April 24, 2025 • 40 mins
Winding down Prosecutor Bible Study Time
The evidence is overwhelming, an innocent man sits in prison while a corrupt cop is free.
Washington State Supreme Court committing right rape, King County Prosecutor: Prosecutor Mark Larson, Prosecutor Lisa Johnson, Prosecutor Nicole Weston, Prosecutor Rich Anderson and Prosecutor Jason Simmons. Judge Beth M. Andrus, Judge Lori K. Smith, Prosecutor Leesa Manion, King County Prosecutors Office, City of Enumclaw.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
1 Corinthians, chapter 4, verse 20, states a
fact, for the kingdom of God isnot a matter of talk but of
power.
Let's pray, lord.
We pray in your truth ofProverbs 18,.
When wickedness comes, so doescontempt, and with shame comes
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disgrace.
Lord, we humbly ask you tocurse the wickedness of those
who, with vile contempt, trampleupon truth and legal laws,
while propping up liars andcorrupt police.
Bring shame and disgrace intoeach of their lives.
Let a curse hang over theirlives so that they may choose of
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their own free will, life ordeath.
But let them know what it is tohave you who confront sin,
pursuing them.
Lord, consider the uttercontempt King County courts of
Washington State have treatedyou.
Consider, because they hateyour truth and love, they still
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cling to darkness and theirtwisted ways instead of your
light and purity.
Consider, they have prosecutedand judged with their lies, like
the evil one, the greatprosecutor of your people.
Consider and teach thoseinvolved and you know who they
are that you are the living Godwho cannot be mocked.
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Remove the veil of theirdeceptions and demonstrate to
them that you cannot be mocked,as it is written in your word,
galatians 6, 7, do not bedeceived.
God cannot be mocked.
A man reaps what he sows.
Consider, o Lord, theirstubborn refusal to this day, to
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make right their wrongs.
Lord, we know your justice iscoming soon, but if it be, your
will place a curse upon thosewho have stubbornly refused to
repent.
Your curse that is full ofwisdom and love.
According to their choice, maythat curse become a blessing or
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their chosen damnation.
We wait for you, o Lord, and acurse be upon anyone who does
not love you, lord.
1 Corinthians 16, 22.
If anyone does not love theLord, a curse be on him.
Come, o Lord.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Welcome to the Consider podcast, where we
examine today's wisdom, follyand madness.
Amen, how's it going, jacob?
It's going good.
It's time to bring this wholeprosecutor bible study time to a
close.
We've really reached the limitof well, what's it's way beyond
prosecutor simmons pay grade.
Certainly haven't heardanything back, so there's no
point in pursuing and throwingpearls to pigs who obviously
could care less about any truth.
You know, I'm reminded of John,chapter three, verse 12.
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Why don't you read that, jacob?
Speaker 4 (03:34):
John chapter three verse 12.
I have spoken to you of earthlythings and you do not believe.
How, then, will you believe ifI speak of heavenly things?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
You know, everything we've talked about so far,
really about in any podcast, iseasily acceptable.
You may not agree with it, butyou logically can understand,
right, for most people you canexplain the world is round or
oval or whatever and it's coldin the Antarctic.
Those are just facts that youaccept.
Right, correct?
Well, there's anything that wehaven't spoken so far that you
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factually cannot say okay, well,yeah, that's true, or that's a
factual statement, whether itreally be the trial we've
discussed up to this point orany scriptures, we haven't
really got anything that's super, super deep or so far out there
that you couldn't just whetheryou want it or not, right, am I
correct?
I mean you could at there thatyou couldn't just whether you
want it or not, right, am Icorrect?
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I mean you at least say, well,yeah, okay, I get it.
That's what it says.
It's clear, I don't want tolive it or whatever, right?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
well, a lot of people would actually completely
disagree and they would sayyou're taking scriptures out of
context and that you know youjust haven't studied the greek
and hebrew enough.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
But anyways, a lot of people would argue that yeah,
that's a good point, but inorder to and you correct me if
I'm wrong in order to argue thatpoint that you just said, you
at least have to understand whatI'm saying, correct?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
oh yeah, I think everything's been laid out.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Uh yeah, very logically so in the same way, I
might uh say oh yeah, you gottahate and despise money and just
quote it and then they'llcertainly.
Well, you're just taking thatout of context and all of those
things.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yes, but they would acknowledge that, yes, the
scripture's in there.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, in fact, what's ironic about that whole
scripture I don't want to gettoo sidetracked is that most of
the time, 99% of the people thatI talk to that aren't believers
accept what Jesus says at thatpoint and really kind of
understand it.
They just don't want it or theywalk away.
Same thing with you know hatingyour own life or you know
hating your father and mother.
They get what Jesus is saying.
There's not that guttural kindof thing like oh, you're out of
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context or whatever you'resaying.
It's kind of weird to watch.
There's more honesty amongpeople that are pagans with a
lot of scripture than there areamong those who claim to be
believers well, and that's notsuper strange because jesus
talks about right that like uh,I think tax collectors and I
think he knows and another groupof people are getting into
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heaven faster than the phariseesare name into that.
I'm reading a book about thedrug wars and kind of thing.
In the first opening chapterand this is written by a
non-believer he's talking to um,he used to be in the, in the
cartel kind of thing, was areally a mass murder and kill
people.
But he came to jesus christ.
He's in the prison.
I hope to share it later, buthe, he's in the kingdom.
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You know, he's in prison, he'sin dark, he's done some
horrendous things, but he admitsthem and the grace and mercy
there and you can can just tellby even the way the guy's
reporting it, like he doesn'tknow quite what to do with him,
but he's not really questioningthe sincerity, he's more
questioning like, wow, can Godreally forgive that far?
So it's kind of amazing.
Before we get there, though,and we're going to kind of wrap
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things up, it may take two orthree podcasts, I think two, two
, maybe three, um, because Iwant to bring this whole
prosecutor bible study questionto an end.
I mean, I'm really just kind ofsick of it.
It's not really going to goanywhere, do anything, and
things have been explainedthoroughly, but I did find
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something that will help kingcounty prosecutors to go
prosecute.
Oh, okay, yeah, I know it wasquite a surprising thing and it
concerns.
I found a group of people, or atleast two people, let's say, or
one guy, walking in the light.
Oh, okay, and we know how.
King, county prosecutors, jasonsimmons, judge, laurie Smith I
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could go down the line of namesand they thoroughly hate the
walking in the light.
Right, correct, never mind, thewalking in the light is what
keeps a church pure, correct?
I mean, if people know what'sgoing on in a church and you
know we're all sinners, you'rekeeping an eye on so that sin
doesn't happen.
But okay, again, I'm back tologic, explaining it.
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They don't like the light ofJesus Christ, they want their
dark light that gets toprosecute everything and they
get themselves all puffed up.
Anyway, found a group of peopleor a situation where they're
walking in the light.
Now, when I say that Jacob,it's not the walking light that
we know, the one that's full oflove and grace and power, it's
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the Jason Simmons walking in thelight which is defined as Jacob
.
I don't know.
Well, how did he define walkinglight?
I mean, all of those peoplethat testified that he brought
in.
They committed perjury, eachone of those people, for the
prosecution literally could beprosecuted for perjury.
Do you remember what theirdefinition of walking the light
is?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
No, I don't remember their definition, oh, where you
just tell people like everythingyou've ever done, or something
like that.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
That's right.
Everything that you're doing.
You're supposed to telleverything.
We did a whole show on that.
It's easy to forget.
I don't blame you.
Yeah, you're supposed to telleverybody everything that you're
doing all the time.
And we talked about, well, howwould that even work?
First of all, if that was myunderstanding walking in the
light, we'd have a checklist,because I'm not going to spend
my time listening to peopleexplaining every single thing
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they did during the day.
It's not even feasible to havea life correct the day I.
It's not even feasible to havea life correct correct.
Well, I found someone actuallywalking in the light telling
everything they did, and I knowsimmons and king county park is
going to want to go for them.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Oh, okay, let's play it and if you're watching the
video, you can watch it happenthis cop thought it would be
funny to tell his boss his everymove, just to see wash my hands
.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Nobody gives a.
