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June 8, 2023 38 mins

In this episode, we delve into a thought-provoking discussion sparked by Neil deGrasse Tyson's statement regarding a racial stereotype. We examine the historical context and implications of such statements, challenging misconceptions and promoting accurate understanding. Additionally, we touch upon the monumental 50th anniversary Hip Hop concert at Yankee Stadium, celebrating the cultural milestones and global impact of this influential genre. Join us as we explore the power of cultural expression, tackle important social issues, and highlight the transformative nature of Hip Hop. Tune in for an engaging conversation that promotes inclusivity, challenges stereotypes, and celebrates the rich tapestry of our diverse cultural landscape.

Topics Discussed:

  • The Roots picnic in Philadelphia
  • Hip Hop 50th anniversary concert at Yankee Stadium
  • Is Ja Morant getting suspended?
  • Scientifically speaking the white man resembles a monkey more than any other race according to Neil deGrasse Tyson

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Jeff (00:00):
Yo we hear we hear man we hear what's good

Anthony (00:06):
good nick I'm exhausted fucking means good to people

Jeff (00:09):
why we didn't record over the weekend man which was up to

Anthony (00:12):
when we recorded with the fucking roots picnic that
shit was way go

Jeff (00:16):
the roots picnic be you went to both days, huh?

Anthony (00:19):
Now? Yes. Okay, so day one. I really stuck around to
see Lauryn Hill's performance.

Jeff (00:26):
She was the main event for day one.

Anthony (00:27):
Yeah. And she wasn't that great. I'm gonna be honest
with sad shame. But they broughtout but at the end they brought
out the foodies away who wait,wait, wait, wait

Jeff (00:37):
a minute. You didn't tell me that part?

Anthony (00:39):
Because I'm gonna leave it for the children again. So at
the end, they bring out all ofthem they bring out prize and
they bring out walk left.

Jeff (00:45):
Wait a minute. The she introduced them was she was all
three on stage at the same time.
All three on stage at the sametime that they interacted they
hug and kiss. Yes. Get the fuckout of here. Yes. And probably
people weren't chanting shit atpries like, Oh, you're going to
jail?

Anthony (00:59):
I mean, that's why when you think about it, it might be
the last performance because youknow, you know he goes to the
bank. You might not be around atime soon. I don't know how
that's gonna go. So like thethings like you saw wouldn't
last for him because before youknow, he goes to jail for maybe
eight to 10 years. And I don'tknow if they want to really want
to do the shit in like eight to10 years. Who knows? I still

Jeff (01:18):
go well now let's get back to the sort of concert so she
finishes a bunch of songs andthen she brings out prizes and
Wyclef Yeah, and I'm assumingthey do ready or not.

Anthony (01:27):
Maybe ready not to do food EULA and to do Killing Me
Softly Yeah, those three andpeople went crazy. For the last
three months.

Jeff (01:35):
They play them like correct like the original beats
and everything. Yes, word dad.
Yes. I would have loved to beatit.

Anthony (01:43):
That's a lot that's a lot they didn't play the
original beats they couldn'tplay the rhythm piece because
the rhythm be played by the rootcells back in the day with a
background fan. Oh the roots wasplaying all the beats to all the
songs they were they were thebackground band for that part.
So no question everyone elsecame out and did their thing and
they did the whole ringimaginations beat everything

(02:03):
else it was a fantastic dancewas they had a state property
reunion that's on Saturday allof them that it was good to see
him though beans with withhealth issues washed his head I
mean, but I mean like I mean,free basically like he has a

(02:24):
gigantic like arm like it's abig vein. Like they took it out
of his leg and put his arm tohelp like blood flow something
else like that beans got oneloan because of the shit he went
through. I mean it look olderbut I mean I'm not gonna brag on
it, but it was good to see himlike that's that doesn't really
shit so for the crowd and

Jeff (02:40):
wow for that random person was Jimmy Fallon there.

Anthony (02:43):
He might have been I don't see him like that. But
that said I saw fucking JermaineDupri and usher just riding
around like a little carton theyhad a little Cabana and shit
like watching the shows and hadsecurity around them like it's
pretty cool.

