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June 11, 2025 16 mins

Protests on the streets of LA are continuing, after the city's mayor announced a curfew and state of emergency. Demonstrations have been escalating since Friday, when federal immigration authorities launched widespread raids in downtown LA. In response to the protests, U.S. President Donald Trump has deployed the national guard and marines, a decision that has been contested by California Governor Gavin Newsom. In today’s podcast, we’ll explain everything you need to know about how the situation got to this point, and the latest on the situation in LA.

Hosts: Zara Seidler and Emma Gillespie
Producer: Elliot Lawry

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Already and this is the Daily This is the Dahlias.
Oh now it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good morning and welcome to the Daily Os. It's Thursday,
the twelfth of June. I'm Zara Seidler, I'm Emma Gillespie.
Protests on the streets of La have entered another day
after the city's mayor announced a curfew and state of
emergency yesterday. These protests began last Friday after the country's
immigration enforcement body conducted a series of widespread raids. Since then,

(00:37):
protesters have been gathering across the city to call for
an end to the raids. In response to these protests,
US President Donald Trump has deployed the National Guard and Marines,
a decision that has been hotly contested by the state's governor.
In today's podcast, we'll explain everything you need to know
about how the situation got to this point and the
latest for those in La.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Zara. So many of us had a long weekend. This
weekend just passed and might have missed the origins of
this story. It felt like, all of a sudden, there
were these really intense headlines coming out of La violent scenes,
reports of injuries. An Australian journalist making headlines caught in
the cross fire or directly fired up by police on

(01:23):
the ground. It feels like things are escalating with every
passing day. But for people who might just be tuning in,
where does it all begin?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, it's a really good point, and because if you've
seen the escalation and you don't know the source, it
can be a bit confusing. So the story begins on
Friday last week when Immigration and Customs Enforcement they're called ICE,
and I'll just call them that for ease for the
rest of the podcast, they conducted a series of widespread
raids on businesses across the city of Los Angeles. ICE

(01:54):
is the federal agency responsible for enforcing immigration laws and
deporting people who were in the USA without legal permission,
and I'm sure a lot of our listeners are familiar
with them now. ICE has been carrying out raids over
the past few months as part of President Donald Trump's
broader immigration crackdown. So this idea of raids is not
a new thing. It's certainly been quite a feature of

(02:16):
this term of the Trump presidency. Just last month, the
Trump administration set a target to arrest three thousand people
a day over alleged immigration violations. It's a very very
big number.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
That's enormous, it is.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
And so I say that just to set the scene
that while these raids are not unfamiliar to those watching
the Trump presidency, the ones that occurred in LA on
Friday were seen, at least by those protesters who gathered afterwards,
to be substantially wider in scope than the previous ice operations. So,
for example, the Associated Press reported the people were arrested

(02:53):
in a home depot parking lot, so a chainsaw outside
a chain saw as part of these raids. And LA's
mayor Karen Bass, who you're going to hear quite a
lot about in this podcast, said in an interview, how
did we get from gang members to home depot? She's
referring there to the fact that originally these raids were
targeting or at least as the Trump administration said, they

(03:14):
were targeting gang members, but it has become far more
widespread than that. According to officials, more than one hundred
people were arrested on Friday alone in these immigration raids.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Okay, so the kind of protest response that we've seen
is really in response to the scope of these raids,
rather than them existing in the first place. We've known
for some time that Donald Trump is hardline on his
immigration stance. He campaigned on it in the lead up
to the November election. So this policy isn't necessarily surprising,
but the number of raids that have been carried out

(03:48):
is what is shocking people.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I think that it's all of those things taken together.
I think you're right that people have seen this happen before,
but as we said, the nature of these feel different,
and certainly the response that we've seen now happen in
LA is far more significant than we've seen elsewhere in
the country.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
So these raids started on Friday in LA Then the
protesters start to gather in parts of the city.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
What happens from there.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
It's a pretty quick turnaround between people first finding out
about those raids and protesters starting to gather. And the
original site of the protest is the Metropolitan Detention Center
in LA That's where some of the people who have
been detained by ICE agents during those raids are being held.
And so protesters start to arrive outside that center and

(04:39):
begin to protest against ICE. Over the course of the weekend,
the protests begin to grow in numbers. We've seen lots
of pictures of demonstrators holding signs that read things like
ice out of LA and education not deportation. I say
that just to give you some sense of what it
is these people are actually asking for and protesting against.