I don't give a.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
What you do.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Do we need to play that again?
Because that's exactly whatSimmons says we were doing.
I know, yeah, minus the cusswords.
I'm not going to do the cusswords, even if we're walking in
life, but that's what they weretold.
You know, let's play that onemore time Because let's let that
sink in, because I want simmonsto take down notes so they can
send whatever police theirpurpose they want to go get
although these are policemen.
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So it's okay what they're doing, but it's not okay what we were
doing.
So let's watch it one more timeand pay attention to this is
what they think walking thelight is.
And now they got something theycan prosecute.
Go for it.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
This cop thought it would be funny to tell his boss
his every move, just to see whatwould happen.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Hey, I'm about to get to the bathroom.
What are you telling me?
Speaker 5 (10:33):
I'm going to the store.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I just got done eating.
I'm about to go wash my hands.
Nobody gives a, hey, I'm out.
Man, I'm about to go wash myhands Nobody gives a, I don't
give a.
What you doing by the way arethese police officers?
Yeah, they're police officers.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
They don't look like they're working very hard, but
that's a side note.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
No, but we won't go there.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
We won't go there.
We don't know what.
Maybe they are just paperpushers.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
A lot of downtime too .
You know, we won't go there.
We don't know what.
Maybe they are just paperpushers.
A lot of downtime too, you knowit's not every place is hopping
with stuff, correct?
Yeah, anyway, any thoughts onthat, jacob?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
No, but yeah, I totally get your point that that
would be absolutely ridiculousand, as the video shows, even in
the world because this isnothing but a worldly video that
would be annoying.
That would be just absolutelydumb to tell somebody everything
you're doing.
So people are going to calleach other up and constantly
just say what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Not in Judge Lori K Smith's courtroom.
That's right.
That's the reason to send aninnocent man to prison.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Here it comes, here comes the best, here comes the
odds and ends, but mostly theends.
Time to conclude ProsecutorSimmons Bible Study Times.
Let us consider why this endingis better than the beginning.
Ecclesiastes 7.8.
The end of a matter is betterthan its beginning.
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Welcome to Prosecutor BibleStudy Time.
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When we answer questions,questions asked by Washington
State, questions demanded byProsecutor Jason Simmons,
rapid-fire questions pounced onby Judge Lori K Smith, questions
asked, questions demandrapid-fire questions, questions
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that were not allowed to beanswered Matthew 22, 15.
Then the Pharisees went out andlaid plans to trap him in his
words.
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Speaker 1 (13:14):
I won't repeat the trial again.
We've got plenty of videos andpodcasts on that.
But let's go to Isaiah, chapter29, verse 20, because I want to
wrap up this Prosecutor Biblestudy time and move on with some
deeper things, better thingsIsaiah 29, 20.
The ruthless will vanish, themockers will disappear and all
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who have an eye for evil will becut down.
That certainly is ProsecutorSimmons and Judge Laurie K Smith
.
You know it didn't matter whatwe did.
It was an eye for evil, meaningthere was one situation where a
married couple were going awayto strengthen their marriage and
he made it sound like it wassome contrived thing to destroy
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the marriage.
I mean, it was a total mockeryof facts, truth, evidence and
everything else.
He was ruthless and JudgeLaurie K Smith ensured that
ruthlessness and added to it.
It says the ruthless willvanish, the mockers will
disappear and all who have aneye for evil will be cut down.
It goes on to talk about thekind of courtrooms that you see
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when you have this kind ofarrogance and pride.
Isaiah 29, 21,.
Those with a word make a manout to be guilty, who ensnare
the defender in court and, withfalse testimony, deprive the.
That fit that whole trial,didn't it Jacob?
Yes, it did.
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Well, let's try and odds andends.
I'm trying to pull togethersome pieces here that I'm not
sure got fully answered.
One of the implications and theattack was that everybody did
everything that I said.
That was seen to be this Unitedmindset or this group thing
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that had only to do with what Ihad to say.
So it looked like there wasthis unity going on, correct,
correct?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
well, they were trying to paint, to paint.
Painted as I think you were theclassic.
Paint it as I think you werethe classic cult leader.
Everybody had to do what yousaid.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh, of course, of course, but that's because they
reported to me everything theydid at every second of the day,
and of course I had to approvethat also.
Yes, the truth of the matter iswithin Jesus Christ, since the
kingdom of God is not a matterof talk.
I need to repeat that again.
It's not a matter of talk, butof power.
1 Corinthians 1.10.
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I'll let you read it, Jacob,because it answers why there was
this unity that you could seewithin the church, but it wasn't
a unity based upon my effortsto keep everybody contained and
everybody together.
I mean, that's not evenphysically possible in a large
group of people.
Go ahead and read 1 Corinthians1.10, Jacob.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our
Lord Jesus Christ, that all ofyou agree with one another, so
that there may be no divisionsamong you and that you may be
perfectly united in mind andthought.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
There's your answer, prosecutor Simmons, whether you
believe it or not.
I didn't have to run around.
I didn't even want to go aroundtrying to get everybody to
think what.
First of all, I didn't evenknow what God wanted to do the
next day, so it's not like Icould even make this game plan.
Let's go do this here and let'sdo this over here.
But look at what it says.
I appeal to you, brothers, inthe name of our Lord Jesus
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Christ.
You know, god doesn't ask us todo things and just mock us at
it when God comes along and hesays be perfectly united.
That sounds like animpossibility, doesn't Jacob?
If I walked into most churchesand I said, okay, everybody in
this church needs to beperfectly united in mind and in
thought, now think about that.
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Those are actually twodifferent things.
Being united in mind meanseverybody agrees on something.
Let's do something simple likelet's have a Sunday picnic,
right?
Yeah, everybody agrees that wehave a Sunday picnic.
That would be one mind.
But it's the thinking processthat you get to the decision to
have Sunday picnic.
That would be one mind, butit's the thinking process that
you get to the decision to havethe picnic.
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In other words, if they were allperfectly united in thought yes
, that's a good idea.
We can fellowship, we can loveone another, we could reach out
to other people, we couldcelebrate in the Lord.
But you know that thinkingprocess is not going on with
everybody, whether it even bethe kids growing up.
Well, some would be oh, I likeMartha's bean salad, or I get
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cake and ice cream, or let's goplay, or the glutton goes, I get
free food.
You see what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, and I'm makingclear that there's a difference
between being perfectly remindedin like a goal that we're going
to do, but you also in the Lord, have to have the correct
thinking pattern to get to thatgoal.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Yeah, the goal is the Holy Spirit.
A mind controlled by the Spiritis life and peace.
But that's just an example.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
All right.
So how would I, under humanpower, get everybody to think
the correct process to get tothe proper decision?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Under human power.
You can't.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
It's impossible.
So when you see this unitygoing on, there's no, I'm not
just interested in a united mindthat we all okay, we all agree
on doing the salt shaker rightIn Jesus Christ, it's not only
do we agree on doing the saltshaker, but the thinking process
of why and how we get there andwhat should be done.
That thinking process should beunited among everybody else.
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So you're going to walk into agroup, into a church like that.
If they were really living thisor even getting close to it,
wouldn't you think, in a humankind of understanding, that
there's something weird going on?
Yes, because in most places, inmost homes, in most churches,
even in your own family, thethinking process to going to do
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something is different with eachindividual.
Can you think of any exampleslike that, jacob?
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Well, say that.
What was the question again?
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Well, we go like this .
You'd say let's go visitgrandpa.
And to the child the grandpa is, or to the child is thinking,
oh good, I can go play atgrandpa's house with the toys.
You're thinking let's gofellowship and love grandpa.
Correct Two different thinkingprocesses.
And so, as the child grows, youdon't want them continuing
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thinking well, yeah, let's govisit grandpa because of things
I can get from grandpa.
Correct, Correct, yes, so that'swhat the scripture is saying
that we have.
