July 27, 2025 • 51 mins
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In this engaging conversation, Leslie Hocker shares her journey as a business owner focused on anti-aging products. She discusses her innovative topical solutions that serve as natural alternatives to Botox and fillers, emphasizing the importance of healthy longevity.
The discussion delves into the science behind her products, personal experiences with aging, and the impact of lifestyle choices on health. Leslie also highlights the role of peptides and mindful eating in maintaining vitality, while encouraging listeners to embrace a proactive approach to their health and appearance.
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And we're live. Welcome ladies and gentlemen, on
the YouTube and the Twitch. Yes, welcome to the YouTube and
the Twitch show. Or not, you know.
We have some crazy people that actually watch this live now, so
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we're very thankful for them too, Renee.
We are, absolutely. So there you go.
Welcome, boys and girls, to the Christian.
Show we are. Live on YouTube, in which, as
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Mike just said, that we also have a guest on today, Leslie
Hocker. How are you, Leslie?
Hey, I'm great. It's great to be here.
It's good to be alive. It is.
Nice to meet you, Leslie. Thanks for coming on.
Absolutely. Above ground, right?
Yes, every day above ground is agreat day.
So we found you on one of the social media platforms, correct?
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I think so, yes. Yeah.
So give us a give us a little, which we do with everybody.
Give us a little 32nd elevator rundown of who you are, why
you're here, and what we're going to talk about today.
I am a business owner, entrepreneur, I love helping
people. I'm married, I've got 2 girls, 2
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grandkids and I am a big into hacking healthy longevity.
OK. So expand a little bit on, on
your business owner, entrepreneur, what, what's the,
what's the primary business you're focused on right now?
I am focused on an anti aging a natural alternative topical
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plant based to Botox and fillers.
Oh, OK, so you're. Like I'm a, I'm a No injections,
no. OK.
I appreciate that. Yeah, 'cause you never know
what's getting injected into you, right?
Even when. I say it's one thing, yeah, not
those. I've had that happen before I
was an athlete. But I have been surprised how
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many men actually are interestedin in doing something that's not
invasive for their face. Well, I think as, as we've
evolved as a society, right, andeverything's become so Google
friendly, right? The world has shrunk
dramatically that like my wife and I, we've had a, we've had a
lot of health folks on here, we've had a Wellness coach,
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we've had a fitness coach, somebody who's huge in the
peptides. But having all that, you, you
have the ability to research things more than you did in the
past. So that only makes sense that
those that want to maintain a healthy lifestyle and want to, I
don't necessarily want to live till I'm 250.
Like some of the stuff that that's been popping up on the
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Instagram and the Facebooks and stuff.
But I definitely want to not feel like a 55 year old, right?
At least that's me. Exactly.
I just froze. Mike, I think Chris is breaking
up a little bit. I'm Yeah.
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Froze. Up it's there for a second it.
Happens with technology, you know.
Yeah, yeah. Because when I restarted, I
forgot to to put myself on the proper Internet.
So I noticed it was lagging froman uploading standpoint.
So what is what is the, what is the name of your company?
And, and it's all plant based. So give us some more details on
that because you're here to share your your product and what
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we can do to help promote you. Oh, I love that.
I, I wasn't sure I, I had a podcast yesterday interview on
healthy longevity, but this is aso this is a first ever natural
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alternative that actually works the same.
It's like taking your face to the gym.
OK. And I'm like you.
I, I want to, I don't want to bemy age, act my age.
I want to have fun, live a full life.
So my mom is 101. Really.
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Wow, that's amazing. Now is she?
Is she using your stuff? Is she using your stuff?
She did up until about a year orso ago, yes.
OK, well, why'd she stop? Well, her body's starting to
fail her a little bit, which satabout a. 101 right?
I mean yes, now is now is your family.
Everybody lives that old. My father did not.
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My father did. My father maybe 7076.
OK, but when you talk about living to 250, the actual
research shows we should be living to about 140.
I don't want to live. That's pretty crazy.
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That's like I said, what if you could?
Feel the way you do right now. If I could feel the way I do
right now and live to 140, OK. Yeah, yeah.
Well at 92 my mother and I went to Prague and she out walked me.
We we were walking like 5-6 miles a day because she does
move every day so. Right, that's good.
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But you know what's interesting is when I hit my mid 50s I
figured out no amount of good diet, exercise or nutrition
prevents gravity on your face. Right.
And so I, I love that I found a company to partner with.
So I'm an affiliate for the company and it's the future of
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filler. So this is a topical product,
topical elixir that goes under aday or night cream and it takes
like 30 seconds to two pumps in the morning, 2 pumps in the
evening. But what it's doing is it has
plant peptides, plant stem cells.
The latest science is so cool and what it's doing.
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You have like 40 muscles in yourface and it's activating the
muscles in your face to lift andfill and pump themselves.
Really. It is when you the science
behind it is wild. I mean it's like 3-4 year, a lot
of years of research and then blending.
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And then it also builds the collagen in your skin by over
1200%. With that one right there,
explain how you would use that on a daily.
How many times a day? Once a day?
Morning. Night, morning, wash my face.
It twists open and then I just do 2 pumps on my fingers and
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then I spot do it all the the and I spot up here, you know,
the forehead lines and under theeyes and and then I put on a day
cream and then at night I wash my face, put it on and then put
on a it's very thin. It's really crazy.
OK. And have you seen a significant
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difference since using it? Oh my goodness.
Where's my cell phone? Yes, here's I'll actually I
don't know how how well this will.
Come the cool thing, the cool, the cool thing is you can send
it to me. We, because we were talking via
e-mail, you can send it to the e-mail and then we'll put you up
on our Facebook page so people can see that.
OK, that would be fun. I will share with you that I got
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very excited because. Oh wow.
Oh. Yeah.
Wow. Yeah.
And then this is the eye area that you can't do anything
really with Botox, right? And so this is from the filler.
Wow. So that's the before.
OK. And so that no matter what
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you're doing, I do believe what you do on the inside does affect
the outside, right? And I'm very familiar with
peptides and Jay Campbell, and my husband's a doctor of
pharmacology, so he's been studying that for several years.
But to have an elixir that can topically activate the muscles
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in your face, it's like taking your face to the gym.
Yeah. And how long?
How long? How long have you been using it?
That was six weeks. We just launched it May 1st.
That's. Impressive.
Yeah, we sold five months worth of inventory in five days
because the clinical trial photos came out the the 90 day
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clinical trial photos out and the results were so amazing,
like just that whole tightening,lifting, looking, you know,
we're going to live to we'll say120 Chris, you know.
And you're, how old are you right now?
Can we ask that? Yeah, you can ask that.
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I'll tell you this. When I renewed my passport a
couple of years ago, they made me come downtown Houston to
prove I'd send in a current photo because of using our day
and night cream, which work wellover long term.
I looked the same. I actually looked a little bit
younger and they didn't believe I'd sent in a current photo.
Now that's awesome. So I'll be 70 in a couple of
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months. I wouldn't have.
Guessed that no. Yeah, no, nobody really, really
does. And that's what I'm really
hoping people understand is thatpeople say to me in their 60s
like, I'm old or it's too late to start doing stuff.
I'm like, Oh my God, you don't get to say you're old until
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you're 100. My mom is old.
You are not old. Now, did your mom use this
topical cream? She has not used this one, but
she used our day and night cream.
So they go together as a set. OK.
And. So so was there.
And then oily skin, dry skin, doesn't matter your ethnicity
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skin, OK. So.
And it did it. Did it make a dramatic?
Yes, all. Everybody was like, So I also
use the night cream on the back of my hands so my hands don't
get my age away. Sure.
And of course, the neck. The neck.
Yeah, yeah. She looked a lot younger than
all her friends. That's cool, That's cool.
Now where do people, where do people find your?
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What's the product called? Let's go there.
It's called Hi Q Intelligent Skin Care and it's this is Neo
filler, which is new filler. It's the future of filler.
And if if you go to my web, if you go to lesliehawker.com, then
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there's a form to fill out and I'll, I'll work with people to
help them get the best value. OK, so so I'm going to
lesliehawker.com right now. No needles, no pain, no tox,
just real results. Right up my alley, I don't.
Yeah, the note, you know guys, Ihad never obviously I've heard
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of a Botox and fillers, but I had no idea how expensive
fillers are. That's where they do the
injections through here. It's like 7 to $900 this
session. And then the Botox on average is
like three 5400 to 1000 bucks. I mean, it's like, so you're
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you're talking, you know, with shipping 140 bucks or something
like that. I mean, it's so and people are
funny. They'll ask me, well, do you
have to keep using it? I'm like, well, are you getting
older every day? Yeah.
Like have you ever gone to the gym and then stopped going?
