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Prosecutor Bible Study Time : Last One : Prosecutor Jason Simmons

The evidence is overwhelming, an innocent man sits in prison while a corrupt cop is free. 

Washington State Supreme Court committing right rape, King County Prosecutor: Prosecutor Mark Larson, Prosecutor Lisa Johnson, Prosecutor Nicole Weston, Prosecutor Rich Anderson and Prosecutor Jason Simmons. Judge Beth M. Andrus, Judge Lori K. Smith, Prosecutor Leesa Manion, King County Prosecutors Office, City of Enumclaw.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Jacob, let's skip the intro and get right to it.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Prosecutor.
Bible study time is ended,ended without repentance, ended
without justice done, endedwithout truth in King County
courts.
Let their choices be sealed inGod's court.
Let the curse of his holinessfinish its work.
If anyone does not love theLord, a curse be on him.

(00:33):
Come O Lord.
1 Corinthians 16.22.
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Speaker 1 (00:54):
Jacob, it looks like we're going to need to stop.
Prosecutor Bible study timeDoesn't mean we're not going to
talk about the trial, doesn'tmean we won't go into some other
areas.
Study time Doesn't mean we'renot going to talk about the
trial, doesn't mean we won't gointo some other areas.
But the whole prosecutor Biblestudy time has got to come to an
end for one simple reasonNobody's repenting.
To press on and go further, I'dhave to go into why you need to

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be saved, how to be saved andto become a disciple of Jesus.
And there ain't nobody inSeattle, king County, washington
that appears to actually wantto repent.
How's it going, jacob?
Jacob, all right.
How are you, darrell Bock,doing?
All right?
Looking at Proverbs 18, 5, whichsays and it's so obvious, it's

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amazing how God has to teach us,but we're all children,
including myself.
It says it is not good to bepartial to the wicked or to
deprive the innocent of justice.
Not a smart move.
But King County prosecutors did, judge Lori K Smith, beth
Andrews, a whole host of otherpeople did.
Just was not very, shall we say, smart.

(02:02):
Jacob question you knowProsecutor Simmons and Judge
Laurie K Smith.
They hammered the homeschoolthing.
You know the prejudice againsthomeschool that they don't do
anything.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
They don't do anything.
Every day is the same.
She was homeschooled.
This explains it.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Bored out of her mind and just a zombie and mentally
gone because she washomeschooled.
This explains it bored out ofher mind and just a zombie and
mentally gone because she washomeschooled.
Well, you know, the question Ihave is how did he know that it
was safe to bring up andridicule homeschool in front of
a whole group of juries?
What if there had been two orthree people that actually
homeschooled their childrensitting on the jury?

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Would that have worked?

Speaker 3 (02:47):
um no, no, you, he, uh.
He had to know it was a a safespace or yeah, like it would be
okay to slam homeschools.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
The way he did it so hard, so harsh, harsh and, of
course, total unreality.
It didn't even reflect thetruth of what went on.
Sound Dr Church, let alone byamong homeschoolers.
He played to the usualprejudice, but the only way he
would have known that it wassafe to go lock and hammer for
that was he knew nobody sittingon that jury homeschooled their

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children or associated withpeople who homeschooled their
children.
So he cheated.
Oh, of course, this thing was acheat from beginning to end.
There was nothing fair about it.
We're going to look at a trialhere at the end.
And it was more fair as backduring roman's time than what
happened today.
And we found out.
I did some hell.
I've been digging a lot ofresearch, doing freedom,

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information requests, digging,digging around and asking Kind
of, and some people, you kind ofkeep coming at the question
because they just don't want toanswer.
Well, one of the questions wewere after was well, what rules
do judges have to follow when itcomes to selecting who sits on
a jury?
Okay, yeah, they didn't want toanswer, which is normal.

(04:04):
I mean, sometimes they'llanswer things that are clear or
whatever, but in this particularcase, we had to keep coming
back at it again and again,finally, because you're going
well, give me the list, you know, give me the check box and
point me to the rules and showme there.
So we're really hammeringbecause we're just not getting
an answer.
Finally, finally, we get ananswer and the answer is this

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there are no rules that judgeshave to follow.
In fact, the quote was it's upto the judge.
Whatever they want to do, well,they're just making it up.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
They literally there's no guidelines, there's
none whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
There's not even case law.
What about?

Speaker 3 (04:43):
case law from the past Case law.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
No don't even have that.
No just willy-nilly.
It was not like we got amessage back saying, well, they
follow case law and they followthe Constitution, and there's
things built into the Washingtonstate legal system by which the
judges are confined and have tomaintain an independent type
structure for a jury pool.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
None of that.
To make sure it's fair andunbiased, correct, they didn't
even say anything like that.
Nope, simply was you know pushcome to shove.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
There was no lot of extra words, it simply was.
It's totally up to the judge.
Crazy, now people really needto think about that.
The next time you see a copthat you know is guilty that
gets off, you can blame thejudge and the prosecutor because
they're allowed to do anymechanism whatsoever.
I mean, they can sit there anddo little pop-up dice, throw
cards, do whatever they want todo to pick a jury, and they're

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in cahoots completely with theprosecutors.
They know what they were doing.
This case especially reallyhoned in that they were after
the church.
It had nothing to do with thetrial.
In fact, if you were listeningto this, you have to understand
this trial had nothing to dowith the facts of the accused
crime.
It was a false accusation,totally provable, to take down a

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church or a Christianity thatthe Washington state did not
agree with.
You can go back and listen toall the podcasts, look at the
evidence.
That's just overwhelming.
But it was amazing to learnthat.
You can go back and listen toall the podcasts, look at the
evidence.
That that's just overwhelming.
But it was amazing to learnthat they can do whatever they
want.
So now you know why dirty copswalk free.
Now you know why.
Uh, lisa manning, theprosecutor, was able to come to
the conclusion that 22 000emails just got deleted by

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accident and everybody was justtoo stupid.
We'll get into that later, butit's totally a cheat from get-go
to beginning.
When you serve on jury duty,keep that in mind, that they are
cheating, lying, they areinducing false accusations.
They are just making up stories.
In fact, prosecutor Simmons, ashe talked about St Dr Church, it

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was no reflection of our churchand they offered no proof of
all the accusations.
They were saying he would go,yeah, homeschooling.
She was isolated, she wasseparated, she had no friends,
she was like this zombiecharacter.
She was just trapped, and theycouldn't use the cult word, but
trapped in this cult.
There was no proof, no, noproof whatsoever.

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All right, how do you like thatlittle bit of wisdom to know
what's going on in King County?
Jacob, it is, it's wild.
I haven't discovered one honestthing they actually have done,
and that's not coming from bias,that's just the facts.
I would have loved to find onething to go okay, yeah, this is
factual, this is truthful, thisis legal, this is proper.

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But I couldn't find any.
Can you think?

Speaker 3 (07:27):
of any.
No, it's just so dirty.
It's literally like the mob,you know as far as mafia days,
and they all are just vying formoney and power and their agenda
.
That's what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
And I'm sorry I got to correct you from my books and
reading on the mob.
They have tighter rules.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Oh yeah, the mob had more structure.
Like you can only whack a guywith this and these are the
rules.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
If you do this if you fail here this happens.
It was pretty laid out.
I'm not telling you that themob are squeaky clean, but from
what my examination is, the mobare squeaky clean, but from what
my examination is, they're moreor they were more structured
and put together than kingcounty courts by far.
I mean, after all, you've gotjudge laurie, kate smith and
prosecutor simmons going oh,let's just do away with the

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constitution of washingtonconcerning freedom of religion.
Oh, yeah, yeah, let's just dothat, just just on the whim,
like as fast as you can do it.
No real discussion, discussion,nothing.
Again, I don't want to go overthe whole thing, but people
don't understand jury duty is adog and pony show.
It's meaningless.
In fact it's less thanmeaningless.
It deprives the innocent ofjustice and they put innocent

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people on trial that shouldnever even go to trial.
In fact, in this particulartrial, you know I was never
interested in a fair trial, evertrial.
You know I was never interestedin a fair trial ever.
I was interested in an honesttrial which meant detective
grant mccall and hisco-conspirator to start with
would have been the ones ontrial.
So I don't even want to hearanybody come back from king

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county and go well, yeah, youneeded an honest trial.
No, the trial should have neverhappened because the crime was
somewhere else.
We were not the crime.
The state of Washington, thecity of Enumclaw, the people
that were involved in this hatecrime, that's where the crime is
and those are the people thatshould have been put on trial.
But of course, king Countydoesn't prosecute people who lie
.
They invite people to lie.