Once the heart is purified andonce we're surrendering
everything to Jesus Christ, it'snot only that we have the same
mind, but we also have the samethinking process, the same heart
, and that's why Paul is able tosay I appeal to you, brothers,
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in the name of our Lord JesusChrist, because only his power
can do that, Only his power cando it among the surrendered
saints.
That's a big if that all of youagree with one another so that
there may be no division amongyou and that you may be
perfectly united in mind andthought.
That's a tall scripture, isn'tit?
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Yes, it is Well.
No wonder dark King Countyprosecutors honed in on this to
destroy it.
This is light, this is life,this is power.
If this is real.
If you're touching on this, youbetter believe Enoch, Claude,
detective Baptist King Jamesonly self-righteous detective is
going to go for this and hisGod and who he really worships
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going to stir him up to hatethat, Correct, Correct?
If it was the normal churchwhere you got the committee,
everybody spends eight monthsdoing things and you spend years
doing stuff and nothing evergets done of any significance or
you do what You're grindingyour teeth, it takes forever and
there's so much wasted time.
Right, Correct, yeah, but in achurch full of this kind of
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power, let's just say there's aproject, Like you know, let's
have a house where people can goand get away with their
families and build theirfamilies up and love one another
and seek the Lord.
Right, let's just say we havethat.
There's two ways to do that.
One we form a committee.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
We form a subsect of donations.
We spend five years getting allthat right.
We go through all that.
You got to raise the money.
We got to raise the money forthis to happen correct.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
We got to write who's going to be in charge of it.
Who's going to do?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
the maintenance.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
It just goes down and it's just bogged down and
there's no, there's no joy in it.
You wind up with this wholeweird quasi-government thing.
Right, correct?
And if that's what the Lordwanted to do and I'm saying that
he may want to work throughsome committee-type thing, but
it would be totally differentthan what I just said, correct?
Well, let's just, he comesalong, he puts it on everybody's
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heart and on their mind.
Yeah, let's have this placewhere people can go.
The whole church is going well,yeah this is great.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Why would that not be a good thing, Jacob?
I don't see any reason why itwouldn't be a good thing.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Correct.
So you submit to the Lord.
Lord, is this really of you?
Or are we just doing somethingnoble?
So you surrender your mind,your goal, okay, god, that's
what you want.
And then the thinking processof how that is done gets into
work and you know all right,fine, I plead guilty.
It was done in the mostefficient way possible, arranged
in the most positive way thatwe had no books lined out what
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people could do.
They were scheduled to come,but guess what?
Prosecutor jason simmons turnedto a church where everybody's a
servant of all and he goes oh,were you compensated for that?
Yeah, and obviously theperjurer said no.
But oh, yeah, that's the fact.
But it's still perjury becauseyou're lying about the situation
.
Correct, make sense.
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Did I answer the question nowabout unity?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
You answered the question, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
All right, go ahead and play that next scripture,
jacob, and then we're going todiscuss 1 Corinthians 2, verse
11.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things
of God.
For who among men knows thethoughts of a man except the
man's spirit within him?
In the same way, no one knowsthe thoughts of God except the
Spirit of God.
We have not received the Spiritof the world, but the Spirit
who is from God, that we mayunderstand what God has freely
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given us.
This is what we speak, not inwords taught us by human wisdom,
but in words taught by theSpirit, expressing spiritual
truths in spiritual words.
The man without the Spirit doesnot accept the things that come
from the Spirit of God, forthey are foolishness to him and
he cannot understand thembecause they are spiritually
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discerned.
The spiritual man makesjudgments about all things, but
he himself is not subject to anyman's judgment, for who has
known the mind of the Lord thathe may instruct him, but we have
the mind of Christ.
1 Corinthians, 2, 11-16.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
King County prosecutors, you know police.
Since they don't worship JesusChrist, they naturally hate the
things of Jesus Christ.
And what you had going on withthis whole trial was you had the
most spiritual aspects at SoundDoctrine Church brought into
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the most worldly dark area ofKing County courts.
Now do you think in anyrational way there's going to be
any type of communication thatcan really happen?
No, to put it in more simpleterms, humility bumped into
arrogance and that's just notgoing to work.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Well, I mean the courts.
They're just suppressing thetruth, so you're not going to
get anywhere.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah, we'll get into after we finish the prosecutor
Bible study time.
We're going to be talking aboutjustice and that's why I said I
wanted to wrap this up, becauseif Prosecutor Simmons and King
County Courts Judge Laurie KSmith can understand this, they
are certainly not going tounderstand justice when we get
there.
So it just becomes a wholeother section In the same way.
Okay, jacob, do I.
Can I read your mind?
No, can you read my mind?
Speaker 5 (25:06):
no, at best we can kind of know each other to a
degree that we kind of know whateach other's thinking where
someone's going.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
I'm sorry what you can anticipate where one of us
may go in a situation?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Correct, but you don't know.
That is correct.
But what we don't know, and wedon't try to, is to read each
other's minds.
I mean, the CIA has spent notelling how much wasted money to
try and read minds, right?
Yeah, mr Simmons, you have tounderstand.
Like, okay, a, you don't wantto understand and B, it's
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spiritual talk, so you're notgoing to understand it and you
have no humility so you're notgoing to at least go.
Well, yeah, I'm wrong and it'sabove my pay grade.
But when it comes tounderstanding Scripture, when it
comes to the understanding ofwho God is, what the Bible is
saying, how it should be applied, that did not come from sound
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doctrine church.
That came from the living God.
1 Corinthians 2.11,.
The Spirit, meaning the HolySpirit of God, searches all
things, even the deep things ofGod.
In other words, you have theHoly Spirit which is in
communication with the livingGod, and that Holy Spirit
searches out what God isthinking.
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God is thinking let's do thesalt shaker.
God is thinking let's have aplace where people can go or
let's preach the gospel here,and that's not a deep thing.
I'm just using that to kind ofgive them a frame.
I'm trying to talk to children,and so I'm trying to baby talk,
and I've never been very goodat that, all right.
So the Spirit searches allthings, even the deep things of
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God.
For who among men knows thethoughts of a man except the
man's spirit within him?
Only I fully know my thoughts,only you fully know your
thoughts.
Correct, correct.
I have no power to hear yourthoughts.
You have no power to hear yourthoughts.
You have no power to hear mythoughts.
So Paul is going on to say inthe same way no one knows the
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thoughts of God except theSpirit of God.
Well, the only way that we canunderstand Scripture, or
understand what God's will is,is if the Holy Spirit
communicates to us what God isthinking.
And that only happens if youhate your own life, if you pick
up your cross, if you denyyourself and follow Jesus Christ
.
That's why you see so much gowrong.
That's called Christianity,because they're not hating their
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thoughts, they're not despisingtheir life, they're not picking
up the cross to really followJesus Christ and they keep God
at a distance, so they keep hissufferings.
That would give them thethoughts of God away from
themselves.
Bottom line.
At this point, all we're reallyseeing is that only the Holy
Spirit knows the thoughts of God, and then God, through the Holy
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Spirit, communicates that to achurch, each individual at the
time, on any scripture.
I could give you hundreds ofexamples.
One example, real quick, is wehad somebody join the church
that believed in one saved,always saved, which is a pretty
common thing.
Okay, simmons.
What that means is you come toJesus Christ, you get saved, and
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then, no matter what you do,you're always going to heaven.
To put it in more perspective,city of Inuklau Detective Grant
McCall believed radically in onesaved, always saved.
So he could commit any crime, hecould falsely accuse anybody he
wants to, he can script out, hecan do all the vile things that
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he did, but because he saved inJesus Christ, he gets to go to
heaven anyway.
Am I correct in that, jacob?
Yes, you are to go to heavenanyway.
Am I correct in that, jacob?
Yes, you are.
You see, simon, you're notgoing to understand that because
you brought in all your seculardarkness to a situation and
since he was a policeman, yougrant him all the special
privileges.
He gets to do all thecorruption he wants, and his
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worldly, dark Christianitybecame the standard of what you
condemned us with.
