December 16, 2024 • 36 mins
Could Major League Baseball be orchestrating outcomes to favor big-market teams like the Yankees and Dodgers? We dive into this provocative question with co-host Val and our spirited crew—Patrick, Eric, Donnie, and Paul—as we reflect on an exhilarating 2024 MLB season. Theories fly about the Dodgers' acquisition of Shohei Ohtani and the Yankees' return to the World Series, sparking a lively debate on whether MLB manipulates matchups to boost viewership. We also tackle the controversial topic of primetime scheduling, sharing fan frustrations over perceived favoritism and the joy of rooting for underdogs in a league dominated by powerhouses.
Join us on a rollercoaster of baseball fandom, where moving teams and regional biases stir up intense loyalty and rivalry. Our conversation meanders through the impact of relocations, like the Oakland A's potential move to Las Vegas, and explores how modern fans follow individual stars such as Ohtani. Nostalgia runs high as we reminisce about unforgettable World Series moments and ponder the integrity of the game in comparison to college football's own controversies. Through laughter and candid banter, we celebrate the enduring commitment of fans whose teams face long championship droughts, maintaining hope in the face of adversity.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I gotta run guys.
Speaker 3 (00:01):
I gotta cook dinner for my family here what's up,
dada crew and welcome to anotherepisode of the Dada Chronicles.
Listen, this is part three ofour conversation with val
(00:25):
patrick, eric, donnie paul and I.
Okay, a year-end review ofmajor league baseball baseball.
Overall, we had a blast.
Okay, but not only is this partthree, this is going to be the
last episode of 2024.
That's right.
It'll be, uh, taking a winterbreak and then we'll be back
into the new year.
Don't worry, we're not goinganywhere, we're coming back,
(00:47):
baby.
But I wanted to give you guysthis last episode because this
was a lot of fun.
I had an absolute blast.
Don't let go of those tinfoilhats, guys.
It is still needed on thisepisode, okay, but I want to
thank you guys for being with methroughout this trajectory of
2024.
The addition of a co-host Val,you have been awesome.
(01:11):
Thank you so much for joiningthe Data Chronicles podcast.
You've been an amazing friend,amazing co-host.
So more to come in 2025.
Yeah, so, guys, without furtherado, I'll give you the episode.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
For MLB.
Don't you think they would havenot waited 15 years to get the
Yankees into the World Series?
I mean, that goes againsteverything for them to sit back
for 15 years.
We're just not going to worryabout correcting this, and then
all of a sudden, we're going todo it this year.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
The problem is the Major League cheaters so much,
and then the Yankees were asudden.
We're going to do it this year.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
The problem is that major league cheetahs so much.
And then the yankees were likewe're gonna hire boone because
he's gonna be along.
I just feel like it didn't dawnon them until it made sense for
them, like there's no way thatthe dodgers were gonna get otani
, and it was like yes, they didno.
No, there's no way that thedodgers weren't gonna get otani
and mlb was gonna be like likealright, it can't be like a
Dodgers.
No offense to Marlins fans,marlins World Series it can't be
(02:10):
that they couldn't have a WorldSeries.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorryGuardians, sorry Ed, what did I
?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
do to you.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
It can't be like a I don't know what I was thinking
Dodgers, guardians, blue Jays,royals A's type.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
You really are hitting on the A's a lot here.
You might want to calm down.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Now they've got to make it fun.
So I just feel like it was allabout timing for them, and what
a coincidence that this was theWorld Series that they got right
after last year's World Series.
And I feel like the Astros aregreat money makers for them too,
because I feel like it's justso controversial, it's so
perfect.
Everyone's going to tune in andeither hate watch the Astros or
(02:53):
root for the Astros, and so Idon't know.
You know what guys I'm.
I'm crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
All I can say is there's gotta be a money trail
of of how much they paid class Ato Class A to blow three games
because otherwise the Guardianswere going to be in the World
Series.
So I mean again.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I agree 100%.
To things like that, becausethere's no way they controlled
him going out there the movementon your curveball and you split
.
Everything is gone All of asudden.
That kind of made me mad, but Idigress.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I you know I, I just think it.
I think that major leaguebaseball got what they they were
would always hope would happen.
I think I think major leaguebaseball and all the sports, I
think all the sports, hope forthose kind of matchups.
I mean, look at collegefootball.
College football wants notredame to be in everything all the
time and Notre Dame sucks.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, but they suck, Coming from you guys who just
got blown out by Louisville, whowe smashed at home.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
so I don't want to hear it.
I'm talking in general terms.
Year to year, yeah, but collegefootball is an actual
popularity contest determined byrankings rather than actual
play.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
That is 100% true contest determined by rankings
rather than actual play.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
That is 100% true.
But I think baseball got whatthey hope to get most of the
time, which is the nationalexposure.
But I think that also goes backto what Paul said is they want
the big market teams to get thenational exposure because they
don't uplift the smaller marketteams like they should.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
All I'm saying is they would have never in a
trillion years, would have everallowed another Rangers
Diamondbacks World Series.
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
No, here's the thing I think they wanted.
At the very least, they wantedone of the Blue Bloods in the
World Series.
They would have been happy ifit would have been the Dodgers,
they would have been happy if itwas just the Yankees.
They wanted one of those teamsthey wanted.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I'm saying they wanted, they got.
It times two.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
They did.
It's one thing in my mind tosay this is what Major League
Baseball wanted.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Clearly they wanted the big markets.
Yeah, 100%.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
To say that Rob Manfred was actually in there
telling the umpires how to callthe game and risk being
imprisoned for life because ofall the laws he's violating by
doing that.
That's where we bust out Rob.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Manfred's a moron.
First of all, you don't thinkthat.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I do not think that.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
No, I don't think so either.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I think that the legal risk of doing something
like that and being discoveredis not worth it for baseball's
ratings.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Maybe it's because I live in Vegas, but I've learned
that money really talks, so I'lljust leave it at that.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Well, I will say that I mean I think, based on any
metric that you look at, thisWorld Series would be considered
a huge success, right, I meancertainly from a, from a
viewership perspective, from uh,from, from a money-making
perspective, um, and obviously Ithink manfred is going to be
very pleased with, with having ahuge market, like like paul,
(05:58):
you and donnie were saying abouthaving a market like la there
and having uh, having a marketlike New York, having arguably
the two largest media markets inthe country, certainly from a
baseball perspective, and thenthe international viewership
that comes with an Otani and thedigital engagements that you
can get out of it.
All that creates money, right.
(06:19):
So I'm not sitting herethinking it was fixed either,
but I mean certainly he's goingto be very pleased with the,
with the outcome of that because, like I said, based on any
metric that you look at, thisWorld Series was a huge success.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
When you have your sports, two biggest stars
against each other.
That's what you want.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
What I'll say, that powers, everything from the
money, from the advertising,from the corporate, what I'll
say is, what really pissed meoff was the fact that they gave
the Yankees every singleprimetime spot.
That's the one thing that I'mmad about, and the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I get that too.
I feel guilty as a fan.
I'm like, why do we keepgetting the 8 pm games?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
You know what I'm saying.
The Cleveland-Detroit series.
That was one of the best seriesin the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
I mean that was a good series right.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
And then to have that in an afternoon where the
viewership did not get to enjoythose games.
It's sad they should have done,you know, like hey, all right,
we're going to alternate it foryou guys and everything.
And it didn't happen, andthat's the one thing I'll say
that major league baseball had ahand in it.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Well, it was just like some of the Mets Dodgers
games, you know, on West coast.
Yeah, I mean they're, they'rewhat One o'clock or two o'clock
in the afternoon starting a gameout there for a five o'clock
east coast time slot.
