May 7, 2025 • 14 mins
Over the weekend, there was a federal election in Australia. At that election, Labor won a significant majority, while the Coalition had their standing in Parliament weakened considerably. While much of the media’s attention has been on the major parties, in today’s podcast we’re going to talk about how the Greens fared.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS. Oh,
now it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Thursday,
the eighth of May.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I'm Zara Seidler, I'm Sam Kazlowski.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Over the weekend, you might have known that there was
a federal election here in Australia's I know. At that election,
you might also know that Labour won a significant majority,
while the Coalition had their standing in Parliament weakened considerably. Now,
whilst most of the media's attention has been on how
the major parties fared, in today's podcast, we're going to
(00:42):
shift focus a bit and talk about the biggest minor
party in Australia's Parliament, the Greens, and what their results
look like over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Before we jump into how the Greens did this year's
are I think it's so helpful to look at a
bit of a context of where they've come from, because
there's been a lot of chat about the Greens in
the Parliament that's just been Yeah, give me a sense
of the last term. Yeah, in terms of how the
Greens were placed in Australian politics.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
That is a good place to start because I guess
what you end the last term of parliament with is
what you enter the election season with. So let's just
break it down quickly. Basically, what you need to know
is that the Greens had a really good election in
twenty twenty two. They labeled their success at that election
as a green slide and that language was kind of
(01:32):
picked up. I think we probably used it as well
on election night in twenty twenty two, and that was
because at that election they won the seats of Brisbane
and Ryan from the Coalition and the seat of Griffith
from Labor, so they grew quite significantly at that last
election in the House of Representatives.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Do you think we should agree that politics should introduce
some more creative you know, describing words than green slide,
tier wave, labour, land slide, Like, there's a lot of
just movement of earth going on, lots.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Of movement of the earth. I've never actually thought about
that anyway, Maybe we can have a whole podcast dedicated
to ideas for how to talk about parties.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And how they electure media.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So basically, again, as I said, really good election in
twenty twenty to four seats in the House of Representatives,
and then when we moved to the Senate. At the
twenty twenty two election, the Greens ended up with twelve
senators and that was particularly significant at the time because
while Labor had a majority of seats in the lower house,
they still needed support from the Greens and the cross
(02:36):
Bench in the upper house in order to pass contentious legislation.
And so the Greens had quite a major role in
the last Parliament when it came to either helping or
hindering Labor with their policy outcomes. The Greens did, I
will just say, lose a senator in Lydia Thorpe. You
might remember that she left the Greens and went to
(02:56):
sit on the crossbend. And so they came into this
election with eleven Senators and with four House of Representative MPs.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
And leading up to the election, the party's leader, Adam
bant He was saying that the goal for the Greens
was nine seats in twenty twenty five and so that's
you know, they were really enthused by where they were
and where they were going this election. Yeah, but talk
to me about how they placed themselves in the lead
up to the election in terms of their key message
(03:26):
to voters and their aspirations.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, So on a policy front, I think it's difficult to,
I guess pick out a main one because the Greens
went to the election with a kind of scatter gun
of different policies that were trying to persuade voters across
the country, like both of the major parties did. I'd
say the one that randomly stood out to me because
it was pushed a lot on social media was their
(03:50):
policy to expand Medicare to include dental. Anyone who has
TikTok would have seen the videos and photos of Adam
Band surrounded by influencers holding these huge, life size toothbrushes,
and that was part of selling this policy around dental
being included in Medicare. They also went to the election,
and Billy and I have spoken about this at length,
(04:10):
but they went to the election calling for university and
taste to be completely free, for all student debt to
be wiped. They wanted no new coal and gas mines
to be built. They wanted fifty cent public transport fees
across the country. And they also spent quite a lot
of time, especially in some of those key seeds, campaigning
around the war in Gaza, and that became quite a
(04:31):
hallmark of their campaign, just in terms of I guess
zooming out a bit and thinking about what their campaign
looked like from the outside. I think one thing that
was really notable was their inclusion of influences. Traditional media
has spent weeks and months talking about this, so I
don't want to talk about it too much, but I
do think that it's significant how many influencers and content
(04:53):
creators they had doing content for them on socials, doing
events for them. We saw Abby Chatfield host events with
Adam Bant DJing like this was an election where the
Greens were really leaning into new media and influences. I'd say,
unlike any other election season that I've seen.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
We'll be back with the rest of the deep dive
after a quick message from our sponsor. And so that's
some of the contexts that built up to Saturday's vote.
