June 10, 2024 • 43 mins
Can commercial success ever truly reflect artistic quality? We tackle this burning question as The Culture's Jeff, along with Lindsey from ReeVolt Records, analyze Apple Music's Top 100 Best Albums of All Time. We passionately scrutinize the ranking of "The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill" at number one, comparing it to legendary albums like Michael Jackson's "Thriller." We'll break down the top ten, featuring music icons such as Beyoncé, Nirvana, Amy Winehouse, Kendrick Lamar, Stevie Wonder, Frank Ocean, Prince, and The Beatles, and challenge the criteria behind these rankings. Expect a heated debate on whether sales figures should outweigh artistic brilliance.
Shifting gears, we delve into the complex issue of racial slurs and generational divides in hip-hop, sparked by Method Man's recent decision to step back from Hot 97's Summer Jam. This conversation explores the contrasting preferences of older and younger Hip-Hop fans and how these differences shape the lineups at major events. Lindsey and Jeff reflect on the varying reactions at concerts that celebrate Hip-Hop's roots versus those focusing on contemporary mainstream artists, discussing the importance of understanding the genre's rich history as we try to understand why the younger generation refuses to acknowledge o respect the past.
Finally, we take a nostalgic journey through how music consumption has evolved from the pre-digital era to today's streaming dominance. Remember the struggle of saving up for CDs or borrowing albums from friends? We share personal anecdotes about those days and consider the impact of easy access provided by platforms like Apple Music and Spotify. Wrapping up, we celebrate the influence of Hip-Hop pioneers on modern artists and give a heartfelt shoutout to our contributors and supporters, ensuring our listeners feel connected to our vibrant community. Join us for a thought-provoking episode that bridges the gap between Hip-Hop generations and honors the legacy of the culture's trailblazers. #summerjam #methodman #laurynhill #hiphopculture
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Jeff (00:00):
Yo, yo, yo, yo yo.
Thank you for tuning in toanother episode of the Culture.
This is episode 155.
As you can see, I'm your boy,jeff.
I am not here with my main man,ant.
We got another special guesttoday filling in.
He is a longtime listener andsupporter of the Culture.
He is Lindsey of Revolt Records.
(00:22):
Thank you for joining me today,man.
What's going?
Lindsey (00:26):
on buddy.
Introduce yourself to the folks, bro.
My name's Lindsay, one of theco-owners and founders of Revolt
Records, little independentrecord label based out of Rhode
Island.
We got artists and acts fromthe UK, Mississippi, Rhode
Island.
We've worked with some peopledown in Maryland, North Carolina
(00:48):
, Just kind of doing that,making as much music as we can
with some of the most talentedartists we can find.
Jeff (00:56):
As he casually handles his drug paraphernalia.
Lindsey (01:02):
It was a rough night.
I'm still recovering.
Jeff (01:04):
Oh shit, all right, man, man, let's get right into it,
man, because, as you've known ifyou've been hearing the last
few episodes, I try to get rightinto it.
I try not to make long episodesanymore, because I've learned
that this generation's attentionspan is fucking minuscule as
fuck.
I try to keep episodes no morethan 30 minutes.
So all right, let's get rightinto some of these topics.
(01:24):
I got a lot of things going ontoday I want to discuss.
Uh, met the man, something hesaid.
I do have a new ghetto word ofthe week.
All right, but first, is thatracist?
(01:45):
No, apple music recentlyreleased their top 100 best
albums of all time, correct,yeah?
They did all right, I'm not forbefore.
Before we get into it, I'm notgoing to pretend that apple
music is the end, all be all.
You know what I mean.
And music authority, but theyare respected conglomerate right
(02:06):
.
Yeah, it was better than rollingstone right and they put out
the 100 album, not hip-hopalbums, albums in general, of
all genres, yep.
And they put miss lauren hill,the miseducation of lauren hill,
as their number one.
And here we have a picture ofher and ebro from hot 97 as
they're giving her the you know,telling her the news that her
(02:30):
album was chose number one.
And of course you see thebacklash.
And aunt knows this.
You probably know this fromhearing the show.
Like you know how I feel aboutlauren hill, I know I have
miseducation in my top five ofhip-hop albums hip-hop albums of
all time and she's not evennumber one.
(02:51):
She's in my top five but she'snot even number one in that
genre.
So it's safe to say that Iwouldn't even put her number one
of all time in any genre.
I agree, and we'll get into thecriterias.
We're going to get into thecriterias soon.
But they had Thriller at number2.
(03:11):
Let's look up the whole listhere.
I'm not going to go through thewhole 100, but we could do at
least the top 10.
We could dissect the top 10.
At least this is the list.
They had Beyonce at 10.
Lindsey (03:24):
They had Nirvana at list they had beyonce at 10,
they had nirvana at nine.
Jeff (03:27):
They had amy winehouse.
Rest in peace.
At eight.
Kendrick lamar good kid madcity at seven.
Stevie wonder at six.
Frank ocean five.
Prince purple, rain for thebeatles.
Three, michael jackson thriller, which would be my all-time
number one of any genre.
They have him at two and laurenhill at number one.
(03:48):
So give me your take on thisshit, man.
The people are losing theirshit online and I tell people
like, look man, these listsdon't mean anything.
If you've gone on my youtubepage, I got all types of lists
and a lot of people are like, oh, what the fuck is this?
It gets people talking, right?
That's that's what these listsare.
People love lists.
Top 10 lists people love them.
I love lists.
I always do lists on anythingtop five rappers, top this, top
(04:11):
players, whatever.
It's just a conversationstarter.
They don't mean shit.
This is not the definitive listof anything.
They just got a bunch of peoplein a room.
They all had their opinion,they all followed whatever
criteria they wanted to followand this is what they came up
with and it gets people talkingand for weeks people were
talking about this fucking shitand you know it feels like they
(04:32):
made the list based off of youknow what was the biggest album,
maybe not what was necessarilythe best album.
A lot of those albums in therewere fucking huge in their time,
yeah, but I wouldn't even saythat Miseducation was bigger
than any of those other albumseither.
Lindsey (04:51):
I don't know if I'd go that far, but Miseducation was
fucking huge.
Blonde was fucking huge.
Abbey Road was fucking huge.
In my opinion, there's onlymaybe two or three albums in
that list that belong there interms of quality.
Everything else just feels likethis was like one of the
biggest moments of its time, ofits era, and so they put it up
(05:12):
there for that.
But fucking lemonade, no,absolutely not, absolutely not.
Blonde, absolutely not.
Abbey road, absolutely fuckingnot.
Winehouse am Amy Winehouse?
Amy Winehouse?
Absolutely not.
Like, if you're not puttinganything from Pink Floyd,
anything from Zeppelin, over AmyWinehouse, it's just fucking
(05:32):
ridiculous.
The Cure disintegration being,if I'm not mistaken, it was like
number 27 or number 28.
Like that's one of the mostperfect albums ever made, in my
opinion, in terms of not evengenre, just across the board.
That is an absolute perfect,fucking album.
Fucking um miles davis yeah,kind of blue, but again one of
(05:57):
the most perfect albums, in myopinion, that's ever been made.
Didn't even crack the fuckingtop 10.
Like it just seems they'regoing for what was big, what was
the most popular, what maybehad a lot of influence moving
forward.
But I mean, dude, frank oceanbeing above stevie, are you out
of your mind?
Jeff (06:15):
and I love again, I love the miseducation.
A lot of people don't evenconsider it a hip-hop album.
They think it's an r&b album.
It has a lot of singing, but itdoes have a lot of rapping, so
to me it's a hip-hop album.
I have a blend.
I have it maybe number two orthree in my top five list of
hip-hop albums.
As far as of all time albums,yo fucking thriller.
(06:35):
That's like the only album I'veever seen that has like every
song is a single.
Every song is like a number onehit single on the entire album.
Like what other albums can yousay that shit about?
Lindsey (06:47):
Yeah, but also beyond that.
I mean Thriller is filled withquality music from start to
finish.
I mean they got huge because ofhow good the songs were, not
because of, oh, marketing,promotion, how we pushed it, how
we did.
This stupid little fuckingmarketing technique Like
Thriller is based off of thequality of its fucking content,
like hands down.
(07:08):
Just because everything kind ofwent huge doesn't really change
anything, because the qualityof that album, start to finish,
is fucking impeccable.
So I got no problem with that.
It's just some of these otherones like you have no business
putting blonde above songs inthe key of life.
Again, one of the most perfectalbums ever made by an artist in
(07:28):
the past 40, 50 years.
Jeff (07:31):
So what was the criteria, you ask?
I pulled it up.
Oh shit, all right, the voters.
I don't know how many of themwere they, but they were
challenged not to vote for theirfavorites.
But this is the criteria Albumsthat represented a cultural
moment for the artist or genre.
Albums that were completethoughts, not just collections
of hit songs.
Albums that thoroughlyrepresent culture and production
(07:52):
and lyrics.
Albums that inspired ageneration to want to create
more music.
Albums that represent the bestin storytelling, musicianship,
recording and production.
And, finally, albums that aretimeless and reached far beyond
the genre categorization.
Those were supposedly thecriteria.
Lindsey (08:14):
It doesn't seem like quality is up on that list.
It does seem like it's justbasically influence what was big
, what was popular, what had themost amount of buzz and what
continued to have buzz even, youknow, decades later.
There's nothing wrong with it.
I'm just saying if we're goingfor best albums of all time, we
got to bring quality into it.
(08:35):
You have to bring in the albumas a whole.
You have to bring in what's thealbum trying to say.
How do the songs convey themessage that the album and the
overall theme is trying to, youknow, convey and get across.
And I mean there's so manyalbums out there that do that,
and at such a high level thatthey, in my opinion, belong on
(08:58):
this list over some of theseother albums.
Like I just can't believebeyonce Lemonade is in the top
10 albums ever made.
