Comedy, Controversy, and Culture

Have you ever heard a name that made you do a double-take? Whether it's a giggle or a gasp, names carry history, identity, and sometimes, a bit of controversy. Jeff and Ant are back, marking our monumental 150th episode with a signature mix of humor and depth, as we dissect the intricate tapestry of the Knigga family's legacy against a backdrop of fantasy football madness and cultural quirks.

Step into a world where underground tunnels in Brooklyn aren't just for subways, and Hollywood's penchant for putting men in dresses stirs more than just laughter. We'll navigate the secret pathways beneath a synagogue with the same ease as questioning societal norms, and don't miss our take on Katt Williams' latest brazen interview. As the screen of entertainment continues to evolve, so does our discussion, exploring the new era of streaming playoff games and what it means for your wallet and your weekend plans.

Finally, let's talk about the elephant in the room—or should we say the list? Epstein's notorious list, that is.  Join us for an episode that's as much about the connections we share as human beings as it is about the laughs, we need to navigate this ever-twisting world. Buckle up, as we embark on this special episode of comedy, controversy, and culture.  #Kattwilliams #epsteinlist #NoahKnigga #Jews #nfl #jeffreyepstein

🌲Linktree - https://linktr.ee/theculture2020

⭐Become a Culture Crew member - Jeff DeLaRosa and Anthony Austin | are the co-host of The Culture podcast | Patreon

Topics Discussed: 

• Noah Knigga
• Jews in the sewers
• Epstein list
• Katt Williams

🔗Referenced Links:
Secret Tunnel in NYC Synagogue Leads to Brawl Between Police and Worshippers (usnews.com)

Jeffrey Epstein contact names revealed in unsealed documents. Here are key takeaways from the files. - CBS News

Katt Williams’ Viral Shannon Sharpe Interview Offers Essential Lessons For Brands (forbes.com)

2025 prospect

Learn Spanish con Salsa 🎙️
Do you 💖 Latin music and travel? Learn Spanish every week with music and conversation 🎶

Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify

Buy us a Beer!
Like our show? Go ahead and buy us a coffee....Or a Beer!

Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.

Support the show

Thanks for listening! Please follow us on all our socials!
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
TikTok
Pinterest

Kniggers are a farming familyaround 1880 and 1920.
It was hard for Knigger.
416 Kniggers, 52 have served inthe military.

(00:21):
Imagine a world where you havemcconkey being tackled by a
knigger Right here outside.
Look how he dipped theirshoulder.
He can't help the level of thepeople that he's playing around
and where he was born.
But I see something like he'shere in coverage.

(00:43):
Look at him break.
Oh, look at that.
Like he's playing at adifferent speed than everybody
else.
For the sake of Humanity in theculture and bringing the races
together, we have got to getthese knickers out of Indiana.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
You.
Yes, sir, yes sir, we're here.
2024, First episode of the year, episode 150 actually.
So it's also a milestoneepisode.
It's your boy, jeff.
I'm here with my man, aunt.
The culture we talking aboutcomedy.

(01:20):
We talking about controversy,we talking about culture.
What do you want?

Speaker 3 (01:25):
first, and I don't give a fuck, man.
I don't care.
I know it's been a week, so youmight just start off with this
cat shit.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Actually, before we get into that, I'm gonna give
them a shout out to patreon's,our coach a crew, because one of
our cultural crew members had alittle beef Well, not a beef,
but a little complaint.
Shout out to my man D block.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
What is his fucking complaint?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
He said for 2024, aunt needs to get a mic that's
attached to his face so we canhear him.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Look, the thing is that if you couldn't hear me,
you wouldn't say anything.
You can't hear me.
This is what we're gonna do.
All right, come in, mike.
What?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
we gonna do.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
I'm gonna pull this mic out.
We're gonna look fuck all thisother shit.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
We're gonna hold it in our hands like we there we go
like like an interviewer, likelike like 12, 12 news, like yo,
yo who got shot?
Like you mean Jean Oaklandbrother, yeah, yo, you ain't
gonna say who snitch, though,but we bought to be in the air
like five minutes.
Just tell us who shot.
When the cameras roll out, it'sjust not his whole name, but a
street name.
We got you come on dog.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Speaking of culture crew members, would you like to
take this time to formallycongratulate King Kaiser the
third on his fantasy footballchampionship victory over you,
fuck no cuz he went.
So you being, you being a soreloser.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
No, you, you explain the scenario.
Then I was right.
You state what happened and Iwill explain my okay, go ahead,
get down.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
So, for the first time ever, which is no, seems to
be a trending thing in thistimeout.
It's for the second time ever,because it happened a year
before no, but last year ithappened.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
It was different.
It was a different situation.
There was a football game thatwas canceled because of the
player got a heart attack in themiddle of a game, so we decided
to just keep the finals as atie.
Mm-hmm, and ya split theearnings homeboy yeah we this
year.
The actual game ended in thetie.
It was you in the finals forthe third straight time and the

(03:29):
what's the name of the damnleague.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
It's your league oh fuck it league oh.
My god, it's your league.
I'm good, Whatever.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
The grid iron League of Champions.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
The grid iron League of legends and you put da to put
some spice on it.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
It's not the is duh, but duh continue, mm-hmm, you
made it to the finals for thethird consecutive year.
Only player that ever do thatAgainst grand Kaiser, king
Kaiser, the third making hisvery first appearance in the
finals.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
And oh, and the sidebar if, if you, if your
dudes would have functionedrightfully the first week, he
probably wouldn't have made it,because you played him and
Mm-hmm, you had, I think, justinHerbert.
Justin bummed it up, a coupledudes bummed up me and he had a
shot.
All right, couldn't continuewith the story, though.
Go ahead though.
Finish off.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
The final score ends like what was it like?

