February 11, 2025 • 33 mins
World-renowned medium Alison Dubois engages in a heartfelt conversation with Talinda Bennington, widow of Chester Bennington, the late frontman of Linkin Park. Talinda shares her intimate journey navigating the complexities of grief while cherishing the beautiful memories of their life together. As Valentine's Day approaches, the discussion illuminates how love transcends even the deepest of heartaches, revealing that such connections remain an integral part of our existence in this life and the next. Through this conversation, we explore the lasting impact of love on our lives, emphasizing the necessity of remembrance and emotional resilience amidst sorrow.
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Welcome to the Dead Life.
Here's world renowned mediumAlison Dubois.
Today on the Dead Life, I wantto talk about love stories.
Every story is different, butall love stories follow us.
They're part of us in thislife and the next.
Today I have a very speciallady here to tell us about her journey
through loss.
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Talinda Bennington is the wifeof Chester Bennington, the frontman
of the famed musical groupLinkin Park.
With Valentine's Day rightaround the corner, many are in full
love mode.
But there are also thoseremembering their own love story.
Fame adds another layer to alove story because it's so public,
yet to them it's very private.
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She's going to share her lovestory with you today and how she
copes after great loss.
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Well, Talinda, welcome to the show.
Thank you for being here.
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Hi.
Thank you for having me.
Oh my gosh.
You know, I'm sure both of ourschedules are just kind of crazy,
but I think yours is actuallya little bit more chaotic than mine.
So with Valentine's Day beingright around the corner, I just thought
this is such an importantepisode to do because as I was saying
to you earlier, a lot ofpeople are looking for their love
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story and many have found itand then others are remembering it
because they've suffered aloss and nothing in their their life
will ever match what they hadwith that person.
And I know there's a lot ofpeople out there that just say, oh,
get out there.
You know, you'll meet anothernice guy or somebody else, you know,
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that you can spend your life with.
But for many, there's one,there's one that leaves that indelible
mark on your heart.
And no amount of people canerase or fill it or even or match
it.
And so Valentine's Day becomessomething different.
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On a side note, do you getthings for your kids on Valentine's
Day?
Do you like to give themlittle treats?
Yeah, I do.
I've always been the mom thatsends them things to school on Valentine's
Day, so especially when mystep kids were younger, I would send
them, like, big bouquets ofstuffed animals or balloons and mainly
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to embarrass the boys because.
Funny, but.
But yeah, I like doing thatkind of stuff.
And then my twins, they'rejust so all about it, so they love
that stuff.
How old are your kids now, ifyou don't mind my asking?
So my son Tyler is 18.
Wow.
And then the twins, they're 13.
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Time flies.
Goes by fast.
It seems like you were justtelling me about taking them to the
movie Coco.
Oh, my gosh.
And you said, you have to get.
You have to see that movie.
And I actually did just rentit and watched it with my husband.
Yeah, that was a movie.
That was the first familymovie we watched after Chester had
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passed.
And I can't help but thinkthat was his way of saying, like,
still here.
Yeah.
So parallels to our life,actually, for an animated.
For a cartoon, really, but ananimated movie.
It was strangely very him,wasn't it?
A little bit dark, but verylight and very love involved.
And so I could see that andwhat a sign.
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That was great because there'snot a lot of Disney flicks that focus
on death, but that was.
That one was exactly.
So how did you and Chester meet?
Because I know he's an Arizonaboy, I know he's from here, and he's
got a lot of fans here, buthow did you two meet?
We met through a mutualfriend, our friend Ryan.
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And yeah, he.
We had had, like, we had runin the same circles for years, but
we never met.
And so, yeah, Ryan was likeone of my closest guy friends.
Gosh, probably for like, seven years.
And I always knew he had,like, his friend was like, this guy
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in a band or whatever, but Ididn't really pay much attention
to it.
And I don't know, I just neverintersected with that part of Ryan's
other friends until I did.
And then that was.
We met and locked eyes, andthen we were together from that moment
on.
Was Ryan an LA friend?
Yeah, yeah, he was an la.
That makes sense to me becausewhen you're in la, they'll say that
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he's in a band, but it'll belike Slash or like Chester Bennington.
You know, he's in a band, heplays a guitar or something, he sings.
I don't know.
So that's not a surprise.
And then you find out thatthey do have gigs, but in la or are
actually iconic, but in la,it's just.
It's such a different animal.
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Yeah.
So did you know it was love atfirst sight or did he have to really
work to get your attention?
No, it's pretty much love atfirst sight.
Yeah, it was pretty much loveat first sight.
And.
And it's.
It's interesting because, youknow, we were younger, like late
20s, and, you know, just kindof naive to a lot.
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Just a lot like, of.
But we were just.
It was just always like, usagainst the world.
And so we really well pairedup like that.
We were just instant friends.
You know, you just have likean easy flow with somebody that you
are connected to, you know,and so it was really fun.
And like, when I met him, Ifelt like I had known him forever.
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Yeah, that's something.
You'll hear people that are inlove say, I can't remember my life
without you when we weren'ttogether talking.
And it just seems strange themthat their life actually occurred
without that person in its stratosphere.
So I completely get that.
Did he write you any lovesongs or anything?
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I mean, I would expect poetryfrom him.
Yeah, he did on his album, theDead by Sunrise album.
There's many songs on therethat are written about us.
Yeah.
And he wrote our Wedding song,which is on that album as well.
So it was really.
Yeah, very sweet.
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I don't think peopleunderstand how the fame aspect to
relationships actually, youknow, changes it.
It's an added pressure when.
It is.
When you're in a relationshipwith somebody famous and then you
become famous adjacent becauseyou're with them, all of a sudden,
people write about you.
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With.
With our relationship, it was always.
We wanted to, like, keep ourkids safe and protected from the
public eye.
So that was kind of.
That was kind of the deal.
Like, if we were out inpublic, you know, and fans approached
him, I just kept walking withthe kids and we'd call each other
up later, like, where'd you go?
I'm like, I'm over here.
Come catch up.
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That's why I had them changeour daughter's names in medium.