Then Australians go to the polls. How did the Greens go?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I think the answer is basically that it was a
mixed bag for the Greens. The TLDR is that they
did badly in the House of Representatives to the Low
House in the lower House yep, and then they did
better in the Senate. We'll start with the House first, because,
as we've mentioned before, that is where government is formed.
So according to the Australian Electoral Commission's results, the Greens
(05:51):
vote for the Lower House declined by zero point five
percent nationally, and at the time of recording, they haven't
secured a single seat in the House. They've already conceded
two seats, the seats of Griffith and Brisbane, while Melbourne's
been called for Labor and Ryan is the only seat
that hasn't been confirmed by analysts yet.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Okay, so best case scenario, they're going to come out
of this with one seat in the Lower House.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
That's what it's looking like. Yeah. And when it comes
to explaining why the Greens have struggled to retain their seats,
because the two people, the two MPs that lost their seats,
have done a bit of this explaining or tried to
do a bit of this explaining, it is obviously impossible
to give one reason. You know, no one voter turns
out differently to another voter for any single reason. But
(06:38):
I do think that a big thing that's being spoken
about based on the vote counts is that low support
for the Liberal Party has actually hurt the Greens.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Which is a complicated idea actually make countersuity. Yeah, yeah,
but it does go to a system where there's two
major parties and that can affect the Greens. Spelled that
out for me though a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, I mean, you're totally right thinking you'd expect that
if the Liberal parties vote tanked, that would be a
good thing for the Greens because they're on either sides
of the political spectrum. But that's not what's happened, as
you just said, because of our preferential voting system. So
let me just unpack it. When it comes to the
lower House seats like Griffith or Brisbane, the Greens are
(07:18):
mostly locked in three cornered races with Labor and the
Liberal Party, and so broadly speaking, each of the three
parties receives about a third of the votes in those seats.
Under the preferential system, the candidate the finishes third will
have their preferences flow to the final two contenders. Got it,
(07:40):
You didn't speak, so I wasn't sure if you understanding here.
So yeah, if so one, two, three, and then the
third person they're out and their preferences flow upwards. And
so if we take the seat at Griffith, for example,
the Liberal Party ended in third place there and then
what happened was the Liberals preferences flowed to Labor more
than they flowed to the Greens, which meant that Labour
(08:01):
was able to win the seat overall based on the
preferences that actually came from the Liberal Party.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And that's a really interesting new dynamic to some of
these seats that had, you know, for the first time
just elected a Green's representative. Yeah, with almost a two
horse race. Now it became more of a three horse race,
and a combination of Liberal and Labor preferences overcame two
of those seats, particularly in Queensland. One seat that everyone's
(08:27):
been talking about though in particular is the seat of Melbourne,
and that's the seat that was held by Adam Band.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yes was being the operative term there.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, a big day yesterday, it was.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
So yesterday afternoon we found out that analysts are projecting,
based on preferences, that Adam Band will lose the seat
of Melbourne. Now, Adam Band is the leader of the Greens.
He's held the seat of Melbourne since twenty ten and
he did hold it on a fairly healthy margin. He
was sitting on around six point five percent margin heading
(08:59):
into the election, though there was a small redistribution that
affected that. But what we've seen at this election is
that there's been quite a swing away from Adam Bant
and away from the Greens in the seat of Melbourne
and that's led to, like we've seen in similar seats
around the country, the Greens losing Melbourne to Labor. And
so now the new member for Melbourne will now be
(09:21):
or it's expected to be Sarah Whitty from the Labor Party.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
It's a pretty remarkable election that there are two leaders
of two political parties you've lost their seats.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I mean, I'm not going to fact check myself live,
but it's pretty rare.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It's pretty rare.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I don't know, it probably happened before, I don't know,
but it's pretty rare.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And I think the Greens will be trying to figure out.