All right, I kind of went off ona track.
Okay, verse 12 says we have notreceived the spirit of the
world.
This is not a worldly religionyou bumped into at Sound
Doctrine.
This wasn't just talk, this hadpower to it.
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We have not received the spiritof the world, but the spirit
who is from God.
God was communicating thosescriptures.
Nobody was following me and letme tell you something Anybody
who decided to follow meeventually left, and that's why
a lot of people left, becausemost people want to be told what
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to do, don't they, jacob?
Yes, they do.
History all down throughhistory people blindly follow
the government.
Let me bring it down Mostpeople who sit on a jury blindly
follow the manipulation that isgoing on.
There's no real serious, deepdiscussion about justice and
what is justice and what isgoing on.
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I mean, at best there might bediscussions about are they
guilty or not, but have you everheard of a jury?
Well, you know, we werediscussing justice and the
ramifications of justice andwhat the legal system does and
what they represent and all thedifferent schemes they come in,
and so we couldn't come to aconclusion.
Your Honor, because you guysare so corrupt.
Ever heard of it, never heardof it.
Well to them, that would be adeep discussion.
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All right, we have not receivedthe spirit of the world, but
the spirit who is from god, thatwe may understand what god has
freely given us.
People that wanted me to do thework learned the hard way.
I was not going to do theirwork.
I was not going to pick uptheir cross.
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I was not going to do thesufferings that they wanted me
to do.
I was not going to wrestle downtheir sins.
I'm not their savior and Ibarely have the power as I walk
before God.
And that, mr Simmons, is whythey left.
They turned their back on thevery power that could have
overcome sin in their lives.
Anything I need to clarifythere, jacob?
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No, all right, we discussedthis actually a little bit in
the past, so let's not keeppounding on that one, jacob.
Let's go ahead and play thenext clip.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I am sick and tired of Prosecutor Simmons' Bible
study time.
Let us wrap this up.
Let us bring this to an end.
Let their blood be on their ownheads.
Acts 18.6.7,.
When they became abusive, paulshook out his clothes in protest
and said to them your blood beon your own heads.
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I am clear of my responsibility.
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Speaker 1 (32:01):
I will expound on that.
But do I need to expound onthat, jacob?
Speaker 4 (32:06):
In theory you don't, because the scripture is very
clear.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Let's go to Acts 18, verse 6.
In everything that has happenedin this matter no matter who
they are, whether I've met themor talked to them or have not
talked to them there's been onegoal, and that goal is to make
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them responsible to God.
Everybody that didn't doanything to stand up against
this but knows about it is nowresponsible for God.
The warnings have gone out.
The truth has been laid out.
Have I left anything undonethat I should have said or
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spoken to anyone to make clearthat what they are doing, they
will be judged by a holy livingGod, jacob?
No, and at every turn they havebeen abusive, they have been
ignorant.
They refuse to discuss or tolisten.
We were met with complete andtotal contempt, but I have done
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what I needed to do and that'swhy we are concluding Prosecutor
Jason Simmons Bible Study Time.
All of these people that haveignored the website have ignored
the podcast, those that havelistened to it.
They are now accountable beforeGod and I'm not going to be
standing before God and God'sgoing to say well, why didn't
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you tell them?
Why didn't you warn them?
And I don't have time to lookat those scriptures, but we do
have time to look at Acts 18.6.
Jacob, you want to read versesix there?
Speaker 4 (33:52):
But when the Jews opposed Paul and became abusive,
he shook out his clothes andprotest and said to them your
blood be on your own heads.
I am clear of my responsibility.
From now on I will go to theGentiles.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
You know this is not any game.
I get so tired of thismamby-pamby Christianity.
We love one another and we bepatient and be kind.
And you know people tell me oh,you just sing and be happy in
the Lord.
These people are headed to hell.
They're becoming stubborn.
They become more stubborn overtime.
They refuse to look at thetruth, to acknowledge any, to
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make anything of this right.
They are more than willing toallow an innocent man to remain
in prison and a corrupt cop towalk the streets than to
acknowledge any truth, any truth.
Fine, I shake my clothes, thedust off my feet and your blood
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is on your own hands.
That's why I prayed the prayerin the beginning Lord, teach
them, show them that this is nota matter of talk.
Acts 18, 7 says Paul said okay,fine, you guys don't want it.
I'm going next door, I'm out ofhere, jacob.
Let's press on to Romans 12,verse 19.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
When it comes to injustice, leave room for God's
beauty.
Romans 12, 19 through 21.
Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath
.
For it is written it is mine toavenge.
I will repay, says the Lord.
On the contrary, if your enemyis hungry, feed him.
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If he's thirsty, give himsomething to drink.
In doing this, you will heapburning coals on his head.
Do not be overcome by evil, butovercome evil with good.
The offer of a beer standsuntil all must bend the knee.
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Speaker 1 (36:21):
You remember how we talked about not only having one
mind, but the thinking thatgets to that one mind, jacob?
Yes, none of this is aboutrevenge.
In fact, that's really one ofthe beauties I can take all of
this injustice and just wait onthe Lord.
He will bring about justice, hewill avenge.
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That doesn't mean that there'snot a righteous indignation.
That doesn't mean there's not atelling of truth.
That does not mean there's nota wrestling with both God and
man.
There's a lot of sufferinginvolved, but there is no
vengeance in the matter.
You know, I was just thinkingbefore we started this that the
courts in the United States havedone more damage to destroying
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America than any other force inthe United States.
We won't get into that untilthe end.
Again, we're going to get intothat when we begin to discuss
justice and dig deeper into whatKing County prosecutors are up
to.
Romans, chapter 12, verse 19, donot take revenge.
This has nothing about revengeat all.
In fact, that's the joy inJesus Christ.
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I don't have to take revenge.
I can sit back and God willjudge justly, but leave room for
God's wrath, for it is writtenit is mine to avenge.
I will repay, says the Lord.
Now we're not just supposed tobe neutral in that.
So it says, on the contrary, ifyour enemy is hungry, feed him.
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Now I've offered ProsecutorSimmons and a few others a beer,
so they're not hungry.
So I'm going to offer themsomething better.
And somebody else can look atthe podcast or go by the website
to understand what I'm offering.
But that's not a coy kind ofthing.
I'm not being sarcastic, I'mnot being a King County
self-righteous kind of thing.
I'm not rubbing anything.
That's seriously.
You want to sit down for a beer?
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I'll buy you a beer, and I'llbuy you a beer, even if you want
to talk about the Lord or youdon't want to talk about the
Lord.
If your enemy is hungry, feedhim.
If he is thirsty, give himsomething to drink.
In doing this, you will keepburning coals on his head.
Indeed, there is judgmentcoming, and the more that I love
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them, the more that I seek todo kindness and yes, it is a
kindness to preach the truth.
Only an unloving man doesn'twarn another man or person, a
woman, whatever, that they'reheaded to hell.
That would be the height ofunlove and coldness.
Romans 12, 21,.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
what does it say, jacob, do not be overcome by
evil, but overcome evil withgood.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
If there's one thing that prosecutors and King County
prosecutors and police love todo I mean love in a lustful,
vile, dark way is to goad peopleinto what Striking back.
We'd be here for days of videoafter video of prosecutors and
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judges trying to trick people,trying to make them mad.
Right, yes, Understand.
Everybody needs to understand.
The evil is going to increase.
There's going to be a greatfalling away in the church, the
government's only going to getworse and people are going to
become more vicious.
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It really is just gettingdangerous on an interpersonal
level just to say hello and beout in society, isn't it, Jacob?
That's because the courts arepart of the evil one system of
tearing everything down.
Anything more to say on any ofthat, Jacob?
No, All right, let's stop here,and on the next we'll wrap up
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the whole prayer and look atsome other scriptures on the
next podcast.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Nothing on the Consider podcast should be
considered legal or life advice.
Each is admonished to seek aholy God and obey by picking up
a cross to follow Jesus.
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1 Corinthians, chapter 4, verse 20, states a
fact, for the kingdom of God isnot a matter of talk but of
power.