Cause they used Allison and Jo Dubois.
But when it came to the girls,I didn't want somebody to abduct
them to see if I could find them.
Right.
Yeah.
So that was a bit of a concernfor me.
So we changed their names, so.
I understand.
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Go ahead.
Oh, it was a.
You have to, like, worry aboutthat stuff.
We actually had a.
A fan.
She's.
She went to prison for this,but she tried to kidnap Tyler when
he was two.
Wow, that's scary.
Yeah.
She got backstage and wentback to the bus and was trying to
enter on the bus and thank Godour bus driver was there and wouldn't
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let her.
Like he had closed the doorsto the cabin or whatever.
And yeah, it was pretty scary.
She.
She was not well, but she hadbeen stalking Chester for pretty
much that whole tour andfollowing every show.
And yeah, she was very delusional.
She thought Tyler was her son.
And so you do have to becareful about that.
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Stalkers are another levelthat people don't really understand
with the whole fame card.
They're like, oh, you're so lucky.
But I didn't have them thatclose to kidnapping my child.
But we did have one thatcalled 40 times a day to our business
line.
And when I lived in la, I hadto take her or I tried to get a restraining
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order against her and thejudge looked a little bored with
the whole case.
And it was Beverly Hills Courtand we played the recordings and
he.
He brought the gavel down.
He said, I'm giving you a fiveyear restraining order.
That was basically some crazy shit.
Yeah.
So.
And I let a friend of mine sl.
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You know Slash.
I'm friends with Slash becauseyou and I have had that conversation
before.
We let him listen to some ofher recordings once.
And he.
Because we were playing alittle game like, who has the worst
stalker?
That's a fun one in la.
And we were playing recordingsback and forth and he's like, all
right, you win.
I was like, yeah.
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So I get the delusion, though.
It's.
It's amazing how peoplefantasize about somebody so much
that it becomes a reality.
It's just a trip.
Yeah, it really is.
So how, with his passing, Imean, were you caught off guard or
was it, in a way something yousaw coming?
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No.
At that time?
No.
Like, had it been a yearearlier, maybe because he was in
a darker place.
But no, when he passed away,it was really very shocking because
we all thought he was doingquite well, you know, And I don't
know, it took a long time toprocess that, like, to.
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To be able to accept, youknow, that I couldn't have done anything,
you know that.
Yeah, it just took a longTime, but.
But, yeah, no, it took us allby surprise.
I was very, very shocked,given what I do.
You know, obviously I'vebrought many people who have passed
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that way through, and there'salways this where they go dark and
then they give it everythingthey've got to be happy and to engage
and plug in.
And sometimes, often I'll seethat they run out of the energy to
be able to try to find joy inthings that make other people happy.
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And they somehow feel numb andthey just can't feel anything.
And they feel as though theirloved ones are going to be better
off without them.
Somehow your life's going tobe easier without them.
And obviously that's not howwe feel, but that's the energy and
thought process that I see gothrough their minds leading up to
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that moment.
But it has nothing to do withhow much they love you or what you
mean to them.
It has more to do with theirown pain and not being able to live
with that void inside of them,that pain that they can't get rid
of.
So I'm really, I'm sorry tohear that.
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It's one of the passingspeople really struggle with because
it was in the control of theperson they love.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, and the kids, how havethey been able to process it?
Because I know there's a lotof parents out there who've lost
a spouse and they have theirown children.
Did you have any methods thatyou were able to bring in for the
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kids that were able to helpthem through the coping?
And I'm sure they're still coping.
It's a lifelong journey thatyou go through.
But was there anything thatstood out to you that helped?
Just having a really goodtherapist for them and keeping them
at their appointments everysingle week, twice a week if needed.
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And yeah, we just keptpictures up all over the house, you
know, talking about him.
We still talk about him tothis day, you know, all the time.
I, you know, anything comesup, I'll be like, oh, this is your
dad's favorite song.
Or this was this, or whatever.
You know, the kids have accesson the computer to all of our videos
and stuff.
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So, yeah, it's pretty.
It's been quite the road.
But I think the key for, like,as a parent, the key for me was having
a therapist that I was reallyable to trust and the consistency.
Keeping them in therapy.
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Yeah.
Whether or not they wanted to go.
I find that stories frommothers or fathers, even the little
details, little moments,memories that you share with them,
is everything to Them andmaybe even giving him a journal to
write down some of thesememories that you're recounting to
them, because they're gonnaforget after a while so that they
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can look back on him when theymiss that person or taking one of
his T shirts and putting apillow in it and tying it off and
putting it on their bed.
They can smell dad, you know,and feel connected there.
I had a blanket made of hisshirts for each of the kids.
That's perfect.
That was good.
Something you had said in.
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In the reading that I had did.
Right.
Like three months after hedied, like before we.
I actually ever met, you hadsaid something about how Chester
saw the girls.
And I have to tell you, Iwon't say what it is, but it's true.
To this day, almost eightyears later, like, it came to fruition,
so it's really interesting.
So I let them listen to thatpart of the recording and.
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Cause it was something youwere saying that their dad was communicating,
like, how they would be.
And that's.
They weren't like that beforeand they're like that now.
And it's just like, oh, my gosh.
It's like.
That's so true.
That's the cool thing about them.
They can see further than wecan and they just sort of report
back like, this is who they'regoing to be.
This is what you can expect.
It's kind of cool, huh?
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Yeah, it's really cool.
It's totally, totally happened.
It's just so interesting.
Yeah.
So they really liked that.
They thought that was cool.
Kind of like a message, you know?
Yeah.
That he sees them and he knowswhere they're going and what they'll
be.
That he's part of them.
And I think that's the mostimportant thing to kids, is to know
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that Dad's along for thejourney and he's not gonna drop off.
He'll be there for all thehard times and my good times, to
see me succeed.
And when I fail to say, get up.
Get your ass up, you know, youcan do this.
I've done harder things.
Come on.
So all of that meanseverything to them.
Your 18 year old.
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Don't be surprised if a tattoocomes back on the arm of that 18
year old for dad.