It didn't you didn't lose your muscle mass right away, but you
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did, you know, progressively start going backwards.
So correct. But I I like that it's healthy
for your skin. Yeah.
Now, so you referenced, you referenced, it's a, it's a
filler. What's a filler?
Well, if women know what a filler is.
Right. But not everybody, not everybody
on here is going to understand what you're saying.
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So I want you to be more elaborate about that stuff so
people understand. I I.
I'm going to since I've never done it and I'm not an injector,
but it is some type of substancethat is injected here to reduce
the lines here. It they can't do it here and
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they can't do it on your jaw line.
Which is what? This always.
Looks old, right? Right, yes, you can't inject on
your neck either. So this, you know, you, you, you
can use on your whole face is a thin layer under whatever you're
currently using or use it with. You know what I've been using.
So here's the challenge. What they've discovered is that
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these injections move. So we've all seen celebrities
that look odd. Is that a?
Yeah, yeah. Odd is a good word.
Like, like Ozzy Osbourne just had his last concert.
I'm assuming you know who Ozzy Osbourne is because who doesn't?
Yes, but but Sharon, they were, there were some stuff behind the
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scenes with Sharon and I just looked at Sharon.
I'm like how, how, how can you look in the mirror and be happy
with what you look like? She she's not.
She's I mean she's her whole face is plastic looking and it's
all I. Don't you know that whole story,
right? I don't, I just.
Figured so whatever she was taking, it just went S on her
and it wasn't anything that she wanted to do it just like you
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have to do the a little bit of research on that because I don't
remember the whole story, but I do remember catching a news
article where they were saying whatever she was taking just
kept going past what she wanted to achieve as far as a look
right. Oh, gotcha.
Yeah. Oh.
Wow, that's. What you would call what she was
considering preventative maintenance going.
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Around, OK, yeah. It's pretty crazy, I agree.
With you, she looks terrible. Weapons.
Freaky looking. So women will get fillers
thinking that it's going or the lips.
So you can use this on your lipsas well.
It's for the lines and the lines, you know, around here,
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and this is an, I guess, an ultraviolet of someone who'd had
fillers around their lips and itjust moves around your whole
face, which is why some of thesecelebrities look odd.
And it's dangerous, from what I understand, to get so Botox.
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They do up here. That's why like I still have
lines in my forehead, those verysmooth foreheads you're seeing.
That's because they've injected Botox.
And I asked my husband. So I asked my husband when Botox
came on the scene, what, 10-15 years ago?
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I asked him. I said, well, what's a long term
effect because it is toxins. And he looked at me and he said
now he's a doctor of pharmacology.
He said nerve damage. I went really.
Yeah, because, well, because it's deadening the nerves.
It's. Deadening.
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It's so you don't. So it's like, so for me, that's
not an option. I've been in.
I was an athlete, I was a swimmer.
Also for the people that are seeing me, I'm not wearing
foundation or makeup. That's that's just your probably
should have put I'm so pale, butthe discoloration I had from
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being a lifeguard and a swimmer because there was number
sunscreen when I was a teenager.And you didn't wear a hat?
Are you kidding? They were all going for that.
Iodine. Band the band du Soleil.
Remember that commercial band duSoleil?
Oh, simply band that Lady. That I remember when that came.
Out right, so do I and. You know what we said that came
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out and it was SPF 246 and the strongest was 8 and we all said
I'm not wearing sunscreen. Nobody's going to wear an 8.
Right. I'm going to get a tail.
So what kind of what kind of athlete were you?
I was. A swimmer.
I was a nationally ranked AAU swimmer.
I swam in college. I actually swam on the men's
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team my freshman year because before Title 9 came along and
then I got the first athletic scholarship at University of
Oklahoma. Well, that's fantastic.
That's. A or a female athlete and I do
still hold some Big 8 was the Big 8 back then.
So I, I still, well, we're not in the Big eight anymore, but I
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still held some Big 8 records. I held school records for a long
time, but they don't they discontinue.
What are the big 8 records inquiring my?
200 they'll say 200 yard backstroke. 100 individual
medley. Trying to remember multiple
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years, so mostly for backstroke.100 backstroke. 200 Backstroke.
So you're not a slacker by any means.
No, we swam 10 miles a day wow all through college and lifted
weights. So when I graduated college I
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had like a 16 inch neck. Oh my.
And I weighed about 145 lbs. It took a while to get what I
laughed my mom when I got back to this size, she asked me look
this used to looking at me so big for so long.
I remember her pulling me aside and asking if basically whatever
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it was in my anorexic bling. I'm like, no, I'm normal.
This is this is how normal females look, Mom, I love to eat
that's. Funny.
Well, you know, athletes, I was a wrestler.
So I know, you know, wrestlers, you got to make weight and stuff
like that. So I never did anything crazy
like that. So you also meant so we're so
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we're we're we're a swimmer who holds records, which is pretty
legit. And do those records still
stand? Well, they do, because.
You know, even though right, right.
So what was, what was the, what was the time on those that you
did? Oh my gosh, Let's see, 200 yard
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back, probably about two minutes, which, you know, it
wouldn't. Yeah, and my backstroke was
faster than my freestyle. Wow.
OK, Really. It has to do with dynamics and a
little bit of female drag, but I'm very double jointed, you can
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see that. Oh wow.
That's crazy. My arms straight.
OK, so that cut off a couple of seconds.
That literally the movement fromhere to here.
Yeah. Yeah.
So being able to come up and go straight into the water.
You're going way more straight back than anybody else by a
landslide. Yeah.
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So that's kind of why Michael Phelps was what how successful
he was because. Yeah, it's weird looking, Yes,
that's why some. Hello hobby.
Was that the hobby or was that the doorbell?
You know, I love Michael Phelps because he really helped bring
to the public the power of visualization.
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I mean, we, I learned all of that business Swarmer coaches
had us do that. The power of visualization,
setting goals, that whole piece that translates into business as
well. Sure, sure.
Absolutely. So you also mentioned your
mother and you have you have twochildren or two of grown-ups?
Grown up kids, yes. Two sometimes grown up.
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OK, hopefully they're not watching this.
Right. How old?
How old are the kids? Late 40s and 5050 one something
like that. OK, boys, girls.
Girls. OK.
And you only have two grandkids out of the two daughters.
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Yes, one girl and one boy. Oh nice.
OK, and how old are the grandkids?
One's 12 and one just turned 16.Oh, nice.
OK, yeah. And what, what is it?
What did your Did your daughtersfollow in your swimming
footsteps? No, they didn't.
No. You know why I swam my I'm the
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oldest of five kids, and my parents put us in swimming to
keep us all out of trouble. Well, there you go.
Because with five kids, there's always someone to get in trouble
with. Yeah.
Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now with with the with the four siblings, were any of the other
ones as successful at swimming like you were?
Yes, my the sister right behind me swam on a scholarship for a
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couple of years at Oklahoma State.
We actually swam against each other one year.
Not same event, but team team did.
Your team win. Pardon did.
Your team win. Yes, but she still, she still
swims and she's actually a master's.
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She does master's swimming and she's nationally ranked so.
That's fantastic. Yeah, I was tired of swimming.
She I think she quit a couple ofyears in to pursue her degree.
It's it's hard to be an athlete and and study and travel to
meet. And that's why so many athletes
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don't actually do very well in school.
So I tried to balance that. But when I was when I graduated,
I was like, I'm done. I don't want to see a pool ever
again. I love the beach.
I love the beach. No pool.
And and and you and you set yourrecord.
So what else you going to do? You know, I mean, that's, that's
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good. OK.
And your husband you referenced that's Ron, I'm assuming because
of the e-mail, right, right. And he's a, he's a
pharmacologist. He's a, it's called a pharm D,
So it's a doctor of pharmacology.
So it's like a pharmacist but with a, with a doctorate.
It's like it's like same degree as a medical doctor without
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cutting on cadavers. Oh.
So it's you've heard of compounding pharmacist it it the
art of that. So that's an advanced.
So he would have been a compounding Dr. of pharmacology
that's come back because of peptides.
So it was a dying art because ofautomation and it just with
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pills and all of that. So the compounding, the art of
compounding is is in demand again.
OK, so from a, from a perspective of you guys, let's
go, let's talk about the peptides because we had somebody
that came on the show, which Mike and I didn't know he was so
heavily involved in that aspect of life, something I've known
for years. So when he started dropping his
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peptide bombs were like, wow. So the fact that your your
husband's a doctor of pharmacology, I think it would
be interesting to kind of open up this box a little bit more
and talk about the peptides fromhis point of view and your point
of view and and the benefits because you said yours are plant
based. OK, so the topical elixir,
that's the natural alternative to injectables.
