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July 10, 2023 43 mins

We welcome special guest editor and producer, Razir Jae, who once upon a time produced a rival podcast to The Culture. We discuss the fall outs of said podcast and the conundrum of having business partners wanting to reap the benefits of your hard work without wanting to go through the struggle with you.

Venture with us down the rabbit hole of podcast production, through the highs and lows, the hurdles and triumphs. Our special guest lays bare the unmatched rewards of launching his own website, the blood, sweat, and tears that went into producing his own music and videos, and the necessity of investing in the right tools to bring a vision to life. Brace yourself for an open and earnest discussion about the perils of collaboration, the importance of editing, and the tricky navigation of YouTube's trademark claims.

As we round out the episode, we dive headfirst into a debate that has set many a tongue wagging - who are the top five rappers, dead or alive? Razir gives us his list.
Get ready for some hard truths about authenticity in friendships, the delicate dance of trust in relationships, and the fine line between loyalty and business. We end on a note of controversial rankings and the perennial question – where does Eminem fit in the grand scheme of things? Join us for an episode that promises to be as thought-provoking as it is entertaining.

Topics Discussed:

  • Should somebody be allowed back into a business venture if they weren't part of the vision or process? 
  • Everybody isn't cut out for podcasting
  • Razir's top 5 rappers 
  • Best rap groups of all time

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Jeff (00:00):
Yo, yo, yo, yo yo.
We back another episode of theculture.
Like Ulthura is your boy, jeffFrom here with my man Ant, was
good homie.
We have very special gueststoday.
This gentleman is the owner andcreator of RazirTVcom as

(00:20):
T-I-V-I-R-A-Z-I-R-T-I-V-Icom.
Yes, sir, and there's a coupleof things I want to talk about
before we get into.
You know everything, but youcan also find him at
dailymotioncom.
Slash Razir underscore TV.
You got a YouTube page.
All the links are going to beon the show notes.
Y'all check them out.
My man, we call him Raz theRazir, razirj.

(00:40):
What up, homie?

Raz (00:41):
What's up?
What's up?
AKA, the Queens kid in thebuilding.
Thanks for putting me on thespot, so I appreciate that I
gave me a slot.

Jeff (00:50):
Tell us a little bit about yourself before we get into the
real nitty gritty.

Raz (00:54):
Um real quick, you know, from New York, from Queens,
corona, queens, yes, sir.
Um been there for like 20 years.
Um, i got out, um joined themilitary for about three years
And then, after that, moved toFlorida, been to Miami for a
little bit And then I gotmarried.
I came to Orlando, got divorcedin 2006.

(01:15):
Damn your statistic.
No, i got married in 2006.
Then I got divorced in 2011.
And then, ever since then, i'vebeen stuck in Orlando And right
now I'm kind of sick of Florida.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
to be honest with you , I hear that a lot.

Jeff (01:27):
I actually hear that a lot from people that have been out
there for a while.

Raz (01:29):
Yo, the traffic, the population, the people moving,
what you all moving down herefor?
Hey, listen, everything's socongested now.
It's like what?
because of Disney.
Listen, they didn't take Disneyout of this shit.
Take Disney somewhere else.
Move that shit somewhere else,listen that's the thing I kind
of huh, how's the racism?

Jeff (01:46):
What's?

Raz (01:47):
that.

Jeff (01:47):
You know, I hear that a lot.
Oh, um yeah.

Raz (01:50):
There's.
Listen, they try to keep thatshit on the ground but I peep it
.
You know, i see what's going onAnd um, but you know it's a lot
of toleration, you know,especially in the workplace.
You know, especially further upnorth.
You know Jacksonville, georgia,alabama, of course you know,
but you go further south past.
You know Orlando was morediverse.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
You know, obviously, you got Miami, you got Fort Laud
.
Um, you got, um, you know, aBoca Raton.
You know it's a lot morerelaxed.
As for you know, everybody'scultured, everybody's, you know,
together trying to unify, andyou know, just be open to the
mind and it'd be diverse, youknow so.

Jeff (02:26):
And I met you.
I was going to say I met you ina fantasy football league.
Is that correct?

Raz (02:31):
Yeah, uh, i believe was the basketball was the first one, i
think right.

Jeff (02:36):
I think that was the first one And now that I think about
it, that's the same way I metAunt.

Raz (02:41):
I'm through a fantasy league.

Jeff (02:44):
So now I'm posing the question about myself Like is
that a little bit racist of meThat all my black friends, i
meet them in fantasy footballleagues and shit, like is that a
little bit racist?

Raz (02:53):
Not at all.
Not at all.
It's just like you know, afantasy is it's.
It's why it's like you know,everybody's involved in it It's
somehow a lot of people can belike, for instance, football.
You know I'm saying you got.
You know you got yourcharacters, you got your coca,
you got your race white folksthere.
But yet when it comes aboutfootball, when you talk about
football, you come together.
About football, go watch thegame, you go to the event.
You know you watch it on TV.

(03:15):
All of a sudden race racism justgot, gets the spell for some
reason, like everybody comingtogether, everybody watching the
game Listen, majority of theblack folks obviously.
Everybody know we made 75, 80%of the league on both.
You know, nfl and NBA.
You know I'm saying we'removing up, obviously with with
MLB and all that stuff.
But you know it's funny how wecan have certain functions come
together and life itself is kindof disposed.

