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October 15, 2025 61 mins

"A fire broke out backstage in a theatre. The clown came out to warn the public; they thought it was a joke and applauded. He repeated it; the acclaim was even greater. I think that's just how the world will come to an end: to general applause from wits who believe it's a joke." - Søren Kierkegaard



Real estate professional, businessman, co-owner of R.K. Reiman, and host of "The Real Build" podcast Bill Reiman is back on the show today for a conversation about the contributions and legacy of conservative activist and co-founder of Turning Point USA Charlie Kirk, who lost his life at a speaking engagement in Utah on September 10, 2025.  Bill and Jay are unpacking how this unfortunate event elicited very different responses from those who followed Charlie Kirk's message and those who didn't, the undeniable fact that people with opposing view points are refusing to speak to one another anymore with any kind of rational or respectful interactions, the missed opportunity for a call for unity in place of further divisive rhetoric, and why it is more important now than ever for people to sit down and listen to one another.  Bill provides a unique perspective on these tragic events and we're grateful he chose to discuss them on this episode of The Culture Matters Podcast.

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