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It has three different formulas in it from 2, two different
science groups. 1 is in Brazil with like 40 scientists and they
discovered studied plant peptides that are a bio
stimulator for the face. OK.
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And so yes, it has plant peptides and plant stem cells.
With so what's the so what's thedifference between a plant
peptide and the normal peptides 'cause I you gotta, you have to
look at it this way. We're ignorant.
We're five years old. So I want you to explain it to
us so we can understand. So those who are watching and
we'll watch this can understand the benefits of the plant based
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stuff versus the peptides, the Ridge of the normal peptides.
That makes sense. Well, I don't think that's going
to be her area of expertise. Though yeah, you're and you're
right. And what I was going to say is,
so I'm happy you'd probably enjoy having run on.
What I was going to say is my understanding of peptides that
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you're taking for functions for the body that injectables are
where you want to go because because it's not having to go
through the gut. Gotcha.
OK. OK, that.
Makes that. Makes sense.
I, I do laugh a little bit when I see people selling plant
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peptides as or any type of peptide, right, because that's a
hot, you know, word right now that's an that that you take
orally because it's got to go through the gut process and that
I mean, that's that whole thing with pre and probiotics and that
whole science of freeze drying and all of that.
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This is like, this is like this is revolutionary.
I laughed when they first said plant topical plant peptide stem
cells. And then when you look at the
science, it is mind blowing. It is it, I mean in, in a, in a,
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in clinical trials in 12 weeks, a third party 100% of people saw
visible results. That's like in a clinical trial,
you don't get 100%. Correct.
And and 100% of people saw visible results.
OK, so what's what's the amount of time that someone should use
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the product to actually see it does?
It give it 90 days. Yeah, give it 90 days.
And we and we ask everybody to take a before photo because as I
always say, you can't see your face change, like you can't see
your hair grow, correct. It's like all of a sudden one
day it's like Oh my God, I need a haircut.
What happened? Yeah, so.
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Unless you shave your head and then you can watch it grow.
There you go, You know? So just give it 90 days.
Oh my gosh. Yeah, neither one of us have
hair. I should go get a ball cap.
Funny that. Funny you should mention that's
why I shaved my head. I was in a play dress rehearsal
night when we took the bald cap off, it ripped.
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And back then it was like you couldn't, there was no Amazon.
So it was like 2 weeks to get a bald cap from New York.
So we're like, wow, I'll just shave my head.
And so the next day I went to the Barber shop and shaved my
head. Oh wow, that.
Was 93, so it's. Just that's a.
Perfect head for it, perfect head for it.
I, I grew it out one my first year in real estate just 'cause
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I look like such a a baby and then I just got tired of it.
I had hair and a beard. I'm like, this is stupid.
That's not me. I just I I removed it all and.
Yeah, and you look good in both of you.
You got it big enough, so you got the forehead for it, which
means you got a few brains in there.
You do like to have fun. There's a.
Couple left a. Little bit of brains for sure.
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So, so of all the three productsyou have, because you've
mentioned three of them. So we have the topical right
with the plant, the plant peptides and the and the plant
stem cells. What's a plant stem cell?
Stem cell from a plant. Yeah, so or not because so it's
a cell concept. So one of the things, so it's
like the the foundation that helps it grow.
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OK. OK, cool.
The other thing, you want to hear something even crazier?
So one of the formulas in here, this is crazy.
One of the four. So there's three different
formulas in here. There's the one that activates
the muscles. There's another one that builds
collagen in the skin, which is. Super important, which is super.
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Collagen right right to help give you volume.
So Botox builds collagen in yourskin over multiple injections,
65% the fillers, which are microfillers, which are painful
and expensive. It's like 400 percent, 30 days,
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12123% in the clinical, in the in the science.
So when you. Put 100%.
So when you put it on your face,do you, do you, do you feel it
activating like, like when you're lifting rates weights,
right? Like when you're doing curls,
you feel the muscle contracting and, you know, in and out.
And so you after you're done, right, you get the burn like,
oh, I'm all swollen up. Yeah.
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Do you feel it activating on your face?
Actually you do not really feel anything, but when I started
noticing after a couple of weeks, even though I couldn't
see it in the mirror, it felt tighter, firmer, like your like
your muscles. That's yeah, that's what I was
getting after. So it does it, it does.
It's like I would wake up in themorning and go, wow, my face
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starting to feel firmer, not that loose.
And you know, it's a function of.
For me it was a function of lossof collagen in my face.
Which which we're learning that women, when you start going
through premenopausal menopause,the biggest things you lose
right is the collagen. Yes, actually you start losing
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in your 20s your collagen. Really.
Yes, just just the women though,because men don't seem to have
the same problems that women don't it.
Comes to that, you know I'm betting that part of it is and
probably why it took longer for me is the more men are
exercising moving so but I'm I'mI'm going to say that you're
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losing collagen as well so I do take we do have a product that's
a clean marine collagen that is activates fat Browning white fat
to brown. OK, so why is that?
Why is that? Why is that important?
Because, again, not everybody's going to understand.
That I know most people haven't heard of fat brownies.
Very interesting. That's why I'm asking the
question, Leslie. Yeah.
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So you're born with brown fat and as you grow you lose it, and
then you end up with that white fluffy fat like that you don't
want. Right, the love handles.
Yes, I started to say. Well, my daughter and for me,
they're called Muffin Talks. OK, Muffin talks.
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I said love handles too. I think love handles because you
got to get, you got something tohold on to, you know?
Yeah, love handles. So you want.
So scientists had decided up until about 10-11 years ago that
once you lost your brown fat, you lost it and they discovered
that they could actually take white fat and start Beijing it
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making it brown. So you want brown fat because
it's a smaller lipid and it's easier for your body to burn.
It's what gives you energy. And I actually have one sitting
here because. So I just put this in my coffee
in the morning. Or you could put it in tea.
Yeah. And what's interesting is you
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actually have heard of fat brailline.
You just didn't realize why people are doing it.
It's the cold plunge craze. Oh, yes, yes.
The goal is is to activate the cells to create brown fat which
helps protect you for warmth. Now for me, cold plunging?
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No thanks. Yeah, yeah.
What? And it's not very good for?
There's some recent research in the last few months that show
cold plunging isn't actually very good for women.
Men, yes. Yeah.
And I think. Women know what has to do with
your cycle and. Sure got.
You various different functions of the body, but you do want you
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do want to activate your your brown fat.
And so this product actually is part of our line as well.
And it comes from Taiwan. That's where the research was
done, where the scientists discovered that you could
activate white fat and convert it to brown.
And it's leaner. So I actually have photos of
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people that are in shape. They've got some inflammation
and it it's, you could visibly see how it tightened up.
OK, Yeah, we've learned about inflammation with with breads
and bad starches. Yes.
So we had a health, a health, a health Wellness coach on and
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then our fitness guy Nate Palmerwas on Peter Ho and Peter
Palmer, Peter Palmer, Nate Palmer and Peter Ho.
But because of that episode, I, my wife and I stopped eating
breads and crackers, which suck because we love Ritz crackers.
Ritz crackers are so bad for you.
Oh my God. I didn't even know till I looked
it up. It's like insane.
So we stopped doing all that purposely because I have
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degenerating vertebrae in my neck.
So I wanted to see if the inflammation part of it would go
away and it it Oh my gosh, like it within two weeks, I could see
a difference of the of the pain that was coming out of the neck
because the inflammation went away.
So definitely a big difference on that just from stopping the
bad starches and the crackers and things like that and trying
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to go more, not completely WholeFoods, but more of a Whole Foods
approach. I I we call it mindful eating.
I like that. I, I, it's not that I don't ever
do crackers or starch, but I'm mindful about it.
It's like not an everyday occurrence or not that I don't
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ever have a dessert, but it's just it's.
Every single meal, right? Yeah, I like that.
Yeah. I call it lifestyle change
because to me, people will diet,diet, diet.
Well, diets fail, lifestyles don't.
If you adjust your lifestyle, then you know everything's works
better. So we have the, the topical
cream that you use that energizes and, and helps the
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collagen and tighten the face and, and the baby, the baby's
stem. A cell helps develop that you
have the the you just drop the bomb on the is it it's a
supplement to help burn the turnthe brown to white fat, which is
good. And what was and you had two
other things you talked about when you started.
What were those two other concepts?
Products. This was just a so in the skin
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care industry, you have this thing where they say, oh, skin
care for your 20s, your 30s, your 40s, your 50s.
You're a man. You're, you know, skin is skin.
But the challenge is, so one of my brothers who's a biochemist
and a neuroscientist who who works with me, that's another
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story. He's a martial artist and he he
didn't want to move with his labback to Harvard, to Boston.