Jeff (02:57):
I mean, a cabana so All right, so that was Saturday.
What was Sunday,

Anthony (03:03):
Sunday when I got there. Our Linux was well let me
remind it city girls wasperforming and that was that was
not my crowd. I was like, Y'allgonna have this is for the the
young ratchet sat there in theworld with no complaints because
I mean, if that's your bag,that's your bag. Hardlinks came
on after her. All right, can Iask off so that was good. So I

(03:23):
really went for the last partwas the J period mixtape so you
know, lacto does it every year,comes out has verses over
certain songs and brings out tospecial guests. The first one
was a buster. It was somebodyspliff. He did everything. He
did that that better. Look at menow verse. I recorded that. He

(03:45):
did a dangerous he did the jointfrom with him or I cam or I
wasn't there. So let's not gettoo fucked up. He did all the
shit you would think you wouldget from him. He goes off stage
and then Eve comes out andeverybody loses their mind. She
does all her if she he does thehot boys, the hot boys remix

(04:09):
shit, pretty much all of herhits. I remember last year, she
did the show with Winston funny.
And you see the diversity yet.
And and then when it gets to thepart everyone was seeing

Unknown (04:21):
me and I'm gonna take my time. Back they push it. Let
people

Anthony (04:28):
they think that's it word for word. So that started
about 715 or shows at 915. Butthe live mixing is around 815
I'm like well, fuck. I got awhole hour. But it got so
crowded like people were tryingto see the show. I didn't move
where I was at, like I believedpretty much stayed around to

(04:48):
shuffle around with people thatI was thirsty. I had to pee.
I've been standing what sincelike four o'clock my fucking
ankles was killing me.
Everything was sore, buteverybody had it At a time I
swear to God, I didn't move atall. The only thing that saved
me is a dude that was, I guessone of the vendors there. He was
selling like like alcoholicfilters like Tallboy cat and

(05:11):
Heineken. And now he was like,oh like how much he said 14 and
said I'll pay. How many? Thetotal board laid 24 out. I
didn't get a voice.

Jeff (05:23):
That's like what? Like 3434 bottles right?

Anthony (05:26):
Oh my god, I'm thirsty so and I don't give a shit what
it is. I got I got this shitlike this closest what I'm gonna
get

Jeff (05:31):
that's actually not a bad deal.

Anthony (05:33):
Not sure. Maybe who gives a shit? But actually
didn't get Asha. Asha got histhing.

Jeff (05:41):
He did his thing.

Anthony (05:42):
You sh er er ay y mo Andy. Yes he did. Alright, so he
did all of his hits. And it's afour minute recording I got it's
hard to upload but I'm trying tofind it. So you know how to use
you got me then. That's all. Soblackdog comes out he's
performing that part does ErykahBadu come out? No. Okay. Jasmine

(06:05):
Salman comes out. She did herparts. Did Jasmine Sylvan did
the singing parts. And Asha wasout there too. And then let's
say even for Eve did her rappart on it, too. So like, oh,
man, it's good to see all thisshit. I sure had a wardrobe
trim. But he was wearing likeblack leather. And he's wearing
red leather. Oh, sure. Sobasically any any song that you
would think of the Usher wouldhave done he did it. You don't

(06:28):
have to call confessions You GotIt Bad good kisser. The thing?
Like it's weird, because I havetitled so when you put an usher.
They used to put the songs likewhichever is the most played and
superstar is always number one.
They put that shit on thembecause last they fucking mind
boy. And then they do like thelittle wilderness shit in the

(06:49):
beginning like I have man. Okay.
And I was frustrated. It waskind of fun. The funny part was
like, it was this old lady.
Let's say I'm here. She's aboutmaybe two feet in front of me.
Right? I took a picture of theback of her head. That's how
close she was. She had to belike, early 60s, right? She
reaches into her bra and pullsout the Blizzy. And she's like,

(07:10):
Oh, shit, but I can't move myfuck. And like if she was
hitting Harley, I mean.

Jeff (07:21):
I mean, I bet there was a lot of it going on.

Anthony (07:23):
It was like a fucking Cheech and Chong concert. It was
smoke everywhere, which is fine,but it's like, you want to enjoy
yourself and just weedeverywhere, but it's legal in PA
right? I don't, but it's so manygoddamn, people are going to try
to arrest everybody and don'tmake a whole lot of sense. But I
mean, I wasn't gonna argue aboutit. And like it is what it is
like, you know, open air thingpeople go on smoke. So she so
she hits blunt hard to themotherfucker. And didn't like

(07:47):
somebody. So let's ask her aquestion. If somebody feels
weird. She's like, Girl, Istarted choking. And I was
looking at like, SeaNanners hecan't can't hit it and talk you
got to finish exhale. Didn't getthe word though. She tried to be
like mid smoke mid pool try tobe Oh, cool. Like, is the 70s or
some shit. And she tried to getit out. I thought she's gonna

(08:08):
like, gag gag are everyone elsearound me laughing It was
laughing at me because what Isaid to him, but yeah, he can't
hit the shit and all of a suddenstart talking. You got to hit
it. Marinate. Exhale, did yourwords she tried to try to do two
things at once. You can do that.
And she didn't hide themindfuck. Here like before, she
was starting to like she triedto call her friend like Girl,
I'm over here. She raved. Sheturned the light on and raises a
phone. Like it's 30,000 peoplein this fucking apartment. She's