I mean that kind of stinks forthose guys because they were
dealing with shadows and sun andall that and I mean, yeah, it's
crazy, it does kind of suck.
(07:52):
Even as a yankees fan, I thinkit sucks that that they give
them the eight o'clock time slotevery time.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, we should have had to play some day games as
well.
Oh, I agree, should have,should have, could have, would
have I'll say this.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
I'll end on this note .
Speaker 1 (08:07):
This is the fifth thing that Val will just say and
now I'm done, and now I'mreally done.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
It should've been the Rangers and the Yankees Dodgers
.
I still want to collab on afoodie video one day.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
All I can say, val, is I don't know why you're not
wearing your Las Vegas 51s gearduring the entire time you're
going through with this, becausethis is like total alien
conspiracy theory.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
You should be dressed in the 51s stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
The whole time.
When you started, you shouldhave slipped on that 51s hat.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
This episode is so good.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Wait, but you don't think, so I've gotten nowhere
with any of y'all.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
No no.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
No, no, I agree, it's what maybe the baseball wanted.
Maybe, eric, but they are notpulling strings.
The Phillies didn't lose to theMets because baseball wanted
the bigger market.
The Phillies lost to the Metsbecause they couldn't hit a
frigging curveball.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
The Phillies were going to lose to the Mets anyway
, because the Phillies winningwould have equaled no Dodgers in
the World Series.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Not against the Mets.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
That's what I'm saying.
Either one of those teamsactually were supposed to lose
at the end of the day, becauseit was supposed to be the
Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I love your conspiracy theories.
These are so good Thanks.
This is so good, Eric tell mewhat you think, because I think
you're kind of in line with Valhere.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
That's why the Dodgers at the beginning I'm
kicking myself for not puttingmoney on them to have won it all
because they were plus money somany times this season.
It was just like free money,because it was going to happen,
it was supposed to happen.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
It's like Well why didn't it happen in the last
year then?
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Because to happen.
Well, why didn't it happen in?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
the last year then Because Otani wasn't on the team
.
I see this is like humans can'tcause climate change, but also
the government's controlling thehurricanes.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Bro, that was a live-in wall down here in North
Carolina they really pushed thatone.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
So if Otani is the reason the Dodgers got there,
why were the Angels never there?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Because the Dodgers are like the love child of MLB.
Okay, I'll list you who theylove, and I was shocked that the
Astros were bounced as early asthey were, but I feel like
they're money-making teams.
Thus, for the teams and I don'tthink they care who it is, as
long as one of these teams makesit far enough to continue to
(10:31):
make them money Dodgers, yankees, astros.
Dodgers, yankees, astros yeah,what?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
about the Mets.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Nah, not yet.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
No, okay.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
No, I mean maybe the Phillies.
Maybe the Phillies, I mean Ifeel like for sure, East coast
teams.
I don't really know about theMets.
I don't really feel it as muchas the Mets because they already
have their New York team.
So Eric talk to me guys, I'mgoing to write a book and I hope
you all buy it one day.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Okay, Okay.
So, Eric, I'll give you this.
There were some bad callsagainst the Royals because you
and I talked about them whenthey happened and I grant you
that they did go against theRoyals.
But straighten this out.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I mean, what am I supposed to say after all that
she just said?
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Could you agree?
Like there's nothing left tosay, like Mike Johnson.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
All I'm saying is, if I see val next week with a with
a full hat I'm gonna lose mymind so when val writes her book
, eric's gonna write the forwardthat's right.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
I need a tinfoil hat with the curved brim.
Who can make that nice?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
donnie can, he knows a guy yep, I honestly don't
remember who I think it was,maybe somebody at my work said
it.
They said you know you havethose two teams, you have the
Yankees Dodgers in the worldseries, but they left so much
money out there because itfinished in five there's.
If they didn't go to game sixor seven they could have made so
(11:59):
much more money and it couldhave easily been a four game
sweep.
But they wanted to have theyankees blow a five run lead and
show how terrible defensivelythey are giving them a one game
they got exposed.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
They got exposed.
You know what?
Listen, let's be honest, thatif take away that fifth inning,
yeah, they were actually thatcall, was actually playing
really good.
And I told Donnie Donnie, youremember this conversation that
you and me had I was, like.
Cole.
I don't know for the life of mewhy he was throwing 99-100 to
(12:34):
Otani, because Otani was nothitting anything.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
No, he was chasing so much.
I think we talked about hisinjury, but he was chasing so
much down and out.
Yeah, but was that, guys it'swas chasing so much down and out
.
Yeah, but was that, guys?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
it's clearly because Well below the Mendoza line, the
.
Garrett Cole marionetteoperator in the studio in New
York lost his signal for amoment and the Garrett Cole
robot stopped running to firstbase.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Okay, exactly, close, close.
I was shocked that the Yankeeschoked that hard because it was
supposed to go to a game six.
Now I don't know who would havewon game seven.
I'm pretty sure it would havebeen the dodgers, because did
you guys see how many people intokyo were watching this game
and how, oh my gosh, you guysremember when it was still we
were still in the champion?
(13:20):
What series was it?
Champion league series?
Yes, um, they showed thatcommercial with just the Yankees
and the Dodgers, that playoffcommercial.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
This is going to be the highest rated podcast
episode for the DeadheadChronicles podcast.
I just want to put that outthere.
Do you guys?
Speaker 5 (13:36):
remember.
Please say yes, yes, yes, yes,yes, yes, yes.
Do you guys remember?
Four teams were still in it,yet there was a playoff
commercial with justhighlighting Otani and Judge.
Why was that?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
They never included Cleveland in any of the
commercials.
What are you talking?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
about Because of Otani and Judge.
They were just again promotingthe biggest players in the
biggest market.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Here's the thing, though, I'm not trying to defend
.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Van Vrij, I don't think somebody put a promo out
early.
That was already done right.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Uh, you know, here's the thing they'll say.
I think the major leaguebaseball, very stupidly and very
dumb, like they are trying topromote the players right now.
They started kind of promotingthe players, but they're doing a
really bad job, right and and Ithink this is where, like it
was very blatantly obvious, it'slike it just it didn't come out
(14:28):
right, like which I get Iunderstand what they're trying
to do.
It's like, hey, we're trying to, we're trying to.
You guys have been asking forus to promote the big names.
Here are the big names.
The problem is you left bignames out of other teams right,
like what.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Where was the love for jram?
Where he when.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
He's been playing outstanding all year.
Not a word on him.
The only person that saidsomething to his credit was
Boone.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
yeah, I was like y'all you guys are keep
underestimating this guy andthis guy is just killing the
ball they didn't, they did notunderestimate jram all the year,
all two years well, the reasonjram didn't make it into any
advertisements is because theytalk to fans like eric prophet
yeah, I can't stand that dudesecond behind.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
But uh, harper.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Second behind Harper.
Oh God.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
See, that's the thing the league has.
I mean the league's got BobbyWitt Jr, they've got Harper,
they've got Ramirez and Class A.
They've got other guys atCleveland, they've got all these
other players.
They just don't push them.
I mean the Padres have got likehalf a dozen guys that should
be totally promoted.
I mean it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
And that's the problem.
They should really talk to theNFL about this.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, right, and that they wouldn't.
You know, like the Super Bowl,for instance, is one game on a
Sunday in February and it's anevent, it's a national event,
regardless of who's playing theWorld Series.
A seven-game series is just notgoing to be that right.
It could end on a Wednesdaynight in Game 5 because of one
(16:07):
bad inning, or it could end on aFriday on Game 7.
So it's like they don't havethe ability to make the World
Series an event the way the NFLdoesfl does with with the super
bowl.