But you'll have to.
I believe it.
Yeah.
It was just a feeling I had.
I just.
When you said 18, the 18 year old.
I just saw a tattoo on the armand sort of that kid becoming dad,
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like, being his energy.
Yeah.
And also with kids, for youryounger ones especially, because
they're 13, which is a hard age.
Nobody looks back at 13 andgoes, oh, my God, those are my glory
days.
Like, I looked amazing.
So 13, letting them pick out apet, you know, just like that built
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in.
We call them pets, but it'slike straight up pet therapy for
people when they lose someoneis they get attached to that animal.
That animal lets them knowthat dad's there, you know, when
he's in the room.
And it just brings them suchcomfort to have that connection with
something physical and that'sconnected to dad.
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For sure.
For sure.
Yeah.
They all have pets.
Each one of them has.
Well, two of them have twocats, and one of them has a dog and
a cat.
Oh, nice.
So you've got a full household.
Yeah.
So whether or not he's in theroom is always in fashion at your
house.
Yeah.
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You always know that.
That's awesome.
Have you.
Other than Coco, because Iknow that resonated with you that
he got us here.
You know, he.
He wanted us to know that he'snot gone and to celebrate his life
and that we're still connected.
Have you had any otherspiritual experiences since he died?
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Have you dreamt about him orfelt him around you?
Yeah, of course.
Of course.
Yeah, I've definitely haddreams, you know, in the first couple
of years, the dreams at timeswere, like, so intense.
I could actually, like, feelhis touch.
And, yeah, it, like, it was.
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That was very emotional to getthrough, but now more, it's like.
It's real light and positive.
It's.
It's, you know, song on theradio or just the feeling, you know,
just like, just that feelingthat he's around.
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But, yeah, again, I feel likeI'm more.
I mean, for today, you know,I'm more in a state of acceptance.
I've worked through a lot ofmy trauma surrounding his death,
and the pain kind of movedinto gratitude.
Yeah, like, gratitude for, youknow, the.
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The family he left me.
You know, the.
The.
The life that we had together,the memories, and then that moved
into, you know, hope for thefuture of, like, just having, you
know, beautiful days ahead andenjoying things.
You know, you had mentionedearlier in the beginning of the podcast
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about, you know, having thatone and that one person and.
And I.
I think that's true.
But I also think that, like,in love, like, for me, I feel like
losing Chester taught me notlosing him, having him in my life
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taught me what that deep lovefeels like.
What that.
That it feels like to be lovedlike that and to be whole.
And I know that That I canhave that again, you know, and it
won't be the same, of course,because it's not the same person.
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And.
But you can.
You.
You're.
It's like having more kids.
You know, your heart opens ina different way.
You don't.
You know, you.
You love them deeply andstuff, but it's a different person.
So I think you also lovethings about that new person that
comes in that wouldn't havemattered to you had you not been
with the first person.
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So, for instance, if you fallin love with somebody who understands
your pain because they've beenthrough it.
Exactly.
And you wouldn't have had thatpain if you hadn't had that first
love to them.
So.
No, I get that.
And I think the thing that Ilove about watching the entirety
of people's lives, because Iread people of all ages, you know,
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and I get to bring peoplethrough, and there's like, they're
at, like, It's World War IIand they're at the USO and they're
dancing, and I see their hairand the lipstick, and I hear the
music, and I see the food andthe drinks, and I'm like, this is
amazing.
This is your heaven.
This is so great.
So I get to see that gamut of it.
And so those moments that youhad with Chester, him writing you
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a song, you know, listening toit, maybe sharing a little champagne
or a glass of wine with themand celebrating an engagement or
getting married, those are allversions of your heaven that you're
going to relive on the otherside when you die, as if they're
happening for the first time.
So those moments stay with you.
They're part of you.
And you.
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When you fell in love withhim, that was young love.
That's like notebook love.
That's like hot love.
That's passionate love.
That's excitement.
And then I think as we getolder, it's not that you can't feel
butterflies and so sort ofthat excitement or sensation, but
I don't know that it's at thesame level, the same magnitude as
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being young and sort ofgrowing up together, you know, and
going through it together.
So I think that's why peoplereflect on young love as being so
special and romantic.
And so, yeah, yeah, it teaches you.
Things, you know, it reallyteaches you.
Teaches you a lot.
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And sadly, like, my young love didn't.
Wasn't able to develop into,like, the forever mature love, you
know, but that's okay.
Like, I'm.
I'm in a beautifulrelationship now with A love who.
Pretty sure he's going to bethe rest of my life, you know, and
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the way I love him is so deep,and it's.
It's.
It's solid and.
And.
But I feel that I couldn'thave appreciated that in him and
been where I'm at if I hadn'tknown the love I had.
Had before.
Right.
So it's just kind of like abeautiful segue into the next part
of my life, you know?
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Yeah.
I'm sure Chester had a littlehand in bringing that person into
your life, because I seepatterns of that in readings where
they'll say, I'll bring yousomeone I would have liked.
That's another thing aboutthat first reading.
You actually said that, and sodid he.
In that first reading.
I was listening to that, andyou actually named the country where
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he's from.
And you.
Because you were saying thatI, like, I need to move.
Yeah.
And I was, like, thinking, oh,it's because we were moving houses,
and you said the specificcountry to move to.
And listening to it now, I waslike, what the heck?
Like, of all the places.
Because it's not like a.
It's not like England or something.
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It's like a common country.
Yeah.
Name is one random country.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, gosh, okay.
I know I'm on the right path.
I love hearing that, though.
I love.
I love people recounting backto me because I always say I'm just
a secretary.
You know, I take notes, I passthem on.
You know, I'm a glorified secretary.
But I do love hearing theinformation and how it evolves in
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people's lives and.
Oh, yeah, you were spot on.
I'm happy for you.
And Chester would want that.
You know, he would want thatperson to be there and be able to
put his arm around you so thatyou're not alone and you're not crying
and.
And that you're not suffering.
So I have no doubt he broughthim into your life because Chester
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would have quite a bit ofwillpower on the other side.
