November 29, 2025 • 13 mins
We are on the brink of summer – quite literally, it starts tomorrow – and so we are here to discuss all things sun safety. A couple of weeks ago, we asked the audience over on our Instagram: What do you want to know about the effect of the sun on your skin? We were inundated. Billi spoke to dermatologist Dr Ritu Gupta to answer all those questions, and today we're here to share all of her wisdom!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This episode is brought to you by Ends the Trend.
A suntan is your skin's damage response, but protecting yourself
is simple skin cancer. Let's end the trend already and.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
This is the Daily This is the Daily OS.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Oh, now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome to
the Daily OS. It's Sunday, the thirtieth of November. I'm
Billy fitz Simon's.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I'm Sam Kazlowski.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
We are on the brink of summer quite literally, it
starts tomorrow go and so we are here to discuss
all things sun safety. A couple of weeks ago, we
asked the audience over on our Instagram, what do you
want to know about the effect of the sun on
your skin? We were inundated with questions and I spoke
(00:50):
to dermatologist doctor Rita Gupta to answer all of those questions,
and today we are here to help share all of
her wisdom. Just a quick note before we get get started.
This podcast is sponsored by Cancer Council and Australian Governments
End the Trend, but they've not provided any input on
the content here.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
So Billy, how I thought we would do this is
I'm going to read out the questions that I thought
were really interesting from the audience, and then you can
let us know the answer based on your chat with
the expert, doctor Reto Gupta.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Perfect.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So the first question, let's start right at kind of
the big picture. Can you get skin damage without sunburn? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I actually think this is probably the biggest thing that
I learned in my chat with doctor Retoo. So it's
great to start with this because I think it really
sets up the entire episode. The answer is that literally,
any sun tan is harmful, and so you don't need
to get to the point of a burn for there
to be skin damage. I don't know if you've ever
been around someone who said I don't burn, I just can.
(01:57):
I always hear that kind of as a justification for
you know, being out in the sun. But what doctor
Riedo really emphasized to me is that any tan is
your skin in trauma basically, and once it gets to
the sunburned stage, there's obviously just a lot more damage,
but that shouldn't be misunderstood as that being the only
(02:19):
stage where there is damage, right, Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
So it's kind of almost a couple of steps where
the severity you can increase, but it can start pretty
early in that sun exposure exactly. One theme that came
through quite strongly in the questions were about freckles, and
the questions were kind of are freckles harmful? But also
are they avoidable?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
So what I learned from speaking to doctor Riedo is
that freckles are a sign of sun exposure, but they
themselves are not harmful. Right, So, although they do tell
a story of too much sun. But it's also worth
noting that some people are predisposed to getting more freckles
than others. Are you someone whore, Sam, I'm not really
a fra I'm not either, but I know a lot
(03:03):
of people are. Like I said, some people are predisposed
to it more than others. And what's important to know
is that freckles themselves don't turn into skin cancer. However,
doctor Rido explained that brown splodges can turn into skin
cancer and for someone with an untrained eye like you
or me, no offense to either of us, it can
(03:26):
be hard to tell the difference between the two. Here's
a little bit of my chat with doctor Riedo about this.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
So basically, what you're looking for really is change, you know,
something new. I always said to persions, something new, something changing,
something not healing. Something that catches your eye or your
partner's eye or your friend's eye should be looked at.
It also depends what age you are, because at certain
ages you're still developing things like new moles and things.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So that's a pretty clear justification of you know, if
you notice brown spots to go and get a check
pretty quickly. There were a lot of questions about suntanning
and whether there was a healthy limit to suntanning, which
I thought was really interesting. Did you kind of press
for an answer on that one.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yes, And this is a pretty easy answer, Sam. Do
you remember the ad from Cancer Council back in twenty
ten there's nothing healthy about a tan.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
It was kind of the Australian Advertising Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, I feel like it's literally burned in my brain.
That's saying they're.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Interesting use of the word band.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
But yeah, I'm glad you picked off on that. And
so the answer to this question is pretty simple. No,
suntan is healthy, just like that ad told us all
those years ago. Here is a bit more of what
doctor Riedo said on.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
That suntan is always bad. We need to let go
of this whole desire to be the bronzed Aussie because
all suntan is a sign of skin damage from the sun.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So let's turn now to prevention and the ways that
people can protect themselves from the risks that we've spoken about,
And I want to talk about sunscreen. A lot of
questions about sunscreen. It's been i would say, objectively, a
bad year for sunscreen in the media. Yes, there's been,
you know, these independent investigations into some sunscreens not delivering
the protections they claim.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
To offer, and those ones have been taken off the shelves.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, and we've done a lot of reporting on that.
