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July 6, 2025 100 mins

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In this engaging conversation, Chris, Mike, and Lloyd Dittfurth explore a variety of topics ranging from life on the road as a truck driver to the impact of technology and AI on personal and professional lives.

They share personal stories, travel experiences, and reflections on relationships, addiction, and personal growth. The discussion highlights the importance of communication in relationships and the dynamics of trust and fidelity, including the concept of hall passes. Through humor and candid storytelling, the trio navigates the complexities of modern life and the lessons learned along the way.

In this engaging conversation, the speakers explore various themes including fitness activities like paddleboarding, the journey of running from 5Ks to half marathons, and the therapeutic aspects of running as a stress management tool. They delve into personal stories from the trucking industry, discussing the challenges faced by drivers and the lack of support for dispatchers in emergency services.

The conversation also touches on the impact of automation and regulations in trucking, and concludes with insights on YouTube growth strategies, particularly the effectiveness of shorts in content creation.

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(00:32):
What's up there, boys and girls?This is this is Mike.
I'm Chris. He's my friend.
With us today is Lloyd Ditworth.Did I say that right, Lloyd?
Because, you know, sometimes I'mbad at not some names.
Not at all, but not the worst. But I've got dit Firth.
But that's fine. Dit Firth.
Dit Firth. OK, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha,
gotcha. I got to make.
Sure. Nice to meet you, Lloyd.
Thanks for coming. Up Yeah Lloyd, MM Lloyd, I got

(00:55):
to make sure my internet's rocking and rolling because it
seems to be lagging for some reason and yes Mike, I'm on the
right one this time. I have 3 Wi-fi's would be my
next question so. I got starlink man, you should
get the greatest. I know dude, I have.
I have Starlink man. But you'd be surprised.
Sometimes my Starlink just sucks, dude.

(01:17):
It's crazy. It's I've yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know why I don't, I really don't know why.
Like sometimes my dedicated Cox Internet is better than the
Starling because that's what I'mon right now and it just seems
to be glitching a little bit. But I'm going to, I'm going to
swap over there and see what happens when we're live.
So if I pause for station identification, I'll just

(01:38):
continue the conversation. He definitely needs to switch
over. I'm still there, right?
I got the R&D package trying to select.
Buffering because you roboted a little bit, you know, which is
weird. All right, cool, we're good.
All right interesting. I'm just watching the upload
thing. It's only it's only at 50% right
now, which is weird, so we'll see how it catches up.

(02:00):
So we are streaming live on YouTube, in case you didn't
know, boys and girls that are listening to us or watching us
there. You know we are because you're
watching us there. A rare occurrence.
I'm wearing my glasses for the whole world to see.
So just relax, OK, Contact lenses in Arizona suck sometimes
in the in the dry summer heat. And yesterday, just to share
with everybody was 117° in Arizona.

(02:23):
What about you, Mike? Oh.
It was warm here, but not that warm.
You had probably. What about you, Lloyd?
How hot is it in Dallas or not Dallas?
I'm sorry, you're in Texas. How hot is it in Texas, right?
Now actually I'm outside of Dallas but yesterday I was in
Florida and it was 101 and humidas hell and I sweat my
everything. That's brutal.

(02:44):
And then Jacksonville, actually,and then ended up getting done
and flew back to San Antonio. That's where I slept last night
and then drove up here this morning.
So now I'm home. Right on.
I, I kind of, I'm all over, all over the world, the US, right?
Because you explained to I know we, we, we, yeah, I'm sure

(03:07):
you've watched some of our shows.
So we're all about just talking about whatever the hell we want
to talk about. So it's completely open
discussion. You and I talked a while ago and
you're, you drive a, you got ACDlicense, you drive a truck, but
you, you haul stuff. So I actually deliver trucks.
I deliver. I drive a truck with a truck and

(03:27):
a truck. I know exactly.
What you're kidding about? Yeah, wow, that's awesome, man.
Yeah, most of my trips end up going to Chicago.
Like up I go to Hampshire, I go to Gary IN Elmhurst, Burr Ridge,
all up in there. So you drive right by my
hometown on your way to Chicago a lot of times, I'm guessing

(03:49):
coming up 55. Which one?
Pontiac. Yeah, go through Pontiac.
Actually, one of my favorite places to stop is McClain.
They got that Ranger that's got the Dixon Cafe in there.
I love going in there. It's like one of the this old
school truck stop vibe. One of the last ones, yeah.
For Oh yeah, well, they should have.
Actually. I had my first date with my wife

(04:11):
at 4:00 AM at A at ATA truck stop.
She had just got off shift working on the ambulance and I
had left the bar and I met her and we went to the went and had
breakfast and then we went to her house to watch a movie and I
just never left are. You serious?

(04:33):
How long? How long ago was that?
That was 2011, so 14 years. Right on dude, I've been I've
been with Nikki for we're 30 years.
We we met on her birthday. She blew me off until so it was
December 6th. She blew me off until February
19th of our first date, and thenwe got married a year to the day
of our first date and we've beentogether ever since.

(04:55):
Mike's. Mike's just a whore.
He just man whores around. He's a he's a he's a he's a what
is it? What?
He's. Yeah.
Mike. Michael's Mel.
Mel Gigolo. Right.
Deuce Bigalow. Mel Gigolo.
That's funny. I was like I'm.
Not like his back back, so I'm sure he got a little bit of
groupies going on around there. We, we, we were kind of

(05:18):
different, man. We, we, we were all about the
music. I was married, Scott was
married, Rick was married. Mike was single.
So, you know, he had his moments.
A lot of fun back then, but definitely not with the women.
I I wasn't that kind of musician.
At all. Yeah, we actually had.
We were musicians with morals, if you can believe that.

(05:40):
We just, you know, it was, it was about the product that we
were putting on stage and connecting with the fans and
growing our audience and growingour draw because back then we
had to do all the legwork to getpeople in the door.
It wasn't, you know, you didn't have the Internet.
It was like, oh, it was just playing Saturday night at 9.
You know it didn't work that way.
Oh, I totally I, I couldn't haveI I love the Internet.

(06:03):
The Internet is one of the greenest things in the world.
However, I just found out today that we're all going to die.
How'd you find that out? I was sitting there and I was
driving down the road and so I will like let reels play in the
background. OK.
Because I have a YouTube channel, I kind of like have to

(06:24):
study yeah, to be able to edit correctly and figure out things.
And so I had. So you're learning.
So you're learning while you're driving from an audio
standpoint, kind of like listening to instructions.
Makes you go huh? What?
What? What are you talking about?
And so I was sitting there goingdown the road and it was just
going, and I hear this deal where they're talking about how

(06:45):
Microsoft, the king of viruses, the king of everything that will
ruin a computer. It came out with this new
quantum computer chip and found a fourth topographical matter
substance, and then this new molecule that when they go

(07:05):
together, it's supposed to be like 100 million times smarter
than any computer on Earth. Oh, you said fuck.
And then? So better, so better, so better
than the Whopper for those of you who know what I'm talking
about. Shall we play a game?
Most definitely I saw the same. It did.
Testing. Yeah, yeah, I did.

(07:27):
Wow. It's crazy.
It's the, if they get it developed, it will completely
start elevating and jumping itself.
And then they're going to put that stuff in militaries and
weapons and everything. And it's going to be demolition
day, Terminator time, whatever you call it.
The I, I'm just going to look for the Green Goblin and, and a

(07:48):
truck that's going to run over me.
So that's. Maximum OverDrive, nice dude.
Dude, I love that movie. That was a great movie ahead of
its time man. Steven came in bro.
It's time. Right, I saw something not too
long what two or three days ago where they, you remember the
Terminator, the what? The second one, the shape
shifting the metal. Oh, for sure, yeah.

(08:09):
Right, that's they developed that.
Oh, Robert. Oh, Robert Patrick.
Yeah, I I met nationals one year.
It's. Cool.
Yeah, they developed that technology apparently.
Say what? They have it, the shape shifting
metal. It's it exists now scientists
discovered how to you know. Yeah, seeing we're there is no

(08:30):
point. We're all going to die.
Let's have a good time doing it right?
Maybe like. I couldn't agree more.
I'm I'm on your team, man. Try try not to go to.
I mean there's very low parameters there.
Survive, I have. To go to jail, I love it.
Yeah, I mean, technology is coolfrom like this, right?

(08:51):
I'm in Arizona, he's in Illinois.
You're in Texas. Cool.
We had a guy in a couple weeks ago from Australia and there was
absolutely no delay, right? Australia right, like down
under, no delay. So technology has its advantages
for sure, but then the the dark side of it is that shit.
It's just creepy how you got ChatGPT and things.

(09:13):
Dude, I'm all about, I'm all about ChatGPT.
My ChatGPT guy's name is Dave. I talk to him every day.
Hey, Dave, you know, because they tell you if you personalize
it and please and thank you, they actually lock everything in
the memory. So when I put together the shows
that go on YouTube, I take all the stuff that Riverside
generates for us as far as content concerned, I'll give it
to Dave and I'll ask him to rewrite it, make an SEO friendly

(09:36):
and give me some hashtags and keywords and then I'll go in and
tweak what I don't like that he does.
But it's brilliant. Like I have him.
I haven't restructured my emailsnow when I send my offers
because I'm in real estate and and you know, it's just, it's
it, he makes my emails even though I know how to write.
I'm a writer. I publish books and shit.
He just makes it to where it comes across.
It's a little bit more professional and like, well,

(09:58):
it's. So much faster, right?
I tell people all the time, we release two of these shows every
week and you can go down the artificial intelligence Rd. too.
But if not for AI, we wouldn't be doing this show twice a week
because we both have full time jobs, right?
It makes editing, and like Chrissaid, putting a formatted

(10:22):
presentation together in a matter of minutes instead of
sitting there and typing it out yourself.
Which like he said he could do, but it would take him an hour
where in 3 minutes this thing can do exactly what he wants it
to do, probably what, 85% of theway?
Right, because I'll take the shorts we make from this show,
Lloyd, like we'll get anywhere from 10 to 15 shorts and then

(10:43):
I'll go through before I upload them and I'll read what what the
AI names them. So, you know, it could it could
be AI right conversation, whatever.
So then I'll take that and I'll I'll put them all into Dave and
say, Hey, give me these are shorts, summarize them hashtags,
keywords, so I can use it for YouTube and and it works, dude,
because we went from March when I started doing it that that

(11:08):
precisely from what 28,000 viewsor something.
Now we just Mike just sent me thing earlier today.
We just eclipsed 100,000 views. And like, yeah, thank you like 3
months. So I have.
To make the same argument here, and Chris will love this
argument, I have to make the same argument for technology and

(11:28):
AI that I made for music back inthe 80s when we had the whole,
you know, parental advisory bullshit and music was
corrupting our children. And that can be used for evil
just as much as technology and AI.
Absolutely. It's all about the intent.
Yes. So I actually tried I I paid for

(11:53):
AI to edit my videos because I thought.
Oh no shit. Yeah, it was the most.
Well, I wasted 150 bucks on one video.
I didn't even publish it. I, I I do a UN, it's edited but
it's not. Right.
You don't, you don't, you don't,You don't make you, you kind of
keep it unfiltered. So it's a little bit raw, yeah.