(08:31):
not gonna see this fucking phonelike, let this go. That's not
doing drugs manner. But all inall, it's a awesome time. I
don't know if I will go backnext year. It's not anything
against it. It's more likebecause he went to talk to
people at the job. He was like,oh man when he was the ashram
and yet, they're like, man,because I've been trying to go
to Vegas to see Russia. I'mlike, Alright, man. Could you

(08:53):
have sacrificed like your feetand ankles for like a couple of
hours to Senator Park and watchUsher or are you going to catch
a flight to Las Vegas? Getyourself a hotel room by 20
figured out tickets to watch andperform. I say there's a fucking
easy deal for me. Of course whenI went down to Philly for that
ships, easy money. You're notcoming back next year, because
this is the second second timewe've ever had lOn. No one else

(09:13):
has ever headlined twice. He'sdone it, I guess because of the
ship with puff. But oh, thatpuff thing is interesting, too.
He's on the second person of aheadliner, Bruce, Bruce thing.
And I don't know if there'sanyone out there that I would be
excited to go stand and see nextyear, if that makes any sense.
Because I mean, they're they'regreat artists, but I don't see

(09:35):
them. I don't see Beyonce doingthat. I'm not saying that she
wouldn't understand. It'd behighly unlikely. Or somebody you
really, really, really want tosee. Let me like let me stop.
Like, if they could somehow getKendrick, I go 1000 If they
could somehow get Kendrick, Igo. But I saw that No, but you
know,

Jeff (09:55):
I didn't go to that but you know where I am going. On
Friday, August the 11th On theday, it all began

Anthony (10:03):
as a sort of 430 dog

Jeff (10:06):
in the Bronx, New York, where it all started at Yankee
Stadium. No doors open at 430.
The shift starts at 6pm Hip Hop50th anniversary live presented
by Shamrock. Google Pixel, LiveNation and mass appeal. I'm
going to that shit. Tickets goon sale Thursday, couple of few

(10:27):
days from now. And remember Imentioned it before, but they
hadn't released the lineup. Thelineup was released today. And
you mind if I read it

Anthony (10:38):
off to you? I go home and go to their hip hop's

Jeff (10:43):
50th anniversary live at Yankee Stadium featuring Run DMC
Snoop Dogg. Lil Wayne, ice cubewith surprise guests.

Anthony (10:58):
I hate that shit. So

Jeff (10:59):
I'm assuming that I can't expect somebody like Dre and
dump type of people to show upbut we can we can wish we can
hope. Then we have the queens ofhip hop set Eve which you just
mentioned before, Lil Kim, RemyMa. And Trina, and then it says,
and more. But those are the fourheadliners for the women's the

(11:20):
queen of hip hop set. I wouldhave loved to see like fucking
Lauren pop out, you know, Imean, but whatever.

Anthony (11:26):
Trina can go. Go Yeah, I'm looking at like, I'm gonna
break this down. But yeah, likeTrina can go Alright,

Jeff (11:32):
then they have performing live ti Okay, Fat Joe.

Anthony (11:37):
You got to pick me, but he was gonna say to continue. I
mean, he's from

Jeff (11:41):
the Bronx, so you figured he'll be common? ASAP. Ferg I
could do without him. EPMDGhostface Killah killer. I guess
he's the only team member isgonna probably show up. He's
gonna win. He's doing shootright now. Lupe Fiasco. Slick
Rick. Then they have a pillarsof hip hop set, featuring DJ

(12:03):
Kool Herc. You know, he has tobe there. Cindy Campbell is
Cindy Campbell. What is herelated to this? His daughter,
his sister fucka. She

Anthony (12:12):
will get to it.

Jeff (12:16):
Because when I saw Cindy came alive, she must be related
to Clive Campbell. Then we haveGrandmaster Caz Curtis below.
These are pioneers, Melly Mel,Roxanne Shante Scorpio and the
Sugar Hill gang. And then itsays and more. I would have
loved to see KERS, his name onit, I would have loved to see
rock Kim's name on it. Maybethey'll pop up, I'm assuming but

Anthony (12:38):
but that's the whole thing. They shouldn't be the and
more they should be on there.

Jeff (12:41):
That's what I'm saying their names should be on there.
But okay. Because maybe they'renot these are the people that
are probably already committed.
Maybe they're still trying toget others and you know, haven't
been able to I don't know. Thenit says there is a legendary DJ
sets. There is battle cat. ClarkKent. Mannie Fresh. And Marley
ma I would have liked to seepremieres on my premiere on

(13:04):
there and I would have loved tosee jazzy Jeff's name on it. But
maybe they'll make a guestappearance. Who knows? But okay,
all right. So let's look atthose all the names that are on
the on the on the banner here.

Anthony (13:17):
So doors open at 430 show starts at six Correct?

Jeff (13:21):
I'm going to says tickets start at 50. And in real small
fine print. It says $50 ticketsand up rose bonuses and up
because I was under theimpression that all tickets are
gonna be $50.