You know, this is an inner city seat in a
capital city that is kind of where the Greens have
established themselves as a party with real sway.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, this will be a shock.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
To them, definitely, and I mean it's clearly not the
result that the Greens are looking for in the Lower House.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I guess there is a little bit of good news
for the Greens in the Upper House though right.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, there is. There is better news for them where
in the Upper House they are set to retain all
eleven Senators. I'll just put a caveat there. Not all
eleven were up for reelection. Remember that only half the
Senate except for the territories. Super confusing, but only half
the Senate is up for reelection at this election. But
(10:24):
the Greens are on track to maintain the eleven that
they went in with. And in the states of New
South Wales, South Australia and Tasmania, the Greens recorded a
swing towards them, so a positive swing which means more
people were voting for them. Now, as you would understand,
given the results in the House perhaps not being what
the Greens were hoping, Adam Bant, as leader, has been
(10:47):
really focusing on their results in the Upper House and
what it means, and so he said that they will
retain the balance of power in the Senate and I
just want to unpack with yeah, so right now it
looks like the government so Labor will only need the
Greens in order to pass legislation. So as I said
(11:08):
last parliament, Labour didn't have enough seats to pass things
through that were contentious by themselves. They needed the Greens,
but then they also needed a number of crossbenches, other
cross benches, I should say. And so what we're saying
now is that Labor have actually increased the number of
seats they have in the Senate, so now they only
rely on the Greens, which in a kind of backwards way,
(11:28):
means that the Greens hold a lot more power in
the Senate this time around. Or that's what Adam Bant
is saying. So he's trying to highlight the fact that
the Greens can reject or approve certain pieces of legislation
and as I said, either help or hinder the government
when it comes to their legislative agenda. There but again,
(11:48):
and I know that this caveat is so boring. Counting continues,
things change. We don't know the overall composition of the House,
we don't know the overall composition of the Senate. What
we do know though, is that the Greens perhaps did
not end up with the results that they were wanting
at this election, and just like the Liberal Party will
be doing a bit of soul searching it'll be interesting
(12:10):
to understand what the Greens see is the takeaways from
the results at Saturday's election.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
It was interesting to hear some of the comments made
by Max Chandeler Mayso, who lost his seat of Griffith.
He was talking to Triple j's Dave Markesy yesterday for
his first kind of statement after losing a seat, which
is a pretty traumatic thing to go through, and he
spoke about the emotional side of that. But one thing
he said when he was asked about the reasons why
(12:36):
and why people perhaps in his seat in particular, turned
away from the Greens, he answered with that two party
phenomenon that you were talking about before, that when the
Labor Party and Liberal Party combined in their preferences and
the preference flows and in the way that they discourage
people both, the one thing they agreed on was how
(12:57):
much they didn't want the Greens to win. That that
was almost too much to overcome for him. And it's
a really interesting aspect of our political system. We get
so caught up in the Liberal vs. Labor of battles
that there's some really interesting patterns emerging in some of
the minor parties as well.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, definitely one to keep an eye on, and certainly
once more of those seats are called, we will be
sure to update listeners.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Thank you so much for that, Zara, and thank you
for joining us on TDA. Oh my gosh, what a
couple of weeks of journalism it's been for us. We're
so excited by what we've been able to achieve in
covering the twenty twenty five federal.
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Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS. Oh,
now it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Thursday,
the eighth of May.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I'm Zara Seidler, I'm Sam Kazlowski.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Over the weekend, you might have known that there was
a federal election here in Australia's I know. At that election,
you might also know that Labour won a significant majority,
while the Coalition had their standing in Parliament weakened considerably. Now,
whilst most of the media's attention has been on how
the major parties fared, in today's podcast, we're going to
(00:42):
shift focus a bit and talk about the biggest minor
party in Australia's Parliament, the Greens, and what their results
look like over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Before we jump into how the Greens did this year's
are I think it's so helpful to look at a
bit of a context of where they've come from, because
there's been a lot of chat about the Greens in
the Parliament that's just been Yeah, give me a sense
of the last term. Yeah, in terms of how the
Greens were placed in Australian politics.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
That is a good place to start because I guess
what you end the last term of parliament with is
what you enter the election season with. So let's just
break it down quickly. Basically, what you need to know
is that the Greens had a really good election in
twenty twenty two. They labeled their success at that election
as a green slide and that language was kind of
(01:32):
picked up. I think we probably used it as well
on election night in twenty twenty two, and that was
because at that election they won the seats of Brisbane
and Ryan from the Coalition and the seat of Griffith
from Labor, so they grew quite significantly at that last
election in the House of Representatives.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Do you think we should agree that politics should introduce
some more creative you know, describing words than green slide,
tier wave, labour, land slide, Like, there's a lot of
just movement of earth going on, lots.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Of movement of the earth. I've never actually thought about
that anyway, Maybe we can have a whole podcast dedicated
to ideas for how to talk about parties.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And how they electure media.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So basically, again, as I said, really good election in
twenty twenty to four seats in the House of Representatives,
and then when we moved to the Senate. At the
twenty twenty two election, the Greens ended up with twelve
senators and that was particularly significant at the time because
while Labor had a majority of seats in the lower house,
they still needed support from the Greens and the cross
(02:36):
Bench in the upper house in order to pass contentious legislation.