(12:14):
Yeah, well, it's straight up like you see.
I've seen them. Yeah, I've seen them.
Well, I'm on a bed. If that bed is hard as to be,
you're going to see it on my face.
Right, right. Yeah, if it is soft and it just
wraps you up and you're going tosee it.
Yeah, I can't. I can't change the fridge not

(12:36):
working, the TV not working. I can't.
I mean, now, granted, you just kind of trust me.
Whenever I walk in it, it smellslike a nursing home or it's just
like, Oh my God, I gotta, I can't change.
Whenever I use the black light to walk around the room and I
see the fun dribbles. Here's your hashtag fun

(12:57):
dribbles. Fun dribbles.
Yeah, I stay in some, I, I stay in some really high class
places, vacations. So stay in the Econo Lodge is
$38 a night and let me tell you what shout out to the Econo
Lodge next to the truck stop with the hookers and the

(13:19):
crackheads and walk the house inOklahoma City there is the
cleanest hotel and the night I am Canadian it is amazing.
I love it every time. The only problem is I can't
always fit in there because I'm too big.
Oh, the rig what you drive? Yeah.
Well, I can't. Back.

(13:40):
How long is that? Yeah, you got to send us a
picture of that shit we'll put up on our page.
I'm in. Are you in oversized load?
No, I'm only so I can go to 105 feet long whatever I'm doing.
The ones that are like built up like a trailer Now I have any
pictures today. Edit I delete them all off my
phone so I have room for storagebecause I do all my videos on my

(14:00):
phone. Yeah, I feel you.
But yeah, you can go up to 105 foot long.
It depends on the chassis and stuff and also the states that
you're on through. Because like if you're going
through Georgia and some of those states, they limit you and
you got to be shorter. You can't be too tall.
And there's just, there's a whole bunch of different little

(14:23):
variables. So it depends on where you go.
I, I don't know. And sometimes you get into some
precarious situations like I wascoming into, there was a brand
new dealership in Troy, IL and Iall I had was AGPS coordinates

(14:43):
for it on this app deal. Like no big deal.
Clicked it. I called ahead and they're like,
yeah, it's the new building. Like all right.
So I go and I sitting there and it takes me all around this road
and back around and everything. And I pop over these three hills
and I get to the third hill and there's an 11 foot railroad
bridge and I'm like. Oh no.

(15:05):
Boy, and so it's a good thing I only had three trucks because
you can kind of sort of back three trucks around the corner.
But four trucks. Is it possible?
But three trucks, you can do it.But if they're all the same
length, but if they're stacked up, it's kind of hard.
I have got myself into some precarious situations and pulled

(15:28):
in some places where I didn't know if I was going to get out
of just. From the truck is.
It's just really because think about, you can back a trailer,
right? Sure, I can't back a trailer
dude. I don't know how to drive a
truck with a trailer. I suck like.
That I'm fairly good at it, yeah.
OK, well back a trailer with a trailer.
Oh my God. No.

(15:49):
Oh yeah, that would that would be I can't do.
That. Then.
Barely back a trailer. Back A trailer with a trailer
with a trailer. Oh God.
That's some serious geometry. Yeah, no.
It's that as. Much like it's it's it's trying
to knock the 9 ball into the corner pocket.

(16:10):
Whenever you're blindfolded backwards and shooting through
your leg, you can do it. Yeah, but yeah.
It's kind of a pain in the ass. So how tall were you in that
situation where the bridge was? 11 foot.
How about 1313? That's.
What I was working? So.
Because around here I see like 13-6 warnings a lot like over

(16:33):
train. Bridges on, Yeah, on the
overpasses. Yeah.
Yeah, I see. That's that You can.
Be legally anywhere so they try to keep it at 13 four because
sometimes you you sit there and you bounce kind of deal that way
if it pops up and don't take thetop out I've seen.
Maybe that's what I'm seeing is 13/4.
But I mean well, 13 six the the kind of the standard.

(16:57):
Oh, that's allowing for the clearance you're.
Saying, yeah, but like, 'cause these things are riding on
airbags and stuff, so if you hita bump, it'll jump up, you know?
So they try to keep it at 13, four at A at a maximum.
That way if you go under a bridge or something and you hit
a bump, it doesn't pop up and take.
Especially in Illinois, you're going to hit many potholes and.

(17:19):
Oh God. Well, it's not as bad as coming
into Indiana. Oh, they're terrible too.
Nobody, man, I tell you what, I had a cup of coffee one day and
I thought, man, this is great. It's no big deal.
I just left Dayton, OH. I left the hotel there and I'm
just a strolling on down the road.

(17:40):
I mean, everything's great and Iwasn't even thinking about that.
I was about to roll into Indianaand I got to take a drink of
that coffee and I got my Yeti. No big deal.
Same Yeti. This thing's been probably
1,000,000 miles actually up. I'm sitting there going down the
road and I hit that bump so hardthey knocked the top off of it
and I covered myself in coffee I've.

(18:02):
Said words that people didn't know existed driving on the
roads in Illinois and Indiana. Michigan's gotten a lot better.
They've they've redone 94, about168 miles in both directions.
I went up to, oh, I had to go toDetroit to cross a couple months
ago. That wasn't that.

(18:24):
And I cut up through Indiana, soand then the where else have I
been out there? I don't really go to Michigan
all that often. I'm trying to stay away from it.
This is kind of. Goes to Michigan.
Mike goes to Michigan every now and then.
Well. He does.
I like their products, yeah. Oh.

(18:46):
Yeah, there you. Go in Illinois.
It's way too expensive. Really.
Oh yeah, Michigan's kind and didthe right thing.
And Illinois is like, give me all your money.
Give me all your tax revenue, yeah.
So Illinois is expensive for everything like I want.
I try to Here's another Here's another thing.

(19:07):
Starting July 1st, they're goingto tax everybody $0.50 on every
sports bet that they make them dirty.
Bastards. Really.
That doesn't. That doesn't seem fair.
No, it's been legal since 2018. Seven years later, they decide
that it can't be free anymore. Every bet's going to have a
$0.50 tax on it. Or maybe it's up to $0.50

(19:31):
depending on your wager, but still.
Yeah, see, I can't. I just don't bet on sports,
though. I just can't.
I. Can't either.
MM does. I don't.
I don't either. I'm the same way.
I just I, I, I, I call Mike. Calculated risk because I'm
pretty educated at what the outcome is going to be barring
an unforeseen circumstance. Yeah, Mike does a good job at
it. Like his entire studio behind

(19:52):
you. He he built off of revenue from
gambling. Yes.
OK. Yeah, that's right, all free.
I I might should need some tip. Maybe I should do it.
No, not really. I'm not I'm not going to start
betting on Yeah, I mean maybe betting on the horses kind of
deal, but not not the sports because that's just not my.

(20:14):
I used to do it a long time ago when we used to, when you could
do like the football, the, the, the pools, the football pools
where you pick the games, you know, for the week.
Yeah, I would get 10 or 11 out of that and I'd win those pools
all the time because I was just straight up wins and losses,
Right. It's just, and I just knew that
I was so into football back thenbecause it wasn't flag football
that you actually understood thewhole concept of, of the teams

(20:37):
and the quarterbacks and all kind of shit and home field
advantage matter and the referees didn't fuck shit up,
you know, so it. But it's just not the same
anymore. Oh.
I imagine that, yeah, I don't, Idon't do football.
I don't do baseball. I don't like professional sports
aren't professionals anymore. They're just celebrities.

(20:57):
And so I stopped really dealing with any of that kind of stuff,
like I guess really since forever.
And it's so bad that so my kid went to OU University and he was
one of the the guys who hung outthe back of the wagon, which is
called the schooner. My wife will kill me if I don't

(21:19):
call that out, right? And would sit there and hang out
and, you know, holding the flag and all that stuff.
And so I was actually helping because they didn't have a lot
of parents who had experience with horses kind of deal.
So I would help whenever they brought the ponies up in and I'd
help the kids deal with them up there because they only had a

(21:42):
couple people for down there. And, you know, it's just no big
deal. So I got to go to the tunnel and
go down the field is, you know, interesting.
And I met some like royalty kindof guys.
And one of I can't even rememberis that Barry Switzer, I met him
one day, had a full conversationwith this kid, no idea who he

(22:05):
was. Oh, right on.
At all. And for those who don't know,
Barry Switcher was Oklahoma. He was Oklahoma college
quarterback and then he ended upon the coattails of Jimmy
Johnson in Dallas. And that was the last time
Dallas Cowboys won the Super Bowl.
That was like 3 decades ago, youknow, So that's probably the big
yeah, remember. See, I forgot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's been a minute, right?

(22:28):
Yeah, yeah, just. So I try to give everybody
because I've had just a life, I've I tried to like let
everybody have 1 little tidbit or two tidbits of things that
are like just mind blowing things that changed the course

(22:50):
of my life kind of deal. And I, I got a couple for y'all.
I'll give you 1 now. That'll be alright.
So Patrick bet David, I don't know if you with the PVD podcast
kind of deal. Well, he had a YouTube channel
on it was called Value Tainment.And it was kind of like business
mixed with entertainment kind ofdeal breaking things down.