But they also don't have it'snot a national enough game that
you can take a team likemilwaukee and make it as popular
(16:28):
as, say, green bay is in thenfl and it's just like it's.
I don't, I don't.
I don't know how you solve thatproblem.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
If you're, if you're, major league baseball, right
because their marketing dollarsgoes towards the only two guys
that play baseball you gottaadmit it, though Otani is a.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
If I was good, if I'm major league commissioner, I
would be marketing the hell outof Otani right about now already
still, oh, my.
Oh my God, yeah, why not?
He has the market in the US.
He has the market in Japan.
Listen, he is bringing so muchmoney to Major League Baseball
(17:07):
right now.
I would be marketing the hellout of him.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Guys, I don't know if I've mentioned this previously,
but I spent a little bit oftime in Japan this past.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Really, when was that ?
I don't remember that Wow.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
And for real, though, like like you go in the subway
in Tokyo and it's just like.
It's like Shohei Otaniwallpaper, I mean, it was just
everywhere.
The other cool thing was,though, that they had they
actually had a lot ofpromotional stuff for the other
japanese players.
Um, and it was, you know, itwas, it was very cool.
I mean, like to see what.
(17:43):
What happened?
Uh, it was the largest, themost viewers ever for a major
league baseball game in japan,when you, darvish and yamamoto
were pitching against each otherin the playoffs, like that is
super cool, right, like that wasa pretty wild thing.
So yeah, like baseball becomingmore international, which is
(18:04):
something they are veryintentionally doing.
Is this the generals we gothere?
Man, I like that hat trick, val, I've been meaning to ask
because I'm trying to make itout Are you wearing the pimentos
right now?
I am.
It's pretty great.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Val's mad at me because I called her cuckoo
bananas.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
I don't think nobody else thinks this way, but you
know what it's okay, women arealways like that's the hat women
oh, oh, jesus, you justinsulted come on now wait.
That's not what I meant it'snot what I meant.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Here we go.
I didn't't mean to wear a LasVegas hat on an interview with
an A's guy, I just meant.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
F Oakland, who's about to lose their team to Las
Vegas.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I just was saying that Oakland can fall into the
ocean for all I can say.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
That's all I care.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
That's all.
I'm excited to have yourbaseball team here.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Oh, this is so good.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I love this and think of it this way too.
That to paul's point about the?
Uh, the markets.
Um, how many people in uh, youknow, seattle gave a crap about
the world series because it'sthe dodgers and yankees?
How many people in miami evenprobably watched?
I mean's the thing Like he'scomparing it to the Super Bowl,
the teams.
You know people in the citieswith smaller market teams or
(19:23):
didn't make the playoffs.
They're pretty much done withbaseball.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
They could care less, especially because it's the
Yankees and the Dodgers, butthat's the thing is.
I think that it had to be ateam that you're either going to
watch because you love them orwatch because you're going to
hate.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Watch and I hate the word hate, but I hate watch, I
hate watched, right yeah I loveyou, buddy, I hope you guys
noticed, but I did too, and sobut I still want to work with
them like but then, but, thenagain, we, we're more diehard
than the average fan I mean theaverage people could care less
about.
(19:57):
There's so many people that hadno idea.
A lot of people would knowwho's in the Super Bowl, would
have no idea who's playing theWorld Series.
It's just because it's soregional, Even with these bigger
market teams.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
But here's the thing though, to your point, donnie, I
got a lot of people telling melike, oh my God, did you that?
Like the dodgers and theyankees and these are, like you
know, just fair weather fanslike they're just like fans of
the sport that could care less,unlike us, that we will watch
162 games of a season.
These guys will watch maybe 10games because they're at friends
(20:29):
house or something like that,and they're like they were
invested in the in the worldseries because it was two of the
biggest names in baseball but Iwould also say, um, that beyond
teams, a lot of, a lot ofcasual fans, particularly like a
lot of kids growing up now, areplayer centric and not team
centric, right so so, so thelikes of, so they're going to
(20:51):
worry more about.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
They're going to root for whatever team otani plays
for, or they're going to rootfor whatever team otani plays
for, or they're gonna root forwhatever team judge plays for.
So they're not they're notreally married to a team that
they're just gonna.
They're gonna jump to where the, the, the superstars are, or
the ones that, uh, they connectwith on social media or who have
a presence online.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
I also to your point.
Yesnie asked well then, whydidn't the Angels if they had
Otani?
I also think, though, theycan't make it too obvious I mean
, it's the Angels, Like one guyisn't going to do it all on his
own.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
But that's a Los Angeles team.
Why wouldn't they want to goafter that market?
Speaker 5 (21:30):
But it's not the Dodgers, just like the Mets
aren't the Yankees.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Excuse me, it is not just the Los Angeles teams,
there's the Los Angeles Angelsof Anaheim.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Okay, let's say the full name here They've got all
the fans in Anaheim and LosAngeles.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Let's be honest.
If MLB is going to choose oneteam to pick in Texas, it's not
going to be the Rangers.
I've accepted that.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
I picked the Rangers.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yay, you guys would too right.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
I would pick the las vegas uh athletics um well that
was a really good rant and Ifeel so much better I think I
feel like you had this, these,this pent-up, like emotions,
like, just like holding on, justyou know what I think a lot of
it came from the fact that Iknew it was rigged and I just
feel so guilty that as a fan, Ijust I was just like wow, like I
(22:22):
thought last year's WorldSeries was the best World Series
ever.
Now here they are, like tryingto.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
OK.
So here's the thing though youthought it was the best World
Series because you're a fan ofthe Rangers.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
But to be honest with you, you're my friend.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Don't be honest, the best.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
World Series ever was 1991.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Twins and Braves and neither one of them is my team.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
That was a phenomenal World.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Series that probably was one of the best ones 97
World Series where you know likemy team lost and it was a great
series and it went all the wayto the end Game seven, wasn't
that Renteria.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah, great counsel.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Sorry.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
My parents have told me to go talk to someone, so I
really hope they don't listen tothis episode.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, I had no idea that Val was a World Series
denier 2016 was a great World.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Series.
So what you're saying is Ishould just like despise Major
League Baseball as a Yankeesise,major league baseball as a
Yankees fan, because I've been aYankees fan since I was 10
years old, eric agrees so for 46years I've been a Yankees fan.
They have not been in the worldseries.
30 of those 46 years to 15years stretches.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
I mean exactly Again.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I went through an entire career of Don Mattingly
playing non-World Seriesbaseball.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
They can't make it too obvious.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Their man was robbed.
Their man was robbed.
So they went 15 years and thenthey gave the core four their
window and then they wentanother 15 years because they
didn't want to make it obviousagain, by the way, how happy
does don mattingly look exactlybecause, like if you guys suck.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Well, they're not going to be like here, just
still send them.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
like right they drove don mattingly to join the blue
jays I know right, it'll beaaron judge's birth certificate
speaking of that, did you guyssee the story on the about a
dominican kid who was who was 19instead of 14?
Yeah he lost out on millions ofdollars yeah, just for being 19
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was?
Speaker 6 (24:32):
it was like the julio franco effect yeah, yeah, a lot
of the.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
And see here's this is the problem with that major
leagueball has right.
Another one is that they'reputting so much stock into the
international pool, right.
They don't have aninternational draft, which they
should, right.
And now they have these playersin the Dominican making lots of
money and falsifying theirbirth certificates in order to
(25:02):
get all that money.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
His agent was Danny Almonte.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
That's a throwback.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
There is a throwback.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
So I like, Guys, this has been a really good
conversation.
I really enjoyed this episodeso much.
Not really, not really, guys,this has been a really good
conversation.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I really enjoyed this episode so much, not really,
not really Val's mad.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Are you about to ask me if pineapple belongs on pizza
?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yes, no, we're not doing any of the other questions
Because it's too many.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
It's not the famous questions.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
There's too many of you to do this.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
How much was Aaron Judge paid to drop that fly?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
ball.
