July 22, 2023 • 49 mins
Come along for an engaging conversation with the fiercely independent rapper, Ray P, as he makes a resounding return to the music scene after a four-year hiatus. Ray P, who is no stranger to the struggles of making it in the music industry, candidly shares his journey, challenges faced, and the transformative power of appreciating small victories. We also delve into the pivotal role of friendship in reigniting his passion for music, leading to an outpouring of creativity resulting in numerous EPs and singles.
In a rapidly changing music industry, Ray P navigates the tide like a seasoned captain, discussing the evolution of the terrain as well as the trials independent artists face today. With technology making music more accessible, Ray P emphasizes on the importance of authenticity and self-belief before seeking validation from others. We also journey back to his childhood, where a love for hip-hop was born, nurtured, and eventually led to his first hip-hop CD purchase with his own hard-earned money.
As we traverse through the diverse landscape of hip-hop, Ray P underscores the significance of a supportive community in the industry. We also discuss his upcoming collaboration with Roxanne Luciano and his unusual but passionate love for food. As a cherry on top, we get a spicy take on the current sriracha trend. So buckle up and gear up for an enlightening escapade filled with stories, insights, and of course, excellent music.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
There you go Yo yo yo what's happening.
Everybody, Thank you forclicking that play button, as
always, and we got specialguests.
Today we have rapper andrecording artist out of Saginaw,
Michigan, Ray P, coming on, soenjoy the show and kick that
music.
Let's get this.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah, what's up with it.
Do it cause I love it and Istuck with it.
We ain't with the sub and inthe cut with it.
Please, none of the talks.
I heard enough of it.
Like what you gon' do when you,at who you with.
You ain't really bout this.
Don't talk about it.
Really, on the move on the map,never slip.
Keep your hands, see your lips.
Don't talk about it.
Real eyes, real eyes, real eyes.
(00:56):
All the time.
Stand on it.
If we set it, we don't walkaround it.
Los lips ain't ships.
Red cup, blue strips, new phonewho dis?
No, we don't allow it.
Really, on, go, I don't knowwhat's the off day.
Now we on roll.
Keep on smoking in the hallway.
Now we got shows.
Boys falling like BroadwayAlways look both ways, even on
the crossway climbing downcross-bay.
Our town park lays really on.
(01:16):
Big teams came up a small way.
Championship rings.
Baby, that's a ball team.
All she want a little bag.
Baby, that's small chain.
Yeah, that money.
Talk.
If we ain't cool, then cut meoff.
No, breaking news, don't runyour mouth.
Thought it was a plug, now herunning off.
Thought it was a plug, now heain't running off.
What you gonna do where you at,who you with.
You ain't really bout this.
Don't talk about it.
(01:37):
Really.
On the move on the map, neverslip, keep your hands, see your
lips.
Don't talk about it.
Real eyes, real eyes, real eyes.
All the time.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
What's up?
What's up, man, I'm alive, I'min this thing, man.
How you everybody doing mangood to be on the show, dan hey
thanks for coming on.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Always love to have like independent artists coming
on here.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Give them a platform to let their music be heard.
But, yeah, go ahead and take asecond to introduce yourself to
the audience out there.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, everybody, my name's Ray P.
You can find me everywhere onsocial media under Ray P Music
Been making music for a longtime, man.
I kind of shut it down for alittle bit.
I've been releasing since 2020again, man, so I'm getting the
ball rolling.
Everybody that's you know.
After you watch this interview,you want to join in and get on
(02:48):
the team or whatever.
Listen to music.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm not looking for fans orsupporters.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm looking for listeners.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm really looking for nothingtoo much.
But if you enjoy the music,enjoy the interview.
You know what I'm saying.
Lock in with your boy.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
That's right.
Yeah, all his links are in thedescription below everyone
watching.
And yes, thank you again forcoming on.
And you said you, you're justnow like returning into music.
Like what happened?
Did you?
Did you like, just like, decideyou didn't want to do it at one
point.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, you know, I had been doing it for a long time
and then, you know, life justgets around.
You know life happens.
So I had to lock in on a lot ofother stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
And.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I was just, I was just done with it Shit.
I just thought I was done.
I thought I was done, man, andI took about four years off.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And and then something happened to where I
just wanted to see if I can doit kind of like prove it to
myself, and my guy who was doinga lot of my production double R
he kind of, he kind of got inmy ear like come on, man, let's
make some you know, some realmusic.
So that kind of kind of got megoing.
Man, we locked in, we did onesong and the band from there
turned into an EP and you know,keep dropping EPs and singles
(04:11):
and start working with otherpeople you know, just once the
ball gets rolling man, you knowyou can't unpop that tempo.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Right, yeah, exactly.
Exactly, yeah, I get the samefeeling with this thing, Like
sometimes I don't want.
I don't want to do a show.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
It's like I don't want to do it.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
But you know you, you push through it because it's
about to get so much better.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
But the thing is, man , sometimes you get discouraged
because of what your idea, orother people's ideas, of success
is, and all that for a whileand then, and then you realize
that you was, you was beingsuccessful the whole time to
yourself.
You know what I'm saying For me,I'm a fan of my own music, so
(04:53):
and that's not like in like twoof my own horn type of way it's
just I want to hear what I'mgoing to say next.
It's like if I was a fan ofJay-Z, I'm waiting for the next
Jay-Z album.
So I'm a fan of Ray P.
And then, like as the fan part,I'm like I want to hear what
I'm going to do, like I'm readyto listen to some new shit.
So eventually I make, I makestuff, and it's just like I make
(05:17):
stuff for me that I like and Iknow that other people would
like it, because it's it's, it's.
I'm never going to have to hitplay and then say, oh well, this
is, I was just trying this, orif you really want to hear how I
sound, and you can go listen tothis.
Now, like all that shit is allthat shit is representing what
it needs to represent.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Okay, yeah, you just just keep it.
Keep it true.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, yeah, because, man, that's the really man.
When you're making this music,you don't know if you'll have
any fans.
You know what I'm saying.
So you're the only fan that youreally have for sure.
I mean, you got to satisfy thatfan first, and then, and then,
once you can satisfy that fan,you can satisfy, you know, other
people.
Right, you got to satisfyyourself first, though,
(06:02):
otherwise that shit is nevergoing to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
You know that's the most important thing is that if
you don't believe this, if, if,if you don't believe it's not
going to happen, if you don'tbelieve it's going to happen,
then why would anybody else?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And it depends on what you, what you want.
You understand some people wantto be rich, some people want to
be famous, some people want toget to a certain skill level,
some people want to.
You know it's different.
You know the average personcan't write a song but he had
put together album and puttogether multiple albums and you
know that's a certain skill manthat motherfuckers kind of
sleep on and underrate.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Right, when did you start start writing?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Man, I was real young , I was a teenager, probably
like middle school and shit LikeI've always done it.
That's why I still do it.
It's almost like a thing that Ido.
You know.
It's like even when amotherfucking retired from
playing basketball, they stillgo out and in the in the
driveway and shoot them jumpersand fuck on you never lose that
jumper.
You know Steph Curry going tobe 80.
He'll shoot a three.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Might not look so pretty, but yeah, he's still
shooting.
Yeah, wow.
So, like 14 years old, youdecided you wanted to be.
This is what you wanted to dowith music.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Well, I mean, you know, it was just like kind of
right now, I didn't 14 years oldman, I wasn't making no
decisions.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You know I was out here, shit.
We was out here thugging anddrinking and fucking off.
You know I wasn't even thinkingabout being alive long enough
to fucking make music.
Oh, wow it was rapping andfreestyling and fucking off.
And you know, I've always, youknow, like if it's a group of us
, I'm always the one that takesup a little fucking past where
it's supposed to go.
(07:46):
I'm playing a little moreserious, or whatever.
So I'm the one who got thenotebooks, I'm starting to write
and I'm starting to figure thisshit out and finding places to
record.
And when really, we was justall freestyling in the hood
while we were fucking wastingtime, you know right, we just
got good at it and gave it fuck.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, I remember going down to like Hamilton
Street on Fridays and Saturdaynights and you just see like a
cipher breakout all this on theroad.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Oh yeah, man, there's a lot of guys, man, a lot of
guys.
Back then, you know, in thescene, the scene is starting to,
you know, it's a reemergence ofthe same now A lot of young
folks.
It's crazy.
I'm like one of the only peoplethat's still active from before
or, you know, getting reactiveI guess.
But all those young people, man, they, you know, sometime the
(08:36):
older artists, you know, knockthe young artists.
Young artists knock the oldartists or whatever older
artists.
But really, man, you can learn,we can learn, man, because I
got young artists.
They teach.
You know what I'm saying, notteach me per say, but you know I
can watch and see what they do.
These motherfuckers arestreaming, making videos for
every song.
You know what I'm saying.
Before I was trying to press upfucking CDs and sell them, you
(08:58):
feel me.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So you know, you got to.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
You got to change the game.
I mean, you got to change up,and that's what I learned from
the first time when I was in.
And then I took a break and Icame back and I said, all right,
let me take this shit seriousand really push this
motherfucking ass, or not.
It's like I'm getting streamsall over the world.
You know what I'm saying, butRay P is in places.
I've never been.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Right, exactly, yeah, it's like social media like
things like Spotify and stufflike that and all these podcast
platforms or music platforms,soundcloud.
They didn't have it back in theday, so it was a lot harder to
get your name out there, likeyour horizons.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
But now it's just like upload a song and you're
here to herd around the worldinstantly, yeah, and it's like
it's on these subscriptionswhere they're already paying $10
a month anyway.
Like, even when we did startgoing digital, it was almost
like file sharing.
You know what I'm saying.
It wasn't.
It wasn't like somewhere wherethey go.
Everybody listens to this musicyou download or whatever.
(09:57):
It was like a file share.
You had to email that shit orclick this link or whatever that
file can go down.
It was hard to keep track of,like how many downloads and shit
you had.
So right, like, man, when I hadan album called Raise the Rarer
, drop one, you know, back thereand it did way better than I
expected it.
Yeah, and trying to keep trackof all those fucking downloads
(10:20):
and all that type of shit, man,it was great.
It was like over 20, 20, 30something thousand downloads,
like way back in 07 or somethinglike that.
It was fucking hard to keeptrack of, Right.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Oh, we got someone telling us 22, 22 jokes.
Thank you for stopping in theshow.
Thank you Love his shows outthere too.
If you guys want to see somekiller ass, he just he has an
outdoor girl that'll knock yoursocks off.
Go watch.
Go watch these talk.
But yeah, 22 jokes, thank youfor.
Thank you for tuning in, sir,but yeah, it's, it's.