He wanted to stay in Texas for family.
But what he said to me made so much sense, 'cause after he did
research, 'cause he never researched again.
He said most everything on the market is masking symptoms.
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Oh, and these these day and night cream, the reason they
work on African American, Caucasian, Latin Indian oily dry
is because they're working in the skin.
Oh, OK, so you're the skin is skin.
That's right, right. So we actually launched and did
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100 million our first full year with this night cream and and
because we disrupted the space and men love it because men will
do one step. Yeah.
You remember when men's skin care broke on the market?
I laughed because they're like 5steps like men.
My husband wasn't even washing his face before me.
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I never knew that until I watched him.
Because you need your face a little bit damp, which is
happens after you wash it. So we're we're at the sink.
We double sink and I look over there and I see him doing like
with a little bit of water to dampen his face.
And I'm like, what are you doing?
Yeah. You're like, OK, Leslie, he's
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using the skin care. Leave him alone.
Do not comment. So he also looks way younger
than it. No one guesses his age.
It's. And how old is he?
He's 78. OK.
And you could see a photo of himon the website.
He he doesn't. And what do?
What do most people think his age is?
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I'm on. Your website guessed him late
50s. OK, so I'm on your website.
Where's the picture of him? Is it the one where you're on
stage? Yes.
The one that's. Probably about 5 or 6 years ago.
OK. Is he?
Is he in the glasses or no glasses?
He has glasses. OK, yeah, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't. And so even five years ago, I
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wouldn't guess he was 73. Yeah.
Right. There's no way.
That's insane. Yeah.
And then the gentleman to the right of you, I'm looking at it
would be to your left. So I highly recommend his book.
He's the CEO of the company. He's the best selling author of
The Slight Edge, Jeff Olson. OK.
And he's is he really like? And real estate, There was a guy
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who's big in real estate online.He did an interview with Jeff.
But real estate, insurance, banking, sports, that is a great
book about the philosophy of us,of business and life.
Really. It's called the Slight Edge, you
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guys. Yeah, so in this picture he's
probably like 102, but he looks like he's.
No, he's the the one picture andthat picture he's probably late
60s. OK, it doesn't, but he doesn't
look it, no. But because he's big into, I
mean, he he does he he also doespeptides, does all the skin
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care, does all of the Wellness products that we have because
the the fat Browning actually has three simple powders that go
together free and probiotic under your tongue before lunch
helps your body properly use carbs and fats.
And then at night, the cleansingcalm.
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So he's using all of that. Nice.
So really it's hacking. You want to look as young as you
feel, in my opinion. So for me it's it's not as much.
Originally it started with our night cream because I wanted to
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get rid of all the discoloration.
Oh, from the swimming. And stuff.
And then I was concerned about the health of my skin because I
had baked the crap out of my skin for decades swimming.
And then as I got older it became about, hey, I want to
look as young as I feel. I feel great.
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Yeah. So.
Yeah, that's fascinating. Yeah.
So. So let's do a little plug so
people can find you again. So the website
islesliehawker.com. Yes.
And it's LESL i.e. H go to Leslie.
Yes, LESL i.e. HOCKER, go to lesliehawker.com.
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I also one of the things that I do is when you go there, I have
a freebie for you on daily Affirmations for Success.
Cool. Very nice.
And, and then let me know, you know, reach out and you can also
find me on Facebook. Right.
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Leslie Hawker. Leslie Hawker on Facebook.
Yes. And you can find me on Instagram
and LinkedIn. Look at that.
So on all on all platforms that you have it.
So just search your name Leslie Hawker and they'll find you.
Facebook, Instagram. Yes they should.
On Instagram and Facebook. I'm actually in a pink shirt.
OK. On on LinkedIn, which I'm not
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quite as active, but on LinkedInI'm there as Leslie Hocker.
You should be a little more active on LinkedIn because you
can open up the door to SO. You know that's an.
Opportunity. People have told me so I'll take
that to heart. Yeah, I've, I've put because I,
I, my real life is, is real estate.
I've been selling houses for 25 years.
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So I've done stuff on LinkedIn and they say, oh, you'll never
get business off LinkedIn. But I've actually gotten
business off. I have AI, forget what it's
called. It's it's a, it's a, it's a
channel within my channel. It's just learning with the real
estate guy. But I've gathered I've garnered
some business off of that just for whatever random topics I did
at the time, which I thought wasinteresting because the same
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concept like back in the day, Instagram, you're not going to
get business on Instagram. And you know, it's a platform to
get business now. So especially with your before
and after stuff, I think if you started posting some before and
after stuff success stories on LinkedIn, you might you might be
surprised because you're going to go after corporate America,
right? And who doesn't want to look
young in corporate America? And you know, what's surprising
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is a lot of men are getting a Botox because they, they don't,
they don't want to, to keep their job.
I guess when they're interviewing or whatever, they
can't ask, how old are you? But people are judged.
Right. That's because that's ageism,
right? You can't be like, like, did you
ever watch the series The Office?
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Yes, yeah. OK, so remember, remember when
when when one of the one of the new off managers came in and
they were trying to change the ageism thing?
So Creed took all the black toner out of the out of the
printer and dyed his hair black,right?
Nothing. And he walks up to Ryan.
The champion's like, what up, bro?
And. They're just like, yeah, it was.
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Something was going on where Michael and I don't remember
what I was exactly, but that wasthat was funny because he was
like, I'm not, I'm not old. Oh, that's hilarious.
I'm younger than everybody else,which is quite the comical
thing. So cool.
So Leslie hawker.com. You can find her on Facebook and
Instagram as well as LinkedIn. I'll search Leslie Hawker life
hacking the keeping yourself look younger with with plant
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based peptides and plant based stem cells.
She's living proof. I forget how old she is, but she
doesn't look it because when shesaid it, it was like there's no
way her husband, you know, I looked at a picture of him from
five years ago and he looks and he was 70.
He's 78 now, so 73 didn't he doesn't look it.
It's all natural. It takes about 90 days to see
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results correct. Actually some people see results
in just a few days. It just depends on your age, how
old you are. In the clinical trials, some
people saw results with the filler Future of filler in two
hours. So the filler, the filler itself
is just kind of you're, it's not, it's not going internally
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like the real fillers, it's justgoing in and filling in the.
It's a topical and it's stimulating, OK, the muscles in
your face and then. It's absorbed, your pores absorb
it. And then it's activating the
baby collagen. I don't know, people realize
it's the baby collagen. You see the volume loss.
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Gotcha. OK, cool.
That's. Awesome, Which you know, we had
as babies. So yes, it's very, it's topical,
but it is working in the skin todo something.
I, I would say give it 90 days. I mean, we do have a 60 day
money back guarantee. So at least give it, at least
give it 60 days something. So then you and you have the day
and night cream. So you put the topical cream on
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how many times? Wash your face morning.
Put it on 2 pumps. Evening put it on 2 pumps and
then your night cream on top, your day cream on top of it.
Top, OK. And then for women, they can put
makeup on on top of that without.
Yeah, OK, OK, cool. That's yes.
Right on. Well, we want to have you back
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and have and then have you bringRon because it'd be fun to have
the the science behind it as well, because Mike and I just
have fascinated with different things.
So I think that would be cool atsome point in time get him on
and you guys can share more of the the science behind
everything. I'd be happy to do that.
He's a lot of fun like you guys.Well, good.
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Well, we, we super appreciate you coming on the show, Leslie.
And again, we'll, we'll share links and stuff when this drops.
I will send you all of the reelsthat we generate from this so
you can share them on all your platforms as well to help
promote your business. And we will do our part to help
you as well. I appreciate that.
It's my pleasure. Thanks for coming on.
All right. See you guys later.
Have a fantastic day. Oh, and hey, before we leave, I
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almost forgot our standard leaving thing.
Hey, don't let the bad days win.Tomorrow is another day.
So if you're feeling depressed and sad and and suicidal, reach
out to somebody. Because somebody does love you,
whether you believe that or not,you know, Go to sleep tonight,
Wake up tomorrow. It's a better day.
Someone will miss you, someone loves you.
Don't leave a hole in their heart because you decided to
vacate this world without talking to somebody.
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With that being said, nothing but love.
And I love it. Yeah.
Yeah. Love you, brother.
Love you. Love you too, man.
Love you, Leslie. Thanks for coming on.
Tell Ron. Nice.
To meet you, yeah. Bye.
Great. Day bye.
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The place where you will go.
(47:30):
Take a moment. Now you're turning come down
(48:53):
here. You haven't found something, you
see you're saying fuck fighting.Wait for the day when he's
supposed to arrive in a hit for the way the creature we're
playing frown and you should youput it on the almighty man.
(49:16):
You gotta dream who in your lifeto keep our soul in every man.