I have no doubt.
No doubt.
So you and your family, youobviously are.
You have to evolve through time.
I think it's harder on the mombecause you have to take care of
the kids and explain it to thekids over and over and over and be
their reassurance.
So I think moms deserve, like,a big round of applause on the being
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strong in the being strongcategory, because you're suffering
alongside of them, but youdon't have time for yourself as often
because you're focused onworrying about them.
And so I, for you, did youhave any getaways?
Did you find any escapes foryour own coping?
Yeah, I mean, I was in therapy myself.
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But I have to say, I really,for the better part of the last seven
years, I really focused on thekids and I've taken care of myself
enough to, like, you know, beokay for them.
Yeah.
But it was just, just recentlyI was able to really dive into some
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of my own self care, which wasreally nice.
I did a lot of.
A lot of.
A lot of therapy.
A lot of different modalities,energy work, a bunch of stuff to
just kind of feel more centered.
And it, it was good.
And it was really nice to beable to, like, sit down with my kids
and say, like, look, I need to.
To take a few weeks and, andfocus on myself and go, you know,
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go to therapy and do this.
And they were like, okay,yeah, you need to, you know, like,
we're here.
They're at the right age too.
They're like, so, yeah, 18 and 13.
Whatever, mom, go ahead.
Can I go to Matt's house forthe summer?
That'd be great.
Because that's theiropportunity to ask for a favor.
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Back when you put a big sowith the moments that you'll have
on the other side withChester, but also what helps you
through your grief.
I notice a lot of people willhave one or two really grounding
moments that they like to lookback on, whether it's their wedding
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or when their baby's born, orthe first time they said I love you,
or just making each otherlaugh, like pillow talk, you know,
in the morning.
Is there.
Is there something that youlook back on with him and say, you
know, like, get into thatmoment and feel more centered and
zen in that moment, in thathe's here, you know, and that.
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That love doesn't die.
Yeah.
It's more around, like, occasions.
Right.
So, like when the girls have abirthday or Tyler has a birthday
or, you know, Tyler graduatedhigh school, things like that.
I will give myself, you know,like a half an hour or so just to
sit and be with memories.
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And so there's not onespecific memory.
It's just whatever comes to me.
It's almost like I meditate inthat moment.
Yeah.
And just allow whatever tocome to me.
To come to me.
And whether it's sadness or,you know, just fond memories, like,
fill me with happiness and joy.
Just whatever comes, I try tobe open to it because just let it,
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like, move through me.
So then during the moment,like the birthday, you know, or the,
you know, whatever it is thatwe're doing in the moment.
I could be present with, withthe kids and present with myself
and enjoy the moment for thatand not be, you know, not have like
a emotional bomb come andannihilate me out of nowhere.
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Yeah.
When this.
You have the 18 year old, whenthere's a graduation or a wedding,
are you going to bringsomething of Chester's and like.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So Alyssa, she's my childhoodbest friend's daughter, but I helped
to raise her since I was 17.
So she got.
And Chester and I alwayscalled her our oldest.
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We had custody of her for along time, but she's 29 now.
But she got married a littleover a year ago and she had, you
know, full, like, seat for himand she honored him in her wedding.
And she honored him.
Her father made a speech andlike, honored him that way.
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So he was very much there and honored.
That's beautiful.
And we do they love.
I know they sound kind ofegotistical maybe in a little way.
I don't think it's ego.
I think it's more that itmakes them feel good to know that
they left a lasting impressionon so many people.
When they're honored in someway, they're always there, front
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center.
It's just so cool to see themenjoy being in that moment with the
people.
So.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's.
He's very much part of our,our lives and our conversation.
Well, I'm sure a lot of hisfans feel inspired by the music as
well.
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Yeah, of course.
Do they.
Do they always reach out toyou and say, I played a song in our
wedding or at, you know.
Yeah, I've actually.
Yeah, I mean, I've been offsocial media for a while, but when
I was on it for sure, all thetime getting really.
We got a lot of fan mail for along time after he died.
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And that was really nice, youknow, to see memorials and just,
you know, just see people'sletters and writing expressing how
they felt.
Had really beautiful energy to it.
We kept a lot of that.
He touched a lot of lives.
I'm sure.
You don't even know how manylives you touch.
I still hear from people about Medium.
They're like, it saved my lifeor thank you for that.
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I don't feel like I don't fitin anymore.
I know what I'm doing isnormal, it's human, it's good.
And so I think being a publicfigure is an absolutely Amazing platform
to be able to touch people's lives.
And I'm sure he's got manytattoos of Linkin park all over people
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walking around the world.
No doubt.
No doubt.
And I'm sure he would thankyou for making all the years that
he was with you the best timeof his life and for giving him all
of those versions of heavenfor him to live now until he sees
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you and the kids and whoeverelse he loves again.
Because they always comethrough, and people will say, why
do they stay?
Why are they here?
And I said, because theirheaven isn't complete, so they wait
for us, because without us,their heaven just isn't a full picture.
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And that's why they stay, andthat's why they buffer us and help
us through our life, becausethey love us, but.
And they want us to evolve andexperience all the things we're supposed
to.
But in the end, they can'tfeel settled, as though it's a utopia
that they're in without us.
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And that's such a big thingthat I don't think the living always
grasp that you have so muchpower in how you affect other people's
lives that somebody wouldactually wait for you to cross because
they're not whole without you.
So I just thought that waskind of beautiful.
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So.
Well, is there a place thatpeople can find you?
You said you're off socialmedia, so it sounds like not so much.
Okay, okay.
Leave her alone, people.
You can come find me, bother me.
I'm there, so.
Well, thank you so much forsharing your love story with us,
and happy Valentine's Day.
I hope you do something reallyfun and make some new memories and
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safe travels.
I know you're leaving abroador out of the country today, so safe
travels there.
Thank you.
You're so welcome.
And happy Valentine's Day tomy husband, Joe.
Happy Valentine's Day to allof you.
Remember, you're creating yourversions of heaven right here, right
now.
So don't hold back.