(10:57):
It's amazing just like how,like it expanded even those like
music nowadays, like fromgetting your music heard to just
making music as it is right now, like people are just using
their phones, like you can makea beat on your phone, like with
intent.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, it's crazy, that's what I'm saying.
Like, man, you can't blame thetools.
You know what I'm saying?
Can't blame the tools.
It's like even some peopleblame the tools and say, oh,
that it's making it to whereeverybody can do it.
And now I mean, so what?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I'm gonna fucking everybody.
Ben could do it.
I mean it, don't make it towhere everybody can do it.
It makes it to where everybodycan afford to do it Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Because just can you, justbecause it's free or just
because it's affordable, don'tmean you're gonna be good.
Yeah, exactly, it's free to.
It's free to go buy thematerial and build a fucking
house If you know how you do itright.
(11:49):
If not, it's gonna be adoghouse.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Exactly.
You can go on the woods, chopdown some trees, shave it all
down.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Do your own thing.
I mean, like I said shit beforewe was, before we was doing the
string shit, I was out therewalking my dogs printing CDs out
and fucking setting them in themail and doing all that shit,
so keeping track of downloadsand shit.
So you know, if you want to doit, you can do it.
My fuck has been making musicand blowing up and becoming
world success.
This fucking vinyl was beingpressed and shit you know vines
(12:21):
making a comeback too, oh yeahman, it's crazy.
I just gave all my vinyl away.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Oh yeah, vinyl.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
It was a friend of mine, man, close friend of mine.
I gave it to his mom just toget him out, get him out the way
, and she enjoyed himself, ohnice.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Kick it back a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I invited a lot of people shared a lot of shared it
.
Hopefully people pop in askquestions, whatever anybody
that's in there.
Now they got questions.
I'm with it.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, leave a comment Some comments and questions
below.
But I remember my grandfatherhad his Jimi Hendrix.
It was a Jimi Hendrix vinyl.
It was still on the rapping andI was I think it was like 10,
maybe 12 years old and this isback when scratching was like,
was like, was huge.
Everyone wanted to be, wanted tobe one of the scratch.
(13:15):
But we had an old record player.
So I was like all right, cool,you know, unwrapped it, set it
on there, scratched a livinghell out of this, fucking, out
of this vinyl, scratched aliving shit out of it.
He comes home and he sees it,he sees it on the vinyl, on the
record player, and he's like didyou open this?
And I was like, yep, and hegoes, he goes, he just cost me,
(13:35):
he just cost me a bunch of money.
And I was like, oh damn, I'mlike shit, he's gonna look at it
.
So he opens up the recordplayer, looks at the vinyl, he's
like what the fuck?
Like I had scratched so hardthat the needle will like
pressed a line right through thevinyl.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Oh, yeah, yeah, scratch the vinyl up and shit.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Oh no, I scratched right through the vinyl.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Oh, you can see through the motherfucker.
Oh yeah, he was really fuckingoff.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, everyone wanted to be the DJ back then, but
yeah, I got my ass up to thatStill to this day still, to this
day, when I, when I see DJs, djman, I'm still impressed.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I got close friends.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I got close friends that are DJs and I mean, man,
it's just a skill.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, that's an art for work, that's a D instrument
all in itself.
To be honest with you, To dirtinstrument on itself.
It's just amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, it's an important.
It's an important support rowman.
When somebody, when somebodyasked me to do the show, one of
the first things I asked iswho's the DJ?
Okay, that's important.
Anybody about the half melooking like no goddamn fool up
there?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Right, exactly, but yeah, speaking of shows from
being from Saginaw Michigan, doyou go up to that?
Waits buyers on Thursday nights.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, I've been.
I've been two of them.
I think there's been like threeof them.
So yeah, I went up there.
I get in and I get out Check itout.
It's always cool.
You know I mess with my boyastray.
You know I'm saying he's comingout.
You know doing his thing a lot,a lot more lately.
No, I just getting this.
You know saying it's everybodygetting the ball rolling.
(15:24):
You know I'm saying it's coolman, as good, as good to see.
You know I'm saying like youcould get motivation from other
people working.
Other people get motivationfrom seeing you working.
You know I'm saying he's one ofthe guys who came, you know,
just a little before me.
So it's good to seemotherfuckers still active.
Man, it's like I felt like Iwas the one of the only ones
that was still active from inour time zone, right, which is
(15:46):
you know why?
I got an album coming outthat's fully produced by Double
Rs called the last og.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Okay cuz.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I mean, that's just what it is like, even not even
music, musically, but justoverall.
Man, even where I'm from, in myneighborhood man, I've been
living in this one house it'ssame house 30 something years
and I'm the last motherfuckerleft in this whole area that I
know everybody's dead locked upor can't come back, right,
(16:18):
that's just you know.
It was just an appropriatetitle the last og.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah, yep, yeah, sagging on, yeah, mean streets
of Saginaw yeah, I used, I livedthere for a little bit.
I've had, I've had a lot offriends that are, like you said,
either locked up or dead now,yeah, it's crazy.
It's crazy how, like, how pathsturn.
Yeah yeah, it's crazy man.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, because I mean we know none of us ain't in no
great spot.
But man, sometime I see some ofmy people that I was real close
with not I would not changeplaces with their Right.
It's like they still doing this.
They're still doing what we wasdoing when we were 16.
You know, say he'll walk intothe store trying to catch the
store at 2 o'clock, finding adrink, whatever the fuck
(17:03):
bullshit.
No fucking day damn.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, growing hours for our responsibilities.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I gotta pay fucking deals man.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, I think I never did, but yep, yep, going down
wrong the wrong paths, but stillwell, yeah, good, good to see
you coming back and making some,making some music.
I dabbled into your Spotify.
I've been listening to musicpretty much all week and you
have like a very it's a veryMidwest style, like you're
(17:35):
pretty much your storytellingthroughout the, throughout your
whole, throughout the your songs, and I always tell people I
love the story, I love peoplethat story tell in their songs.
Yeah, it always is.
It just brings you in like youget trapped in.
You get pretty much just gettrapped in the moment.
So when you start to write likewhat, what, what takes you to
(17:57):
that mode where you just need,where you just I, I gotta get a
pen and paper and some writing.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, but it's kind of crazy that you said like most
of my music is storytelling,because, man, I hate when I
listen to music and it's likestorytelling.
But yeah, I hate when it's likea story from Point a to hold a
whole story.
You know one whole storysometime.
Oh right, he grew up, he didthis.
He robbed the bank.
(18:22):
You got locked up.
He did something like I hatethat shit.
Oh right but I try to throw like, why don't really try?
It just comes out, natural, man.
It's like when I'm talking, youknow, shit comes out.
I've been around, man, I know alot, I've seen a lot.
I mean, you know, I don't knoweverything, I'm just saying I
experienced a lot of shit, man,so I Ain't never talking for
(18:45):
nothing, nice.
So so if I talk, you know, it'sgonna be some of that
experience, some of that shitcoming out.
So every it's like almost likeI like I said I'm a fan of my
own music.
So after it's done and I'mlistening, I'm like, damn, it's
like small stories allthroughout the music, not like
one whole, not like not like asong is a whole Story, right?
(19:09):
I'm saying it's just bow, bow,little story, bow, oh shit.
Oh you're, there's a bunch ofjust a bunch of game, bunch of
situations, a bunch of you know,I'm saying it's just things
that I see, man.
That's why sometimes I take alittle break, because I got to
live some life, I gotta seewhat's happening, I gotta learn
from other people's mistakes, Igot to see where people fucking
up.
And then I come out and IRecord, not kind of say, man,
(19:32):
you wouldn't be dead if you wasdoing it this way, right.
I'm saying you will be alive bro.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Right, exactly, exactly.
We're gonna get into a videoreal quick.
This is your video.
This is it's rapey in a stray,it's headboard.
But before we do that, can youwant to talk about this a little
bit like what went into makingmaking the video?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Well, yeah, man, um, I, it was cool man.
I don't really I don't reallydo videos too much.
I'm saying I don't really dothese, these podcasts, too much,
like that.
I'm really kind of just, I liketo make music and put it out
and see what people think.
But that's why it's cool, man.
I appreciate you hitting me up,man, cuz I never I never try to
hit people up hey, can I get onthat show?
Hey, can I do this, can I do?
(20:13):
It's always genuine interestwhen somebody comes to me.
That's why, yeah, it's it'shard for me to turn these down,
because it's like what this youknow, just do, interested, and
you got platform source.
It works double.
But so, yeah, I was a, I was athome.
Yeah, straight, hit me up man.
(20:34):
He said you know, I haven'tdone no videos in a while, I
haven't done you know much in awhile, and he's seen that I was
active and he was like man Icould, uh, you know, if you want
to do something that way, I Canget.
You know he can get his ballrolling.
People knows he's, he shootsvideos and he's producing and
everything like that.
Everybody knew that, like downin Detroit and everything.
(20:54):
But you know, you know stray iskind of a.
You know he's been around solong, everybody knows who he is.
I'm saying, you think he'sprobably.
You know you don't want to hitup a string.
So he had to let it be knownthat he was out and willing to,
you know, to work and everything.
So we linked up.
He asked me if I had anything.
(21:14):
I went over there, he played acouple beats and, man, we found
something.
I think he had this, you know,some of it done, and then he
added some while I was there, orsomething like that.
Okay but man, yeah, I showed up,I had a song already complete
and ready to go, we found theright beat to it and everything,
and man, we bang that right out.
(21:35):
Man, and Australia's a bad manas far as like the sound quality
and all that type of stuff.
He knows his shit.
So when he asked me to hit, youknow I always been a you know,
a listener of his music as well.
He's been, you know, we alwayshad a mutual respect for a few
years.
So to be able to go and workwith him was cool and just, you
(21:56):
know I've gotten a verse fromhim on a track before, okay, and
but to actually be in thestudio with him and working, you
know I'm saying to see how heworks and what does he do?
And it's, you know, I'm alwaystrying to soak up the game, so
yeah, we did that.
And then we, you know, we shotthe video and we put it out.
Man, and you know I always likemy videos to be, you know, just
(22:18):
kind of raw.
I don't really want to do toomuch.
I don't want to borrow nobody'snecklace or nothing like that
Right, keep it normal, and shit.
So we did bad, and you knowAustralia's bad man with the
camera and editing andeverything.
It just, it just worked out forboth of us.
Man.
It's like man.
We both, you know, needed thatshit.
But, but I like the video.
(22:40):
Everything came out good, man.
The song is good, theproduction is good, everything
is good.
It's one of the biggest songsthat I've done as far as numbers
since I've come back.
So so yeah, man, it's.
You know it's good.
I Wrote the word, so I standbehind it, you know.
Say that's right.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, stand behind your product.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Definitely definitely .
Speaker 1 (23:00):
That's right, everybody, yeah.