Let's pray, lord.
We pray in your truth ofProverbs 18,.
When wickedness comes, so doescontempt, and with shame comes
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disgrace.
Lord, we humbly ask you tocurse the wickedness of those
who, with vile contempt, trampleupon truth and legal laws,
while propping up liars andcorrupt police.
Bring shame and disgrace intoeach of their lives.
Let a curse hang over theirlives so that they may choose of
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their own free will, life ordeath.
But let them know what it is tohave you who confront sin,
pursuing them.
Lord, consider the uttercontempt King County courts of
Washington State have treatedyou.
Consider, because they hateyour truth and love, they still
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cling to darkness and theirtwisted ways instead of your
light and purity.
Consider, they have prosecutedand judged with their lies, like
the evil one, the greatprosecutor of your people.
Consider and teach thoseinvolved and you know who they
are that you are the living Godwho cannot be mocked.
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Remove the veil of theirdeceptions and demonstrate to
them that you cannot be mocked,as it is written in your word,
galatians 6, 7, do not bedeceived.
God cannot be mocked.
A man reaps what he sows.
Consider, o Lord, theirstubborn refusal to this day, to
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make right their wrongs.
Lord, we know your justice iscoming soon, but if it be, your
will place a curse upon thosewho have stubbornly refused to
repent.
Your curse that is full ofwisdom and love.
According to their choice, maythat curse become a blessing or
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their chosen damnation.
We wait for you, o Lord, and acurse be upon anyone who does
not love you, lord.
1 Corinthians 16, 22.
If anyone does not love theLord, a curse be on him.
Come, o Lord.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Welcome to the Consider podcast, where we
examine today's wisdom, follyand madness.
Amen, how's it going, jacob?
It's going good.
It's time to bring this wholeprosecutor bible study time to a
close.
We've really reached the limitof well, what's it's way beyond
prosecutor simmons pay grade.
Certainly haven't heardanything back, so there's no
point in pursuing and throwingpearls to pigs who obviously
could care less about any truth.
You know, I'm reminded of John,chapter three, verse 12.
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Why don't you read that, jacob?
Speaker 4 (03:34):
John chapter three verse 12.
I have spoken to you of earthlythings and you do not believe.
How, then, will you believe ifI speak of heavenly things?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
You know, everything we've talked about so far,
really about in any podcast, iseasily acceptable.
You may not agree with it, butyou logically can understand,
right, for most people you canexplain the world is round or
oval or whatever and it's coldin the Antarctic.
Those are just facts that youaccept.
Right, correct?
Well, there's anything that wehaven't spoken so far that you
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factually cannot say okay, well,yeah, that's true, or that's a
factual statement, whether itreally be the trial we've
discussed up to this point orany scriptures, we haven't
really got anything that's super, super deep or so far out there
that you couldn't just whetheryou want it or not, right, am I
correct?
I mean you could at there thatyou couldn't just whether you
want it or not, right, am Icorrect?
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I mean you at least say, well,yeah, okay, I get it.
That's what it says.
It's clear, I don't want tolive it or whatever, right?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
well, a lot of people would actually completely
disagree and they would sayyou're taking scriptures out of
context and that you know youjust haven't studied the greek
and hebrew enough.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
But anyways, a lot of people would argue that yeah,
that's a good point, but inorder to and you correct me if
I'm wrong in order to argue thatpoint that you just said, you
at least have to understand whatI'm saying, correct?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
oh yeah, I think everything's been laid out.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Uh yeah, very logically so in the same way, I
might uh say oh yeah, you gottahate and despise money and just
quote it and then they'llcertainly.
Well, you're just taking thatout of context and all of those
things.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yes, but they would acknowledge that, yes, the
scripture's in there.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, in fact, what's ironic about that whole
scripture I don't want to gettoo sidetracked is that most of
the time, 99% of the people thatI talk to that aren't believers
accept what Jesus says at thatpoint and really kind of
understand it.
They just don't want it or theywalk away.
Same thing with you know hatingyour own life or you know
hating your father and mother.
They get what Jesus is saying.
There's not that guttural kindof thing like oh, you're out of
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context or whatever you'resaying.
It's kind of weird to watch.
There's more honesty amongpeople that are pagans with a
lot of scripture than there areamong those who claim to be
believers well, and that's notsuper strange because jesus
talks about right that like uh,I think tax collectors and I
think he knows and another groupof people are getting into
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heaven faster than the phariseesare name into that.
I'm reading a book about thedrug wars and kind of thing.
In the first opening chapterand this is written by a
non-believer he's talking to um,he used to be in the, in the
cartel kind of thing, was areally a mass murder and kill
people.
But he came to jesus christ.
He's in the prison.
I hope to share it later, buthe, he's in the kingdom.
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You know, he's in prison, he'sin dark, he's done some
horrendous things, but he admitsthem and the grace and mercy
there and you can can just tellby even the way the guy's
reporting it, like he doesn'tknow quite what to do with him,
but he's not really questioningthe sincerity, he's more
questioning like, wow, can Godreally forgive that far?
So it's kind of amazing.
Before we get there, though,and we're going to kind of wrap
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things up, it may take two orthree podcasts, I think two, two
, maybe three, um, because Iwant to bring this whole
prosecutor bible study questionto an end.
I mean, I'm really just kind ofsick of it.
It's not really going to goanywhere, do anything, and
things have been explainedthoroughly, but I did find
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something that will help kingcounty prosecutors to go
prosecute.
Oh, okay, yeah, I know it wasquite a surprising thing and it
concerns.
I found a group of people, or atleast two people, let's say, or
one guy, walking in the light.
Oh, okay, and we know how.
King, county prosecutors, jasonsimmons, judge, laurie Smith I
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could go down the line of namesand they thoroughly hate the
walking in the light.
Right, correct, never mind, thewalking in the light is what
keeps a church pure, correct?
I mean, if people know what'sgoing on in a church and you
know we're all sinners, you'rekeeping an eye on so that sin
doesn't happen.
But okay, again, I'm back tologic, explaining it.
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They don't like the light ofJesus Christ, they want their
dark light that gets toprosecute everything and they
get themselves all puffed up.
Anyway, found a group of peopleor a situation where they're
walking in the light.
Now, when I say that Jacob,it's not the walking light that
we know, the one that's full oflove and grace and power, it's
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the Jason Simmons walking in thelight which is defined as Jacob
.
I don't know.
Well, how did he define walkinglight?
I mean, all of those peoplethat testified that he brought
in.
They committed perjury, eachone of those people, for the
prosecution literally could beprosecuted for perjury.
Do you remember what theirdefinition of walking the light
is?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
No, I don't remember their definition, oh, where you
just tell people like everythingyou've ever done, or something
like that.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
That's right.
Everything that you're doing.
You're supposed to telleverything.
We did a whole show on that.
It's easy to forget.
I don't blame you.
Yeah, you're supposed to telleverybody everything that you're
doing all the time.
And we talked about, well, howwould that even work?
First of all, if that was myunderstanding walking in the
light, we'd have a checklist,because I'm not going to spend
my time listening to peopleexplaining every single thing
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they did during the day.
It's not even feasible to havea life correct the day I.
It's not even feasible to havea life correct correct.
Well, I found someone actuallywalking in the light telling
everything they did, and I knowsimmons and king county park is
going to want to go for them.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Oh, okay, let's play it and if you're watching the
video, you can watch it happenthis cop thought it would be
funny to tell his boss his everymove, just to see wash my hands
.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Nobody gives a.
I don't give a.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
What you do.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Do we need to play that again?
Because that's exactly whatSimmons says we were doing.
I know, yeah, minus the cusswords.
I'm not going to do the cusswords, even if we're walking in
life, but that's what they weretold.
You know, let's play that onemore time Because let's let that
sink in, because I want simmonsto take down notes so they can
send whatever police theirpurpose they want to go get
although these are policemen.
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So it's okay what they're doing, but it's not okay what we were
doing.