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Take a chance on love.
It's worth the risk.
Thank you to my listeners fortuning in.
Tune in next week for a freshepisode of the Dead Life.
I'm Allison Dubois.
This is the Dead Life, and toall of my believers out there, don't
stop believing.
Join us next week on the Dead Life.
And don't forget to subscribenow to get notified of every new
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episode.
Welcome to the Dead Life.
Here's world renowned mediumAlison Dubois.
Today on the Dead Life, I wantto talk about love stories.
Every story is different, butall love stories follow us.
They're part of us in thislife and the next.
Today I have a very speciallady here to tell us about her journey
through loss.
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Talinda Bennington is the wifeof Chester Bennington, the frontman
of the famed musical groupLinkin Park.
With Valentine's Day rightaround the corner, many are in full
love mode.
But there are also thoseremembering their own love story.
Fame adds another layer to alove story because it's so public,
yet to them it's very private.
(00:45):
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Well, Talinda, welcome to the show.
Thank you for being here.
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Hi.
Thank you for having me.
Oh my gosh.
You know, I'm sure both of ourschedules are just kind of crazy,
but I think yours is actuallya little bit more chaotic than mine.
So with Valentine's Day beingright around the corner, I just thought
this is such an importantepisode to do because as I was saying
to you earlier, a lot ofpeople are looking for their love
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story and many have found itand then others are remembering it
because they've suffered aloss and nothing in their their life
will ever match what they hadwith that person.
And I know there's a lot ofpeople out there that just say, oh,
get out there.
You know, you'll meet anothernice guy or somebody else, you know,
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that you can spend your life with.
But for many, there's one,there's one that leaves that indelible
mark on your heart.
And no amount of people canerase or fill it or even or match
it.
And so Valentine's Day becomessomething different.
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On a side note, do you getthings for your kids on Valentine's
Day?
Do you like to give themlittle treats?
Yeah, I do.
I've always been the mom thatsends them things to school on Valentine's
Day, so especially when mystep kids were younger, I would send
them, like, big bouquets ofstuffed animals or balloons and mainly
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to embarrass the boys because.
Funny, but.
But yeah, I like doing thatkind of stuff.
And then my twins, they'rejust so all about it, so they love
that stuff.
How old are your kids now, ifyou don't mind my asking?
So my son Tyler is 18.
Wow.
And then the twins, they're 13.
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Time flies.
Goes by fast.
It seems like you were justtelling me about taking them to the
movie Coco.
Oh, my gosh.
And you said, you have to get.
You have to see that movie.
And I actually did just rentit and watched it with my husband.
Yeah, that was a movie.
That was the first familymovie we watched after Chester had
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passed.
And I can't help but thinkthat was his way of saying, like,
still here.
Yeah.
So parallels to our life,actually, for an animated.
For a cartoon, really, but ananimated movie.
It was strangely very him,wasn't it?
A little bit dark, but verylight and very love involved.
And so I could see that andwhat a sign.
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That was great because there'snot a lot of Disney flicks that focus
on death, but that was.
That one was exactly.
So how did you and Chester meet?
Because I know he's an Arizonaboy, I know he's from here, and he's
got a lot of fans here, buthow did you two meet?
We met through a mutualfriend, our friend Ryan.
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And yeah, he.
We had had, like, we had runin the same circles for years, but
we never met.
And so, yeah, Ryan was likeone of my closest guy friends.
Gosh, probably for like, seven years.
And I always knew he had,like, his friend was like, this guy
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in a band or whatever, but Ididn't really pay much attention
to it.
And I don't know, I just neverintersected with that part of Ryan's
other friends until I did.
And then that was.
We met and locked eyes, andthen we were together from that moment
on.
Was Ryan an LA friend?
Yeah, yeah, he was an la.
That makes sense to me becausewhen you're in la, they'll say that
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he's in a band, but it'll belike Slash or like Chester Bennington.
You know, he's in a band, heplays a guitar or something, he sings.
I don't know.
So that's not a surprise.
And then you find out thatthey do have gigs, but in la or are
actually iconic, but in la,it's just.
It's such a different animal.
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Yeah.
So did you know it was love atfirst sight or did he have to really
work to get your attention?
No, it's pretty much love atfirst sight.
Yeah, it was pretty much loveat first sight.
And.
And it's.
It's interesting because, youknow, we were younger, like late
20s, and, you know, just kindof naive to a lot.
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Just a lot like, of.
But we were just.
It was just always like, usagainst the world.
And so we really well pairedup like that.
We were just instant friends.
You know, you just have likean easy flow with somebody that you
are connected to, you know,and so it was really fun.
And like, when I met him, Ifelt like I had known him forever.
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Yeah, that's something.
You'll hear people that are inlove say, I can't remember my life
without you when we weren'ttogether talking.
And it just seems strange themthat their life actually occurred
without that person in its stratosphere.
So I completely get that.
Did he write you any lovesongs or anything?
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I mean, I would expect poetryfrom him.
Yeah, he did on his album, theDead by Sunrise album.
There's many songs on therethat are written about us.
Yeah.
And he wrote our Wedding song,which is on that album as well.
So it was really.
Yeah, very sweet.
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I don't think peopleunderstand how the fame aspect to
relationships actually, youknow, changes it.
It's an added pressure when.
It is.
When you're in a relationshipwith somebody famous and then you
become famous adjacent becauseyou're with them, all of a sudden,
people write about you.
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With.
With our relationship, it was always.
We wanted to, like, keep ourkids safe and protected from the
public eye.
So that was kind of.
That was kind of the deal.
Like, if we were out inpublic, you know, and fans approached
him, I just kept walking withthe kids and we'd call each other
up later, like, where'd you go?
I'm like, I'm over here.
Come catch up.
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That's why I had them changeour daughter's names in medium.
Cause they used Allison and Jo Dubois.
But when it came to the girls,I didn't want somebody to abduct
them to see if I could find them.
Right.
Yeah.
So that was a bit of a concernfor me.
So we changed their names, so.
I understand.
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Go ahead.
Oh, it was a.