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So I'm repeating myself butsuppose you just walk into the
lovely daycare centers and yougo, all of you kids can lie and
nobody will be punished, becausewe're looking for people that
actually do other stuff.
What do you think would happen?
um, everybody would just lienon-stop yeah, it actually would

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be what it is?
A total, complete mess, exactly.
All right, go ahead and playthe dog and pony show, because
it's not just me that'sreferring to.
Jury duty is a dog and ponyshow, it's king, county
prosecutors, jury selection,october 2006, washington state,
seattle, king county prosecutors, courtroom 4g.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
prosecutor paul sewell, have you been selected
for jury duty in the past?
Then you have been through thisdog and pony show before the
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Speaker 1 (10:15):
wwwconsiderinfo the next section.
Here jacob is kind of cute inan evil sort of way and we're
repeating a little bit.
But this is the fundamentallevel.
This is where things gotstarted.
This is City of EnumclawDetective Grant McCall, and this

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is some of the first lines hestates in the courtroom and he's
lying and Beth Andrewsjustifies the lie and
whitewashes it.
But we need to listen very,very carefully and I'll probably
have you play this a coupletimes as we discuss it.
Listen carefully to what thisdetective is saying.
Go ahead and play that, Jacob.

Speaker 6 (11:01):
When a new church comes into a community, the
first thing they do is send outflyers to everybody and say
we're in the church and we'dlike people to come.
We have this, going on, this,going on this, going on a bunch
of things.
Their group at the time theycame into Enumclaw, we didn't
even know they were there, theyjust came in.
Their group at the time theycame into Enumclaw, we didn't

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even know they were there, theyjust came in.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
We didn't even know they were there.

Speaker 6 (11:30):
They just came in.
They just came in.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Jacob, how'd you like the way he was dressed?

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Um, he looked like a pretty sharp dresser.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, why didn't he have his uniform on?
Um, I don't know.
Well, for one thing, the cityof Yom Kippur paid, as far as we
can determine, at least $50,000to clean up his little speech.
So, rather than come in on this, because in the what am I
trying to say?
The hearing for misconduct.

(12:03):
Misconduct hearing yes in theum, what I'm trying to say, the
hearing from this misconducthearing, yes, and he really was
coming across as the bigotedfool that he was, and he was the
evidence, both of them there.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
He was a bigoted fool , but go ahead.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, I hear you I mean we've got, we've got lines
and quotes from both, butabsolutely the.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
The other one was unfiltered.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Unfiltered raw, exactly who he was, the
self-arrogance, the lies, it wasall back and forth.
Oh yeah, you can only clean itup so much.
It's just extremely goading atthe injustice that City of
Enumclaw can sit there andmanipulate evidence, wipe the
blood off the knife, so to speak.
And then of course they deletedall the evidence they had later

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on when I tried to get that andyou know they quote the law but
of course they knew he was theevidence.
That's why you're paying anoutside legal force to clean up
his act.
So he comes in in this nicegray I don't know if it's
flannel, but kind of a grain.
And what was it?
A kind of a?
What kind of?
I'm trying to think of thecolor periwinkle tie.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Um here I'll got the crew cut and he's coming.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, it's like a soft periwinkle yeah, and how do
you like the notebook in frontof him, isn't that?

Speaker 3 (13:16):
cute, that is cute.
Well, I think, well, I think,uh, somebody placed that in
front of him for reference orsomething.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
It could be, but I can't remember.
You were there in the courtroom.
Did they Somebody else put itthere or did he bring it there?

Speaker 3 (13:32):
No, because he was fumbling around all over the
place.
Oh, oh, oh, I can't.
If you had a dollar for everytime he went.
I don't remember, I don'tremember.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
That's right.
I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
So, no, so Ann would whip out these massive notebooks
because he can't rememberanything.
If you asked him what he hadfor breakfast, he probably
wouldn't have known.
So she whips out thesenotebooks and says on this page
this is what you said, that'swhat the notebook is from.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Okay, yeah, I got it, got it.
I'm glad you reminded me.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Anyways, not to go off on a tangent, but that's
where the notebooks came from.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
No, no, no, I'm glad you corrected me.
I tell you there's so muchinjustice here.
I don't want to say anythingthat isn't actually factual, but
it's very hard to keep it allstraight.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Oh, yes, yeah.
His lies and the way he talksis crazy.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
And the whole system and what's going on, so it's a
complete mess.
People need to think about whathe's saying.
Quote when a new church comesinto the community, the first
thing they do is pass out flyersand do all these things.
But we didn't even know theywere there.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
We didn't know they were there.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Has the state of Washington never heard of the
Constitution of the UnitedStates?
I mean what kind of policepeople do?
Well, clearly they have.
And Judge Laurie Kate Smithjust goes yeah, it doesn't apply
, whatever, just get it out ofhere.
You can see why.
He's sitting in a court of law,literally saying that when we

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showed up to start the church inEnumclaw, we were supposed to
notify who Him, the Chamber ofCommerce, or you know.
We've been there four days andwe're supposed to pass out
flyers.
What exactly is he saying?
But that's you know.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
We can even discuss that, but that he's even allowed
to say it Correct Because, well, you know, part of this is
still his religious bias.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, but he's saying it in a court of law.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Oh no, I agree, it's absolutely nuts.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
That's like saying I think they're Jews and they
should be gassed, and thennobody says anything Correct,
and I'm not over-exaggerating.
He's got no place holding thatopinion.
No, as a policeman hedefinitely should have been
fired before, because this isn'tthe first time that he's come

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out with.
And, second of all, he's lying.
He knew we were there and we'vegot the proof to have that
anyway, so he's lying up front.
But the point is, think aboutif and this is what's going on
behind the scenes.
So you've got all these policein Washington State and all
these prosecutors and all thesejudges.
Though they can't say it,though they're not sitting in
that place, they're thinking weneed to know exactly what all

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Christian churches are doing atall time and they just can't
show up.
Correct?
I don't want to move too fasthere.
Play this again.
And I don't care who you are,whether you're a christian or
not, you need to wake up any any, any religious freedom, even if
you were a muslim or you knowwhatever you wanted to be.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, does the american constitution, you know?
Do we follow it or not?
Because it's religious freedomthat we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
And this is way beyond religion freedom.
This is just showing up to town, correct?
This is like I'm traveling fromlet's see, enumclaw to southern
Seattle.
I'm supposed to let southernSeattle know that I'm with a
church and that I'm coming intotown.
Mm-hmm, that he's even gettingby with this and nobody's
grabbing the vomit bags in frontof the court.

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I call them pews, court pews.
He's got no business evengetting close to this.
Yet you got a jury going.
Oh yeah, he must be guilty.
They just showed up to town.
Has nothing to do with thecrime in the first place.
Like if I had showed up to youknow what if we'd have showed up
let's say we'd have showed upon the first day and the next
day we're passing out flyers.
What do you think theaccusation would have been?

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They're showing everybody'sface, they're pushing, they're
disturbing the peace.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
He's pushing their tracks.
They're all doing his bidding.
You didn't see him out in thestreet?
It would go on and on and and Idon't want to emphasize he's
not just saying this to say thishe literally believes.
He literally believes that wewere supposed to, in some
abstract fashion, notify him andeven call police and I don't

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know who all else in the townand everybody that lived there,
that we were there by havingflyers and stating that we had
all these events going on.
That's literally what he'ssaying.
Those are his words.
Yes, you know, you might aswell just said the earth is flat
, because this is not evenlogical.
We literally could show up totown and we're not even given 48

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hours to get organized.
We show up to town.
We don't have a place to live.
We're looking for a place, butwe're going to hold a picnic.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Any comments?
We don't have a place to live.
We're looking for, but we'regoing to hold a picnic.
Any comments on that, jacob?
No, this is just how seriousthe washington state supreme
court has right rapedchristianity and there aren't
going to be enough people to.
I mean, after all, they votefor bob ferguson on, and what's
the main reason they vote forhim, jacob?
The abortion.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Oh sure.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Push comes to shove.
That's one of the main things.
So I mean, if you're writing inon the blood of children,
church freedom doesn't reallymean anything.
Play it one more time and thenwe're going to go into another
little lie that a city ofEngland called Detective Grant
McCall decided that he was thejudge and jury on.