(05:02):
One protester told local news over the weekend that the
whole thing about going after immigrants and people who are undocumented,
the most vulnerable of our populations, that is so wrong.
So that is kind of the flavor I guess of
where these protesters.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Are community response exactly.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
And so these protests are originally described by police to
be largely peaceful when they begin on Friday and then
again into Saturday. However, by Sunday, police and protesters have
begun clashing. The LA Police Department, the LAPD, said it
made twenty eight arrests on Sunday after it says that
protests escalated. It said that it responded to acts of violence,

(05:41):
vandalism and looting, and then the LAPD's chief, Jim McDonald's
claimed in a press conference that the unrest had become
increasingly worse and more violent. And that's certainly I think
where we start to see some of those images and
videos coming out.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Of La Okay.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
So what was or has been the response to this escalation.
Police have described peaceful action that has turned violent. We've
seen more and more coverage. It appears the protests have
grown in size. What happens next?

Speaker 2 (06:11):
So the next big part of this story, And it's
kind of confusing because there are two big stories happening
at once. What's happening on the ground in La and
then there's also this political story that is unforl Rin
at the same time. But basically the next part of
this story comes when US President Donald Trump signs an
executive order deploying two thousand National Guard members to La Zara.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Forgive my potential ignorance here. When we say national Guard,
they sound very.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Important, unofficial. What is the National Guard?

Speaker 2 (06:41):
The National Guard is a reserve military force, so it's
typically made up of part time soldiers who can hold
civilian jobs and often do hold civilian jobs, but then
they're called to active duty in specific circumstance. Did not
know that, yes, So in a statement, Trump said to
the extent that protests or acts of isolence directly inhibit
the execution of the laws. They constitute a form of

(07:04):
rebellion against the authority of the government of the United States.
And so that is the justification that Donald Trump has
provided in a statement when he signed that executive order
calling for the National Guard to be deployed, he was
basically calling these protests a rebellion against the United States government.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
And I guess that kind of answers the question that
I had in my mind about how did we go
from local police the LAPD managing this response at a
state level, there is a management and then that escalating
to a federal response.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Well, your question, I think is the question that Californian
Governor Gavin Newsom also has, because this is where there
has been a lot of political tension. So, just to
set the scene, Gavin Newsom is a Democrat, He's the
governor of California. He's largely seen as a potential next
presidential candidate without aside for the second discussion, exactly, so

(07:58):
he has typically been quite an outspoken opponent of Donald Trump.
And so where this has come to a head is
that typically state governors control their state's National Guard and
they use them for emergencies like national disaster. Okay, so
the president can activate them, but typically and historically this

(08:19):
occurs with the governor's consent, right, and so Trump is
actually the first president since nineteen sixty five to deploy
the National Guard without a governor's request.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, So this is where the kind of political fallouts
stems from when it comes to why Donald Trump has
done this without asking for or discussing with the governor
of the state. White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt said,
in the wake of this violence, California's feckless Democrat leaders
have completely abdicated their responsibility to protect their citizens.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
We'll be back with more of today's deep dive right
after this. So a lot going on there.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
As you've described, the National Guard kind of historically has
been used in a political senses to recover or respond
to emergency threats, and that could be natural disasters, and
typically we see presidents working with state governors to coordinate
that response. But now we've had these really strong words

(09:23):
from the White House condemning California's handling of the situation.
The situation and that's led us to this political division
as well as this on the ground action. I can't
imagine Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, is particularly pleased
with the sentiment coming out of the White House.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
We hear from him, so he has actually made moves
to sue Donald Trump on the deployment of troops. He
called Trump's move an unmistakable step towards authoritarianism, and he
said that he had filed this lawsuit to end the
illegal and unnecessary takeover of the National Guard, which has
needlessly escalated chaos and violence in the LA region. So

(10:04):
basically he's saying, I'm filing this lawsuit for two reasons. One,
Donald Trump deployed the National Guard without the consent or
the input of me, that the Californian governor, not me Zarasidler.
And second that the decision by Donald Trump, he claims
was unwarranted. That basically, sending in the National Guard, all
three thousand of them, is escalating a situation that could