You have to, like, worry aboutthat stuff.
We actually had a.
A fan.
She's.
She went to prison for this,but she tried to kidnap Tyler when
he was two.
Wow, that's scary.
Yeah.
She got backstage and wentback to the bus and was trying to
enter on the bus and thank Godour bus driver was there and wouldn't
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let her.
Like he had closed the doorsto the cabin or whatever.
And yeah, it was pretty scary.
She.
She was not well, but she hadbeen stalking Chester for pretty
much that whole tour andfollowing every show.
And yeah, she was very delusional.
She thought Tyler was her son.
And so you do have to becareful about that.
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Stalkers are another levelthat people don't really understand
with the whole fame card.
They're like, oh, you're so lucky.
But I didn't have them thatclose to kidnapping my child.
But we did have one thatcalled 40 times a day to our business
line.
And when I lived in la, I hadto take her or I tried to get a restraining
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order against her and thejudge looked a little bored with
the whole case.
And it was Beverly Hills Courtand we played the recordings and
he.
He brought the gavel down.
He said, I'm giving you a fiveyear restraining order.
That was basically some crazy shit.
Yeah.
So.
And I let a friend of mine sl.
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You know Slash.
I'm friends with Slash becauseyou and I have had that conversation
before.
We let him listen to some ofher recordings once.
And he.
Because we were playing alittle game like, who has the worst
stalker?
That's a fun one in la.
And we were playing recordingsback and forth and he's like, all
right, you win.
I was like, yeah.
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So I get the delusion, though.
It's.
It's amazing how peoplefantasize about somebody so much
that it becomes a reality.
It's just a trip.
Yeah, it really is.
So how, with his passing, Imean, were you caught off guard or
was it, in a way something yousaw coming?
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No.
At that time?
No.
Like, had it been a yearearlier, maybe because he was in
a darker place.
But no, when he passed away,it was really very shocking because
we all thought he was doingquite well, you know, And I don't
know, it took a long time toprocess that, like, to.
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To be able to accept, youknow, that I couldn't have done anything,
you know that.
Yeah, it just took a longTime, but.
But, yeah, no, it took us allby surprise.
I was very, very shocked,given what I do.
You know, obviously I'vebrought many people who have passed
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that way through, and there'salways this where they go dark and
then they give it everythingthey've got to be happy and to engage
and plug in.
And sometimes, often I'll seethat they run out of the energy to
be able to try to find joy inthings that make other people happy.
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And they somehow feel numb andthey just can't feel anything.
And they feel as though theirloved ones are going to be better
off without them.
Somehow your life's going tobe easier without them.
And obviously that's not howwe feel, but that's the energy and
thought process that I see gothrough their minds leading up to
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that moment.
But it has nothing to do withhow much they love you or what you
mean to them.
It has more to do with theirown pain and not being able to live
with that void inside of them,that pain that they can't get rid
of.
So I'm really, I'm sorry tohear that.
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It's one of the passingspeople really struggle with because
it was in the control of theperson they love.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, and the kids, how havethey been able to process it?
Because I know there's a lotof parents out there who've lost
a spouse and they have theirown children.
Did you have any methods thatyou were able to bring in for the
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kids that were able to helpthem through the coping?
And I'm sure they're still coping.
It's a lifelong journey thatyou go through.
But was there anything thatstood out to you that helped?
Just having a really goodtherapist for them and keeping them
at their appointments everysingle week, twice a week if needed.
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And yeah, we just keptpictures up all over the house, you
know, talking about him.
We still talk about him tothis day, you know, all the time.
I, you know, anything comesup, I'll be like, oh, this is your
dad's favorite song.
Or this was this, or whatever.
You know, the kids have accesson the computer to all of our videos
and stuff.
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So, yeah, it's pretty.
It's been quite the road.
But I think the key for, like,as a parent, the key for me was having
a therapist that I was reallyable to trust and the consistency.
Keeping them in therapy.
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Yeah.
Whether or not they wanted to go.
I find that stories frommothers or fathers, even the little
details, little moments,memories that you share with them,
is everything to Them andmaybe even giving him a journal to
write down some of thesememories that you're recounting to
them, because they're gonnaforget after a while so that they
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can look back on him when theymiss that person or taking one of
his T shirts and putting apillow in it and tying it off and
putting it on their bed.
They can smell dad, you know,and feel connected there.
I had a blanket made of hisshirts for each of the kids.
That's perfect.
That was good.
Something you had said in.
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In the reading that I had did.
Right.
Like three months after hedied, like before we.
I actually ever met, you hadsaid something about how Chester
saw the girls.
And I have to tell you, Iwon't say what it is, but it's true.
To this day, almost eightyears later, like, it came to fruition,
so it's really interesting.
So I let them listen to thatpart of the recording and.
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Cause it was something youwere saying that their dad was communicating,
like, how they would be.
And that's.
They weren't like that beforeand they're like that now.
And it's just like, oh, my gosh.
It's like.
That's so true.
That's the cool thing about them.
They can see further than wecan and they just sort of report
back like, this is who they'regoing to be.
This is what you can expect.
It's kind of cool, huh?
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Yeah, it's really cool.
It's totally, totally happened.
It's just so interesting.
Yeah.
So they really liked that.
They thought that was cool.
Kind of like a message, you know?
Yeah.
That he sees them and he knowswhere they're going and what they'll
be.
That he's part of them.
And I think that's the mostimportant thing to kids, is to know
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that Dad's along for thejourney and he's not gonna drop off.
He'll be there for all thehard times and my good times, to
see me succeed.
And when I fail to say, get up.
Get your ass up, you know, youcan do this.
I've done harder things.
Come on.
So all of that meanseverything to them.
Your 18 year old.
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Don't be surprised if a tattoocomes back on the arm of that 18
year old for dad.
But you'll have to.
I believe it.
Yeah.
It was just a feeling I had.
I just.
When you said 18, the 18 year old.
I just saw a tattoo on the armand sort of that kid becoming dad,
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like, being his energy.
Yeah.