I wouldn't have put that in thetop 100.
Jeff (09:09):
This is a dumb conspiracy, but do you think Lauren paid
them to do this?
Because right after sheannounced that she's making a
new album that she'll bedropping this year.
Now I don't think she wouldhave more money.
I don't think she has moremoney than anybody on this list,
because if Beyonce wanted topay Apple Music to put her
number one, she has theresources to do that shit.
Lindsey (09:29):
I mean I'm sure people are paying to get their stuff up
higher, but I mean that really,unless you're doing like an
Apple exclusive, what the fuckdoes it matter?
Right and maybe, she is, maybeshe is.
Maybe she is, though thathasn't happened in a while, like
I can't think of the last bigartist who was like okay, I'm
(09:52):
only gonna put this out.
Jeff (09:53):
Wasn't it black star?
Didn't they do some shit likethat?
Lindsey (09:56):
yeah, they went on.
They didn't even go on dsps,they went on their own little
like streaming platform, yeah,and you could grab it like that,
but nothing's gonna beexclusive to just spotify or
just apple music.
So I don't know, maybe she paid, maybe she didn't.
Jeff (10:13):
Regardless, I don't think it fucking belongs there all
right, and I don't want to makethis out to be like oh, we're
bashing lauren, becauseeverybody knows I love.
No, I love that fucking albumman Love it, but does it deserve
to be even on the top 10 ofthis list?
Lindsey (10:27):
With some of the other albums that exist out there in
the ether over the past.
What are we?
Jeff (10:33):
rolling stones.
Rolling Stones had their top100.
And I don't even thinkMiseducation was in the top 10.
Lindsey (10:41):
I'm not mad at that.
I'm not mad if it's in the top10.
I'm not mad if it's out of thetop 10.
I just don't think it's numberone, like I just don't.
There's just so many othergreat bands and great artists
over the years that deserverecognition for the art that
they created.
Over somebody who's likeBeyonce, like oh, this is one of
(11:06):
the biggest, if not the biggest, female artists in the world
and this album was fuckingeverywhere when it came out.
That's great and the album'sgood.
I'm not shitting on Lemonade,you know for what it is.
It's a good fucking album.
It's just, man, there's so muchout there.
Like how are you going to putthat over Miles Davis?
(11:29):
How are you going to put thatover the Cure?
How are you going to put thatover Led Zeppelin?
How are you going to put thatover?
Jeff (11:35):
I was surprised I didn't see some rock albums in there.
You know what I'm saying.
Like you said, Led Zeppelin.
Lindsey (11:41):
Some of those classic rock, even Nirvana, like I love,
nevermind.
Jeff (11:45):
Well, Nirvana was on there .
Lindsey (11:46):
Yeah, nevermind is a great album.
Is it one of the greatest top10 albums ever created?
I don't think so, and KurtCobain.
Jeff (11:53):
I like their other album better.
What's the one with the nakedbaby in the cover?
Lindsey (11:56):
I like Bleach and I like In Utero.
What's the one on the list all?
Jeff (12:09):
right, cool, cool, and that was the name of the album.
I didn't even know that was thename of that shit.
Yeah, that was never mind it'sa great album.
Lindsey (12:14):
It really is, and I just it's not my favorite.
I get.
We're not going for favoriteson this, we're going for like
start to finish what I would doquality of the album, start to
finish, content message, likeall of that.
I agree.
Like, nevermind is up there fornirvana, it's just I think
nirvana has better albums thannevermind.
Plus, you didn't get any pearljam 10 uh, not on there.
(12:40):
I didn't see that up there.
Um, alice in chains dirt like.
If you're gonna go from so youknow some of those classic
grunge era albums.
I mean, if nirvana nevermind isup there, some of these other
ones belong to like.
In my opinion, 10 from pearljam is a better album than
nirvana nevermind.
That might be a hot take, Idon't know, but it's just how I
(13:02):
look at it.
Jeff (13:03):
I'm sure some people on twitter might have some shit to
say about that shit.
We'll find out.
Shout out to the barbershop.
Yo, all right, man, let's getinto this ghetto.
Ghetto, word of the week.
What do we got?
Yeah, I wish ant was here forthis.
Have you ever heard of the termjigaboo, not to be confused
with like jugaboo, because,right, they didn't like, they
(13:25):
didn't like beyonce have a songwhere you're a jugaboo, the
jugaboo, jugaboo.
This is not that.
This is jiggaboo are you a whiteracist motherfucker.
Why are you laughing at this?
So you know?
I just I know what jiggaboo is,okay, well, I didn't know that
this was a derogatory term untilI looked it up on urban
dictionary.
(13:45):
This is new to you.
This word is new to me as faras being a fucking derogatory
term.
Okay, according to urbandictionary, it is a black or
african-american person who thefuck knew.
I've never heard somebody referto nobody as a yo, you fucking
jigaboo.
I mean, I never heard that shitand the senses that they used
was yo.
The other night I went toharlem and saw jigaboos.
Lindsey (14:07):
God damn, that sounds racist as fuck, holy shit yeah,
I mean I can't believe we'rehaving is that racist?
For a racial slur derogatoryterm?
Jeff (14:18):
that's this is, this is an this is a ghetto word of the
week oh, my bad, that's right Iguess it could turn into an is
that racist moment?
Lindsey (14:25):
I don't think we need to question that.
It's definitely racist.
It's always been racist.
Jeff (14:31):
So I shouldn't even use the word jigaboo.
Lindsey (14:33):
I would not personally.
Is it as bad as the N word?
Oh, I don't know if anything interms of derogatory terms for
black people is as bad as the Nword, but I mean, that's fucking
up there.
That's a fucked up word.
It's like.
Jeff (14:53):
I'm moving on because All right.
Lindsey (14:56):
I'm curious where it comes from, cause everything has
a base, everything has like astarting point Like where the
fuck does that come from?
Does it come?
Jeff (15:03):
from gigolo.
Lindsey (15:11):
I don't know.
I mean mean, how can you turnthe word gigolo into something
racist?
I don't know.
We're gonna have to look upthat words.
Uh, what is it etymology?
What's the word I'm looking for?
Jeff (15:16):
we gotta look that up all right, let me move on man so hot
97 recently had their yearlysummer jam concert.
Right, met the man and red manperform like they always do.
So Hot 97 recently had theiryearly Summer Jam concert, right
, mm Method man and Redmanperform like they always do, yup
, like they always start theshit off high intensity, right,
(15:37):
yes, sir, jumping off the stagedoing all types of wild shit.
I posted up the XXL Magazinecover there where Method man
says he's not coming back toperform at Summer Jam.
His direct quote was neveragain.
At this point, the generationgap is just too wide for me,
(15:59):
no-transcript.
And look at the lineup.
Look at the fucking lineup thatthey have Doja Cat, fucking
Offset, who decided to comeoutside.
Sexy Red, who's now involved inlike WWE and shit.
She doesn't know what she wantsto do.
Method man and Red man.
Sleepy Hollow, devito T-Grizzly41.
(16:23):
So who stands out?
Who doesn't belong on this list?
Yeah, it's like one of thesethings.
It's not like the others.
Who is not like Method man andRed man?
Right?
So that's the lineup.
Let me pull up his direct yeah,his direct quote.
Look at his direct quote righthere.
Hold on, I got it.
(16:44):
He goes.
It's not our crowd at all.
Thanks again, new york and thewhole tri-state area showed up
for the event, plus p and e, bro.
I got love for you guysreferring to peter rosenberg and
ebro from high 97, but neveragain.
At this point the generationgap is just too wide for me.
I can imagine that the fansprobably half of these
(17:06):
motherfucking kids didn't evenknow who these guys were right
no, probably just a name.
Only if you tried to, you knowname five method man songs named
five red man songs and name onethey probably know met the man
from power, if they even watchthat and they don't know red man
at all.
Lindsey (17:23):
Yeah, that's a shame you.
Jeff (17:25):
And if they starting off the show, people probably just
arriving, they probably ain'tknow what was going on.
Nobody was probably cheering.
I went to the Hip Hop 50 atYankee Stadium last year to
celebrate 50 years of hip hopand Method man came out and
everybody went fucking bonkers,right.
Obviously girls went bonkers,you know what I'm saying.
He comes out in a tank top orhe takes his shirt off or
whatever and everybody's goingcrazy.
(17:46):
But you know, matt the man,because there was, realistically
, 50 years of hip-hop, themajority of people in there were
over 30, correct, you knowright.
So I also saw it in both, bothways, like I.
Because when naz came out forthe hip-hop 50 and he started
doing songs from his later, fromhis like his last couple albums
, including a song that he didwith lauren hill, which I love,
(18:07):
and I was singing the lyrics tothe shit, I looked around and
nobody even knew the fuckingsong.
They didn't even know that waslauren.
When she came out I had dudesasking me who's that?
I'm like that's lauren hill,bro, and I'm singing the lyrics
and I was the only one.
In the whole yankee stadiumit's 40, 50 000 people there I
was the only one that knew thesong, because that's from naz's
like latest album.
Right, the people are youtalking about the one where she
(18:29):
spit yeah, yeah, okay, she had ahot ass verse on that shit, she
did she did that's how nazbrought her out.
He brought her out to that songthat they did.
Nobody knew the fucking songbut me.
And then she had to tell the djlike yo, let's cut this shit.
And then they played the shitthat everybody knows.
Lindsey (18:45):
Yeah, they went to the world, they went to that and
that shit bothered me.
Jeff (18:48):
I was like damn so these motherfuckers, these old heads,
only know the old shit.
You know what I mean.
They don't know the new shit.
But then if you go to a youngconcert with you know the Summer
Jam, those young motherfuckersonly know the new shit and they
don't know the method man andred man shit I saw it both ways,
and I was like I don't know howwe could fix that.
