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Welcome to the deep dive. This is where we take that pile
of sources you shared. And while we dig into the
interesting bits today, our diveis really geared towards someone
you know, deep into triathlon, focused on training, always
looking for ways to get faster. We've got a stack of articles,
some reviews, It covers quite a bit, power metres, smart bikes,
watches, nutrition, even the business side of fitness.
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We're pulling from sites like DCRainmaker, Endurance, Dot Biz
and also the 5K Runner. That's the website
www.thefiverunner.com which seems really relevant to your
interests. So let's get into it, unpack
this week's news, see what's new, what we've actually
learned, and maybe what could help you get a bit faster.
OK, first up, some big news thatdefinitely hits the wallet.
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DC Rainmaker reported Wahoo Fitness raised prices on all the
products for US buyers. Right.
And the interesting part is the why.
I mean, Wahoo is US based Atlanta, but they make their
stuff mostly in Asia. And these price hikes, they're a
direct hit from new US tariffs on those imports.
It's a clear example of how global economics hits our gear
costs. Yeah, and it's not minor
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adjustments across the board, isit?
Some are like shruggable, as DC Ringmaker put it, but others
pretty significant. The KCKRRN treadmill, for
example, saw a big. Jump exactly.
Now some of that treadmill increase might absorb shipping
costs that were separate before,but the percentage is still
really high. It just shows the tight spot
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these companies are in with trade policy.
And DC Rainmaker pointed out Wahoo isn't doing this elsewhere
like Europe. Prices are staying put.
Yeah, seems like the US market is absorbing the tariff impact
for now. It's different from how, say,
Garmin sometimes approaches pricing, you know, aiming for
global parity or using their size to buffer things.
So it definitely raises a question for you, the listener.
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If you're in the US and we're eyeing a Wahoo product, does
this change things? Yeah, the device given was
pretty straightforward. If you were going to buy, maybe
do it soon before retailers all update their pricing.
OK, sticking with DC Rainmaker, that massive review of the Miwah
of indoor smart bike, this sounds like a seriously premium
bit of kit. Oh absolutely, we're talking
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nearly £5000 sterling. It's definitely high end and the
focus isn't just tech, it's materials where it's made.
It's almost entirely manufactured in the UK.
They even did custom frame painting for the first like 70
buyers at a shop that does fancycars.
That's something else, and the design's different too, isn't
it? Two pieces, base and frame.
Yeah, it's designed so you can swap the frame part quickly,
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maybe 1525 seconds for differentrider sizes.
Though DC Rainmaker did mention if you share the bike and need
different crank lengths, that's not a quick swap, so a potential
snag there. But the main thing seems to be
the movement right the. Lean.
Exactly. That's the stand out.
It allows up to 12° of lean. The idea is to mimic that
feeling of riding outside the bike moving under you.
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The reviewer said it it felt maybe a bit wobbly at first, but
after adjusting it felt much better.
And interestingly, they said they actually missed that sway
now when they ride a totally static bike.
So it actually changes the feel,potentially engages different
muscles, not just a gimmick. It seems like a yeah.
It suggests a different kind of ride experience compared to
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other smart bikes. What about the tech side?
Connectivity. Swift integration.
Pretty solid there. It supports Bluetooth, FTMS and
the Swift protocol right away. That includes steering and,
crucially, gear indicators in the game.
A lot of bikes don't have that initially.
The buttons on the shifters are apparently close to swift play.
Buttons can control power ups, ERG bias, and the shifters
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themselves. They're meant to feel like
Shimano DI too. OK.
DC Rainmaker did mention some things missing for now, like A&T
plus connectivity or that specific Bluetooth power feed
some watches need. Yeah, a couple of emissions
currently, yeah, but the power accuracy that got high price
how? Good.
Are we talking? Yeah, compared against top tier
pedal power metres like Favero, Osceoma DUO, Garmin Rally.
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But the Muhov's readings were basically identical across
different workouts. Sprints, steady state, even with
big temperature swings in the test environment.
That's really impressive. And you know, the reviewer was
also impressed with how Muhov handled a first Gen issue like a
thermal limit thing during a hard workout.
They apparently went all out to test and fix.
It shows good engineering. So summing it up, Premium UK
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made unique movement, great accuracy but maybe not for
everyone. Pricey.
Missing a few features like downhill drive.
Maybe tricky for sharing if crank length differs a lot.
Exactly. It feels like it's targeting a
specific user who values that ride feel and build quality
over, say, maximum feature tech boxes.
OK, let's move to another power metre news from Shane Miller.
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G Palama reviewing the Favero Aasiema PRORS pedals.
Yes, Favero, they have this reputation, right?
They don't rush products out, but when they do.
They're rock solid, That's the phrase often used.
Exactly, and this new one is forthe SPBSL cleat system.
The Shimado Rd standard seems like it follows that pattern.
Shane Miller's verdict was pretty strong.
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Called it the best SPD SL power metre and said they work Florida
State right out-of-the-box. And that Florida State, right,
out-of-the-box part, that's hugefor you as an athlete, isn't it?
Less FAFF, more reliable data for training, just clip in and
go, he said. It sets a new standard.
So yeah, sounds like another really strong option for power
measurement on the. Bike right?