So let's watch it one more timeand pay attention to this is
what they think walking thelight is.
And now they got something theycan prosecute.
Go for it.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
This cop thought it would be funny to tell his boss
his every move, just to see whatwould happen.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Hey, I'm about to get to the bathroom.
What are you telling me?
Speaker 5 (10:33):
I'm going to the store.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I just got done eating.
I'm about to go wash my hands.
Nobody gives a, hey, I'm out.
Man, I'm about to go wash myhands Nobody gives a, I don't
give a.
What you doing by the way arethese police officers?
Yeah, they're police officers.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
They don't look like they're working very hard, but
that's a side note.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
No, but we won't go there.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
We won't go there.
We don't know what.
Maybe they are just paperpushers.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
A lot of downtime too .
You know, we won't go there.
We don't know what.
Maybe they are just paperpushers.
A lot of downtime too, you knowit's not every place is hopping
with stuff, correct?
Yeah, anyway, any thoughts onthat, jacob?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
No, but yeah, I totally get your point that that
would be absolutely ridiculousand, as the video shows, even in
the world because this isnothing but a worldly video that
would be annoying.
That would be just absolutelydumb to tell somebody everything
you're doing.
So people are going to calleach other up and constantly
just say what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Not in Judge Lori K Smith's courtroom.
That's right.
That's the reason to send aninnocent man to prison.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Here it comes, here comes the best, here comes the
odds and ends, but mostly theends.
Time to conclude ProsecutorSimmons Bible Study Times.
Let us consider why this endingis better than the beginning.
Ecclesiastes 7.8.
The end of a matter is betterthan its beginning.
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Welcome to Prosecutor BibleStudy Time.
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When we answer questions,questions asked by Washington
State, questions demanded byProsecutor Jason Simmons,
rapid-fire questions pounced onby Judge Lori K Smith, questions
asked, questions demandrapid-fire questions, questions
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that were not allowed to beanswered Matthew 22, 15.
Then the Pharisees went out andlaid plans to trap him in his
words.
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Speaker 1 (13:14):
I won't repeat the trial again.
We've got plenty of videos andpodcasts on that.
But let's go to Isaiah, chapter29, verse 20, because I want to
wrap up this Prosecutor Biblestudy time and move on with some
deeper things, better thingsIsaiah 29, 20.
The ruthless will vanish, themockers will disappear and all
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who have an eye for evil will becut down.
That certainly is ProsecutorSimmons and Judge Laurie K Smith
.
You know it didn't matter whatwe did.
It was an eye for evil, meaningthere was one situation where a
married couple were going awayto strengthen their marriage and
he made it sound like it wassome contrived thing to destroy
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the marriage.
I mean, it was a total mockeryof facts, truth, evidence and
everything else.
He was ruthless and JudgeLaurie K Smith ensured that
ruthlessness and added to it.
It says the ruthless willvanish, the mockers will
disappear and all who have aneye for evil will be cut down.
It goes on to talk about thekind of courtrooms that you see
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when you have this kind ofarrogance and pride.
Isaiah 29, 21,.
Those with a word make a manout to be guilty, who ensnare
the defender in court and, withfalse testimony, deprive the.
That fit that whole trial,didn't it Jacob?
Yes, it did.
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Well, let's try and odds andends.
I'm trying to pull togethersome pieces here that I'm not
sure got fully answered.
One of the implications and theattack was that everybody did
everything that I said.
That was seen to be this Unitedmindset or this group thing
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that had only to do with what Ihad to say.
So it looked like there wasthis unity going on, correct,
correct?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
well, they were trying to paint, to paint.
Painted as I think you were theclassic.
Paint it as I think you werethe classic cult leader.
Everybody had to do what yousaid.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh, of course, of course, but that's because they
reported to me everything theydid at every second of the day,
and of course I had to approvethat also.
Yes, the truth of the matter iswithin Jesus Christ, since the
kingdom of God is not a matterof talk.
I need to repeat that again.
It's not a matter of talk, butof power.
1 Corinthians 1.10.
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I'll let you read it, Jacob,because it answers why there was
this unity that you could seewithin the church, but it wasn't
a unity based upon my effortsto keep everybody contained and
everybody together.
I mean, that's not evenphysically possible in a large
group of people.
Go ahead and read 1 Corinthians1.10, Jacob.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our
Lord Jesus Christ, that all ofyou agree with one another, so
that there may be no divisionsamong you and that you may be
perfectly united in mind andthought.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
There's your answer, prosecutor Simmons, whether you
believe it or not.
I didn't have to run around.
I didn't even want to go aroundtrying to get everybody to
think what.
First of all, I didn't evenknow what God wanted to do the
next day, so it's not like Icould even make this game plan.
Let's go do this here and let'sdo this over here.
But look at what it says.
I appeal to you, brothers, inthe name of our Lord Jesus
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Christ.
You know, god doesn't ask us todo things and just mock us at
it when God comes along and hesays be perfectly united.
That sounds like animpossibility, doesn't Jacob?
If I walked into most churchesand I said, okay, everybody in
this church needs to beperfectly united in mind and in
thought, now think about that.
(16:53):
Those are actually twodifferent things.
Being united in mind meanseverybody agrees on something.
Let's do something simple likelet's have a Sunday picnic,
right?
Yeah, everybody agrees that wehave a Sunday picnic.
That would be one mind.
But it's the thinking processthat you get to the decision to
have Sunday picnic.
That would be one mind, butit's the thinking process that
you get to the decision to havethe picnic.
(17:15):
In other words, if they were allperfectly united in thought yes
, that's a good idea.
We can fellowship, we can loveone another, we could reach out
to other people, we couldcelebrate in the Lord.
But you know that thinkingprocess is not going on with
everybody, whether it even bethe kids growing up.
Well, some would be oh, I likeMartha's bean salad, or I get
(17:36):
cake and ice cream, or let's goplay, or the glutton goes, I get
free food.
You see what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, and I'm makingclear that there's a difference
between being perfectly remindedin like a goal that we're going
to do, but you also in the Lord, have to have the correct
thinking pattern to get to thatgoal.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Yeah, the goal is the Holy Spirit.
A mind controlled by the Spiritis life and peace.
But that's just an example.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
All right.
So how would I, under humanpower, get everybody to think
the correct process to get tothe proper decision?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Under human power.
You can't.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
It's impossible.
So when you see this unitygoing on, there's no, I'm not
just interested in a united mindthat we all okay, we all agree
on doing the salt shaker rightIn Jesus Christ, it's not only
do we agree on doing the saltshaker, but the thinking process
of why and how we get there andwhat should be done.
That thinking process should beunited among everybody else.
(18:36):
So you're going to walk into agroup, into a church like that.
If they were really living thisor even getting close to it,
wouldn't you think, in a humankind of understanding, that
there's something weird going on?
Yes, because in most places, inmost homes, in most churches,
even in your own family, thethinking process to going to do
(18:57):
something is different with eachindividual.
Can you think of any exampleslike that, jacob?
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Well, say that.
What was the question again?
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Well, we go like this .
You'd say let's go visitgrandpa.
And to the child the grandpa is, or to the child is thinking,
oh good, I can go play atgrandpa's house with the toys.
You're thinking let's gofellowship and love grandpa.
Correct Two different thinkingprocesses.
And so, as the child grows, youdon't want them continuing
(19:31):
thinking well, yeah, let's govisit grandpa because of things
I can get from grandpa.
Correct, Correct, yes, so that'swhat the scripture is saying
that we have.
Once the heart is purified andonce we're surrendering
everything to Jesus Christ, it'snot only that we have the same
mind, but we also have the samethinking process, the same heart
, and that's why Paul is able tosay I appeal to you, brothers,
(19:52):
in the name of our Lord JesusChrist, because only his power
can do that, Only his power cando it among the surrendered
saints.
That's a big if that all of youagree with one another so that
there may be no division amongyou and that you may be
perfectly united in mind andthought.
That's a tall scripture, isn'tit?
(20:13):
Yes, it is Well.
