October 29, 2023 • 12 mins
In a TDA exclusive, Billi FitzSimons sits down with the Queensland Premier to talk about pressing issues in the state. From the cost of living, to youth crime, the Premier's leadership and the Indigenous Voice referendum, today's deep dive will catch you up on what you need to know about the state of play in Queensland.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
My name is Lily Madden and I'm a proud Arunda
Bunjelung Calcottin woman from Gadighl country. The Daily oz acknowledges
that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the
Gadighl people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and Torres
Strait Island and nations. We pay our respects to the
first peoples of these countries, both past and present.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Good morning and welcome to the Daily os. It's Monday,
the thirtieth of October.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm Zara, I'm Billy tda's editor.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Today we are bringing you a very special interview with
Queensland Premier Anastasia Palache.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yes, that's right. I flew to Brisbane last week to
speak to the Premier of Queensland. The stats show that
Queensland is the worst state when it comes to youth
attention capacity.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Well, it's an issue nationally, it's not just unique to Queensland.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Do you accept that it's in terms of capacity at
US attention centers. It's more of an issue here. That's
what the stats show.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
You are correct, there are more people in our youth
detention centers.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
But before we get the vara, what's making headlines this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said the second stage
of the war has begun, detailing the expansion of an
Israeli ground invasion into Gaza. In the same speech, Netanyahu said,
We're going to save our country. According to the Gaza
Health Ministry, seven six hundred and fifty Palestinians have now
(01:23):
been killed by Israeli forces since October seven, when Hamas
launched an attack on Israel. Over the weekend, phone and
internet communications went down across the whole of Gaza due
to air strikes. According to the Associated Press, these communication
channels have now been restored.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Former Chinese Premier Lee Ko Chiang has died age sixty eight,
after suffering a herd attack in Shanghai. Lee held the
role of Premier, the second highest ranking in China, from
twenty thirteen until retiring earlier this year. He died on
Friday after attempts to revive him failed.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Friends actor Matthew Perry has died aged fifty four. According
to TMZ, Perry died from drowning. A statement from Warner Bros.
Television Group, which produced Friends, said the impact of his
comedic genius was felt around the world, and his legacy
will live on in the hearts of so many.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
And in today's good news, the first World Health Organization
approved malaria vaccine has cut deaths among young children by
thirteen percent in the last four years. Malaria is a
life threatening disease bread to humans by some types of mosquitoes.
It's believed that death from malaria could continue to decline
as vaccines and made more widely available. Anastata palishe thank
(02:39):
you so much for joining the daily ours my pleasure.
I want to start really broad in your eyes, what
is the biggest issue facing young people in Queensland today?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
I think the biggest issue facing young people is a
cost of living that's happening right across Queensland and across Australia.
So even buying groceries is expensive, cost of fuel, the
cost of rent, young people thinking about buying their own home.
These are having a big impact on people, especially young people.
(03:10):
I hear it from what I'm out and about talking
in the community, and also unsure about what the future holds,
what career should they go into, how are they going
to make ends meet? Can they travel? Is COVID coming
back again? So I think it's we're living in a
very different world. But hopefully in a few years time
(03:31):
everything will settle down.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Now, you are in support of the Voice referendum, but
Queensland had the highest proportion of no votes. Does that
suggest that you, as a leader are out of touch
with the opinions of the voters in your state.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I think so because it was a national referendum and
that no vote resonated across Australia. Referendums to be successful
usually need bipartisan support and that's been the history of referendums.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Were you surprised by how high the proportion of NO
voters in Queensland specifically.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Were, Well, I think we saw that across the nation.
You know, in the Australian public have spoken and as leaders,
we have to accept that position.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Now, your government has set out a path to establish
a treaty with First Nations people. The opposition did support it.
I think now in the wake of the referendum, the
thing that they won't support it. Are you still committed
to establishing a treaty?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Well, let me say that we passed through legislation and
it was done in a bipartisan manner. We are committed
to the legislation. But what I've said very clearly is
that the next stage is the truth telling stage.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I just want to be really clear though, so you
emphasize that there was bipartisan support. Now the opposition has
said that they don't support the.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Treats, we support our legislation, you're still committed to the
next stage. The next stage is the truth telling which
will be three to five years. Following that, there will
be treaties and that would require bipartisan support.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I just want to understand the bipartisan support because there
are a lot of policies that your government pursues without
having the support of the opposition. So why on this
issue are you insisting you need bipartisan support.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Well, we've seen very clearly that we need to make
sure that truth telling is told cross Queensland.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
But with the treaty, why do you need opposition support?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Well, the opposition need to explain why they have walked
away from this. They need to sit down with the
meres and I've been talking to many of the meres
and explain why they did it.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
But why do you need their support for the treaty
to work?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Well, I think we've seen what's happened with the referendum
not having bipartisan support.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Now, in August, your government past amendments allowing children to
be capta in police watchhouses, even if it would not
be compatible with human rights. How do you justify overriding
young people's human rights?