Anthony (13:32):
Yes, as you were saying, you're trying to do the
math. I'm like, that's notthat's not capitalism. We have
all these people. I say 50,000People I figured out each is
$2.5 million $2.5 million. Whywould you ever have to just pay
Wayne to show up? Right?

Jeff (13:45):
And that's why we're not gonna see any other members of
Wu Tang. That's why we're notgonna see knives. We're not
gonna see Jay Z. We're not gonnasee ll we're not gonna see
Lauryn Hill. You can't pay he'smore focused enough to show up
to this shit.

Anthony (13:56):
But I mean, the fact that it's like the hip hop 50.
And from looking at it right tothe four headline of the West
Coast dude, I'm like, Huh?
That's strange. Like Alright, soyou got Snoop Dogg and cute,
right? And you're thinking like,maybe maybe you can throw in
like, I don't think Dre will doit. Huh? Game? Maybe game nah.

(14:18):
So like, say you're looking atthis lineup and it's kind of
like it's good. But like so soyou plan on being I'm guessing
you're gonna get there waybefore doors start you're gonna
get

Jeff (14:37):
I mean, you gotta find parking and all it is and then
you know, yeah, I'm gonna try toget there early. Fuck that kind
of traffic and all

Anthony (14:42):
this. You gotta find parking. So on a Friday, it's on
a Friday. You're gonna haveyou're gonna hit that rush hour.
You don't get it so I'm guessingyou don't go to the office that
day.

Jeff (14:51):
I might have to take that day off. Leave my house like I
fucking 1pm get there by liketwo three. Hawkin walk to the
venue to the stadium. Get inline.

Anthony (15:05):
Are you a buyer?

Jeff (15:07):
Not normally. No. If I see some road dope, I'm like I'm
rocking it and the prices youknow, consider it. I mean, I'm
not gonna go in there and spend$45 on a shirt that says, you
know, hip hop 50th anniversary.
I'm not gonna do that. But ifthe prices are decent, if the
shirt looks right, you know,I'll you know, fuck it. I'll

Anthony (15:24):
get it. Yeah, some dude was trying to sell me like some
t shirt at the picnic yesterday.
I was like, how much? He waslike, 35 I like nigga. I'll give
you you know, give me give methree for 30 You're like making
Patria 35? like, Yo, this shitis over. It's old now. And Obi
Wan wanted a shirt from theocean. You want to get a seagull
WEIRD TO THE shit is over. Soyou might have to cut me a deal.
He was a little funky ass away,man. Like I had my fucking

(15:47):
little fake ass shirt. I wastrying to do your salad. Now
you're gonna sit there willalways root shirts. You're gonna
use it to wash the fucking car.

Jeff (15:55):
Yeah, so I mean, I'm gonna buy tickets. Like so automatic.
I don't you know, I'm trying toconvince you to fucking show. I
don't know why you guys paid 150per ticket to go to the roots
shit. And

Anthony (16:08):
it was not paradise for two days.

Jeff (16:12):
I have no problem paying $50 I mean, you know, to go to
Yankee grant, so we're gonnahave to pay tolls and parking.
Okay, minimum 100 Just to getinto the ship. But

Anthony (16:21):
right, but where are they going to fit you? Are they
gonna fit some little funky asmany stadium bleachers?

Jeff (16:26):
I'm assuming? I mean, how many people can you fit on the
actual field? A lot, probably.
Because I figured I'm gonnaassume I'd like to assume that
for the 50th anniversary of hiphop, you could get 2030 I'm not
going to say they're going tosell out Yankee Stadium. I don't
expect that. But if tickets aregoing to be reasonably priced,
and it's the 50th anniversary ofhip hop, I figure you could get

(16:47):
people from let's say from 25years old all the way up to like
maybe 50 years old are quoteunquote Oh heads you know, you
and with this lineup this ismostly your overhead lineup.
Right? It's you figure I canfinally fit 20,000 people in
there. I would like to think

Anthony (17:07):
that I mean, the answer to your question is Thursday you
will find a third that you feelwith with seats available where
right right because hopefullythey got a big enough screen to
show everybody

Jeff (17:18):
I mean, I'm sure and then that didn't tell us a lot of the
field for like the stage andshit so most of the fields are
gonna be the stage I'm surethey'll have some seating some
special limited edition seatingon actual field it'll probably
be worth a couple 100 I believeat the dollar tickets will
probably be you know when thebleachers or wherever the fuck
and the stands and shit.

Anthony (17:38):
Oh, we didn't know you're gonna do that you're
gonna pay for it guys get somecardio to walk all the way up to
fucking stairs. Your host andsomebody's gonna be on Instagram
party livestream. They're on thephones. Aren't you like that? I
want to do that the concert butlike the signal is like it gets
too many folds going on and thesignal was shit.