(03:38):
We just kind of excited to bein the midst of the excitement,
the entertainment of sports.
But you know, once that's over,all of a sudden people go oh
shit, i'm a racer, let me goback to what I was doing before.
That's some crazy shit.
I don't understand it And I washis ignorance, but at the end
of the day at least you know.

Jeff (03:53):
You know at there's some point I was going through this
turning that we can sharetogether, I know, but anyways,
the reason why I got I wanted toget you on the phone or on this
on this episode was, Yeah,there's a topic I wanted to
discuss and I talked to himabout it.
I was watching an episode ofblack in crew, New York.
I don't know if you guys watchthat show.

Raz (04:13):
I heard of it.
I haven't watched it yet.
I got it on, i feel, on mycloud right now.

Jeff (04:17):
I haven't peeped it yet, but so black in crew, you know
black on tattoo.
Basically company conglomerateand the head dude or Caesar, you
know he got fired from the showand he, you know he got.
I don't know if he's in jail orwhat.
Well, that's why he okay,that's why he Yeah, because the
video surface of him beating hisdog or whatever, And then you
know, that's a.

Ant (04:35):
That's a big offense in this country.

Jeff (04:36):
So you know he got locked up or that or whatever, whatever
, Anyway so they're stillthey're still shooting the show
without him.
But they got the rest of thecast right.
And one of the other dudes whobecause it's three co-owners it
was Caesar, puba and fuckingTeddy.
So Puba, he was like yo, let'sdo our own thing.
You know, we don't need Caesar,we could keep the brand going.
Let's start up let's.
You know, let's open up our owntattoo shops, all right.

(04:58):
So he had the vision, he had aplan, right.
So he started telling it to allthe other crew members.
And you know, teddy, one of thedudes, he was like I'm down
with you.
The other dude, spider, who's atattoo artist.
He's been down with them sinceday one.
He was kind of iffy about it,right.
So he's like I don't know.

Ant (05:12):
You know, because he, you know he was a fan and I get it.

Jeff (05:14):
You're afraid.
You're afraid of the unknown.
You know what I'm saying.
You don't want to dive intosomething that you don't know if
it's going to work or not.
So he did his own thing.
Puba started opening up shopsand you know, when he sees it
starting to work out, then thenthe spider dude comes back and
he's sitting down with him andhe's like yo, let me be down
with you now.
And he's like nah, bro, youwasn't with me.
You know the, the basically youknow how they say you wasn't

(05:35):
with me shooting in the gym,right, right, right.
So when I had the vision, youwasn't you know what I'm saying.
You wasn't trying to fuck withme because you was unsure, you
wasn't believing in my vision.
Now that you see that it'smaterializing, now you want to
jump in.
He's like nah, i'm good bro.
So they had a big, you knowfighting, a big argument and
whatever.
And I'm big on that.
I'm big on.
If you wasn't with me shootingin the gym, then don't come and

(05:55):
try to take advantage now, whenthe shit's working right.
And I say all of this to saybecause there was a situation
and I've mentioned it on here acouple of times.
I don't like to talk about it alot and I won't talk about it
again after this episode Butwhen we first started the
podcast, it was supposed to be athree-man thing.
It was supposed to be me and andOne more person that we're

(06:18):
gonna leave unnamed.
We're not gonna mention thisDude.
What happened was literally aweek before we launched this
podcast, august of 2020 a Weekbefore he was like nah, i can't
do it.
I got some shit going on, i gotfamily issues, i'm going
through some.
I cool, no problem, go work,you know, go handle your, your

(06:40):
family or whatever issues.
You got your business And youknow we'll catch you down the
line.
All right, we dropped a weeklater, first episode, me, and,
and it was called the top five.
We talked about the top fiverappers of all time.
We talked about the top fiveNBA players of all time.

Ant (06:56):
That's what that?

Jeff (06:57):
immediately the drop drops .
He's hitting me up, right.
He's like yo, i heard yourepisode.
That shit is dope.
Yo, i like what you guys aredoing.
I'm trying to know if I couldbe down with y'all.
Let me, let me.
Can I keep?
can I get back in?
right, i'm like he calls me onthe phone.
I'm like yo, wait a minute.
But just days ago you told meyou couldn't, you couldn't fuck
with us, like you had shit to do.

(07:17):
You know you had something youhad to take care of.
Yeah, nah, i'm good now, thoughI could jump.
I was like, nah, we're gonna gowith a two-man crew.
You feel me Like thank you, butno thanks type of shit.
Like at this point we just youknow two man, i think two, three
men would be crowded and then Itold them this and I don't know
if this is where the beefstarted between me and This
gentleman but I told him likenah, we're gonna go with only a

(07:39):
two-man booth, but you'rewelcome to come on as a guest
any time.
I Don't know if you took thatpersonal right.
I don't know if you took thatsome type of It was like nah,
that's all good, it's whatever.
Piece.
Boom.

Raz (07:50):
We love you.