Speaker 6 (19:09):
When a new church comes into a community, the
first thing they do is send outflyers to everybody and say
we're in the church and we'dlike people to come.
We have this, going on, this,going on this, going on a bunch
of things.
Their group at the time theycame into Enumclaw, we didn't
even know they were there, theyjust came in.
Their group at the time theycame into Enumclaw, we didn't

(19:32):
even know they were there, theyjust came in.
We didn't even know they werethere, they just came in.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
They just came in, everybody get together and
figure out what all those otherthings you're supposed to be
doing that you have to announceand do, because that's the
attitude of the police inWashington State.
Clearly, because he's not beenostracized, he was promoted.
So clearly they approve of whathe's saying here.
Okay, let's press on to.

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Okay, let's press on to it.
Didn't take long for his liesto get exposed, even in the
court.
Correct, jacob.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Correct.
Oh yeah, as soon as you askkind of any questions at all, it
doesn't go well.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Correct the only people again who's picking the
jury Judge Lori K Smith and theprosecutors.
So you're not getting thesmartest group of people sitting
there.
In fact, you're going to getthe people that are the most in
favor of the state to sit onthat, and I'm putting it nicely,
all right.
So let's play this next clipand let's watch Beth Andrews

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here as she listens to him liewithin a 20 minute period.
Go ahead and play that, jacob.

Speaker 7 (20:51):
Well, the entire case revolves around a couple of
things.
One of them is the church as awhole.
We've received complaints frompeople about the church.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Okay, hang on a second.
Okay, anything you want to say,jacob, before I dive into this.
No, go ahead.
Look at his attitude.
We've received complaints aboutthe church.
What is he?
The pope of the city ofEnumclaw?
Yeah, pope of the city ofenumclaw, yeah, and since when
is a church being complainedabout?

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Grounds for any type of makingthat criminal?

Speaker 3 (21:32):
correct.
Yeah, how does that translateover to something illegal it?
Doesn't, and he's stating thisbefore beth andrews, as if this
were an important point correct,as if this is a valid reason
why he did the things that hedid Correct.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Because it's a misconduct here.
So that means what all theother churches in Washington
State aren't receivingcomplaints.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Yeah, I know exactly.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Well, let me refer to that for you.
Probably not, because 99% ofmost people, if they called a
police station and said I don'tlike the Jehovah's Witness, or I
don't like the Mormons, or Idon't like the Baptists, what is
the average police stationgoing to do?
Not our problem sir.

(22:20):
Not our problem.
Grow up, go get a life, go away, don't bug us again, right,
correct?
Not our problem.
Grow up, go get a life, go away, don't bug us again.
Right, correct.
But not in this case.
Because the city of enumclawand detective grant mccall was a
magnet for liars so he waswilling to receive all of these
calls.
I mean, when we made acomplaint.
Oh well, it's not happening,it's not our business, we're not
going to deal with it.
Yeah, they certainly pushed usoff, correct?

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So then he's sitting beforeBeth Andrews here going.
Yeah, I'm going to present mymost valuable facts as to why
this case of a man falselyaccused of a sexual crime is
guilty.
I'm going to present to you thething you need to pay attention
to, judge Beth Andrews, and youknow what it is.

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You know what it is, bethAndrews, do you know?
Do you know?
We have received complaintsabout the?

Speaker 3 (23:08):
church Dun dun dun.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Oh, really Not.
Well, what are the complaints?
Who made the complaints?
How were the complaints dealtwith?
None of that fact.
It's just we receivedcomplaints and Beth Andrews is
going okay.
So you've received complaints.
I get it.
They're evil, they're bad.
You're a cop.
Therefore, you never lie, younever say anything wrong and we
don't hold you to anyaccountability.
So, okay, fine, You're free tosit here and use Washington
State's court system to belittlea church because they receive

(23:41):
complaints.
Uh-huh, Start from thebeginning and let's play it
again.

Speaker 7 (23:49):
Well, the entire case revolves around a couple of
things.
One of them is the church as awhole.
Okay, stop it right there.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
I covered the second part of the first part this
whole case you correct me if I'mwrong, Jacob.
This whole case, the falseaccusations toward malcolm
fraser, the whole case aboutthat accusation revolves around
what?

Speaker 3 (24:16):
jacob, a couple things.
There's a couple things here,okay what are those couple
things?

Speaker 1 (24:23):
well, I Well.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
I don't know what, the second one, but one, one of
them.
So out of the two there's two,and one is we have received
complaints Back up.
Oh, the church as a whole,you're technically correct.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
You applied logic to the situation.
I'm looking at his two and Icould be wrong.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
One would be well, his words are two yeah, yeah,
it's the whole church, butthat's, that's not really that's
a redundant point to thecomplaint.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
So really you only got one.
I hear what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
This is nonsensical but in his words, yeah, the, the
church as a whole.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
That was his words to To Beth Andrews, sitting right
there.
You can see her right there inthe video.
Yes, whatever she's doing there, taking notes, listening, like
waiting for it to get over with.
I can't guarantee you what'sgoing on in her mind at this
point.
But the church as a whole,right, uh-huh.
As we've made very, very clear,we have evidence of this was a

(25:30):
hate crime instigated by aco-conspirator and grant mccall.
They wanted this accusation tobring down the whole church.
King county prosecutors had toknow that all the evidence
pointed to the crime could nothave happened, but they were
willing to use that to take downthe church and that's been made
clear all along.
All right, so he's lying.
Any comments before we finishthis video?

(25:51):
No, keep going then.

Speaker 7 (25:54):
Keep playing the church as a whole we've received
complaints from people aboutthe church.
So the sound doctrine churchreally doesn't have anything to
do with the investigation at all.
It's just that some of thespiritual things involved to
kind of muddy the waters alittle bit have muddied the
waters.
But the sound doctrine churchhas got really nothing to do

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with these allegations at all.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Nothing and he's done Nothing at all and it's nothing
at all.
And then it's quiet, there'slike a pause as he looks because
that's the Nothing at all,nothing at all.
And then it's quiet, there'slike a pause as he looks because
that's the end of his statement.
He's just done, yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
And you notice he is an expert liar because if you
watch in the beginning his faceis not looking toward the judge.
Yes, he's talking more to thecourtroom, probably to the jury
kind of thing, right?

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Well no, there's no jury there.
This is a misconduct jury Okay,misconduct.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
So right now he's looking over at.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Ann who's asking her questions.
She's the one that gets to askhim questions and he's just
talking to the entire court,whoever's there.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Well, here's my and I'm going to rephrase it this
way my valid point when he turnsto lie, he turns and looks at
her, looks at who he's lookingat the judge.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
No, he's not right now he's looking to the side,
keep playing.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Does he not turn and look at her?

Speaker 3 (27:18):
No, well, it just ends.
I don't know what's oh rightthere.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Right there he's looking at her.
Yes, yeah, yeah, okay, sowhat's your favorite?

Speaker 3 (27:27):
phrase.
Jacob, I don't know what's myfavorite phrase You're right, oh
, you're right.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yes, oh well, yeah, okay, yes, you are correct.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
You are correct.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Yes, he's looking right at the judge.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yes, Okay, making contact, making emphasis that
this lie is true.
Yeah, it's classic lyingbehavior.
And again, feel free to correctme at any time.
I cannot keep all this straightbecause I'm not an expert liar,
I don't even try.
All right, have we hammered in?
Think about this.
This is like full-blown on lie.

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Yes, first, this case hastotally to do with the church.
20 minutes later, when thatstarts getting exposed by the
defense attorney, he, herealizes hey, this is not
looking good.
So that what he does is heslings and says the complete
opposite, correct, correct, thecomplete opposite.

(28:24):
You have proof right here thathe lies about everything and it
all has to do with taking downthe church.
And it worked.
I mean, I have to give himcredit, it did work.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Now.
So what Beth Andrews does isshe's really boxing a corner.
Clearly, our cameras are in theroom and it's clear he's done
misconduct.
I mean there was a lot of otherthings to this aspect but she
whitewashes all the lies.
She'll sit there and go.
Well, I'm pretty confident thathe was doing the best, that he

(28:56):
thought and we won't get intothat.
We've covered that before.
So this all gets whitewashed.
But she knows he's lying.
She knows he's lying.
She knows he's flat out lying.
You can see it on her face.
Now I zoomed in and I took somestills of this.
And let's just zoom in and lookat her face.
You tell me that's not a facethat goes.