So take a few minutes.
Light up, spark up, roll ofwhatever you guys got to do Let
her rip man enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I'm about to check it out.
I haven't watched it in a while.
I like it too.
There we go.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
So you go.
Here you go.
Here you go, everybody Rapeenastray I produced by a stray
headboard.
Enjoy, I strain, it is beat.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Gotta make a change.
My bitch wanna complain.
See it on the face.
She ain't gotta say a thing.
I'm loving what I said.
I can't stand where I'm land.
I don't want to rob a kill, butI'm just saying, though, I got
a real reason to be laying lowwhen it's kill season.
I never make it known.
Got some feelings in my bonesand they can't be shown.
Only thing good to be noted asI made it home, I know that
(23:51):
quoted, if they loaded todaymobile phones, I've been loaded
with it loaded, I can hold myown blind, folded and alone.
I never gave my zone.
Couple people in the hole usedto hate my soul.
Can you feel it?
I feel it.
The feelings mutual.
I don't see how y'all stillcool with niggas who shoot at
you, but I'm a dude me.
I see you doing you.
I'll ask for ever been a realnigga through and through.
(24:12):
When I go to sleep, I keep itright on the nightstand.
I'ma tell a lie and court raisein my right hand.
When I go to sleep, I keep itright on the headboard.
A lot of people gone and wedon't know why they care for.
When I go to sleep, I keep itright on the nightstand.
I'ma tell a lie and court raisein my right hand.
When I go to sleep, I keep itright on the headboard.
A lot of people gone and wedon't know why they care for and
(24:34):
they ain't coming back.
So why the fuck is y'allstressing for just a couple
checkers that was slipping offthe chessboard.
A man dying Always got the beststory trying to get some credit
in the last of his real glory.
Too many got too many secretsto tell.
I got a few myself, but I'mkeeping them held.
I can stand in shallow water inthe deep in this world.
You was fired by success.
(24:55):
For me, as people who failed, Ican't make the same mistakes as
you motherfuckers.
I can't keep sharing my platewith you.
Blood suckers Gotta stay out ofthe way.
Won't let the law touch us now.
They got hate back in the day.
They used to all of us.
Palm touches don't mean whatthey used to mean, so I give
that to suckers and don'tconfuse the team.
A tight grip for the real.
(25:15):
Only I got a few favors in thestreets that they still owe me.
When I go to sleep, I keep itright on the nightstand.
I'ma tell a lie and court raisein my right hand.
When I go to sleep I keep itright on the headboard.
A lot of people gone and wedon't know why they care for.
When I go to sleep, I keep itright on the nightstand.
I'ma tell a lie and court raise.
In my right hand.
(25:35):
When I go to sleep I keep itright on the headboard a lot of
people gone and we don't knowwhy they care for.
Who gives a fuck?
How you living if they ain'tliving with you?
Learn from other niggas with alife in the prison, get you.
But I'm still out here dealingwith some different issues, only
speaking out to the real.
They know this is official Redand blue rags.
Red and blue rags.
Nine out of ten of us neverknew.
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That's nine out of ten of usnever blew back Somebody doing
worse.
I guess we ain't doing bad then.
I ain't front and shit.
I take it on the back end.
Ever try to play me.
Take you out like a trash.
Can Fuckers get their peoplesinvolved?
Now, all of a sudden, policekeep getting calls.
I keep watching all theselittle niggas getting big.
I'm out the way so much theyprobably think I did a bit.
(26:19):
But they understand, cuz all ofus just trying to live deaf,
came to visit my city and took acollege kid.
When I go to sleep, I keep itright on the nightstand.
I'ma tell a lie and court raisein my right hand.
When I go to sleep, I keep itright on the headboard a lot of
people gone and when on the whythey dare.
For when I go to sleep, I keepit right on the nightstand.
I'ma tell a lie and court raisein my right hand.
(26:41):
When I go to sleep, I keep itright on the headboard a lot of
people gone and we don't knowwhy they care for you.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yes, yes, I love that piano.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I love the piano in that song yeah, yeah, man,
that's what I really like, man.
That's man.
When I hear a beat is just likeone little certain thing that I
really like about it, and thenthat's that.
That's all I need.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah, it's, it's a beautiful song.
You, when he does a little,just listen to the beat itself.
It's a beautiful song, and thenhe's add the lyrics onto it.
It's just amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, that's one of the things too, man, I look in,
I look for beats, I like that,that, that beautiful ugly.
You know I'm saying quality,because the lyrics that I'm
gonna spit at the you know I'msaying shit ain't sweet around
here.
You know I'm saying so rightyou put that kind of stuff over
these.
You know I'm saying thesebeautiful beats, sometimes
soulful beats, and shit.
(28:35):
I just like that mix man.
It's like that, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I think that's yeah.
I think that's what most, mostMichigan artists are, are like
kind of known for, like you know, you can, you can see he's
there are Michigan artists.
When there's like I don't wantto say pain, like a little pain
and sadness, like within thebeat and if within the song, you
(28:59):
, you can feel like a littlegritty.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
It's like a little grittiness, just like yeah yeah
that's why I can't I.
That's why I just don't reallyget into me.
Personally, I can't make autohappy, go lucky, real.
You know I can't say, well,let's go make us a party song or
let's go do this, right, it'sjust I just makes.
I make songs that I want tohear.
(29:22):
I don't, I don't really listento that too much.
So I mean, I enjoy it whenother people are listening to it
.
I'm not like, hey, turn thatshit off.
You know, sam, but right, butme personally, when I'm just me,
I don't.
It's not, it's a lot of stuffthat I don't play yeah, but what
, what?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
what kind of stuff do you do like you?
Don't you not listen to?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
what kind of I ain't gonna, I ain't gonna throw
nothing under the bus or nothing, but I listen to all music.
I listen to all genres exceptfor R&B.
I listen to everything.
I like country, I like all thatshit, but I'm not listening to
R&B, like I'm not that fuckingcute.
I can't pull up to the cornerstory.
Grab Rellos banging fucking R&B.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah you get sideways looks if you're banging boys
and men you gotta turn.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
You gotta turn the shit down.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I gotta turn it down.
I don't need to listen to itpeople be looking at you
sideways like what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
yeah yeah, what the fuck?
They don't be being admitted,though?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
that shit is dope, but they don't be admitted
though in front a lot of thatshit is dope.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
You know say like my mom used to listen to a lot of
that shit.
You know, when I'm sittingthere barbecue, I like to listen
to some old soul or shit, youknow.
But uh, yeah, I don't know.
Just you know I ain't reallywith it.
What was your first?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
what was your first hip hop CD, your first rap album
that you bought with your ownmoney?
You can't use mama's can it bethe tape, or is it gotta be a CD
?
Oh no, it can be a tape.
Yeah, I forgot creeping on acome up keep it on, come up,
yeah, bonfire yeah bone.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Bone was a shit like that.
Yeah, yeah.
I heard that shit.
That should change the game forme.
I was like what the fuck I was,like I was like still a kid,
you feel me.
I think that was like 93.
So I was, you know, I was young, yeah.
But I heard that shit and I'mlike man, like that was like the
first music that I wantedmyself.
(31:25):
You know, I'm saying like Ineeded to, I needed to have that
, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
I was the first one I bought with with my own money,
was the Master P ghetto D album.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Okay yes, yeah, I bought that too well, see the
way, the way I was able to getthose.
You know, I lived in theneighborhood by the, by the flea
market man so we go, we go upthere and go buy albums and you
know, go buy the tapes and shit.
But I never really bought themuntil until I heard that bone
there's a harm in.
When I got to the flea marketI'm like I wonder, do they got
that?
(31:59):
You know that was the firsttime I really needed, you know,
a piece of music that I heardand have it for myself.
I play it whenever I want, likeany other time before that it
was just like, yeah, if I hearit, I hear it, if I don't, I
don't know.
I like shit.
But that young that's, that'skind of a sparked up to like.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I got by CD shit yeah , I was a little out.
I remember cassettes.
I remember buying cassettes,but when I was younger I was
only allowed to listen tocountry music because that's
what my grandparents liked andthat was the only thing I was
allowed to listen to countrymusic.
That's it okay.
I remember using those country,those cassettes and putting
(32:40):
tape over the little slots andthen putting my tape deck in
recording hip-hop and rap songsoff the radio with those country
, with those country cassettes.
So yeah, grandparents arepretty much wasting a bunch of
money buying me all thesecountry cassettes, but I'm just
recording over them.
The shit has bought me blanksyeah, just watching some blanks.
(33:00):
Yeah exactly, I would have beena much heavier with some, but
yep, hey, hey, shout out to thegranddad.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, I remember all that man, I remember, yeah, and
then I was.
I was one of the.
I was the dude, you know.
Music used to come out onTuesdays back in the day.
Music dropped on Tuesday.
So every Tuesday I was at, youknow, I was at at the mall or
Best Buy or whatever, you know.
It's like I didn't even knowwhat was coming out, I just knew
it was Tuesday and shit comesout you know, I'm saying so, I'm
(33:29):
, I'm grabbing, you know,whatever I was familiar with and
one thing that I never seenbefore, that was my rule I'm
grabbing everything I know.
I'm grabbing one thing I don'tknow so that was, you know, back
before internet.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Not, I had to put myself on right, yeah, like
going to Sam Goody every onTuesdays.
When your when the albumdropped, sam Goody came a lot
music.
You had a cam lot in thefashion square, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
oh, yeah, yeah, all that shit, man, my used to jump
back in the day before before itbecame a dead end.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
The hangout spot was the mall.
Everyone went to the mall.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, yeah, my sister told me she was going to the
mall the other day.
I said why?
I hope you, I hope you make ithome don't go to the most crime,
most crime happened in the mall.
You take a wrong turn in themall now yeah, our mall here in
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Midland is like depleted.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
There's nothing in it .
Speaker 2 (34:31):
We got some good food , we got good food in ours, and
that's it we don't have goodfood in ours, our food courts
really.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I think there's a McDonald's in the Taco Bell,
maybe a Sabro or some, but nowif ours at that?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
yeah, I didn't even know they have what you said in
Miller yeah.
I said I might be a middle endmore often I gotta go get that
nostalgic slice yeah you're likea like a pizza kind of story
I've seen.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I've seen some of your you had like food, like
food reviews on there too and Igrew.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I grew up next to next door a little Caesar's in
7-eleven.
You know I'm saying so, right,man, I've always, I'll always,
fucking pizza man.
So I'm just a quality dude whenit comes to food.
Everything gotta be good,quality, fresh, hot, whatever,
you know right?
So yeah, yeah, yeah, I likethat shit man.
I make my own pizza.
Yeah, I do, I do all kind of.