Speaker 3 (04:23):
100 to 100?

Speaker 2 (04:25):
It's a tie great a tie the first time has ever
happened to us in this league.
Right and when the finals?
Okay, historically, during theseason at least, when the game
ends in a tie, when a matchupends in a tie, we go with.
You know, we go to the benchpoints, correct?
Yes, so in my mind I'm like,okay, it has the most bench

(04:45):
points when and that's whateverybody else thought.
All right.
So, as gonna ant wins, you know, we even congratulated you and
everything All right.
The next day, or I might havetaken ESPN like two days to
adjust the shit.
Like Tuesday morning the shitends, you know, sunday or
whatever it might have.
Was there a Monday game?
I think there was a Monday game.
And then Tuesday morning ESPNshows, even though the score is

(05:09):
tied throughout the whole time,it showed that it was just a tie
.
It was 50, 50% each of y'all.
Yeah, it was, it was a tie.
I was like, oh shit, it's gonnaend in a tie.
What the fuck?
Tuesday comes and ESPN has KingKaiser winning.
We're like, oh, wait a minute.
So now I have to look and I'mat work, you know I'm saying I'm
not even paying attention tothis.
So now I gotta look at therules.
Like what's going on here?
I'm trying to hit up ESPN, I'mtrying to talk to them.

(05:32):
What's going on here?
We look at the rules and it'sstill kind of, we still got to
talk about it.
But Apparently, once you getinto the playoffs, the season
rules for tiebreakers do notapply.
So we're no longer going withthe bench points to determine a
winner in the finals before yousaid According to the ESPN rules

(05:54):
before you say the next thinghold on to that point.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Now Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
So apparently they go by either whoever had the best
overall record in the throughoutthe season or who had the most
overall points throughout theseason, and in both cases it
would have been Kaiser.
So it was a lot of back andforth.
I You're upset, kaiser wasupset.
I'm just trying to do the fairthing.
I'm trying to do was right forthe league.
I'm trying to put it to a vote.

(06:19):
Ultimately, we concluded like,yeah, espn has Kaiser winning.
You know I'm saying next yearwe're gonna have to really look
at these rules and, you know,vote for it.
But as of right now, kaiser isthe champion.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
It was enough, said.
He's kept going back and forthand like you know what?
Fucking take it, take it out,okay, you don't win.
Yeah, good for you.
Everybody throws confetti.
Here's the problem.
You go by the bench pointsbecause you have players that
didn't play.
But if they would have playedif you swap the mouse I'm also
that you probably had a betterchance.
I get that.
But you're in the playoffs.
Your regular season recorddoesn't matter because You're in

(06:52):
the playoffs.
That like no one cared.
Just all the playoffs careabout.
Regards a record is seating.
Who plays who wouldn't wearjust like playoff games this
weekend.
The regular season don't matter.
How many points you scored inregular season don't matter.
Could you got into the playoffsif he would have finished under
500 and then would have made itand then, with a tide Like it
didn't like okay but, and hisbench would have scored more, it

(07:15):
would have went down to thepoints or his record in the
regular season.
But it doesn't matter, you'rein the playoffs.
None of it.
All that shit goes out thewindow.
You played a season to get intothat.
So I don't know what are rulesand say the rules, and that's
why I was like you know I don'tcare about splitting the first
and second price, I'll takesecond.
It's fine, he could take first,he can be happy.

(07:37):
So it's a fourth by himself,something nice.
It could stay dinner, some shit.
Whatever he wants to do, but ingeneral, the rules remain the
rules.
But he just wanted to have itthis way.
So I'm like look, you won.
Am I gonna thank you for it?
Fucking no, do you have thechampionship?
Yeah, are you gonna lose nextyear?
Probably.

(07:57):
You ain't one shit in a longtime.
You got you one off atechnicality.
It's not like you beat me fairand square, you're one off a
technicality.
As a matter of fact, if Jordanlove had just had one less point
, you lose.
He just decided to go crazy cuzhe was down 30 something.
You just happened to come backat the very end, but the shit
was over for you.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
But but in his, in his defense, if they don't take
Jordan, love out the game, healso gets the extra points that
he needs right when decisivelyright he could have won and he
could have lost, but he didn't.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
He tied right.
That's we're saying.
It it's a tie.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
We could just split the shit up, but so you just so
you're gonna do the Trump moveand not Congratulate the winner.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Shit fuck that you lost in a problem.
There's a whole thing.
We can do this right now.
We can make a side bet, so I'mguessing that I'm gonna have to
play him twice next year, likein fantasy.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Right depends of behind the same division.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Okay, let's, let's try to make that happen.
Let's try to make sure we inthe same division let's say we
go ahead and play each othertwice We'll put a hundred
dollars up on each game.
If he, if he, feels comfortablewith that because I know he won
a nice chunk of Money he couldset someone at the side for next
year if he wants to do that.
But I mean, he's King, kaiser,he got it like that.
He should be able, he'slistening.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
So when she responds and we'll dissect it a little
bit like I, said, cuz, if I winone, he won, everybody breaks
even.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
But if I win both, you know, if I lose both, I'm a
willing man to pay.
But, like I said, he, the king,is up to him.
He wants to make a choice inregards to this.
He wants to go ahead and playthe play games.
Go ahead, we hear, for you, butit's not even an open challenge
Just want to say, like you wantto, this is like if you're so
good, you can win thechampionship and add money on
top of it.
That's how good of a fantasyfor a player I think you are.

(09:35):
I think should accept this back.
Man Cuz, I believe in you, I do, I do.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
All right, well, let's get the episode started.
Man, Congrats to King Kaiserthe third.
Let's just talk about what westarted to show off with real
quick okay, ready when this is ahigh school player out of
Indiana.
He plays football and he playsbasketball and he plays both of
them very well.