(29:17):
What am I hearing here?
Yes, now you correct me wrong,but that looks either one of two
things she's got some illnessor something.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
I know she doesn't have an illness.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Okay, she's like I can't believe what I'm hearing.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, this guy is crazy yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Loony, but then she still whitewashes it.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, I think isn't thereanother couple Zooms?
Keep going in there it.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Oh yeah, I think isn't there another couple Zooms
, keep going in there.
It's just kind of maybe not.
This is the big.
Yeah, oh, this is very clear,it'll be big on the screen.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
It just goes downhill from there.
I mean, if you're going towhitewash this kind of bad
character of a cop, there's noway you're going to get a fair
trial.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
No.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
You're not even going to get a fair trial.
No, you're not even going toget.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
And when I say fair trial, that's a long way from an
honest trial.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, that's yeah.
An honest trial is impossible,impossible.
You can't, it's impossible.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
They won't allow it, the very laws or the way they
twist them and things they leaveout.
It's just not feasible.
Just so happened in thisparticular trial.
It got sharply into focusbecause we didn't bow down to
all their corruption.
All right, jacob, any otherthoughts on that?
I don't want to leave that tooquick because people again I'm

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repeating, but I'm trying toslow down here Think about what
you're hearing and seeing andwhat McCall is getting by with.
If Beth Andrews and then laterJudge Lori K Smith are letting
this man with these kinds oflies and corruption we've just
looked at a couple to falselyaccuse somebody else and take

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down a whole church and drivethem from the city of Enumclaw.
People just need to wake up tojust how much corruption is
going on.
It's unfathomable, it really is.
It is Jacob.
Let's play the next section andlet's get rolling.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
The following Seattle-Keene County prosecutors
violated every right andfundamental rule of law are
Prosecutor Mark Larson.
Prosecutor Lisa Johnson.
Prosecutor Nicole Weston.
Prosecutor Rich Anderson.
Prosecutor Jason Simmons.

(31:47):
The following Washington statejudges foundationally destroyed
rules of investigations andrealities of logic are as
follows Chief Judge Beth MAndrus.
Chief Judge Lori K Smith.
Isaiah 59.4 no one calls forjustice, no one pleads his case

(32:11):
with integrity.
They rely on empty argumentsand speak lies.
They conceive trouble and givebirth to evil.
The Consider Podcast Examiningtoday's wisdom, folly and

(32:34):
madness wwwconsiderinfo.
Considerinfo the Living God'sJustice vs Corrupt Washington
State Courts Another duh that isa dud with King County
prosecutors of Seattle.
Washington Prosecutors socorrupt they refuse to prosecute

(32:58):
those who make falseaccusations.
Proverbs 12, 17 A truthfulwitness gives honest testimony,
but a false witness tells lies.
Who will win the living God'sjustice versus corrupt
Washington state courts?
The Consider Podcast Examiningtoday's wisdom, folly and

(33:24):
madness wwwconsiderinfo.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Thought we'd end this prosecutor's study Bible study
time by looking at a trial inthe New Testament.
Jacob, you know much aboutRoman law um no, not really not
me, really, really.
But I have listened to somehistorical novels.

(33:56):
One of them is by robert harris.
Actually he's got three of them.
They're pretty good.
He goes off the end later on insome other books, but anyway,
one of them's called imperiumand it's a novel of ancient Rome
by Robert Harris and it givesyou an idea of all the
corruptions and the interactionsand the things that went on and
it's quite.

(34:17):
He does a good job ofdescribing it.
Now, my point here is that we'regoing to contrast here in just
a second what Paul faced when hewas in trial with Rome compared
to what we went through.
And I know it's two differenttime periods, but we're going to
see that even with all thecorruptions in Rome and all the
legal things that changed andthat's a broad period of time,

(34:39):
of course Paul got a fairertrial than we did.
Go ahead and play we're goingto play the scripture now that
we're going to talk about andthen we're going to come back at
it because it's a little bitlong, so just sit back, relax,
take in what the Word of God issaying and let it cleanse you
and look over you.
Then we're going to come backand compare that to what's going
on today.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
Acts 26, 1 through 32 .
Then Agrippa said to Paul Acts26.1-32.
Then Agrippa said to Paul youhave permission to speak for
yourself.
So Paul motioned with his handand began his defense.
King Agrippa, I consider myselffortunate to stand before you
today as I make my defenseagainst all the accusations of
the Jews, and especially sobecause you are well acquainted

(35:23):
with all the Jewish customs andcontroversies.
Therefore, I beg you to listento me patiently.
The Jews all know the way Ihave lived ever since I was a
child, from the beginning of mylife, in my own country and also
in Jerusalem.
They have known me for a longtime and can testify, if they
are willing, that according tothe strictest sect of our
religion, I lived as a Pharisee.

(35:45):
And now it is because of myhope and what God has promised
our fathers that I am on trialtoday.
This is the promise our twelvetribes are hoping to see
fulfilled, as they earnestlyserve God day and night.
Okay, it is because of thishope that the Jews are accusing
me.
Why should any of you considerit incredible that God raises
the dead?

(36:06):
I too was convinced that I oughtto do all that was possible to
oppose the name of Jesus ofNazareth.
And that is just what I did inJerusalem.
On the authority of the chiefpriests, I put many of the
saints in prison, and when theywere put to death, I cast my
vote against them.
Many a time, I went from onesynagogue to another to have
them punished, and I tried toforce them to blaspheme.

(36:28):
In my obsession against them, Ieven went to foreign cities to
persecute them.
On one of those journeys, I wasgoing to Damascus with the
authority and commission of thechief priests.
About noon, o King, as I was onthe road, I saw a light from
heaven, brighter than the sun,blazing around me and my
companions.

(36:49):
We all fell to the ground and Iheard a voice saying to me in
Aramaic Saul, saul, why do youpersecute me?
It is hard for you to kickagainst the goads.
Then I asked who are you, lord?
I am Jesus, whom you arepersecuting.

(37:27):
The Lord replied.
Then I asked and from theGentiles?
I am sending you to them toopen their eyes and turn them
from darkness to light and fromthe power of Satan to God, so
that they may receiveforgiveness of sins and a place
among those who are sanctifiedby faith in me.
So then, king Agrippa, I wasnot disobedient to the vision
from heaven, first to those inDamascus, then to those in
Jerusalem and in all Judea, andto the Gentiles also.

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I preached that they shouldrepent and turn to God and prove
their repentance by their deeds.
That is why the Jews seized mein the temple courts and tried
to kill me, but I have had God'shelp to this very day, and so I
stand here and testify to smalland great alike.
I am saying nothing beyond whatthe prophets and Moses said

(38:10):
would happen that the Christwould suffer and, as the first
arise from the dead, wouldproclaim light to his own people
and to the Gentiles.
At this point Festus interruptedPaul's defense.
You are out of your mind, paul,he shouted.
Your great learning is drivingyou insane.
I am not insane, most excellentFestus.

(38:31):
Paul replied what I am sayingis true and reasonable.
The king is familiar with thesethings and I can speak freely
to him.
I am convinced that none ofthis has escaped his notice
because it was not done in acorner.
King Agrippa, do you believethe prophets?
I know you do.
Then Agrippa said to Paul doyou think that in such a short

(38:54):
time you can persuade me to be aChristian.

(39:16):
Paul replied another.
They said this man is not doinganything that deserves death or
imprisonment.
Agrippa said to festus this mancould have been set free if he
had not appealed to caesar wedon't have time to go through
this completely.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
We may or may not come back to it in more detail
once we start looking at justice.
I don't know exactly for surewhat god will have us do next,
but all right, you kind of getthe situation there right, jacob
.
Again, we may come back to thiswhole.
There's a lot here we don'thave time for.
But let's look at Acts, chapter26, verse 1.

(39:53):
What do you notice right upfront, jacob?
Go ahead and read that verse 1,and what kind of jumps out at
you, if anything?

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Then Agrippa said to Paul, you have permission to
speak for yourself.
So Paul motioned with his handand began his defense.
Anything just jump out at you,it seems.
It does seem to be a veryhonest and open courtroom.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
You got it.
He's able to represent himselfin this court of law and get his
points across.
Can you imagine if malcolmfraser would have said well,
your honor, I'm just going torepresent myself.
I mean, the prosecution wouldhave wet their diapers and judge
laurie k smith would have beenthrilled, right, because then
they just trap you and can walkall over you and nothing going.