(23:14):
And so I started watching this back when he was first going and
he had this one video where he came out and he started talking.
He was taking a a deck of cards and just laying them down there.
He said there's 52 weeks in a year and there's 52 cards in a
deck. OK, that's cool.

(23:34):
Go through and every week, it may be a crappy week and two of
clubs, but you got to know throughout the year, eventually
you're going to get the base cards, you're going to get them
aces. It's coming, right?
And that was a really profound thing.
But then I realized, wait a minute, I'm probably not going

(23:57):
to live till I'm 52. I wouldn't expect him to make it
till 40 so. That makes three of us.
Yeah, I I wrote a song, dude. It was all about dying when I
was 30. Well.
True story, I started like breaking through and taking each
one of those and like breaking down my life as it came through
growing up. When my dad cut his fingers off

(24:18):
and I had to be a tracker mechanic cause 8II.
OK, so go, go. OK, hold on, hold on, hold on,
'cause that's that's that's obviously going to be.
Yeah, you can't gloss over that,dude.
So what happened to your dad? How'd that happen?
Yeah. So I had pneumonia and I was in
the hospital like I was not doing good.
And so my dad was staying up there at night and then he would

(24:43):
go back to the shop to work on, on tractors and it was cold and
I think it was, it was below 0. And they had a wood burning
stove in the shop that heated the whole thing.
And he was taking some old fenceposts and cutting them up with a
chop saw so he could throw them in there.

(25:03):
And he'd sit there and there wasa nail in it and it ended up
sucking his fingers to the chop saw.
And so he went like originally he was like this, but then they
took this one to rebuild these. So he's like, yes.
And I don't know if you've ever tried to finger a nut when
you're right-handed and. You're right, yeah.
But yeah, it's kind of hard whenyou ain't got that.

(25:26):
It's almost impossible. Yeah.
Well, I mean, he does, he figured it out to use the other
ones, but it took years of beingable to do therapy and stuff
like that. So I got to be fine.
So and then, so there was that and then we was I, I grew up
poor, real poor, like poor is poor.

(25:49):
Could be kind of you know, that's one reason I love hotels
because whenever I was a kid, wenever got to do that kind of
stuff except once a year with myfamily reunion.
So but I kind of like laid all that stuff out there.
It figured up all these years like when my wife had cancer,
this 08, just everything. And then I realized all those

(26:16):
years of my life sucked really badly, which meant that I've got
all these space cards and aces coming and so I'm on the upward
trend kind of deal. And that's the most mind blowing
thing realization that I got aces and kings coming.
I don't know that mind blowing, but that's.

(26:40):
But it was. I like that, man.
I like visual representations like that.
And I guess I never thought about it, but that we had the
same kind of epiphany, just different visuals, you know?
Yeah. Really.
So what was? Her, Well, I was a horrible drug
addict for quite a few years. And, you know, you can imagine

(27:02):
without going through all the horrid details, I was been, you
know, I've been there, done that.
So to be sitting here talking toyou and talking about life in a
positive mindset, it's never lost on me.
It's never lost on Chris, you know, so that we like to hear
those stories. It's.
Yeah, I just, it's a powerful visual representation that could

(27:25):
be valuable to somebody who's not thinking about it that way,
but. Yeah, any, yeah, yeah.
Anybody that, that that has gonethrough struggles with addiction
and stuff has that moment, man. It's just, it's how you phrase
it. Mine was, you know, Nick and I
never fought. We had a big bullet fight and I
woke up the next day. My fox.
Something's got to change, you know, and I've been sober now 20
years in February, just this past February, past 20 years,

(27:49):
which you don't realize that when you're in the throes of it
that I would have my life would have completely changed.
It was September when her last straw was.
And then Fast forward to the thenext February of that year of
the following year. Had I not woken up and realized
it the next morning, she would have been out.

(28:09):
She was. I had one foot out the door.
She was gone in May because that's when she graduated and
she would have, she had it afterwe kind of we separated for
three months. He moved out and blah, blah,
blah, and all that kind of jazz.And but then all of a sudden
Chris could be talked to becauseI was sober Chris.
And sober Chris is, you know, helistens, he reasons with he's
not just, hey, you know, and I wasn't a Dick.
I wasn't violent, I wasn't verbally assaultive or anything

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like that. I was just, I wasn't there
emotionally. You know, I told the story that
one Chris was I had, I got her diamond earrings and I walked
into the into the great room where she's on the couch and I
threw her the diamond earrings awrap and said, Merry Christmas,
turn around and walked away. You know, like fuck you, here
you go, because I have to do this, you know, but that's the
kind of drunk I was. I wasn't, I paid the bills, I

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took care of the kids. I, you know, I did all my stuff
that that you had to do as a as a husband and a father.
I just wasn't there from an emotional, mental standpoint for
her at all in that last the lastyear of my drinking, because it
got it got to the point to wherethat was, you know, it just got
worse and worse and worse. It escalated, you know, so you
have to have those moments because otherwise you wouldn't

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be sitting here. So there's a kind of an old term
when you're cowboy and if you get a horse and the horse goes
to buck and you just ride the rank at them, right, And you
just on them and they just keep going until they don't want to
buck no more. Well, I was on the way down and

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my buddy Oz, he could tell that I was, I was going down a real
dark path and I hadn't quite gotthere.
I was drunk. I was very much a drunk.
I was a happy drunk, kind of belligerent drunk, but more of a
self deprecating drunk. I was.

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I was. I was starting to get to the
point where I was putting myselfin situations not that I would
harm myself, that I could be harmed.
So like, I went to Juarez on vacation.
That was a horrible idea. Wait, I was.
Going to say wait, war is like war is Mexico.

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Oh yeah, the Kentucky bar is thegreatest thing ever.
It's the oldest bar in North Korea.
They still have. Yeah, the through where the old
Cowboys used to pay in and stuff.
It was a great I had AI had a great time with a a young little
senorita. It was great.

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I walked out at like midnight orso I think I was super drunk.
I they have these little like hot dog stands kind of deal.
And I thought, man, I'm going togive me a hot dog.
That's great. So I gave me a hot dog and as
I'm going to eat it, I don't realize it, but these two cartel

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dealers find this other dude that they've been looking for
and it's the other cartel. They basically grab this dude,
they string him out and he's sitting there and the other dude
walks up. Ow, blows his head off.
And I'm pretty sure I had brain on that hot dog.
I just walked off and ate it. Wow.
Now I'm just out of here and I took off and I didn't run, I

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just walked. This little occurrence.
I'm on the wrong side of the border and I only just went
around the corner and I could tell they were kind of following
me, but I was, I ducked into a abusiness for a while kind of
deal and figure if it's the lasttime as well, right.

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And yeah, next morning I went back across the border and I was
gone. I'm sure it's crazy where I
went. That's insane, man.
So, so when you did, you realizein the moment what's going on?
Or was it something you look back and reflected like, holy
shit, this really happened? Oh, dude, I was very, very aware
of like what happened. Like I sobered up real quick.

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Yeah, yeah. Funny how that?
Happens he's getting blown off and they following the white boy
who probably I didn't even come up with a plan.
If they caught up to me, I was going to tell him that I have
terminal cancer and that I came down here to die kind of deal.
Oh, OK. Take me and like chop me up and

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sell them all organs kind of deal because and if I'm then
they can't ransom because I'm dying.
Right. That was what up to tell them I
had already planned that out. OK, everything I was sitting
there and thinking, OK, do I sitthere and shoot a message of see
you later, I'm out. I didn't know.
Whatever. And it.
Probably would have been like wehave a doctor.
We have a doctor for you. Come here.

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Let me help you. Not going to be that kind of
doctor. So but yeah, I went back crossed
and I went home after that. And my buddy Oz, he sat there
and he realized what I was doing.
And so how this happened, I don't really know.
But it was like 6:00 in the evening and I was already like 4

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sheets of wind. And he says, hey, let's go to
California. And I was like, sure, when you
want to go, let's leave. Let's leave in like 8 hours.
What? Yeah.
Let's go, man. Let's.
Let's go ahead and pack up, get some sleep.

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We'll hit ropes. Sure.
We packed up next. We're about 4:00 in the morning.
He showed up and we took off andwe rode 1000 miles that day.
Damn. I mean, it was.
I was sweating everything out. I, too, was horrible.
And he didn't really. And when we ended up going up
through Utah and then back down into Vegas and I had a friend

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who hooked us up with the comp room and I didn't even drink
that night, I'm like, I thought,we're going to party in Vegas.
That's the only time I've ever actually stayed the night in
Vegas. Didn't.
Really didn't gamble at all. It was just like, yeah, I went
to sleep. Next morning we got up we he

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wanted to go to Joshua Tree to partake and something just to
say he did it at Joshua Tree. So we.
Oh that would be awesome. We rode across the Hoover Dam
and what's funny is I've actually been down that road
several times and it is one of the most awesome places, I

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think. But like those I I love that
road. So but it was it was pretty
cool. So then we went out and ended up
going up to Sacramento and then came back down through came back
down through San Francisco and we stayed on a a his brother did

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like 5th surveying like they they went out and would dive off
these reefs and count fish and the types of fish.
Like. Met them for like ecological
reasons. No, that's all.
Yeah, we stayed on their their dive boat that night.

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Like we literally just rode our Harleys down onto the pier and
stayed on their dive boat in Ventura, CA and then that was
great. Next morning got up and gone and
very. Cool.
Texas, it was it was all right. We ended up, we did.
We didn't do the whole trip. We, we strolled straight through

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Arizona. But you know, we stopped and I
believe it's Gallup, NM. And then came the rest way over
to Amarillo and that was it. But Amarillo by morning.
Ironic enough, I actually had tolive in San Antonio, so the next
trip a lot. Had to do it.
Had to do it, Amarillo. Everybody does.