Jeff (17:54):
What are the chances? My focus is gonna be smoking weed
in Yankee Stadium?

Anthony (17:58):
1,000% it's legal in New York. It's legal in New
York. Okay, today, okay. Yeah,but

Jeff (18:04):
you're technically it's not technically legal to smoke
indoors. I don't know if thatstadium is considered an outdoor
venue or is it consideredindoors?

Anthony (18:11):
Is there a fucking roof? Then it's outdoors. Right?
If it's literally outdoors,okay. And this is how it goes
with security, security and gottime to try to brush through the
crowd put out one need to joinit's a lot of people in this
Vogon so they're gonna keep likepicking out desperate they try
to break up the violence in thefight. They don't worry about

(18:32):
the bike and Hi. If you hi thatmean you mellow. Smoke it up. I
don't care. That mean youwatching the show? You didn't
even bother nobody you justusing their faded. So you're
only going to heart let's saylet's say it's gonna be 20,000
people, right? How much securityare you going to hire? On it?
200 right. What? 1000 It's

Jeff (18:51):
gonna be mad cops in there, but usually a lot of cops
and then when the Yankees play?
Yeah, the whole NYPD BNNmotherfuck

Anthony (18:58):
be it but it didn't make you think it'd be wild
fighting other fans and youknow, like

Jeff (19:03):
they like so for it is you figure they're gonna have a
bunch of people smoking weed anddrinking. I wonder what they're
gonna be selling as far as foodand I wonder how much they're
gonna be charging for drinks andshit a lot. Because, you know, I
know how expensive shit is forYankee game.

Anthony (19:15):
Right? So you can expect him to be no different.
To charge a lot. I expect himlike charging like less. Like,
let's say they had like acommemorative Hip Hop 50 Like,
old bottle. Right? Would you buya potty bite? Right? It's

Jeff (19:32):
the other souvenir cup and you can fill it with whatever
drink you want. Get Freerefills, like a little bit.

Anthony (19:39):
Like, go go back to the seats. But excuse me, I gotta go
back to consistent I get a freerefill and my cup. I message on
my fucking.

Jeff (19:47):
That's where I'm gonna be at August 11 to August 11. And
it just occurred to me and thiswas by pure coincidence that hip
hop's birthday is in August andour podcasts birthdays in
August, rarely Our very firstepisode was August 16. of 2020
that still don't inspire me togo to the pump is August 11. of
1973

Anthony (20:08):
we Fabius.

Jeff (20:11):
We first got arrested five days after

Anthony (20:14):
five days ever. That's not inspiring me to go to this
fucking thing. I said, Well,that's the thing. I'm not going
to say now. I might I'm morelikely gonna say no, but I'm not
gonna say no right now. I'm justgonna like, let me see what the
where the tickets are where tosee that because they get some
dumb shit. Wait for the 300section. I'm like, for $50 and
then like I said, the EZ Pass isgoing into it. They're gonna
charge you $20 For tool bysending some shit in the mail.

(20:36):
You got to pay for parking likefor these niggas.

Jeff (20:41):
Man, let's move on and

Anthony (20:43):
put in a real fucking show. $50 I want everything I
want all $50 worth. I need toput walking up and across stage
back and forth for like an hour.
And she started 600 is gonna beOh, wow. That's a lot of Acts.
Yeah, no, I can see like, thatwill be some shit that will
fight if you stress it as like afestival over a couple of days.
But

Jeff (21:03):
is Yankee Stadium, you know what I'm saying? So I mean,
but then again, the fact thatthere, it's on a Friday, that
means the Yankees are gonna beaway that weekend. So they
probably don't know. And I wasplaying unless, you know, unless
they have some plan for likethat Saturday, where the stadium
is like, hey, we need you out ofhere by this time so we could
get ready for tomorrow's show,whatever. You know, if it's
gonna be organized and Yeah,they'll probably you know,

(21:26):
they'll probably have guyscoming to do one verse and get
the fuck off. I mean, they go atthe Grammys are like they do at
those types of awards show wherethey compress everything into
like a 10 minute set, you know,I mean, yeah,

Anthony (21:35):
but you get a motion but Yo, you ain't played my
shit. Like no, I got sevenminutes on the set dog. You're
gonna get some shit like ghostsand you're gonna get run and
that's it. I got two songs andI'm out. That's even a whole
song you get a verse from eachsong. I like it wouldn't like
you have a DJ he like he plays abeat he said like eight bars. He
played the next beat like eightBob like they never finished the

(21:57):
whole song. I shoulda did thatshit. But he got so many songs
like

Jeff (22:03):
we talked about this before. We talked about the John
Moran show before member and weknow what suspension is coming
because the commissioner AdamSilver released the statement
and he said we've uncovered afair amount of additional
information we probably couldhave brought it to a head now
but we've made the decision thatit would be unfair to these
players and these team toannounce that decision in the

(22:25):
middle of this series. Sothey're gonna wait till the NBA
Finals is over because theydon't want to distract from that
shit. And ending on hand tohammer down to his mother fuck
him off okay, you suspended forthe year or something to that
effect? I'm expecting some shitlike that.