(10:01):
He is a white boy.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
He's a special Kanaiga.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
His first name is Noah.
Problem is his last name isCanik, and I'm not gonna say a
nigga.
It's spelled K and I GG a.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Canik a, can I get me ?
Yeah, and they say it can makeit.
So how has to?
How have they been?
How have they pronounced?

Speaker 2 (10:27):
I'm not saying it.
I'm not.
I'm not gonna attempt topronounce that shit.
Look, his father came on and hesaid how you pronounced it.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, what did he say ?
Did he say it the way you thinkit said?

Speaker 2 (10:36):
It's K like K a pronounced cuh Nay Go can a
apparently, but when you say itfast is not gonna sound like
that.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, cuh Nate, I don't hear a or eat a, miladette
.
His spelling is K and I peopleare gonna say it.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
It's gonna be interesting to see, when he
makes it to the league Whateverleague he makes it to how
they're gonna be pronouncing hisname.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
They are never gonna put his games on ESPN.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
They should have been an established moment, because
do you think his parents shouldhave, just for the sake of him
and their entire family, shouldhave they have changed or
abbreviated the name orshortened it and just made it
K-Nig, or you know, I'm saying IKnow?

Speaker 1 (11:18):
no, we're the Knugs no.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
I would have changed that, especially if I'm aspiring
to be a famous athlete.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Why you change it your family name for what it is.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
That doesn't make any sense to me just just to avoid
Conflict scrutiny, embarrassmentand the like it's not conflict,
scrutiny or embarrassment isactually just kind of fucking
hilarious.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
It is okay, I'll tell you why it's Harris.
I'll tell you why it'shilarious.
This whole situation with himis literally a Dave's Chappelle
sketch.
Remember he had the niggerfamily and IGG AR.
Same thing, same shit.
So you get the jokes out of itand that's what it is.

(12:05):
But you don't change your nameto kind of say something that's
not offensive.
Like there was a kid I remembergrowing up and his name Fuck,
was it Larry Lawrence?
Larry, his name was Larry kike.
Kike kik name was like oh god,now that name with the spelling

(12:26):
and everything correct.
Now the name I'm saying couldbe a little bit offensive, but
it's his family's name, didn'tget to the origins.
I didn't ask about it, just itwas what it was.
I Wouldn't ask him to change.
You shouldn't change anything.
For anyone to make someone feelcomfortable is regarding your
own heritage.
It's one of those things whenpeople talk about.
You should talk a certain way,speak a certain way, act a

(12:47):
certain way, because you don'twant it to be something that
didn't great your culture.
If you have long, luxurious,currently full hair because of
your Hispanic heritage orethnicity, you shouldn't have to
straighten it out for nobody.
If you happen to have, you know, broad features, who lips and
nose and nose, that youshouldn't make them smaller to

(13:09):
make people comfortable.
If that man, to a degree, seemslike it has a slightly
unfortunate name, it's hisfamily name, they, if they say
in Connecticut, they say, canyou get to each other all the
time like I'm welcome to the,the Connecticut Union, which is
hilarious to say when you thinkabout it out loud, but that's
how it is.
But I mean if, if you, if he'sgonna be a football player or

(13:32):
basketball player, for sakes,maybe you just have a nickname
like special K or something likethat, I don't know.
Like, yeah, basket, score byspecial K, tackle by special K,
it's easier.
Or just do the first initial Isit's not that it's just seen.
That on the back of a jersey isjust distracting, it is.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Like Kate Nick, I'm curious to see how many of these
white, how many white folks aregonna say that name Like often,
just to be able to say the wordhe can't play with brothers
because we don't fuck that nameup.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
We won't climb his ass all day Like, oh you think
you're nice, my boy?
Oh, all right, kate nigger.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Do you think the networks are gonna purposely
tell the white commentators toMinute, you know, to limit the
amount of times they say hisname?

Speaker 3 (14:18):
No, but that's that's even saying it.
If he's gonna even be that nice, because it's a lot of like,
especially like football.
It's a lot of like.
Hundreds upon hundreds oftalented football players every
year.
You know four and five starones, yeah, but he might be like
a two, three star recruits.
You might make it like that,like it is in.
The only thing that makes thatman Interesting is his name.

(14:38):
Outside of that, what do youeven be remotely entertaining?
It's just that name.
So if this might become a storylater on down the line, but
Right now it's just amusementnow, if you'd like.
You know, no knicka to the next.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
I already see the headlines.
You already know the nextselect.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
This nigga.
Oh no, couldn't get my bad, mybad, my bad, getting connected.
You know how it go.
We can't help but to not findhilarious.
This needs kind of things andit's funny it is.
You can't help it.
But I mean, what power to man.
That's your name.
Keep with it.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Speaking of Jews and speaking of funny.
Ain't your name Jeff Rose?
It's a lot.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Rosa.
What is road, was Rosa mean?
Well, what does they allow me?
So, of the Of the rose look atthat.
Nobody clowning your name, jeffof the rose.
I might say that shit.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
That's just a romantic poetic name, bro.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Sounds of shit, pimp, sex shit.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
There's no controversy behind the road,
concrete that came from the rosethat grew from concrete, that's
just that ain't racist, that'snot race.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
That's just sounds to name some pimp.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Have what you named Jeff of the rose like really
yeah bitch Yo what you knowabout these Jews coming out the
sewers, bro, in New York City,are they Ninja Turtles?
The memes is already guidingthem coming out the sewers
looking like Ninja Turtles ateenage mutant ninjas Jews is
what they call in them.
But why would he build a tunnelin the first place?
The headline reads Secrettunnel, an NYC synagogue leads

(16:14):
to brawl between police andworshipers.
A group of Hasidic Jewishworshipers were arrested amid a
dispute Over a secret tunnelbuilt beneath the historic
Brooklyn synagogue.
Of course it was BrooklynSetting off a brawl between
police and those who tried todefend the makeshift passageway.
And I saw some video they got.
They got like Police.
Was that she called police cam?