(35:26):
You know I'm in the food forsure.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
You know I'm saying right, you're like a foodie.
You go on try those those newsecret menus from like
McDonald's and shit now I don'tlike no twist.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
You know I'm saying you supposed to take some
classic and replicate itreplicated and you don't put
your own twist on shit.
Just make it great how it'sbeen great for a hundred years.
Don't go putting sriracha on itand shit it was sriracha on
everything nowadays.
I fucking hate it fuckingbarbecue chicken, bacon, ranch
(35:58):
pizza.
Get the fuck outta here, man.
Give me some pepperoni andcheese it's right, it's
something good just freshmozzarella.
I like pizza and I likebarbecue chicken.
I just don't want barbecuechicken pizza.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I'm good no, that's crazy.
I always get that barbecuechicken pizza or the Phillies or
the Phillies cheese steak pizza.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I'm like it's not sure it's not pizza ain't the
same?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
yeah what do you have going on in the future, future
projects, what you got comingout pretty soon future products.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Man projects, man I'm putting a well my boy, my man,
double-r.
I work real close with him.
He does a lot of my production,man keeps me sound good and
everything, so he's putting thefinal touches on this EP called
risky business okay yeah, I gota think five songs on there and
I got this song.
Where I'm, I gotta get thesefeatures, so I'm just getting it
(36:55):
all polished up so I could sendit out to those guys.
Get them a little time to gettheir verses done and everything
and and then we'll have thatout okay.
So that EP is already done.
Oh nice, and then I got an albumwith double R as well, called
the last OG, or where double Rdoes all the production and
everything.
(37:15):
I'm not eat on that EP as wellRisky business.
And then the album last OG doesall the production on that as
well.
Okay so we have that done.
That's just getting polished upand it's in the chamber.
So, and then from that I hookedup with my man's prophecy.
I don't know if you know aprophecy, but Prophecy is a bad
(37:38):
man.
He's a producer.
He was in the source awards wayback in the day for like
unsigned hype, back when itmeant something.
Okay so, yeah, he's a producer.
He produces for a lot of lot ofguys.
You know a lot of like ransomand shit like that.
So, yeah, he's bad man.
So me and him hooked up and Igot a whole album.
I'm complete with him.
(38:00):
I just got to record it and getit done.
So, yeah, everything for theyear is it's done.
You know, it's like if I, if Irecord right now, it's probably
not gonna come out till 2024.
Okay, I'm saying cuz I goteverything Pretty much lined up,
man.
So if you so, right now it's agood time to tap in, you know,
(38:20):
to to the rapey music.
If you know, if you justjumping on or if you been a
listener or whatever, you Knowme as a fan.
Like I said, it's a good timebecause I got, you know I got
three projects in the in thechamber, yes, coming out, you
know, sam.
So, man, it's a lot to lookforward to.
(38:41):
And then you know I I'm gonnaget a little more comfortable
with these videos and everything.
You know I got a couple.
I got a lot of good people on myteam and they always want to
shoot videos.
You know I'm saying they wantto.
You know, keep me in the loop.
So it's not like I don't havethe resources to do it, it's me
Kind of just being picky andhoping.
You know, damn, I hope thisshit comes out the way I think
(39:02):
it is, but I think the peoplethat I got on my team and
everything now that helps andsupports me, I think they're the
people that can really, youknow, bring this shit how I want
it to be.
You know, sam, so I'm gonna I'mgonna get into the Probably
dropping more videos and shittoo.
So, yeah, I think it's a goodtime and streams are going crazy
(39:24):
.
You know we're being streamedall over.
We got projects in the holsterand and then, you know, since I
got all my shit tight, now I got, now I'm thinking about who
would I like to work with.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
All right you know.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
So I'm hoping you know if there's artists out
there listening or whatever, andand you feel like you know as
far as the music, when you hearmy shit you feel like we related
music.
Wise, hit your boy up now.
You know, I know I'm a regularmotherfucker.
I'll let you boy.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Exactly, yeah, hell, hell, hell.
Yeah.
The collaboration that's what Ilike to see too Collaboration
like like when two people thathave been on my on my show
because it's happened many, Iwant to say many times this
happened a few, but I've hadnumerous people, numerous guests
on my shows and I love it whenthey all of a sudden just
(40:16):
collaborate with each other andthen you just see, like, like,
like, like, beauty happen either.
Podcasting, or music or comedyor anything like.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
That's why it's a good thing to do these, man,
because, like you know, foreverybody it's hard to find
people who are like-minded, liketalented, you know whatever,
making the same type of you knowthe same type of shit you
making.
Nobody's doing what you'redoing, but you know something
that you feel like you cancollab with and mix with you
know.
So it's kind of hard to findthem type of people outside you
(40:52):
feel, but uh, but yeah, yeah,like I said, there's a lot,
there's a lot in the chamber,awesome, awesome.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Well, I can't wait to hear it.
Bro Ray P, out there everyonedoing.
He's doing big things out inSagitton, michigan, so keep your
eye out for this man.
Do you enjoy making albums orjust putting out singles more?
Because I've heard that Somepeople just enjoy putting out
singles and see and having onesong drop at a time and see
(41:21):
where that goes from there, kindof like feeling the audience.
But when you're dropping analbum you're pretty much just
like this is, this is what I'mputting out, and pretty much
like how do you feel?
how do you feel about droppingEPs towards Albums?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
well, see, this is the thing.
Remember how I said I had tolearn from the young folks.
You feel you got to change thegame.
I was always, I'm always, analbum artist.
I'm always trying to puttogether a project.
I always want to press, playand walk away.
You know, say I always want my,my listeners to be able to hit,
play and walk away.
But it's good to put thosesingles out too.
(42:04):
You know I'm saying you want toput those out and basically let
you Let your let your fans andyour listeners know what you're
doing or where you're going,where you're heading, and Just
keep them in tune.
You know, I'm saying because itmight it might take you a year
to make that album for certainpeople Right you know I know
some guys who bang for fivealbums out in a year or a year.
You know that's unusual.
(42:25):
Like I said, I got threeprojects in the in the whole
street, I mean in the chamber.
That's unusual.
Not a lot of people do that.
I don't usually do that.
So, yeah, I forgot what I wasgoing with that.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
But yeah, it's, it's, it's crazy, it's crazy.
But before, before we go,what's your mouth?
Your Mount Rushmore of hip-hopartists.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Man.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Mount Rushmore you talk about like my favorites are
like legit my from MountRushmore I go with.
Mount Rushmore Fuck myfavorites.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yeah, like the legit, you go legit.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
You gotta throw Jay Z on there, like he's like Jay's.
Yeah, like he's On there, forsure, whether you like them or
not, true.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
I was like doing this .
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I always put them on the spot and I was taking.
Yeah, I don't know if you gottathink about it, it's a thing I
don't know if you could throwlike what can we?
Speaker 2 (43:28):
can we just say Dev Jam, what the fuck can?
Speaker 1 (43:31):
I say like that, like the whole.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Who started that shit ?
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Like met the man red man Do the.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Chris no, I'm talking about Russell Simmons and Rick
Rubin and shit.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Okay, was it Russell Simmons.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Started Jeff Jam.
Oh, that type of shit.
Either way, man, they're bothfuckers.
Change the game.
Got the ice cube over there?
Yep, ice cube.
You know, if you want to sayNWA, you can.
You can break that down, icecube.
He was the brain behind that.
That's hard not to put dr Dreon there.
Yes, it's true.
Jay Z, jay Z, ice cube, jz IceCube, dr Dre and fucking, I
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don't know.
I'm asking you somebody downsouth.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
For best of you, just to throw about there.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
I don't know man.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
I always like asking that question because everyone
gets stumped at it and you'rejust like man, you gotta think
about it.
Cause there's a lot of greatartists out there, but a Mount
Rushmore only four.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yeah, I can't do that , Like I don't even have.
I used to have favorite rappersand shit.
I don't even have favoriterappers, Just a bunch of
motherfuckers.
I listen to man.
A bunch of people, bunch ofshit, yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
So yeah, like it would be like probably Biggie
Poc, eminem and Nas, that wouldbe.
That'd probably be my four, butthen I'm also leaving out like
a bunch of other people, likeJay-Z, ice Cube, dre, snoop, I
mean, but there's a lot ofcurrent people.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
There's a lot of current people, juice.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
World, you know.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
You got the whole Brazil to count.
You know what I'm saying.
West Side Gun, conway Benny.
Then they got Rome Streets andStowe God and fucking Bully
James, and you know what I'msaying.
Then you got my man, daniel'sson, that I had on that Golden
Key song.
You know what I'm saying.
All the you know what I'msaying.
The Steve Autumn motherfuckingman.
It's just a whole fucking treeof people.
(45:30):
Like, if you get into it, it'sjust like Autumn motherfuckers
making good music and yeah, thatshit's good man.
That's another thing that'sgood about music, man, right now
and this time, like you canfind what you want to hear.
You know what I'm saying.
There's a lot of bad music, butit's good to somebody.
(45:53):
You know what I'm saying.
But you got to find your shityou got to find your community,
find your shit that you fuckwith.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, my Spotify is full of independent artists and
90s hip hop.
Pretty much 90s and early 2000ship hop.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Yeah, man, you got to get into the now hip hop man.
That's a lot of good music outthere now, so I like a little
bit.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
I like Juice World, juice World, future, drake,
obviously.
But yeah, most of it's likeearly hip, early 2000s, late 90s
, crazy, crazy.
But, yeah, I don't want tothink too much more of your time
here, ray.
Thank you for coming through.
If you have any shout outs oryou want to plug your social
(46:42):
media, now's the time to do it,sir.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yeah, yep, just like I said, follow me everywhere.
Ray P music man.
If you got Spotify, follow here, cause, like I said, I got a
lot of music coming out.
So by standing following thatyou automatically, you're
automatically in touch Instagram.
I'm active on Instagram.
I got a TikTok.
I'm trying to fuck with that.
I was talking to that.
(47:05):
You know what I'm saying, butit's cool at the same time.
So I put a lot of stuff onthere, a lot of cooking tool
shit.
I mean they're bullshitting alittle bit, not too much.
I ain't dancing or nothing.
I don't never dance, yeah.
So yeah, follow me everywhere,man.
My Facebook is active.
Everything is active.
We're dropping videos onYouTube.
(47:26):
I had to get a whole newYouTube account, so I only got a
few subscribers.
If you do that, do that.
And yeah, man, I appreciate you, dad For reaching out.
Man, I always seen other peoplegetting out here.
You know what I'm saying.
I always liked the quality ofguests.
When you invited me, I lookeddown here.
I seen a bunch of cool peopleout here, and you know what I'm
(47:47):
saying.
It's a legit good platform.
It's a good thing that you'redoing, man, as independent
artists.