How effective is sunscreen good sunscreen in actually preventing cancer.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I feel like I should preface this by saying, not
all sunscreen, it's not. What has happened this year is
not indicative of the entire sunscreen industry. Absolutely, there has
just been a portion of sunscreens with a specific formula
that it has turned out isn't as effective. But the
large majority of sunscreen is very effective.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I feel like that's a really important point to emphasize.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yes, and as we I'm sure and mostly across we've
grown up with the importance of sunscreen all of our lives.
It is very effective, but what doctor Rido really emphasized
in my chat with her is that it's only part
of the prevention story and what you should be doing
to prevent skin cancer, premature aging, all of that, and
so it needs to be complimented by other sun safe
(06:09):
measures in order to be the most effective. One way
to look at it is that sunscreen is our last
line of defense when you can't cover up with clothes
when we are in the sun. Now, this is where
the five s's come into play. I'm sure most of
us are familiar with slip slop slap.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Can you sing the song no slip slop slap. I
don't think that's quite let's play it Lola now, quick question, Sam,
do you know what the slap is in reference.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
To gosh like slapping it on your body?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Slapping what on your body?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Sunscreen? No slap?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
What slip?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Slip? Getting slippery? I assumed it was all suns related.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
No, it's very specific. So slip is slipping on a
T shirt or something that's going to cover your Did
you not know this?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
This is mind blowing? What do you mean? I thought
there was just different ways of applying sunscreen. No, you
slap some, you slap some.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
No, okay, So slip is putting on protective clothing, slop
is slopping on some sunscreen, and slap is putting on
a broad brimmed hat.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Can you explain that connection? That makes no sense to me?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
That bit, How does that make no sense to you?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You slap on a hat, slap.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
On a hat, and that's what we are about to
do right now for the rest of this podcast.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I would dare I would go as far as saying
that there's one of the most little known, well known
parts of being an Australian, this slip, slop, slap and
not knowing that slap meant putting on the hat.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I know that this is an audio form, although we
do also do video. But I've just brought in some
hats for Sam and nice of the I know that
you love our bucket hat, so I thought.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Do they make this for people with slightly larger heads?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Okay, we look absolutely ridiculous, but I will be insisting
that we be wearing this for the rest of the podcast.
But yeah, so you didn't know that, No, Well, you
learn something new every day. I hope that this is.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You slap on other hats or is it just.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Broad brimmed, because that is going to be what is
going to protect your face the most from the sun.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Okay, understood?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Okay? And then in two thousand and seven, did you
know that seek and slide were.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Added, right, so sek would be shade.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yes and slide.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's a no brainer.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
That's a no brainer.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Slide, no slide, slide into the shade in the hoddest
time of the slide on, slide on into a skin
check clinic.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Great, guess maybe they should add that one. No slide
is sliding on sunglasses are nice? Nice, And so you
need all five of those slip, slop, slap, seek, slide
to effectively prevent skin cancer. Can you say them with me? Ready? Slip, slop, slap, seek,
slide perfect, We'll never forget it. Now. Here is a
(09:21):
little bit more from doctor Redo on.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
That if you're doing all of those things, is very
effective in preventing skin cancer. Sunscreen by itself, as I said,
if if you're using an SPF fifty, it blocks out
ninety eight percent of the UV race. If you're using
a SPF thirty, it's still about I think it's ninety
five point seven percent, so it's only a few percent less,
(09:43):
even though the number is much less. But you need
to reapply. And the thing about sunscreen is all the sunscreens,
even the ones that say their last four hours, most
of the protection is gone after two hours.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Now that my mind is, you know, blown with these
new words, these new English words, which I've been saying
for decades.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Say they're not new.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
No, well, they're very new in the way that I'm
understanding them.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
The meaning is new for Sam's brain.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Let's keep going. Another common question was about botox and
whether botox can fix sun damage, and I think that
relates a lot to kind of the aging discussions.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Right, this is interesting, So essentially botox isn't helping sun
damage at all in terms of the damage the sun
has caused your cells, any spots it has caused, and
it does nothing in preventing skin cancer, although I'm sure
that we all pretty much presumed that obviously. One thing
the sun does do, though, is it causes wrinkles, and
(10:42):
botox does deal with that, but it doesn't do anything else,
and it doesn't help wrinkles one hundred percent either.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Right, So it's purely cosmetic Another way that people kind
of mitigate, you know, cosmetically in this area.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Is I'm still just laughing at the fact that we're
still wearing the hats during this pond.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Recus, I'm a big I'm a big slapper. I'm a
big hat slapper. Let's talk about fake tan. I've actually
noticed there's less people wearing fake tan that perhaps I
thought I kind of remember there would have been five
years ago. I feel like it's gotten slightly less common.