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Well, what we saw is unfortunately people were taking legal
action against us, which would have meant that some of
these young people who are serious repeat offenders could have
all been released into the community. Since then, I've actually
personally sat down with the Human Rights Commissioner and the
heads of the government agencies and what we are going
to do over the next six to nine months is
(06:26):
build a dedicated romand facility so there won't be any
need for young people to be held in watchhouses for
any lengthy period of time.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
My understanding is that the initial amendment said that the
need to override human rights will expire in twenty twenty six,
but you just said it was nine months.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Well, whenever it's completed sometime next year and then we'll
be able to repeal that.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
So how confident are you that it will be repealed
next year? Then?
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Very confident.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
The starts show that Queensland is the worst state when
it comes to ut attention capacity such a problem in Queensland.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Well, it's an issue nationally. It's not just unique to Queensland, except.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
That it's in terms of capacity at youth attention centers.
It's more of an issue here. That's what the stats show.
You are correct.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
There are more people in our youth detention centers. That's
why we're establishing therapeutic centers. Our best evidence shows us
if you have smaller centers, we can get access to
mental health, to reskilling and training, access to first nations
elders where applicable. That will help stop the rates of reoffending.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
The solution of building more youth detention centers addresses the
out of the issue, but it doesn't address the cause.
What is your government doing to address the cause of
youth crime.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Well, we have got quite a few early intervention and
prevention programs that are now starting to work. We've got
some work happening in the Education department about getting kids
back into school. But some kids can't do mainstream schools.
We've got to have wrap around services. We've got a
great program in townsw at the moment. It's called Stronger
(08:02):
Communities and what that means is all of the agencies
are coming together and they're working with the families. They're
working with the families of the young people who are
troubled and putting services around them and helping to stop
that reoffending rate. So you know, these services and early
intervention prevention programs take time.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I want to move to. Housing is a big issue
in Queensland, as it is for the rest of the country.
What is your plan to make housing more affordable again.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Housing is a national issue and there's issues of supply.
The issue Queensland has is one hundred and forty thousand
people moved here last year. We have a really strong
economy here and Queensland is a very attractive place for
people to live, but one hundred and forty thousand people
moving here is putting a whole lot of pressure on
(08:54):
our housing stock. So what we've done is we've identified
where the new areas are so there's more housing happening there.
We've put in new roads, for example in Caloundra and
the road was put in ten years ahead of schedule,
which means now we can open up another housing development area.
The Deputy Premiere has released an Southeast Queensland Regional Plan
(09:18):
making sure that the mayors know these are the population
projections and you need to look at now how you
are going to meet the requirements needed for the future
population pressures.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Now, Queensland has a target to reduce greenhouse gas emissions
by thirty percent below two thousand and five levels, and
that's below the target set by the federal government as
well as many other state governments. Might not be more ambitious.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Well, can I start with our energy and jobs plan?
So we have launched the most comprehensive energy and jobs
plan in the nation. We're looking at seventy percent renewable
energy by twenty thirty two. It's ambitious. We're at twenty
six percent and we are absolutely changing the landscape of
Queensland and how we get our power. This is a
(10:05):
massive transformation now in relation to emissions reduction targets. Our
government will have a lot more to say about that
in the new year. We're just getting in some more
modeling and I'm looking forward to being able to deliver
some more good news in that space.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
So are you saying that the target will change.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Now, you are the last remaining state leader in Australia
from the pandemic era. You led the state through COVID,
which other leaders have said took a massive toll on them.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Are you exhausted, No, I'm not exhausted. COVID was something
I think it's crossed once in a lifetime. It was
a very testing time and a time in my life
that I will never forget. But I am energized every
day by the people in our state.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
You just had a holiday and you were criticized for
it in the media. Does that take its toll when
you feel like you can't even take a holiday without
being criticized.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Well, they don't do it to me, so I'll let
your listeners think about that.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
There have been a number of state leaders who have
departed their roles midterm. That was Daniel Andrews, Mark McGowan
even just into ajourn in New Zealand. Is it an
option for you that you take labor to the next election.
Let's say you win and then you leave midterm.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
No, No, I'm absolutely commitsed.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Well, you are the Minister for Olympics, so does that
mean that we can expect to see you in the
position in twenty thirty two.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Let's not go there.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
And a stage of paliche. Thank you so much for
joining the Daily ours.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Thank you, it's my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Thanks very much for listening to this episode of The
Daily oas I think it's a real privilege for us
to be able to interview the decision makers and the
powermakers in this country, and it's all thanks to you
that we are in a position to do so. If
you have enjoyed this episode, we would love if you
could leave us a review if you're listening on Apple Podcast,
(12:01):
have a great day and we'll be back again tomorrow.