Take the trail behind your eyes.Feel the soul evolution now.
(49:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Take a moment.
(50:15):
You gotta. You gotta.
You gotta. You gotta.
And we're live. Welcome ladies and gentlemen, on
the YouTube and the Twitch. Yes, welcome to the YouTube and
the Twitch show. Or not, you know.
We have some crazy people that actually watch this live now, so
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we're very thankful for them too, Renee.
We are, absolutely. So there you go.
Welcome, boys and girls, to the Christian.
Show we are. Live on YouTube, in which, as
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Mike just said, that we also have a guest on today, Leslie
Hocker. How are you, Leslie?
Hey, I'm great. It's great to be here.
It's good to be alive. It is.
Nice to meet you, Leslie. Thanks for coming on.
Absolutely. Above ground, right?
Yes, every day above ground is agreat day.
So we found you on one of the social media platforms, correct?
(01:10):
I think so, yes. Yeah.
So give us a give us a little, which we do with everybody.
Give us a little 32nd elevator rundown of who you are, why
you're here, and what we're going to talk about today.
I am a business owner, entrepreneur, I love helping
people. I'm married, I've got 2 girls, 2
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grandkids and I am a big into hacking healthy longevity.
OK. So expand a little bit on, on
your business owner, entrepreneur, what, what's the,
what's the primary business you're focused on right now?
I am focused on an anti aging a natural alternative topical
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plant based to Botox and fillers.
Oh, OK, so you're. Like I'm a, I'm a No injections,
no. OK.
I appreciate that. Yeah, 'cause you never know
what's getting injected into you, right?
Even when. I say it's one thing, yeah, not
those. I've had that happen before I
was an athlete. But I have been surprised how
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many men actually are interestedin in doing something that's not
invasive for their face. Well, I think as, as we've
evolved as a society, right, andeverything's become so Google
friendly, right? The world has shrunk
dramatically that like my wife and I, we've had a, we've had a
lot of health folks on here, we've had a Wellness coach,
(02:38):
we've had a fitness coach, somebody who's huge in the
peptides. But having all that, you, you
have the ability to research things more than you did in the
past. So that only makes sense that
those that want to maintain a healthy lifestyle and want to, I
don't necessarily want to live till I'm 250.
Like some of the stuff that that's been popping up on the
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Instagram and the Facebooks and stuff.
But I definitely want to not feel like a 55 year old, right?
At least that's me. Exactly.
I just froze. Mike, I think Chris is breaking
up a little bit. I'm Yeah.
(03:20):
Froze. Up it's there for a second it.
Happens with technology, you know.
Yeah, yeah. Because when I restarted, I
forgot to to put myself on the proper Internet.
So I noticed it was lagging froman uploading standpoint.
So what is what is the, what is the name of your company?
And, and it's all plant based. So give us some more details on
that because you're here to share your your product and what
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we can do to help promote you. Oh, I love that.
I, I wasn't sure I, I had a podcast yesterday interview on
healthy longevity, but this is aso this is a first ever natural
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alternative that actually works the same.
It's like taking your face to the gym.
OK. And I'm like you.
I, I want to, I don't want to bemy age, act my age.
I want to have fun, live a full life.
So my mom is 101. Really.
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Wow, that's amazing. Now is she?
Is she using your stuff? Is she using your stuff?
She did up until about a year orso ago, yes.
OK, well, why'd she stop? Well, her body's starting to
fail her a little bit, which satabout a. 101 right?
I mean yes, now is now is your family.
Everybody lives that old. My father did not.
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My father did. My father maybe 7076.
OK, but when you talk about living to 250, the actual
research shows we should be living to about 140.
I don't want to live. That's pretty crazy.
(05:08):
That's like I said, what if you could?
Feel the way you do right now. If I could feel the way I do
right now and live to 140, OK. Yeah, yeah.
Well at 92 my mother and I went to Prague and she out walked me.
We we were walking like 5-6 miles a day because she does
move every day so. Right, that's good.
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But you know what's interesting is when I hit my mid 50s I
figured out no amount of good diet, exercise or nutrition
prevents gravity on your face. Right.
And so I, I love that I found a company to partner with.
So I'm an affiliate for the company and it's the future of
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filler. So this is a topical product,
topical elixir that goes under aday or night cream and it takes
like 30 seconds to two pumps in the morning, 2 pumps in the
evening. But what it's doing is it has
plant peptides, plant stem cells.
The latest science is so cool and what it's doing.
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You have like 40 muscles in yourface and it's activating the
muscles in your face to lift andfill and pump themselves.
Really. It is when you the science
behind it is wild. I mean it's like 3-4 year, a lot
of years of research and then blending.
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And then it also builds the collagen in your skin by over
1200%. With that one right there,
explain how you would use that on a daily.
How many times a day? Once a day?
Morning. Night, morning, wash my face.
It twists open and then I just do 2 pumps on my fingers and
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then I spot do it all the the and I spot up here, you know,
the forehead lines and under theeyes and and then I put on a day
cream and then at night I wash my face, put it on and then put
on a it's very thin. It's really crazy.
OK. And have you seen a significant
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difference since using it? Oh my goodness.
Where's my cell phone? Yes, here's I'll actually I
don't know how how well this will.
Come the cool thing, the cool, the cool thing is you can send
it to me. We, because we were talking via
e-mail, you can send it to the e-mail and then we'll put you up
on our Facebook page so people can see that.
OK, that would be fun. I will share with you that I got
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very excited because. Oh wow.
Oh. Yeah.
Wow. Yeah.
And then this is the eye area that you can't do anything
really with Botox, right? And so this is from the filler.
Wow. So that's the before.
OK. And so that no matter what
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you're doing, I do believe what you do on the inside does affect
the outside, right? And I'm very familiar with
peptides and Jay Campbell, and my husband's a doctor of
pharmacology, so he's been studying that for several years.
But to have an elixir that can topically activate the muscles
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in your face, it's like taking your face to the gym.
Yeah. And how long?
How long? How long have you been using it?
That was six weeks. We just launched it May 1st.
That's. Impressive.
Yeah, we sold five months worth of inventory in five days
because the clinical trial photos came out the the 90 day
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clinical trial photos out and the results were so amazing,
like just that whole tightening,lifting, looking, you know,
we're going to live to we'll say120 Chris, you know.
And you're, how old are you right now?
Can we ask that? Yeah, you can ask that.
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I'll tell you this. When I renewed my passport a
couple of years ago, they made me come downtown Houston to
prove I'd send in a current photo because of using our day
and night cream, which work wellover long term.
I looked the same. I actually looked a little bit
younger and they didn't believe I'd sent in a current photo.
Now that's awesome. So I'll be 70 in a couple of
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months. I wouldn't have.
Guessed that no. Yeah, no, nobody really, really
does. And that's what I'm really
hoping people understand is thatpeople say to me in their 60s
like, I'm old or it's too late to start doing stuff.
I'm like, Oh my God, you don't get to say you're old until
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you're 100. My mom is old.
You are not old. Now, did your mom use this
topical cream? She has not used this one, but
she used our day and night cream.
So they go together as a set. OK.
And. So so was there.
And then oily skin, dry skin, doesn't matter your ethnicity
(10:18):
skin, OK. So.
And it did it. Did it make a dramatic?
Yes, all. Everybody was like, So I also
use the night cream on the back of my hands so my hands don't
get my age away. Sure.
And of course, the neck. The neck.
Yeah, yeah. She looked a lot younger than
all her friends. That's cool, That's cool.
Now where do people, where do people find your?
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What's the product called? Let's go there.
It's called Hi Q Intelligent Skin Care and it's this is Neo
filler, which is new filler. It's the future of filler.
And if if you go to my web, if you go to lesliehawker.com, then
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there's a form to fill out and I'll, I'll work with people to
help them get the best value. OK, so so I'm going to
lesliehawker.com right now. No needles, no pain, no tox,
just real results. Right up my alley, I don't.
Yeah, the note, you know guys, Ihad never obviously I've heard
(11:26):
of a Botox and fillers, but I had no idea how expensive
fillers are. That's where they do the
injections through here. It's like 7 to $900 this
session. And then the Botox on average is
like three 5400 to 1000 bucks. I mean, it's like, so you're
(11:50):
you're talking, you know, with shipping 140 bucks or something
like that. I mean, it's so and people are
funny. They'll ask me, well, do you
have to keep using it? I'm like, well, are you getting
older every day? Yeah.
Like have you ever gone to the gym and then stopped going?
It didn't you didn't lose your muscle mass right away, but you
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did, you know, progressively start going backwards.
So correct. But I I like that it's healthy
for your skin. Yeah.
Now, so you referenced, you referenced, it's a, it's a
filler. What's a filler?