I was just going to say allright, here we go.
How much, how high was GarrettCole that he couldn't run?
Was he high, or was he drunk?
That's what I want to know.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
He just misjudged it.
I like Garrett's answer.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Yes, by the way, can this really be an episode of the
Dad Hat Chronicles if there'sno famous, not so famous
questions?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
We've had it before where there's been no episodes
yeah, when paul and I talkedabout vegas, we didn't have
those questions yeah, I was madabout that.
I like those questions I knowthis is a baseball podcast, but
uh, patrick mahomes just gothurt.
I know I'm watching it rightnow.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Alive carson wins, here he comes oh yeah, carson
wins is still alive.
Yes, he is.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I'm going to Kansas City tomorrow for work, so I'll
check on my homes while I'm upthere.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Carson Wentz is a porcelain doll Sorry.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Oh yeah, that's a good one.
What's the conspiracy theoryfor you in the NFL Val?
Speaker 5 (26:32):
For what?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
What's the conspiracy theory for you, oh?
Speaker 5 (26:34):
my God, don't even get me started, because it's
going to always, always be theChiefs why they're a small
market.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
They're not a major city.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
How many people have jumped on that bandwagon?
How many 14-year-old girls havetuned in just to see Taylor
Swift for two seconds on the TV?
Once they break up, he's goingto lose so many followers and I
think that's going to be thestart of their downfall.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Isn't there a rumor that they're going to be getting
engaged soon?
Speaker 5 (27:00):
No, there's not.
Please, god no.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
She's just mad that Bo Nix isn't with the biggest
celebrity in the world right now.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
We just need to play the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, she's all.
Oh, Hold on a second.
The Carolina Panthers beat the.
The Carolina Panthers not onlybeat the Saints, they fired the
Saints head coach.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Tune in tomorrow to find out, even though this won't
be out before then.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
That's why they need to tune in last week to listen
to the NFL talk on Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Look it up on the YouTube channel.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
You'll see it and is this going to be like a
four-parter?
I feel like we've been talkinga lot.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
We're about an hour and a half in.
This is so good this one wasfun.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I'm excited for next week's too, so I'd like to ask
who is everyone's favorite fornext season?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Wait who's everyone's favorite?
I thought you were about to askon here.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Oh no, who's your favorite?
Speaker 6 (27:59):
I was going to say I'm out.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
For sure, Patrick.
Wait what?
Who is your favorite to win theWorld Series next year?
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Honestly, the Dodgers , because they had so much fun
with it.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I would go if I were betting money on it right now.
I would bet the Mets.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
No.
No Unless they signed someonethat from noteworthy yeah well,
you don't understand, val.
I'm actually friends with thescript writers, so it's uh and
you are shocked this wholeconversation, like you didn't
agree with me once I didn't, I'msorry.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
No, I agree with you about the nfl, but just not
major league Baseball.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
This is so fun.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
I love MLB, but I was really disappointed.
I mean, I'm telling you theguilt I felt.
It was like, okay, fine, thenwe won't ever go to the World
Series ever again, if this iswhat we have to deal with.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I think that we need to get to the heart of what is
plaguing you, val.
I think your guilt over yourteam being in a low-rated World
Series is causing you to lashout, and I think it's
manifesting itself in theseconspiracy theories, and I'm
worried for you.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Well, I hope this episode gets to Rob Manfred, and
I'm sure it does.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
We will tag him in Major League Baseball on this
episode.
What?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
about Eric Thatcher.
What do you guys think?
Seriously, I'm curious what youthink, Just sitting here now
looking ahead to next year firstthought the Sacramento
Athletics Come on.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
The Kansas City Royals.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
No stop, stop lying.
There we go.
I knew I liked that guy for areason.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
You're on here.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Patrick.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
God.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Listen right now.
Until they get eliminated, I'mgonna go with the dodgers yeah I
think the padres are gonnaeliminate the dodgers nature.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
I think the padres would be the favorite to me.
I really, I really like, oh,anyone.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
You know, I don't want to say anything because I
really do want to collaboratewith them one day.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
You guys remember the two teams that I had.
You know, it's just like hey,man, you guys got to watch out
for these two teams DetroitTigers and the San Diego Padres.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
And they both were very dangerous Listen.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I was nervous on that last game.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
I think the Tigers are sneaky good for next year
too.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
And another team I think it was referenced earlier
in the episode, but the PhilliesI think with some of the
additional investment that theymight get from the owners, could
be good.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Paul is like maybe not?
Let's not get ahead ofourselves here.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
And the Royals have some arms coming up through the
system too.
So I think if they could getsome pitching I mean honestly,
the Royals had a pretty goodteam this year and I think if
they could get some pitching- weneed both in arms and then, if
they get I don't know if TylerO'Neal is going to be it, but
they need a new outfieldersomebody they can hit Lorenzo
(30:53):
Cain.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I'd take him.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You mentioned the Tigers.
They need to get rid of JaviBaez.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Or someone needs to have a come-to-Jesus moment with
that guy and say dude, you arenot a home-run hitter, you're a
singles and doubles.
That's what I need you to do.
I do not need you to swing forthe fences, I need you to swing
for the outfield.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
It's Javi Baez.
Do you really think that'sgoing to happen?
Speaker 5 (31:23):
No, and I feel like that's why a team like the
Padres were so competitiveagainst the Dodgers because it
was small ball versus guys justtrying to like get it out of the
park Guys, forget about howimportant small ball is.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
I mean it really is and think what the Padres are
going to do next year with afull season of Luis Urias, or at
least let's hope that LuisUrias gets to finish a season
with the team.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, but here I have this to say yes to pineapple on
pizza.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Burrito over taco.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Amy Adams celebrity crush.
Oh, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Jenny Finch.
Oh, celebrity Crush.
Oh, that's a good one, jennyFinch.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Oh, jenny Finch, and I forget what the last question
was.
What was her from?
Speaker 6 (32:08):
Celebrity Crush Hillary Duff.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Same.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I was a Kathy Ireland guy.
Are you talking about TiffanyAmber Thiessen?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Kelly Kapowski.
Oh yeah, or Britney Spears wasmy girl back in the day too
tiffany till still to this day,beautiful woman mine was mike
vitar um who benny, ben or bennyfrom the sandlot yeah
Speaker 6 (32:37):
oh, benny the jet, hey the jet, rodriguez yeah, I
think he's.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
He's with the la fire department now, so he is a
firefighter he is all right.
So if my car is accidentallyset on fire, next time I'm in la
down here we go.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
There's not gonna be any evidence, guys, don't worry
about that no, um, rob manfredwill will preconceive a way to
have a fire, you know.
So, that way, uh, you know,that way you get to meet your uh
celebrity crush now yay, and Iget to tell him face to face how
I really feel guys.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Thank you so much.
This was a lot of fun.
Make sure that we're followingall of the okay, all of you
people that are listening, allof you 10 that are listening to
this podcast right now.
Make sure that you're listeningto these.
Gentlemen and lady, you're myco-host, but guys, you guys have
been awesome.
You guys are truly, truly,truly wonderful friends for
(33:35):
agreeing to come on last minuteand then listen to Val and her
conspiracy theories.
This was a lot of fun.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
By the way, I do want to make it clear that we love
you, Val.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, we couldn't do this without you.
This episode was.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
I've been wanting to get this off my chest for the
longest and as it kept going, weknow.
I was just like yo.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
I would never say anything to you that would cause
you not to invite me back tothe AAA championship game.