(16:35):
What's the shit that they haveon body cam?
Yeah, they got body cam footageand they got people recording.
You see motherfuckers crawlingout the floors and coming out
the fucking woodworks and outthe walls and shit.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
It's funny shit, but I'm trying to figure out.
Why were they doing that in thefirst place?
Oh no, like this one, like anescape route or something, sit
like I don't.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
I guess they're probably waiting for the
apocalypse or something.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, but it wasn't far as next door.
Like the pockets coming on,blow up all of this shit, not
just this, right here.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
And like I don't even think they still know why they
just did.
I mean, the passageway has isbelieved to have started in the
basement of an empty apartmentbuilding behind the headquarters
, snaking under a series ofoffices and lecture halls before
eventually connecting to thesynagogue.
Like I wonder how long it tookthem to make this shit a very
very long time.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
I Mean the problem is with New York's fucking
building code.
They ain't coming to check,like yeah, oh no, they said.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
They said the tunnel project began late last year as
a way to connect the synagoguewith the whole empty space
behind it.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Okay, so they built a fucking tunnel when it could
just built like a door, likewhen it yeah, I don't know a
door with a suffice like.
That's like if you, if you wantto go to your garage instead
like walking there, you build abridge, you don't have to do
that.
Just go to fuck out your backdoor and walk to the garage.
You don't have to Do this othershit.

(18:02):
That makes no sense to me.
So when they go ahead and dothat, I'm like why y'all
building the tunnel?
Like I'm guessing they own it?
Okay, cuz I'm guessing thatthey own the building, the other
building we all could justbuild some connecting it to it.
We all decided to dig out.
Oh, that would have costedmoney though.
Well, fucking and I'm not sayingJews are cheap, but alright,

(18:25):
that's what it sounded like,what I'm just saying, hey man.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
I ain't saying a man, it is a stereotype.
I ain't say it though.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
You know you don't think them digging up a fucking
hole and paying the fines feesand not gonna be expensive.
You own the other.
Do you have to own other shit?
I don't know the build up andwe go ahead and dig some shit
like that and I feel real, realfucked up around Jews trying to
bite back like no, theunderground railroad from the
brothers.
We came up with that.
We know how to shit go baby.
Y'all could.
Y'all could have called usbecause you're how to break all
this shit down.
Because it got it HarrietTubman manual, like look at him

(18:53):
and historically you gotta havea shit going north, because
that's how we got the fuck upout of here.
Y'all got some other shit goingon here, so I know how to do
that, but it's going to dighimself a hole, not a cops is
mad.
I didn't go fill a bitch upwith concrete with a program.
Have them pay for they're gonnafind the fuck out of them.
And I and I had to build afucking door and it doesn't like
like you basically gonna befine, like thousands of dollars

(19:14):
or a pure laziness.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
They wanted to move discreetly out here to 2024,
starting off with wild.
Ain't want to be seen in thestreets to go study.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
I don't.
I never snuck in the study hall.
I walked in the fucking library.
I walk in the front door like IDidn't want to take a secret
passage to library.
You needed me to see to go inthere, grab my books, like
you're going there, you know, tostudy your religion.
So you really need like apassage for this shit.
That shit is it me.
I saw people just do shit forthe stupidest reason, like I
just want to know whose idea.

(19:45):
It was.
Like some rabbi, but it had.
It couldn't been one roguerabbi.
It had to be like a cabal, likea set of them, and like you
know what.
We got an idea.
I'm 78 years old.
I'm tired of walking around thecorner to get to the front door
.
How about?

Speaker 2 (20:01):
I wonder what that conversation was like exactly.
Hey guy, hey, I have an idea.
You remember that undergroundrailroad that thing we, you know
.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
No, the color, the color you remember that, harriet
.
Tubman story the color ladywith the people, the north, yeah
, the freedom, the North star.
Now what if we did that our way, right here in Brooklyn and
somebody like yes, yes, yes, no,my think, how did you?

(20:30):
okay.
So basically you had to work atnight to get all that concrete
and dirt out of there.
You had to.
You could have did it duringthe day, because someone gonna
notice somebody with a fuckingwheelbarrow full of dirt and
concrete From a hole that you'vebeen digging for months.
My whole thing is that wherethe fuck we're gonna and like,
and how did you get the guidancelike did did they have like an

(20:51):
engineer or Some shit like that?
Cuz I be having trouble likelike cutting my own grass street
, so I don't know how to dug atunnel like perfectly and move
around offices and shit likethat.
That is amazing to me.
I don't know if this evenpossible.
No, this floor concrete.
I can't dig this shit.
I don't know why I want to diga hole there, but I don't know
this.
That's a wild fucking story andlike it's one of stories.

(21:11):
It's like pointless.
Like why would you do this inthe first place?
But you already did it like yes, you gotta kind of see how to
follow.
Going be, I don't know, man,kids, you can dig like like like
puddles and stuff and buildsnowmen.
Unless you have an engineeringdegree.
Don't try to build like atunnel from like your room, to
like the living room or thebathroom.

(21:32):
I know it might seem likeefficient and cute, cuz you
don't want to walk around.
Anything but lengthwise is kindof like.
The same distance, as a matterof fact, is longer because you
got to go down and across.
You can make it just go, likeyou know, across but make your
life easier.
But it's fine though.
More power to him, but Imanless.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Let's keep it moving with this 2024 shenanigans.
One of the biggest storiesright now on the internet is the
cat Williams.
Sit down with a Shannon sharp.
He's blasting everybody right.
He's going at cat Williams,which he's historically he's
done.
He goes at Cedric theentertainer.