And also with kids, for youryounger ones especially, because
they're 13, which is a hard age.
Nobody looks back at 13 andgoes, oh, my God, those are my glory
days.
Like, I looked amazing.
So 13, letting them pick out apet, you know, just like that built
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in.
We call them pets, but it'slike straight up pet therapy for
people when they lose someoneis they get attached to that animal.
That animal lets them knowthat dad's there, you know, when
he's in the room.
And it just brings them suchcomfort to have that connection with
something physical and that'sconnected to dad.
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For sure.
For sure.
Yeah.
They all have pets.
Each one of them has.
Well, two of them have twocats, and one of them has a dog and
a cat.
Oh, nice.
So you've got a full household.
Yeah.
So whether or not he's in theroom is always in fashion at your
house.
Yeah.
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You always know that.
That's awesome.
Have you.
Other than Coco, because Iknow that resonated with you that
he got us here.
You know, he.
He wanted us to know that he'snot gone and to celebrate his life
and that we're still connected.
Have you had any otherspiritual experiences since he died?
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Have you dreamt about him orfelt him around you?
Yeah, of course.
Of course.
Yeah, I've definitely haddreams, you know, in the first couple
of years, the dreams at timeswere, like, so intense.
I could actually, like, feelhis touch.
And, yeah, it, like, it was.
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That was very emotional to getthrough, but now more, it's like.
It's real light and positive.
It's.
It's, you know, song on theradio or just the feeling, you know,
just like, just that feelingthat he's around.
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But, yeah, again, I feel likeI'm more.
I mean, for today, you know,I'm more in a state of acceptance.
I've worked through a lot ofmy trauma surrounding his death,
and the pain kind of movedinto gratitude.
Yeah, like, gratitude for, youknow, the.
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The family he left me.
You know, the.
The.
The life that we had together,the memories, and then that moved
into, you know, hope for thefuture of, like, just having, you
know, beautiful days ahead andenjoying things.
You know, you had mentionedearlier in the beginning of the podcast
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about, you know, having thatone and that one person and.
And I.
I think that's true.
But I also think that, like,in love, like, for me, I feel like
losing Chester taught me notlosing him, having him in my life
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taught me what that deep lovefeels like.
What that.
That it feels like to be lovedlike that and to be whole.
And I know that That I canhave that again, you know, and it
won't be the same, of course,because it's not the same person.
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And.
But you can.
You.
You're.
It's like having more kids.
You know, your heart opens ina different way.
You don't.
You know, you.
You love them deeply andstuff, but it's a different person.
So I think you also lovethings about that new person that
comes in that wouldn't havemattered to you had you not been
with the first person.
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So, for instance, if you fallin love with somebody who understands
your pain because they've beenthrough it.
Exactly.
And you wouldn't have had thatpain if you hadn't had that first
love to them.
So.
No, I get that.
And I think the thing that Ilove about watching the entirety
of people's lives, because Iread people of all ages, you know,
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and I get to bring peoplethrough, and there's like, they're
at, like, It's World War IIand they're at the USO and they're
dancing, and I see their hairand the lipstick, and I hear the
music, and I see the food andthe drinks, and I'm like, this is
amazing.
This is your heaven.
This is so great.
So I get to see that gamut of it.
And so those moments that youhad with Chester, him writing you
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a song, you know, listening toit, maybe sharing a little champagne
or a glass of wine with themand celebrating an engagement or
getting married, those are allversions of your heaven that you're
going to relive on the otherside when you die, as if they're
happening for the first time.
So those moments stay with you.
They're part of you.
And you.
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When you fell in love withhim, that was young love.
That's like notebook love.
That's like hot love.
That's passionate love.
That's excitement.
And then I think as we getolder, it's not that you can't feel
butterflies and so sort ofthat excitement or sensation, but
I don't know that it's at thesame level, the same magnitude as
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being young and sort ofgrowing up together, you know, and
going through it together.
So I think that's why peoplereflect on young love as being so
special and romantic.
And so, yeah, yeah, it teaches you.
Things, you know, it reallyteaches you.
Teaches you a lot.
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And sadly, like, my young love didn't.
Wasn't able to develop into,like, the forever mature love, you
know, but that's okay.
Like, I'm.
I'm in a beautifulrelationship now with A love who.
Pretty sure he's going to bethe rest of my life, you know, and
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the way I love him is so deep,and it's.
It's.
It's solid and.
And.
But I feel that I couldn'thave appreciated that in him and
been where I'm at if I hadn'tknown the love I had.
Had before.
Right.
So it's just kind of like abeautiful segue into the next part
of my life, you know?
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Yeah.
I'm sure Chester had a littlehand in bringing that person into
your life, because I seepatterns of that in readings where
they'll say, I'll bring yousomeone I would have liked.
That's another thing aboutthat first reading.
You actually said that, and sodid he.
In that first reading.
I was listening to that, andyou actually named the country where
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he's from.
And you.
Because you were saying thatI, like, I need to move.
Yeah.
And I was, like, thinking, oh,it's because we were moving houses,
and you said the specificcountry to move to.
And listening to it now, I waslike, what the heck?
Like, of all the places.
Because it's not like a.
It's not like England or something.
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It's like a common country.
Yeah.
Name is one random country.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, gosh, okay.
I know I'm on the right path.
I love hearing that, though.
I love.
I love people recounting backto me because I always say I'm just
a secretary.
You know, I take notes, I passthem on.
You know, I'm a glorified secretary.
But I do love hearing theinformation and how it evolves in
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people's lives and.
Oh, yeah, you were spot on.
I'm happy for you.
And Chester would want that.
You know, he would want thatperson to be there and be able to
put his arm around you so thatyou're not alone and you're not crying
and.
And that you're not suffering.
So I have no doubt he broughthim into your life because Chester
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would have quite a bit ofwillpower on the other side.
I have no doubt.
No doubt.
So you and your family, youobviously are.
You have to evolve through time.
I think it's harder on the mombecause you have to take care of
the kids and explain it to thekids over and over and over and be
their reassurance.