(40:44):
But.
But this is at least reasonableenough that agrippa says yeah,
you know, go ahead and speak foryourself.
Let's get going on this thing,right.
Yeah, pretty amazing really, ifyou think about it, especially
in terms of roman law.
All right, verse two says kingagrippa, I consider myself
fortunate to stand before youtoday as I make my defense

(41:04):
against all the accusations ofthe Jews.
Sound familiar, jacob?
All these accusations arefloating out there about sound
doctrine, church and who I am Infact, detective McCall.
What did he receive, jacob?
Complaints, complaints, whichmakes you guilty.
Obviously, if you complain, Iconsider myself fortunate.
Did you were going to saysomething?
No, go ahead.

(41:24):
I consider myself fortunate tostand before you today as I make
my defense against all theaccusations of the Jews.
Now, why does he considerhimself to be fortunate?
Let's go to verse 3.
And especially so becausehere's his fact.
He's not just saying it interms of flattery or just you're
trying to.
You know, go up to the judge.
Oh, judge, you're so smart,you're honorable, let's all

(41:46):
stand up and, you know, do ourthing.
Verse 3.
And especially so because youare well acquainted with all the
Jewish customs andcontroversies.
King County prosecutors keptthemselves ignorant on purpose
and they still have done that tothis day.
They will not look and examineat all the things and the

(42:08):
corruption that went on, buthe's at least before King
Agrippa and King Agrippa, heknows, is well acquainted with
what's all going on.
So he knows there's this wholesea of accusations and wild
stuff and lies going on there.
Right of accusations and wildstuff and lies going on there,
right, and Paul all goes on tosay therefore, I beg you to
listen to me patiently, we couldhave begged.

(42:29):
Well, we did beg.
Did we get any mercy, jacob?
No Time.
Letters, phone calls,conversations, emails everything
that's even been done aftertrial is literally a begging to
listen to me patiently.
See lies and slander and falseaccusations.
They're fast and furious.

(42:49):
You can just go at those bang,bang, bang right, because you
don't have to prove anything butthe truth.
For instance, you can gowalking in the light means.
You tell everybody everythingall day long and everything that
you did, right, mm-hmm.
Okay, in order to explain that,we've had to do several
podcasts.
It would take time.
So the lies come easy.
And then, of course, I repeatit over and over again but no

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prosecutors in the state ofOregon didn't prosecute liars.
They bring them in, they invitethem.
Every false accusation you haveyet to see one woman who made a
false accusation brought totrial and serving prison time.
You're correct.
So what are you going to get?
You're going to get a bunch ofliars.
So king county prosecutors werenot interested in the truth.
They were only interested inone side of the story and how

(43:34):
they could exaggerate that, andwe'll get more into that as we
go on to other issues.
Therefore, I beg you to listento me patiently.
So he goes on to make hisdefense, do it down to verse
five, says they have known mefor a long time and can testify
if they are willing.
That sounds like today'scourtroom, doesn't it?
Yeah, I mean it literally doeslike yeah, if they're willing to

(43:56):
come in and testify for me.
I've got plenty of people thatwould have declared the truth
and that would have happenedright up front.
Now, the longer it went on andKing County prosecutors brought
in the oppressive nature of, andthe unconstitutional and
illegal nature of WashingtonState's application of I can't
even call it the law becauseit's not the law, it's lawless

(44:17):
laws.
People became less and lesswilling to testify, correct?
I mean, remember Simmons isintimidating everybody that just
showed up.
It's lawless laws.
People became less and lesswilling to testify, correct?
I mean, remember Simmons isintimidating everybody that just
shows up in the courtroom tosit down.
Do you recognize any churchmembers?
Can you point them out?
Do their name?
Your name was mentioned timeand time again.
That's nothing but intimidation.

(44:41):
They'd have had a fair chanceto testify in King Agrippa than
we did in King County Court.
So eventually, in JasonSimmons' one, he wore everybody
down.
He was oppressive.
He made it within people'sself-interest to either remain
silent or to lie.
It's the very nature of what wecall injustice and lies, if

(45:01):
they are willing that.
According to the strictest sectof our religion, I lived as a
Pharisee.
Verse 6 says, and now it isbecause of my hope in what God
has promised our fathers thatI'm on trial today.
He brings down the real point.
You've got all these otheraccusations and it would have
been causing riots in Rome andnot worshiping the Caesar.
You can imagine all thedifferent accusations and it
would have been, you know,causing riots in Rome and not

(45:21):
worshiping the Caesar, and allyou know.
You can imagine all thedifferent accusations, right,
but what it really boiled downto, if you looked at the facts
and Paul knows, king Agrippaknows this is the situation what
it comes down to is that Paulhas the hope that God will
deliver his people, rescue themfrom their sin and so on, and

(45:43):
they didn't like hearing thatmessage and we'll get more into
that and that's exactly how itapplies to us also with Sound
Doctor Church.
We'll get to that in a moment,any comments or anything like
that?
No, he goes on to say in verse 7, this is the promise our twelve
tribes are hoping to seefulfilled, as they earnestly
serve God day and night.
Us, our 12 tribes are hoping tosee fulfilled as they earnestly

(46:03):
serve God day and night.
There isn't anything that Ihaven't preached or taught.
That's reasonable and alsowithin the New Testament and the
Old Testament, just verybiblical.
It's how Paul is saying, o king, it is because of this hope
that the Jews are accusing me.
In other words, there's acentral reason why the
accusations are happening.
Verse 8, why should any of youconsider it incredible that God
raises from the dead?
Verse 8, why should any of youconsider it incredible that God
raised us from the dead?
I too, was convinced that Iought to do all that was

(46:24):
possible to impose the name ofJesus Christ.
In other words, he was adetective McCall, and that is
just what I did in Jerusalem.
So he's a man of action.
On the authority of the chiefpriests, I put many of the
saints in prison and when theywere put to death, I cast my
vote for them.
So you kind of get the point isPaul is a policeman, he's a
part of the group, and then heeventually turns from the group.

(46:45):
Well, how do you think they'regoing to like that?

Speaker 3 (46:47):
They're not going to like that.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
No.
So not only are they motivated,they were already motivated to
do away with Christians, toeither cause them to blaspheme
or to fall away or whatever,correct.
But now one of their own hasactually come to Jesus Christ,
they're going to be twice asmotivated, and probably three or
four times as motivated, toshut him up and destroy him.
Correct, correct, and we don'thave time to look at all that

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today.
Acts 26, verse 11, many a timeI went from one synagogue to
another to have them punishedand I tried to force them to
blaspheme.
In my obsession against them, Ieven went to force them to
blaspheme and my obsessionagainst them, I even went to a
foreign city to prosecute them.
This stuff really does become anobsession by people that just
nurse hatred and lies andtwisted facts.

(47:32):
Um well, I can't think of anybetter word.
It really is an obsession.
They just have to destroy andthere's no way around it.
Any comments on that, jacob?
No, all right.
Then he goes on to talk abouthow god comes to him and open
his eyes to the truth, and sowe're going to kind of skip that
at the moment.
Let's go down to verse 18, 17,18.

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God is telling paul I willrescue you from your own people
and from the Gentiles.
Now God promised to rescue Paul, correct Jacob?

Speaker 3 (48:13):
How would an evil prosecutor.
Jason Simmons view thatstatement.
Well, I guess would they mockPaul Paul, just like they mocked
Jesus.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
They would.
Can you think of the way theywould mock him?

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Well, if God is saying I'm going to rescue you
from your own people, but he'scurrently stuck in a courtroom,
it doesn't look like he'scurrently being rescued.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Amen, you're 100% on target.
So it depends on yourperspective and what you're
looking at.
I will rescue you from your ownpeople and from the Gentiles.
Be careful when you mocksomebody that's down, or
supposedly down, in Jesus Christ.
All right, I am sending you tothem to open their eyes and turn
them from darkness to light andfrom the power of Satan to God,

(48:59):
so that they may receiveforgiveness of sins and a place
among those who are sanctifiedby faith in me.
Now, this particular statementdoes it reflect anything about
just ask Jesus Christ as yourpersonal Lord and Savior in your
life?
No, is there anything in hereabout this?
Just admit that you're a sinnerand we're all sinners and we've
all got things we need tochange, and God sees and he

(49:22):
loves you as you are, um, and hewants you to change, be blessed
.
And then, once you're saved,you're like uh prosecutor.
You're like uh city even calleddetective grant mccall that no
matter what you do, you get togo to heaven.
No, no, listen to what it'ssaying.
And since we're still kind oftalking to prosecutor,
prosecutor simmons and judgelaurie k smith and beth andrews

(49:43):
and so on, notice what it saysto open their eyes and turn them
from darkness to light.
All of this is about openingtheir eyes to see what they're
doing.
When you walk in the dark, youdon't know that, what you did.
They believe that like, oh yeah, you know, church should come
into town and pass out flyers,and that's right, getting
marriage is all strengthened,that's evil somewhere.