This is some shit that we needyou know what I'm saying.
We don't always have theseplatforms and being able to let
motherfuckers know who we are orwhatnot.
So yeah, man I appreciate youtoo, man, but you guys can
(48:08):
follow me at Rapey Music, man.
I got shit coming out all yearman.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
That's right.
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Everybody, Thank you forclicking that play button, as
always, and we got specialguests.
Today we have rapper andrecording artist out of Saginaw,
Michigan, Ray P, coming on, soenjoy the show and kick that
music.
Let's get this.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah, what's up with it.
Do it cause I love it and Istuck with it.
We ain't with the sub and inthe cut with it.
Please, none of the talks.
I heard enough of it.
Like what you gon' do when you,at who you with.
You ain't really bout this.
Don't talk about it.
Really, on the move on the map,never slip.
Keep your hands, see your lips.
Don't talk about it.
Real eyes, real eyes, real eyes.
(00:56):
All the time.
Stand on it.
If we set it, we don't walkaround it.
Los lips ain't ships.
Red cup, blue strips, new phonewho dis?
No, we don't allow it.
Really, on, go, I don't knowwhat's the off day.
Now we on roll.
Keep on smoking in the hallway.
Now we got shows.
Boys falling like BroadwayAlways look both ways, even on
the crossway climbing downcross-bay.
Our town park lays really on.
(01:16):
Big teams came up a small way.
Championship rings.
Baby, that's a ball team.
All she want a little bag.
Baby, that's small chain.
Yeah, that money.
Talk.
If we ain't cool, then cut meoff.
No, breaking news, don't runyour mouth.
Thought it was a plug, now herunning off.
Thought it was a plug, now heain't running off.
What you gonna do where you at,who you with.
You ain't really bout this.
Don't talk about it.
(01:37):
Really.
On the move on the map, neverslip, keep your hands, see your
lips.
Don't talk about it.
Real eyes, real eyes, real eyes.
All the time.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
What's up?
What's up, man, I'm alive, I'min this thing, man.
How you everybody doing mangood to be on the show, dan hey
thanks for coming on.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Always love to have like independent artists coming
on here.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Give them a platform to let their music be heard.
But, yeah, go ahead and take asecond to introduce yourself to
the audience out there.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, everybody, my name's Ray P.
You can find me everywhere onsocial media under Ray P Music
Been making music for a longtime, man.
I kind of shut it down for alittle bit.
I've been releasing since 2020again, man, so I'm getting the
ball rolling.
Everybody that's you know.
After you watch this interview,you want to join in and get on
(02:48):
the team or whatever.
Listen to music.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm not looking for fans orsupporters.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm looking for listeners.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm really looking for nothingtoo much.
But if you enjoy the music,enjoy the interview.
You know what I'm saying.
Lock in with your boy.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
That's right.
Yeah, all his links are in thedescription below everyone
watching.
And yes, thank you again forcoming on.
And you said you, you're justnow like returning into music.
Like what happened?
Did you?
Did you like, just like, decideyou didn't want to do it at one
point.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, you know, I had been doing it for a long time
and then, you know, life justgets around.
You know life happens.
So I had to lock in on a lot ofother stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
And.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I was just, I was just done with it Shit.
I just thought I was done.
I thought I was done, man, andI took about four years off.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And and then something happened to where I
just wanted to see if I can doit kind of like prove it to
myself, and my guy who was doinga lot of my production double R
he kind of, he kind of got inmy ear like come on, man, let's
make some you know, some realmusic.
So that kind of kind of got megoing.
Man, we locked in, we did onesong and the band from there
turned into an EP and you know,keep dropping EPs and singles
(04:11):
and start working with otherpeople you know, just once the
ball gets rolling man, you knowyou can't unpop that tempo.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Right, yeah, exactly.
Exactly, yeah, I get the samefeeling with this thing, Like
sometimes I don't want.
I don't want to do a show.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
It's like I don't want to do it.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
But you know you, you push through it because it's
about to get so much better.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
But the thing is, man , sometimes you get discouraged
because of what your idea, orother people's ideas, of success
is, and all that for a whileand then, and then you realize
that you was, you was beingsuccessful the whole time to
yourself.
You know what I'm saying For me,I'm a fan of my own music, so
(04:53):
and that's not like in like twoof my own horn type of way it's
just I want to hear what I'mgoing to say next.
It's like if I was a fan ofJay-Z, I'm waiting for the next
Jay-Z album.
So I'm a fan of Ray P.
And then, like as the fan part,I'm like I want to hear what
I'm going to do, like I'm readyto listen to some new shit.
So eventually I make, I makestuff, and it's just like I make
(05:17):
stuff for me that I like and Iknow that other people would
like it, because it's it's, it's.
I'm never going to have to hitplay and then say, oh well, this
is, I was just trying this, orif you really want to hear how I
sound, and you can go listen tothis.
Now, like all that shit is allthat shit is representing what
it needs to represent.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Okay, yeah, you just just keep it.
Keep it true.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, yeah, because, man, that's the really man.
When you're making this music,you don't know if you'll have
any fans.
You know what I'm saying.
So you're the only fan that youreally have for sure.
I mean, you got to satisfy thatfan first, and then, and then,
once you can satisfy that fan,you can satisfy, you know, other
people.
Right, you got to satisfyyourself first, though,
(06:02):
otherwise that shit is nevergoing to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
You know that's the most important thing is that if
you don't believe this, if, if,if you don't believe it's not
going to happen, if you don'tbelieve it's going to happen,
then why would anybody else?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And it depends on what you, what you want.
You understand some people wantto be rich, some people want to
be famous, some people want toget to a certain skill level,
some people want to.
You know it's different.
You know the average personcan't write a song but he had
put together album and puttogether multiple albums and you
know that's a certain skill manthat motherfuckers kind of
sleep on and underrate.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Right, when did you start start writing?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Man, I was real young , I was a teenager, probably
like middle school and shit LikeI've always done it.
That's why I still do it.
It's almost like a thing that Ido.
You know.
It's like even when amotherfucking retired from
playing basketball, they stillgo out and in the in the
driveway and shoot them jumpersand fuck on you never lose that
jumper.
You know Steph Curry going tobe 80.
He'll shoot a three.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Might not look so pretty, but yeah, he's still
shooting.
Yeah, wow.
So, like 14 years old, youdecided you wanted to be.
This is what you wanted to dowith music.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Well, I mean, you know, it was just like kind of
right now, I didn't 14 years oldman, I wasn't making no
decisions.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You know I was out here, shit.
We was out here thugging anddrinking and fucking off.
You know I wasn't even thinkingabout being alive long enough
to fucking make music.
Oh, wow it was rapping andfreestyling and fucking off.
And you know, I've always, youknow, like if it's a group of us
, I'm always the one that takesup a little fucking past where
it's supposed to go.
(07:46):
I'm playing a little moreserious, or whatever.
So I'm the one who got thenotebooks, I'm starting to write
and I'm starting to figure thisshit out and finding places to
record.
And when really, we was justall freestyling in the hood
while we were fucking wastingtime, you know right, we just
got good at it and gave it fuck.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, I remember going down to like Hamilton
Street on Fridays and Saturdaynights and you just see like a
cipher breakout all this on theroad.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Oh yeah, man, there's a lot of guys, man, a lot of
guys.
Back then, you know, in thescene, the scene is starting to,
you know, it's a reemergence ofthe same now A lot of young
folks.
It's crazy.
I'm like one of the only peoplethat's still active from before
or, you know, getting reactiveI guess.
But all those young people, man, they, you know, sometime the
(08:36):
older artists, you know, knockthe young artists.
Young artists knock the oldartists or whatever older
artists.
But really, man, you can learn,we can learn, man, because I
got young artists.
They teach.
You know what I'm saying, notteach me per say, but you know I
can watch and see what they do.
These motherfuckers arestreaming, making videos for
every song.
You know what I'm saying.
Before I was trying to press upfucking CDs and sell them, you
(08:58):
feel me.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So you know, you got to.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
You got to change the game.
I mean, you got to change up,and that's what I learned from
the first time when I was in.
And then I took a break and Icame back and I said, all right,
let me take this shit seriousand really push this
motherfucking ass, or not.
It's like I'm getting streamsall over the world.
You know what I'm saying, butRay P is in places.
I've never been.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Right, exactly, yeah, it's like social media like
things like Spotify and stufflike that and all these podcast
platforms or music platforms,soundcloud.
They didn't have it back in theday, so it was a lot harder to
get your name out there, likeyour horizons.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
But now it's just like upload a song and you're
here to herd around the worldinstantly, yeah, and it's like
it's on these subscriptionswhere they're already paying $10
a month anyway.
Like, even when we did startgoing digital, it was almost
like file sharing.
You know what I'm saying.
It wasn't.
It wasn't like somewhere wherethey go.
Everybody listens to this musicyou download or whatever.
(09:57):
It was like a file share.
You had to email that shit orclick this link or whatever that
file can go down.
It was hard to keep track of,like how many downloads and shit
you had.
So right, like, man, when I hadan album called Raise the Rarer
, drop one, you know, back thereand it did way better than I
expected it.
Yeah, and trying to keep trackof all those fucking downloads
(10:20):
and all that type of shit, man,it was great.
It was like over 20, 20, 30something thousand downloads,
like way back in 07 or somethinglike that.
It was fucking hard to keeptrack of, Right.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Oh, we got someone telling us 22, 22 jokes.
Thank you for stopping in theshow.
Thank you Love his shows outthere too.
If you guys want to see somekiller ass, he just he has an
outdoor girl that'll knock yoursocks off.
Go watch.
Go watch these talk.
But yeah, 22 jokes, thank youfor.
Thank you for tuning in, sir,but yeah, it's, it's.
(10:57):
It's amazing just like how,like it expanded even those like
music nowadays, like fromgetting your music heard to just
making music as it is right now, like people are just using
their phones, like you can makea beat on your phone, like with
intent.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, it's crazy, that's what I'm saying.
Like, man, you can't blame thetools.
You know what I'm saying?
Can't blame the tools.
It's like even some peopleblame the tools and say, oh,
that it's making it to whereeverybody can do it.
And now I mean, so what?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I'm gonna fucking everybody.
Ben could do it.
I mean it, don't make it towhere everybody can do it.
It makes it to where everybodycan afford to do it Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Because just can you, justbecause it's free or just
because it's affordable, don'tmean you're gonna be good.
Yeah, exactly, it's free to.
It's free to go buy thematerial and build a fucking
house If you know how you do itright.
(11:49):
If not, it's gonna be adoghouse.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Exactly.
You can go on the woods, chopdown some trees, shave it all
down.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Do your own thing.