And so the Greens had quite a major role in
the last Parliament when it came to either helping or
hindering Labor with their policy outcomes. The Greens did, I
will just say, lose a senator in Lydia Thorpe. You
might remember that she left the Greens and went to
(02:56):
sit on the crossbend. And so they came into this
election with eleven Senators and with four House of Representative MPs.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
And leading up to the election, the party's leader, Adam
bant He was saying that the goal for the Greens
was nine seats in twenty twenty five and so that's
you know, they were really enthused by where they were
and where they were going this election. Yeah, but talk
to me about how they placed themselves in the lead
up to the election in terms of their key message
(03:26):
to voters and their aspirations.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, So on a policy front, I think it's difficult to,
I guess pick out a main one because the Greens
went to the election with a kind of scatter gun
of different policies that were trying to persuade voters across
the country, like both of the major parties did. I'd
say the one that randomly stood out to me because
it was pushed a lot on social media was their
(03:50):
policy to expand Medicare to include dental. Anyone who has
TikTok would have seen the videos and photos of Adam
Band surrounded by influencers holding these huge, life size toothbrushes,
and that was part of selling this policy around dental
being included in Medicare. They also went to the election,
and Billy and I have spoken about this at length,
(04:10):
but they went to the election calling for university and
taste to be completely free, for all student debt to
be wiped. They wanted no new coal and gas mines
to be built. They wanted fifty cent public transport fees
across the country. And they also spent quite a lot
of time, especially in some of those key seeds, campaigning
around the war in Gaza, and that became quite a
(04:31):
hallmark of their campaign, just in terms of I guess
zooming out a bit and thinking about what their campaign
looked like from the outside. I think one thing that
was really notable was their inclusion of influences. Traditional media
has spent weeks and months talking about this, so I
don't want to talk about it too much, but I
do think that it's significant how many influencers and content
(04:53):
creators they had doing content for them on socials, doing
events for them. We saw Abby Chatfield host events with
Adam Bant DJing like this was an election where the
Greens were really leaning into new media and influences. I'd say,
unlike any other election season that I've seen.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
We'll be back with the rest of the deep dive
after a quick message from our sponsor. And so that's
some of the contexts that built up to Saturday's vote.
Then Australians go to the polls. How did the Greens go?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I think the answer is basically that it was a
mixed bag for the Greens. The TLDR is that they
did badly in the House of Representatives to the Low
House in the lower House yep, and then they did
better in the Senate. We'll start with the House first, because,
as we've mentioned before, that is where government is formed.
So according to the Australian Electoral Commission's results, the Greens
(05:51):
vote for the Lower House declined by zero point five
percent nationally, and at the time of recording, they haven't
secured a single seat in the House. They've already conceded
two seats, the seats of Griffith and Brisbane, while Melbourne's
been called for Labor and Ryan is the only seat
that hasn't been confirmed by analysts yet.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Okay, so best case scenario, they're going to come out
of this with one seat in the Lower House.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
That's what it's looking like. Yeah. And when it comes
to explaining why the Greens have struggled to retain their seats,
because the two people, the two MPs that lost their seats,
have done a bit of this explaining or tried to
do a bit of this explaining, it is obviously impossible
to give one reason. You know, no one voter turns
out differently to another voter for any single reason. But
(06:38):
I do think that a big thing that's being spoken
about based on the vote counts is that low support
for the Liberal Party has actually hurt the Greens.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Which is a complicated idea actually make countersuity. Yeah, yeah,
but it does go to a system where there's two
major parties and that can affect the Greens. Spelled that
out for me though a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, I mean, you're totally right thinking you'd expect that
if the Liberal parties vote tanked, that would be a
good thing for the Greens because they're on either sides
of the political spectrum. But that's not what's happened, as
you just said, because of our preferential voting system. So
let me just unpack it. When it comes to the
lower House seats like Griffith or Brisbane, the Greens are
(07:18):
mostly locked in three cornered races with Labor and the
Liberal Party, and so broadly speaking, each of the three
parties receives about a third of the votes in those seats.
Under the preferential system, the candidate the finishes third will
have their preferences flow to the final two contenders. Got it,
(07:40):
You didn't speak, so I wasn't sure if you understanding here.
So yeah, if so one, two, three, and then the
third person they're out and their preferences flow upwards. And
so if we take the seat at Griffith, for example,
the Liberal Party ended in third place there and then
what happened was the Liberals preferences flowed to Labor more
than they flowed to the Greens, which meant that Labour
(08:01):
was able to win the seat overall based on the
preferences that actually came from the Liberal Party.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And that's a really interesting new dynamic to some of
these seats that had, you know, for the first time
just elected a Green's representative. Yeah, with almost a two
horse race. Now it became more of a three horse race,
and a combination of Liberal and Labor preferences overcame two
of those seats, particularly in Queensland. One seat that everyone's
(08:27):
been talking about though in particular is the seat of Melbourne,
and that's the seat that was held by Adam Band.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yes was being the operative term there.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, a big day yesterday, it was.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
So yesterday afternoon we found out that analysts are projecting,
based on preferences, that Adam Band will lose the seat
of Melbourne. Now, Adam Band is the leader of the Greens.