Jeff (07:51):
There you go, personal right there I piece, boom, we
left it like that.
Next thing I know is he makeshis own podcast And he named it
Brooklyn's finest.
And again, this is the onlytime I'm gonna mention this shit
here.
Again, i'm not mentioning that,the name of that shit again,
yeah, he dropped his own podcast.
He made only about threeepisodes, didn't work out and

(08:14):
And I heard his shit.
I heard his shit.
You know I'm saying I wanted tohear, i'm not wasn't gonna hate
, i was like a me here.
You know I'm saying so.
Whatever couple of listeners hehad, i was one of them and
Immediately when I heard thispodcast is inspired by and for
the culture, i was like wait aminute, that shit sounds
familiar.
When I heard dude saying theslogan on his podcast, i was

(08:36):
like alright, he's definitelyeither biting or taking shots or
jabbing.
But anyway, i mentioned allthat to say because the
gentleman we have on rise, heactually produced said podcast.
He was behind the scene.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Was in the middle of a civil war that he ain't even
know about.
Yeah, and listen, it wasn'teven like he do want to give me
a percent, he wanted to give meless than that.

Jeff (09:05):
If anything, you doing more work than he was.
You doing all the work I.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Like I said, you know , for him to go all the script
and all the writing, all theprep, all get all that knowledge
together, you know, get thetopics together, the subject
learning, all that I mean that'sa lot in itself But at the end
of the day for me to push thatshit out there online, that's it
is a lot of work.
I mean, like I was sayingbefore, like a little piece I I
hit you up with yesterday To me30 minutes, that little track.

(09:31):
I did that little one minutetrack.
I was like 30 minutes of work,leave it for me.
You know, other people canprobably drop it and do that
shit, like in 10 minutes or so.
But you know this is something Ienjoyed doing.
I love doing it, i love tryingto, you know, mix music and, and
you know, just make theselittle video and shows that I
just finished Launching mywebsite last week, and this I

(09:52):
don't believe a coincidence, butI just launched last week.
Then here you go hitting me upyesterday and I was telling you
what I was doing And all of asudden now we're talking about
the same thing, what I try to do.
But oh boy, back then it'severything just line, and now I
was laughing about it just forme How everything just worked
out the way it do.

Jeff (10:10):
And I'll leave it to you, man, talk about it though.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Oh, it's like.
I appreciate that.
I appreciate that, um, so, whatit is, it's like, um, i tried
to, like I said, do that podcast, get on the the whole.
I like something aboutproducing videos and putting it
together, editing, cutting and,you know, put an animation tax

(10:34):
and, you know, put the beatbehind it, the backdrop, all
that stuff I'm into.
But I'm just getting into itfresh, i'm brand new.
I'm wrong.
That shit is like wrong for me,like I'm going, i'm just moving
along as I go And I figure, ifI really enjoy doing this, i
can't go half-assed on theprogram that I use.
So I go all out the program thatI use, even for the music.

(10:56):
When I used to mix music backin Miami, you know I I'll voice
a lot.
I don't even want to put me ondoing old ed DJ stuff and mixing
and all that, and I purchasedthat licensing to get that, um,
that software on my computer tomix music on my computer.
Um, but something about it.
Just I just enjoy my creativityas far as how I mix music, how

(11:17):
I, you know, compose a video,even if it's just a simple intro
, like I did for you yesterday,like I dropped yesterday, and
the website is just basicallythose that are wanting someone
to Create an intro for whateverA channel page that they have,
that they don't have the time.
When you can't find a person toTake the time to make an intro

(11:37):
for them, i can just dosomething for them, trying to
help them along the way.
Um, like I said, i'm completelybrand new to this.
I don't, i mean, this is a verylike I said yesterday, it's
very, very super niche, top ofthing, a type of venture that
I'm pursuing.
I don't know if it's gonnamanifest anything down the line,
but I know one thing when youhit me up yesterday and you

(12:01):
asked me reshaps for my services, i was elated to help you.
I was like this is just There'ssomething about it.
It's ignites me to go ahead anddo stuff like that, because my
job, my 8 to 5, that's not it,bro, and I already told myself.
So when January hit this year,i was like I knew that I can't
do that, i'm not going for itand I'm trying to find some kind

(12:25):
of way to make some kind ofincome online.
How can I take what I'm doing,what I enjoy doing, what I love
to do, how can I flip that, youknow, and make some kind of
revenue stream come my way.
I don't know if this is it, um,i don't know if it's going to
lead me to a different directionThat would enable me start
making some income on the side,but I'm trying to grind it out,

(12:48):
i'm trying to learn as I go, toend up these videos to see you
just get some more informationand just educate myself on this.
Basically, this, the Saturatedarea that I'm in when it comes
to trying to produce, and evenif it's just simple intro, you
know it takes a lot of work.
You know, even the minute introthat I did with that easy joint

(13:09):
that I hit you with that wasdope.
That, right there took four,that's it four hours because I
have to cut all that shit.
I have to cut a bunch of stuff.
Bring in my own work, composeall that, get the track together
, lay it, sink everythingtogether in line and then put my
intro in front of that.
I mean everything go, you know,string line with that.
I guess, like I said yesterday,if you think it's something I

(13:32):
want to get your feedback like,if there's something you think
that It's not really gonna flooris not in there, you just give
it up.
I'm okay.
I can open the criticism.
You know That's how I end upour role, so there's something
that is out of direction Ishould be pursuing.
I just got to go.
You know what's the next thingfor me, you know, but I know.

Jeff (13:49):
I told you was dope.
I'm just trying to figure outhow you managed to put these
shits up on YouTube withoutgetting hit with no trademark
claims.
You know say you told me youhad some tricks.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
I'm gonna have to pick your brain Maybe off the
air, but it doesn't work.