I mean, like I said shit beforewe was, before we was doing the
string shit, I was out therewalking my dogs printing CDs out
and fucking setting them in themail and doing all that shit,
so keeping track of downloadsand shit.
So you know, if you want to doit, you can do it.
My fuck has been making musicand blowing up and becoming
world success.
This fucking vinyl was beingpressed and shit you know vines
(12:21):
making a comeback too, oh yeahman, it's crazy.
I just gave all my vinyl away.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Oh yeah, vinyl.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
It was a friend of mine, man, close friend of mine.
I gave it to his mom just toget him out, get him out the way
, and she enjoyed himself, ohnice.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Kick it back a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I invited a lot of people shared a lot of shared it
.
Hopefully people pop in askquestions, whatever anybody
that's in there.
Now they got questions.
I'm with it.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, leave a comment Some comments and questions
below.
But I remember my grandfatherhad his Jimi Hendrix.
It was a Jimi Hendrix vinyl.
It was still on the rapping andI was I think it was like 10,
maybe 12 years old and this isback when scratching was like,
was like, was huge.
Everyone wanted to be, wanted tobe one of the scratch.
(13:15):
But we had an old record player.
So I was like all right, cool,you know, unwrapped it, set it
on there, scratched a livinghell out of this, fucking, out
of this vinyl, scratched aliving shit out of it.
He comes home and he sees it,he sees it on the vinyl, on the
record player, and he's like didyou open this?
And I was like, yep, and hegoes, he goes, he just cost me,
(13:35):
he just cost me a bunch of money.
And I was like, oh damn, I'mlike shit, he's gonna look at it
.
So he opens up the recordplayer, looks at the vinyl, he's
like what the fuck?
Like I had scratched so hardthat the needle will like
pressed a line right through thevinyl.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Oh, yeah, yeah, scratch the vinyl up and shit.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Oh no, I scratched right through the vinyl.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Oh, you can see through the motherfucker.
Oh yeah, he was really fuckingoff.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, everyone wanted to be the DJ back then, but
yeah, I got my ass up to thatStill to this day still, to this
day, when I, when I see DJs, djman, I'm still impressed.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I got close friends.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I got close friends that are DJs and I mean, man,
it's just a skill.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, that's an art for work, that's a D instrument
all in itself.
To be honest with you, To dirtinstrument on itself.
It's just amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, it's an important.
It's an important support rowman.
When somebody, when somebodyasked me to do the show, one of
the first things I asked iswho's the DJ?
Okay, that's important.
Anybody about the half melooking like no goddamn fool up
there?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Right, exactly, but yeah, speaking of shows from
being from Saginaw Michigan, doyou go up to that?
Waits buyers on Thursday nights.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, I've been.
I've been two of them.
I think there's been like threeof them.
So yeah, I went up there.
I get in and I get out Check itout.
It's always cool.
You know I mess with my boyastray.
You know I'm saying he's comingout.
You know doing his thing a lot,a lot more lately.
No, I just getting this.
You know saying it's everybodygetting the ball rolling.
(15:24):
You know I'm saying it's coolman, as good, as good to see.
You know I'm saying like youcould get motivation from other
people working.
Other people get motivationfrom seeing you working.
You know I'm saying he's one ofthe guys who came, you know,
just a little before me.
So it's good to seemotherfuckers still active.
Man, it's like I felt like Iwas the one of the only ones
that was still active from inour time zone, right, which is
(15:46):
you know why?
I got an album coming outthat's fully produced by Double
Rs called the last og.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Okay cuz.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I mean, that's just what it is like, even not even
music, musically, but justoverall.
Man, even where I'm from, in myneighborhood man, I've been
living in this one house it'ssame house 30 something years
and I'm the last motherfuckerleft in this whole area that I
know everybody's dead locked upor can't come back, right,
(16:18):
that's just you know.
It was just an appropriatetitle the last og.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah, yep, yeah, sagging on, yeah, mean streets
of Saginaw yeah, I used, I livedthere for a little bit.
I've had, I've had a lot offriends that are, like you said,
either locked up or dead now,yeah, it's crazy.
It's crazy how, like, how pathsturn.
Yeah yeah, it's crazy man.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, because I mean we know none of us ain't in no
great spot.
But man, sometime I see some ofmy people that I was real close
with not I would not changeplaces with their Right.
It's like they still doing this.
They're still doing what we wasdoing when we were 16.
You know, say he'll walk intothe store trying to catch the
store at 2 o'clock, finding adrink, whatever the fuck
(17:03):
bullshit.
No fucking day damn.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, growing hours for our responsibilities.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I gotta pay fucking deals man.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, I think I never did, but yep, yep, going down
wrong the wrong paths, but stillwell, yeah, good, good to see
you coming back and making some,making some music.
I dabbled into your Spotify.
I've been listening to musicpretty much all week and you
have like a very it's a veryMidwest style, like you're
(17:35):
pretty much your storytellingthroughout the, throughout your
whole, throughout the your songs, and I always tell people I
love the story, I love peoplethat story tell in their songs.
Yeah, it always is.
It just brings you in like youget trapped in.
You get pretty much just gettrapped in the moment.
So when you start to write likewhat, what, what takes you to
(17:57):
that mode where you just need,where you just I, I gotta get a
pen and paper and some writing.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, but it's kind of crazy that you said like most
of my music is storytelling,because, man, I hate when I
listen to music and it's likestorytelling.
But yeah, I hate when it's likea story from Point a to hold a
whole story.
You know one whole storysometime.
Oh right, he grew up, he didthis.
He robbed the bank.
(18:22):
You got locked up.
He did something like I hatethat shit.
Oh right but I try to throw like, why don't really try?
It just comes out, natural, man.
It's like when I'm talking, youknow, shit comes out.
I've been around, man, I know alot, I've seen a lot.
I mean, you know, I don't knoweverything, I'm just saying I
experienced a lot of shit, man,so I Ain't never talking for
(18:45):
nothing, nice.
So so if I talk, you know, it'sgonna be some of that
experience, some of that shitcoming out.
So every it's like almost likeI like I said I'm a fan of my
own music.
So after it's done and I'mlistening, I'm like, damn, it's
like small stories allthroughout the music, not like
one whole, not like not like asong is a whole Story, right?
(19:09):
I'm saying it's just bow, bow,little story, bow, oh shit.
Oh you're, there's a bunch ofjust a bunch of game, bunch of
situations, a bunch of you know,I'm saying it's just things
that I see, man.
That's why sometimes I take alittle break, because I got to
live some life, I gotta seewhat's happening, I gotta learn
from other people's mistakes, Igot to see where people fucking
up.
And then I come out and IRecord, not kind of say, man,
(19:32):
you wouldn't be dead if you wasdoing it this way, right.
I'm saying you will be alive bro.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Right, exactly, exactly.
We're gonna get into a videoreal quick.
This is your video.
This is it's rapey in a stray,it's headboard.
But before we do that, can youwant to talk about this a little
bit like what went into makingmaking the video?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Well, yeah, man, um, I, it was cool man.
I don't really I don't reallydo videos too much.
I'm saying I don't really dothese, these podcasts, too much,
like that.
I'm really kind of just, I liketo make music and put it out
and see what people think.
But that's why it's cool, man.
I appreciate you hitting me up,man, cuz I never I never try to
hit people up hey, can I get onthat show?
Hey, can I do this, can I do?
(20:13):
It's always genuine interestwhen somebody comes to me.
That's why, yeah, it's it'shard for me to turn these down,
because it's like what this youknow, just do, interested, and
you got platform source.
It works double.
But so, yeah, I was a, I was athome.
Yeah, straight, hit me up man.
(20:34):
He said you know, I haven'tdone no videos in a while, I
haven't done you know much in awhile, and he's seen that I was
active and he was like man Icould, uh, you know, if you want
to do something that way, I Canget.
You know he can get his ballrolling.
People knows he's, he shootsvideos and he's producing and
everything like that.
Everybody knew that, like downin Detroit and everything.
(20:54):
But you know, you know stray iskind of a.
You know he's been around solong, everybody knows who he is.
I'm saying, you think he'sprobably.
You know you don't want to hitup a string.
So he had to let it be knownthat he was out and willing to,
you know, to work and everything.
So we linked up.
He asked me if I had anything.
(21:14):
I went over there, he played acouple beats and, man, we found
something.
I think he had this, you know,some of it done, and then he
added some while I was there, orsomething like that.
Okay but man, yeah, I showed up,I had a song already complete
and ready to go, we found theright beat to it and everything,
and man, we bang that right out.
(21:35):
Man, and Australia's a bad manas far as like the sound quality
and all that type of stuff.
He knows his shit.
So when he asked me to hit, youknow I always been a you know,
a listener of his music as well.
He's been, you know, we alwayshad a mutual respect for a few
years.
So to be able to go and workwith him was cool and just, you
(21:56):
know I've gotten a verse fromhim on a track before, okay, and
but to actually be in thestudio with him and working, you
know I'm saying to see how heworks and what does he do?
And it's, you know, I'm alwaystrying to soak up the game, so
yeah, we did that.
And then we, you know, we shotthe video and we put it out.
Man, and you know I always likemy videos to be, you know, just
(22:18):
kind of raw.
I don't really want to do toomuch.
I don't want to borrow nobody'snecklace or nothing like that
Right, keep it normal, and shit.
So we did bad, and you knowAustralia's bad man with the
camera and editing andeverything.
It just, it just worked out forboth of us.
Man.
It's like man.
We both, you know, needed thatshit.
But, but I like the video.
(22:40):
Everything came out good, man.
The song is good, theproduction is good, everything
is good.
It's one of the biggest songsthat I've done as far as numbers
since I've come back.
So so yeah, man, it's.
You know it's good.
I Wrote the word, so I standbehind it, you know.
Say that's right.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, stand behind your product.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Definitely definitely .
Speaker 1 (23:00):
That's right, everybody, yeah.
So take a few minutes.
Light up, spark up, roll ofwhatever you guys got to do Let
her rip man enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I'm about to check it out.
I haven't watched it in a while.
I like it too.
There we go.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
So you go.
Here you go.
Here you go, everybody Rapeenastray I produced by a stray
headboard.
Enjoy, I strain, it is beat.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Gotta make a change.
My bitch wanna complain.
See it on the face.
She ain't gotta say a thing.
I'm loving what I said.
I can't stand where I'm land.
I don't want to rob a kill, butI'm just saying, though, I got
a real reason to be laying lowwhen it's kill season.
I never make it known.
Got some feelings in my bonesand they can't be shown.
Only thing good to be noted asI made it home, I know that
(23:51):
quoted, if they loaded todaymobile phones, I've been loaded
with it loaded, I can hold myown blind, folded and alone.
I never gave my zone.
Couple people in the hole usedto hate my soul.
Can you feel it?