(22:11):
He goes at Harvey what's hisname?
Steve Harvey, among others, andI personally think that he
might have ended a Cedric theentertainer's career by pointing
out the fact that he has, inhis career for like the last 30
years, he's been stealingpeople's jokes.

(22:33):
And now we have the luxury ofthe internet and people have
been putting it out there.
They, you know, they'reshowcasing the jokes that he's
stolen from other people,including Cat Williams himself,
a joke that he almost didverbatim.
You know I'm saying Likepeople's jokes that he's done,
that they have done on TV or onTV shows, on stand-up shows that

(22:53):
have been televised, and he'sdone them on his own Kings of
Comedy or his own shows, mmm.
But Cat Williams is hilarious.
He's controversial as hell.
He talks about this Illuminatishit which everybody does, how
he ain't wearing no dress.
He can't be bought.
I'm tired of that dress shitthough.

(23:13):
He said Epstein, didn't he sayEpstein offered a perform for
Layshow on him an Executive.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
I don't know if it was Epstein.
Yeah no, that's weird.
Like I want you to be, I wantyou to be in this movie and I'll
suck your dick.
Like it's a like it's a cherryon top.
Usually it's the other wayaround.
Like to get a favor, you got todo a favor.
Like not only am I getting thismove rule, I'm gonna blow you
like this.
It seems weird.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Like.
But do you not think shit likethat goes on in Hollywood.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Probably do I care now Because, like, all right, so
like we're going back to thedressing real quick.
He's.
He's saying that for for blackmen to be successful in
Hollywood, they have to wear adress to be accepted by the
white community.
So and so, but I guess, andit's not say white people,
that's dismissive, let's justsay by the Hollywood elites.
Let's coat it that way.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Eddie Murray he's one of the only ones that I have.
Him and Chappelle, I think, arethe only two that I can think
of that haven't worn a dress onein any movie or any one
successful one, but financiallyone successful one isn't.
I mean I wouldn't go that far.
I think I would have some money.
He doesn't have Kevin Hartmoney.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Do you think Kevin Hart got Kevin Hart money
because Kevin Hart decided towear a dress?
No, you know why Kevin Hart gotKevin Hart money.
Because he's the hardest workingcomedian right now, and holly
that and also like the, the rolefor a loud little obnoxious
Black man.
Wallow one's cat turned down.
He took Like could he have beennext to the rock in that CIA

(24:46):
movie, shit.
Yeah, there's a lot of rolesthat Kevin did that cat probably
could have did, probably made afunnier, but he took those
roles cuz cat didn't, didn'twant to do it, and I guess you
can, you know, say it's greatfor the sense of integrity and
and, oh God, it's gonna lead toa digression to meet cats
funnier than Kevin Hart, likecats funnier than there, all the

(25:07):
people that he was going upagainst, that he was talking
shit about.
To me, cat Williams is funnybecause cats, a comedian's
comedian like cat is at his bestas a stage comedian, like as a
comedian standing up in front ofpeople is where he shines
brightest, because he's veryhe's extremely good at that.
He's not.
He's actually a pretty goodactor from the rules that he's
done.
Yeah, I Don't know.

(25:28):
Like I was thinking about thisat work.
Like the dress thing bothers mebecause I'm like, if you're
saying that, then are you sayingthat the entire Wayne's family
has sold this old to Hollywood?
Yes, that's what he's saying andthey've all won a dress.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
All one address every last one of them.
So that's all it takes.
Martin on war address multipletimes.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
If you could be the co-CEO of your company, just had
to wear a dress one time wouldyou to Meet the CEO of my come
up new to be the co-CEO of yourcompany auto, and I have to wear
a dress anytime I what's thepurpose of me wearing no dress,
though?

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Oh, we're doing a play or something in front of
the company.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
It's a.
It's a a bonding thing.
It's a it's you know what?
It is the company that thatAbonding hold on.
It's a company function andthey have it like a little skit
thing.
So they want people to bewhatever silly you answer for
just like put on a dress, youimpressed the guy like that took
balls and that took moxie.
I think I'm gonna groom you tobe my right-hand man as Nonsense

(26:35):
of CEO, not no other shit, yeah.
I know the word I know you're,I'm going to develop you into
being an Essential part of thiscompany by teaching you
everything that goes along withit, by being, and hopefully
becoming, my second in command.
Let's put it that way.
Since you don't want to putgrooming, since everyone's so
fucking weird of dogs getgroomed Okay, stop with the

(26:57):
fucking word.
But if that's situation, and itsays all of this and it could
lead to you being literally the,the chair below the chair, do
you do it?

Speaker 2 (27:08):
After furthering discussing it with my family,
and after convincing myself thatI'm not selling my soul by
doing this, I'm probably doingit, ain't no problem me.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Fuck that, no problem , you fuck out of here.
We got the goddamn cabal, youknow, fucking the luminati nigga
.
This is a check.
You get all man.
You wore a dress, but yourfamilies in poverty.
Minds isn't for one simpledecision.
Now, if it required, youwearing a dress, not doing no
other shit, me, some soulselling motherfuckers not

(27:41):
selling your soul.
It's doing one thing for thesacrifice of the others, because
if it was just you you probablywouldn't think about it.
But like I can do this and Ican really make some real
changes in the world.
Real changes with my familymake a Some a difference, a real
functional difference, and Idon't have to do anything sexual
or promiscuous or dangerous orwhatever.