Jeff (14:11):
I'm gonna have to make sure you jump on fiber too, bro,
make sure you're making accounton fiber.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
There's a dude.
There's a dude this morning.
He mentioned fiber.
What he does?
he uses chat GPT.
What he does?
he goes out, he finds like somekind of trending news article,
right, he copies it, he paste itin chat GPT and revises it and
kind of makes it Rewarded in away where it doesn't right any

(14:39):
kind of plagiarism.
Once he does that, he posts iton Fiber and then he puts in a
mouth for us.
Hey, i can write for you.
I can go for whatever it is.
Hit me up.
I can be 50, 50 bucks anarticle or 12 cents, 50 cents a
word.
I mean I don't.
I mean I.
I appreciate what they're doing.
They're trying to find ways touse the tools at hand that are

(15:00):
free for their benefit.
That's something that I wouldgravitate to, because I'm not in
that article, in blogging thatworld.
But I can appreciate it.
I can still learn from that.
I just opened up my own ChatGPT account last week and I
thought that that's what Iactually used to do the
descriptions on all the videosthat I post on my.
Yes, i Compare what I wroteversus what DPC did and it's

(15:28):
like night and day.
I don't even have the words inthe book.

Jeff (15:34):
Going back to the editing of the podcast.
I always joke that.
You know that.
I always tell people that theeasiest part is me jumping on
and recording for a half hour.
An hour is after I turn the micoff that I'm editing, putting
the shit together, trying tocome up with the title, trying
to come up with the description,putting it out there.
To me That's the hardest part.
I always tell people that onceI'm done recording, they're like
yo, you done this, be out.
I'm like yo, wait a minute, nowI got it.
Now.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
The real work starts for me, you know So you do all
that, you do all that.

Ant (16:01):
Yeah, i do all that, you know people be like oh, you
should hire somebody, you shouldhire somebody I don't like.

Jeff (16:08):
I don't like hiring people .
I don't like hiring peoplebecause I like.
You know I know what I like, iknow how I want it to sound.
You know I'm saying, i know how.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yeah, they saw your approval.
If you don't like it, i canreally do it until you like it.
You know it's like this for you.
It's just for your podcast.
I want to make sure that youhappy.
You know I'm saying so.
I understand that.
But I always thought you had aproduction team behind you.
I didn't think it was as youand aunt doing the whole thing.
It looks good, it looksprofessional, it was great.
I mean, that's what happened.

Jeff (16:37):
But, tell us what happened , real quick, what happened to
the Brooklyn finest podcast?
because I know I mean thestatistics show that the
majority of podcasts don't gopast a few months.
You know I'm saying, but youknow you know he wanted he
wanted.
He wanted to piggyback off ofmy shit, create his own shit,
and it only lasted like threeepisodes.
So what happened with that shitFive?

Speaker 3 (16:59):
episodes Yeah, is he in real estate?
what?

Jeff (17:12):
the fuck does he know about home mortgaging bro?

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Bro.
Well, like it goes back to whatI said in the beginning, like
he got to do that homework, hegot to, you know, get the
research done, right that shitout, figure how he's gonna work,
how he's gonna present itonline.
And, of course, i got a do thebook that shit together and
present it out to the masses.
So What happened was the samething.
It was like family, i ain't gottime.

(17:36):
You know, i got all the shitgoing on, yada, yada, yada, and
I'm thinking.
I'm thinking to my own.
I told straight out Yo, youthink these podcast, all these
people, that police people thatbe doing that they married, they
ain't got family, you know.
They ain't got shit to do.
On the back end, like you know,you're not the only one.
Ain't no special about you Thatseparates you, differentiates
you from somebody else as far asyour life being busy, someone

(17:57):
else's life being big.
They find a way to dedicate thetime to do this.
You got to find a way todedicate time to do it if you
really want to do.
I know I wanted to do it.
That's how it's pushed so hardfor it.
I mean, even you know ourhomeboy.
You know II I'm not gonna saythis one name.
But II, ii was pressing like yo, yeah, i gotta stay on this.
But he wasn't.
He was making a scene like he,the president of the country, he
running the country, so he gotout all that.

(18:18):
Well, this is God.
You came to me, you know, and Ipresented to you what I could
contribute to the podcast andwhen he saw that, you know, he
came alive with it.
Oh, this shit, live, let's,let's, let's think up, you know.
But then, of course, at thatpoint he didn't want to give me
50%, he won't give me half ofthat, i mean less than half of
that.
But anyway, i'm sorry short, ilost my, i lost my motivation,

(18:41):
right, i was like, okay, youain't for this, i'm just keep my
shit to myself.
I'm gonna do my own thing andif anybody see me and they want
to reach out and you think I canbe a benefit, you know, give
them the mark, push em up,service with them.
I'll do that.
But I wouldn't even pursue oneamount of time.
I was kind of disgusted aboutit because the way it ended left
a sour taste in my mouth, so Ikind of walked away from

(19:03):
completely.
I wasn't even thinking aboutdoing videos and mixing music
and all that kind of just letthat alone.
I was like, you know, just, heain't the one for me to link up
and then try to do this.
So I think, well, it was nothim then.
Obviously, for me personally, idon't.
I don't speak in public, idon't, i don't do podcast, i
don't.
I'm not, you know, i'm not outthere like that.
So it's something for me that Ican do on my own.

