Sean Barnard Interview -- 12/8/23

Sean Barnard joins the show to talk #Eagles, #NFL, LIV Golf making headlines again, and more.

Episode Transcript

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All right, we'll back here.We are the big game on football slash
everything with Friday. It's Cowboy weekand the Eagles have to stop Dak Prepscott
from throwing football or throwing touchdown bads. He got six straight games with two
touchdown passes. Doesn't get any easierfor me as far as the way to

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find a victory in Dallas, right, this team has really turned the corner
six and one since they lost tothe forty nine ers when they got smashed,
and what they do well. TheEagles have been struggling, right,
Let's just be honest about it.It's a fifty two total on Draftings Sportsbook,
still hanging tight at three and ahalf. As far as the Eagles
are dogs on the road again.This game going off at four o'clock on

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Sunday or eight twenty five on Sunday. All eyes will be on this game.
Shot, I didn't even get yourthoughts on this one. Shambinard joined
me. Here is we're gonna begoing full hour for you coming up next
here all things picks and roll NBAin season tournament. But Shombinar, I
want to squeeze in some other conversations, some talking points that are happening around
the sportswoman. Of course, alleyes on this game here three and a

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half fifty two. Where are youat in this game on Sunday Night?
Yeah? I like the over.I think it's gonna be a high scoring
matchup. I lean towards the Eaglesfinding a bounced back spot that. I
do think that from the matchup standpoint, the Cowboys got to be feeling pretty
good moving in this one. TheEagles secondary is a major concern. The
linebacking corps I do have some issueswith. I do think Dak Prescott's gonna

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pick them apart from a passing standpoint, but there's something about this Eagles team
that just finds a way to getthemselves off the mat. And I still
lean towards them finding a way toget the job done here that even with
the them not matching up particularly wellwith the strong passing offense of the Cowboys
and this week passing defense of theEagles, I do think Jalen Hurdists is
just gonna find a way. SoI was a little surprised at the three

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and a half. I like themto cover that for sure, and I
do think they're a live dog It'salso tough because we know that generally these
two teams split during the course ofthe season for a win and a win,
and now this will be a veryimpressive victory for the Eagles, but
they got to have eyes on theplayoff seating at this point. This is
a big one when it comes tothe seating for the playoffs and then what
is that stake there? So Ilike them to answer. I like them
to respond and kind of pick themselvesup after what was a absolute beat down

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last week. Dak's throwing the footballwell, and that's what has to scare
everybody again, NFL best twenty touchdownspassing. That's eight more than anybody else.
And that's a surprise for me.I will not dog Dak. I
used to dog him two to threeyears ago and he proved me wrong.
And ever since then, you justknow the potential that he has and he's

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reaching that potential this year. Andit's funny because the talking point in the
off season was Mike McCarthy's gonna wantto run the football more. Well,
they don't run the football, andit's all about Dak and he's got time.
Offensive line is given him some time. The one thing that I think
they're a little suspect is the defensiveside of the ball. I know you
got Michael Parsons, but other thanthat, they've had a lot of really
big injuries to their side. Sothat's where I'm with you. I think

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this is gonna be another high scoringgame. Again. The Eagles don't play
a lick of defense. At times, it feels like, so why not
right here on Sunday Night football.Yeah, I mean the six consecutive touchdowns
by the forty nine ers last weekwas enough to scare anybody. That looked
so easy, some of these mistacklesand just going down the field, So
that was an absolute shot those playThose should be highlighted in film and shown
two guys that this can never happenagain. We'll see how much Shaquille Leonard

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plays and what they want to mixin as far as the rotation from the
linebacking standpoint, as much as Idon't believe Leonard has a ton left in
the tank, can't be worse thanwhat we saw last week from a tackling
standpoint, So I will take that, and yeah, we'll see. I
do think it's gonna be a highscoring matchup despite some of the buzz from
some national pundits that Jalen Hurts willcontinue to be under center for the Eagles.

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So glad to see a little bitof a bounce back spot for him.
I do think he wakes up.I do you think that he's gonna
get after a little more mobile inthis one? The forty nine ers.
All the quotes flying around about themhaving blueprint to stop them, it's a
lot easier said than done when you'retalking about keeping him in the pocket and
things like that. So I likeHart to kind of use his legs a
little more than he has in recentweeks. I don't think he's as unhealthy
it's being made out to be.I think that Bye week treated him tremendously

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and that he is on the men. So I think we're gonna start to
see the real version of Jalen Hartzagain this week. This is a disappointing
last week, but it's one yougotta wash away, flush down, and
move on from. And I thinkthat will be the case. Yeah,
Ferguson's got to be on the list. Of course, ceedee lamb. Not
a lot of value there were hisnumbers. Ferguson's kind of creeping up in
that world as well. Again,I just think the recipe for success as
far as the Eagles taking on theEagles, you gotta target that lineback and