Well, if women know what a filler is.
Right. But not everybody, not everybody
on here is going to understand what you're saying.
(12:38):
So I want you to be more elaborate about that stuff so
people understand. I I.
I'm going to since I've never done it and I'm not an injector,
but it is some type of substancethat is injected here to reduce
the lines here. It they can't do it here and
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they can't do it on your jaw line.
Which is what? This always.
Looks old, right? Right, yes, you can't inject on
your neck either. So this, you know, you, you, you
can use on your whole face is a thin layer under whatever you're
currently using or use it with. You know what I've been using.
So here's the challenge. What they've discovered is that
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these injections move. So we've all seen celebrities
that look odd. Is that a?
Yeah, yeah. Odd is a good word.
Like, like Ozzy Osbourne just had his last concert.
I'm assuming you know who Ozzy Osbourne is because who doesn't?
Yes, but but Sharon, they were, there were some stuff behind the
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scenes with Sharon and I just looked at Sharon.
I'm like how, how, how can you look in the mirror and be happy
with what you look like? She she's not.
She's I mean she's her whole face is plastic looking and it's
all I. Don't you know that whole story,
right? I don't, I just.
Figured so whatever she was taking, it just went S on her
and it wasn't anything that she wanted to do it just like you
(14:08):
have to do the a little bit of research on that because I don't
remember the whole story, but I do remember catching a news
article where they were saying whatever she was taking just
kept going past what she wanted to achieve as far as a look
right. Oh, gotcha.
Yeah. Oh.
Wow, that's. What you would call what she was
considering preventative maintenance going.
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Around, OK, yeah. It's pretty crazy, I agree.
With you, she looks terrible. Weapons.
Freaky looking. So women will get fillers
thinking that it's going or the lips.
So you can use this on your lipsas well.
It's for the lines and the lines, you know, around here,
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and this is an, I guess, an ultraviolet of someone who'd had
fillers around their lips and itjust moves around your whole
face, which is why some of thesecelebrities look odd.
And it's dangerous, from what I understand, to get so Botox.
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They do up here. That's why like I still have
lines in my forehead, those verysmooth foreheads you're seeing.
That's because they've injected Botox.
And I asked my husband. So I asked my husband when Botox
came on the scene, what, 10-15 years ago?
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I asked him. I said, well, what's a long term
effect because it is toxins. And he looked at me and he said
now he's a doctor of pharmacology.
He said nerve damage. I went really.
Yeah, because, well, because it's deadening the nerves.
It's. Deadening.
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It's so you don't. So it's like, so for me, that's
not an option. I've been in.
I was an athlete, I was a swimmer.
Also for the people that are seeing me, I'm not wearing
foundation or makeup. That's that's just your probably
should have put I'm so pale, butthe discoloration I had from
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being a lifeguard and a swimmer because there was number
sunscreen when I was a teenager.And you didn't wear a hat?
Are you kidding? They were all going for that.
Iodine. Band the band du Soleil.
Remember that commercial band duSoleil?
Oh, simply band that Lady. That I remember when that came.
Out right, so do I and. You know what we said that came
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out and it was SPF 246 and the strongest was 8 and we all said
I'm not wearing sunscreen. Nobody's going to wear an 8.
Right. I'm going to get a tail.
So what kind of what kind of athlete were you?
I was. A swimmer.
I was a nationally ranked AAU swimmer.
I swam in college. I actually swam on the men's
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team my freshman year because before Title 9 came along and
then I got the first athletic scholarship at University of
Oklahoma. Well, that's fantastic.
That's. A or a female athlete and I do
still hold some Big 8 was the Big 8 back then.
So I, I still, well, we're not in the Big eight anymore, but I
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still held some Big 8 records. I held school records for a long
time, but they don't they discontinue.
What are the big 8 records inquiring my?
200 they'll say 200 yard backstroke. 100 individual
medley. Trying to remember multiple
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years, so mostly for backstroke.100 backstroke. 200 Backstroke.
So you're not a slacker by any means.
No, we swam 10 miles a day wow all through college and lifted
weights. So when I graduated college I
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had like a 16 inch neck. Oh my.
And I weighed about 145 lbs. It took a while to get what I
laughed my mom when I got back to this size, she asked me look
this used to looking at me so big for so long.
I remember her pulling me aside and asking if basically whatever
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it was in my anorexic bling. I'm like, no, I'm normal.
This is this is how normal females look, Mom, I love to eat
that's. Funny.
Well, you know, athletes, I was a wrestler.
So I know, you know, wrestlers, you got to make weight and stuff
like that. So I never did anything crazy
like that. So you also meant so we're so
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we're we're we're a swimmer who holds records, which is pretty
legit. And do those records still
stand? Well, they do, because.
You know, even though right, right.
So what was, what was the, what was the time on those that you
did? Oh my gosh, Let's see, 200 yard
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back, probably about two minutes, which, you know, it
wouldn't. Yeah, and my backstroke was
faster than my freestyle. Wow.
OK, Really. It has to do with dynamics and a
little bit of female drag, but I'm very double jointed, you can
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see that. Oh wow.
That's crazy. My arms straight.
OK, so that cut off a couple of seconds.
That literally the movement fromhere to here.
Yeah. Yeah.
So being able to come up and go straight into the water.
You're going way more straight back than anybody else by a
landslide. Yeah.
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So that's kind of why Michael Phelps was what how successful
he was because. Yeah, it's weird looking, Yes,
that's why some. Hello hobby.
Was that the hobby or was that the doorbell?
You know, I love Michael Phelps because he really helped bring
to the public the power of visualization.
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I mean, we, I learned all of that business Swarmer coaches
had us do that. The power of visualization,
setting goals, that whole piece that translates into business as
well. Sure, sure.
Absolutely. So you also mentioned your
mother and you have you have twochildren or two of grown-ups?
Grown up kids, yes. Two sometimes grown up.
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OK, hopefully they're not watching this.
Right. How old?
How old are the kids? Late 40s and 5050 one something
like that. OK, boys, girls.
Girls. OK.
And you only have two grandkids out of the two daughters.
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Yes, one girl and one boy. Oh nice.
OK, and how old are the grandkids?
One's 12 and one just turned 16.Oh, nice.
OK, yeah. And what, what is it?
What did your Did your daughtersfollow in your swimming
footsteps? No, they didn't.
No. You know why I swam my I'm the
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oldest of five kids, and my parents put us in swimming to
keep us all out of trouble. Well, there you go.
Because with five kids, there's always someone to get in trouble
with. Yeah.
Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now with with the with the four siblings, were any of the other
ones as successful at swimming like you were?
Yes, my the sister right behind me swam on a scholarship for a
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couple of years at Oklahoma State.
We actually swam against each other one year.
Not same event, but team team did.
Your team win. Pardon did.
Your team win. Yes, but she still, she still
swims and she's actually a master's.
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She does master's swimming and she's nationally ranked so.
That's fantastic. Yeah, I was tired of swimming.
She I think she quit a couple ofyears in to pursue her degree.
It's it's hard to be an athlete and and study and travel to
meet. And that's why so many athletes
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don't actually do very well in school.
So I tried to balance that. But when I was when I graduated,
I was like, I'm done. I don't want to see a pool ever
again. I love the beach.
I love the beach. No pool.
And and and you and you set yourrecord.
So what else you going to do? You know, I mean, that's, that's
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good. OK.
And your husband you referenced that's Ron, I'm assuming because
of the e-mail, right, right. And he's a, he's a
pharmacologist. He's a, it's called a pharm D,
So it's a doctor of pharmacology.
So it's like a pharmacist but with a, with a doctorate.
It's like it's like same degree as a medical doctor without
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cutting on cadavers. Oh.
So it's you've heard of compounding pharmacist it it the
art of that. So that's an advanced.
So he would have been a compounding Dr. of pharmacology
that's come back because of peptides.
So it was a dying art because ofautomation and it just with
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pills and all of that. So the compounding, the art of
compounding is is in demand again.
OK, so from a, from a perspective of you guys, let's
go, let's talk about the peptides because we had somebody
that came on the show, which Mike and I didn't know he was so
heavily involved in that aspect of life, something I've known
for years. So when he started dropping his
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peptide bombs were like, wow. So the fact that your your
husband's a doctor of pharmacology, I think it would
be interesting to kind of open up this box a little bit more
and talk about the peptides fromhis point of view and your point
of view and and the benefits because you said yours are plant
based. OK, so the topical elixir,
that's the natural alternative to injectables.
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It has three different formulas in it from 2, two different
science groups. 1 is in Brazil with like 40 scientists and they
discovered studied plant peptides that are a bio
stimulator for the face. OK.
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And so yes, it has plant peptides and plant stem cells.