One question we had was can fake tan protect your
(11:25):
skin from sun damage?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
It can't. It does absolutely nothing in terms of protecting
your skin from the sun or preventing skin cancer or
anything like that. I'll let doctor Rido explain more of this.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
It doesn't have any blocking effect on UV, and in fact,
it could cause the opposite effect because you might think, oh,
I've got a tan and therefore I'm not going to
burn as easily. But it's a fake tan, so it
doesn't protect.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Well, those are all the questions. Billy and I think
that's a really nice way to start summer officially tomorrow.
I think it's one of the most special things and
the biggest risks to living in Australia. And this discussion
comes around kind of each year, but each year I
feel like our understanding of how we talk about it
and normalizing these conversations increases. And that's only a good thing.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
One hundred percent. And now this year, you know, slip
slot slat seek slide. Incredibly, you're going to be more
unsafe than.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Ever before and I actually understand what those words. Thank
you so much for joining us, Billy, and thank you
to doctor Rito as well for offering her expertise in
guiding us through this discussion. Absolutely, and that's all we've
got time for on this special edition of The Daily
Odds this Sunday. We're going to be back in your
is tomorrow morning with the regular news. Enjoy the first
(12:45):
day of summer coming up, Protect yourself and we will
chat to you later.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda
bunjelung Caalcultin woman from Gadigal country. The Daily acknowledges that
this podcast is recorded on the lands of the Gadigal
people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strate
island and nations. We pay our respects to the first
peoples of these countries both past and present.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Summer's heating up, so here is your reminder. Slip on
something that covers your skin. Slop on SPF fifty, slap
on a white brained hat, seek some shade, and slide
on your sunnies. Whenever the UV hits three or above.
These more habits make a real difference, and it's never
too late to start. Oh and remind your mates as well.
(13:36):
We are all in this together, skin cancer. Let's end
the trend.
This episode is brought to you by Ends the Trend.
A suntan is your skin's damage response, but protecting yourself
is simple skin cancer. Let's end the trend already and.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
This is the Daily This is the Daily OS.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Oh, now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome to
the Daily OS. It's Sunday, the thirtieth of November. I'm
Billy fitz Simon's.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I'm Sam Kazlowski.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
We are on the brink of summer quite literally, it
starts tomorrow go and so we are here to discuss
all things sun safety. A couple of weeks ago, we
asked the audience over on our Instagram, what do you
want to know about the effect of the sun on
your skin? We were inundated with questions and I spoke
(00:50):
to dermatologist doctor Rita Gupta to answer all of those questions,
and today we are here to help share all of
her wisdom. Just a quick note before we get get started.
This podcast is sponsored by Cancer Council and Australian Governments
End the Trend, but they've not provided any input on
the content here.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
So Billy, how I thought we would do this is
I'm going to read out the questions that I thought
were really interesting from the audience, and then you can
let us know the answer based on your chat with
the expert, doctor Reto Gupta.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Perfect.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So the first question, let's start right at kind of
the big picture. Can you get skin damage without sunburn? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I actually think this is probably the biggest thing that
I learned in my chat with doctor Retoo. So it's
great to start with this because I think it really
sets up the entire episode. The answer is that literally,
any sun tan is harmful, and so you don't need
to get to the point of a burn for there
to be skin damage. I don't know if you've ever
been around someone who said I don't burn, I just can.