I feel it.
The feelings mutual.
I don't see how y'all stillcool with niggas who shoot at
you, but I'm a dude me.
I see you doing you.
I'll ask for ever been a realnigga through and through.
(24:12):
When I go to sleep, I keep itright on the nightstand.
I'ma tell a lie and court raisein my right hand.
When I go to sleep, I keep itright on the headboard.
A lot of people gone and wedon't know why they care for.
When I go to sleep, I keep itright on the nightstand.
I'ma tell a lie and court raisein my right hand.
When I go to sleep, I keep itright on the headboard.
A lot of people gone and wedon't know why they care for and
(24:34):
they ain't coming back.
So why the fuck is y'allstressing for just a couple
checkers that was slipping offthe chessboard.
A man dying Always got the beststory trying to get some credit
in the last of his real glory.
Too many got too many secretsto tell.
I got a few myself, but I'mkeeping them held.
I can stand in shallow water inthe deep in this world.
You was fired by success.
(24:55):
For me, as people who failed, Ican't make the same mistakes as
you motherfuckers.
I can't keep sharing my platewith you.
Blood suckers Gotta stay out ofthe way.
Won't let the law touch us now.
They got hate back in the day.
They used to all of us.
Palm touches don't mean whatthey used to mean, so I give
that to suckers and don'tconfuse the team.
A tight grip for the real.
(25:15):
Only I got a few favors in thestreets that they still owe me.
When I go to sleep, I keep itright on the nightstand.
I'ma tell a lie and court raisein my right hand.
When I go to sleep I keep itright on the headboard.
A lot of people gone and wedon't know why they care for.
When I go to sleep, I keep itright on the nightstand.
I'ma tell a lie and court raise.
In my right hand.
(25:35):
When I go to sleep I keep itright on the headboard a lot of
people gone and we don't knowwhy they care for.
Who gives a fuck?
How you living if they ain'tliving with you?
Learn from other niggas with alife in the prison, get you.
But I'm still out here dealingwith some different issues, only
speaking out to the real.
They know this is official Redand blue rags.
Red and blue rags.
Nine out of ten of us neverknew.
(25:56):
That's nine out of ten of usnever blew back Somebody doing
worse.
I guess we ain't doing bad then.
I ain't front and shit.
I take it on the back end.
Ever try to play me.
Take you out like a trash.
Can Fuckers get their peoplesinvolved?
Now, all of a sudden, policekeep getting calls.
I keep watching all theselittle niggas getting big.
I'm out the way so much theyprobably think I did a bit.
(26:19):
But they understand, cuz all ofus just trying to live deaf,
came to visit my city and took acollege kid.
When I go to sleep, I keep itright on the nightstand.
I'ma tell a lie and court raisein my right hand.
When I go to sleep, I keep itright on the headboard a lot of
people gone and when on the whythey dare.
For when I go to sleep, I keepit right on the nightstand.
I'ma tell a lie and court raisein my right hand.
(26:41):
When I go to sleep, I keep itright on the headboard a lot of
people gone and we don't knowwhy they care for you.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yes, yes, I love that piano.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I love the piano in that song yeah, yeah, man,
that's what I really like, man.
That's man.
When I hear a beat is just likeone little certain thing that I
really like about it, and thenthat's that.
That's all I need.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah, it's, it's a beautiful song.
You, when he does a little,just listen to the beat itself.
It's a beautiful song, and thenhe's add the lyrics onto it.
It's just amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, that's one of the things too, man, I look in,
I look for beats, I like that,that, that beautiful ugly.
You know I'm saying quality,because the lyrics that I'm
gonna spit at the you know I'msaying shit ain't sweet around
here.
You know I'm saying so rightyou put that kind of stuff over
these.
You know I'm saying thesebeautiful beats, sometimes
soulful beats, and shit.
(28:35):
I just like that mix man.
It's like that, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I think that's yeah.
I think that's what most, mostMichigan artists are, are like
kind of known for, like you know, you can, you can see he's
there are Michigan artists.
When there's like I don't wantto say pain, like a little pain
and sadness, like within thebeat and if within the song, you
(28:59):
, you can feel like a littlegritty.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
It's like a little grittiness, just like yeah yeah
that's why I can't I.
That's why I just don't reallyget into me.
Personally, I can't make autohappy, go lucky, real.
You know I can't say, well,let's go make us a party song or
let's go do this, right, it'sjust I just makes.
I make songs that I want tohear.
(29:22):
I don't, I don't really listento that too much.
So I mean, I enjoy it whenother people are listening to it
.
I'm not like, hey, turn thatshit off.
You know, sam, but right, butme personally, when I'm just me,
I don't.
It's not, it's a lot of stuffthat I don't play yeah, but what
, what?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
what kind of stuff do you do like you?
Don't you not listen to?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
what kind of I ain't gonna, I ain't gonna throw
nothing under the bus or nothing, but I listen to all music.
I listen to all genres exceptfor R&B.
I listen to everything.
I like country, I like all thatshit, but I'm not listening to
R&B, like I'm not that fuckingcute.
I can't pull up to the cornerstory.
Grab Rellos banging fucking R&B.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah you get sideways looks if you're banging boys
and men you gotta turn.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
You gotta turn the shit down.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I gotta turn it down.
I don't need to listen to itpeople be looking at you
sideways like what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
yeah yeah, what the fuck?
They don't be being admitted,though?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
that shit is dope, but they don't be admitted
though in front a lot of thatshit is dope.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
You know say like my mom used to listen to a lot of
that shit.
You know, when I'm sittingthere barbecue, I like to listen
to some old soul or shit, youknow.
But uh, yeah, I don't know.
Just you know I ain't reallywith it.
What was your first?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
what was your first hip hop CD, your first rap album
that you bought with your ownmoney?
You can't use mama's can it bethe tape, or is it gotta be a CD
?
Oh no, it can be a tape.
Yeah, I forgot creeping on acome up keep it on, come up,
yeah, bonfire yeah bone.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Bone was a shit like that.
Yeah, yeah.
I heard that shit.
That should change the game forme.
I was like what the fuck I was,like I was like still a kid,
you feel me.
I think that was like 93.
So I was, you know, I was young, yeah.
But I heard that shit and I'mlike man, like that was like the
first music that I wantedmyself.
(31:25):
You know, I'm saying like Ineeded to, I needed to have that
, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
I was the first one I bought with with my own money,
was the Master P ghetto D album.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Okay yes, yeah, I bought that too well, see the
way, the way I was able to getthose.
You know, I lived in theneighborhood by the, by the flea
market man so we go, we go upthere and go buy albums and you
know, go buy the tapes and shit.
But I never really bought themuntil until I heard that bone
there's a harm in.
When I got to the flea marketI'm like I wonder, do they got
that?
(31:59):
You know that was the firsttime I really needed, you know,
a piece of music that I heardand have it for myself.
I play it whenever I want, likeany other time before that it
was just like, yeah, if I hearit, I hear it, if I don't, I
don't know.
I like shit.
But that young that's, that'skind of a sparked up to like.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I got by CD shit yeah , I was a little out.
I remember cassettes.
I remember buying cassettes,but when I was younger I was
only allowed to listen tocountry music because that's
what my grandparents liked andthat was the only thing I was
allowed to listen to countrymusic.
That's it okay.
I remember using those country,those cassettes and putting
(32:40):
tape over the little slots andthen putting my tape deck in
recording hip-hop and rap songsoff the radio with those country
, with those country cassettes.
So yeah, grandparents arepretty much wasting a bunch of
money buying me all thesecountry cassettes, but I'm just
recording over them.
The shit has bought me blanksyeah, just watching some blanks.
(33:00):
Yeah exactly, I would have beena much heavier with some, but
yep, hey, hey, shout out to thegranddad.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, I remember all that man, I remember, yeah, and
then I was.
I was one of the.
I was the dude, you know.
Music used to come out onTuesdays back in the day.
Music dropped on Tuesday.
So every Tuesday I was at, youknow, I was at at the mall or
Best Buy or whatever, you know.
It's like I didn't even knowwhat was coming out, I just knew
it was Tuesday and shit comesout you know, I'm saying so, I'm
(33:29):
, I'm grabbing, you know,whatever I was familiar with and
one thing that I never seenbefore, that was my rule I'm
grabbing everything I know.
I'm grabbing one thing I don'tknow so that was, you know, back
before internet.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Not, I had to put myself on right, yeah, like
going to Sam Goody every onTuesdays.
When your when the albumdropped, sam Goody came a lot
music.
You had a cam lot in thefashion square, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
oh, yeah, yeah, all that shit, man, my used to jump
back in the day before before itbecame a dead end.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
The hangout spot was the mall.
Everyone went to the mall.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, yeah, my sister told me she was going to the
mall the other day.
I said why?
I hope you, I hope you make ithome don't go to the most crime,
most crime happened in the mall.
You take a wrong turn in themall now yeah, our mall here in
(34:28):
Midland is like depleted.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
There's nothing in it .
Speaker 2 (34:31):
We got some good food , we got good food in ours, and
that's it we don't have goodfood in ours, our food courts
really.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I think there's a McDonald's in the Taco Bell,
maybe a Sabro or some, but nowif ours at that?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
yeah, I didn't even know they have what you said in
Miller yeah.
I said I might be a middle endmore often I gotta go get that
nostalgic slice yeah you're likea like a pizza kind of story
I've seen.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I've seen some of your you had like food, like
food reviews on there too and Igrew.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I grew up next to next door a little Caesar's in
7-eleven.
You know I'm saying so, right,man, I've always, I'll always,
fucking pizza man.
So I'm just a quality dude whenit comes to food.
Everything gotta be good,quality, fresh, hot, whatever,
you know right?
So yeah, yeah, yeah, I likethat shit man.
I make my own pizza.
Yeah, I do, I do all kind of.
(35:26):
You know I'm in the food forsure.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
You know I'm saying right, you're like a foodie.
You go on try those those newsecret menus from like
McDonald's and shit now I don'tlike no twist.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
You know I'm saying you supposed to take some
classic and replicate itreplicated and you don't put
your own twist on shit.
Just make it great how it'sbeen great for a hundred years.
Don't go putting sriracha on itand shit it was sriracha on
everything nowadays.
I fucking hate it fuckingbarbecue chicken, bacon, ranch
(35:58):
pizza.
Get the fuck outta here, man.
Give me some pepperoni andcheese it's right, it's
something good just freshmozzarella.
I like pizza and I likebarbecue chicken.
I just don't want barbecuechicken pizza.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I'm good no, that's crazy.
I always get that barbecuechicken pizza or the Phillies or
the Phillies cheese steak pizza.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I'm like it's not sure it's not pizza ain't the
same?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
yeah what do you have going on in the future, future
projects, what you got comingout pretty soon future products.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Man projects, man I'm putting a well my boy, my man,
double-r.