(50:05):
So, anyway, there's a realdarkness there.
Only God can open their eyesand that's only going to happen
if they humble themselves.
And from the power of Satan toGod, that's what Paul says and
from the power of Satan to God.
So in order to come to Paul'smessage, you have to first admit
what?
That you're blind, right.
And so let me just tell myselfthere's nothing about.

(50:26):
Just ask Jesus in your heartand you're saved.
Right, correct?
You have to admit I am blindand you know what.
This can't be words you mock byyes, lord, I am blind, I can't
see.
You know, if you start to, whenpaul was confronted by jesus
christ in the road, I believe hefell to the ground and he had

(50:47):
to be led by the hand in thecity and we don't have time to
look at.
But this is a powerfulencounter with the living god.
This is not looking at the backof a little track and checking
off a box or, worse yet, open upsome of the bibles they have.
The way to be saved is justpretty much just read the bible
as jesus in your heart and titheyeah, in fact, there's nothing

(51:07):
about, excuse me, tithing inthis.
Turn them from darkness to lightand from the power of satan.
So you have to admit I'm beingcontrolled by satan.
Prosecutor simmons would haveto admit, yeah, I've been
controlled by saying judgelaurie k smith, beth andrews.
These people would have toadmit, yeah, I've been
controlled by Satan.
Judge Laurie K Smith, bethAndrews.
These people would have to cometo the truth about what is
happening spiritually.
And that's just to name threepeople.
Now, the purpose and the goal ofthis is not the hell and

(51:29):
brimstone, because that's howeverybody's looking at this who
doesn't want to come to God?
Oh, he's being oppressive andhe's coming in hard.
No, the reason for this inverse 18 of Acts 26 is so they
may receive forgiveness of sins.
So now, dr Church was all aboutforgiveness of sin in the

(51:49):
context of a faith that comes,or righteousness that comes by
faith let's read on and a placeamong those who are sanctified
by faith in me Picking up yourcross, following Jesus Christ.
Lame deal with sin.
Anything on this?
Jacob?
No, acts, chapter 26, verse 19.
Now Paul's doing something alittle bit subtle.

(52:10):
Here he goes.
So then, king Agrippa, I wasnot disobedient to the vision
from heaven.
You see what he's telling KingAgrippa there, jacob, he's
saying he's coming along, all ofthese things happen to me and
god, deliver me from satan.
You can have all of thesethings happen and then not be
obedient, correct?

(52:31):
Yes, so this is a faith thatcomes from obedience.
You can have all of thesethings presented to you.
Prosecutor jason simmons couldgo okay, logically, all this
fits and all of that's there.
He has a choice.
He can be disobedient to it andsay, okay, I'm going to ignore
this, I'm not going to do it, Idon't want it, or he can

(52:52):
surrender to it.
And what Paul is saying is thiscomes down to obedience, king,
and there's a lot of people thata lot may be a strong word.
There are many people who willacknowledge that this is just
the old time, god, there'snothing that I'm preaching that
is new or just popped on thescene.

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You can get a lot of old booksthat are more powerful
technically and more cuttingtechnically than what I wrote.
It's just we live in a timeperiod when the love of Moses is
going cold.
So any suggestion that youshould you know, obviously be a
male or a female, or actually beobedient or love your children,
in terms of dissuading them anddoing good things to them.
You know all of that.
Just everybody goes ballistic.

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So we're just in that.
Very so my books even thetitles, drive people away.
All right, I was notdisobedient.
He's subtly trying to hint orget to King Agrippa like, yeah,
you got to be obedient to thesethings, right, correct.

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Now verse 20 says first to thosein Damascus, then to those in
Jerusalem and all Judea, and tothe Gentiles also I preach that
they should repent and turn toGod and prove their repentance
by their deeds.
The real reason Sound DoctrineChurch or Timothy Williams, to
bring it into focus for somefolks was put on trial in King
County courts through a proxyprosecution of Malcolm Frazier
by a crime that was impossibleto commit and that was all about
the church.

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But wasn't all about the churchand was because they'd received
complaints and because we justshowed up into town.
And let's go on and on and onis Acts, chapter 26, verse 20.
Had I not preached this and hadI not lived this, none of the
other would have happened.
Correct, jacob?
Correct.
Let me read that to you again.

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First to those in Damascus youcan go back and look at when I
first started preaching, andit's out there, long-winded
stuff.
I don't really recommend it,but it's the same message.
It's the same message, first tothose in Damascus, then to
those in Jerusalem and in allJudea, and to the Gentiles also.
It's one message.
Nothing's changed.
I preach that they shouldrepent and turn to God.

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See, it's only about God.
You've got to repent first, getyour face toward God and then
prove your repentance by yourdeeds.
I probably dare say that thenumber one reason for the
complaints and for all the otherslanders is because of the word
prove.
You have to prove that you're aChristian.
You have to prove.
Why, do you think?
Prosecutor Jason Simmonsdeprived Sound Doctrine Church

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of the right of association?
You had to have their friends.
You had to have their people.
You had to prove that youassociated with all these other
people.
Why people?
You had to prove that youassociated with all these other
people.
Why?
To prove their repentance bytheir deeds.
He wanted to bring us intoother people who sin, to

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compromise, to destroy the faith.
It was that simple.
You had to prove theirrepentance by their deeds.
Does that make sense, jacob?
Yeah, verse 21,.
He goes on to say that is whythe jews seized me in the temple
courts and tried to kill me.
In other words, it's not all ofthese other controversies, it's
not.
Did he say this?
It's not.
Did he act like this or, youknow, did he get upset over here
?
Was he bossy over here?
It isn't all of this chatterand false accusations going on.

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It has to do with this onecentral thing, and that is they
should repent and turn to Godand improve their repentance by
their deeds.
Verse 22,.
Why don't you read that, jacob?

Speaker 3 (56:33):
But I have had God's help to this very day, and so I
stand here and testify to smalland great alike.
I am saying nothing beyond whatthe prophets and Moses said
would happen.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
All I can really say is amen.
That's what's going on today.
All right, read verse 24, jacobof Acts, chapter 26.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
At this point Festus interrupted Paul's defense.
You are out of your mind, paul,he shouted.
Your great learning is drivingyou insane.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
That's quite the little psychoanalysis, isn't it
Jacob?

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
We didn't get to hear the rest of Paul's defense.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
What else was he going to say?
I'm sorry.
What did you say?
We don't get to find out therest of Paul's defense.
What else was he going to say?
I'm sorry.
What did you say?
We don't get to find out therest of Paul's defense because
he got interrupted.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Well, I think part of that is Festus knows at this
point that Paul's got a lot tosay and doesn't want to hear it
Correct.
Yeah, because he got to thepoint of you've got to prove
your repentance by your deeds,right?
Well then the next logicalquestion would be well, how do
you prove that and how does itcome out?
In fact, what does a rebukelook like?

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You know, those nasty littlerebukes what does that look like
?
Or walking in the light and allthose kind of things that they
ask the questions but they'renot going to let us answer.
It's kind of the same tactichere.
You're just cutting them off sothat you can't provide a
defense in any way or explain.
He doesn't want to hear itbecause he knows if it's true
he's got to repent.
Not to mention, of course, whatpaul said earlier, that they're

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controlled by satan.
So what do you not think satanwants to stop paul at the point
where it really got down toobedience?
Yes, of course he does.
All the other chatter up aboveand I don't mean that negatively
but all the other decisionslaying a foundation, like you
literally could go okay, youcould agree to all that, but
there's no specifics.
So you're out of your mind,paul.

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He shouted Finally, it justfesses, it just comes boiling
out.
Your great learning is drivingyou insane.
That's quite, uh, quite theaccusation, isn't it?
Yes, it is all right.
So paul responds in the waythat a godly man does.
I'm not insane.
Most excellent festus.