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Anytime you hear, you know. Right.
What was the other one? What is the other time?
Oh, no, I mean, Glen Campbell had the one by the time I get to
Phoenix, Yeah, by the time I getto Phoenix, she'll be leaving.
She'll have left a note on my door.
That's a good song. Dude, it is what?
Talk about a raising alcoholic man Glen Campbell for decades.

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That dude just fucking made the breweries.
The breweries and the. Didn't get much better of an
alcoholic thing. No, that dude was a legend when
it came to the alcohol world. Might just, you know, him and
Ozzy Osbourne. Imagine them two together.
And Alice Cooper. Oh my God.
Ironically, Mark Grace as well. How many DUI?
Oh, that's right, Mark Grace thecubbies.

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He was a raging alcoholic dude. I forgot about him.
I didn't know that my mother. He retired and went to Arizona.
He became a color commentator and he just kept getting DUI
after DUI. I think he had three before I
left in 2009. No kidding.
So my mom's in love with Mark Grace.
Always been, always will be. My parents got divorced when I

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was 16. But she would always say if like
she left my dad, she would totally like go from our grace
like that. What grace was the hall pass?
You know what I don't actually understand?
The whole hall pass deal, like, you know, I, I, I, you kind of
watch some of my videos. We go to a lot of resorts that

(37:34):
are frequented by swingers. So about it, right?
I've never understood the holopads.
If you're going to let it happen, just let it happen.
Why does it have to be one person?
Why not just be anybody? I think it depends on, on on.
I don't know. I would say depends on
comfortability of, of the coupleand how secure they are in their
relationship, because most women, regardless of how long,

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like Nikki's still insecure for on some levels, right?
Well, she has no reason to be because she's beautiful.
She's she doesn't look at her age and neither one of us look
our age when people find out howold they're like, you're lying.
But I think it comes down to that.
It's just it's, it's, it's OK. What if that person's better,
right? You know what I mean?

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What if that person is is does something like does something
that you couldn't do, whatever that may be, right, because
everybody's different in in sizeshape, with girt, all that kind
of jazz and and their approach to things.
And I just I just think maybe it's that kind of situation that
people don't don't on a whole open up their marriage and say

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play time, you know, go have at it.
Where's if you have a hall pass,you kind of know, like you go to
Vegas, What happens to Vegas stays in Vegas, right?
Like she'll kill me. We were in Vegas years and years
ago and, and we were at the Coyote ugly bar and I convinced
her to take off the, the undergarments and dance on the
on the on the bar, you know, just in her skirt, right?
Was you know, that's what happens with tequila, right?

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But you see, my wife, you'd think there's no way in hell
like this is just this, this petite, nice little, you know,
we call her Mary Poppins. You know, nobody would thought
she's dancing on a bar in Vegas without any panties on, right.
So I think it's that kind of concept.
I could be wrong because I don'tI'm not in that world, but my we
have our our, you know, fairy tale, you know, like if Michelle

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Pfeiffer came knocking on my door, I'm I'm all over Michelle
Pfeiffer. Even today she still looks
freaking amazing. Johnny Depp would have to come
to the door dressed as Captain Jack and be full on character.
And it's like, OK, have fun, honey.
You know, here's that booty for you, Captain Jack.
So, so, so it's that kind of stuff I think is more of a

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playful, you know, I don't know how, I don't know how to
explain. It I think you said it best.
I think it, I think it depends on each unique situation because
one thing I make very clear to anybody I'm in a relationship
with upfront is you can be nervous or not nervous all you
want, but that's all wasted energy because I will never

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cheat on you. I have my reasons for that.
But I can 100%, a million percent guarantee you in this
lifetime that will never happen.So we can move on from there and
say if you think that person's attractive, that's human nature,
right? Yeah.
The whole jealousy thing about this person's attractive or this

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person's not attractive, especially when it's a
celebrity, the odds of you ever meeting them are astronomical
anyway, right? So it definitely depends on the
situation, but I think that as two grown adults, if you're in a
relationship, you should know that the others not going to
stray. Right.
But I think with women, I think it's more prevalent with women

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than is with men because women get.
Burned a lot, 1,000,000%. Right, So I think that's
understandable, right. So I think that's where the
hesitation may come with that is, is that that well, if I give
him a hall pass like OK, Woody Harrelson, Robert Robert Redford
and Demi was it Demi Moore movieThe indecent proposal, right.
They, they, they structured the couple right as a rock solid

(41:12):
foundation couple and then this $1,000,000 back then life
changing him, his life changing regardless of the time, right.
With this one little caveat, right?
Right, and that that that put the relationship over the edge
and it you know, so I I think that's the thing, because Woody
Harrelson couldn't get out of his head that he allowed his
wife to go. You know, I had a cowboy named

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Robert Redford, you know, electric horseman, get that
reference there for us that are older.
But I think that's the thing right.
So from from I wouldn't I it's weird sounds going to sound
weird, but I am completely confident in my relationship by
my wife that that if Robert Redford knocked on the door said
here's $1,000,000 but I can haveyour wife for a night.
I'm like, honey, Robert's here, you know?

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We'll pick this up tomorrow, right?
You know, but I think that's thedynamic that some people there's
they're the insecurities, the insecurities to me and the, and
the jealousies is what destroys relationships more than
anything. Well, here's where people leave
my conversation. Every time.
For at least 200,000 years we were anything but monogamist,

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right? This is a fairly new thing in
recorded history, probably within the last 200 years as a
known practice right? Where people do it all the time
without practicing any kind of polygamy or multiple wives
situation. Or.
Whatever their ideology was. So my wife, actually, she's got

(42:47):
a forever hall pass and that's because when I my first wife,
who is now married to my then best friend who would come over
and clean out the pipes while I was gone.
This will be a short cleaning the pipes.

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Yeah, and so my wife had a riverhall pass it.
I don't care whatever. You just have to be 100% honest
with me, tell me everything. It's fine.
I don't care. Whatever.
Now she has never used it but. OK.

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It's I I told her that when we first got together because I
have known so many women and I think women cheat on men more
than men cheat on women. I, yeah, I, I, I just, it's just
not as commonly recognized, right?
Because, of course, the guy. Is going to scream that you get

(43:51):
cheats on. Cheated on isn't going to tell
the world. Although I did have a guy I knew
he he would tell everybody why he got a divorce and he'd just
be like well it's because me andmy wife had too much in common.
We both like girls, so like. What?
Yeah, and, and see, the other thing is with men and women,
women can get laid like that. It does not matter.

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A woman can walk into a bar in 10 minutes, walk out with
whoever she wants and go back towherever they're going and get
naked and have fun. Where a guy it's.
Provided she's reasonably attractive.
Well, yeah, I mean, depends on the time of the if you're in the
bar reasonably. I know I got it, I got it.
But I I just and I think with men there's because women always

(44:36):
think when you like, OK, so I'm in the Rotary Club in Mesa,
right? So that's we about about 80 of
us, right? I have no problem approaching
the male member say, hey, let's go to lunch, get to know each
other better, right? Because Rotary Club, you come in
10 minutes before it starts, youkind of can chit chat, but you
don't really get to know somebody, right?
Like Lloyd, if you were in Rotary Club, I'd be like, Lloyd,
let's go to lunch. You know, let's go to lunch next
week so I can get to know you more.
And we, we talk for an hour and eat food and, you know, break

(44:58):
bread, right. But approaching the women in the
group, there's automatically that weirdness, right?
How come I just? Being a Rotary Club.
Because you're not in Arizona, man.
You can join the Rotary Club in Illinois.
Lloyd But you said? All right, Well, because I
already know you. I don't know, Lloyd, man.
I'm knowing Lloyd. I've known you for years.
But you see what I'm saying? I know.
But if so, if I approached, if Iapproached Susan, this woman in

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the group, that's super nice lady.
If I approached her and said, hey, Susan, let's go to lunch
right away, regardless of how much she knows me and knows my
character, she's going to have that thing in the back of her
head. Why does he want to take me to
lunch? 100%?
So that's the difference. Between men and women, and
rightfully so. Yes, yes.
Because ingrained into our DNA, yes, especially from the female

(45:41):
perspective, is. Absolutely.
There was thousands of years of raping and pillaging, right?
Yep. Even if it's never happened to
you, it's ingrained into our DNA.
There's a lot of things about human nature that we don't
understand as a modern society because our life has been easy
for at least the last 50 years. We've had right central air

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conditioning, central heating, We've had food brought to our
town. Nobody's had to starve to death
for any reason for a long time, provided you know, you're not in
some unique situation. I know there's unique
situations, but in America that percentage is very low.
So all the sudden we have all these weird problems that we

(46:24):
invent because we're not out looking for food.
And all I'm saying is those women, even if they don't know
it, that's why they feel that way.
He's not wrong. Yeah, I.
Understand that, but I will say I think it's kind of funny that
the whole toxic masculinity has gone off the table.

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Nobody's talking about how there's many equal rights for
women. Wherever people are talking
about, there might be another warrant, a draft.
No, and it goes, I'm not saying it doesn't go the any other
direction. It's just like, that's the
reason I think the whole, you know, conservative conservatives
and liberals is bullshit becausethere's good on one side and

(47:07):
good on the other in everything.You know, you can't choose an
ideology in anything or to choose A-Team, man or woman.
It's like the reason Chris's marriage has worked for 30 years
is obviously because they make agood team.
Yeah. Without that, it just wouldn't
succeed. You know, there's a reason that
that works. There's a reason he doesn't

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stray and she doesn't stray because together they've
accomplished a better life year over year.
Right. I mean, you've got to be pretty
good together if you're going togo paddle boarding, right?
I'm not doing that. So my wife and I, we went
kayaking. Got.

(47:48):
A2 feet or kayak and I sit thereand I told her, I said are you
going to paddle? And she said, well, yeah, is
that are you going to paddle correctly?
She said, yeah, I promise. See.
Yeah, I can't. I can't do that.
We have. I'm going to move my camera so
you can see them. We have two paddleboards right

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there. Badass.
So we each, we each have whoops,hello, we each have one.
And then we just, this is like our third time out.
It's a, it's a we're runners by by just since 2014, we've been
nothing but running and running probably 60 half marathons.
But Mike and I have this fun little thing in common called
the degenerating invertebrate inher neck.