He's held the seat of Melbourne since twenty ten and
he did hold it on a fairly healthy margin. He
was sitting on around six point five percent margin heading
(08:59):
into the election, though there was a small redistribution that
affected that. But what we've seen at this election is
that there's been quite a swing away from Adam Bant
and away from the Greens in the seat of Melbourne
and that's led to, like we've seen in similar seats
around the country, the Greens losing Melbourne to Labor. And
so now the new member for Melbourne will now be
(09:21):
or it's expected to be Sarah Whitty from the Labor Party.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
It's a pretty remarkable election that there are two leaders
of two political parties you've lost their seats.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I mean, I'm not going to fact check myself live,
but it's pretty rare.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It's pretty rare.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I don't know, it probably happened before, I don't know,
but it's pretty rare.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And I think the Greens will be trying to figure out.
You know, this is an inner city seat in a
capital city that is kind of where the Greens have
established themselves as a party with real sway.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, this will be a shock.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
To them, definitely, and I mean it's clearly not the
result that the Greens are looking for in the Lower House.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I guess there is a little bit of good news
for the Greens in the Upper House though right.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, there is. There is better news for them where
in the Upper House they are set to retain all
eleven Senators. I'll just put a caveat there. Not all
eleven were up for reelection. Remember that only half the
Senate except for the territories. Super confusing, but only half
the Senate is up for reelection at this election. But
(10:24):
the Greens are on track to maintain the eleven that
they went in with. And in the states of New
South Wales, South Australia and Tasmania, the Greens recorded a
swing towards them, so a positive swing which means more
people were voting for them. Now, as you would understand,
given the results in the House perhaps not being what
the Greens were hoping, Adam Bant, as leader, has been
(10:47):
really focusing on their results in the Upper House and
what it means, and so he said that they will
retain the balance of power in the Senate and I
just want to unpack with yeah, so right now it
looks like the government so Labor will only need the
Greens in order to pass legislation. So as I said
(11:08):
last parliament, Labour didn't have enough seats to pass things
through that were contentious by themselves. They needed the Greens,
but then they also needed a number of crossbenches, other
cross benches, I should say. And so what we're saying
now is that Labor have actually increased the number of
seats they have in the Senate, so now they only
rely on the Greens, which in a kind of backwards way,
(11:28):
means that the Greens hold a lot more power in
the Senate this time around. Or that's what Adam Bant
is saying. So he's trying to highlight the fact that
the Greens can reject or approve certain pieces of legislation
and as I said, either help or hinder the government
when it comes to their legislative agenda. There but again,
(11:48):
and I know that this caveat is so boring. Counting continues,
things change. We don't know the overall composition of the House,
we don't know the overall composition of the Senate. What
we do know though, is that the Greens perhaps did
not end up with the results that they were wanting
at this election, and just like the Liberal Party will
be doing a bit of soul searching it'll be interesting
(12:10):
to understand what the Greens see is the takeaways from
the results at Saturday's election.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
It was interesting to hear some of the comments made
by Max Chandeler Mayso, who lost his seat of Griffith.
He was talking to Triple j's Dave Markesy yesterday for
his first kind of statement after losing a seat, which
is a pretty traumatic thing to go through, and he
spoke about the emotional side of that. But one thing
he said when he was asked about the reasons why
(12:36):
and why people perhaps in his seat in particular, turned
away from the Greens, he answered with that two party
phenomenon that you were talking about before, that when the
Labor Party and Liberal Party combined in their preferences and
the preference flows and in the way that they discourage
people both, the one thing they agreed on was how
(12:57):
much they didn't want the Greens to win. That that
was almost too much to overcome for him. And it's
a really interesting aspect of our political system. We get
so caught up in the Liberal vs. Labor of battles
that there's some really interesting patterns emerging in some of
the minor parties as well.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, definitely one to keep an eye on, and certainly
once more of those seats are called, we will be
sure to update listeners.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Thank you so much for that, Zara, and thank you
for joining us on TDA. Oh my gosh, what a
couple of weeks of journalism it's been for us. We're
so excited by what we've been able to achieve in
covering the twenty twenty five federal.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Election, but we still have lots of work to do.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
We have a new parliament to cover and the best
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proud Arunda Banjelung Kalgotin woman from Gadighl country. The Daily
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