(19:24):
All I can do is all the backend of all the stuff behind the
scenes.
Yeah, that's why I thrive, youknow.
But I figured, you know what,at the end of the day, you know,
since I do have this smalllevel of skill set where I can
actually Produce these introsand mix a little music, i
figured, you know, let me justcreate a website, see if people

(19:44):
like it.
They'll take to it.
They say, hey, you know what?
I want to use your service.
Can you just drop me a littlesomething?
something I said, sure, noproblem, go ahead and whatever
you want to donate, just donate.
So that's where I decided tolaunch my website last week.
This isn't, even if it doesn'ttake off on the eye, all these
sites, all these platforms thatI'm on as far as Daily motion, a

(20:05):
rumble, what's the other one?
not, you too, but there'sanother one, can't remember
right now.
These are all ad-basedplatforms.
So as people view it, you know,obviously the, the companies
you know they, i'll see providea A level of revenue to the
actual platform.
Of course they trickle downsomething a couple peanuts to me
But obviously as you generate,thousands of thousands of views

(20:26):
starts to accumulate and thenyou start building.
So I got to continue a post andkeep posting and keep posting
and see if any of those thingsare going to hit.
What's one isn't.
If one hits, then the rest ofthe stuff is gonna first.
That's what.
That's what I'm hoping.
Yeah, you know, right now theJay Z join is the number one
most watched viewed Video onYouTube right now for my from my

(20:49):
YouTube channel.
So I'm hoping people beinterested to see the other
content that I have.
I mean, that's that's, that's,that's kind of The brain behind
what I'm trying to do.

Jeff (21:06):
Do you think that?
do you think that you know thatcaused the falling out between
you guys?
like the podcast not notworking out or whatever.
Like the beginning, because oneof the things me and I talked
about when we first Well, my bad, because when we first made our
podcast, like that's one of thethings me and I talk like we
don't want this to fuck up ourRelationship.
You know I'm saying becausewe've seen it before, like where

(21:29):
shit don't work out and all ofa sudden you know that fucks up
your friendship.
You know I'm saying yeah, istart having a sour taste for
each other and y'all start.
You know, yeah, we've seen thatshit.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
That should happen to me before, yeah, but there was
no falling.
I make sure there was nofalling out.
I said, listen, you know you,you, you want, you want to run
that excuse.
As far as you so busy you can'tdedicate.
Fine, that's not gonna fracturewhat we got, you know.
So I let it go, i let asidemoves like this, you know, but
something completely contrary tothat, where the falling out

(22:01):
happened between him and me andI don't know if you want to
discuss that.
You know a lot on your podcast,but it's something completely
different.
Like I mentioned yesterday,eating, those little something
about it.
But I can kind of put,summarize basically what two
places that you know.
Um, i try to come at peoplewith respect, with integrity,

(22:22):
and I try to be real with myshit, like I'm.
I'm a real lay back, i'm a cool, chill person.
I don't like drama, i don'tlike stress in my life.
Um, you know, the thing is likeyou know, um, you know He Kind
of started showing The real sideof him as far.
He came at me once talking aboutI don't judge, i don't do this,

(22:43):
i don't do that, i don't dothat the same person that's
talking about.
You know, i got your back thisnet.
It's the same one talking aboutyou back spreading rumors and
talking to being fake.
You know, once I kind of seethat now, all of a sudden,
you're not going to really lookat my shirt.
You know, this is real, this isreal.
The back of it says be Rightand the back of it says be fake,

(23:03):
free.
And that's what I'm about.
What's that is it?
I know We've been, i've beenrocking for him for for a few
years.
But you know, tom Comet justshows, showed everything at the
end of the day, as far who youare as a person and
unfortunately, when I realizedhe was the one that was, you
know showing this fake side andjudging me on everything And

(23:24):
it's like wait a minute, youwere the same person I was
talking about.
That you know.
You understand me as That's whoI am as a human being.
You understand where I'm comingfrom, you can relate.
But now, all of a sudden, you'retalking all this behind my back
.
You tell me I'm the fate andjudging me, putting judgment
upon me.
That's what fracturedeverything.
I think you know what I swipeleft, swipe left one that day,

(23:45):
good, um, so now it's justListen.
This is an unfortunate thing.
I've been through it before.
Um see, the thing is for me isthat when I present myself, i
know you and and don't know mefrom adam, but For what you do
know of me is what you're goingto see every day, every time we
interact, or whether it be todayand two years from now, i'm the

(24:07):
same dude.
I come at you, cool.
I come at you clean, chris, asthat.
You need, you need my assistant.
You want to just talk, you justwant to hang out and just, you
know, go to the spot and eat upsomething.
I'm down, you know.
I'm just really about thisbeing about Friendship, about
people brought about solidrelationships, just being just
being able to rock with someone100%.

(24:27):
You know what I'm saying.
I got a little time wrong on myscreen.
What's that?

Ant (24:32):
Is this a screenshot?
What's that?

Speaker 3 (24:33):
mean.