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corps. We saw it. Iknow nobody has Christian McCaffrey except the forty
nine ers, but Pollard he doescatch the rock out of the backfield.
Last week against Seattle he had twentycarries for sixty eight also had four targets
coming out of backfield, three catchersfor fifteen yards, broke one for twelve.
So if I'm looking at anything rightnow on DK Pollard, maybe alternate

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yards to get that involved, getthat pot and going as far as the
same game Parlay is concerned, buthe's twenty two and a half. As
far as receiving yards, receptions arewell with in play, So that's number
one where I would look Again,I think there's a value there on that
one. Also, as I saidat Ferguson, with the tight end position.
Again, the Eagles are just strugglingwith linebackers. So Ferguson touchdown.

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All that and more from Dallas's perspective, From the Eagles perspective, is there
anything for you, Swift? Isthis an aj Brown do you need to
see if whether or not Dallas Goddard'sback. Where do you stand on the
offense, So you said, Jaleand hurt to kind of like where you're
at with that as well. Yeah, I do think ify're going to air
the ball out a little bit.I do kind of like I get,

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we don't know the certainty of howmuch whole player, what the level of
healthy is. But the Dallas gota touchdown is intriguing to me. You
can get that at plus two tofifty five for any time on DraftKings they
need him as red zone threat thatthey're kind of missing that. I thought
his absence has been felt. AjBrown. You're looking at the numbers,
He's a plus one twenty five,deanres Swift plus one fifty five, DeVante

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Smith the plus one eighties. SoI think there's some nice value at plus
two to fifty five for Dallas Goddardthere. I also would just as the
guy standing outside the Eagles practice facilitywith they run the ball sign, they
got to get back to that that. They got to pound the rock a
little bit. It's been too predictable. Brian Johnson, I know, has
heard plenty of criticism This is nothingnew for me saying this, But Deandres
Swift at forty nine and a halfyards I like that number a lot too

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that it feels like the Eagles haveto reach that number to be hitting their
peak as a team. I wouldlike to make that a conscious effort early
to pound the rock open things up, and when you can have success through
the ground, it starts to openeverything up, and that's when the Eagles
start to look dangerous. So Ilike that four or forty nine and a
half for Deandres Swift, and Ido like that Dallas got a touchdown number.

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Excellent. All Right. One othergame I want to talk to you
from the NFL card coming up,and that's a big one that's taking place
in Kansas City taking on the BuffaloBills point and a half for the Chiefs
forty nine. I see a lotof people talking about Josh Allen and the
Bills going out to Arrowhead and comingaway with the victory. Man's that's definitely
that's new this year because anytime thatyou get mahomes under three, especially at

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home, you gotta take them.Where are you at in this one,
Sean, any play for you inthis game? Four? Twenty five on
Someday, probably one. From abetting perspective, I'm completely staying away from.
It's absolutely a back against the wallgame for the Bills. We know
they have not put themselves in agood spot from the playoffs standing. They
need to get this win for sure, so I think that's where a lot
of the mindset of them getting thevictory is coming from. But the bottom

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line is the game still played onthe field, regardless of how much they
want it. They have to proveto be the better team and I haven't
seen enough consistency from Buffalo for meto be confident in that yet. Josh
Allen just got to cut down onthe turnover, has got to be smarter
with the ball. I do thinkthat he's regressed in that area. We
knew him as a gunslinger from whenhe was in college and that his first
year or two in the NFL wasnot pretty from a turnover standpoint. We're

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seeing those demons show face again.I think if you can clean those up,
they're a completely different team. Ido think the Bills are the more
complete roster than this Chiefs team,but Patrick mahomes the great equalizer there,
and the difference makers so away.If I want to bet anything, probably
the over forty nine that I thinkthat there's gonna be some scoring on both
sides, although the Chiefs defense isthe real deal as well. But yeah,

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it's gonna be a fun one.It gonna be one that means a
lot in the playoff seeding and playoffrace as a whole. But probably you
want to stay away from a betterperspective in my mind. All right,
college football shoven, are you doArmy Navy? What is your thoughts on
that game? Yeah? My immediateto also take the under and watch something
else is kind of my outlook gamespecifically, won't catch me glued to the

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TV too much for that one.Probably see an over under of like eight
and a half passing attempts in thatmatchup. So yeah, it's ugly football.
It is nice at the same time, I like all the I guess
like the extras and things going onaround it from the Army and Navy standpoint,
cool stuff through the military there,but yeah, from the actual football
standpoint, not one that I'm gonnahave circled on my calendar exactly. I