(01:57):
I always hear that kind of as a justification for
you know, being out in the sun. But what doctor
Riedo really emphasized to me is that any tan is
your skin in trauma basically, and once it gets to
the sunburned stage, there's obviously just a lot more damage,
but that shouldn't be misunderstood as that being the only
(02:19):
stage where there is damage, right, Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
So it's kind of almost a couple of steps where
the severity you can increase, but it can start pretty
early in that sun exposure exactly. One theme that came
through quite strongly in the questions were about freckles, and
the questions were kind of are freckles harmful? But also
are they avoidable?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
So what I learned from speaking to doctor Riedo is
that freckles are a sign of sun exposure, but they
themselves are not harmful. Right, So, although they do tell
a story of too much sun. But it's also worth
noting that some people are predisposed to getting more freckles
than others. Are you someone whore, Sam, I'm not really
a fra I'm not either, but I know a lot
(03:03):
of people are. Like I said, some people are predisposed
to it more than others. And what's important to know
is that freckles themselves don't turn into skin cancer. However,
doctor Rido explained that brown splodges can turn into skin
cancer and for someone with an untrained eye like you
or me, no offense to either of us, it can
(03:26):
be hard to tell the difference between the two. Here's
a little bit of my chat with doctor Riedo about this.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
So basically, what you're looking for really is change, you know,
something new. I always said to persions, something new, something changing,
something not healing. Something that catches your eye or your
partner's eye or your friend's eye should be looked at.
It also depends what age you are, because at certain
ages you're still developing things like new moles and things.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So that's a pretty clear justification of you know, if
you notice brown spots to go and get a check
pretty quickly. There were a lot of questions about suntanning
and whether there was a healthy limit to suntanning, which
I thought was really interesting. Did you kind of press
for an answer on that one.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yes, And this is a pretty easy answer, Sam. Do
you remember the ad from Cancer Council back in twenty
ten there's nothing healthy about a tan.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
It was kind of the Australian Advertising Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, I feel like it's literally burned in my brain.
That's saying they're.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Interesting use of the word band.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
But yeah, I'm glad you picked off on that. And
so the answer to this question is pretty simple. No,
suntan is healthy, just like that ad told us all
those years ago. Here is a bit more of what
doctor Riedo said on.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
That suntan is always bad. We need to let go
of this whole desire to be the bronzed Aussie because
all suntan is a sign of skin damage from the sun.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So let's turn now to prevention and the ways that
people can protect themselves from the risks that we've spoken about,
And I want to talk about sunscreen. A lot of
questions about sunscreen. It's been i would say, objectively, a
bad year for sunscreen in the media. Yes, there's been,
you know, these independent investigations into some sunscreens not delivering
the protections they claim.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
To offer, and those ones have been taken off the shelves.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, and we've done a lot of reporting on that.
How effective is sunscreen good sunscreen in actually preventing cancer.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I feel like I should preface this by saying, not
all sunscreen, it's not. What has happened this year is
not indicative of the entire sunscreen industry. Absolutely, there has
just been a portion of sunscreens with a specific formula
that it has turned out isn't as effective. But the
large majority of sunscreen is very effective.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I feel like that's a really important point to emphasize.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yes, and as we I'm sure and mostly across we've
grown up with the importance of sunscreen all of our lives.
It is very effective, but what doctor Rido really emphasized
in my chat with her is that it's only part
of the prevention story and what you should be doing
to prevent skin cancer, premature aging, all of that, and
so it needs to be complimented by other sun safe
(06:09):
measures in order to be the most effective. One way
to look at it is that sunscreen is our last
line of defense when you can't cover up with clothes
when we are in the sun. Now, this is where
the five s's come into play. I'm sure most of
us are familiar with slip slop slap.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Can you sing the song no slip slop slap. I
don't think that's quite let's play it Lola now, quick question, Sam,
do you know what the slap is in reference.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
To gosh like slapping it on your body?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Slapping what on your body?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Sunscreen? No slap?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
What slip?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Slip? Getting slippery? I assumed it was all suns related.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
No, it's very specific. So slip is slipping on a
T shirt or something that's going to cover your Did
you not know this?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
This is mind blowing? What do you mean? I thought
there was just different ways of applying sunscreen. No, you
slap some, you slap some.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
No, okay, So slip is putting on protective clothing, slop
is slopping on some sunscreen, and slap is putting on
a broad brimmed hat.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Can you explain that connection? That makes no sense to me?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
That bit, How does that make no sense to you?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You slap on a hat, slap.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
On a hat, and that's what we are about to
do right now for the rest of this podcast.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I would dare I would go as far as saying
that there's one of the most little known, well known
parts of being an Australian, this slip, slop, slap and
not knowing that slap meant putting on the hat.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I know that this is an audio form, although we
do also do video. But I've just brought in some
hats for Sam and nice of the I know that
you love our bucket hat, so I thought.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Do they make this for people with slightly larger heads?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Okay, we look absolutely ridiculous, but I will be insisting
that we be wearing this for the rest of the podcast.