With so what's the so what's thedifference between a plant
peptide and the normal peptides 'cause I you gotta, you have to
look at it this way. We're ignorant.
We're five years old. So I want you to explain it to
us so we can understand. So those who are watching and
we'll watch this can understand the benefits of the plant based
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stuff versus the peptides, the Ridge of the normal peptides.
That makes sense. Well, I don't think that's going
to be her area of expertise. Though yeah, you're and you're
right. And what I was going to say is,
so I'm happy you'd probably enjoy having run on.
What I was going to say is my understanding of peptides that
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you're taking for functions for the body that injectables are
where you want to go because because it's not having to go
through the gut. Gotcha.
OK. OK, that.
Makes that. Makes sense.
I, I do laugh a little bit when I see people selling plant
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peptides as or any type of peptide, right, because that's a
hot, you know, word right now that's an that that you take
orally because it's got to go through the gut process and that
I mean, that's that whole thing with pre and probiotics and that
whole science of freeze drying and all of that.
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This is like, this is like this is revolutionary.
I laughed when they first said plant topical plant peptide stem
cells. And then when you look at the
science, it is mind blowing. It is it, I mean in, in a, in a,
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in clinical trials in 12 weeks, a third party 100% of people saw
visible results. That's like in a clinical trial,
you don't get 100%. Correct.
And and 100% of people saw visible results.
OK, so what's what's the amount of time that someone should use
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the product to actually see it does?
It give it 90 days. Yeah, give it 90 days.
And we and we ask everybody to take a before photo because as I
always say, you can't see your face change, like you can't see
your hair grow, correct. It's like all of a sudden one
day it's like Oh my God, I need a haircut.
What happened? Yeah, so.
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Unless you shave your head and then you can watch it grow.
There you go, You know? So just give it 90 days.
Oh my gosh. Yeah, neither one of us have
hair. I should go get a ball cap.
Funny that. Funny you should mention that's
why I shaved my head. I was in a play dress rehearsal
night when we took the bald cap off, it ripped.
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And back then it was like you couldn't, there was no Amazon.
So it was like 2 weeks to get a bald cap from New York.
So we're like, wow, I'll just shave my head.
And so the next day I went to the Barber shop and shaved my
head. Oh wow, that.
Was 93, so it's. Just that's a.
Perfect head for it, perfect head for it.
I, I grew it out one my first year in real estate just 'cause
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I look like such a a baby and then I just got tired of it.
I had hair and a beard. I'm like, this is stupid.
That's not me. I just I I removed it all and.
Yeah, and you look good in both of you.
You got it big enough, so you got the forehead for it, which
means you got a few brains in there.
You do like to have fun. There's a.
Couple left a. Little bit of brains for sure.
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So, so of all the three productsyou have, because you've
mentioned three of them. So we have the topical right
with the plant, the plant peptides and the and the plant
stem cells. What's a plant stem cell?
Stem cell from a plant. Yeah, so or not because so it's
a cell concept. So one of the things, so it's
like the the foundation that helps it grow.
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OK. OK, cool.
The other thing, you want to hear something even crazier?
So one of the formulas in here, this is crazy.
One of the four. So there's three different
formulas in here. There's the one that activates
the muscles. There's another one that builds
collagen in the skin, which is. Super important, which is super.
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Collagen right right to help give you volume.
So Botox builds collagen in yourskin over multiple injections,
65% the fillers, which are microfillers, which are painful
and expensive. It's like 400 percent, 30 days,
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12123% in the clinical, in the in the science.
So when you. Put 100%.
So when you put it on your face,do you, do you, do you feel it
activating like, like when you're lifting rates weights,
right? Like when you're doing curls,
you feel the muscle contracting and, you know, in and out.
And so you after you're done, right, you get the burn like,
oh, I'm all swollen up. Yeah.
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Do you feel it activating on your face?
Actually you do not really feel anything, but when I started
noticing after a couple of weeks, even though I couldn't
see it in the mirror, it felt tighter, firmer, like your like
your muscles. That's yeah, that's what I was
getting after. So it does it, it does.
It's like I would wake up in themorning and go, wow, my face
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starting to feel firmer, not that loose.
And you know, it's a function of.
For me it was a function of lossof collagen in my face.
Which which we're learning that women, when you start going
through premenopausal menopause,the biggest things you lose
right is the collagen. Yes, actually you start losing
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in your 20s your collagen. Really.
Yes, just just the women though,because men don't seem to have
the same problems that women don't it.
Comes to that, you know I'm betting that part of it is and
probably why it took longer for me is the more men are
exercising moving so but I'm I'mI'm going to say that you're
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losing collagen as well so I do take we do have a product that's
a clean marine collagen that is activates fat Browning white fat
to brown. OK, so why is that?
Why is that? Why is that important?
Because, again, not everybody's going to understand.
That I know most people haven't heard of fat brownies.
Very interesting. That's why I'm asking the
question, Leslie. Yeah.
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So you're born with brown fat and as you grow you lose it, and
then you end up with that white fluffy fat like that you don't
want. Right, the love handles.
Yes, I started to say. Well, my daughter and for me,
they're called Muffin Talks. OK, Muffin talks.
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I said love handles too. I think love handles because you
got to get, you got something tohold on to, you know?
Yeah, love handles. So you want.
So scientists had decided up until about 10-11 years ago that
once you lost your brown fat, you lost it and they discovered
that they could actually take white fat and start Beijing it
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making it brown. So you want brown fat because
it's a smaller lipid and it's easier for your body to burn.
It's what gives you energy. And I actually have one sitting
here because. So I just put this in my coffee
in the morning. Or you could put it in tea.
Yeah. And what's interesting is you
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actually have heard of fat brailline.
You just didn't realize why people are doing it.
It's the cold plunge craze. Oh, yes, yes.
The goal is is to activate the cells to create brown fat which
helps protect you for warmth. Now for me, cold plunging?
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No thanks. Yeah, yeah.
What? And it's not very good for?
There's some recent research in the last few months that show
cold plunging isn't actually very good for women.
Men, yes. Yeah.
And I think. Women know what has to do with
your cycle and. Sure got.
You various different functions of the body, but you do want you
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do want to activate your your brown fat.
And so this product actually is part of our line as well.
And it comes from Taiwan. That's where the research was
done, where the scientists discovered that you could
activate white fat and convert it to brown.
And it's leaner. So I actually have photos of
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people that are in shape. They've got some inflammation
and it it's, you could visibly see how it tightened up.
OK, Yeah, we've learned about inflammation with with breads
and bad starches. Yes.
So we had a health, a health, a health Wellness coach on and
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then our fitness guy Nate Palmerwas on Peter Ho and Peter
Palmer, Peter Palmer, Nate Palmer and Peter Ho.
But because of that episode, I, my wife and I stopped eating
breads and crackers, which suck because we love Ritz crackers.
Ritz crackers are so bad for you.
Oh my God. I didn't even know till I looked
it up. It's like insane.
So we stopped doing all that purposely because I have
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degenerating vertebrae in my neck.
So I wanted to see if the inflammation part of it would go
away and it it Oh my gosh, like it within two weeks, I could see
a difference of the of the pain that was coming out of the neck
because the inflammation went away.
So definitely a big difference on that just from stopping the
bad starches and the crackers and things like that and trying
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to go more, not completely WholeFoods, but more of a Whole Foods
approach. I I we call it mindful eating.
I like that. I, I, it's not that I don't ever
do crackers or starch, but I'm mindful about it.
It's like not an everyday occurrence or not that I don't
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ever have a dessert, but it's just it's.
Every single meal, right? Yeah, I like that.
Yeah. I call it lifestyle change
because to me, people will diet,diet, diet.
Well, diets fail, lifestyles don't.
If you adjust your lifestyle, then you know everything's works
better. So we have the, the topical
cream that you use that energizes and, and helps the
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collagen and tighten the face and, and the baby, the baby's
stem. A cell helps develop that you
have the the you just drop the bomb on the is it it's a
supplement to help burn the turnthe brown to white fat, which is
good. And what was and you had two
other things you talked about when you started.
What were those two other concepts?
Products. This was just a so in the skin
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care industry, you have this thing where they say, oh, skin
care for your 20s, your 30s, your 40s, your 50s.
You're a man. You're, you know, skin is skin.
But the challenge is, so one of my brothers who's a biochemist
and a neuroscientist who who works with me, that's another
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story. He's a martial artist and he he
didn't want to move with his labback to Harvard, to Boston.
He wanted to stay in Texas for family.
But what he said to me made so much sense, 'cause after he did
research, 'cause he never researched again.
He said most everything on the market is masking symptoms.