Ant (24:34):
Uh, just don't worry about it, it's not important.
We good, we good, we good.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
I did a good something like shit, No, no no,
no, no, you ain't coming tocrime, man.
You can't, yeah, um, so listen,i can appreciate the fact that
you trust me enough That youwould actually allow me to be on
your podcast.
You don't I guess you don'tknow me, but yet you see
something about me that'sgenuine that you would allow me
to be on your on your podcastand kind of do this show and,

(25:01):
like I said, listen all theinteractions that we've had
since the fantasy shit.
I come at you.
What respect?
100%.
You know I always give it afriendship vibe.
Like you know, i don't got nomouth for hate towards anybody.
I don't judge nobody.
Listen, that's this is how.
I'm a simple dude, you know,i'm really simple, i'm really
easygoing and that and peoplemay take that as a sign of

(25:25):
weakness Because I'm too nice,this that Listen, i do have.
Certain things like that can getme to a dark place really quick
.
I mean, there's like fivethings in my life That's core to
me my faith, my freedom, myliberty, my peace and my
happiness.
You kind of fracture any ofthat stuff.
I get dark really quick andwhat I learned, especially with

(25:46):
the situation here, is the factthat you know, can I find a way
to take myself out of theequation?
Because if I can, that I'mdoing you a favor, i'm doing us
a favor, because you don't wantto see my dark side, because
once I go dark I go all in and Ihate that.
So I bet I pray about it.
That's why I try to bring peaceand that kind of atmosphere

(26:08):
That's really calm, cool andcollected.
People that can, that cancontribute to the top of person
that I am.
So I said right there All right?

Jeff (26:19):
So let me just pose the question, because the theme of
this episode is you know, shoulda friend or a person doesn't
have to be a friend Be allowedback into your venture?
you know, if they wasn't partof the vision, if that makes
sense, right?
And I'll start with ant Let.
Yeah, i want to hear ants takeon this shit Like if you wasn't

(26:39):
with me shooting in the gym.
So you be allowed back in oneonce the shit is flourishing
hell, no, that's like.

Ant (26:46):
You know, if someone Like four guys get together like we
have an idea for this company,it's going to sound pretty wild,
but what's gonna do?
gonna be able to go online andsearch things, and you know,
we're gonna help out people by,you know, creating easier ways
for them to get to places and soon, so forth, to find
information online.
Alright, cool, what you gonnacall it.

(27:07):
Oh, we were thinking Google.
Nah, man, that sounds stupid.
I ain't doing that now, when Ishould turn up to be this multi
being dollar company.
Like you know, i was in theroom when they were talking
about it.
Yeah, but you didn't sign thedata line.
You didn't believe in thevision and believe we come for
the problem with creatives inthe thing.
We want to do something foryourself, we want to branch out

(27:29):
and do something.
You know in your mind and yoursoul you're taking a very
calculated risk, like I don'tknow what I'm doing, but I feel
it's in my heart to heart.
This is something that I can doto Help me personally,
financially, of course, but makea significant impact and also
help another's.
Now, if you don't want to be apart of that, it's fine, but you
only get one chance throughthat door.

(27:50):
You don't get another one,can't like well, you know I, you
know.
And the funny thing is thatthey will come back to you.
When it's going good, yeah, ifit's successful, oh, yeah, i
want to go back on that.
If it's a failure, didn't likeoh, i'm nobody going down with
the sink and shit.
Yeah, no one doing that.
I know, i know this is notworking, but I still believe in
I'm a jump on.

(28:11):
No one ever jumps on the sinkand ship.
But you know, rising tideraises all boats.
You want to be on that joint.
So if someone was jumping afterthe fact, after everyone has
kind of made it clear and youput your heart and soul into
this, you can have this vision.
And if I can't say you on thatvision right then and there,
then you wasn't supposed to be apart of it in the first place.
So my feeling is nah, hell, no,either you in at the bottom

(28:34):
floor, but when I take theelevator up, there's no more
room for you.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Understand.
Yeah, i see what you're saying.
I guess for me it's justslightly different because,
Depending on the situation andthe timing, timing is everything
right.
So if someone comes up to meand says, hey, i got this going
on about to drop this whatever,and I got, i got legitimate shit
that, like yo, i can't even doit right now because I got this

(29:00):
shit going on and I, you knowand I can vouch for that shit,
like like this is something Igotta really take care about the
moment and you happen to popoff when you launch.
If I, if I come at you, say, hey, now I got the time, can I come
back?
It's not because of the factthat you blew up, because now I
was able to alleviate theproblems or the issues that I
had initially.
Now can I come back in now?
I think something about I ain'tgot time.

(29:20):
No, i got shit going on at thehouse, i got put, i got put my
garage in order.
Don't explain you.
I can't expect to be comingback in, but that's my excuse,
that's my line.
Yeah, so right there with andI'm 100%, but it just depends on
the timing and a certain set ofthat person that you trying to
bring in.

Ant (29:38):
Look is.
It is really simple thing.
You can say something one wayand I either take it as a reason
or a ticket as an excuse.
If there's a reason, i get it.
If it's an excuse, i can't likepeople do the all the time like
I, like I can't.
You can reason with someone'sbehavior, but that don't mean
you got to excuse it.
If someone's coming into aparticular venture, i'm, like

(29:58):
you said, like circumstances dohappen, but it's not like you
just disappear from like the set.
It was like I gotta do what Igotta do right now, cuz this
takes importance and I really dobelieve in this and whatever,
whichever way I can to supportit To that point, if y'all need
me to market or talk to it aboutpeople, all right, cool.
I know I can't be Invested inthe way you guys are, but I do

(30:20):
believe in it.
That's a reason you're sayingthat.
You know, man, no, i'm switchingjobs.
I got gout and I got a fix.
That's an excuse, then it's ano.
It's how you frame it to me.
As long as you give me a real,legit reason, like I get it, and
you're still down with theprogram, all right bet.
But if you give me some kind ofexcuse, then it's a no 100 100.