Anthony (22:40):
I'm either gonna be half season a whole season one
of the two I probably say a halfI say he's

Jeff (22:46):
gonna be suspended for a season and they're not going to
let him play in the postseasonand we'll see you as next year.
Season the excessive though heythey're gonna make an example
out of them bro them wavingpistols on be making us look
foolish out here be

Anthony (22:58):
but in shoot nobody

Jeff (23:00):
was that that's that's that is that we're waiting for?

Anthony (23:03):
Yeah, like the punishment don't fit the crime.
Like you just some idiot in acar waving a gun around? I'm not
saying that. I see that often.
I'm saying that people do we runguns and cars, but it's worth
your whole season? Because Imean, I mean, I mean, okay, so
that should happen before yousaid you said you went to rehab.
We've got a little therapy gotthings sorted out us back in
eight games. All right, cool.

(23:26):
Now whatever was done before youtook the action to try to make
it proactive so on so forth. Soif you set out eight games,
let's say you make them sit out25 Maybe 30 Hell yeah. Like
yeah, like like Jermaine O'Nealgot like 2025 games for that
mountain the palace shit. Wrong.
I spent the rest of the seasonStephen Jack Gottesman the rest
of the season. You know why? Butit wasn't a crowd fight and love

(23:47):
focus like that. The punishmentfit the crime. Jermaine O'Neal
trying to get off the courtstealing all from people he got
25 Like it's still a bad act

Jeff (23:55):
house. Shame to they may read that should meet Reggie
retire. That was the best teamReggie Miller ever had. And it
was smoking two pistons that Iknew there was about to go all
the way to the finals. And thenthey do that they pull that
dumpster Reggie Miller was likefuck this man. I'm out of him.

Anthony (24:08):
They were smoking a fucking booth. They had Detroit
be a little kick in the ass allnight. But again, the crime has
the punishment has to fit thecrime. You got to suspend you
know Steven, you got to spin Ronfor all of that shit.

Jeff (24:22):
That was a squad bro. They had. They had O'Neill

Anthony (24:25):
Rondo test. Steven Jackson, Jamal Tinsley, Reggie
Miller, they have a lot of dudesbut the problem is that you just
started small for and startedshooting guard when this the
crap starts weighing oneverybody. Once you see that,
like all right, y'all gotta sitdown for the rest of the season.
Jemaine foot across the floorbecause some dudes coming out
Dang, he know he cracked ondude. He Got 20 Got 2025 So like

(24:48):
it was you know, it wasreasonable. He was in defense of
somebody and you shouldn't throwthe punch but he threw the punch
whatever. Jasna in a car, youknow, dance around with a gun.
He shot Nobody. Nobody shot atI'm not saying that but just
because you carry weapons gonnalead to violence but I'm saying
that I don't think there's justbeen a boy for the year like he
didn't didn't do anything likeextremely egregious. The only

(25:11):
thing he really made an ass outof isn't himself the only way he
gets to spend it for a yearbecause the league is like,
you're not fucking up the moneyand and the only reason they
might do that because theyreally really really do need
them like like it but you know

Jeff (25:23):
they probably thinking about investors and sponsorships
you know, I'm saying, thinkingabout monster ships are gonna be
like, yeah, Nike, whoever elsethey're gonna be like, yeah,
we're not fucking with you. Igot these dudes waving pistols.
Yeah, fucking a ball bag, youknow, I mean, we will pull the
sponsorships.

Anthony (25:37):
Like even right now, like the Jama rants are hard to
get. But it was like kind oflike, what carries was the shit.
And then all that shit went downwith him. And they kind of let
that part go now to kind ofdealing with this, like here,
and if they can't have it, butthey say you don't want to
suspend them for years becauseyou get a better story him
coming back. The Redemption teamgetting the shit together,

(25:58):
things like that. So you don'twant to offer them. But maybe
like that, maybe 25 games 30Something like that. But the
whole season for just being adumbass. It's a bit much.

Jeff (26:08):
All right. Before we go is the topic I want to discuss with
you right quick. Break becauserecently, my man Neil deGrasse
Tyson went on an interview. Andhe said that, scientifically
speaking, the white manresembles monkeys more than the

(26:29):
black man does. And you know,historically, that's been the
biggest racial slur, right? Oh,you know, black, you're an ape.
You're a monkey, whatever thefuck, right?

Anthony (26:37):
I know when that tops that but continue.