So just let it be known that Iwill always try to stay in your
good graces because of what funwe had at the AAA All-Star game.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Good job, buddy.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
And stay tuned for the spinoff podcast, the Tinfoil
Hat.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Chronicles yeah, the.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Tinfoil hat chronicles.
Yeah, the tinfoil chronicles.
Guys, make sure that you guysare also Tuesday and Thursday
nights, 9 pm Eastern time, theData Chronicles Sports Show with
Patrick, donnie, eric andmyself and sometimes we get Val
talk about Las Vegas and betting.
We will see you guys next week.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I got to run guys.
I got to cook dinner for myfamily here.
I gotta run guys.
Speaker 3 (00:01):
I gotta cook dinner for my family here what's up,
dada crew and welcome to anotherepisode of the Dada Chronicles.
Listen, this is part three ofour conversation with val
(00:25):
patrick, eric, donnie paul and I.
Okay, a year-end review ofmajor league baseball baseball.
Overall, we had a blast.
Okay, but not only is this partthree, this is going to be the
last episode of 2024.
That's right.
It'll be, uh, taking a winterbreak and then we'll be back
into the new year.
Don't worry, we're not goinganywhere, we're coming back,
(00:47):
baby.
But I wanted to give you guysthis last episode because this
was a lot of fun.
I had an absolute blast.
Don't let go of those tinfoilhats, guys.
It is still needed on thisepisode, okay, but I want to
thank you guys for being with methroughout this trajectory of
2024.
The addition of a co-host Val,you have been awesome.
(01:11):
Thank you so much for joiningthe Data Chronicles podcast.
You've been an amazing friend,amazing co-host.
So more to come in 2025.
Yeah, so, guys, without furtherado, I'll give you the episode.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
For MLB.
Don't you think they would havenot waited 15 years to get the
Yankees into the World Series?
I mean, that goes againsteverything for them to sit back
for 15 years.
We're just not going to worryabout correcting this, and then
all of a sudden, we're going todo it this year.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
The problem is the Major League cheaters so much,
and then the Yankees were asudden.
We're going to do it this year.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
The problem is that major league cheetahs so much.
And then the yankees were likewe're gonna hire boone because
he's gonna be along.
I just feel like it didn't dawnon them until it made sense for
them, like there's no way thatthe dodgers were gonna get otani
, and it was like yes, they didno.
No, there's no way that thedodgers weren't gonna get otani
and mlb was gonna be like likealright, it can't be like a
Dodgers.
No offense to Marlins fans,marlins World Series it can't be
(02:10):
that they couldn't have a WorldSeries.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorryGuardians, sorry Ed, what did I
?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
do to you.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
It can't be like a I don't know what I was thinking
Dodgers, guardians, blue Jays,royals A's type.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
You really are hitting on the A's a lot here.
You might want to calm down.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Now they've got to make it fun.
So I just feel like it was allabout timing for them, and what
a coincidence that this was theWorld Series that they got right
after last year's World Series.
And I feel like the Astros aregreat money makers for them too,
because I feel like it's justso controversial, it's so
perfect.
Everyone's going to tune in andeither hate watch the Astros or
(02:53):
root for the Astros, and so Idon't know.
You know what guys I'm.
I'm crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
All I can say is there's gotta be a money trail
of of how much they paid class Ato Class A to blow three games
because otherwise the Guardianswere going to be in the World
Series.
So I mean again.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I agree 100%.
To things like that, becausethere's no way they controlled
him going out there the movementon your curveball and you split
.
Everything is gone All of asudden.
That kind of made me mad, but Idigress.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I you know I, I just think it.
I think that major leaguebaseball got what they they were
would always hope would happen.
I think I think major leaguebaseball and all the sports, I
think all the sports, hope forthose kind of matchups.
I mean, look at collegefootball.
College football wants notredame to be in everything all the
time and Notre Dame sucks.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, but they suck, Coming from you guys who just
got blown out by Louisville, whowe smashed at home.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
so I don't want to hear it.
I'm talking in general terms.
Year to year, yeah, but collegefootball is an actual
popularity contest determined byrankings rather than actual
play.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
That is 100% true contest determined by rankings
rather than actual play.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
That is 100% true.
But I think baseball got whatthey hope to get most of the
time, which is the nationalexposure.
But I think that also goes backto what Paul said is they want
the big market teams to get thenational exposure because they
don't uplift the smaller marketteams like they should.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
All I'm saying is they would have never in a
trillion years, would have everallowed another Rangers
Diamondbacks World Series.
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
No, here's the thing I think they wanted.
At the very least, they wantedone of the Blue Bloods in the
World Series.
They would have been happy ifit would have been the Dodgers,
they would have been happy if itwas just the Yankees.
They wanted one of those teamsthey wanted.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I'm saying they wanted, they got.
It times two.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
They did.
It's one thing in my mind tosay this is what Major League
Baseball wanted.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Clearly they wanted the big markets.
Yeah, 100%.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
To say that Rob Manfred was actually in there
telling the umpires how to callthe game and risk being
imprisoned for life because ofall the laws he's violating by
doing that.
That's where we bust out Rob.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Manfred's a moron.
First of all, you don't thinkthat.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I do not think that.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
No, I don't think so either.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I think that the legal risk of doing something
like that and being discoveredis not worth it for baseball's
ratings.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Maybe it's because I live in Vegas, but I've learned
that money really talks, so I'lljust leave it at that.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Well, I will say that I mean I think, based on any
metric that you look at, thisWorld Series would be considered
a huge success, right, I meancertainly from a, from a
viewership perspective, from uh,from, from a money-making
perspective, um, and obviously Ithink manfred is going to be
very pleased with, with having ahuge market, like like paul,
(05:58):
you and donnie were saying abouthaving a market like la there
and having uh, having a marketlike New York, having arguably
the two largest media markets inthe country, certainly from a
baseball perspective, and thenthe international viewership
that comes with an Otani and thedigital engagements that you
can get out of it.
All that creates money, right.
(06:19):
So I'm not sitting herethinking it was fixed either,
but I mean certainly he's goingto be very pleased with the,
with the outcome of that because, like I said, based on any
metric that you look at, thisWorld Series was a huge success.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
When you have your sports, two biggest stars
against each other.
That's what you want.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
What I'll say, that powers, everything from the
money, from the advertising,from the corporate, what I'll
say is, what really pissed meoff was the fact that they gave
the Yankees every singleprimetime spot.
That's the one thing that I'mmad about, and the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I get that too.
I feel guilty as a fan.
I'm like, why do we keepgetting the 8 pm games?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
You know what I'm saying.
The Cleveland-Detroit series.
That was one of the best seriesin the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
I mean that was a good series right.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
And then to have that in an afternoon where the
viewership did not get to enjoythose games.
It's sad they should have done,you know, like hey, all right,
we're going to alternate it foryou guys and everything.
And it didn't happen, andthat's the one thing I'll say
that major league baseball had ahand in it.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Well, it was just like some of the Mets Dodgers
games, you know, on West coast.
Yeah, I mean they're, they'rewhat One o'clock or two o'clock
in the afternoon starting a gameout there for a five o'clock
east coast time slot.
I mean that kind of stinks forthose guys because they were
dealing with shadows and sun andall that and I mean, yeah, it's
crazy, it does kind of suck.
(07:52):
Even as a yankees fan, I thinkit sucks that that they give
them the eight o'clock time slotevery time.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, we should have had to play some day games as
well.
Oh, I agree, should have,should have, could have, would
have I'll say this.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
I'll end on this note .
Speaker 1 (08:07):
This is the fifth thing that Val will just say and
now I'm done, and now I'mreally done.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
It should've been the Rangers and the Yankees Dodgers
.