I don't know where, you know, Imean the disconnect is between
(19:10):
the coaches, between generations, because, all right, even when
we grew up, we wasn't listeningto like fucking marley, you know
, molly mall or grandmasterflash, but there was a lot of
influences, though.
Even the guys that we grew uplistening or that I grew up
listening to in the late 80s,early 90s, were taking shit from
those guys from the 70s and 80s.
(19:31):
You know what I mean.
They were taking shit from krs,from rakim, from, you know, the
beastie boys from.
You know what I mean.
They were taking beats fromthem, they were taking certain.
They were borrowing lyrics andverses and little things like
that.
And it's not like we ain't knowwho these guys were, because
our guys were mentioning them,you know, mentioning them in
songs and shit like that.
But it's like these new kidsare like oblivious to anything
(19:51):
that happened before them, andthat's one of the shit that
fucking bothers me about thisgeneration bro.
Lindsey (19:56):
What I did I meant to say.
Jeff (19:57):
Like you know, I don't even want Hot 97's money.
Don't even invite me back.
Lindsey (20:10):
That's telling, telling .
I don't want to be performingin front of a crowd that don't
even know who I am or what mymusic is, type shit.
Yeah, I mean, at least I thinkthere's some kind of
generational gap going onbecause I mean maybe you, like
you just said, weren't like this, but like when I was coming up
like I don't know, like 1991give or take is when I got
started really getting intohip-hop.
It was like nine years old andby the time I'm like 14, 15
(20:31):
years old, um, you start to hearall these references, um, and
eventually you start going backbecause you want to see at least
I did what came before.
Start going back because youwant to see at least I did what
came before.
So I started listening to theold, at least at that time, like
(20:52):
older public enemy, older nwa,some easy e, because obviously
he was still going 91, 92, butjust going back and listening
third base beasties run dmc,everything that death at jam was
doing at the beginning, um.
And what's funny, what's reallyfunny about this is do you
(21:14):
remember the album?
In the beginning there was rap.
Yes, okay, this is almost whatstarted it, because that album
came out and I listened to thatalbum and it made me want to go
back and hear the originalversions of the songs, because
(21:35):
it's just newer artists coveringand redoing songs from like
that previous generation of likethe 80s guys, that was like a
compilation album though it was,so it's a whole bunch of new
artists doing older artists fromthe.
Jeff (21:48):
It was like our version of wow, remember them cds.
Wow, that's what you call musicor whatever and they would have
like 20 random tracks of alltypes of genres and shit.
Lindsey (21:57):
Yep, and through that it was like I wanted to go back
and really delve into thecatalogs of these artists
because I knew everything andwas listening to everything that
was new at the time, butespecially back then.
Man, like we didn't havefucking streaming, we didn't
(22:18):
have.
You want to listen to the song?
Push a button.
There was, oh shit.
Ok, this used CD is eightdollars and in order for me to
get that eight dollars I'm gonnahave to mow like two lawns.
I'm gonna have to go try andfind some neighbors in the yard
who need some stuff done likearound the neighborhood.
I'm gonna have to try and finda way, get that eight dollars so
(22:38):
I can get down to the used cdstore and buy that one album and
that's it.
It's fucking hit or miss.
If you get that album and itsucks and you're just you're
fucked.
But it wasn't as easy to getall of these albums.
So unless you had an olderbrother, an older cousin, an
uncle or somebody who had, likethat, either tape or cd
(23:01):
collection already established,dude, it was a grind to try and
listen to that music that camebefore us because it's fucking
expensive.
Even back then $8, I know itwasn't a lot, doesn't sound like
a lot, but $8 back then was alot of money.
So what you had to go throughyeah, and even a fucking 15
(23:22):
trying to get $10 so I can gobuy one used CD to see oh, is
this even good?
Do I even like this?
Jeff (23:31):
Sometimes we buy the shit just to listen to the one song
we like, and then they evenlisten to the other shit.
Yep.
Lindsey (23:38):
And so it was almost like there was a barrier for us
for how much you could actuallylisten to, because you only had
so much money at your disposal.
You wanted to be buying some ofthe new cds that came out, but
you also wanted to hear some ofthat music that came before you.
So, again, you were shit out ofluck if you didn't have one of
those older individuals in yourlife.
Jeff (23:58):
That's where I'm getting at which I think that's part of
the disconnect between ourgeneration and today's
generation.
When we found out thatsomething was influenced from
something from the past, I wascurious to go check that out.
Facts Like when Snoop Dogg andhis first album a doggy style.
He does that song the lottydotty.
I had no idea who slick Rick was.
Right Facts.
(24:19):
Years later I find out oh shit,he's took that from slick rick.
He's paying homage to slickrick.
So let me go listen to theoriginal one.
And now obviously we haveinternet and now I can search
shit.
Back then we ain't have thatshit.
Lindsey (24:32):
You know what I mean yeah, you have to buy the whole
cd today's kids.
Jeff (24:35):
You tell them you know, offset made a whole song, but
his, his version is you knowit's from like krs1 from 1988.
They don't give a fuck.
They're like we don't give afuck.
They're like oh, we don't givea fuck, who's KRS-One, we don't
care.
You know what I mean.
If Drake comes out withsomething that's inspired from
some shit from the 90s, theydon't give a fuck.
Yo, I'm running around and I'mlistening on the radio in my car
and I hear that Busta Rhymebeat on at least three different
(24:57):
songs.
Oh yeah, you know what I'mtalking about.
Whatever the fuck, if youreally want to party with me.
So they're using that beat.
They got what's the one song?
Because girls is players too.
They got it on that.
What's that bitch's name?
I spice.
Lindsey (25:12):
I don't know how to listen to that shit.
Jeff (25:14):
They got the beat on that song.
They have the same beat on areggae song, like a Jamaican
reggae song, so you'll hear thebeat beat on like three or four
different songs like in an houron the radio, on the local.
You know hip hop stations and Ibet you, the majority of these
fucking kids listen to have noidea where that shit came from.
They don't know that's a busterrhymes, fucking song.
Ice spice even has a remix toher song with buster on it
(25:35):
paying homage.
You know, I'm saying Iappreciate like all right, this
is where I got it from.
But like I'm on twitter all dayand I'm talking to these 20
year olds and they're like, yeah, drake is the best ever, or
yeah, 21 Savage, or whoever thefuck, and they have no idea what
the fuck came before them andthey don't care.
That's the thing.
Not only do they not know whatcame before them, they just
don't even give a fuck becauseit doesn't exist.
They came before them, so itdoesn't exist.
(25:56):
Like that's my biggest gripe.
Lindsey (26:08):
If we we had this availability of music at the
tips of our fingers when we werecoming up, we would have been
able to hear whatever the fuckwe wanted, because we wouldn't
have had to save up to buy aused cd and we would have been
able to just listen to anythingwhenever we wanted to.
But we didn't have that, so wehad blind spots.
Because you can't buyeverything.
You didn't know somebody whohad everything.
Not everybody has like a jimmygreen in their life, where the
(26:30):
dude just has every piece ofmusic that's been released in
the past 40 years, you know whatI mean for real.
But we didn't have that.
If we had apple music, spotify,whatever, any of these dsps, we
could have just pushed a buttonand listened to any song, any
album, any artist that we wantedto we could have gone through.
Jeff (26:52):
They have no excuse, none like they have everything at the
palm of their hands, bro, theyhave everything, all the
information they need they couldlisten to an entire artist
discography like in a day.
Lindsey (27:05):
You know what I mean, and it wouldn't cost them
anything.
It would cost them the tendollars a month that you know.
The spotify or apple musicsubscription is that ten dollars
?
That bought us one, one cd.
If we were lucky we could findyou cd for five.
So ten bucks would get us two.
But you're talking aboutlistening to two albums from
whatever you know genre,whatever era we wanted, and
(27:29):
these kids can listen to all ofit and it cost them 10 bucks.
It's just.
The barrier to the access ofthe music is so much easier now
and yet the desire to go backisn't there.
We had that desire to go backand listen to what came before
(27:50):
us, but we just didn't have theability to listen to whatever
whenever we wanted.
Like, yeah, you can go into theCD store and if you were lucky
they still had one of those cdlistening stations so you could
listen to something before youbought it I used to go to
fucking barnes and noble and goright to the back because they
had those listening stations.
Jeff (28:08):
Yep, and I would just sit there for hours.
They'll just listen.
They would let you listen toclips you can't listen to the
whole song you can listen tolike 30 seconds or a minute.
Lindsey (28:16):
Yep, and I would sit there and just listen to the
songs and shit and it would giveyou an idea of okay, maybe this
album isn't as good as Ithought it was going to be, but
this album is as good and thisis a seems like it's good, but
you still only had ten dollarsand you still only were able to
buy one cd, so it's like it wasjust it was more difficult and
(28:37):
what I would do is you know, youget one of your boys like yo.
Jeff (28:40):
Let's split this shit.
You put five, I'll put five,and then we share it and then we
burn it.
Lindsey (28:44):
See, that's what I did, come like 10th grade that
became available.
Jeff (28:47):
Yeah, but before that we used to just share.
Lindsey (28:49):
Like yo, I'm gonna hold it for a week you take it home,
you know I mean then, you takeit home for a week and me and my
boys would do shit like that I,you dude, I fucking stole so
many cds from my older cousinbecause he had a little bit.
He had more money than me, likehe had, uh that out to him yeah,
you know, parents were, youknow, buying them cds and shit,
(29:09):
and so he had way more musicthan I did, especially in
hip-hop.
Um, so, before burners came out, I'm just like sliding
something out of that you know100 cd booklet.
I'm sliding it out of his andI'm sliding it into mine.
You know, shout out my.
I took so many fucking cds overthe years well, before we end
(29:31):
this shit.
Jeff (29:31):
I mean it basically just comes down to entitlement and
just respect, or lack thereof.