My name is Lily Madden and I'm a proud Arunda
Bunjelung Calcottin woman from Gadighl country. The Daily oz acknowledges
that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the
Gadighl people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and Torres
Strait Island and nations. We pay our respects to the
first peoples of these countries, both past and present.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Good morning and welcome to the Daily os. It's Monday,
the thirtieth of October.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm Zara, I'm Billy tda's editor.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Today we are bringing you a very special interview with
Queensland Premier Anastasia Palache.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yes, that's right. I flew to Brisbane last week to
speak to the Premier of Queensland. The stats show that
Queensland is the worst state when it comes to youth
attention capacity.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Well, it's an issue nationally, it's not just unique to Queensland.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Do you accept that it's in terms of capacity at
US attention centers. It's more of an issue here. That's
what the stats show.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
You are correct, there are more people in our youth
detention centers.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
But before we get the vara, what's making headlines this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said the second stage
of the war has begun, detailing the expansion of an
Israeli ground invasion into Gaza. In the same speech, Netanyahu said,
We're going to save our country. According to the Gaza
Health Ministry, seven six hundred and fifty Palestinians have now
(01:23):
been killed by Israeli forces since October seven, when Hamas
launched an attack on Israel. Over the weekend, phone and
internet communications went down across the whole of Gaza due
to air strikes. According to the Associated Press, these communication
channels have now been restored.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Former Chinese Premier Lee Ko Chiang has died age sixty eight,
after suffering a herd attack in Shanghai. Lee held the
role of Premier, the second highest ranking in China, from
twenty thirteen until retiring earlier this year. He died on
Friday after attempts to revive him failed.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Friends actor Matthew Perry has died aged fifty four. According
to TMZ, Perry died from drowning. A statement from Warner Bros.
Television Group, which produced Friends, said the impact of his
comedic genius was felt around the world, and his legacy
will live on in the hearts of so many.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
And in today's good news, the first World Health Organization
approved malaria vaccine has cut deaths among young children by
thirteen percent in the last four years. Malaria is a
life threatening disease bread to humans by some types of mosquitoes.
It's believed that death from malaria could continue to decline
as vaccines and made more widely available. Anastata palishe thank
(02:39):
you so much for joining the daily ours my pleasure.
I want to start really broad in your eyes, what
is the biggest issue facing young people in Queensland today?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
I think the biggest issue facing young people is a
cost of living that's happening right across Queensland and across Australia.
So even buying groceries is expensive, cost of fuel, the
cost of rent, young people thinking about buying their own home.
These are having a big impact on people, especially young people.
(03:10):
I hear it from what I'm out and about talking
in the community, and also unsure about what the future holds,
what career should they go into, how are they going
to make ends meet? Can they travel? Is COVID coming
back again? So I think it's we're living in a
very different world. But hopefully in a few years time
(03:31):
everything will settle down.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Now, you are in support of the Voice referendum, but
Queensland had the highest proportion of no votes. Does that
suggest that you, as a leader are out of touch
with the opinions of the voters in your state.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I think so because it was a national referendum and
that no vote resonated across Australia. Referendums to be successful
usually need bipartisan support and that's been the history of referendums.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Were you surprised by how high the proportion of NO
voters in Queensland specifically.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Were, Well, I think we saw that across the nation.
You know, in the Australian public have spoken and as leaders,
we have to accept that position.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Now, your government has set out a path to establish
a treaty with First Nations people. The opposition did support it.
I think now in the wake of the referendum, the
thing that they won't support it. Are you still committed
to establishing a treaty?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Well, let me say that we passed through legislation and
it was done in a bipartisan manner. We are committed
to the legislation. But what I've said very clearly is
that the next stage is the truth telling stage.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I just want to be really clear though, so you
emphasize that there was bipartisan support. Now the opposition has
said that they don't support the.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Treats, we support our legislation, you're still committed to the
next stage. The next stage is the truth telling which
will be three to five years. Following that, there will
be treaties and that would require bipartisan support.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I just want to understand the bipartisan support because there
are a lot of policies that your government pursues without
having the support of the opposition. So why on this
issue are you insisting you need bipartisan support.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Well, we've seen very clearly that we need to make
sure that truth telling is told cross Queensland.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
But with the treaty, why do you need opposition support?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Well, the opposition need to explain why they have walked
away from this. They need to sit down with the
meres and I've been talking to many of the meres
and explain why they did it.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
But why do you need their support for the treaty
to work?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Well, I think we've seen what's happened with the referendum
not having bipartisan support.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Now, in August, your government past amendments allowing children to
be capta in police watchhouses, even if it would not
be compatible with human rights. How do you justify overriding
young people's human rights?