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We were training for the Marine Corps Marathon.
That's in October last year or the year before.
I was in a nice last year. I was in AI found out I had a
stress fraction, my right secondmetatarsal, my right foot.
So I was in a boot for eight months.
So that derailed all the running.
I still worked out, still did cardio, still did upper body
core, everything. But then once I started running

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again, being in the boot so long, it shifted my, my spine a
little bit. And then all of a sudden I
started having pain again. And you know, Long story short,
not running at all really right now, still working out and
stuff. But then she's like, oh, we
should paddle board. I'm like, what the fuck is
paddle boarding, man? It's actually cool because it's
I'm all about what can we do that isn't just sitting in a

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movie twiddling our thumbs because you go to a movie, what
do you do? You watch the movie, you're not
talking to the person next to you, except before the movie and
after. Paddle boarding is cool in the
sense that that we both have enough core strength.
We can stand up and paddle. Like I can hold a 9 1/2 minute
plank, she can hold about a 4 minute plank, which which is,
you know, amazing for for anyoneand you anything over 3 minutes,

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like you're rock solid. But like Kenny Lake this
morning, there was maybe 30 people out there, so it was just
her and I cruising along. And, you know, you're only after
about an hour because, again, we're standing up and you're
rowing, you know, and so you're working the shoulders, you're
working the back, the lats, the core, you engage the core the

(49:57):
whole time. So it essentially the work.
I did like 850 calories somewhere on that just in the
hour and 6 minutes paddle boarding.
That's just insane. Yeah.
So I look at things. What's that?
How long is America? 26.2 miles, half marathon is
13.10 I. Did 1/4 I thought.
So my half marathon time, the last one I ran before I knew I

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was broke and I did an hour and 48 minutes and my goal was to
get to 130. So I had the baby step it down.
So my next one I ran was the Vegas half and that was that
Target was 145. When I hit mile 5I planted my
foot and I'm like, so every stepjust Ouch, Ouch, Ouch.
Still finished in a two hours because runners are stupid.

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But that was the last one I ran because it just then it just, it
just got worse and worse and worse.
So before that we probably we baby stepped away into running
in 2015. Once I had my next surgery,
original next surgery was cleared everything We started
doing 5 KS and then the five KS led to to 10 KS 10 KS led to a
couple 15 KS and that led, OK, let's do a half marathon.

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And then we did that and we only, we only ran when we
trained for that one up to 10 miles.
She forgot to tell me about the the wall of the 11th mile.
Kid you not this race, they had a fucking wall pull up wall at
mile 11. Welcome to the wall.
And by the time you got to the wall, you were just I'm never

(51:27):
running again. I'm never doing this again.
There's no way in hell you're going to get me running another
half marathon. And then I thought, well, if we
just over train, if we go past the 13 miles in training, then
it'll be that much better of a run because in your head you're
going further than you're actually running, right?
So then it just became my, my addiction because Alcoholics do

(51:48):
what, when they stop drinking, find another addiction.
So it just became my thing. And then, you know, that was,
this is so basically nine years of running, 5 KS, 10 KS, 15 KS,
half marathon. She did one marathon.
This was going to be her second one in October.
Marine Corps Marathon is something to do every year, and

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this year it's only the full marathon because it's the
anniversary. So I'm kind of bummed that I
just physically can't do it. It sucks so.
I can walk one. Yeah, I could probably walk one
too. We, we wanted, I wanted to do 1
when COVID hit because I thoughtI was in really good shape then,
but then everything got shut down in a couple years after

(52:29):
COVID hit. I was even better shape.
And then I went through two cycles of 75 hard.
And I'm like, this is going to be nothing for me to do a half
or to do a full. But we couldn't find a full that
I could train for in Arizona. It's hard to train in the
summer, right? It's so freaking hot.
So it just did nothing lined up.And then I realized I was
running out of broken stress fracture for two years.

(52:51):
And it's just like, OK, it's just this is just the scientists
to kind of just chill out, stop real things back a little bit.
And, you know, I mean, I was 52 years old, and I ran
back-to-back miles at 5 minutes,55 seconds, which is unheard of
for the most part, you know? But enough about me.
Why? Like it's interesting.

(53:12):
I'm sitting here and look forward to you, which I will
never do because I don't run. Like I I can run from the end of
B terminal in Denver, catch a train and make it to the A
terminal in 10 minutes and 32 seconds, which is almost too
long, but yeah, OK. Like I can run from the end of

(53:34):
Chicago to the other end of Chicago.
I can run from Houston. I've done Newark.
I can. I run in airports.
I don't. Run for like OK I can.
I can walk. All right there with you, man.
There's no point in it like, although I was kind of buttered
the other day. Well, in his case it was a

(53:55):
meditative thing. Yeah, yeah, that was part of it
because I, I, I that's how I would get into my head and, and
purge the demons and shit and whatever, whatever kind of
bullshit I was, I was, you know,dealing with.
It's, it's how I would it's how I would kind of deal with it
and, and just work through it. It wasn't necessarily, Oh, this
is, you know, this is it. It was therapeutic.

(54:17):
Like Mike said, it's just how I dealt with shit and how it, it,
it, it made me if I was having like my job's really, really
stressful selling houses, so much so I had AI sold the house
to a hostage negotiator in Maricopa County.
And and he told me when all is said and done, like he wouldn't
want my job for anything. Like he talks right, and he
talks people off buildings. And so when, when that's the

(54:42):
thing, when I have, I'm one of those Realtors that one of those
people in general that if I havebad news to share with a client,
whether it's by or cello, I don't sleep on it.
I tell them. So part of how I would frame,
how I would approach whatever bad news I had to share was I'd
go run, I'd get up in the morning, I'd go run 3 miles
every day just to kind of start the day off, You know, drop
little man off at school, come home, take off 3 miles, come

(55:05):
back half an hour later, day's good, eat some food.
Now I'm ready to rock'n'roll, right?
And it would just clear the mindand get everything going, get
the blood pump and get the the creative Judy.
Because I also would think I runwith music.
But I think about, oh, I could do this marketing idea.
I could do this kind of campaign.
I could do these kind of videos,you know, thoughts pop in my
head and then you. Run for the same reason I play.
Yeah, yeah, basically. Then Lloyd, Lloyd visits.

(55:29):
Lloyd visits adult resorts and videotapes their their lack of
comforters, you know, for his therapy.
The comforter's got to be thick for me.
I know, I know, dude, I too likeNikki watched that with me and
she's like, oh, oh, there's I would never go to a hotel with
if they didn't have a comforter and I'm the same way.
It's like you got to have you got to have the comforter, man,

(55:50):
yes, Like that's the cocoon you wrap in, right?
Agree. You know, it's got, I think it's
the weight though. I think the weight true.
I agree with that. And I'm like, I like having the,
I will totally drop that air conditioner down to like 60.
So when I wake up, it's like, yeah -900 in there.

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But I'm not posting the comforter.
Yeah, it's. For I do the same.
Get my money's worth and I'm comfortable.
Yep, I would say that my out is windshield time just.
Driving. Yeah, I I can solve world's
problems. I like I my favorite thing to do

(56:32):
is I come up with business plans.
And. I will get an idea because you
know, everything in life has like 5 stages.
It's a dreamer, a planner, a doer, and an executor kind of
deal. And there's an evaluation that
gets fed in between all of that.Sure.

(56:54):
I have a thought and then I determine whether that thought
is stupid. And then I mean, and then I try
to like blow it up and see if it's worth a day.
And usually I spend way, way, way too many miles and I blow it
up and try to find a way out of it and what can go wrong and

(57:18):
everything. Because, you know, I, I've had
some really great ideas that have gone really bad.
Like I, I was doing consulting for doing construction
consulting, like you deal in real estate.
So if you've got a guy who he wants to develop a, you know, a

(57:38):
$50 million assisted living for old folks.
People. And he has no idea about
construction. He's going to hire a contractor
and architect, the architects and the contractors, they're
going to get paid for the building no matter what.
And then they're out in a year. But he wants to make sure it's

(57:58):
right in longevity and all that stuff.
So they would call me, I would come in and I would be
essentially the owner Rep and basically help them weed through
the regulatory hurdles. And I was doing great, loved it.
I worked like maybe 10 days a month.

(58:18):
I was making good money. I was, I was really just having
a great time. And the good thing was, I
actually was doing so good I gotbored.
Oh. I well it's a good thing I
bought another in my truck because I was in before of an LO
8 and so I got bored and I bought another truck.

(58:42):
OK, Then I bought another truck and then I bought another truck.
Wow. Then 2020 happened and there's
no more construction there's no more investment going on and I'm
like, oh crap, I ain't making nomoney.
So I went back. I mean, I was already trucking,
so I just did that pretty well full time.

(59:03):
So we. Spammed it down, loaded up and
trucking. We're going to do what they say
can't be done. Like a long way to go get there,
no? Not my favorite Chrome.
My favorite chicken lights and Chrome.
Is what is it? Chicken lights and Chrome.
OK, right on, Right on. That's a pretty good one, but.
Hell of a guitar player. I did that and then my

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backtracking, well, then I endedup leasing on with a different
company and in April, actually we did it in March.
And then the company I was on with, they, we got another
driver. He went through all their
process and everything, got approved, drove for two weeks

(59:47):
and then he ended up tearing up one of the trucks, dumped 300
gallons of diesel into a protected waterway.
Oh. Oh that that wrecker and clean
up was super expensive. Like.
And then I found out that he wasn't even on the insurance and

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they weren't going to cover anything.
Oh no. Damn.
And. How many trucks did you have at
the time? Do you have 5 trucks for an
account? Right, Three.
OK. And so he wasn't on the
insurance and it would, it just went downhill.
Ended up having to sue him one in arbitration, but then they
appealed and it was in April of 2021.