Jeff (30:42):
That's real.
I don't know, i'm petty.
I guess I'm petty, i'm morepetty.
Yeah, i'm more petty because,like I said, if you wasn't with
me shooting in the gym, thendon't, don't come in now when
I'm making these three pointers.
You know, i'm saying don't comenow to the gym when I'm making
three pointers.
And then the situation was thislike you say, yeah, if you have
an excuse, you have alegitimate excuse, cool.
But a week later, you know, youtell me you got family issues

(31:05):
and Shannon, a week later, allof a sudden those family issues
are gone And now you want tojump back on.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
I'm like Dispelled all of a sudden.
Now a sudden.
Now you got the time this hasbeen only it's what.
Yeah, that, right there.
I couldn't tell you.
I get that.

Ant (31:27):
I mean you simply said, like I got something going on,
just give me a week, like allright, i'm just I'm putting it
on hold for like a very shortperiod of time.
Yeah, no like somebody got toget started right away, like I
got a family issue, some thingsI got to do.
give me weak, i bet.
all right, cool, okay, i'llgive you no exactly a week.

Jeff (31:43):
He ain't safe, i'm clear about it.
He ain't safe.
put it on hold, right?
He specifically said go aheadwithout me right.

Ant (31:50):
He gave you, gave you an excuse, not a reason like.
If you gave it that reason likegoing without me because I got
some She'll take care of itmight have clicked in your brain
like you know what I do, wantyou to be on this.
So like get that stuff Takingcare of, i'll push it back a
week so then we can all starttogether.
He's like nah, fucking goingabout me.
Like cool, no problem, stay onshore.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
The boats leaving this way you know it's funny, i
didn't.
I had no idea that You had cameto him first.
Yeah, that he never, but henever bought that set of table
to me when it came to me.
And Now I look back feelingsomething, because now it was
like, well, razz can do this,you know, he can lay this shit

(32:28):
down, he can put the shittogether, he can compose, he can
produce it.
Now I kind of feel like what wasI really used?
because, you know, he neverpresented this to me, as far as
you know, he was trying to jumpon your shit and then all of a
sudden, you know, he gave upthis excuse, that all of a
sudden he came to me.
You want to rock with me withthis?
and I'm thinking there was aclean slate, like I'm just
jumping on what's a brand,you're completely fresh and

(32:49):
completely original, you know.
And I was like, oh, it's funnyhow what you, what you say, how
you introduce your channels is,lies up similar to this channel
here.
Then I make it was like, oh no,i came with that shit for they
don't Listen, listen, there's noway for me to know.

(33:11):
I don't even, i don't reallycare.
But I figured the culture is apopular topic, a popular title,
so I gave him the benefit of thedoubt.
But now that it's not that thisis surfing as far as you know
how it started and how I got onboard after the fact, i know
it's basically Basicallylegitimize that you know he lied
and then you guys were the realdeal.
You guys were the first ones todo it.

(33:33):
So I'm glad I know the truthnow.
You know after what three, fouryears.

Jeff (33:38):
Yes, but I'm ready to move on from it.
Man, i'm curious to hear, tolisten to our audience and our
listeners See how they feelabout you.
Know, should you let people inafter they Rejected you, your
vision originally?
you know what I'm saying.
I feel like that's a good topic.
But, yes, before we go, man,because we ask this, we ask all
our all our guests this who areyour top five rappers, dead or

(34:01):
alive?

Speaker 3 (34:03):
of all time.
Oh, no, no, no, let's not dothis, let's not do this.

Ant (34:10):
My man, my man, my man.
There's no judgment, there isno wrong answer, there is no
wrong answer.
It's a personal choice.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Zero wrong answer Yes , That shit is like fluid bro.
I know, oh, top five.
my business, gracious, i don'tput me on the spot, all right.
Um, let me work backwards then.
five What?

Ant (34:35):
okay, okay, all right, here's the thing.
It doesn't have to be innumerical order, just your top
five.
All right, how you, how youfeeling about them today.
That's all all right.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
So Nas, um, i gotta give nas His due.
But you're from Queens, listen,i'm not gonna put well, um,
listen, we're not gonna do twoparking biggie.
I'm not Not that they don'tthey're not valid, i mean they
are, but they're always going tobe The top.
So I'm not even gonna considerthat, because it's the top two

(35:07):
from both sides right.
So I'm not even gonna put themas my top five.
So, but they're exclusion.
I'm gonna say nas.
I'm gonna say, i'm gonna sayrock him.
Wow, i didn't expect this.
Actually, somebody else thatuse on, I'm drawing a blank.

Ant (35:27):
Um, that's the whole point.
Don't worry about it.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
That's the whole point.
Um, who else who was?
I can drop in there.
Um, oh, better alive, betteralive.
um Man, um, oh, no, i'm fromthe 80s and the 90s, so there's
so many artists I just Oh, canwe have?

(35:54):
No, i don't know how long I'mgonna take, and it's a congested
Top of top and you gave us two,you got three more man.
Oh.

Ant (36:10):
First people to come to like a thing.
Ain't nobody gonna judge you.

Jeff (36:21):
Appreciate that one.
Do you have m&m in your top?

Speaker 3 (36:34):
No top 10.
Yes, not top five, and I knowthat's very controversial.
That's like last to me, i guessIs not.