You know what I mean?
Because if I tell you, if Itell one of these new
motherfuckers, yo, let me tellyou my top five.
My top five is naz jay-z.
Now, all those fucking guys arewashed.
Those old guys are why whatthey're gonna tell me, right,
they're gonna tell me that drakeis on their list, maybe
kendrick, you know, whoever, thefuck, little uzi, this and that
(29:52):
whoever.
And I'll be like, all right,fine, that's just trash to us.
But if we heard when we weretheir age, if we heard an old,
an old head tell us, you know,their top five was rakim flick
rig, we wasn't gonna be like, oh, that's trash.
That's why we was gonna be like, all right, we're gonna respect
it.
Lindsey (30:08):
You know what I mean and we're gonna go do the
fucking knowledge.
We're gonna try and grab atleast one rakim cd.
We're gonna try and grab likean epPM CD.
We want to see what everybody'stalking about.
If we respected the opinions ofthe people, who lived through
the shit.
Jeff (30:30):
I would have old coworkers that were older than me and
they would tell me that theirtop five was Rakim KRS-One,
slick Rick, big Daddy, kane, youknow what I mean.
Like flash right and I'm like,oh okay, cool, that would make
me go home and go try to findthem so I could see what's up.
Lindsey (30:44):
Yeah, because they lived through this shit, like
they know, in real time thatmade me actually appreciate a
krs1 you know, I got him on mylist now he's on.
Jeff (30:52):
You know.
You go on my title and I got abunch of his songs on my
playlist now.
You know know what I mean?
Rakim, a fucking Big Daddy Kane.
Because they inspired my guys,they inspired Nas, they inspired
Big Pun.
You listen to Nas.
You listen to Big Pun.
You're listening to fuckingCoogee Rap and Big Daddy Kane.
You know what I'm sayingAbsolutely.
But now these young kids arelike ah, fuck Nas, Fuck lyrics.
(31:15):
What the fuck is lyrics?
We're listening to vibes, bro.
We're looking for vibes andshit.
We don't give a fuck aboutlyrics, Vibes and production and
pill popping and whatever.
All right, cool.
Lindsey (31:24):
Yeah, it wasn't.
It's just, it's not the same.
I wish we could have had theaccess that this generation has
(31:44):
to music because, oh my God, wewould have been listening to
absolutely fucking everythingthat we could.
We didn't.
Jeff (31:46):
They don't have that fucking barrier of look, you can
buy two cds this week andthat's it.
So you better make a fuckingcount.
Like it's just when I tell youI get clowned by the old heads
when I tell you, notice me.
I've told you I like fuckingcar day, core day, right I like
he's in his 20s and I respecthim because he's lyrical and he
collaborates with the old head.
He got songs with eminem,little wayne, fucking naz, you
know what I mean.
Like he pays respect to the onesthat came before him and he
doesn't fucking insult thefucking culture or the genre
(32:08):
yeah you know I mean, and he'slike, he's like in one of those,
he's like in the middle, likethe old heads are like, ah, fuck
him.
And then the young heads arelike, oh, he's too lyrical for
us, so I feel bad.
He's like in the middle.
You know what I mean.
Lindsey (32:21):
Like my top five changed over the years, like
when I was, you know, a teenager, all through high school, maybe
, even probably through highschool it was, it was current
artists that were all myfavorites.
And once I was really able tolisten to Rock Him's albums,
(32:42):
listen to Big Daddy Kane'salbums, listen to Cool G Rap's
albums, like holy shit, like mytop five, top ten, whatever it
changed drastically.
Once I went back and startedlistening to all this music that
came before me and like, don'tget me wrong, big and poc still
(33:06):
my one and two, and they werethen and they're still now.
But it was the other guys, the,it was cool g rap, it was rock
him, it was guys like that whokrs, who started to creep into
my list and I'm like, holy shit,now I see where this guy got
(33:27):
this from and now I see why,like you can track like the
deliveries pre-rock him andpost-rock Kim.
You know what I mean.
So you can see Rock Kim is likea catalyst for a major shift in
hip hop and once you actuallygo back and listen to what was
(33:49):
before, then listen to Rock Kim,then you listen to what came
after, now you can see hisinfluence and how severe it was
on the way people were rappingand the more you listen you're
like holy shit, I'm giving thisguy credit for this and rock him
(34:09):
.
Is the one who started it?
That like multi-syllabicwhatever, where every syllable
is rhyming with thecorresponding syllable on the
next line?
right like not beyond.
That's just the rhyme scheme.
I'm talking about beyond thedelivery, because rock him
completely switched the delivery.
It went from like dr seuss toholy shit.
(34:31):
I didn't know people couldfucking rap like this or some
shit, and so, like hisinfluences on lyricism, it's on
delivery, it's on rhyme schemesand like guys like Eminem, like
you see where the fuck this camefrom, when this is the man who
created it, this is the man whoevolved it, this is the man who
(35:02):
made it what it was and made itpossible for m to even spit like
that for meth, or I wouldn'tsay red.
Uh, red man probably spits alot like rock him.
Um yeah, it's the eminem'sfavorite, so you can see like
where it comes from and it'sjust like holy shit man.
Jeff (35:19):
By the way, this is a con, this is a topic for another
episode.
But that new Eminem, I'm notfucking with that new Eminem
song, bro, I'm sorry no, I agreelike it's.
Lindsey (35:27):
However, I can also say I was never a big fan of those
lead singles from any of theSlim Shady albums.
Jeff (35:34):
Like they were all catchy gimmicky, but they served their
purpose.
They were hokey, they werehokey as fuck.
Lindsey (35:43):
However, it was the formula that was always used.
It was the formula that worked,and if he's bringing back Slim
Shady, then you bring back thatformula, and there are.
I mean, those songs were huge.
So even though we didn't likethem, there was a big portion of
the population out there for,like the general for the casuals
(36:03):
.
That's for the casuals, exactlythat really fucked with that
stuff and I'm not a huge fan.
However, it's also not turningme off like his next single.
Jeff (36:12):
His next single will probably be the complete
opposite of that song.
Lindsey (36:15):
I don't know if he's doing another.
The album drops like, uh, lessthan a month.
They said the date already.
Yeah, he announced the date.
It's like I want to say earlyjuly.
It may even be end of june, Iforget, but regardless, it's
like if you judge sslp, fuckingmarshall mathers or even the
eminem show, off those leadsingles, like the rest of the
(36:39):
albums sound nothing like thoselead singles.
They never did.
Those were what the studiowanted.
The studio made them do andafter the success of my name is,
they made them do another oneon mmlp.
And then they made them doanother one on eminem show.
Like he talks in interviewsabout how much he didn't want to
do these fucking songs, how hedoesn't like doing these fucking
(37:00):
songs, but the studio isadamant about like, look, we
need to get something on theradio, we need to get something
catchy.
We're just gonna rinse andrepeat what you did on sslp with
my name is, and they do that.
However, the albums I mean.
There's no denying like it'slike jc said, I dumbed down for
my audience and doubled mydollars this is a little bit
(37:20):
more than dumb and down, though,like this is hokey, gimmicky,
silly, just catchy radio shit,not to mention it's just a
fucking blatant ripoff of theold single, which and I think
it's whatever for sure, yeah butI'm not to judge the album
based off of that, because youcan't judge those other old
(37:41):
albums based off of it.
So I'm not going to do it.
So I'm still.
We'll see if he gets back intolike that hunger which that's
what three albums does not exist.
Once you hit that level ofsuccess in anything, hunger goes
(38:06):
away, like you're not gonna seesomebody as passionate, as
angry, as hungry to fuckingprove themselves, to make and
push boundaries, like everybodygets complacent for the most
part once they hit that level ofsuccess but yo, lindsey man,
thank you for stopping by bro.
Jeff (38:25):
When we're gonna work something, man revote records
bro.
When you're gonna, we're gonnamake a mixtape, bro, I'll spit
some shit.
You put me out there.
We got some shit.
Lindsey (38:32):
We got some stuff I got some of the uh.
What do I know you?
Jeff (38:35):
you look like fucking pirates of the caribbean.
Bro.
Lindsey (38:37):
You look like johnny depp I'm sure you've heard that
shit, bro, with the fucking shiton the head.
Jeff (38:45):
Yo tell everybody where they can find you at.
Man, we definitely got to dosomething.
Man, shout out to the heights.
Man, that's my crew, yo shoutout to the patrons fucking.
Lindsey (38:52):
I got like.
I got like five height songs inmy fucking vault right now.
You do right, I do.
I got some of.
I got some of that old shit.
Jeff (38:58):
Yeah what you know about this the world ain't ready.
Yet the world ain't ready.
Lindsey (39:02):
We letting that shit marinate.
I like it.
We need to get you on somethingfor sure.
We got a lot of stuff.
Get you on something from likeJules Jimmy.
Yeah, you can find me RevoltRecords on Twitter R-E-E-V-O-L-T
Records and we have a new albumcoming out with a new artist
(39:24):
that we just signed, k.
It's in the works.
It's being finished right now.
Album should be out within thenext three to four weeks.
It's a little different thanwhat we've done so far.
It's just kind of likesummertime pop, high energy,
just kind of fucking vibes, andit's really enjoyable.
What's your youtube?
Revolt records.
You can see some of theofficial lyric videos that we
(39:47):
got up there.
Some other videos.
You can see some, uh, somegreen canine stuff which is
jimmy green and canine.
Shout out those two guys,they're fucking legends.
We got jewels.
We got cystic down inmississippi.
We have, uh, my daughter, zaya,the opera singer.
Jeff (40:03):
We have one of her albums and she's dope, she got a voice
bro yeah, she's got we use.
Lindsey (40:08):
Uh, what's cool is jewels has chopped up some of
those opera vocals and he'sthrown them in some of his beats
and I love really well likechoruses and shit or just
choruses background.