(01:00:34):
We're still waiting. Waiting still.
Oh, yeah. So they spend more on lawyers
than it would have cost in the beginning, but that's fine.
Yeah, they almost got me, honestly, because like they that

(01:00:54):
happened in May. I ended up going and starting
doing this delivering trucks deal about a month.
Well, that happened in April. I started doing the delivering
trucks deal in May and then justkept going and kept going and
all I was doing was basically paying the legal fees paying my
lawyer. Lawyer was making like 5000 a

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month for the first six months. Don't know.
Oh, it's. We're in.
We're in the long run of work. Oh yes, for sure.
And then my wife got cancer in October of that year.
What kind of cancer did she have?
She had breast cancer, so. She got.
Me whacked off and rebuilt and now they're out to here and

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she's got a flat tummy and I love life and.
And a clean bill of health. Oh.
Yeah. Oh, that's awesome.
Glad to hear. So she's actually drive back
from Louisiana now. So but the yeah, that was a that
was kind of a rough time. We actually ended up losing our
house, which was kind of a blessing because we had a four

(01:01:57):
bedroom house with we're rentingit and it was just us too.
So we really didn't need all that much.
Like we had a flood in the houseand we ended up moving into like
a portion of it in the back three bedrooms kind of deal.
And then we ended up there was other issues and we ended up

(01:02:19):
having to move out and we moved into a hotel room and stayed
there for like a month. And then we ended up getting
this RV, this fifth wheel. It's it's not like a 25 foot
camper. It's like a 43 footer with five
slides and two bedrooms and loft.
It's a bigot. So but Keller right for us and

(01:02:40):
we're we don't have to worry about it.
Web life and we're, it's like basically a lake house worst and
we're never here. Oh nice, right on.
That's cool. What's your wife do?
So she is a super duper badass. She had.
Business cards like like, like, what's his face hat in Pulp
Fiction? The wallet's a bad motherfucker.

(01:03:04):
What's yours? These are CCT paramedic to doing
dispatch, emergency medical dispatch.
And then she ended up being the supervisor for that company for
a good chunk of the state of Texas.

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And then she got to be the and she was the dispatch supervisor
and then she got to be the EMD instructor for the entire
company. So she trains all the new
dispatchers. Wow.
Then she got hired on to the International Academy, so now
she's actually going and training dispatchers all over

(01:03:47):
North America, right? On we need.
To talk to her too. Yeah, that would be fun.
Oh, like she's, I don't know that she would be down for
sharing stories. Well.
Yeah, I know because she's stillin the business.
I get it. Well, no, no such as that.

(01:04:08):
So like you get people who they do tell stories and that's their
form. So like back when I was I was
riding a fire truck kind of dealbecause that's how we met.
We met and she was holding C spine with a car that was
hanging off the side of a branchand I was cutting the door off
of it. Wow, right.
You, you get this box that you put that stuff in and you don't

(01:04:31):
bring it out. So like for her, everybody
lives, everybody's going to havethis.
She's continued that story. It plays out and it's wonderful.
She'll actually lie to her people and tell her, Oh yeah,
they're fine, good job. Kind of different question when
something's bugging them. I mean, not all the time for

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some that you'll be honest with them, like if they take a call
and then it's going to make the news, she's honest with them.
No, that totally makes sense. Yeah, but then like, like it's
actually been on Cops twice. Oh, no shit.
Yeah, that's awesome. The cop that I mentioned
earlier, the the hostage negotiator, he he transitioned
into human remains. So he, he's retired now, but he

(01:05:13):
still kind of pursues that because in his, in his mind,
his, his, his focus on it is every, everybody, just
everybody, not 2 these two wordsdeserves a name.
So he actually, they, it's stillcold case files, all that kind
of stuff, but they'll actually, they try to put a name to the
remains that they come across, which is.
That's awesome, which is huge for the family.

(01:05:35):
Right, absolutely, absolutely. So I but I get that.
I get that because his because he he he has a foundation he
created. I forget what's called Tom my
head, but it's all about the PTSD because you can't as
firefighters and police officers, you're not allowed to
talk. You're not allowed to share the
chaos and what you're dealing with.
Like one of my one of my past friends was a was a captain from

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fire department and they would leave a scene that was
completely traumatic, right? You know, blown somebody, blew
their brains out, blood over thewalls, you know, just total,
absolute chaos and just, you know, they would walk out of the
house. What what are the situation?
Get back to the station. You good?
Yeah, I'm good. You good?
Yeah, I'm good. That was it.
That was the extent of the conversation.
So that's why there's so much suicide, right?

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And those in the first responders world because they
don't they've been conditioned not to talk about it.
You're weak if you talk about it.
You're weak if you say that affected me and and.
So isn't that what Peter from Australia said too?
That same. Kind of that's kind.
Of where he had he lost his edgeis kind of the way he described
it, because he had a traumatic event in his life that brought

(01:06:38):
all that to the forefront of hismind at the same time.
So imagine that. Yeah, they don't process it.
So I can see why your wife approaches it like that.
Because you, you how else are you going to cope, right?
I mean, if you if you fail to resuscitate a 2 year old child
that you pulled out of a pool, how do you carry that shit with
you the rest of the day, let alone the rest of your life if

(01:06:59):
you don't have a way? It takes a special kind of
human, and I'm glad they're out there because I'm not that
special human in that department, you know?
Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, but that's, but that was thething with him that he started
his foundation about it was it was, it was a A1800 number for
officers that just didn't know how to cope, but they could call
it. And then they would work within

(01:07:19):
24 hours to get them placement anonymously and kind of help
them start working through theirproblems and their chaos.
Because again, too many of the first responders take their own
lives because they don't know how to deal and they don't have
an outlet to purge it. I've been through therapy.
And if you, if you don't, if youdon't purge the chaos, man, it
just, it just buries and builds inside you until one of you just
going to go. I agree.

(01:07:39):
Don't explode. So I'll.
Give you a little food for thought on that.
So you you, you said firefighters and cops, right?
Yep. You know most EMS is ran by
third party companies and paramedics and basics who run
them aren't department. Right.
Oh yeah? Well, that's why I said first
responders too. They they never get very much

(01:08:01):
acknowledgeable and there's no support for it, but you know,
there is absolutely no support for it.
Dispatchers, the dispatchers on the trying to tell someone how
to help the other person and on the phone while they're
screaming and talking about how their loved one is dying and
they can't do a Dang thing aboutit except sit there and go

(01:08:26):
through this script and OK, check this box, what about this?
OK, and relay the information and be like, they're still 10
1/2 minutes away. I'm going to need to go ahead
and continue doing chest compressions, OK?
No, you're going to have to pullthem up.
And I don't stop doing it and then click, yeah, that's it.

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And you never know the end of the story.
And it's just like. I couldn't do that shit, dude.
That would drive me. That's.
Like that old shaving her got Dick Dick then.
Yeah, you're shaving her got 2 bits.
Yeah, I couldn't. You hear the most horrific part
of the story and never the end. Right, Yeah, I mean, don't get
me wrong. There's there's I've actually

(01:09:09):
sit there and and brought her tolunch kind of deal and listen to
some of those calls. And I come from that background.
So I understand it, but there are calls that she'll get that
are just so she has to be professional.
Like think about it. I'm not going to say this is or

(01:09:30):
is not in one of them. So but think about the the
dispatcher who takes the call ofthe guy who slipped and fell in
a soap bottle in the shower. Yeah.
Right, you know they want to laugh.
Yeah, yeah. Really.
Yeah. Like, you know, there's
something going on. I'll.

(01:09:50):
Tell you the best one I ever heard Lloyd was and it's on
YouTube. If if I knew the name of the
clip, I would say it so people could go find it.
But there's two cops that stole the weed from the teenagers that
they busted. It was a husband and wife.
They were both cops. They took it home, obviously,
they smoked the weed. They called 911 because they
thought they were dying and. The dispatcher knew.

(01:10:14):
Exactly what was going on. And to your point, she never
laughed, but she had such a sense of humor about it because
she never said she never had anykind of sense of urgency.
You know, it was just like, yeah, OK, we'll get somebody
right out there. And, you know, the guy just kept
saying, I'm pretty sure we're dying.
Send them fast. And finally, she said, you may

(01:10:35):
think you're dying, but you're not dying.
You know, just relax. Just take a deep breath.
Listen to yourself breathing. I I will say I have never done
any drugs whatsoever. That's surprising because you're
a truck driver. And I know, and I know it's a
stereotype, but truck drivers ona whole, right, Because they're

(01:10:58):
long hours and shit, they all kind of, I'm not going to say
all. OK, let me ask him this then.
Is that an old stereotype or is that still fairly?
Proud. That was an old stereotype.
Really like it is my bad. I'm sorry.
No, no, no it. No, it was and back when we were
young that was, you know, that was occurs in cocaine.

(01:11:19):
Yeah, OK. Now, no, these trucks literally
drive themselves like the the one that I I'm in right now, it
does 70 miles an hour on the cruise control.
It has lane disks, so you, you just have to hold your hands on
the wheel. It will stay in a lane.
If a car slows down in front of you, it slows down.

(01:11:40):
If it knows there's a curve ahead, it slows down.
If that senses that the speed limit changes, it slows down.
If it senses there's an obstruction in the roadway, it
slows down. That's crazy, I see more guys
watching porn going down the road.
Oh no shit, have a. Towel on their head.

(01:12:01):
That's the new addiction. Wow.
See, there was there was an accident in Phoenix not too long
ago on on our our our street from our highway from the street
from Tucson to Phoenix truck driver head on collision that
chaos man. I don't know if four or five
people died. Explosion shut the the highway
down for hours and hours and hours.
It came back. It was on TikTok now it makes

(01:12:23):
sense because I didn't. Nobody says the screen.
I just thought he was on his phone on TikTok and but I didn't
know why would I know the truckswere automatic driving.
Well, OK, they're not technically, they just have.
Something. I get what you're saying.
Yeah, I get what you're saying. But they're they're pretty.
It could have been something like.
It could have been something like that.