Jeff (36:43):
I ask every and I don't want to make this a racial thing
, but it is a racial thing I askevery black guest, every black
guest including, and that weever have on the show.
I ask them if they have m&m,and they all say no.

Ant (36:53):
So I'm thinking it's a racial thing.

Jeff (36:55):
I'm thinking it's a colorism or reverse racism.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
I don't know what it is.
For me it's not.

Jeff (37:00):
I can't relate to their music.
I get that a lot.

Ant (37:05):
No, I'm.
I get tired of arguing the shitwith you.
He's a great rapper, but I'mjust gonna put a people ahead of
him.

Jeff (37:10):
I can I can.

Ant (37:11):
I can easily put ll ahead of him.
I can easily, at this point,put Kendrick ahead of him.
I can easily put big.
I easily put Nas.
Easily put jack.
Easily put rock cam.
I easily put keres one.
Like I said, he might be, andmaybe one of the top three
greatest lyricists of all time.
His ability to actually spitbars is undeniable.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Right, but.

Ant (37:30):
I still got to take the total package with it.
I got to put all the other shitaround it.
I'm not saying that don'trelate to him.
I had every m&m album, justsaying, all right, i put some
other people out.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah, that marsham mouth was LP.
That shit was.

Jeff (37:44):
All right, you got two more.
You gave us Nas rock him bigpun.
You got two more.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
All right, uh, jay-z, and I'm gonna just throw
somebody old school in there.
Um, i'm kind of interested tosay this name because I'm
probably gonna get shot if I saythis.
Ah, say it.

Ant (38:08):
It's America, black man, i got you listen y'all call me.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
I understand y'all can edit this shit.
I'm gonna just say, curtis,blow Um, just to put someone old
school.

Jeff (38:16):
No, there's no, there's no shame in that.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Oh yeah.

Jeff (38:19):
I thought you was gonna save vanilla ice or empty
hammers, some shit like that.
I.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
I'm not the coolest boy in there.
You're like Dana, dana likehold up now.

Ant (38:28):
Huh, not, dana, dane, calm down.

Jeff (38:31):
You can never get clown for throwing a pioneers name out
there.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Yeah, i'm fine, i'm gonna put Curtis bowing there.
So there's my five right there.

Ant (38:38):
I've had two so long.
I didn't expect it.
It's respected.
No shame.
No shame, brother, no shame.

Jeff (38:43):
But thank you for coming on, man.
Let everybody know where theycan find you.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yo, y'all can find me .
I'm on ig, um, as razzierunderscore tv, um.
I also have my online website,which is razzier tv online com.
You can also find me on rumble,or you can also find me on
daily motion And, of course, onyoutube, um, there's another

(39:08):
platform That i'm like.
I can't remember what it isright now, i don't know.

Jeff (39:11):
And razzier is r a z i r tv is t i vi.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Correct, correct.
So I appreciate you guys.
Thank you for putting me onbrother Shout out to our coach.
Much, much success.
Keep doing what y'all doing,keep grinding it out, keep
putting that shit out there.
the content is real, is real,real, real talk.
I love it.
I'm gonna be following you.
I know I took a hiatus at thebeginning of the year because of

(39:36):
the fact that I have issuesWith my job and I kind of just
started separating my, my, mylife from work and everything
like.
I was in the Not a very goodplace at the moment.
So i'm glad you hit me upyesterday So you kind of revived
me in that and i'm gonna befollowing for real.
So I appreciate that if y'all,if y'all, still need my help
with anything that I can helpy'all with, just reach out to me
.
Never hesitate, bro.

(39:56):
I appreciate both y'all.
Yo, and thank you as well Forgiving me the time in the space
this morning.

Jeff (40:02):
Appreciate you for coming on, brother.
Again A shout out to our coachor crew And check us out on.
Uh.
On youtube, man, we got thatreaction video up where we doing
the Wu Tang triumph me and antThat's very funny.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
I'll check that We got some more coming up soon,
But yo whoa, whoa, whoa.

Ant (40:18):
I got a better idea, though , remember you say you want to
do it.
Okay, you're talking a littleversus thing, right?
So you heard about bill boystalk 50 Rap groups of all time
bill boards now, i haven'tlooked at it.
So number two is is who's?

Jeff (40:32):
number one.

Ant (40:33):
You already know, i don't know.

Jeff (40:35):
Oh, it was the.
it was death row, wait.

Ant (40:37):
What?
oh no, my boy, i'm thinkingabout on the bt.

Jeff (40:39):
It was they gave death row the best record label award of
all time, or some shit Yeah yeah, who was number one?
rap groups.
Oh uh, oh nwa.
No, they were number one was uhrendy mc.
They were who the fuck isnumber one.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
I'll cast.
Well, I'll put in me for me apersonal opinion.
Nwa, I mean, that's my all-timefavorite rap group right there.
Um, I can't even front.

Ant (41:11):
All right.
So so you want to talk aboutreaction videos?
Jeff, I make a deal with youYou can pick wu tang and I can
pick outcast.
You can't use no wu affiliateshit.
So no meth albums, No, no, no,no ghostface albums.
No re albums, just Nope, just agroup.
You can take wu tang, whatevershit they did, and I'll take

(41:33):
outcast and just watch yourselfget smoked.
It's up to you, though.

Jeff (41:36):
I will talk about that, but yo thanks for tuning in man.
Thank you, raps, for coming on.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
I'll appreciate another episode of the culture.
Thanks, peace, all right Peace.
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