Jeff (26:40):
Well, yeah. And I called you and I mentioned this to you.
I'm like, Yo, did you see thisinterview? He was like, Nah, I
broke it down to you. And itoccurred to me that what we've
been calling racism this wholetime might actually be colorism.
And we mentioned we talked aboutcolorism when we spoke about
when we did the episode aboutwho can say the N word if you're

(27:02):
biracial, but if you're whiteskin, you can't say it but if
you're biracial, but if you'redark skinned, you're more
accepted right? That's colorismcorrect so when racist say oh,
you know a black man looks likea monkey or he looks like an
ape. That's colorism. Whybecause the only thing and
deGrasse Tyson you knowenlightened me to this the only

(27:22):
thing that they even have incommon is that that of their
darker complexion, right? Yes,everything else. The white man
resembles more of the fuckingmonkey.

Anthony (27:35):
Yeah, let's talk about it. Sure, man. You want you want
air and this

Jeff (27:39):
is scientifically speaking right? Who is more fucking
hairy? A white man or a blackman? And I'm sure no and I'm not
saying there's no hairy blackmen and everybody got hairy I'm
I'm hairy as fuck. That thischaracter is going well what I'm
saying is when you think ofHarry motherfuckers you don't

(28:00):
automatically think of a blackman I know I don't like like

Anthony (28:03):
Mike Syria Mike Syrian right which is weird, right?
It's a weird combination. Sorry,Mike. But he Yeah, like like
like it's just the the red hairis it just cracks me up when I'm
like you really is red here.
We're Oh shit.

Jeff (28:16):
Like historically. You know when you see black males or
black people in general. They'rehairy by choice right? They let
the beard grow. Whatever thefuck they let the afro grow.
That's you know by choice,right?

Anthony (28:27):
Yeah, mom was a choice, man. I was going both I need to
keep them here if I grew abeard,

Jeff (28:31):
correct. But you see these motherfuckers and they hairy is
fun. They back the arms, theshoulders, the chest, the legs.
Everything's fucking hairy. Yoliknuckles. That's that monkey
DNA. That's the ape likegenetics, right?

Anthony (28:47):
I think he just found the title of the show. That's
that monkey beer.

Jeff (28:53):
Sounds a little racist.
That might be a descent Is thatracist segment?

Anthony (28:56):
Hell no, you buddy or someone if you had a lot of
shows and that's that monkeyDNA. Like, I gotta see what the
fuck they talking about this?
All right. All right. Where yourDNA? Where are you taking me
with this? Seriously, I got thatmonkey DNA. Isn't

Jeff (29:08):
that a Kendrick moss?

Anthony (29:11):
It's stupid. Because, okay. Like, the problem is that
like, okay, let's say NeildeGrasse Tyson who's extremely
intelligent, he makes astatement. And he's saying I
have a purely scientific base,but purely nothing else. Like,
not trying to denigrate anybody.
Um, this is purely from ascientific fashion. We're saying

(29:32):
that if you look at the shapemodel and mode of monkeys, they
seem more befitting to whitepeople than anything else.
Correct. The thing that issaying about monkeys when it
comes to black people isn'tnecessarily the whole look of
the darker thing. It's like likethe the wider nose and the

(29:54):
bigger lips

Jeff (29:59):
and on bigger lips, let's talk about lips because monkeys
don't have big lips. Guess whatmonkeys and apes have they have
thin lips? Guess whohistorically has thin lips?

Anthony (30:13):
Talking about I hate white people.

Jeff (30:15):
No, no, no, no, these are facts. No, no, no, no, I'm
talking factual. Scientificallyright now I'm not talking about
no racism and BI is. No, I'm nottalking about none of that shit.

Anthony (30:25):
I'm with you.

Jeff (30:26):
I'm telling you that white people historically have thinner
lips than black and brownpeople.

Anthony (30:34):
Is that correct?
Guessing so does that mean thathe can whistle better?

Jeff (30:38):
I don't know. That sounds like a racist comment. And what
I'm saying is monkeys and apeshave thin lips. As another
example of how they're moreclosely resemble the white man.
And then another thing. You'veseen those videos right? Where
monkeys are like, picking eachother's lice and eating them
shits. Like two three of thembehind each other just eating

(31:00):
each other's lice. Yeah. Guesswho historically has more lice
in their head than black andbrown folks? This is fact right
now I'm spitting is a stats Thisis statistically

Anthony (31:13):
look. You want to ride this wave dog? I don't know fat
dog.

Jeff (31:18):
I'm telling you statistics broke. The white man.
Statistically, contracts lice.
This year more than the blackand brown man does

Anthony (31:31):
this show some 5% above the fuck boy. I'm about to put a
curfew on this shit by to getwild. Fucking brother Akbar.
Rose over here. That's thefucking glasses and shit. Like
the book says that the eye herelies to say Hey, brother, you
know a license disease in yourhead that seeped into your mind.