I gotta Skip the Kid beat.
Shout out, skip the Kid whochopped up one of the.
He chopped up Summertime and hemade a sick fucking beat out of
that.
(40:28):
We still haven't used it.
I'm waiting for the perfectperson to put on it.
But yeah, it's really cool whenthey chop up those vocals.
But yeah, shout out, fuckingfucking.
Cala beats down in maryland.
We got that ethereal tape thatwe put out.
We got cystic jules k, jimmygreen canine.
We got quote, shout out.
Jeff (40:48):
Quote my partner gonna have to charge jimmy bro, we
done.
Shouted him out like five, sixtimes already today you can find
us man, everything's on there.
Lindsey (40:57):
We usually got links posted link tree, all that stuff
.
Jeff (41:00):
Appreciate you, man.
Shout out to my man, aunt um,check us out on youtube at the
culture 2020.
Go to our website, thecultureone.
Shout out to our patreons Iapologize, I haven't been
putting out as much content as Iwas in the past, but we're
getting there.
Thanks for tuning in y'all.
Yo, yo, yo, yo yo.
Thank you for tuning in toanother episode of the Culture.
This is episode 155.
As you can see, I'm your boy,jeff.
I am not here with my main man,ant.
We got another special guesttoday filling in.
He is a longtime listener andsupporter of the Culture.
He is Lindsey of Revolt Records.
(00:22):
Thank you for joining me today,man.
What's going?
Lindsey (00:26):
on buddy.
Introduce yourself to the folks, bro.
My name's Lindsay, one of theco-owners and founders of Revolt
Records, little independentrecord label based out of Rhode
Island.
We got artists and acts fromthe UK, Mississippi, Rhode
Island.
We've worked with some peopledown in Maryland, North Carolina
(00:48):
, Just kind of doing that,making as much music as we can
with some of the most talentedartists we can find.
Jeff (00:56):
As he casually handles his drug paraphernalia.
Lindsey (01:02):
It was a rough night.
I'm still recovering.
Jeff (01:04):
Oh shit, all right, man, man, let's get right into it,
man, because, as you've known ifyou've been hearing the last
few episodes, I try to get rightinto it.
I try not to make long episodesanymore, because I've learned
that this generation's attentionspan is fucking minuscule as
fuck.
I try to keep episodes no morethan 30 minutes.
So all right, let's get rightinto some of these topics.
(01:24):
I got a lot of things going ontoday I want to discuss.
Uh, met the man, something hesaid.
I do have a new ghetto word ofthe week.
All right, but first, is thatracist?
(01:45):
No, apple music recentlyreleased their top 100 best
albums of all time, correct,yeah?
They did all right, I'm not forbefore.
Before we get into it, I'm notgoing to pretend that apple
music is the end, all be all.
You know what I mean.
And music authority, but theyare respected conglomerate right
(02:06):
.
Yeah, it was better than rollingstone right and they put out
the 100 album, not hip-hopalbums, albums in general, of
all genres, yep.
And they put miss lauren hill,the miseducation of lauren hill,
as their number one.
And here we have a picture ofher and ebro from hot 97 as
they're giving her the you know,telling her the news that her
(02:30):
album was chose number one.
And of course you see thebacklash.
And aunt knows this.
You probably know this fromhearing the show.
Like you know how I feel aboutlauren hill, I know I have
miseducation in my top five ofhip-hop albums hip-hop albums of
all time and she's not evennumber one.
(02:51):
She's in my top five but she'snot even number one in that
genre.
So it's safe to say that Iwouldn't even put her number one
of all time in any genre.
I agree, and we'll get into thecriterias.
We're going to get into thecriterias soon.
But they had Thriller at number2.
(03:11):
Let's look up the whole listhere.
I'm not going to go through thewhole 100, but we could do at
least the top 10.
We could dissect the top 10.
At least this is the list.
They had Beyonce at 10.
Lindsey (03:24):
They had Nirvana at list they had beyonce at 10,
they had nirvana at nine.
Jeff (03:27):
They had amy winehouse.
Rest in peace.
At eight.
Kendrick lamar good kid madcity at seven.
Stevie wonder at six.
Frank ocean five.
Prince purple, rain for thebeatles.
Three, michael jackson thriller, which would be my all-time
number one of any genre.
They have him at two and laurenhill at number one.
(03:48):
So give me your take on thisshit, man.
The people are losing theirshit online and I tell people
like, look man, these listsdon't mean anything.
If you've gone on my youtubepage, I got all types of lists
and a lot of people are like, oh, what the fuck is this?
It gets people talking, right?
That's that's what these listsare.
People love lists.
Top 10 lists people love them.
I love lists.
I always do lists on anythingtop five rappers, top this, top
(04:11):
players, whatever.
It's just a conversationstarter.
They don't mean shit.
This is not the definitive listof anything.
They just got a bunch of peoplein a room.
They all had their opinion,they all followed whatever
criteria they wanted to followand this is what they came up
with and it gets people talkingand for weeks people were
talking about this fucking shitand you know it feels like they
(04:32):
made the list based off of youknow what was the biggest album,
maybe not what was necessarilythe best album.
A lot of those albums in therewere fucking huge in their time,
yeah, but I wouldn't even saythat Miseducation was bigger
than any of those other albumseither.
Lindsey (04:51):
I don't know if I'd go that far, but Miseducation was
fucking huge.
Blonde was fucking huge.
Abbey Road was fucking huge.
In my opinion, there's onlymaybe two or three albums in
that list that belong there interms of quality.
Everything else just feels likethis was like one of the
biggest moments of its time, ofits era, and so they put it up
(05:12):
there for that.
But fucking lemonade, no,absolutely not, absolutely not.
Blonde, absolutely not.
Abbey road, absolutely fuckingnot.
Winehouse am Amy Winehouse?
Amy Winehouse?
Absolutely not.
Like, if you're not puttinganything from Pink Floyd,
anything from Zeppelin, over AmyWinehouse, it's just fucking
(05:32):
ridiculous.
The Cure disintegration being,if I'm not mistaken, it was like
number 27 or number 28.
Like that's one of the mostperfect albums ever made, in my
opinion, in terms of not evengenre, just across the board.
That is an absolute perfect,fucking album.
Fucking um miles davis yeah,kind of blue, but again one of
(05:57):
the most perfect albums, in myopinion, that's ever been made.
Didn't even crack the fuckingtop 10.
Like it just seems they'regoing for what was big, what was
the most popular, what maybehad a lot of influence moving
forward.
But I mean, dude, frank oceanbeing above stevie, are you out
of your mind?
Jeff (06:15):
and I love again, I love the miseducation.
A lot of people don't evenconsider it a hip-hop album.
They think it's an r&b album.
It has a lot of singing, but itdoes have a lot of rapping, so
to me it's a hip-hop album.
I have a blend.
I have it maybe number two orthree in my top five list of
hip-hop albums.
As far as of all time albums,yo fucking thriller.
(06:35):
That's like the only album I'veever seen that has like every
song is a single.
Every song is like a number onehit single on the entire album.
Like what other albums can yousay that shit about?
Lindsey (06:47):
Yeah, but also beyond that.
I mean Thriller is filled withquality music from start to
finish.
I mean they got huge because ofhow good the songs were, not
because of, oh, marketing,promotion, how we pushed it, how
we did.
This stupid little fuckingmarketing technique Like
Thriller is based off of thequality of its fucking content,
like hands down.
(07:08):
Just because everything kind ofwent huge doesn't really change
anything, because the qualityof that album, start to finish,
is fucking impeccable.
So I got no problem with that.
It's just some of these otherones like you have no business
putting blonde above songs inthe key of life.
Again, one of the most perfectalbums ever made by an artist in
(07:28):
the past 40, 50 years.
Jeff (07:31):
So what was the criteria, you ask?
I pulled it up.
Oh shit, all right, the voters.
I don't know how many of themwere they, but they were
challenged not to vote for theirfavorites.
But this is the criteria Albumsthat represented a cultural
moment for the artist or genre.
Albums that were completethoughts, not just collections
of hit songs.
Albums that thoroughlyrepresent culture and production
(07:52):
and lyrics.
Albums that inspired ageneration to want to create
more music.
Albums that represent the bestin storytelling, musicianship,
recording and production.
And, finally, albums that aretimeless and reached far beyond
the genre categorization.
Those were supposedly thecriteria.
Lindsey (08:14):
It doesn't seem like quality is up on that list.
It does seem like it's justbasically influence what was big
, what was popular, what had themost amount of buzz and what
continued to have buzz even, youknow, decades later.
There's nothing wrong with it.
I'm just saying if we're goingfor best albums of all time, we
got to bring quality into it.
(08:35):
You have to bring in the albumas a whole.
You have to bring in what's thealbum trying to say.
How do the songs convey themessage that the album and the
overall theme is trying to, youknow, convey and get across.
And I mean there's so manyalbums out there that do that,
and at such a high level thatthey, in my opinion, belong on
(08:58):
this list over some of theseother albums.
Like I just can't believebeyonce Lemonade is in the top
10 albums ever made.
I wouldn't have put that in thetop 100.
Jeff (09:09):
This is a dumb conspiracy, but do you think Lauren paid
them to do this?
Because right after sheannounced that she's making a
new album that she'll bedropping this year.
Now I don't think she wouldhave more money.
I don't think she has moremoney than anybody on this list,
because if Beyonce wanted topay Apple Music to put her
number one, she has theresources to do that shit.
Lindsey (09:29):
I mean I'm sure people are paying to get their stuff up
higher, but I mean that really,unless you're doing like an
Apple exclusive, what the fuckdoes it matter?
Right and maybe, she is, maybeshe is.
Maybe she is, though thathasn't happened in a while, like
I can't think of the last bigartist who was like okay, I'm
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only gonna put this out.