(01:12:44):
Like you said though, like rightwhere where it's so automated,
he's just zoned out and watchingReels on TikTok and then you
know. Yeah, and just pass the time
away because you literally have to sit there and you've got a
log book that's electronic. Now.
Now, granted, I don't have to deal with that stuff because I'm
actually like, you can't put an ELD in a brand new truck being

(01:13:08):
delivered. So you just, it's basically like
paper logs, like old school. That's why I enjoy doing it.
But yeah, they've got it to where literally it every metric
is mapped out for you. And you have to stay driving for
however 8 hours. And then you stop for 30 minutes

(01:13:29):
and you got another 3 1/2 hours.But if your time runs out when
you're sitting on the side of the road, you're just stuck on
the side of the road for 10 hours.
The cop tells you to move it 9 hours and 53 minutes.
Then you're just screwed kind ofstuff.
And you got to bust your time. And everybody hates drivers.
And I would not do that. Ever.
You cannot. They try to hire me every time,

(01:13:51):
everywhere I go there. You want a job?
Nope. Do you ever ask him under these
circumstances, or they just can't violate those rules?
No, no, that's federal law. You can't.
That's what I thought. Those are dot standards, right?
Yeah, so the the mega carriers killed the industry.
And what? OK, so what's the mega carrier?
Because I don't understand what that is.

(01:14:12):
Swift. Swift, actually Swift Night
Swift. That's Med carrier.
They, they killed the industry initially.
They they were one of them. And they started trying to
essentially hire in any warm body that they could find and
they would run it through their training school and then they

(01:14:35):
got him in CDL and then sent himout on the road.
But they were self insured. So if they wrecked, it didn't
matter. OK, so because they were self
insured then it didn't matter tothem.
But then all the other trucking companies in the area who were
not self insured went. Their rates went up because

(01:14:56):
there's so many wrecks from all these swift drivers.
Oh. Yeah, OK.
Well, it gets worse, right. So and then in 2016 I believe it
was they started allowing, I believe it was the Obama
administration who allowed this for so they, they allowed for

(01:15:22):
H1B visas to be no, I'm sorry, Iremember it.
I may be confused. So it's either H1B visas or non
domicile CDLS were allowed to behired to all of these trucking
companies in the Obama administration, 2016 beginning I
believe and then 2021 they did either the H1B visa or the non

(01:15:50):
domicile CDI. Think that one was the non
domicile CDL that they would allow.
If you had an H1B visa and a nondomicile CDL, you could truck
throughout the country. It wasn't a big deal.
OK, How? Previously, if you were you had
an international driver's license out of Mexico, you could
drive up to Chicago, drop your load, turn around, pick up

(01:16:14):
something and take it back to Mexico.
OK. Well, you have to follow a
specific route. No, no.
OK. So but after they did that non
domicile CDL, you'd get a company that's based out of
Mexico that they'll have a USDOTnumber and then they'll have A1

(01:16:35):
truck registered in the US. So they're registered in both
countries. And then they'll take all those
Mexican drivers who have H1B visas and non domicile CDLS and
they'll do all this point to point transport.
Now Chicago, they mainly are ranby like the Russian mob kind of
deal and they use a lot of like Ukrainian essentially slaves

(01:17:01):
that they bring them over as H1Bvisas and then get them non
domicile CDLS and then like I've.
Actually, you told me this is, Ithink you told me about this
when we talked, right? I might have it's it's it's
where. Where there the the cost of of
those drivers, what they charge is like next to nothing and it's
kind of destroying your industryon a whole.

(01:17:22):
It's a mile. Yeah, keep, keep going because
this. Is yeah, keep going, keep going.
I just, it's just yeah, it's just, it's just.
I remembered that conversation. But yeah, keep explaining
please. Yeah.
So they they got all these guys coming in and they're just
flooding the industry. Well, so now they've got all
these different trucking companies and these different
entities that are like 1020 trucks what or whatnot leasing

(01:17:45):
all these trucks and they're putting these drivers in them.
And then once they smoke out ADOT number, they just move all
those drivers to another dot number.
So like what? Do you mean what do you mean
smoke it out? What do you mean smoke out?
The dot number ruin it to where the USDOT shuts them down.
Shuts, not the carrier. But they don't have any asset or

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they get a huge wreck and kill everybody.
So like the a couple of months ago there was a a guy from
Ethiopia and I don't know if you've seen Tik toks and reels
about truck drivers in Ethiopia.I'm not big on top.
Very good. That's because they're supposed

(01:18:28):
to run, man. Ethiopians are runners, dude.
They run like the marathons and,and the, you know, all that
shit. They're the ones that win the
Boston and New York Marathon. They're not.
They're not driving trucks. Apparently.
Well, he ran fast. He that guy literally had just
been given a ticket for like 55 miles an hour over the speed

(01:18:49):
limit. Oh God.
Gosh, two weeks, two or three weeks previous, hadn't gone to
court on it yet. And then he's doing like 85
miles an hour pulling an Amazon trailer, pops over a hill,
there's construction, never shuts it down and just plows
through a bunch of bars and kills 5.

(01:19:10):
And it was like holy cow. And they thought the dude was
intoxicated because he was just like he found very not all their
kind of deal. Turned out he was actually
completely sober. He was just a blooming idiot.
So. But those type of drivers have

(01:19:34):
infiltrated the truck driving industries and ruined it.
Now you get the a lot of the ones up in Chicago, they
actually have to have a lot of the loads.
They have a special insurance onthem because they'll hijack the
load in, ransom it and make really extra money for it to.

(01:19:56):
Explain how that works. Yeah, so.
They'll you'll get one of these companies that they'll catch the
load from a broker. And then they'll take it and
they'll be like, this load doesn't pay enough money.
They've already picked it up. Like we're not delivering it
unless you paid this money. Right.

(01:20:19):
Oh, and it may be 1/2 the value of the load kind of deal.
And then they'll sit there and sit on it.
And then finally they'll pay it out and they'll deliver it
because the customer needs it. Now let me ask you this Who are
they doing that to? Because they wouldn't do that to
a company like Amazon, would they?
No, they mainly do it to like actual brokerages.

(01:20:42):
Amazon isn't that big of I. I actually have hauled Amazon
freight. I hauled a trailer with one box
in it are. You kidding me?
Yeah, it was just literally. A full size trailer with one box
in it. One box, that was it.
It was. I went from San Marcus up to

(01:21:03):
Dallas, down to Houston and backover to San Marcus.
With a box. What was the box?
No, no, I was. Too curious?
Two of them weren't loaded, the other one was just.
It was just a box. Were you curious what was in the
box? I'd be like, what's in that box?
Man, but I felt like I felt like, you know, Tom Hanks and
that maybe kept way by the way, I actually but down the road

(01:21:27):
from where that box was supposedly delivered.
Yeah. From the movie that way.
Interesting. I thought it was fun.
Yeah, that's interesting. That's.
Coming. Yeah, there's a lot of problems
in the trucking industry. It's horrible.
So I would never advise anybody to be a truck driver ever.

(01:21:50):
OK. 'Cause I wasn't looking, I
wasn't looking to be a truck driver.
Are you sure? Does that make it not a viable
industry to make a living in anymore or as an owner?
Because you see all these ads that say, you know, come work
for us and make $4000 a week or whatever, 2 I might be

(01:22:15):
exaggerated. Maybe it's 2 grand a week.
That's the righteous bucks, though.
I I made in this week. I grossed out $7500 a week.
But are you working for yourself?
Are you an owner operator? I essentially go I'm under a
broker but but like $7500 roughly.

(01:22:39):
What did you pay the broker? Well, so they they actually, I
don't know when they get. Oh, so they'll take their cut
out of that 7500? Never know what they're charging
OK like this much like. Right.
Yeah, OK. But you still, you're still not
you're, you're still going to make and you don't have to
answer that, but you're still going to make at least half of
that that you earned. Yeah, no, I probably I, I, I

(01:23:01):
will clear after everything. I'll clear about 1500.
OK, Oh, that's a drag. Taxes and everything.
Well that now to granted there are other expenses on my taxes
for things. OK, I mean I like I have video
equipment that I have to use to make my YouTube videos.

(01:23:24):
Oh yes, this is true for. Sure.
Yeah, yeah, different things. My flights I have to pay for my
club membership. You got to pay for the flights.
They don't pay for your flights.Well, no, I mean I have to pay
for all of it all the time, like.
Well, I don't know, that's why Iasked.
Yeah, but we use when you try towork in like all the fuel.
I pay for all the fuel Ubers. I had to pay for wreckers to

(01:23:48):
undeck them, which just basically some like crane dough
pick off the back of it. Yeah, all that comes into play.
Got to pay for it and then lateron if I get claims like I had
one that the there was a thing rubbing on the back of the cab,

(01:24:09):
so the back of the cab's got to be repainted.
So that's going to cost me $1000down the road kind of deal,
right? And I pay insurance thing for it
but still all that. It's.
Not the most. That's what I was going to say.
So it's not the most lucrative thing in the world, but you
consistently are working for themost part.

(01:24:30):
And because you don't have a massive overhead now because of
how you adjusted your lifestyle,you know?
We do OK and like we end up doing our like granted trying to
make my my YouTube channel actually profitable.
While you're yeah, yeah out there, Yeah, so do you.

(01:24:51):
Are you dropping shorts every day?
No. OK, so this is so this is we got
about we got about what are we at?
We're at here. We got about 5-6 minutes left, 5
minutes left. So some, some some things that
cause I've had my real estate used YouTube channel for over 20
years. OK, so in perspective, I'm at
about half a million views and Ihave almost 2000 videos.

(01:25:11):
OK, our show, we have a hundred 107 videos and then we started.
Up 300 and something. OK, and and that's because of
shorts. So in March I started dropping
shorts Lloyd twice a day. OK, every day, twice a day.
I'm my shorts are still loading,are still going till I think I'm
in at the end of July now. OK, that alone has drawn massive

(01:25:35):
attention because I'm using Dave.
Remember who Dave is to give me my SEO content, my hashtags, my
keywords. I plan them out consistently
every day at 10:00 AM and 4:00 PM.
You can go to our channel and see a new short drop.
Days of the show, I'm sorry, 6:00 AM and 4:00 PM days of the
show, they're shorts at six AM, 4:00 PM, but then the show
actually drops at 10 AM. So Wednesdays and Sundays

(01:25:57):
there's three video droppings. Every other day of the week
there's two dropping. Then I'm trying to get in the
habit of dropping a short 1/3 short the day before each show
announcing who's coming on tomorrow to the show.
OK, that alone has really has taken us from the first year
where you're on doing this. It was 1 to 28,000 and three
months like Mike we talked aboutearlier.