But yeah, so you didn't know that, No, Well, you
learn something new every day. I hope that this is.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You slap on other hats or is it just.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Broad brimmed, because that is going to be what is
going to protect your face the most from the sun.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Okay, understood?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Okay? And then in two thousand and seven, did you
know that seek and slide were.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Added, right, so sek would be shade.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yes and slide.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's a no brainer.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
That's a no brainer.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Slide, no slide, slide into the shade in the hoddest
time of the slide on, slide on into a skin
check clinic.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Great, guess maybe they should add that one. No slide
is sliding on sunglasses are nice? Nice, And so you
need all five of those slip, slop, slap, seek, slide
to effectively prevent skin cancer. Can you say them with me? Ready? Slip, slop, slap, seek,
slide perfect, We'll never forget it. Now. Here is a
(09:21):
little bit more from doctor Redo on.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
That if you're doing all of those things, is very
effective in preventing skin cancer. Sunscreen by itself, as I said,
if if you're using an SPF fifty, it blocks out
ninety eight percent of the UV race. If you're using
a SPF thirty, it's still about I think it's ninety
five point seven percent, so it's only a few percent less,
(09:43):
even though the number is much less. But you need
to reapply. And the thing about sunscreen is all the sunscreens,
even the ones that say their last four hours, most
of the protection is gone after two hours.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Now that my mind is, you know, blown with these
new words, these new English words, which I've been saying
for decades.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Say they're not new.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
No, well, they're very new in the way that I'm
understanding them.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
The meaning is new for Sam's brain.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Let's keep going. Another common question was about botox and
whether botox can fix sun damage, and I think that
relates a lot to kind of the aging discussions.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Right, this is interesting, So essentially botox isn't helping sun
damage at all in terms of the damage the sun
has caused your cells, any spots it has caused, and
it does nothing in preventing skin cancer, although I'm sure
that we all pretty much presumed that obviously. One thing
the sun does do, though, is it causes wrinkles, and
(10:42):
botox does deal with that, but it doesn't do anything else,
and it doesn't help wrinkles one hundred percent either.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Right, So it's purely cosmetic Another way that people kind
of mitigate, you know, cosmetically in this area.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Is I'm still just laughing at the fact that we're
still wearing the hats during this pond.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Recus, I'm a big I'm a big slapper. I'm a
big hat slapper. Let's talk about fake tan. I've actually
noticed there's less people wearing fake tan that perhaps I
thought I kind of remember there would have been five
years ago. I feel like it's gotten slightly less common.
One question we had was can fake tan protect your
(11:25):
skin from sun damage?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
It can't. It does absolutely nothing in terms of protecting
your skin from the sun or preventing skin cancer or
anything like that. I'll let doctor Rido explain more of this.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
It doesn't have any blocking effect on UV, and in fact,
it could cause the opposite effect because you might think, oh,
I've got a tan and therefore I'm not going to
burn as easily. But it's a fake tan, so it
doesn't protect.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Well, those are all the questions. Billy and I think
that's a really nice way to start summer officially tomorrow.
I think it's one of the most special things and
the biggest risks to living in Australia. And this discussion
comes around kind of each year, but each year I
feel like our understanding of how we talk about it
and normalizing these conversations increases. And that's only a good thing.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
One hundred percent. And now this year, you know, slip
slot slat seek slide. Incredibly, you're going to be more
unsafe than.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Ever before and I actually understand what those words. Thank
you so much for joining us, Billy, and thank you
to doctor Rito as well for offering her expertise in
guiding us through this discussion. Absolutely, and that's all we've
got time for on this special edition of The Daily
Odds this Sunday. We're going to be back in your
is tomorrow morning with the regular news. Enjoy the first
(12:45):
day of summer coming up, Protect yourself and we will
chat to you later.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda
bunjelung Caalcultin woman from Gadigal country. The Daily acknowledges that
this podcast is recorded on the lands of the Gadigal
people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strate
island and nations. We pay our respects to the first
peoples of these countries both past and present.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Summer's heating up, so here is your reminder. Slip on
something that covers your skin. Slop on SPF fifty, slap
on a white brained hat, seek some shade, and slide
on your sunnies. Whenever the UV hits three or above.
These more habits make a real difference, and it's never
too late to start. Oh and remind your mates as well.
(13:36):
We are all in this together, skin cancer. Let's end
the trend.
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