Jeff (09:53):
Wasn't it black star?
Didn't they do some shit likethat?
Lindsey (09:56):
yeah, they went on.
They didn't even go on dsps,they went on their own little
like streaming platform, yeah,and you could grab it like that,
but nothing's gonna beexclusive to just spotify or
just apple music.
So I don't know, maybe she paid, maybe she didn't.
Jeff (10:13):
Regardless, I don't think it fucking belongs there all
right, and I don't want to makethis out to be like oh, we're
bashing lauren, becauseeverybody knows I love.
No, I love that fucking albumman Love it, but does it deserve
to be even on the top 10 ofthis list?
Lindsey (10:27):
With some of the other albums that exist out there in
the ether over the past.
What are we?
Jeff (10:33):
rolling stones.
Rolling Stones had their top100.
And I don't even thinkMiseducation was in the top 10.
Lindsey (10:41):
I'm not mad at that.
I'm not mad if it's in the top10.
I'm not mad if it's out of thetop 10.
I just don't think it's numberone, like I just don't.
There's just so many othergreat bands and great artists
over the years that deserverecognition for the art that
they created.
Over somebody who's likeBeyonce, like oh, this is one of
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the biggest, if not the biggest, female artists in the world
and this album was fuckingeverywhere when it came out.
That's great and the album'sgood.
I'm not shitting on Lemonade,you know for what it is.
It's a good fucking album.
It's just, man, there's so muchout there.
Like how are you going to putthat over Miles Davis?
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How are you going to put thatover the Cure?
How are you going to put thatover Led Zeppelin?
How are you going to put thatover?
Jeff (11:35):
I was surprised I didn't see some rock albums in there.
You know what I'm saying.
Like you said, Led Zeppelin.
Lindsey (11:41):
Some of those classic rock, even Nirvana, like I love,
nevermind.
Jeff (11:45):
Well, Nirvana was on there .
Lindsey (11:46):
Yeah, nevermind is a great album.
Is it one of the greatest top10 albums ever created?
I don't think so, and KurtCobain.
Jeff (11:53):
I like their other album better.
What's the one with the nakedbaby in the cover?
Lindsey (11:56):
I like Bleach and I like In Utero.
What's the one on the list all?
Jeff (12:09):
right, cool, cool, and that was the name of the album.
I didn't even know that was thename of that shit.
Yeah, that was never mind it'sa great album.
Lindsey (12:14):
It really is, and I just it's not my favorite.
I get.
We're not going for favoriteson this, we're going for like
start to finish what I would doquality of the album, start to
finish, content message, likeall of that.
I agree.
Like, nevermind is up there fornirvana, it's just I think
nirvana has better albums thannevermind.
Plus, you didn't get any pearljam 10 uh, not on there.
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I didn't see that up there.
Um, alice in chains dirt like.
If you're gonna go from so youknow some of those classic
grunge era albums.
I mean, if nirvana nevermind isup there, some of these other
ones belong to like.
In my opinion, 10 from pearljam is a better album than
nirvana nevermind.
That might be a hot take, Idon't know, but it's just how I
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look at it.
Jeff (13:03):
I'm sure some people on twitter might have some shit to
say about that shit.
We'll find out.
Shout out to the barbershop.
Yo, all right, man, let's getinto this ghetto.
Ghetto, word of the week.
What do we got?
Yeah, I wish ant was here forthis.
Have you ever heard of the termjigaboo, not to be confused
with like jugaboo, because,right, they didn't like, they
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didn't like beyonce have a songwhere you're a jugaboo, the
jugaboo, jugaboo.
This is not that.
This is jiggaboo are you a whiteracist motherfucker.
Why are you laughing at this?
So you know?
I just I know what jiggaboo is,okay, well, I didn't know that
this was a derogatory term untilI looked it up on urban
dictionary.
(13:45):
This is new to you.
This word is new to me as faras being a fucking derogatory
term.
Okay, according to urbandictionary, it is a black or
african-american person who thefuck knew.
I've never heard somebody referto nobody as a yo, you fucking
jigaboo.
I mean, I never heard that shitand the senses that they used
was yo.
The other night I went toharlem and saw jigaboos.
Lindsey (14:07):
God damn, that sounds racist as fuck, holy shit yeah,
I mean I can't believe we'rehaving is that racist?
For a racial slur derogatoryterm?
Jeff (14:18):
that's this is, this is an this is a ghetto word of the
week oh, my bad, that's right Iguess it could turn into an is
that racist moment?
Lindsey (14:25):
I don't think we need to question that.
It's definitely racist.
It's always been racist.
Jeff (14:31):
So I shouldn't even use the word jigaboo.
Lindsey (14:33):
I would not personally.
Is it as bad as the N word?
Oh, I don't know if anything interms of derogatory terms for
black people is as bad as the Nword, but I mean, that's fucking
up there.
That's a fucked up word.
It's like.
Jeff (14:53):
I'm moving on because All right.
Lindsey (14:56):
I'm curious where it comes from, cause everything has
a base, everything has like astarting point Like where the
fuck does that come from?
Does it come?
Jeff (15:03):
from gigolo.
Lindsey (15:11):
I don't know.
I mean mean, how can you turnthe word gigolo into something
racist?
I don't know.
We're gonna have to look upthat words.
Uh, what is it etymology?
What's the word I'm looking for?
Jeff (15:16):
we gotta look that up all right, let me move on man so hot
97 recently had their yearlysummer jam concert.
Right, met the man and red manperform like they always do.
So Hot 97 recently had theiryearly Summer Jam concert, right
, mm Method man and Redmanperform like they always do, yup
, like they always start theshit off high intensity, right,
(15:37):
yes, sir, jumping off the stagedoing all types of wild shit.
I posted up the XXL Magazinecover there where Method man
says he's not coming back toperform at Summer Jam.
His direct quote was neveragain.
At this point, the generationgap is just too wide for me,
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no-transcript.
And look at the lineup.
Look at the fucking lineup thatthey have Doja Cat, fucking
Offset, who decided to comeoutside.
Sexy Red, who's now involved inlike WWE and shit.
She doesn't know what she wantsto do.
Method man and Red man.
Sleepy Hollow, devito T-Grizzly41.
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So who stands out?
Who doesn't belong on this list?
Yeah, it's like one of thesethings.
It's not like the others.
Who is not like Method man andRed man?
Right?
So that's the lineup.
Let me pull up his direct yeah,his direct quote.
Look at his direct quote righthere.
Hold on, I got it.
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He goes.
It's not our crowd at all.
Thanks again, new york and thewhole tri-state area showed up
for the event, plus p and e, bro.
I got love for you guysreferring to peter rosenberg and
ebro from high 97, but neveragain.
At this point the generationgap is just too wide for me.
I can imagine that the fansprobably half of these
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motherfucking kids didn't evenknow who these guys were right
no, probably just a name.
Only if you tried to, you knowname five method man songs named
five red man songs and name onethey probably know met the man
from power, if they even watchthat and they don't know red man
at all.
Lindsey (17:23):
Yeah, that's a shame you.
Jeff (17:25):
And if they starting off the show, people probably just
arriving, they probably ain'tknow what was going on.
Nobody was probably cheering.
I went to the Hip Hop 50 atYankee Stadium last year to
celebrate 50 years of hip hopand Method man came out and
everybody went fucking bonkers,right.
Obviously girls went bonkers,you know what I'm saying.
He comes out in a tank top orhe takes his shirt off or
whatever and everybody's goingcrazy.
(17:46):
But you know, matt the man,because there was, realistically
, 50 years of hip-hop, themajority of people in there were
over 30, correct, you knowright.
So I also saw it in both, bothways, like I.
Because when naz came out forthe hip-hop 50 and he started
doing songs from his later, fromhis like his last couple albums
, including a song that he didwith lauren hill, which I love,
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and I was singing the lyrics tothe shit, I looked around and
nobody even knew the fuckingsong.
They didn't even know that waslauren.
When she came out I had dudesasking me who's that?
I'm like that's lauren hill,bro, and I'm singing the lyrics
and I was the only one.
In the whole yankee stadiumit's 40, 50 000 people there I
was the only one that knew thesong, because that's from naz's
like latest album.
Right, the people are youtalking about the one where she
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spit yeah, yeah, okay, she had ahot ass verse on that shit, she
did she did that's how nazbrought her out.
He brought her out to that songthat they did.
Nobody knew the fucking songbut me.
And then she had to tell the djlike yo, let's cut this shit.
And then they played the shitthat everybody knows.
Lindsey (18:45):
Yeah, they went to the world, they went to that and
that shit bothered me.
Jeff (18:48):
I was like damn so these motherfuckers, these old heads,
only know the old shit.
You know what I mean.
They don't know the new shit.
But then if you go to a youngconcert with you know the Summer
Jam, those young motherfuckersonly know the new shit and they
don't know the method man andred man shit I saw it both ways,
and I was like I don't know howwe could fix that.
I don't know where, you know, Imean the disconnect is between
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the coaches, between generations, because, all right, even when
we grew up, we wasn't listeningto like fucking marley, you know
, molly mall or grandmasterflash, but there was a lot of
influences, though.
Even the guys that we grew uplistening or that I grew up
listening to in the late 80s,early 90s, were taking shit from
those guys from the 70s and 80s.
(19:31):
You know what I mean.
They were taking shit from krs,from rakim, from, you know, the
beastie boys from.
You know what I mean.
They were taking beats fromthem, they were taking certain.
They were borrowing lyrics andverses and little things like
that.
And it's not like we ain't knowwho these guys were, because
our guys were mentioning them,you know, mentioning them in
songs and shit like that.
But it's like these new kidsare like oblivious to anything
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that happened before them, andthat's one of the shit that
fucking bothers me about thisgeneration bro.
Lindsey (19:56):
What I did I meant to say.
Jeff (19:57):
Like you know, I don't even want Hot 97's money.