So I think moms deserve, like,a big round of applause on the being
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strong in the being strongcategory, because you're suffering
alongside of them, but youdon't have time for yourself as often
because you're focused onworrying about them.
And so I, for you, did youhave any getaways?
Did you find any escapes foryour own coping?
Yeah, I mean, I was in therapy myself.
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But I have to say, I really,for the better part of the last seven
years, I really focused on thekids and I've taken care of myself
enough to, like, you know, beokay for them.
Yeah.
But it was just, just recentlyI was able to really dive into some
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of my own self care, which wasreally nice.
I did a lot of.
A lot of.
A lot of therapy.
A lot of different modalities,energy work, a bunch of stuff to
just kind of feel more centered.
And it, it was good.
And it was really nice to beable to, like, sit down with my kids
and say, like, look, I need to.
To take a few weeks and, andfocus on myself and go, you know,
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go to therapy and do this.
And they were like, okay,yeah, you need to, you know, like,
we're here.
They're at the right age too.
They're like, so, yeah, 18 and 13.
Whatever, mom, go ahead.
Can I go to Matt's house forthe summer?
That'd be great.
Because that's theiropportunity to ask for a favor.
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Back when you put a big sowith the moments that you'll have
on the other side withChester, but also what helps you
through your grief.
I notice a lot of people willhave one or two really grounding
moments that they like to lookback on, whether it's their wedding
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or when their baby's born, orthe first time they said I love you,
or just making each otherlaugh, like pillow talk, you know,
in the morning.
Is there.
Is there something that youlook back on with him and say, you
know, like, get into thatmoment and feel more centered and
zen in that moment, in thathe's here, you know, and that.
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That love doesn't die.
Yeah.
It's more around, like, occasions.
Right.
So, like when the girls have abirthday or Tyler has a birthday
or, you know, Tyler graduatedhigh school, things like that.
I will give myself, you know,like a half an hour or so just to
sit and be with memories.
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And so there's not onespecific memory.
It's just whatever comes to me.
It's almost like I meditate inthat moment.
Yeah.
And just allow whatever tocome to me.
To come to me.
And whether it's sadness or,you know, just fond memories, like,
fill me with happiness and joy.
Just whatever comes, I try tobe open to it because just let it,
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like, move through me.
So then during the moment,like the birthday, you know, or the,
you know, whatever it is thatwe're doing in the moment.
I could be present with, withthe kids and present with myself
and enjoy the moment for thatand not be, you know, not have like
a emotional bomb come andannihilate me out of nowhere.
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Yeah.
When this.
You have the 18 year old, whenthere's a graduation or a wedding,
are you going to bringsomething of Chester's and like.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So Alyssa, she's my childhoodbest friend's daughter, but I helped
to raise her since I was 17.
So she got.
And Chester and I alwayscalled her our oldest.
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We had custody of her for along time, but she's 29 now.
But she got married a littleover a year ago and she had, you
know, full, like, seat for himand she honored him in her wedding.
And she honored him.
Her father made a speech andlike, honored him that way.
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So he was very much there and honored.
That's beautiful.
And we do they love.
I know they sound kind ofegotistical maybe in a little way.
I don't think it's ego.
I think it's more that itmakes them feel good to know that
they left a lasting impressionon so many people.
When they're honored in someway, they're always there, front
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center.
It's just so cool to see themenjoy being in that moment with the
people.
So.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's.
He's very much part of our,our lives and our conversation.
Well, I'm sure a lot of hisfans feel inspired by the music as
well.
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Yeah, of course.
Do they.
Do they always reach out toyou and say, I played a song in our
wedding or at, you know.
Yeah, I've actually.
Yeah, I mean, I've been offsocial media for a while, but when
I was on it for sure, all thetime getting really.
We got a lot of fan mail for along time after he died.
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And that was really nice, youknow, to see memorials and just,
you know, just see people'sletters and writing expressing how
they felt.
Had really beautiful energy to it.
We kept a lot of that.
He touched a lot of lives.
I'm sure.
You don't even know how manylives you touch.
I still hear from people about Medium.
They're like, it saved my lifeor thank you for that.
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I don't feel like I don't fitin anymore.
I know what I'm doing isnormal, it's human, it's good.
And so I think being a publicfigure is an absolutely Amazing platform
to be able to touch people's lives.
And I'm sure he's got manytattoos of Linkin park all over people
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walking around the world.
No doubt.
No doubt.
And I'm sure he would thankyou for making all the years that
he was with you the best timeof his life and for giving him all
of those versions of heavenfor him to live now until he sees
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you and the kids and whoeverelse he loves again.
Because they always comethrough, and people will say, why
do they stay?
Why are they here?
And I said, because theirheaven isn't complete, so they wait
for us, because without us,their heaven just isn't a full picture.
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And that's why they stay, andthat's why they buffer us and help
us through our life, becausethey love us, but.
And they want us to evolve andexperience all the things we're supposed
to.
But in the end, they can'tfeel settled, as though it's a utopia
that they're in without us.
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And that's such a big thingthat I don't think the living always
grasp that you have so muchpower in how you affect other people's
lives that somebody wouldactually wait for you to cross because
they're not whole without you.
So I just thought that waskind of beautiful.
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So.
Well, is there a place thatpeople can find you?
You said you're off socialmedia, so it sounds like not so much.
Okay, okay.
Leave her alone, people.
You can come find me, bother me.
I'm there, so.
Well, thank you so much forsharing your love story with us,
and happy Valentine's Day.
I hope you do something reallyfun and make some new memories and
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safe travels.
I know you're leaving abroador out of the country today, so safe
travels there.
Thank you.
You're so welcome.
And happy Valentine's Day tomy husband, Joe.
Happy Valentine's Day to allof you.
Remember, you're creating yourversions of heaven right here, right
now.
So don't hold back.
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Take a chance on love.
It's worth the risk.
Thank you to my listeners fortuning in.
Tune in next week for a freshepisode of the Dead Life.
I'm Allison Dubois.
This is the Dead Life, and toall of my believers out there, don't
stop believing.
Join us next week on the Dead Life.
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