No wonder dark King Countyprosecutors honed in on this to
destroy it.
This is light, this is life,this is power.
If this is real.
If you're touching on this, youbetter believe Enoch, Claude,
detective Baptist King Jamesonly self-righteous detective is
going to go for this and hisGod and who he really worships
(20:36):
going to stir him up to hatethat, Correct, Correct?
If it was the normal churchwhere you got the committee,
everybody spends eight monthsdoing things and you spend years
doing stuff and nothing evergets done of any significance or
you do what You're grindingyour teeth, it takes forever and
there's so much wasted time.
Right, Correct, yeah, but in achurch full of this kind of
(20:59):
power, let's just say there's aproject, Like you know, let's
have a house where people can goand get away with their
families and build theirfamilies up and love one another
and seek the Lord.
Right, let's just say we havethat.
There's two ways to do that.
One we form a committee.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
We form a subsect of donations.
We spend five years getting allthat right.
We go through all that.
You got to raise the money.
We got to raise the money forthis to happen correct.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
We got to write who's going to be in charge of it.
Who's going to do?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
the maintenance.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
It just goes down and it's just bogged down and
there's no, there's no joy in it.
You wind up with this wholeweird quasi-government thing.
Right, correct?
And if that's what the Lordwanted to do and I'm saying that
he may want to work throughsome committee-type thing, but
it would be totally differentthan what I just said, correct?
Well, let's just, he comesalong, he puts it on everybody's
(21:44):
heart and on their mind.
Yeah, let's have this placewhere people can go.
The whole church is going well,yeah this is great.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Why would that not be a good thing, Jacob?
I don't see any reason why itwouldn't be a good thing.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Correct.
So you submit to the Lord.
Lord, is this really of you?
Or are we just doing somethingnoble?
So you surrender your mind,your goal, okay, god, that's
what you want.
And then the thinking processof how that is done gets into
work and you know all right,fine, I plead guilty.
It was done in the mostefficient way possible, arranged
in the most positive way thatwe had no books lined out what
(22:16):
people could do.
They were scheduled to come,but guess what?
Prosecutor jason simmons turnedto a church where everybody's a
servant of all and he goes oh,were you compensated for that?
Yeah, and obviously theperjurer said no.
But oh, yeah, that's the fact.
But it's still perjury becauseyou're lying about the situation
.
Correct, make sense.
(22:37):
Did I answer the question nowabout unity?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
You answered the question, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
All right, go ahead and play that next scripture,
jacob, and then we're going todiscuss 1 Corinthians 2, verse
11.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things
of God.
For who among men knows thethoughts of a man except the
man's spirit within him?
In the same way, no one knowsthe thoughts of God except the
Spirit of God.
We have not received the Spiritof the world, but the Spirit
who is from God, that we mayunderstand what God has freely
(23:14):
given us.
This is what we speak, not inwords taught us by human wisdom,
but in words taught by theSpirit, expressing spiritual
truths in spiritual words.
The man without the Spirit doesnot accept the things that come
from the Spirit of God, forthey are foolishness to him and
he cannot understand thembecause they are spiritually
(23:37):
discerned.
The spiritual man makesjudgments about all things, but
he himself is not subject to anyman's judgment, for who has
known the mind of the Lord thathe may instruct him, but we have
the mind of Christ.
1 Corinthians, 2, 11-16.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
King County prosecutors, you know police.
Since they don't worship JesusChrist, they naturally hate the
things of Jesus Christ.
And what you had going on withthis whole trial was you had the
most spiritual aspects at SoundDoctrine Church brought into
(24:17):
the most worldly dark area ofKing County courts.
Now do you think in anyrational way there's going to be
any type of communication thatcan really happen?
No, to put it in more simpleterms, humility bumped into
arrogance and that's just notgoing to work.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Well, I mean the courts.
They're just suppressing thetruth, so you're not going to
get anywhere.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah, we'll get into after we finish the prosecutor
Bible study time.
We're going to be talking aboutjustice and that's why I said I
wanted to wrap this up, becauseif Prosecutor Simmons and King
County Courts Judge Laurie KSmith can understand this, they
are certainly not going tounderstand justice when we get
there.
So it just becomes a wholeother section In the same way.
Okay, jacob, do I.
Can I read your mind?
No, can you read my mind?
Speaker 5 (25:06):
no, at best we can kind of know each other to a
degree that we kind of know whateach other's thinking where
someone's going.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
I'm sorry what you can anticipate where one of us
may go in a situation?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Correct, but you don't know.
That is correct.
But what we don't know, and wedon't try to, is to read each
other's minds.
I mean, the CIA has spent notelling how much wasted money to
try and read minds, right?
Yeah, mr Simmons, you have tounderstand.
Like, okay, a, you don't wantto understand and B, it's
(25:40):
spiritual talk, so you're notgoing to understand it and you
have no humility so you're notgoing to at least go.
Well, yeah, I'm wrong and it'sabove my pay grade.
But when it comes tounderstanding Scripture, when it
comes to the understanding ofwho God is, what the Bible is
saying, how it should be applied, that did not come from sound
(26:01):
doctrine church.
That came from the living God.
1 Corinthians 2.11,.
The Spirit, meaning the HolySpirit of God, searches all
things, even the deep things ofGod.
In other words, you have theHoly Spirit which is in
communication with the livingGod, and that Holy Spirit
searches out what God isthinking.
(26:23):
God is thinking let's do thesalt shaker.
God is thinking let's have aplace where people can go or
let's preach the gospel here,and that's not a deep thing.
I'm just using that to kind ofgive them a frame.
I'm trying to talk to children,and so I'm trying to baby talk,
and I've never been very goodat that, all right.
So the Spirit searches allthings, even the deep things of
(26:44):
God.
For who among men knows thethoughts of a man except the
man's spirit within him?
Only I fully know my thoughts,only you fully know your
thoughts.
Correct, correct.
I have no power to hear yourthoughts.
You have no power to hear yourthoughts.
You have no power to hear mythoughts.
So Paul is going on to say inthe same way no one knows the
(27:05):
thoughts of God except theSpirit of God.
Well, the only way that we canunderstand Scripture, or
understand what God's will is,is if the Holy Spirit
communicates to us what God isthinking.
And that only happens if youhate your own life, if you pick
up your cross, if you denyyourself and follow Jesus Christ
.
That's why you see so much gowrong.
That's called Christianity,because they're not hating their
(27:28):
thoughts, they're not despisingtheir life, they're not picking
up the cross to really followJesus Christ and they keep God
at a distance, so they keep hissufferings.
That would give them thethoughts of God away from
themselves.
Bottom line.
At this point, all we're reallyseeing is that only the Holy
Spirit knows the thoughts of God, and then God, through the Holy
(27:49):
Spirit, communicates that to achurch, each individual at the
time, on any scripture.
I could give you hundreds ofexamples.
One example, real quick, is wehad somebody join the church
that believed in one saved,always saved, which is a pretty
common thing.
Okay, simmons.
What that means is you come toJesus Christ, you get saved, and
(28:09):
then, no matter what you do,you're always going to heaven.
To put it in more perspective,city of Inuklau Detective Grant
McCall believed radically in onesaved, always saved.
So he could commit any crime, hecould falsely accuse anybody he
wants to, he can script out, hecan do all the vile things that
(28:32):
he did, but because he saved inJesus Christ, he gets to go to
heaven anyway.
Am I correct in that, jacob?
Yes, you are to go to heavenanyway.
Am I correct in that, jacob?
Yes, you are.
You see, simon, you're notgoing to understand that because
you brought in all your seculardarkness to a situation and
since he was a policeman, yougrant him all the special
privileges.
He gets to do all thecorruption he wants, and his
(28:54):
worldly, dark Christianitybecame the standard of what you
condemned us with.
All right, I kind of went off ona track.
Okay, verse 12 says we have notreceived the spirit of the
world.
This is not a worldly religionyou bumped into at Sound
Doctrine.
This wasn't just talk, this hadpower to it.
(29:16):
We have not received the spiritof the world, but the spirit
who is from God.
