
incorrectly, then stop and say wait it gots to go out and then
a video leaked of him picking upthe trash around his spacecraft
before it actually was supposed to air.
Some people are what I like to call Mr. Chris Dunham Idea Men.
Yes. They're not good at the practice

(01:22:10):
of no. A lot of people don't know this
and this might be one of those Mike talking out his ass, but
I'm almost positive Leo Fender did not know how to play guitar.
I I I've heard that before. So.
I have. I've heard that before.
He made what he made arguably one of the two most famous
guitars in the entire world, andhe was the first to do it right.

(01:22:31):
Gibson. Gave the Les Paul, right?
Yeah, Les, other ones being the.Just Gibson in.
General Right, right, right. But the yeah.
But what made Gibson famous was the the stun, the starburst,
right? That was the.
That's the whole. The Sunburst.
Yeah, yeah, I said starburst. I'm sorry, I said starburst.
Les Paul, right? Yeah, yeah.
So when people think of guitars,they think of the Fender

(01:22:51):
Stratocaster, which Leo Fender made.
Yep, 1st 100%. Probably in the late 40s, if I
remember right. And then Gibson came along, you
know, a few years later, and LesPaul helped him design the
famous. You know, if everybody knows
Slash, that's the guitar he plays all the time.
So yeah. There you go.
Yeah, one of the most famous guitar makers in the world did

(01:23:11):
not know how to play the instrument.
I found that fascinating. That's crazy, weird, wild stuff.
So that's it. That's this is This Is Us.
This is the Christian life. He's pulling the plug, he's
pulling the plug, I'm pulling the He knows I'm hungry.
So go find us on Instagram, follow us, find us on Facebook,
Chris and Mike show, follow us, subscribe, drop a review.
If you listen to the show, watchthe show on YouTube, just drop a

(01:23:33):
review because it helps us organically grow, which is what
we're trying to do. We don't pump money.
And it doesn't work. Some people do.
It does. I'm right there with him.
Please drop a review, drop a comment.
You know, just tell everybody how much you like it because it
puts us out there in front of people who we would have not had
the chance to be in front of otherwise.
Lemoyne being one of them. His agent contacted us.

(01:23:54):
So you guys put us in a positionwhere somebody that was high up
enough, Grammy nominated producers sold millions of
records in the rap world. And, you know, the guy was
legit. And thanks again to both of you
for her name was Laura. Correct.
Laura. Laura.
Laura. Lemoyne, thanks again.
Yeah, and Laura's e-mail was wasone of the best emails we've

(01:24:18):
gotten for the show because it showed us that she actually took
an interest in our show. Because she.
Reference. Yeah, because she referenced an
episode in which we were talkingmusic.
In the middle of the show. Right.
And it wasn't, it wasn't something you could just Fast
forward to because we don't, we don't, you don't see what we're
talking about, right? I mean, it's in this, it's in

(01:24:40):
the description, it's in the show's description.
You know the hashtags and keywords may make that.
Sometimes those are accurate, sometimes they're right.
Right. But legit for somebody to dive
into our show. I was impressed.
And what strikes me about that is how many episodes did you
actually listen to until she gotto something that.
Was yeah, we don't know to. Her world, sure.

(01:25:02):
And I kind of, you know, originally when you sent an
e-mail, I was like, well, this is just bullshit.
There's no way, you know, and and then she responded and here
we are, you know, we've. And so, yeah, if you want to be
on the show like we yeah, if youwant to be on the show, like we
said earlier, just be a human breathing, living.
It'd be cool to have a zombie on, if that's possible.
I don't know how we'd communicate with a zombie.
I don't think a zombie would be a very good podcast, other than

(01:25:24):
the fact that we could say we had a zombie.
I don't think we're going to geta lot of interaction.
Yeah, yeah. You know, I don't know either.
We could do a short with a zombie.
We could do a short with a zombie, absolutely.
Does Dave from Ireland know any zombies?
I don't know, maybe if vampires,if you're a vampire or a
werewolf, that would be cool. Come on.
Sweet. You know, Yeah.
Just anybody. Everybody wants to come on the

(01:25:45):
show. Just let us know.
We'll talk to you and you know. It's not hard to figure out why.
We're in a band together. We're into the same shit.
Zombies. Werewolf serial killers.
And all the things that make youwarm and fuzzy at.
Country line dancing exactly. Just to prove we're enigmas.
Exactly YouTube Channel 2 don't forget to subscribe, especially
those watching because you'll, you'll get all the alerts when

(01:26:07):
we drop things. So you know boys and girls
attend next time if you're having a bad day, don't not let
the bad day win. Somebody Loves You, somebody
will miss you. Don't leave that hole in
somebody's heart and soul. Reach out, talk to somebody,
seek some help, and tomorrow is always a better day.
Amen, brother. Amen, brother.
Love my friend, you have a wonderful rest of your evening
and go have some leftover pork chop and applesauce.

(01:26:29):
I'm looking forward to it. Love you my friend.
But no applesauce. Love you too, brother.

(01:26:52):
This is the place where you willgo.
Feel the trail behind your eyes,Feel the soap and meet yourself.
Take your moment. Look until you see him.
Fight the battle. That's you, boss Wheel.

(01:27:15):
Fight the battle. But you boss Wheel.
Who is this baby? Come down here, we haven't found

(01:28:45):
salad and sand from fighting. We're going to see we're closure
out here for the wind. You ain't no creature.
We're playing. Smile and you should you press
on the Almighty. You gotta treat you who in your

(01:29:07):
life to keep our soul in every man.
Take the tail behind your eyes. Feel the soul everyone shed now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

(01:29:30):
Take a moment. You can see your fear quite the
fail in two more clear. You gotta, you gotta.

(01:30:05):
You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.
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