(10:28):
have been handled by local authorities.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
What's the goal of launching a proceeding like that? If
Goavin Newsom successfully sues Trump, is it basically asking for
an admission of wrongdoing.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Well, he's been trying to stop it from continuing, so
he's tried to put a pause on allowing them in.
But this all takes time, as we know.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
So how has Donald Trump then responded?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well, Trump's taken to social media to actually voice support
for arresting Newsom. Over the weekend, Newsome again the Californian governor.
He dared Tom Homan, who is the director of ICE,
to arrest him, and then in response, Donald Trump saw
those suits and said I would do it if I

(11:13):
were Tom. So he's saying if he were in charge,
he would arrest the governor. Fair to say that. Newsom
didn't take to that one too well. He said on
social media, the President of the United States just called
for the arrest of a sitting governor. This is a
day I hoped I would never see in America. I
don't care if you're a Democrat or a Republican. This
is a line we cannot cross as a nation.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
It's been so interesting, obviously, you know, from our perspective
as outsiders here in Australia seeing this unfold, because I
think part of Donald Trump's legacy has been his policy
around state versus federal leadership, and I think he's been
very clear on state responsibilities for certain aspects of health

(11:57):
care and education. But now this is playing out in
a very different way.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
So yeah, well, I mean, just to bring it home
for an Australian audience. This is kind of the equivalent
of Anthony Aberezi, a labor prime minister, being sued by
a liberal premier in say David Chris a fully the
Queensland premier yep, and in turn calling for his arrest.
That is the I guess equivalent as much as we
can do.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
And Aguin you put it like that, it sounds pretty bizarre.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
It is. It's certainly a really significant moment. But what's
more than that, it's that this is all occurring as
there is this state of emergency unfolding in La.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, well, I wanted to ask you what is happening
on the ground in La at the time of recording.
What do we know about the situation right now?

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Well, I think the first thing to say is that
it's not de escalating by any stretch of the imagination.
That protesters are still taking to the streets, They are
still calling on ice to stop their raids. We know,
of course that the National Guard has since arrived after
being summoned by President Trump, as have Marines who were
also ordered into the city. Now the source of the

(13:01):
protests kind of finishing as we ended this podcast. So
those immigration raids they've actually also continued throughout this period,
so it hasn't been like Friday was the end point
and since then there have been none. They've continued throughout
this period. CBS News, which is an American outlet, reports
that they've seen figures that say that ICE recorded more

(13:22):
than twelve hundred arrests across the US over the weekend.
In terms of on the ground in LA, yesterday, LA's
mayor announced a curfew and she declared a national state
of emergency. She said that was to stop the vandalism
and to stop the looting. So that will be in place,
that curfew from eight pm until six am in part

(13:43):
of downtown LA. And we'll have to wait and see
if that has any effect on the protests. But it
does feel like this is only growing. The anger and
the hostility, certainly on both sides, appears to be growing.
And I think i'll just end off with what Donald
Trump has said most recently. He said that La was
being invaded and conquered by a foreign army. He said

(14:06):
that yesterday.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Wow, very very strong language there. But I think it's
also interesting to touch on, you know, downtown LA. We're
talking about a densely populated area of a major global city.
And this is a story that has garnered international attention
for many reasons, but of course for us here in
Australia it's dominated headlines as well because we've seen these

(14:28):
journalists on the ground in la reporting for Australian broadcasters.
So Lauren Tamasi from Channel nine, Lauren Day, a correspondent
for the ABC. Both of those journalists have reported being
targeted injured by police. We saw the rubber bullet that
was fired at the Channel nine reporter. The ABC journal
was caught up in tear gas that police dispersed across

(14:51):
a crowd. An ABC cameraman was shot in the chest
with a rubber bullet and that's just what we've heard
from the Aussies on the ground. There are reporters out
of the UK and the who have cited similar run
ins with police, and.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Just on that, we do know the LAPD is currently
investigating how that Channel nine journalist was shot at, yeah,
because the vision does show that it was an officer
who did point the gun at her. So an investigation
is underway into what happened there.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Exactly, and that incident has been criticized and condemned by
the Prime.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Minister Foreign Minister Pennywong.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
But clearly this is just another element of a very
escalating and evolving story. But in terms of global interest,
in terms of national interest here in Australia, you know
it's not going away. I'm sure there'll be more to
talk about in the days to come, and as always
he'll keep you updated. Thank you so much for listening
to today's episode. We will be back a little later

(15:46):
on in the day with the evening news headlines, but
until then, have a fantastic day.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
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bunjelung Caalcutin woman from Gadigal Country.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
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