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Oh, and these these day and night cream, the reason they
work on African American, Caucasian, Latin Indian oily dry
is because they're working in the skin.
Oh, OK, so you're the skin is skin.
That's right, right. So we actually launched and did
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100 million our first full year with this night cream and and
because we disrupted the space and men love it because men will
do one step. Yeah.
You remember when men's skin care broke on the market?
I laughed because they're like 5steps like men.
My husband wasn't even washing his face before me.
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I never knew that until I watched him.
Because you need your face a little bit damp, which is
happens after you wash it. So we're we're at the sink.
We double sink and I look over there and I see him doing like
with a little bit of water to dampen his face.
And I'm like, what are you doing?
Yeah. You're like, OK, Leslie, he's
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using the skin care. Leave him alone.
Do not comment. So he also looks way younger
than it. No one guesses his age.
It's. And how old is he?
He's 78. OK.
And you could see a photo of himon the website.
He he doesn't. And what do?
What do most people think his age is?
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I'm on. Your website guessed him late
50s. OK, so I'm on your website.
Where's the picture of him? Is it the one where you're on
stage? Yes.
The one that's. Probably about 5 or 6 years ago.
OK. Is he?
Is he in the glasses or no glasses?
He has glasses. OK, yeah, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't. And so even five years ago, I
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wouldn't guess he was 73. Yeah.
Right. There's no way.
That's insane. Yeah.
And then the gentleman to the right of you, I'm looking at it
would be to your left. So I highly recommend his book.
He's the CEO of the company. He's the best selling author of
The Slight Edge, Jeff Olson. OK.
And he's is he really like? And real estate, There was a guy
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who's big in real estate online.He did an interview with Jeff.
But real estate, insurance, banking, sports, that is a great
book about the philosophy of us,of business and life.
Really. It's called the Slight Edge, you
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guys. Yeah, so in this picture he's
probably like 102, but he looks like he's.
No, he's the the one picture andthat picture he's probably late
60s. OK, it doesn't, but he doesn't
look it, no. But because he's big into, I
mean, he he does he he also doespeptides, does all the skin
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care, does all of the Wellness products that we have because
the the fat Browning actually has three simple powders that go
together free and probiotic under your tongue before lunch
helps your body properly use carbs and fats.
And then at night, the cleansingcalm.
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So he's using all of that. Nice.
So really it's hacking. You want to look as young as you
feel, in my opinion. So for me it's it's not as much.
Originally it started with our night cream because I wanted to
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get rid of all the discoloration.
Oh, from the swimming. And stuff.
And then I was concerned about the health of my skin because I
had baked the crap out of my skin for decades swimming.
And then as I got older it became about, hey, I want to
look as young as I feel. I feel great.
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Yeah. So.
Yeah, that's fascinating. Yeah.
So. So let's do a little plug so
people can find you again. So the website
islesliehawker.com. Yes.
And it's LESL i.e. H go to Leslie.
Yes, LESL i.e. HOCKER, go to lesliehawker.com.
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I also one of the things that I do is when you go there, I have
a freebie for you on daily Affirmations for Success.
Cool. Very nice.
And, and then let me know, you know, reach out and you can also
find me on Facebook. Right.
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Leslie Hawker. Leslie Hawker on Facebook.
Yes. And you can find me on Instagram
and LinkedIn. Look at that.
So on all on all platforms that you have it.
So just search your name Leslie Hawker and they'll find you.
Facebook, Instagram. Yes they should.
On Instagram and Facebook. I'm actually in a pink shirt.
OK. On on LinkedIn, which I'm not
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quite as active, but on LinkedInI'm there as Leslie Hocker.
You should be a little more active on LinkedIn because you
can open up the door to SO. You know that's an.
Opportunity. People have told me so I'll take
that to heart. Yeah, I've, I've put because I,
I, my real life is, is real estate.
I've been selling houses for 25 years.
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So I've done stuff on LinkedIn and they say, oh, you'll never
get business off LinkedIn. But I've actually gotten
business off. I have AI, forget what it's
called. It's it's a, it's a, it's a
channel within my channel. It's just learning with the real
estate guy. But I've gathered I've garnered
some business off of that just for whatever random topics I did
at the time, which I thought wasinteresting because the same
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concept like back in the day, Instagram, you're not going to
get business on Instagram. And you know, it's a platform to
get business now. So especially with your before
and after stuff, I think if you started posting some before and
after stuff success stories on LinkedIn, you might you might be
surprised because you're going to go after corporate America,
right? And who doesn't want to look
young in corporate America? And you know, what's surprising
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is a lot of men are getting a Botox because they, they don't,
they don't want to, to keep their job.
I guess when they're interviewing or whatever, they
can't ask, how old are you? But people are judged.
Right. That's because that's ageism,
right? You can't be like, like, did you
ever watch the series The Office?
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Yes, yeah. OK, so remember, remember when
when when one of the one of the new off managers came in and
they were trying to change the ageism thing?
So Creed took all the black toner out of the out of the
printer and dyed his hair black,right?
Nothing. And he walks up to Ryan.
The champion's like, what up, bro?
And. They're just like, yeah, it was.
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Something was going on where Michael and I don't remember
what I was exactly, but that wasthat was funny because he was
like, I'm not, I'm not old. Oh, that's hilarious.
I'm younger than everybody else,which is quite the comical
thing. So cool.
So Leslie hawker.com. You can find her on Facebook and
Instagram as well as LinkedIn. I'll search Leslie Hawker life
hacking the keeping yourself look younger with with plant
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based peptides and plant based stem cells.
She's living proof. I forget how old she is, but she
doesn't look it because when shesaid it, it was like there's no
way her husband, you know, I looked at a picture of him from
five years ago and he looks and he was 70.
He's 78 now, so 73 didn't he doesn't look it.
It's all natural. It takes about 90 days to see
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results correct. Actually some people see results
in just a few days. It just depends on your age, how
old you are. In the clinical trials, some
people saw results with the filler Future of filler in two
hours. So the filler, the filler itself
is just kind of you're, it's not, it's not going internally
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like the real fillers, it's justgoing in and filling in the.
It's a topical and it's stimulating, OK, the muscles in
your face and then. It's absorbed, your pores absorb
it. And then it's activating the
baby collagen. I don't know, people realize
it's the baby collagen. You see the volume loss.
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Gotcha. OK, cool.
That's. Awesome, Which you know, we had
as babies. So yes, it's very, it's topical,
but it is working in the skin todo something.
I, I would say give it 90 days. I mean, we do have a 60 day
money back guarantee. So at least give it, at least
give it 60 days something. So then you and you have the day
and night cream. So you put the topical cream on
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how many times? Wash your face morning.
Put it on 2 pumps. Evening put it on 2 pumps and
then your night cream on top, your day cream on top of it.
Top, OK. And then for women, they can put
makeup on on top of that without.
Yeah, OK, OK, cool. That's yes.
Right on. Well, we want to have you back
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and have and then have you bringRon because it'd be fun to have
the the science behind it as well, because Mike and I just
have fascinated with different things.
So I think that would be cool atsome point in time get him on
and you guys can share more of the the science behind
everything. I'd be happy to do that.
He's a lot of fun like you guys.Well, good.
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Well, we, we super appreciate you coming on the show, Leslie.
And again, we'll, we'll share links and stuff when this drops.
I will send you all of the reelsthat we generate from this so
you can share them on all your platforms as well to help
promote your business. And we will do our part to help
you as well. I appreciate that.
It's my pleasure. Thanks for coming on.
All right. See you guys later.
Have a fantastic day. Oh, and hey, before we leave, I
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almost forgot our standard leaving thing.
Hey, don't let the bad days win.Tomorrow is another day.
So if you're feeling depressed and sad and and suicidal, reach
out to somebody. Because somebody does love you,
whether you believe that or not,you know, Go to sleep tonight,
Wake up tomorrow. It's a better day.
Someone will miss you, someone loves you.
Don't leave a hole in their heart because you decided to
vacate this world without talking to somebody.
(46:33):
With that being said, nothing but love.
And I love it. Yeah.
Yeah. Love you, brother.
Love you. Love you too, man.
Love you, Leslie. Thanks for coming on.
Tell Ron. Nice.
To meet you, yeah. Bye.
Great. Day bye.
(47:06):
The place where you will go.
(47:30):
Take a moment. Now you're turning come down
(48:53):
here. You haven't found something, you
see you're saying fuck fighting.Wait for the day when he's
supposed to arrive in a hit for the way the creature we're
playing frown and you should youput it on the almighty man.
(49:16):
You gotta dream who in your lifeto keep our soul in every man.
Take the trail behind your eyes.Feel the soul evolution now.
(49:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Take a moment.
(50:15):
You gotta. You gotta.
You gotta. You gotta.
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