(28:03):
I just had to go and be sillyfor about four minutes in wear a
dress, say a couple words andcall it a day.
So you're saying there are somelegs to this, though that they
do make black men wear dressesand rolls, for whatever reason
literally his most famous movie,which made him the most money

(28:24):
and it's amazing and as talentedas a comedian that he might be.
Robin Williams wore dressingMrs Doubtfire.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yes, all the whites do it too.
Yeah, john Travolta done, didit of a Patrick Swayzee.
They all do that shit.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Okay, john Leguizamo did John Leguizamo.
Westie Snipes, yep.
Patrick Swayzee yeah, but I'mlike Will Smith will Smith did
it Chris Tucker.
But I think they're trying tothink that it's an idea of like
you're associating Martin did.

(29:00):
But I think they're trying tosay, like, as a black Chris rock
, you shouldn't wear a dressbecause of, like, the whole
masculinity thing, like I don'tthink it dressed has anything to
do with masculinity, it's.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
It's because of the funny thing Jamie Foxx wore when
he did his character when hedid wonder, yeah, wanda, that's
the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Like you trying to make this an illuminati thing,
I'm like it's just one of thosethings.
I, it's just one of them thingsthat about people that people
find funny.
Let's say, chris Rock did,chris Frawley did, adam Sandler
did they do these things.
But, like I said, but it's onlywhen it comes to black.

(29:36):
I'm like if you're doing this,that means you're so, just so.
Ain't none said a soul shitabout what I'm doing.
Like funny Tends to meansometimes you have to take these
extremely calculated risk andit's something funny about
seeing a man in a dress, becauseseeing a woman dressed in a
suit isn't as funny as seeing aman in a dress.

(29:58):
I don't know why.
It's just something about ourbrains.
It just makes it hilarious,especially when the person's
funny.
But to make a big deal outabout that, like so you're
trying to say like I, I have myintegrity and I, and that's the
whole thing.
You can't say you know, theysold the soul to the devil and
it made themselves reallysuccessful Because it wore a
dress.
When you, in the same interview, say you know, you're the one
of the richest men alive and Ididn't wear a dress.

(30:21):
So you're trying to sayintegrity wins out, but, like
you know, you're not showing methe bank.
But, brother, I get what you'resaying, but I Need to see
receipts if you're gonna saythings like that.
If you're gonna talk that moneyshit, I need to see said money.
I need to see your houses, yourcars or whatever these signs of
wealth.
Now you might be rich in loveand not rich in Finance than
shit mean you even.
But if you can talk about thepeople that's been successful

(30:42):
before you, especially a guylike Kevin Hart we had the
chance to have his career, justchosen to do it.
He said I'm not wearing afucking dress.
I mean, he wore the shit once.
He did a lot of things that hedidn't have to wear a goddamn
dress.
So and I think about that yousaid about a Such an entertainer
like I, mean, what kind ofcareer do you really have,
popping like that?
If we've been really honest,like right now, the only King

(31:04):
has said you're going to dressnow.
I don't think so.
He's dressed.
He's dressed up an old man,eddie, in barbershop.
They were weird dress.
I don't think so.
You make a really ugly woman.
But the only one of them that'sbeen successful.
Me got arrested.
So Bernie Mac but it reallybeen Steve Harvard, but he ain't
really been doing comedy shit.
He's been getting this familyfew money and shit.

(31:24):
I would too, yeah, slider moneyin them game shows.
Well, I mean, you watch thewhole interview, right?
Yeah, what did you?

Speaker 2 (31:31):
take from it that shit was hilarious.
It was just cat being cat.
You know the promise.
He had Shannon sharp on theedge of his sea like yo chill
man.
I got to interview some ofthese people bro.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
The thing that I wonder is like where does all
right Cuz?
This is like.
My theory is that the reasonwhy it went so viral so fast?
Because it was January.
Nothing's popping in January,nothing's going on.
I Wanted people still feel thesame way about him in June, like
, are you're still gonna beraising the banner like we got
it?
Protect cat Williams at allcosts.

(32:07):
Yo shut, oh, please, shut thefuck up with that.
Always trying to protect otherpeople at all costs.
Protect this for protectyourself, protect your family.
Fuck them celebrities.
Oh my god cat, we're down hereto we got to protect, but you
know how they do.
Don't worry about him if theywant to have some shit to happen
to cat cuz they're tellingtruth.
They'd had to chat like a longtime ago.

(32:27):
You need to worry about you.
You need to make sure toprotect yourself, to protect
your family.
Not honest?
These Celebrities, shit, don'teven give a fuck about you or
never thought about you, justwant you to buy tickets today,
shit.
So all you got to worry about,and the thing with cat is that
it's.
It was entertaining, it wasenlightening.
It was different to see him beso comfortably well spoken about

(32:49):
these things and say thingsfearlessly.
But I'm like it's January, wegonna see how that shit lasts.
And when it get cold and wetalk about the snow, what does
summertime act like?
Where you want to go, I Don'tknow.
But the truth of the matter isit's an entertaining story right
now, but Give it to weeks.
We were talking about some newshit shit soup bowl.
In a couple weeks we about betalking about us.

(33:10):
Yeah, we're gonna go a fuckabout cat.
That's just the way these newcycles go.
Sorry to tell you that, dog,but is what it is.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Begin of the Super Bowl.
For the first time in history,a Football, a playoff game, an
NFL playoff game is not gonna befree, because this week Peacock
is gonna be showing one of thegames they paid the NFL.
They paid the NFL six milliondollars, that's three million

(33:37):
dollars per team To air one game.
And people are an outrage.
They're like shit.
We got to download this fuckingapp.
Now we got to pay asubscription.
I mean you can download it, getthe free trial and then cancel,
I guess.
But this is the future of nowtelevision.
Before you know it, all thesegames are gonna be on Netflix,
hulu, peacock, amazon, apple TV.

(33:57):
You know what I mean?
And people are gonna have topay for these shits.
Do you have a?