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love Army. I think Armies toplay here, and they're three point favorites.
I know, I know, it'sit's such a tough game the wager.
And yeah, besides the total,because it seems like the under,
and everybody was on the under lastyear, and of course it goes to
double ot so it went way overto total. So I'm not hesitant to
say to take the under here,but you know, if you're looking for
something else, I actually think Armywin this game. I don't think Navy

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gets too many points on the board. So give me Army their minus three,
and you know, I think it'sgonna be a sweat. I think
you're gonna be looking at like atwenty to twenty seven, twenty six final
score, maybe at twenty to ninefinal score, which would go over to
total. So good luck to everybody, but I'm gonna take Army on this

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one, all right. A coupleother things that are happening in the sports
world Show Hao Tani now, Shamanarand I got together a little earlier today
record this, so hopefully show Heydid not sign just yet, but it
seems like Toronto might be the move. Here your thoughts on show Hayo,
Tony's signing with the Toronto Blue Jaysnot staying in Anaheim, not going to
either the New York teams, notgoing to Boston, not going to either

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of the Chicago teams. Anything therefor you, and like, why not'd
be to see a show Heyo Taniup there. I do agree with a
lot of the sentiment going around.I mean, for starters, like it's
obviously show Hay's choice and he canhandle this however he wants. But I
do think it's a missed opportunity frombaseball's perspective that this isn't kind of a
big deal. I don't need aLebron James decision level of, you know,

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off court antics regarding it. ButI still think it would be cool
if it is showcase and broadcast thata guy that could potentially go down as
one of the best baseball players everto make a clear like spectacle of him
choosing where he wants to play.It's no surprise that he's leaving Anaheim.
It makes sense. I feel thatwith Mike Trout with show Hey, the
fact that they still could not producewinning and have it forever is really disappointing.

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He seems to I don't even knowif a bigger markets what he wants
but it just feels like some ateam that is all in on baseball in
a way that the Angels and Angelsfans just don't seem to be. So
I think it'd be kind of coolif he went up to Toronto. Definitely
a surprise for me that that wasn'tanything that I had kind of in the
back of my brain. It feltlike either a New York team or Atlanta
that that was my greatest fear isthat he ended up with the Braves.

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But I do wish that this wasa bigger spectacle. I'm kind of written
for Toronto or if you know,the Phillies could be a dark horse team,
which I would be surprised for atthis point, but definitely something that
if that's remotely in the possibility,I would be in favor of. Agreed.
I just want to say that,yes, I'm with you. I
didn't have an issue with him.You know, he's doing it his way.

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He's a Japanese baseball player. They'rekind of the silent right, That's
how they've been in history. Theydon't you know, they don't you know,
celebrate themselves or anything along those lines. Sure, we would love to
see it. I just never expectedit. That's one I don't buy into
the oh, if you break this, if you talk about this, I'm
not signing here to stop it.Stop it, dude. Money talks.

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Of course, you know, ifhe shows up and all of a sudden,
you're leaking the full conversation, oryou videotaped the meeting and you released
it to the media, that mighthave an impact. But for Dave Roberts
to say, yeah, we metand people were like, oh, I
hope I didn't have an issue,stop it. It did not. He's
going to go to the best spotfor him, which I do believe it's
either Toronto or la I always thoughtSeattle was on the table, not the

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case. It seems like that eventhough they did free up money, they
were trying to make some moost behindthe scenes. It doesn't seem like Seattle
is the spot, even though hedoes live there too. I just found
out earlier this week that he livesin Seattle in the offseason. But who
knows. I think Toronto might bethe spot, and I think it's pretty
cool, Like you said, cameout of nowhere. I'm a Blue Jay
backer. It's a tough division,so I'd love to see him get in

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there in that Al East and it'sall important out of the National League,
which is great. So hopefully thatis the case. Wherever he goes,
he's gonna get paid. I loveall the leaks. Yeah, Jim Bowden
talking about a private flight from Anaheimto Toronto. You had some other guy
who is in Toronto said that aJapanese picture for Toronto booked a restaurant for

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sushi. And then somebody followed upby saying you just ruined his wife's surprise
party. There was some really goodstuff on a timeline. As always with
all this nonsense, I'm with you. I never expected show Hate to do
anything, but it would have beencool to say, hey, he narrowed
it down to these three spots,some videotape of him walking in, maybe
some scoreboards, maybe some microphones onhim walking out, just a little bit

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more of a production, far farfar away from the decision. Let's put
it that way. Even though Ididn't have an issue with the decision,
ah I did. That's where myLebron James money money went. He raised
money for the Boys and Girls ClubShavinard. Come on, he's giving back
to charity. Yeah, and kickdirt in the face of the whole Cavs
organization. In the process there,he ultimately redeemed himself. I've come around