God was communicating thosescriptures.
Nobody was following me and letme tell you something Anybody
who decided to follow meeventually left, and that's why
a lot of people left, becausemost people want to be told what
(29:39):
to do, don't they, jacob?
Yes, they do.
History all down throughhistory people blindly follow
the government.
Let me bring it down Mostpeople who sit on a jury blindly
follow the manipulation that isgoing on.
There's no real serious, deepdiscussion about justice and
what is justice and what isgoing on.
(29:59):
I mean, at best there might bediscussions about are they
guilty or not, but have you everheard of a jury?
Well, you know, we werediscussing justice and the
ramifications of justice andwhat the legal system does and
what they represent and all thedifferent schemes they come in,
and so we couldn't come to aconclusion.
Your Honor, because you guysare so corrupt.
Ever heard of it, never heardof it.
Well to them, that would be adeep discussion.
(30:24):
All right, we have not receivedthe spirit of the world, but
the spirit who is from god, thatwe may understand what god has
freely given us.
People that wanted me to do thework learned the hard way.
I was not going to do theirwork.
I was not going to pick uptheir cross.
(30:44):
I was not going to do thesufferings that they wanted me
to do.
I was not going to wrestle downtheir sins.
I'm not their savior and Ibarely have the power as I walk
before God.
And that, mr Simmons, is whythey left.
They turned their back on thevery power that could have
overcome sin in their lives.
Anything I need to clarifythere, jacob?
(31:07):
No, all right, we discussedthis actually a little bit in
the past, so let's not keeppounding on that one, jacob.
Let's go ahead and play thenext clip.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I am sick and tired of Prosecutor Simmons' Bible
study time.
Let us wrap this up.
Let us bring this to an end.
Let their blood be on their ownheads.
Acts 18.6.7,.
When they became abusive, paulshook out his clothes in protest
and said to them your blood beon your own heads.
(31:44):
I am clear of my responsibility.
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Speaker 1 (32:01):
I will expound on that.
But do I need to expound onthat, jacob?
Speaker 4 (32:06):
In theory you don't, because the scripture is very
clear.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Let's go to Acts 18, verse 6.
In everything that has happenedin this matter no matter who
they are, whether I've met themor talked to them or have not
talked to them there's been onegoal, and that goal is to make
(32:34):
them responsible to God.
Everybody that didn't doanything to stand up against
this but knows about it is nowresponsible for God.
The warnings have gone out.
The truth has been laid out.
Have I left anything undonethat I should have said or
(32:56):
spoken to anyone to make clearthat what they are doing, they
will be judged by a holy livingGod, jacob?
No, and at every turn they havebeen abusive, they have been
ignorant.
They refuse to discuss or tolisten.
We were met with complete andtotal contempt, but I have done
(33:20):
what I needed to do and that'swhy we are concluding Prosecutor
Jason Simmons Bible Study Time.
All of these people that haveignored the website have ignored
the podcast, those that havelistened to it.
They are now accountable beforeGod and I'm not going to be
standing before God and God'sgoing to say well, why didn't
(33:42):
you tell them?
Why didn't you warn them?
And I don't have time to lookat those scriptures, but we do
have time to look at Acts 18.6.
Jacob, you want to read versesix there?
Speaker 4 (33:52):
But when the Jews opposed Paul and became abusive,
he shook out his clothes andprotest and said to them your
blood be on your own heads.
I am clear of my responsibility.
From now on I will go to theGentiles.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
You know this is not any game.
I get so tired of thismamby-pamby Christianity.
We love one another and we bepatient and be kind.
And you know people tell me oh,you just sing and be happy in
the Lord.
These people are headed to hell.
They're becoming stubborn.
They become more stubborn overtime.
They refuse to look at thetruth, to acknowledge any, to
(34:32):
make anything of this right.
They are more than willing toallow an innocent man to remain
in prison and a corrupt cop towalk the streets than to
acknowledge any truth, any truth.
Fine, I shake my clothes, thedust off my feet and your blood
(34:54):
is on your own hands.
That's why I prayed the prayerin the beginning Lord, teach
them, show them that this is nota matter of talk.
Acts 18, 7 says Paul said okay,fine, you guys don't want it.
I'm going next door, I'm out ofhere, jacob.
Let's press on to Romans 12,verse 19.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
When it comes to injustice, leave room for God's
beauty.
Romans 12, 19 through 21.
Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath
.
For it is written it is mine toavenge.
I will repay, says the Lord.
On the contrary, if your enemyis hungry, feed him.
(35:44):
If he's thirsty, give himsomething to drink.
In doing this, you will heapburning coals on his head.
Do not be overcome by evil, butovercome evil with good.
The offer of a beer standsuntil all must bend the knee.
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(36:12):
madness wwwconsiderinfo.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
You remember how we talked about not only having one
mind, but the thinking thatgets to that one mind, jacob?
Yes, none of this is aboutrevenge.
In fact, that's really one ofthe beauties I can take all of
this injustice and just wait onthe Lord.
He will bring about justice, hewill avenge.
(36:45):
That doesn't mean that there'snot a righteous indignation.
That doesn't mean there's not atelling of truth.
That does not mean there's nota wrestling with both God and
man.
There's a lot of sufferinginvolved, but there is no
vengeance in the matter.
You know, I was just thinkingbefore we started this that the
courts in the United States havedone more damage to destroying
(37:06):
America than any other force inthe United States.
We won't get into that untilthe end.
Again, we're going to get intothat when we begin to discuss
justice and dig deeper into whatKing County prosecutors are up
to.
Romans, chapter 12, verse 19, donot take revenge.
This has nothing about revengeat all.
In fact, that's the joy inJesus Christ.
(37:27):
I don't have to take revenge.
I can sit back and God willjudge justly, but leave room for
God's wrath, for it is writtenit is mine to avenge.
I will repay, says the Lord.
Now we're not just supposed tobe neutral in that.
So it says, on the contrary, ifyour enemy is hungry, feed him.
(37:48):
Now I've offered ProsecutorSimmons and a few others a beer,
so they're not hungry.
So I'm going to offer themsomething better.
And somebody else can look atthe podcast or go by the website
to understand what I'm offering.
But that's not a coy kind ofthing.
I'm not being sarcastic, I'mnot being a King County
self-righteous kind of thing.
I'm not rubbing anything.
That's seriously.
You want to sit down for a beer?
(38:09):
I'll buy you a beer, and I'llbuy you a beer, even if you want
to talk about the Lord or youdon't want to talk about the
Lord.
If your enemy is hungry, feedhim.
If he is thirsty, give himsomething to drink.
In doing this, you will keepburning coals on his head.
Indeed, there is judgmentcoming, and the more that I love
(38:31):
them, the more that I seek todo kindness and yes, it is a
kindness to preach the truth.
Only an unloving man doesn'twarn another man or person, a
woman, whatever, that they'reheaded to hell.
That would be the height ofunlove and coldness.
Romans 12, 21,.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
what does it say, jacob, do not be overcome by
evil, but overcome evil withgood.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
If there's one thing that prosecutors and King County
prosecutors and police love todo I mean love in a lustful,
vile, dark way is to goad peopleinto what Striking back.
We'd be here for days of videoafter video of prosecutors and
(39:21):
judges trying to trick people,trying to make them mad.
Right, yes, Understand.
Everybody needs to understand.
The evil is going to increase.
There's going to be a greatfalling away in the church, the
government's only going to getworse and people are going to
become more vicious.
(39:41):
It really is just gettingdangerous on an interpersonal
level just to say hello and beout in society, isn't it, Jacob?
That's because the courts arepart of the evil one system of
tearing everything down.
Anything more to say on any ofthat, Jacob?
No, All right, let's stop here,and on the next we'll wrap up
(40:07):
the whole prayer and look atsome other scriptures on the
next podcast.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Nothing on the Consider podcast should be
considered legal or life advice.
Each is admonished to seek aholy God and obey by picking up
a cross to follow Jesus.
The Consider Podcastwwwconsiderinfo.
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