(31:54):
That means the pointlessness ofthe white man's like, Fuck, man
gray. This

Jeff (31:59):
is not even an anti white.
This is not even an anti whiteepisode. I'm not trying to spew
anti white rhetoric. Here's thething that is hitting you with
scientific and statisticalfacts. I know. But you sound
like a white person saying thatbesides the color of their skin,
the white man is resemblesmonkeys more than the black man
does. Therefore, andfurthermore, we should

(32:24):
immediately or not as a racistpeople should immediately go to
the ape and the monkey and thechimpanzee. This and racism
towards blacks, the showeliminate that automatically.
You know, this is like becauseit's not factual. It's not based

(32:44):
on anything factual.

Anthony (32:47):
This is like reverse capacity. Like, it's like it's
not like a white person wilingout. It's like, it's a person of
color making a white person'sargument. It's like the kind of
like, why because like, like,you know, you know, black people
make up most of the prisonpopulation, which is technically
true, didn't really get to theroot behind it. Like a whole
thing of like, you know, whitepeople resemble monkeys more.
And I'm like, Alright, let'stake that. To be fair, let's

(33:08):
take it to be scientific fact.
What do we do about anything?
Like, just because that's thebeauty of like being white,
like, even if that should happento be 100% True. The seven
called Black people monkeys andthrow bananas at them anyway. We
won't judge what the black likewas, I think the guy thing,
fussiness Jr, something likethat. He's a man of color. He

(33:29):
plays soccer in a EuropeanLeague and I think he got to my
throne again for saying somekind of racist statements and
when a game smart threw a bananaon the field something else like
that. So what is happeningthrough the banana field he was
like hold up your resemblemonkeys more than I do. So you
should have this banana back.
This is more befitting to you.
Now I'm not saying that we someflush it I think it might be

(33:50):
kind of insane. But that's thekind of argument that we're
having. But if we're saying thatsomeone is something more like
this than that, so you probablyshouldn't be calling these
people that Brexit isn't alexicon like Nick is like like
monkeys is going to be therelike they just can't help
themselves. They shouldn't sayit but they do to reverse back a
couple years ago. Remember therewas a big uproar when it was

(34:12):
that that the little black kidin the hoodie from the gap and
it was like like like like biglikely like like biggest was
like biggest monkey in thejungle something like that. And
people got rural offended by it.
And like I get it I know whereit's coming from but that seems
kind of whatever in regards tothis but it happened so just
because someone proves to bescientifically true doesn't mean

(34:34):
that it's going to just erasetheir racist intent or the
fascist people are going to useit they're gonna say wow, she
could we want to say wow shitand they don't said all I said
the problem with like, withracist white people that their
their racism is just old, butthey don't come up with anything
new. You're remaking the sameold shit and calling us monkeys
for everyone to keep calling usback. You can't think of

(34:55):
anything better has mothershipback in the day spirit checker,
porch monkey some just just somewildly illiterate creative shit.
Now you're gonna kind of go nogo back to you know the same old
classic so just because NeildeGrasse Tyson said that you
know why people are like monkeysdoesn't mean they're not gonna
stop calling us monkey so it'sgood information to have and
let's start calling themmonkeys. And they give like what

(35:17):
your monkey note and I'm notdoing that.

Jeff (35:22):
I thought it was interesting when you know that
it is Tyson would bring

Anthony (35:25):
that up. It is I'm not doing that because you would
like a black white party monkeylike no man, you're a monkey
behave like Nah, man, you knowwhat your Nigar see? And then
she starts escalating. He's kindof you hit

Jeff (35:37):
that and then you hit a pit?

Anthony (35:39):
Yeah, what, what, what, what, what just is just a
misconstrued piece of knowledge.
No one needs to call anybodyanything. My whole thing is that
don't call it nobody shit unlessyou're ready to fight. And most
people see that in a crowd ofpeople or people behind them.
It's gonna have a back, I don'tsee somebody's walking the
trees, just saying racialepithets left and right, the
people because fates have to berun. They generally don't happen

(36:01):
that way. So if the general ruleis even if deGrasse Tyson again
says this thing isscientifically proven to be
true, perfectly fine. My thingis that unless you know how to
fight, you probably shouldn'tsay to certain people, because
either you're going to kicktheir ass or they're gonna kick
your ass, but somebody's gonnaend up in a fight depending on
the class or the person thatyou're dealing with. So if you

(36:21):
don't say it, you won't get hit,but we talked you you get hit.
So Neil deGrasse taught ussomething you also taught us
like, Don't fucking fight youmight look at

Jeff (36:33):
but yeah, man. Just remember that the debate is lost
when slander is the tool of theloser. We're going to try to
give you something most thisweek as well. Shout out to the
culture crew. The culture

Anthony (36:50):
bye monkeys
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