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Well, what we saw is unfortunately people were taking legal
action against us, which would have meant that some of
these young people who are serious repeat offenders could have
all been released into the community. Since then, I've actually
personally sat down with the Human Rights Commissioner and the
heads of the government agencies and what we are going
to do over the next six to nine months is
(06:26):
build a dedicated romand facility so there won't be any
need for young people to be held in watchhouses for
any lengthy period of time.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
My understanding is that the initial amendment said that the
need to override human rights will expire in twenty twenty six,
but you just said it was nine months.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Well, whenever it's completed sometime next year and then we'll
be able to repeal that.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
So how confident are you that it will be repealed
next year? Then?
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Very confident.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
The starts show that Queensland is the worst state when
it comes to ut attention capacity such a problem in Queensland.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Well, it's an issue nationally. It's not just unique to Queensland, except.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
That it's in terms of capacity at youth attention centers.
It's more of an issue here. That's what the stats show.
You are correct.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
There are more people in our youth detention centers. That's
why we're establishing therapeutic centers. Our best evidence shows us
if you have smaller centers, we can get access to
mental health, to reskilling and training, access to first nations
elders where applicable. That will help stop the rates of reoffending.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
The solution of building more youth detention centers addresses the
out of the issue, but it doesn't address the cause.
What is your government doing to address the cause of
youth crime.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Well, we have got quite a few early intervention and
prevention programs that are now starting to work. We've got
some work happening in the Education department about getting kids
back into school. But some kids can't do mainstream schools.
We've got to have wrap around services. We've got a
great program in townsw at the moment. It's called Stronger
(08:02):
Communities and what that means is all of the agencies
are coming together and they're working with the families. They're
working with the families of the young people who are
troubled and putting services around them and helping to stop
that reoffending rate. So you know, these services and early
intervention prevention programs take time.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I want to move to. Housing is a big issue
in Queensland, as it is for the rest of the country.
What is your plan to make housing more affordable again.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Housing is a national issue and there's issues of supply.
The issue Queensland has is one hundred and forty thousand
people moved here last year. We have a really strong
economy here and Queensland is a very attractive place for
people to live, but one hundred and forty thousand people
moving here is putting a whole lot of pressure on
(08:54):
our housing stock. So what we've done is we've identified
where the new areas are so there's more housing happening there.
We've put in new roads, for example in Caloundra and
the road was put in ten years ahead of schedule,
which means now we can open up another housing development area.
The Deputy Premiere has released an Southeast Queensland Regional Plan
(09:18):
making sure that the mayors know these are the population
projections and you need to look at now how you
are going to meet the requirements needed for the future
population pressures.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Now, Queensland has a target to reduce greenhouse gas emissions
by thirty percent below two thousand and five levels, and
that's below the target set by the federal government as
well as many other state governments. Might not be more ambitious.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Well, can I start with our energy and jobs plan?
So we have launched the most comprehensive energy and jobs
plan in the nation. We're looking at seventy percent renewable
energy by twenty thirty two. It's ambitious. We're at twenty
six percent and we are absolutely changing the landscape of
Queensland and how we get our power. This is a
(10:05):
massive transformation now in relation to emissions reduction targets. Our
government will have a lot more to say about that
in the new year. We're just getting in some more
modeling and I'm looking forward to being able to deliver
some more good news in that space.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
So are you saying that the target will change.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Now, you are the last remaining state leader in Australia
from the pandemic era. You led the state through COVID,
which other leaders have said took a massive toll on them.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Are you exhausted, No, I'm not exhausted. COVID was something
I think it's crossed once in a lifetime. It was
a very testing time and a time in my life
that I will never forget. But I am energized every
day by the people in our state.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
You just had a holiday and you were criticized for
it in the media. Does that take its toll when
you feel like you can't even take a holiday without
being criticized.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Well, they don't do it to me, so I'll let
your listeners think about that.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
There have been a number of state leaders who have
departed their roles midterm. That was Daniel Andrews, Mark McGowan
even just into ajourn in New Zealand. Is it an
option for you that you take labor to the next election.
Let's say you win and then you leave midterm.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
No, No, I'm absolutely commitsed.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Well, you are the Minister for Olympics, so does that
mean that we can expect to see you in the
position in twenty thirty two.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Let's not go there.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
And a stage of paliche. Thank you so much for
joining the Daily ours.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Thank you, it's my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Thanks very much for listening to this episode of The
Daily oas I think it's a real privilege for us
to be able to interview the decision makers and the
powermakers in this country, and it's all thanks to you
that we are in a position to do so. If
you have enjoyed this episode, we would love if you
could leave us a review if you're listening on Apple Podcast,
(12:01):
have a great day and we'll be back again tomorrow.
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