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September 25, 2025 51 mins

"Prove me wrong." - Charlie Kirk



Marvin Joles is the owner of Wis-Coat Asphalt Maintenance and the creator of the "Blacktop Banter" podcast and he has made his return to the show as we continue to discuss the life and contributions made by conservative activist and co-founder of Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk, after he was murdered at a speaking engagement in Utah on September 10, 2025.  As we have been examining the fallout of this event over the last couple of days, there has been a theme of courage and standing up for what you believe in.  Those themes are carried over into today's conversation as Marvin and Jay are discussing whether it is a lack of culture that has led to this chaos we are experiencing today or if our culture as a society as merely shifted in that direction, the never-ending quest for knowledge and self-improvement, how a breakdown of mutual respect has enflamed people on both sides of the aisle, and a desire for a more peaceful and fruitful future in the wake of tragedy.  As we continue to navigate these waters, we continue to hope for a better tomorrow where a person is free to say what is on their mind free of fear and with the hope of open ears to receive those words.  

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