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Paul replied what I'm saying istrue and reasonable.
That again, the amazing thingis everything that was a sound
doctrine was not only true butit was also reasonable.
They just twisted it to make itlook like something and then,
when you started to explain whyit was reasonable, of course you
were not allowed to explainActs, chapter 26, verse 26,.

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The king is familiar with thesethings and I can speak freely to
him.
I am convinced that none ofthis has escaped his notice
because it was not done in thecorner.
Now here's where we startdeviating.
Because the king was familiar.
What was going on?
King county prosecutors anddetective grant mccall did not
want to know the truth, so theydidn't look and they they closed

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out anything that actuallywould have been of reality and
to be true.
So you start seeing a deviationat this point.
In other words, king Countyprosecutors, judge Lori K Smith,
beth Andrews, keep themselvesas ignorant as possible.
They keep themselves in thedark as much as possible,
because then you can just ruleand do whatever you want's very

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clear.
We'll look at it later.
But if you have actual evidenceof crimes going on, but it's
done by covering officials, thenthere is no crime.
But if you have no evidence ofa crime, with people that are
just the humble in the land,then we'll prosecute that.
Because if you don't have anyfacts, you can just make up
anything you want.
Yeah, and that's a little bitof a taste of what's coming.
All right, king agrippa, do youbelieve the prophets?

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I know you do.
Then agrippa said to paul doyou think that in such a short
time you can persuade me to be achristian?
It's kind of sinking in, isn'tit?
To king agrippa.
He knows where this is headed.
He's I think he's figured outwhat Paul's up to.
In other words, if you've got aman sitting here saying, you
know, to this day God has helpedme, and he's preaching the

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gospel in this courtroom tothese people, don't you think
he's at least smart enough tocome to the conclusion hey, I'm
being preached at.
If this is Paul's attitude ofvictory, if this is what it
means to have God protect youall the way and you're in chains
and you're going to Rome fortrial, then I think he's picking

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up on the fact.
Hey, this is a lot more thanabout Paul's comfort.
Paul replied short time or long,I pray God and again, only God.
This is not a Christianreligion, prosecutor Simmons,
this is not Sound Doctrine,church's books.
This isn't just you knowlistening to my sermons.
This is not a Christianreligion, prosecutor Simmons.
This is not Sound Doctrine,church's books.
This isn't just you knowlistening to my sermons.
This isn't your.
You know propaganda that you doin public school.

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You know the public schoolpropaganda that you guys are
doing upon people and forcingthem all to accept.
This is about seeking theliving God.
I pray God that not only you,but all who are listening to me
today may become what I am,except for these chains.
He's trying to drop a hintthere.
Of course, like you know, freeme.

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There's no reason why I'm inthese chains, correct?
All right, then we see normalcourtroom behavior, don't we?
Verse 30.
Go ahead and read that, jacob.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
The king rose and with him the governor, and
Bernice and those sitting withhim Go ahead in verse 31.
They left the room and, whiletalking with one another, they
said this man is not doinganything that deserves death or
imprisonment.
You'll notice how they leavethe courtroom like come to the
bench.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
You'll notice how they leave the courtroom, like
come to the bench or stop you.
So a lot of things just havenot changed, have they?
And what is impressive here,jacob, is there something that
jumps out to you that like, hey,this is just kind?

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
of out of the norm here.
Well, they are honest that hedoesn't deserve death or
imprisonment.
They recognize this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Correct.
Did you see anything in KingCounty prosecutors, where they
come together and go?
You know what this trial islike?
A joke and we don't have anyevidence.
We know the jury found themguilty, but there's really
nothing here.
If we separate the attacks onthe church and the slander over
here and if we just get down tothe facts of the actual

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accusatory aspects of the crime,there's nothing here that
proves the crime took place.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
No, they most definitely did not do that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
No, they held to their lie all the way to the end
.
In fact we've looked beforethey brought in a lying
accusation at the very end.
But they all come to anagreement that this man didn't
do anything deserving death orimprisonment.
Paul got a more honest trial incorrupt Rome than we got in
King County prosecutor's office.
I mean that's staggering tothink about and all the things

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and all the corruption that wasin Roman times and during that
going.
In fact there's another trialwhere Paul was and it says he
was hoping the judge was hopinghe'd get a bribe.
So you know the corruption isthere.
But you've got three people alllistening and the one saying
he's out of his mind and thenthey come to the conclusion like
, yeah, well, he may be out ofhis mind, or he may not be out
of his mind, doesn't?

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He has not done anything todeserve death or imprisonment.
They were able to do away withall the chatter, all the lies,
all the fact he's at fact, theyall lying accusations and come
to a correct decision right,correct, pretty amazing.
I mean I wish we had time justto go.
Hey, let's just stop here forjust a moment.
You got you got three guys inthe world, all controlled by

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satan infant, and they come to aproper decision and king,
county courts can't even getthere.
Kind of amazing, really.
All right, verse 32, grippetsaid to festus this man could
have been set free if he had notappealed to caesar.
So not only did they come tothe correct decision, they're

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also very lawful, like well, wecould have set him free, but he
appealed to Caesar.
And, by the way, if you're aRoman citizen, just like if you
were an American citizen, thatused to mean something.
It actually doesn't meananything anymore, but you would
claim I'm a Roman citizen, Iappeal to Caesar, and that was a
right and a privilege.

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It was very much an honor to bea Roman citizen.
Many people had to pay a hugeamount of money to be Roman
citizens and you could earn itthat way or you could be born
into it, and Paul happened to beborn into it.
So he was kind of a Romancitizen of Roman citizens and
had all kinds of rights.
But the impressive thing here isthat Agrippa and them and

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they're talking and whatever,festus and all, then they're
saying, yeah, you know what, ifhe hadn't appealed to caesar, we
could let him go.
At least they stuck to the law.
Now I, you know, I kind of havequestions like could they let
him go if they just put theirjob in line?
Don't know about that, butlet's just go with a moment that

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again I'm repeating myself Didthey not stick to the spirit of
the law and the letter of thelaw, jacob?

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Yes, they definitely stuck to it, no matter what.
They still outpolled, whateverthe law said, that's what they
followed.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Not Judge Lori K Smith, no, not Prosecutor Jason
Simmons.
No, not bailiffs, not anybody.
Not anybody in the court system.
Even objected Judge Lori KSmith.
Prosecutor Simmons said guesswhat?
We're attacking the religion,we're attacking the church.
We're attacking the church,we're attacking the very

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fundamentals of what theybelieve and what's a rebuke and
what's hating for Jesus mean Allthese religious questions?
Because the church as a whole.
That's what the trial is about,right, jacob?

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
Yeah.
The church as a whole yeah, butnot as a whole.
But not as a whole yeah thechurch as a whole.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Yeah, but not as a whole.
But not as a whole, that'sright.
So you know the religiousaspect.
You know, just kind of muddiedthe waters.
Prosecutors, judge Sidney VMcLeod, detective Grant McCall I
at least got the phrase down.
All of this applies, right?
Yes, so what does Judge Lori Kk smith and prosecutor simmons

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void?
Well, in order to ensure anabsolute slam dunk railroad,
let's just hang him and justmake it claim that you know, the
jury found them guilty.
What are we going to remove,jacob?
um well, they removed a lot ofthings, but certainly any honest
truth they took away thefreedom of religion in the

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Washington State Constitutionand, of course, by aspect, they
took it away from the UnitedStates Constitution, the Bill of
Rights, the Right ofAssociation.
But let's play the clip andlet's listen to Prosecutor Jason
Simmons, andurie k smith, inone swift move, no explanation
given, no reason given, justother than it doesn't apply.

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Watch them say the jury knowingabout the washington state
constitution's freedom ofreligion, the jury does not need
to know, it does not apply.
Which is bigger than saying thejury doesn't need to know, it's
saying it does not apply.
I know you're brought into thiscourtroom, I know your church
is on trial.
Detective Grant McCall has saidit's all about the church.