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on Lebron that I'm not as muchfor Lebron hater as I was at one
point in time. I have torespect what he's still doing. But yeah,
I was not a fan of thedecision at the time, and even
now we're looking back, is like, just do that a little bit differently,
man, It didn't need to beall that. Did you watch I
did? I'm a part of theproblem, all right. Some other items

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here, speaking of money that we'llnever see, John Rahm, how much
are you into the golf scene,Sean Benard. I do social clips for
the Swing and Digging podcasts, soI get on my info from them,
so somewhat into the golf scene.I would say, yeah, John Rahm,
he's signed with Live Golf. Biggestcontract in sports history, the students
going for. It's a mixed contractmoney and a percentage of a team worth

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more than five hundred euros. It'sjust crazy, crazy, crazy money.
But the big thing that everyone islosing their minds over number one. It's
twofold. As always with these players, the fact that these guys say they're
not gonna go, not gonna go, not gonna go, and then they
go, which understood happens in allline of work and especially in professional sports.

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But number two, which I seemore and more, including swinging a
ding. And I know that they'revery vocal about this, and we'll be
coming up here at five o'clock withtheir latest episode. But you know,
you got these guys. They're growingthe game and and and my opinion is
you're not growing the game until theyfigure out what the hell they got to
do. PGA Tour Live to syncup, which I thought was the plan,

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but we don't know where that isright now. Again, it's just
too much, right, there's justtoo much of a noise and whether or
not this is going to happen,and and and all this fanfare, and
it's just like, dude, youguys gotta make it easy for us as
fans, and right now I thinkwe're losing out as fans. Yeah,
I would agree with that overall,and especially like I saw there was a

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trade in live golf this week,which I didn't even know was a thing,
and like I thought, the wholeconcept originally when this was created that
Live was obviously a competitor of thePGA and the first kind of other source
of golf. And then we seethis merger or this purchase or whatever the
technical business terms are for them combining, and now they're still kind of existing
as different entities. And that's gonnabe even stranger when we see Live offering

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these contracts versus these guys in thePGA, still competing to get their money,
so very different setup. I don'tunderstand how the two are gonna marry
together. But I guess the biggesttakeaway for me throughout this whole thing is
the unfortunate reality of money makes theworld go round that when you throw a
lumpsun in front of people's face,they're not gonna turn it down when it
means what it means to these guys. And we're talking about these ridiculous sums

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of money that I can't even clownthese guys for taking it and making the
decision. I understand all the politicalties and standpoints of guys that don't want
to go over. I respect itif you want to put your money where
your mouth is and not accept tothere being kind of a conclusion to this
and whatever the outcome of that isI'm very enticed by and curious to see
what it is. But it's beena bizarre sports story for sure, and

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something that I never thought I wouldsee in my lifetime. No, yeah,
it's absolutely wild, it really is. That's a lot of money,
but yeah, you know, weget it. Money makes the world go
around, as you said, sowe'll see what happens. I just think
Live and PGA need to come togetheror not one or the other. Just
like, hey, if you're gonnasplit, then fine, if you're I
thought you guys were getting together,Like that's not the case. Just want

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some truth here and some honesty.And I don't know if we're going to
get that anytime soon. But Liveright now as a couple of big name
golfers and endless pockets, it seemsso. I mean, that's just an
unbelievable amount of money. And onceyou sign there, it's not like you're
like you're done. You're fully committedfor the rest of your life. And
you can't go back to the PATour. Maybe it's a year off.

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I don't know what it is,but you can still play in the Masters.
He's the Rainy Masters Champion, taketake the money for two three seasons,
whatever it may may be. Inlive he's twenty nine, come back
to the PGA in thirty, thirtyfour, thirty three, whatever it may
be. Like, all right,you just earned all that money. Cool.
I don't know, There's got tobe some other details in a contract,

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but it is what it is atthis point in time. All right.
And finally, Heisman Trophy going downtomorrow. Know John Jansen on today's
show, who do you think JohnJansen voted for Sean if you had the
guess. If I had a guess, I would think Jayden Daniels. So
that I think Jade Daniels is ultimatelygoing to be crowned for it. I'm
not my pick. I wish Pennisplayed better in that that backwall game,

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the against the Ducks there that Iwould love to be pounding the table saying
Penix deserves it. He didn't.He didn't play that well. We have
to kind of wear that one.I think the opportunity to win it was
there for him and he didn't fullyrise to it. So even though Jade
and Daniels was sitting at home duringthe conference title game, I still think
he comes and his crownd Heisman tomorrownight. Yeah, I agree, man,
I agree, that's what's gonna happen. Pennix was there, though,

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You're right, Pennix was there,had some open throws, was unable to
make it and Throust's history, butthey did win. So I'm curious to
see how many people are going tovalue the win loss margin. And Penix's
numbers weren't that far off from Jadeand Daniels, but it does seem like
it's gonna go the other way.Fantastic job. Sean Bernard on everything a

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