Speaker 3 (34:02):
40 pound television.
No, okay, you don't have a 40pound television, gotcha, these
shits are lightweight now.
But you got a smart TV.
Yeah right, smart TV a littlebit, all apps and everything
else like that yeah, that'sreally the only way you can
really watch it.
We just plug your TV by itself.
You couldn't get a fuckingreception.
It's not like it was before.
When you do it, have like alittle antenna, get some
reception, shit like that.
We don't live in that time nomore, and I understand y'all

(34:24):
have gotten so comfortablewatching this shit on Regular TV
and calling it a day.
I get it and I.
You know you should be mad,especially since you had the
whole regular season on.
You know your local stationdown.
Playoff time comes and if I'llput any foot down like you don't
watch what the fuck you tellyou to watch.
Okay, but it's.
It's one fucking game, onefucking week.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
It's not the point though, bro.
The countries and shamblesright now.
A lot of people can't affordthis shit, man.
They can't afford all thesesubscriptions.
Hold up, hold up I'm peoplecan't even afford cable, no more
.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
If you bugging out about a football game right, and
you can't afford the 599 feet,you got bigger problems than
that, my fuck.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
I'm sure it's more than that.
I think it's more than that.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Oh, go ahead, keep talking about it.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
I think peacock is like ten.
Now I got peacock.
I Don't even know I got allthem shit.
I got Netflix.
I don't even know how muchthese shits are, bro, I just
have them.
I'm just get taken out of mybank account.
I don't even notice that shit.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Look at that, the first thing when I Google.
I was at a time where peacockthe word follow afterward free
trial.
Everybody like, look, I'm Igonna peacock, let's see.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
So they got they different little tier levels
peacock, peacock premium, butpeacock will pay for this shit,
even if because you know this isgonna be full of advertisements
and commercials this shit.
Peacock premium so even ifpeople, even if people subscribe
and then cancel, they stillgonna make all the advertisement
money, peacock premium 599.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Peacock premium.
What's the basic peacock Pp.
Peacock premium plus is peacockpremium without any ads premium
.
Okay, this has ass.
It's six dollars.
If you beefing about sixdollars you shouldn't worry
about.
You know a football game shewere.
By getting your whole fuckinglife together, I Think I got at
least 25 hours in my pocket andunderstand that shit with pride.
But if I really want to watchthis game, I can.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
And I'm not talking about young people, bro.
I'm talking about the olderpeople, 60, 70, 80 year olds.
You know, they havehistorically their whole lives
been watching this shit for freeon channel 5, channel NBC, abc,
whatever the fuck.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Here's the problem you know retired.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
They're trying to just make ends meet with their
little retirement money and justlive chilling comfortably.
They're not trying to subscribeto no fucking streaming
services.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
NFL and them.
Don't give a fuck about them,because the only thing that
matters so many people don'teven know how to operate these
shit.
To be honest with you and theNFL does not care.
You know why?
Because that's not they targetaudience and they're not what
who marketers are advertisingtowards.
You don't see commercials forpeople that are 60 70 years old.
We know y'all watch the gamebut y'all don't buy shit.
That's the whole reason we havecommercials for people to buy
shit.
So the people that's theyounger crowd that they want to

(36:57):
capture they have all thesestreaming shits and we want to
watch it.
They're going to watch it andthey can be hit with
advertisement things that theytell them that they should buy
and they should have.
And that's going to go on those60 70 years old.
Here's the difference.
You're 20 and 30 year olds thatare complaining about it are
sending an email to NBC.
Hmm, you're 16 70 year oldsthat are complaining about it.

(37:17):
Are writing a letter andgetting a stamp and mailing it
to NBC in New York Actuallyspending money.
They're asking a son couldGoogle a phone number for NBC.
I want to call them no, no, no,no, no, no, no, no, no.
That's why they're not thetarget audience.
They don't care.
Y'all can get bent out of shapeabout it, but guess what bars
will pay that six dollarsimmediately for that, even if

(37:38):
it's just for one game, as amatter of fact, they'll pay the
one with no commercials.
That's $12.
You know why?
Could you?
When you go to bar, a beer is$8.
One person damn near covers it.
It's not hurting nobody.
That's facts, capitalism at itsfinest, people bitching about.
It's not hurting none of y'all,not hurting a single soul,
because you're gonna findsomewhere to watch it and you're
not gonna watch it in peace.

(37:59):
What it means?
That you're not gonna watch itfree.
You're gonna pay something,you're gonna buy food or you can
buy yourself a drink, somethingelse like that.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
You bring up a good point, cuz I know people like
that that won't order like afight or whatever UFC fight
coming on is just 50, 60, 70, 80, even to $100, I've seen them.
But they'll go like you said,they'll go to the bar to watch
it and you're gonna spend thaton food and beer and shit.
You're gonna spend it onsomething One way and they'll
spend $100 on beer and food,correct, and sit there at the

(38:27):
bar for a few hours and watchthe shit.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
So I said, this complaint is pointless.
Like I said, you're gonnacomplain about it.
But if they do this, what'sthey're gonna do nonetheless?
And they get massive numbers,it's only gonna wanna make them
do it more.
If you all really don't wantthem to do this, don't watch the
fucking game.
No, not a soul.
Don't sign up for it, don't doanything.
Don't watch the game, Don't doit.