I still want to collab on afoodie video one day.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
All I can say, val, is I don't know why you're not
wearing your Las Vegas 51s gearduring the entire time you're
going through with this, becausethis is like total alien
conspiracy theory.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
You should be dressed in the 51s stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
The whole time.
When you started, you shouldhave slipped on that 51s hat.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
This episode is so good.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Wait, but you don't think, so I've gotten nowhere
with any of y'all.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
No no.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
No, no, I agree, it's what maybe the baseball wanted.
Maybe, eric, but they are notpulling strings.
The Phillies didn't lose to theMets because baseball wanted
the bigger market.
The Phillies lost to the Metsbecause they couldn't hit a
frigging curveball.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
The Phillies were going to lose to the Mets anyway
, because the Phillies winningwould have equaled no Dodgers in
the World Series.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Not against the Mets.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
That's what I'm saying.
Either one of those teamsactually were supposed to lose
at the end of the day, becauseit was supposed to be the
Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I love your conspiracy theories.
These are so good Thanks.
This is so good, Eric tell mewhat you think, because I think
you're kind of in line with Valhere.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
That's why the Dodgers at the beginning I'm
kicking myself for not puttingmoney on them to have won it all
because they were plus money somany times this season.
It was just like free money,because it was going to happen,
it was supposed to happen.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
It's like Well why didn't it happen in the last
year then?
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Because to happen.
Well, why didn't it happen in?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
the last year then Because Otani wasn't on the team
.
I see this is like humans can'tcause climate change, but also
the government's controlling thehurricanes.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Bro, that was a live-in wall down here in North
Carolina they really pushed thatone.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
So if Otani is the reason the Dodgers got there,
why were the Angels never there?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Because the Dodgers are like the love child of MLB.
Okay, I'll list you who theylove, and I was shocked that the
Astros were bounced as early asthey were, but I feel like
they're money-making teams.
Thus, for the teams and I don'tthink they care who it is, as
long as one of these teams makesit far enough to continue to
(10:31):
make them money Dodgers, yankees, astros.
Dodgers, yankees, astros yeah,what?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
about the Mets.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Nah, not yet.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
No, okay.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
No, I mean maybe the Phillies.
Maybe the Phillies, I mean Ifeel like for sure, East coast
teams.
I don't really know about theMets.
I don't really feel it as muchas the Mets because they already
have their New York team.
So Eric talk to me guys, I'mgoing to write a book and I hope
you all buy it one day.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Okay, Okay.
So, Eric, I'll give you this.
There were some bad callsagainst the Royals because you
and I talked about them whenthey happened and I grant you
that they did go against theRoyals.
But straighten this out.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I mean, what am I supposed to say after all that
she just said?
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Could you agree?
Like there's nothing left tosay, like Mike Johnson.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
All I'm saying is, if I see val next week with a with
a full hat I'm gonna lose mymind so when val writes her book
, eric's gonna write the forwardthat's right.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
I need a tinfoil hat with the curved brim.
Who can make that nice?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
donnie can, he knows a guy yep, I honestly don't
remember who I think it was,maybe somebody at my work said
it.
They said you know you havethose two teams, you have the
Yankees Dodgers in the worldseries, but they left so much
money out there because itfinished in five there's.
If they didn't go to game sixor seven they could have made so
(11:59):
much more money and it couldhave easily been a four game
sweep.
But they wanted to have theyankees blow a five run lead and
show how terrible defensivelythey are giving them a one game
they got exposed.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
They got exposed.
You know what?
Listen, let's be honest, thatif take away that fifth inning,
yeah, they were actually thatcall, was actually playing
really good.
And I told Donnie Donnie, youremember this conversation that
you and me had I was, like.
Cole.
I don't know for the life of mewhy he was throwing 99-100 to
(12:34):
Otani, because Otani was nothitting anything.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
No, he was chasing so much.
I think we talked about hisinjury, but he was chasing so
much down and out.
Yeah, but was that, guys it'swas chasing so much down and out
.
Yeah, but was that, guys?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
it's clearly because Well below the Mendoza line, the
.
Garrett Cole marionetteoperator in the studio in New
York lost his signal for amoment and the Garrett Cole
robot stopped running to firstbase.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Okay, exactly, close, close.
I was shocked that the Yankeeschoked that hard because it was
supposed to go to a game six.
Now I don't know who would havewon game seven.
I'm pretty sure it would havebeen the dodgers, because did
you guys see how many people intokyo were watching this game
and how, oh my gosh, you guysremember when it was still we
were still in the champion?
(13:20):
What series was it?
Champion league series?
Yes, um, they showed thatcommercial with just the Yankees
and the Dodgers, that playoffcommercial.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
This is going to be the highest rated podcast
episode for the DeadheadChronicles podcast.
I just want to put that outthere.
Do you guys?
Speaker 5 (13:36):
remember.
Please say yes, yes, yes, yes,yes, yes, yes.
Do you guys remember?
Four teams were still in it,yet there was a playoff
commercial with justhighlighting Otani and Judge.
Why was that?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
They never included Cleveland in any of the
commercials.
What are you talking?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
about Because of Otani and Judge.
They were just again promotingthe biggest players in the
biggest market.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Here's the thing, though, I'm not trying to defend
.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Van Vrij, I don't think somebody put a promo out
early.
That was already done right.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Uh, you know, here's the thing they'll say.
I think the major leaguebaseball, very stupidly and very
dumb, like they are trying topromote the players right now.
They started kind of promotingthe players, but they're doing a
really bad job, right and and Ithink this is where, like it
was very blatantly obvious, it'slike it just it didn't come out
(14:28):
right, like which I get Iunderstand what they're trying
to do.
It's like, hey, we're trying to, we're trying to.
You guys have been asking forus to promote the big names.
Here are the big names.
The problem is you left bignames out of other teams right,
like what.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Where was the love for jram?
Where he when.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
He's been playing outstanding all year.
Not a word on him.
The only person that saidsomething to his credit was
Boone.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
yeah, I was like y'all you guys are keep
underestimating this guy andthis guy is just killing the
ball they didn't, they did notunderestimate jram all the year,
all two years well, the reasonjram didn't make it into any
advertisements is because theytalk to fans like eric prophet
yeah, I can't stand that dudesecond behind.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
But uh, harper.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Second behind Harper.
Oh God.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
See, that's the thing the league has.
I mean the league's got BobbyWitt Jr, they've got Harper,
they've got Ramirez and Class A.
They've got other guys atCleveland, they've got all these
other players.
They just don't push them.
I mean the Padres have got likehalf a dozen guys that should
be totally promoted.
I mean it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
And that's the problem.
They should really talk to theNFL about this.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, right, and that they wouldn't.
You know, like the Super Bowl,for instance, is one game on a
Sunday in February and it's anevent, it's a national event,
regardless of who's playing theWorld Series.
A seven-game series is just notgoing to be that right.
It could end on a Wednesdaynight in Game 5 because of one
(16:07):
bad inning, or it could end on aFriday on Game 7.
So it's like they don't havethe ability to make the World
Series an event the way the NFLdoesfl does with with the super
bowl.
But they also don't have it'snot a national enough game that
you can take a team likemilwaukee and make it as popular
(16:28):
as, say, green bay is in thenfl and it's just like it's.
I don't, I don't.
I don't know how you solve thatproblem.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
If you're, if you're, major league baseball, right
because their marketing dollarsgoes towards the only two guys
that play baseball you gottaadmit it, though Otani is a.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
If I was good, if I'm major league commissioner, I
would be marketing the hell outof Otani right about now already
still, oh, my.
Oh my God, yeah, why not?
He has the market in the US.
He has the market in Japan.
Listen, he is bringing so muchmoney to Major League Baseball
(17:07):
right now.