Don't even invite me back.
Lindsey (20:10):
That's telling, telling .
I don't want to be performingin front of a crowd that don't
even know who I am or what mymusic is, type shit.
Yeah, I mean, at least I thinkthere's some kind of
generational gap going onbecause I mean maybe you, like
you just said, weren't like this, but like when I was coming up
like I don't know, like 1991give or take is when I got
started really getting intohip-hop.
It was like nine years old andby the time I'm like 14, 15
(20:31):
years old, um, you start to hearall these references, um, and
eventually you start going backbecause you want to see at least
I did what came before.
Start going back because youwant to see at least I did what
came before.
So I started listening to theold, at least at that time, like
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older public enemy, older nwa,some easy e, because obviously
he was still going 91, 92, butjust going back and listening
third base beasties run dmc,everything that death at jam was
doing at the beginning, um.
And what's funny, what's reallyfunny about this is do you
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remember the album?
In the beginning there was rap.
Yes, okay, this is almost whatstarted it, because that album
came out and I listened to thatalbum and it made me want to go
back and hear the originalversions of the songs, because
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it's just newer artists coveringand redoing songs from like
that previous generation of likethe 80s guys, that was like a
compilation album though it was,so it's a whole bunch of new
artists doing older artists fromthe.
Jeff (21:48):
It was like our version of wow, remember them cds.
Wow, that's what you call musicor whatever and they would have
like 20 random tracks of alltypes of genres and shit.
Lindsey (21:57):
Yep, and through that it was like I wanted to go back
and really delve into thecatalogs of these artists
because I knew everything andwas listening to everything that
was new at the time, butespecially back then.
Man, like we didn't havefucking streaming, we didn't
(22:18):
have.
You want to listen to the song?
Push a button.
There was, oh shit.
Ok, this used CD is eightdollars and in order for me to
get that eight dollars I'm gonnahave to mow like two lawns.
I'm gonna have to go try andfind some neighbors in the yard
who need some stuff done likearound the neighborhood.
I'm gonna have to try and finda way, get that eight dollars so
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I can get down to the used cdstore and buy that one album and
that's it.
It's fucking hit or miss.
If you get that album and itsucks and you're just you're
fucked.
But it wasn't as easy to getall of these albums.
So unless you had an olderbrother, an older cousin, an
uncle or somebody who had, likethat, either tape or cd
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collection already established,dude, it was a grind to try and
listen to that music that camebefore us because it's fucking
expensive.
Even back then $8, I know itwasn't a lot, doesn't sound like
a lot, but $8 back then was alot of money.
So what you had to go throughyeah, and even a fucking 15
(23:22):
trying to get $10 so I can gobuy one used CD to see oh, is
this even good?
Do I even like this?
Jeff (23:31):
Sometimes we buy the shit just to listen to the one song
we like, and then they evenlisten to the other shit.
Yep.
Lindsey (23:38):
And so it was almost like there was a barrier for us
for how much you could actuallylisten to, because you only had
so much money at your disposal.
You wanted to be buying some ofthe new cds that came out, but
you also wanted to hear some ofthat music that came before you.
So, again, you were shit out ofluck if you didn't have one of
those older individuals in yourlife.
Jeff (23:58):
That's where I'm getting at which I think that's part of
the disconnect between ourgeneration and today's
generation.
When we found out thatsomething was influenced from
something from the past, I wascurious to go check that out.
Facts Like when Snoop Dogg andhis first album a doggy style.
He does that song the lottydotty.
I had no idea who slick Rick was.
Right Facts.
(24:19):
Years later I find out oh shit,he's took that from slick rick.
He's paying homage to slickrick.
So let me go listen to theoriginal one.
And now obviously we haveinternet and now I can search
shit.
Back then we ain't have thatshit.
Lindsey (24:32):
You know what I mean yeah, you have to buy the whole
cd today's kids.
Jeff (24:35):
You tell them you know, offset made a whole song, but
his, his version is you knowit's from like krs1 from 1988.
They don't give a fuck.
They're like we don't give afuck.
They're like oh, we don't givea fuck, who's KRS-One, we don't
care.
You know what I mean.
If Drake comes out withsomething that's inspired from
some shit from the 90s, theydon't give a fuck.
Yo, I'm running around and I'mlistening on the radio in my car
and I hear that Busta Rhymebeat on at least three different
(24:57):
songs.
Oh yeah, you know what I'mtalking about.
Whatever the fuck, if youreally want to party with me.
So they're using that beat.
They got what's the one song?
Because girls is players too.
They got it on that.
What's that bitch's name?
I spice.
Lindsey (25:12):
I don't know how to listen to that shit.
Jeff (25:14):
They got the beat on that song.
They have the same beat on areggae song, like a Jamaican
reggae song, so you'll hear thebeat beat on like three or four
different songs like in an houron the radio, on the local.
You know hip hop stations and Ibet you, the majority of these
fucking kids listen to have noidea where that shit came from.
They don't know that's a busterrhymes, fucking song.
Ice spice even has a remix toher song with buster on it
(25:35):
paying homage.
You know, I'm saying Iappreciate like all right, this
is where I got it from.
But like I'm on twitter all dayand I'm talking to these 20
year olds and they're like, yeah, drake is the best ever, or
yeah, 21 Savage, or whoever thefuck, and they have no idea what
the fuck came before them andthey don't care.
That's the thing.
Not only do they not know whatcame before them, they just
don't even give a fuck becauseit doesn't exist.
They came before them, so itdoesn't exist.
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Like that's my biggest gripe.
Lindsey (26:08):
If we we had this availability of music at the
tips of our fingers when we werecoming up, we would have been
able to hear whatever the fuckwe wanted, because we wouldn't
have had to save up to buy aused cd and we would have been
able to just listen to anythingwhenever we wanted to.
But we didn't have that, so wehad blind spots.
Because you can't buyeverything.
You didn't know somebody whohad everything.
Not everybody has like a jimmygreen in their life, where the
(26:30):
dude just has every piece ofmusic that's been released in
the past 40 years, you know whatI mean for real.
But we didn't have that.
If we had apple music, spotify,whatever, any of these dsps, we
could have just pushed a buttonand listened to any song, any
album, any artist that we wantedto we could have gone through.
Jeff (26:52):
They have no excuse, none like they have everything at the
palm of their hands, bro, theyhave everything, all the
information they need they couldlisten to an entire artist
discography like in a day.
Lindsey (27:05):
You know what I mean, and it wouldn't cost them
anything.
It would cost them the tendollars a month that you know.
The spotify or apple musicsubscription is that ten dollars
?
That bought us one, one cd.
If we were lucky we could findyou cd for five.
So ten bucks would get us two.
But you're talking aboutlistening to two albums from
whatever you know genre,whatever era we wanted, and
(27:29):
these kids can listen to all ofit and it cost them 10 bucks.
It's just.
The barrier to the access ofthe music is so much easier now
and yet the desire to go backisn't there.
We had that desire to go backand listen to what came before
(27:50):
us, but we just didn't have theability to listen to whatever
whenever we wanted.
Like, yeah, you can go into theCD store and if you were lucky
they still had one of those cdlistening stations so you could
listen to something before youbought it I used to go to
fucking barnes and noble and goright to the back because they
had those listening stations.
Jeff (28:08):
Yep, and I would just sit there for hours.
They'll just listen.
They would let you listen toclips you can't listen to the
whole song you can listen tolike 30 seconds or a minute.
Lindsey (28:16):
Yep, and I would sit there and just listen to the
songs and shit and it would giveyou an idea of okay, maybe this
album isn't as good as Ithought it was going to be, but
this album is as good and thisis a seems like it's good, but
you still only had ten dollarsand you still only were able to
buy one cd, so it's like it wasjust it was more difficult and
(28:37):
what I would do is you know, youget one of your boys like yo.
Jeff (28:40):
Let's split this shit.
You put five, I'll put five,and then we share it and then we
burn it.
Lindsey (28:44):
See, that's what I did, come like 10th grade that
became available.
Jeff (28:47):
Yeah, but before that we used to just share.
Lindsey (28:49):
Like yo, I'm gonna hold it for a week you take it home,
you know I mean then, you takeit home for a week and me and my
boys would do shit like that I,you dude, I fucking stole so
many cds from my older cousinbecause he had a little bit.
He had more money than me, likehe had, uh that out to him yeah,
you know, parents were, youknow, buying them cds and shit,
(29:09):
and so he had way more musicthan I did, especially in
hip-hop.
Um, so, before burners came out, I'm just like sliding
something out of that you know100 cd booklet.
I'm sliding it out of his andI'm sliding it into mine.
You know, shout out my.
I took so many fucking cds overthe years well, before we end
(29:31):
this shit.
Jeff (29:31):
I mean it basically just comes down to entitlement and
just respect, or lack thereof.
You know what I mean?
Because if I tell you, if Itell one of these new
motherfuckers, yo, let me tellyou my top five.
My top five is naz jay-z.
Now, all those fucking guys arewashed.
Those old guys are why whatthey're gonna tell me, right,
they're gonna tell me that drakeis on their list, maybe
kendrick, you know, whoever, thefuck, little uzi, this and that
(29:52):
whoever.
And I'll be like, all right,fine, that's just trash to us.
But if we heard when we weretheir age, if we heard an old,
an old head tell us, you know,their top five was rakim flick
rig, we wasn't gonna be like, oh, that's trash.
That's why we was gonna be like, all right, we're gonna respect
it.
Lindsey (30:08):
You know what I mean and we're gonna go do the
fucking knowledge.
We're gonna try and grab atleast one rakim cd.
We're gonna try and grab likean epPM CD.
We want to see what everybody'stalking about.
If we respected the opinions ofthe people, who lived through
the shit.