(38:50):
But you can't help yourselfbecause you need some shit to do
.
So what you're gonna do it'slike I'm gonna do the free trial
, I'm gonna pay for it, whatever.
Fine, here's my money to watchthe game.
And they're gonna see all ofthose numbers spike up.
When it went from three millionpeople watching the football
game on the channel to 10million people watching the
football game on the channel,then they're gonna put all of

(39:10):
them on there because they knowthat you will do anything to
watch that game, so you will payfor it.
Go that route.
So to sit here and complainabout it, you have two options
Either watch the game and payfor it or don't shut the fuck up
.
One way or another is gonnahappen, because next week
they're not doing it, they'rejust doing it this week.
Then it says it's gonna be allplayoffs, it said this week, and
tomorrow is Sunday.
The NFC games are gonna be onyour regularly local schedule

(39:31):
program.
You can wait to watch those.
If you're making a big ass dealabout this, don't watch.
But if you pay, you know it'sgonna come.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yo, and finally, real quick, let's touch on this
little Epstein list.
Now, the list has not actuallycome out like the client list or
the flight logs, right, butwhat they did do is release a
bunch of names that werementioned in subpoenas and
dispositions.
You know what I mean.
And witnesses mentioned certainpeople, and there was all types

(40:02):
of government officials,celebrities, actors, actresses,
even politicians.
I saw David Copperfield's nameon that shit, bro.
I grew up watching DavidCopperfield disappear in shit.
His name was on there.
They say he was there havingdinner with somebody at
Epstein's house.
I was like, ah, now disclaimer,the names that have been

(40:23):
released so far that werementioned in these papers.
They haven't been accused ofany wrongdoing yet.
So we got a prefix by sayingthat Doesn't mean they are
guilty, but that means they werethere, they were seen, they
have some type of associationwith Epstein and it's just not a
good look.
I wouldn't want my name beingassociated with this shit at all
.
Donald Trump's name of course,everybody expected his name.

(40:45):
He was mentioned.
Michael Jackson was mentionedin a deposition.
A deposition say he was thereeven though no wrongdoing was
supposedly.
Robert F Kennedy Jr wasmentioned.
Bunch of names, actors,actresses.
This is gonna tarnish a lot ofpeople's legacies.

(41:07):
We already saw Jimmy Kimmelwhile out on fucking Aaron
Rodgers because Aaron Rodgersinsinuated that Jimmy Kimmel
doesn't want this list to comeout.
But that's see, jimmy Kimmelcame on his show and started
ripping into him.
That's some white people shit.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
I'm dead ass here, because if you said some shit
about me, you got a.
Aaron, where are you now?
I'm in California.
Stay right there, be right withyou.
My next thing's smoking.
I'm gonna slap shit out of you.
Kid, you can't throw my name inthose shit.
Like that, the fuck is wrongwith you.
Like you're trying to say likeoh, it's just us joking around.
Like yo don't joke with myfucking freedom.
Like that man, that don't.
It doesn't make sense forsomeone to be like hey, man, you

(41:47):
should be working your name onthat list.
My name ain't on that list, dog, don't do that, don't?
I think we're almost doing thesame shit with this controversy
sounding like I'm surrounded anddiddy and everything else.
Like that.
A whole bunch of people wasthere.
Now, years later, people wannasay something and I'm saying for
me the victim should have takeall the time in the world to

(42:10):
state whatever happened to them,whatever it happened.
But if you know, you ain't hadno parts and nothing to do with
this and you throw my name onthere, I'm fucking you up Like
I'm not.
There's no hesitation, I'm notbecause you're messing with
someone's reputation and eventhough we talking about money
and everything else before.
The only thing more importantin money is reputation.

(42:30):
You can't change that shit.
If people think and know of youand have been around you, and
when you're not in theirpresence, they still speak of
you as a good person, that'swhat reputation is that your
name and your word carry onbeyond, when you're not even in
their presence.
To put me involved in someonewho's a known sex trafficker,

(42:51):
who's involved in underage girls, I think I'm going to be in
some kind of list.
It's ridiculous.
Like what, if?
Like, if you're going to makethe joke, why don't you make the
joke about yourself?
Why don't you be like well, Ihope my name no pop up on there.
Why don't you do that?
Like?
Why don't you do Jimmy?
Then?
Like, because Jimmy made itclear I got nothing to do with
this shit you still keptwondering about.
But you're saying this joke tomake the joke about yourself.

(43:12):
Maybe, like they ain't going tofind my little name on there.
I erased it or something stupidlike that.
But a kid about you knowsomeone's reputation like that,
that shit ain't funny.
And it's a whole last list anda whole last problem that got
nothing to do with me.
You want that list.
Yeah, exactly, I don't knowthat, nigga neither.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
I ain't part of the world's elites yet.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
You might be the only Jeffrey I know.
I gotta think about that shit.
You just might be.
I got my look at my friendslist.
I know you're like man, checkmy phone.
You, my fucking Jeffsy.
You might be the only nigga Iknow.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
You probably got some Jeffs in there.
Hold up, bro, some oldcoworkers or some shit.
Ain't no Jeffery Epstein'sthough.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
I'm going to the Jays as we speak.
Hold on to see any Jays, to seeJeffery, jeffery.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Nope.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
I got the Jackie Jamar, james Jarell, jason
Javier.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Oh listen, got a Spanish brother.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Jesus, a couple of Johns and Jordan Julien, Julien.
Nope, you don't know, Jeff, Iknow.
See.
Welcome to the club, buddy.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yo, but that's our episode, first episode of the
year.
Thank you for tuning in.
2024 is going to be a big year.
I mean it's already starting.
Man, crazy and man, hectic man,wild and controversial out here
.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
What else is happening this year?
I know we're only three weeksin, but any of us is happening.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
I don't know man.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Can I start keeping track of this shit of, like you
know, the Negro year in review?
So January is off the books.
We got the cat shit, so we gotto see what's been happening in.
February.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
All right, if you want to become a culture crew
member, please sign up to ourPatreon.
That'll really go a long way tohelping the page.
Check out our YouTube page atthe Culture 2020.
Go check out the descriptionsand the show notes.
There's a lot of links and allour information, all our links,
is in there.
Man, we appreciate you all fortuning in.
I'm Jeff, he's Ant.

(44:54):
Hey, the Culture peace.