I would be marketing the hellout of him.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Guys, I don't know if I've mentioned this previously,
but I spent a little bit oftime in Japan this past.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Really, when was that ?
I don't remember that Wow.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
And for real, though, like like you go in the subway
in Tokyo and it's just like.
It's like Shohei Otaniwallpaper, I mean, it was just
everywhere.
The other cool thing was,though, that they had they
actually had a lot ofpromotional stuff for the other
japanese players.
Um, and it was, you know, itwas, it was very cool.
I mean, like to see what.
(17:43):
What happened?
Uh, it was the largest, themost viewers ever for a major
league baseball game in japan,when you, darvish and yamamoto
were pitching against each otherin the playoffs, like that is
super cool, right, like that wasa pretty wild thing.
So yeah, like baseball becomingmore international, which is
(18:04):
something they are veryintentionally doing.
Is this the generals we gothere?
Man, I like that hat trick, val, I've been meaning to ask
because I'm trying to make itout Are you wearing the pimentos
right now?
I am.
It's pretty great.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Val's mad at me because I called her cuckoo
bananas.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
I don't think nobody else thinks this way, but you
know what it's okay, women arealways like that's the hat women
oh, oh, jesus, you justinsulted come on now wait.
That's not what I meant it'snot what I meant.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Here we go.
I didn't't mean to wear a LasVegas hat on an interview with
an A's guy, I just meant.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
F Oakland, who's about to lose their team to Las
Vegas.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I just was saying that Oakland can fall into the
ocean for all I can say.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
That's all I care.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
That's all.
I'm excited to have yourbaseball team here.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Oh, this is so good.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I love this and think of it this way too.
That to paul's point about the?
Uh, the markets.
Um, how many people in uh, youknow, seattle gave a crap about
the world series because it'sthe dodgers and yankees?
How many people in miami evenprobably watched?
I mean's the thing Like he'scomparing it to the Super Bowl,
the teams.
You know people in the citieswith smaller market teams or
(19:23):
didn't make the playoffs.
They're pretty much done withbaseball.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
They could care less, especially because it's the
Yankees and the Dodgers, butthat's the thing is.
I think that it had to be ateam that you're either going to
watch because you love them orwatch because you're going to
hate.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Watch and I hate the word hate, but I hate watch, I
hate watched, right yeah I loveyou, buddy, I hope you guys
noticed, but I did too, and sobut I still want to work with
them like but then, but, thenagain, we, we're more diehard
than the average fan I mean theaverage people could care less
about.
(19:57):
There's so many people that hadno idea.
A lot of people would knowwho's in the Super Bowl, would
have no idea who's playing theWorld Series.
It's just because it's soregional, Even with these bigger
market teams.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
But here's the thing though, to your point, donnie, I
got a lot of people telling melike, oh my God, did you that?
Like the dodgers and theyankees and these are, like you
know, just fair weather fanslike they're just like fans of
the sport that could care less,unlike us, that we will watch
162 games of a season.
These guys will watch maybe 10games because they're at friends
(20:29):
house or something like that,and they're like they were
invested in the in the worldseries because it was two of the
biggest names in baseball but Iwould also say, um, that beyond
teams, a lot of, a lot ofcasual fans, particularly like a
lot of kids growing up now, areplayer centric and not team
centric, right so so, so thelikes of, so they're going to
(20:51):
worry more about.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
They're going to root for whatever team otani plays
for, or they're going to rootfor whatever team otani plays
for, or they're gonna root forwhatever team judge plays for.
So they're not they're notreally married to a team that
they're just gonna.
They're gonna jump to where the, the, the superstars are, or
the ones that, uh, they connectwith on social media or who have
a presence online.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
I also to your point.
Yesnie asked well then, whydidn't the Angels if they had
Otani?
I also think, though, theycan't make it too obvious I mean
, it's the Angels, Like one guyisn't going to do it all on his
own.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
But that's a Los Angeles team.
Why wouldn't they want to goafter that market?
Speaker 5 (21:30):
But it's not the Dodgers, just like the Mets
aren't the Yankees.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Excuse me, it is not just the Los Angeles teams,
there's the Los Angeles Angelsof Anaheim.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Okay, let's say the full name here They've got all
the fans in Anaheim and LosAngeles.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Let's be honest.
If MLB is going to choose oneteam to pick in Texas, it's not
going to be the Rangers.
I've accepted that.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
I picked the Rangers.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yay, you guys would too right.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
I would pick the las vegas uh athletics um well that
was a really good rant and Ifeel so much better I think I
feel like you had this, these,this pent-up, like emotions,
like, just like holding on, justyou know what I think a lot of
it came from the fact that Iknew it was rigged and I just
feel so guilty that as a fan, Ijust I was just like wow, like I
(22:22):
thought last year's WorldSeries was the best World Series
ever.
Now here they are, like tryingto.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
OK.
So here's the thing though youthought it was the best World
Series because you're a fan ofthe Rangers.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
But to be honest with you, you're my friend.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Don't be honest, the best.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
World Series ever was 1991.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Twins and Braves and neither one of them is my team.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
That was a phenomenal World.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Series that probably was one of the best ones 97
World Series where you know likemy team lost and it was a great
series and it went all the wayto the end Game seven, wasn't
that Renteria.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah, great counsel.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Sorry.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
My parents have told me to go talk to someone, so I
really hope they don't listen tothis episode.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, I had no idea that Val was a World Series
denier 2016 was a great World.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Series.
So what you're saying is Ishould just like despise Major
League Baseball as a Yankeesise,major league baseball as a
Yankees fan, because I've been aYankees fan since I was 10
years old, eric agrees so for 46years I've been a Yankees fan.
They have not been in the worldseries.
30 of those 46 years to 15years stretches.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
I mean exactly Again.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I went through an entire career of Don Mattingly
playing non-World Seriesbaseball.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
They can't make it too obvious.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Their man was robbed.
Their man was robbed.
So they went 15 years and thenthey gave the core four their
window and then they wentanother 15 years because they
didn't want to make it obviousagain, by the way, how happy
does don mattingly look exactlybecause, like if you guys suck.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Well, they're not going to be like here, just
still send them.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
like right they drove don mattingly to join the blue
jays I know right, it'll beaaron judge's birth certificate
speaking of that, did you guyssee the story on the about a
dominican kid who was who was 19instead of 14?
Yeah he lost out on millions ofdollars yeah, just for being 19
(24:31):
was?
Speaker 6 (24:32):
it was like the julio franco effect yeah, yeah, a lot
of the.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
And see here's this is the problem with that major
leagueball has right.
Another one is that they'reputting so much stock into the
international pool, right.
They don't have aninternational draft, which they
should, right.
And now they have these playersin the Dominican making lots of
money and falsifying theirbirth certificates in order to
(25:02):
get all that money.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
His agent was Danny Almonte.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
That's a throwback.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
There is a throwback.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
So I like, Guys, this has been a really good
conversation.
I really enjoyed this episodeso much.
Not really, not really, guys,this has been a really good
conversation.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I really enjoyed this episode so much, not really,
not really Val's mad.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Are you about to ask me if pineapple belongs on pizza
?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yes, no, we're not doing any of the other questions
Because it's too many.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
It's not the famous questions.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
There's too many of you to do this.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
How much was Aaron Judge paid to drop that fly?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
ball.
I was just going to say allright, here we go.
How much, how high was GarrettCole that he couldn't run?
Was he high, or was he drunk?
That's what I want to know.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
He just misjudged it.
I like Garrett's answer.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Yes, by the way, can this really be an episode of the
Dad Hat Chronicles if there'sno famous, not so famous
questions?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
We've had it before where there's been no episodes
yeah, when paul and I talkedabout vegas, we didn't have
those questions yeah, I was madabout that.