(01:26:18):
We jumped from 28,000 to 100,000views.
Our subscribers are still under 100, but they're still watching
it, which makes it more relevantwith the Google spiders and
stuff that goes on the Internet.So if you start doing something
like that, shorts are 3045, sixty second clips.
If you start consistently dropping something every day, a
couple times a day, and schedulethem out like I've been doing, I

(01:26:41):
think you'll see a lot more growth with your thing.
And then obviously get on some on social media platforms that
go with content traders and go with podcast, which is how I
found you on one of the podcast pages, right?
That that helped us because we're doing it all organically.
We're not spending money to growour stuff.
Yeah, luckily for him, I watchedthe numbers like a hawk.

(01:27:02):
I just didn't see is the he didn't even know what he was
doing. He just, he was trying an idea
like you said, you know, being creative, you try ideas, a lot
of them failed. That's what people don't
understand is creative minds. You had 100 bad ideas before you
came up with that one that finally the light bulb, you were
able to work it all the way through.

(01:27:23):
I do the same thing as you. I look for all the angles that
are going to destroy this idea, right?
And sometimes I find it real quick.
Sometimes it takes me days, months, weeks, years, whatever.
But I like that analogy because I kind of do the same thing.
What I started seeing was his consistency drew attention to

(01:27:45):
the algorithm that YouTube uses,right?
So all the sudden we were in front of people that we normally
otherwise would not have been right.
Right, and we've grown from a podcast standpoint.
We're #3 in Phoenix now. We were in the top ten about six
months into it. But we, we broke the top three,
I think a couple months ago under the arts and entertainment
category because let's face it, that's what podcasts are.

(01:28:08):
But that's pretty cool to have dropped poked the top three.
And in that same amount of time,we went from like just the
United States and Japan, becausehis son was stationed in Japan
at the time, to 2 count. We went from two countries to 19
countries with that consistency,doing it all the time.
Yeah, which is cool. So I, I have shorts, OK, yeah,

(01:28:32):
I, I don't drop them that often.We do them on our big resort
stays and but I don't necessarily do them on the
little ones because of the fact of how I have to do the filming
and things. It can but see a short dude, a
short dude can be anything. Just like with my what I've
learned from our podcast, I'm taking over to my real estate

(01:28:54):
guy 1. So I started my own moment with
the real estate guy podcast on my page because I'd like why
not? So I in order to do shorts on
this kind of platform, I got to record 5 minutes.
So I'm going to have a couple industry guests on so I can
start getting shorts together. But a short can be you walking.
It can be. It doesn't have to necessarily
be just about what your content is.

(01:29:15):
People will, will, will gravitate to you as an
individual more than it will as a business.
So you could, you could when youhave your trucks on trucks on
trucks on trucks, that could be a 32nd short man today I'm going
look at all these whatever you're hauling.
I'm this is where I'm going today.
Something you see funny on the road.
You look at this crap. You know, this guy's got the

(01:29:35):
hood over his thing driving his truck.
He's you know what I mean? Stuff like that.
Keeps people coming. Back it keeps them engaged so.
Right, back to your main message.
First, I kind of wondered what he was doing because we're
trying to push a podcast. But what we?
But what I noticed was that doesexactly that.
You know, people see that 45 seconds, and they want to hear

(01:29:57):
what the end of the story is. That's human nature.
I would too, right? You would, too, if it's
something you're interested in. You're like, hey, man, I want to
know the end of this. Well, luckily for us, Chris has
a link to all that stuff at the end.
Here's the episode. Right.
Yeah. So.
Check out the shorts that I haveover on Room by the Hour on
YouTube. That's what I'm saying, but

(01:30:19):
that's what I'm saying. Do that and do little teasers.
Hey, next month and really it can be sitting in front of your
camera like this where you're atnow.
Hey, next month, check it out. We're going to go to this place
and this place you're going to want to check, you want to, you
know, TuneIn to see what these resorts are about.
You know, when you get there, you just film yourself walking
up to the resort for 20 seconds.That's a short, man.
You drop the short. So that way as you go through

(01:30:42):
your editing process, a filming process, every day, you're just
dropping these little teasers. Because like money buddy, if I
watch that now, I want to see the rest of it, right?
Yes, that's the whole point. I'm sure I didn't.
I didn't know it dude. I didn't realize it till we
started. I started doing it with this and
then and then Mike started telling me numbers and I was
like, oh light bulb Bing. This actually drives people and

(01:31:04):
keeps this relevant on somethingbecause seriously three months
almost 70,000 views is insane Ifyou know advertising right, If
you compare it to my business page, which is half a million
views in over 20 years and I have serious cut.
I was on the radio for a year. I had five videos every time an
episode dropped on the radio. I ran good news Arizona for 106

(01:31:25):
episodes, which had three to four videos every single episode
that aired. I was on American Dream TV.
Google that it's a whole real estate platform that based out
of California. I I and I make videos on my HUD
houses. I mean, I just, I have an
unlimited amount of playlists. I have so much content, it's
insane that I only have 500,000 views in over 20 years.
So if you do these little things, I think you'll see a

(01:31:47):
growth. So I'm at like roughly about,
I'm going to say 350,000 years. That's three.
Years. See, that's fantastic, man.
Like that's the thing. I I made a mistake somewhere
along the lines with mine, but with this growing as quick as it

(01:32:09):
is and yeah, he's. Averaging 100,000 views a year.
That's good. Yeah, so I would you start
dropping shorts. I think your number's going to
go up, man. Yeah, you're.
Going to start to go up like threefold to begin with and then
that will take itself off. Yeah.
So I'll be honest, I'm, I'm actually kind of holding back
from that right now, OK. We're done.
You're, you're so I had a friendand he had, he started a YouTube

(01:32:35):
channel and he, his second videowent viral and he was instantly
monetized. And his second video was
absolutely stupid. It was nothing that he wanted to
make this part about or his channel about.
And then everybody was like, anyway, where's that?

(01:32:56):
Where's the content? Where's the stuff?
And it ended up like mentally breaking the dude because he
didn't have a back story, he didn't have a.
History. Yeah, OK.
And so I kind of told myself like, I'm not going to try to do
anything to really blow this up.OK, Well, after I can get

(01:33:18):
content and I get a following itthat way, you can go back and
you can see that my first videossuck.
My first video. Trust.
Us of like the the the intro video is horrible because I'm
literally talking about the methI found in the coffee pot in
Econo Lodge in London, KY. Oh God.

(01:33:40):
Oh is it I? I've had many, many wonderful
experiences in hotels. I love it, don't get me wrong.
I've I've had to make my own bedbefore.
Yeah. I've had to be like, Nope, I've
had one hotel in Ohio that I I finally got a room on the third
try kind of deal like that was that was fun.

(01:34:04):
But yeah, no, I I'm so the reason I was dabbling in the AI
editors and stuff was because I was going to try to just
basically feed it into there andlet it drop them for me.
But I haven't found one that I liked because they all suck.
So even when you pay for it. I like this one.

(01:34:24):
Riverside actually does a reallynice job.
All the shorts that you see are pretty much theirs.
I cut a few of them up myself, but probably 98% of them are the
ones that they did automaticallyfor me.
I just tell them how long I wantit to be and then Chris puts
them on a schedule. So you know this, we do pay for

(01:34:47):
this, but I got to give them credit.
They've they've made huge improvements in the year.
Well, almost two years we've used them.
They do a really nice job. Yeah, yeah, they do for sure.
We're. Going to wrap up, wrap the heat,
but we're going to wrap it to you wrap the show up.
That's all folks. That's all folks.
So yeah, go go ahead, Lloyd, plug yourself.

(01:35:10):
Yes, please. Give yourself a plug.
So room of the hour on YouTube, it's a value based Travel
Channel to where we look at how much it actually costs to go on
a cruise or resorts or take a trip up to the northeast or stay
in Nashville for a weekend for the fun of it.
Or go to California or Vegas or do a flight across the country

(01:35:31):
with some dude who at 24,000,000miles or Cancun or yeah, you do
a lot of stuff. Me and the wife.
It's not about hooker hotels, but I stayed in the water.
Room by the Hour on YouTube, right?
Room by the hour on YouTube and we've always we always wrap our
show up with this. Don't let the bad days when if

(01:35:53):
you're feeling sad, depressed, lonely, you know, find somebody
to reach out to them because if you take your own life, you're
going to leave a hole in somebody's heart tomorrow.
Somebody does love you, even if you don't think they do.
So reach out to somebody, get some help, wake up tomorrow and
it'll be a better day because tomorrow is always a better day
than how you're feeling today. You can find us on Instagram,
Facebook, working on a on a website, as well as also YouTube

(01:36:15):
as we're streaming here live right now.
So those of you that watched hello until next time we'll see
you. Thanks for being on the show,
Lloyd. We appreciate your great
conversation, man. Let's.
Talk again. Thanks for coming on.
Nice meeting you, Lloyd. How?
Are you? All right, guys.
Have a great day. Love you brother.
Love you too brother. Bye bye.

(01:36:35):
We don't want to fly in this door for you.
Look the tablet. Go insane.
Feel the tears. Open your light on your journey.
Feel the trail behind your eyes.Feel yourself and need your

(01:37:05):
turn. Take a moment.
Look. Until you see it, what you say
on it. Oh yeah.

(01:38:39):
Come down here, we haven't foundthe almighty.
You got a dream. Who in your life, every day take

(01:39:11):
your turn behind your eyes, Feelthe soul revolution now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Take a moment. Listen to your tear.

(01:39:32):
Fight the battle with you more clear.

(01:40:01):
You gotta, you gotta. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.
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