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July 26, 2021 46 min

In this episode, we chat with Dr. Barney Melekian, current Chief of the Santa Barbara Police Department in California.  Barney is a lifelong public servant having worked for the Santa Monica Police Department, Chief of the Pasadena Police, Director of the COPS Office for the U.S. Department of Justice, the undersheriff of the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Office. 

A veteran of the U.S. Army and the U.S. Coast Guard, he was deployed to the Middle East during the Gulf Wars. 

In an interesting discussion, we talked about the state of policing, the hopefulness for improvement, the importance of community relationships, and the future. 

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