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But guess what?
We're going to take out thepart that would say you have a
right to practice your religionand that won't even be
considered.
And you've got to realize, ifthat's the attitude of judge
laurie k smith and prosecutorsbefore the trial ever began, you
can be sure this was nothingmore than a lynch mob, correct,
correct, before facts were everheard, before anything was ever

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done.
They just pull it out, go aheadand play and let's watch it
ourselves.
And again, these are justpivotal moments that people need
to pay attention to.
I mean, it would have been onething if they just sent us a
letter and say Dear Mr Williams,this is King County
Prosecutor's Office and we'reaware that you're practicing
freedom of religion.
We just want to give you awarning that you cannot practice

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all the things that you do, andhere's kind of a list Walk in
the light, don't do that, don'trebuke, don't do all these
things.
We've also picked up on thesethings.
We've had several complaints.
So just know that you are inviolation or you have no right
to claim the Washington Statesection on freedom of religion.
How are we supposed to know,jacob, that the things that we

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were doing would not be appliedto the Washington State
Constitution?
Where's the law that would havesaid you can walk into a
courtroom, they can just pullthat away and, lo and behold,
you committed all these thingsbecause it didn't apply.
But there was no law that saidit didn't apply, correct.
So how are we supposed to knowor let's put it in their bad

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attitude how is Timothy Williamssupposed to know, that the
freedom of religion in theWashington State Constitution
did not apply as he sought tolove other people and perfect
them in Jesus Christ.
How was I supposed to know that?
And where is that written insome code?
Somewhere that she can justcome along and prosecutor
Simmons can just throw it outthe window and it becomes an
absolutely meaningless thingbased on no facts whatsoever.

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This was a travesty ofcorruption and I hope to get
into it more and more as we gointo other aspects of why and
where this is coming from.
But let's listen to it before Irant too much more.

Speaker 6 (01:10:11):
And then the last issue of whether or not the
court should read the WashingtonState Constitution.
The Washington StateConstitution is not a relevant
inquiry to this case, and as forreading article 1, section 22
of the constitution, it's notappropriate.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
It's not appropriate.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
It's not appropriate not appropriate, not appropriate
.
What can you say, jacob?
Yep, there's no way anybody'sgetting a fair try with that
attitude.
No, it's not like.

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They listed all the reasons whyit's not appropriate.
There was no ruling on you know, you get a 30-page statement as
to why you're voiding that.
We just void it.
Page statement as to why you'revoiding that.
That.
We just void it.
Anything you want to add, jacob, because this is going to bring
to conclusion prosecutor biblestudy time?
Of course, now I do reserve theright, obviously, for god to
come along and say no, you gotto pick it up again.

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So we'll see what happens.
But for now, as far as I'm, asfar as I know, in the Lord, this
is the end of the prosecutorBible study time.
Anything you want to say, Iknow Well, go ahead and play the
ending prayer and this is wewon't.
We didn't go into thescriptures, but this is the
whole section of what we prayedin the previous podcast, along

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with scriptures.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
That kind of give some people things they need to
meditate on and think on alongwith scriptures that kind of
give some people things theyneed to meditate on and think on
.
Oh Lord, consider King County.
The Lord's curse is on thehouse of the wicked, but he
blesses the home of therighteous.
He mocks proud mockers butgives grace to the humble.
The wise inherit honor butfools he holds up to shame.

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Proverbs 3.33-35.
Think of the fact thatdisciples of Jesus have divine
power as they pick up theircross and do God's will.
Let us read from 2 Corinthians10.
The weapons we fight with arenot the weapons of the world.
On the contrary, they havedivine power to demolish

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strongholds.
2 Corinthians 10.4.
Power in legal courts.
Washington state courts,prosecutors, police to say
nothing of the liars suchconspired to use have behaved
with the utmost arrogance towardyou.
Let us read from Acts, chapter13.
Paul traveled through the wholeisland until they came to Paphos

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.
There they met a Jewish.
Let us read from Acts, chapter13.
Word of God.
But Elymas the sorcerer forthat is what his name means
opposed them and tried to turnthe procouncil from the faith.

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Then Paul, filled with the HolySpirit, looked straight at
Elymas and said you are a childof the devil and an enemy of
everything.
That is right.
You are full of all kinds ofdeceit and trickery.
Will you never stop pervertingthe right ways of the Lord?
Deceit and trickery.
Will you never stop pervertingthe right ways of the Lord.

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Now the hand of the Lord isagainst you.
You are going to be blind andfor a time you will be unable to
see the light of the sun.
Immediately, mist and darknesscame over him and he groped
about seeking someone to leadhim by the hand.
When the pro-council saw whathad happened, he believed, for
he was amazed at the teachingabout the Lord Acts 13.6-12.

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Now let us pray concerning KingCounty Courts.
Lord, we pray in your truth ofProverbs 18.
When wickedness comes, so doescontempt comes, so does contempt
, and with shame comes disgrace.
Proverbs 18.3.
Lord, we humbly ask you tocurse the wickedness of those
who, with vile contempt,trampled upon truth and legal

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laws while propping up liars andcorrupt police.
Bring shame and disgrace intoeach of their lives.
Let a curse hang over theirlives so that they may choose,
of their own free will, life ordeath.
Let a curse hang over theirlives so that they may choose of
their own free will, life ordeath, but let them know what it
is to have you who confrontssin, pursuing them, lord,
consider the utter contempt KingCounty Courts of Washington

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State have treated you.
Consider, because they hateyour truth and love, still cling
to darkness and their twistedways instead of your light and
purity.
Consider they have prosecutedand judged with their lies, like
the evil one, the greatprosecutor of your people.
Consider and teach thoseinvolved and you know who they

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are that you are the living Godwho cannot be mocked.
Remove the veil of theirdeceptions and demonstrate to
them that you cannot be mocked,as it is written in Galatians
6-7, do not be deceived, godcannot be mocked.
A man reaps what he sows.
Consider, o Lord, theystubbornly refuse to this day to

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make right their wrongs.
Lord, we know your justice iscoming soon, but if it be, your
will place a curse upon thosewho have stubbornly refused to
repent, your curse that is fullof wisdom and love.
According to their choice, maythat curse become a blessing or
their chosen damnation.
We wait for you, o Lord, and acurse be on anyone who does not

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love you.
Lord.
1 Corinthians 16.22.
If anyone does not love theLord, a curse be on him.
Come, o Lord.
Amen Concludes the prayer.
Now let us read from Daniel,chapter 4, about a leader God
made mad.
You will be driven away frompeople and will live with the

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wild animals.
You will eat grass like cattleand be drenched with the dew of
heaven.
Seven times will pass by foryou until you acknowledge that
the Most High is sovereign overthe kingdoms of men and gives
them to anyone he wishes.
The command to leave the stumpof the tree with its roots means
that your kingdom will berestored to you when you
acknowledge that heaven rules.

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Therefore, o king, be pleasedto accept my advice.
Renounce your sins by doingwhat is right and your
wickedness by being kind to theoppressed.
It may be that then yourprosperity will continue.
All this happened to KingNebuchadnezzar Twelve months
later.
As the king was walking on theroof of the royal palace of

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Babylon, he said Is not this thegreat Babylon I have built as
the royal residence by my mightypower and for the glory of my
majesty?
The words were still on hislips when a voice came from
heaven.
This is what is decreed for you, king Nebuchadnezzar.

(01:17:08):
Your royal authority has beentaken from you.
You will be driven away frompeople and will live with the
wild animals.
You will eat grass like cattle.
Seven times will pass by foryou until you acknowledge that
the Most High is sovereign overthe kingdoms of men and gives
them to anyone he wishes.
Immediately, what had been saidabout Nebuchadnezzar was

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fulfilled he was driven awayfrom people and ate grass like
cattle.
His body was drenched with thedew of heaven until his hair
grew like the feathers of aneagle and his nails like the
claws of a bird.
Daniel 4.25-33.
Finally, a warning againststubbornness from Romans 2.
So when you, a mere man, passjudgment on them and yet do the

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same things, do you think youwill escape God's judgment?
Or do you show contempt for theriches of His kindness,
tolerance and patience, notrealizing that God's kindness
leads you toward repentance?
But because of yourstubbornness and your
unrepentant heart, you arestoring up wrath against
yourself for the day of God'swrath, when His righteous

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judgment will be revealed.
God will give to each personaccording to what he has done.
Romans 2, 3-6.
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Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
The following Seattle-Keene County prosecutors
violated every right andfundamental rule of law are
Prosecutor Mark Larson.
Prosecutor Lisa Johnson.
Prosecutor Nicole Weston.
Prosecutor Rich Anderson.
Prosecutor Jason Simmons.

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The following Washington statejudges foundationally destroyed
rules of investigations andrealities of logic are as
follows Chief Judge Beth MAndrus.
Chief Judge Lori K Smith.
Isaiah 59-4.
No one calls for justice.

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No one pleads his case withintegrity.
They rely on empty argumentsand speak lies.
They conceive trouble and givebirth to evil.
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