Jeff (30:30):
I would have old coworkers that were older than me and
they would tell me that theirtop five was Rakim KRS-One,
slick Rick, big Daddy, kane, youknow what I mean.
Like flash right and I'm like,oh okay, cool, that would make
me go home and go try to findthem so I could see what's up.
Lindsey (30:44):
Yeah, because they lived through this shit, like
they know, in real time thatmade me actually appreciate a
krs1 you know, I got him on mylist now he's on.
Jeff (30:52):
You know.
You go on my title and I got abunch of his songs on my
playlist now.
You know know what I mean?
Rakim, a fucking Big Daddy Kane.
Because they inspired my guys,they inspired Nas, they inspired
Big Pun.
You listen to Nas.
You listen to Big Pun.
You're listening to fuckingCoogee Rap and Big Daddy Kane.
You know what I'm sayingAbsolutely.
But now these young kids arelike ah, fuck Nas, Fuck lyrics.
(31:15):
What the fuck is lyrics?
We're listening to vibes, bro.
We're looking for vibes andshit.
We don't give a fuck aboutlyrics, Vibes and production and
pill popping and whatever.
All right, cool.
Lindsey (31:24):
Yeah, it wasn't.
It's just, it's not the same.
I wish we could have had theaccess that this generation has
(31:44):
to music because, oh my God, wewould have been listening to
absolutely fucking everythingthat we could.
We didn't.
Jeff (31:46):
They don't have that fucking barrier of look, you can
buy two cds this week andthat's it.
So you better make a fuckingcount.
Like it's just when I tell youI get clowned by the old heads
when I tell you, notice me.
I've told you I like fuckingcar day, core day, right I like
he's in his 20s and I respecthim because he's lyrical and he
collaborates with the old head.
He got songs with eminem,little wayne, fucking naz, you
know what I mean.
Like he pays respect to the onesthat came before him and he
doesn't fucking insult thefucking culture or the genre
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yeah you know I mean, and he'slike, he's like in one of those,
he's like in the middle, likethe old heads are like, ah, fuck
him.
And then the young heads arelike, oh, he's too lyrical for
us, so I feel bad.
He's like in the middle.
You know what I mean.
Lindsey (32:21):
Like my top five changed over the years, like
when I was, you know, a teenager, all through high school, maybe
, even probably through highschool it was, it was current
artists that were all myfavorites.
And once I was really able tolisten to Rock Him's albums,
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listen to Big Daddy Kane'salbums, listen to Cool G Rap's
albums, like holy shit, like mytop five, top ten, whatever it
changed drastically.
Once I went back and startedlistening to all this music that
came before me and like, don'tget me wrong, big and poc still
(33:06):
my one and two, and they werethen and they're still now.
But it was the other guys, the,it was cool g rap, it was rock
him, it was guys like that whokrs, who started to creep into
my list and I'm like, holy shit,now I see where this guy got
(33:27):
this from and now I see why,like you can track like the
deliveries pre-rock him andpost-rock Kim.
You know what I mean.
So you can see Rock Kim is likea catalyst for a major shift in
hip hop and once you actuallygo back and listen to what was
(33:49):
before, then listen to Rock Kim,then you listen to what came
after, now you can see hisinfluence and how severe it was
on the way people were rappingand the more you listen you're
like holy shit, I'm giving thisguy credit for this and rock him
(34:09):
.
Is the one who started it?
That like multi-syllabicwhatever, where every syllable
is rhyming with thecorresponding syllable on the
next line?
right like not beyond.
That's just the rhyme scheme.
I'm talking about beyond thedelivery, because rock him
completely switched the delivery.
It went from like dr seuss toholy shit.
(34:31):
I didn't know people couldfucking rap like this or some
shit, and so, like hisinfluences on lyricism, it's on
delivery, it's on rhyme schemesand like guys like Eminem, like
you see where the fuck this camefrom, when this is the man who
created it, this is the man whoevolved it, this is the man who
(35:02):
made it what it was and made itpossible for m to even spit like
that for meth, or I wouldn'tsay red.
Uh, red man probably spits alot like rock him.
Um yeah, it's the eminem'sfavorite, so you can see like
where it comes from and it'sjust like holy shit man.
Jeff (35:19):
By the way, this is a con, this is a topic for another
episode.
But that new Eminem, I'm notfucking with that new Eminem
song, bro, I'm sorry no, I agreelike it's.
Lindsey (35:27):
However, I can also say I was never a big fan of those
lead singles from any of theSlim Shady albums.
Jeff (35:34):
Like they were all catchy gimmicky, but they served their
purpose.
They were hokey, they werehokey as fuck.
Lindsey (35:43):
However, it was the formula that was always used.
It was the formula that worked,and if he's bringing back Slim
Shady, then you bring back thatformula, and there are.
I mean, those songs were huge.
So even though we didn't likethem, there was a big portion of
the population out there for,like the general for the casuals
(36:03):
.
That's for the casuals, exactlythat really fucked with that
stuff and I'm not a huge fan.
However, it's also not turningme off like his next single.
Jeff (36:12):
His next single will probably be the complete
opposite of that song.
Lindsey (36:15):
I don't know if he's doing another.
The album drops like, uh, lessthan a month.
They said the date already.
Yeah, he announced the date.
It's like I want to say earlyjuly.
It may even be end of june, Iforget, but regardless, it's
like if you judge sslp, fuckingmarshall mathers or even the
eminem show, off those leadsingles, like the rest of the
(36:39):
albums sound nothing like thoselead singles.
They never did.
Those were what the studiowanted.
The studio made them do andafter the success of my name is,
they made them do another oneon mmlp.
And then they made them doanother one on eminem show.
Like he talks in interviewsabout how much he didn't want to
do these fucking songs, how hedoesn't like doing these fucking
(37:00):
songs, but the studio isadamant about like, look, we
need to get something on theradio, we need to get something
catchy.
We're just gonna rinse andrepeat what you did on sslp with
my name is, and they do that.
However, the albums I mean.
There's no denying like it'slike jc said, I dumbed down for
my audience and doubled mydollars this is a little bit
(37:20):
more than dumb and down, though,like this is hokey, gimmicky,
silly, just catchy radio shit,not to mention it's just a
fucking blatant ripoff of theold single, which and I think
it's whatever for sure, yeah butI'm not to judge the album
based off of that, because youcan't judge those other old
(37:41):
albums based off of it.
So I'm not going to do it.
So I'm still.
We'll see if he gets back intolike that hunger which that's
what three albums does not exist.
Once you hit that level ofsuccess in anything, hunger goes
(38:06):
away, like you're not gonna seesomebody as passionate, as
angry, as hungry to fuckingprove themselves, to make and
push boundaries, like everybodygets complacent for the most
part once they hit that level ofsuccess but yo, lindsey man,
thank you for stopping by bro.
Jeff (38:25):
When we're gonna work something, man revote records
bro.
When you're gonna, we're gonnamake a mixtape, bro, I'll spit
some shit.
You put me out there.
We got some shit.
Lindsey (38:32):
We got some stuff I got some of the uh.
What do I know you?
Jeff (38:35):
you look like fucking pirates of the caribbean.
Bro.
Lindsey (38:37):
You look like johnny depp I'm sure you've heard that
shit, bro, with the fucking shiton the head.
Jeff (38:45):
Yo tell everybody where they can find you at.
Man, we definitely got to dosomething.
Man, shout out to the heights.
Man, that's my crew, yo shoutout to the patrons fucking.
Lindsey (38:52):
I got like.
I got like five height songs inmy fucking vault right now.
You do right, I do.
I got some of.
I got some of that old shit.
Jeff (38:58):
Yeah what you know about this the world ain't ready.
Yet the world ain't ready.
Lindsey (39:02):
We letting that shit marinate.
I like it.
We need to get you on somethingfor sure.
We got a lot of stuff.
Get you on something from likeJules Jimmy.
Yeah, you can find me RevoltRecords on Twitter R-E-E-V-O-L-T
Records and we have a new albumcoming out with a new artist
(39:24):
that we just signed, k.
It's in the works.
It's being finished right now.
Album should be out within thenext three to four weeks.
It's a little different thanwhat we've done so far.
It's just kind of likesummertime pop, high energy,
just kind of fucking vibes, andit's really enjoyable.
What's your youtube?
Revolt records.
You can see some of theofficial lyric videos that we
(39:47):
got up there.
Some other videos.
You can see some, uh, somegreen canine stuff which is
jimmy green and canine.
Shout out those two guys,they're fucking legends.
We got jewels.
We got cystic down inmississippi.
We have, uh, my daughter, zaya,the opera singer.
Jeff (40:03):
We have one of her albums and she's dope, she got a voice
bro yeah, she's got we use.
Lindsey (40:08):
Uh, what's cool is jewels has chopped up some of
those opera vocals and he'sthrown them in some of his beats
and I love really well likechoruses and shit or just
choruses background.
I gotta Skip the Kid beat.
Shout out, skip the Kid whochopped up one of the.
He chopped up Summertime and hemade a sick fucking beat out of
that.
(40:28):
We still haven't used it.
I'm waiting for the perfectperson to put on it.
But yeah, it's really cool whenthey chop up those vocals.
But yeah, shout out, fuckingfucking.
Cala beats down in maryland.
We got that ethereal tape thatwe put out.
We got cystic jules k, jimmygreen canine.
We got quote, shout out.
Jeff (40:48):
Quote my partner gonna have to charge jimmy bro, we
done.
Shouted him out like five, sixtimes already today you can find
us man, everything's on there.
Lindsey (40:57):
We usually got links posted link tree, all that stuff
.
Jeff (41:00):
Appreciate you, man.
Shout out to my man, aunt um,check us out on youtube at the
culture 2020.
Go to our website, thecultureone.
Shout out to our patreons Iapologize, I haven't been
putting out as much content as Iwas in the past, but we're
getting there.
Thanks for tuning in y'all.
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