I work real close with him.
He does a lot of my production,man keeps me sound good and
everything, so he's putting thefinal touches on this EP called
risky business okay yeah, I gota think five songs on there and
I got this song.
Where I'm, I gotta get thesefeatures, so I'm just getting it
(36:55):
all polished up so I could sendit out to those guys.
Get them a little time to gettheir verses done and everything
and and then we'll have thatout okay.
So that EP is already done.
Oh nice, and then I got an albumwith double R as well, called
the last OG, or where double Rdoes all the production and
everything.
(37:15):
I'm not eat on that EP as wellRisky business.
And then the album last OG doesall the production on that as
well.
Okay so we have that done.
That's just getting polished upand it's in the chamber.
So, and then from that I hookedup with my man's prophecy.
I don't know if you know aprophecy, but Prophecy is a bad
(37:38):
man.
He's a producer.
He was in the source awards wayback in the day for like
unsigned hype, back when itmeant something.
Okay so, yeah, he's a producer.
He produces for a lot of lot ofguys.
You know a lot of like ransomand shit like that.
So, yeah, he's bad man.
So me and him hooked up and Igot a whole album.
I'm complete with him.
(38:00):
I just got to record it and getit done.
So, yeah, everything for theyear is it's done.
You know, it's like if I, if Irecord right now, it's probably
not gonna come out till 2024.
Okay, I'm saying cuz I goteverything Pretty much lined up,
man.
So if you so, right now it's agood time to tap in, you know,
(38:20):
to to the rapey music.
If you know, if you justjumping on or if you been a
listener or whatever, you Knowme as a fan.
Like I said, it's a good timebecause I got, you know I got
three projects in the in thechamber, yes, coming out, you
know, sam.
So, man, it's a lot to lookforward to.
(38:41):
And then you know I I'm gonnaget a little more comfortable
with these videos and everything.
You know I got a couple.
I got a lot of good people on myteam and they always want to
shoot videos.
You know I'm saying they wantto.
You know, keep me in the loop.
So it's not like I don't havethe resources to do it, it's me
Kind of just being picky andhoping.
You know, damn, I hope thisshit comes out the way I think
(39:02):
it is, but I think the peoplethat I got on my team and
everything now that helps andsupports me, I think they're the
people that can really, youknow, bring this shit how I want
it to be.
You know, sam, so I'm gonna I'mgonna get into the Probably
dropping more videos and shittoo.
So, yeah, I think it's a goodtime and streams are going crazy
(39:24):
.
You know we're being streamedall over.
We got projects in the holsterand and then, you know, since I
got all my shit tight, now I got, now I'm thinking about who
would I like to work with.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
All right you know.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
So I'm hoping you know if there's artists out
there listening or whatever, andand you feel like you know as
far as the music, when you hearmy shit you feel like we related
music.
Wise, hit your boy up now.
You know, I know I'm a regularmotherfucker.
I'll let you boy.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Exactly, yeah, hell, hell, hell.
Yeah.
The collaboration that's what Ilike to see too Collaboration
like like when two people thathave been on my on my show
because it's happened many, Iwant to say many times this
happened a few, but I've hadnumerous people, numerous guests
on my shows and I love it whenthey all of a sudden just
(40:16):
collaborate with each other andthen you just see, like, like,
like, like, beauty happen either.
Podcasting, or music or comedyor anything like.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
That's why it's a good thing to do these, man,
because, like you know, foreverybody it's hard to find
people who are like-minded, liketalented, you know whatever,
making the same type of you knowthe same type of shit you
making.
Nobody's doing what you'redoing, but you know something
that you feel like you cancollab with and mix with you
know.
So it's kind of hard to findthem type of people outside you
(40:52):
feel, but uh, but yeah, yeah,like I said, there's a lot,
there's a lot in the chamber,awesome, awesome.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Well, I can't wait to hear it.
Bro Ray P, out there everyonedoing.
He's doing big things out inSagitton, michigan, so keep your
eye out for this man.
Do you enjoy making albums orjust putting out singles more?
Because I've heard that Somepeople just enjoy putting out
singles and see and having onesong drop at a time and see
(41:21):
where that goes from there, kindof like feeling the audience.
But when you're dropping analbum you're pretty much just
like this is, this is what I'mputting out, and pretty much
like how do you feel?
how do you feel about droppingEPs towards Albums?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
well, see, this is the thing.
Remember how I said I had tolearn from the young folks.
You feel you got to change thegame.
I was always, I'm always, analbum artist.
I'm always trying to puttogether a project.
I always want to press, playand walk away.
You know, say I always want my,my listeners to be able to hit,
play and walk away.
But it's good to put thosesingles out too.
(42:04):
You know I'm saying you want toput those out and basically let
you Let your let your fans andyour listeners know what you're
doing or where you're going,where you're heading, and Just
keep them in tune.
You know, I'm saying because itmight it might take you a year
to make that album for certainpeople Right you know I know
some guys who bang for fivealbums out in a year or a year.
You know that's unusual.
(42:25):
Like I said, I got threeprojects in the in the whole
street, I mean in the chamber.
That's unusual.
Not a lot of people do that.
I don't usually do that.
So, yeah, I forgot what I wasgoing with that.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
But yeah, it's, it's, it's crazy, it's crazy.
But before, before we go,what's your mouth?
Your Mount Rushmore of hip-hopartists.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Man.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Mount Rushmore you talk about like my favorites are
like legit my from MountRushmore I go with.
Mount Rushmore Fuck myfavorites.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yeah, like the legit, you go legit.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
You gotta throw Jay Z on there, like he's like Jay's.
Yeah, like he's On there, forsure, whether you like them or
not, true.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
I was like doing this .
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I always put them on the spot and I was taking.
Yeah, I don't know if you gottathink about it, it's a thing I
don't know if you could throwlike what can we?
Speaker 2 (43:28):
can we just say Dev Jam, what the fuck can?
Speaker 1 (43:31):
I say like that, like the whole.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Who started that shit ?
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Like met the man red man Do the.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Chris no, I'm talking about Russell Simmons and Rick
Rubin and shit.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Okay, was it Russell Simmons.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Started Jeff Jam.
Oh, that type of shit.
Either way, man, they're bothfuckers.
Change the game.
Got the ice cube over there?
Yep, ice cube.
You know, if you want to sayNWA, you can.
You can break that down, icecube.
He was the brain behind that.
That's hard not to put dr Dreon there.
Yes, it's true.
Jay Z, jay Z, ice cube, jz IceCube, dr Dre and fucking, I
(44:17):
don't know.
I'm asking you somebody downsouth.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
For best of you, just to throw about there.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
I don't know man.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
I always like asking that question because everyone
gets stumped at it and you'rejust like man, you gotta think
about it.
Cause there's a lot of greatartists out there, but a Mount
Rushmore only four.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yeah, I can't do that , Like I don't even have.
I used to have favorite rappersand shit.
I don't even have favoriterappers, Just a bunch of
motherfuckers.
I listen to man.
A bunch of people, bunch ofshit, yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
So yeah, like it would be like probably Biggie
Poc, eminem and Nas, that wouldbe.
That'd probably be my four, butthen I'm also leaving out like
a bunch of other people, likeJay-Z, ice Cube, dre, snoop, I
mean, but there's a lot ofcurrent people.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
There's a lot of current people, juice.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
World, you know.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
You got the whole Brazil to count.
You know what I'm saying.
West Side Gun, conway Benny.
Then they got Rome Streets andStowe God and fucking Bully
James, and you know what I'msaying.
Then you got my man, daniel'sson, that I had on that Golden
Key song.
You know what I'm saying.
All the you know what I'msaying.
The Steve Autumn motherfuckingman.
It's just a whole fucking treeof people.
(45:30):
Like, if you get into it, it'sjust like Autumn motherfuckers
making good music and yeah, thatshit's good man.
That's another thing that'sgood about music, man, right now
and this time, like you canfind what you want to hear.
You know what I'm saying.
There's a lot of bad music, butit's good to somebody.
(45:53):
You know what I'm saying.
But you got to find your shityou got to find your community,
find your shit that you fuckwith.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, my Spotify is full of independent artists and
90s hip hop.
Pretty much 90s and early 2000ship hop.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Yeah, man, you got to get into the now hip hop man.
That's a lot of good music outthere now, so I like a little
bit.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
I like Juice World, juice World, future, drake,
obviously.
But yeah, most of it's likeearly hip, early 2000s, late 90s
, crazy, crazy.
But, yeah, I don't want tothink too much more of your time
here, ray.
Thank you for coming through.
If you have any shout outs oryou want to plug your social
(46:42):
media, now's the time to do it,sir.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yeah, yep, just like I said, follow me everywhere.
Ray P music man.
If you got Spotify, follow here, cause, like I said, I got a
lot of music coming out.
So by standing following thatyou automatically, you're
automatically in touch Instagram.
I'm active on Instagram.
I got a TikTok.
I'm trying to fuck with that.
I was talking to that.
(47:05):
You know what I'm saying, butit's cool at the same time.
So I put a lot of stuff onthere, a lot of cooking tool
shit.
I mean they're bullshitting alittle bit, not too much.
I ain't dancing or nothing.
I don't never dance, yeah.
So yeah, follow me everywhere,man.
My Facebook is active.
Everything is active.
We're dropping videos onYouTube.
(47:26):
I had to get a whole newYouTube account, so I only got a
few subscribers.
If you do that, do that.
And yeah, man, I appreciate you, dad For reaching out.
Man, I always seen other peoplegetting out here.
You know what I'm saying.
I always liked the quality ofguests.
When you invited me, I lookeddown here.
I seen a bunch of cool peopleout here, and you know what I'm
(47:47):
saying.
It's a legit good platform.
It's a good thing that you'redoing, man, as independent
artists.
This is some shit that we needyou know what I'm saying.
We don't always have theseplatforms and being able to let
motherfuckers know who we are orwhatnot.
So yeah, man I appreciate youtoo, man, but you guys can
(48:08):
follow me at Rapey Music, man.
I got shit coming out all yearman.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
That's right.
Rapey Music everyone Links.
If you didn't catch those links, there are in the description
below, so go ahead and checkthose out.
Hit that like subscribe button,telephone to telephone and
we'll see you next week.
Look, hold up.
We got next week.
We got Roxanne Luciano comingon.
We had to reschedule the lastweek's episode, so she's coming
(48:33):
back this coming week on July29th, 9 pm Eastern time.
So yeah, Roxanne Luciano comingon next week.
So don't miss that, and that'sit We'll check you guys out.
That's right, we'll check youguys out next week.
Love you guys, stay up, hoosPeace.
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An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.