I like those questions I knowthis is a baseball podcast, but
uh, patrick mahomes just gothurt.
I know I'm watching it rightnow.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Alive carson wins, here he comes oh yeah, carson
wins is still alive.
Yes, he is.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I'm going to Kansas City tomorrow for work, so I'll
check on my homes while I'm upthere.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Carson Wentz is a porcelain doll Sorry.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Oh yeah, that's a good one.
What's the conspiracy theoryfor you in the NFL Val?
Speaker 5 (26:32):
For what?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
What's the conspiracy theory for you, oh?
Speaker 5 (26:34):
my God, don't even get me started, because it's
going to always, always be theChiefs why they're a small
market.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
They're not a major city.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
How many people have jumped on that bandwagon?
How many 14-year-old girls havetuned in just to see Taylor
Swift for two seconds on the TV?
Once they break up, he's goingto lose so many followers and I
think that's going to be thestart of their downfall.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Isn't there a rumor that they're going to be getting
engaged soon?
Speaker 5 (27:00):
No, there's not.
Please, god no.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
She's just mad that Bo Nix isn't with the biggest
celebrity in the world right now.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
We just need to play the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, she's all.
Oh, Hold on a second.
The Carolina Panthers beat the.
The Carolina Panthers not onlybeat the Saints, they fired the
Saints head coach.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Tune in tomorrow to find out, even though this won't
be out before then.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
That's why they need to tune in last week to listen
to the NFL talk on Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Look it up on the YouTube channel.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
You'll see it and is this going to be like a
four-parter?
I feel like we've been talkinga lot.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
We're about an hour and a half in.
This is so good this one wasfun.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I'm excited for next week's too, so I'd like to ask
who is everyone's favorite fornext season?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Wait who's everyone's favorite?
I thought you were about to askon here.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Oh no, who's your favorite?
Speaker 6 (27:59):
I was going to say I'm out.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
For sure, Patrick.
Wait what?
Who is your favorite to win theWorld Series next year?
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Honestly, the Dodgers , because they had so much fun
with it.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I would go if I were betting money on it right now.
I would bet the Mets.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
No.
No Unless they signed someonethat from noteworthy yeah well,
you don't understand, val.
I'm actually friends with thescript writers, so it's uh and
you are shocked this wholeconversation, like you didn't
agree with me once I didn't, I'msorry.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
No, I agree with you about the nfl, but just not
major league Baseball.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
This is so fun.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
I love MLB, but I was really disappointed.
I mean, I'm telling you theguilt I felt.
It was like, okay, fine, thenwe won't ever go to the World
Series ever again, if this iswhat we have to deal with.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I think that we need to get to the heart of what is
plaguing you, val.
I think your guilt over yourteam being in a low-rated World
Series is causing you to lashout, and I think it's
manifesting itself in theseconspiracy theories, and I'm
worried for you.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Well, I hope this episode gets to Rob Manfred, and
I'm sure it does.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
We will tag him in Major League Baseball on this
episode.
What?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
about Eric Thatcher.
What do you guys think?
Seriously, I'm curious what youthink, Just sitting here now
looking ahead to next year firstthought the Sacramento
Athletics Come on.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
The Kansas City Royals.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
No stop, stop lying.
There we go.
I knew I liked that guy for areason.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
You're on here.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Patrick.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
God.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Listen right now.
Until they get eliminated, I'mgonna go with the dodgers yeah I
think the padres are gonnaeliminate the dodgers nature.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
I think the padres would be the favorite to me.
I really, I really like, oh,anyone.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
You know, I don't want to say anything because I
really do want to collaboratewith them one day.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
You guys remember the two teams that I had.
You know, it's just like hey,man, you guys got to watch out
for these two teams DetroitTigers and the San Diego Padres.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
And they both were very dangerous Listen.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I was nervous on that last game.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
I think the Tigers are sneaky good for next year
too.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
And another team I think it was referenced earlier
in the episode, but the PhilliesI think with some of the
additional investment that theymight get from the owners, could
be good.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Paul is like maybe not?
Let's not get ahead ofourselves here.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
And the Royals have some arms coming up through the
system too.
So I think if they could getsome pitching I mean honestly,
the Royals had a pretty goodteam this year and I think if
they could get some pitching- weneed both in arms and then, if
they get I don't know if TylerO'Neal is going to be it, but
they need a new outfieldersomebody they can hit Lorenzo
(30:53):
Cain.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I'd take him.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You mentioned the Tigers.
They need to get rid of JaviBaez.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Or someone needs to have a come-to-Jesus moment with
that guy and say dude, you arenot a home-run hitter, you're a
singles and doubles.
That's what I need you to do.
I do not need you to swing forthe fences, I need you to swing
for the outfield.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
It's Javi Baez.
Do you really think that'sgoing to happen?
Speaker 5 (31:23):
No, and I feel like that's why a team like the
Padres were so competitiveagainst the Dodgers because it
was small ball versus guys justtrying to like get it out of the
park Guys, forget about howimportant small ball is.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
I mean it really is and think what the Padres are
going to do next year with afull season of Luis Urias, or at
least let's hope that LuisUrias gets to finish a season
with the team.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, but here I have this to say yes to pineapple on
pizza.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Burrito over taco.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Amy Adams celebrity crush.
Oh, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Jenny Finch.
Oh, celebrity Crush.
Oh, that's a good one, jennyFinch.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Oh, jenny Finch, and I forget what the last question
was.
What was her from?
Speaker 6 (32:08):
Celebrity Crush Hillary Duff.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Same.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I was a Kathy Ireland guy.
Are you talking about TiffanyAmber Thiessen?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Kelly Kapowski.
Oh yeah, or Britney Spears wasmy girl back in the day too
tiffany till still to this day,beautiful woman mine was mike
vitar um who benny, ben or bennyfrom the sandlot yeah
Speaker 6 (32:37):
oh, benny the jet, hey the jet, rodriguez yeah, I
think he's.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
He's with the la fire department now, so he is a
firefighter he is all right.
So if my car is accidentallyset on fire, next time I'm in la
down here we go.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
There's not gonna be any evidence, guys, don't worry
about that no, um, rob manfredwill will preconceive a way to
have a fire, you know.
So, that way, uh, you know,that way you get to meet your uh
celebrity crush now yay, and Iget to tell him face to face how
I really feel guys.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Thank you so much.
This was a lot of fun.
Make sure that we're followingall of the okay, all of you
people that are listening, allof you 10 that are listening to
this podcast right now.
Make sure that you're listeningto these.
Gentlemen and lady, you're myco-host, but guys, you guys have
been awesome.
You guys are truly, truly,truly wonderful friends for
(33:35):
agreeing to come on last minuteand then listen to Val and her
conspiracy theories.
This was a lot of fun.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
By the way, I do want to make it clear that we love
you, Val.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, we couldn't do this without you.
This episode was.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
I've been wanting to get this off my chest for the
longest and as it kept going, weknow.
I was just like yo.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
I would never say anything to you that would cause
you not to invite me back tothe AAA championship game.
So just let it be known that Iwill always try to stay in your
good graces because of what funwe had at the AAA All-Star game.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Good job, buddy.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
And stay tuned for the spinoff podcast, the Tinfoil
Hat.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Chronicles yeah, the.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Tinfoil hat chronicles.
Yeah, the tinfoil chronicles.
Guys, make sure that you guysare also Tuesday and Thursday
nights, 9 pm Eastern time, theData Chronicles Sports Show with
Patrick, donnie, eric andmyself and sometimes we get Val
talk about Las Vegas and betting.
We will see you guys next week.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I got to run guys.
I got to cook dinner for myfamily here.
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