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Good to have solid options. Now let's switch to Garmin News
pulling from the 5K Runner site.First this piece about high
frequency GPS recording 5 Hertz.Yeah, this is where it gets
potentially really interesting for data nerds like us.
Most watches, they grab your location once a second one
Hertz. Garmin's moving to 5 Hertz five
times a second initially for things like downhill mountain
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biking, but the implications could be wider.
OK, five times the data point. So what?
What does that actually mean foryou?
Training for, say, a triathlon? Well, on a basic level, much
more precise tracks on the map. Think sharp corners looking like
sharp corners, not zigzags. Potentially more accurate peak
speed readings, better data on acceleration for sprints, maybe
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more accurate lab splits or segment times.
The article drew a parallel to heart rate variability.
You need high frequency heart rate data, the RR intervals, to
get real recovery insights beyond just average HR.
Similarly, 5 Hertz GPS might unlock new kinds of movement
analysis down the line that one Hertz just can't see.
But the 5K runner did temper that a bit, didn't they?
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Saying for typical running or cycling, maybe it just means
Strava segments might just be a little bit more accurate.
Right, the immediate like game changing benefits seems more
geared towards really fast dynamic sports.
Windsor for things, skiing, motor racing, where a lot
happens in under a second. But it does set the sage.
As the tech evolves, maybe we'llsee more nuanced analysis emerge
from this richer data. It's about potential.
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OK, from data capture to data display.
The 5K runner also looked at thewatch faces on the new Garmins
Phoenix Eight 4 runner 970 specifically.
Yeah, and while the watches themselves are feature packed,
amazing AMOLED screens, the reviewer was pretty blunt about
the default watch faces, especially on the Forerunner 970
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called the collection. Disappointing and outdated and
old style. Compare them unfavourably to
what you see on like an Apple Watch or a Sun to our run or
even the aesthetic around Woop. They even said the cheaper
Instinct 3 felt like it had better options.
It just highlights that even with all the advanced tech under
the hood, that thing you look atconstantly, the watch face, the
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user interface, the aesthetics, it really matters.
Sure you can customise with datafields like training, readiness,
HRV, body, battery, but the basic designs didn't impress
this reviewer. Something maybe for Garmin to
think about. Speaking of watches, still with
the 5K runner, they reviewed thenew Polar Grit X2.
Right. This one's positioned
interestingly, it's meant to be more compact, significantly
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cheaper than the Grid X2 Pro, but it basically has the same
core features. Polar's calling it their most
compact outdoor watch ever, aiming for serious athletes but
also, you know, weekend warriors.
Seems like a lot of watch for the price around 480D.
It really does. You get that great AMOLED screen
with sapphire glass, dual frequency GPS, full colour
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offline topo maps and Polar's latest Elixir biosensing
platform That's Gen 4. OK, Elixir, what's in that
besides optical heart rate? It includes optical heart rate,
yeah, but also wrist ECG, PO2, blood oxygen saturation and skin
temperature sensing. So quite a suite of sensors.
Plus it's got the mill STD 810 Hruggedness rating and a factory
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replaceable battery. That last one is pretty big for
long term value. Any downsides mentioned?
Well, the usual caveat about risk based optical HR accuracy
varying. The reviewer specifically noted
they personally struggle with risk tech accuracy and still
recommend a chest strap for workouts.
That's common though. They also found the Polar Flow
app and the watch UI felt a bit dated visually, suggesting it
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needs an overhaul. And while it has Max and turn by
turn, you can't build routes on the watch and the maps don't
dynamically rewrote you if you go off track, just guide you
back. But overall the 5K runner seemed
pretty positive, especially the value and maybe ease of use.
Yeah, definitely. They highlighted the value
compared to the Pro and called out its ease of use as something
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maybe Garmin sometimes lacks. So for someone wanting a tough,
capable outdoor watch with that polar sensor suite and maybe
preferring their ecosystem without the top tier price, it
looks like a strong contender. OK, let's totally switch gears.
Nutrition crucial for performance endurance dot Biz
had a piece on a new gel from a German company ministry.
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Yeah, this sounded genuinely interesting for endurance folks.
It's called a BLBA EL40 Lemon 1.0.8 and they're calling it the
world's first high performance gel with bicarbonate.
Bicarb athletes use that for buffering, right?
But it often causes stomach issues.
Exactly the classic problem, youusually preload it hours before
and even then gastric distress is super common plus the effect
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wears off. Ministry claims they're using
encapsulation technology. The idea is to get the bicarb
through the stomach and release it in the small intestine,
avoiding those stomach problems.So you can actually take it
during exercise without, you know, disaster pants.
That's the promise. Strategic bicarbonate uptake
during performance. Bicarb helps buffer that acid
buildup when you're going hard, stabilises pH, let's you push
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longer. Each gel has five grammes of
sodium and potassium bicarb, which they say is good for
strategic reloading during intense sessions.
No, and it still delivers 40 grammes of carbs in that one .8
glucose fructose ratio. Right, so it's doing double duty
energy and buffering. If that encapsulation really
works reliably, that could be a pretty useful tool for hard
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efforts and races or training. Interesting endurance dot biz
also had a quick note about shocks, new earbuds, open fit
two and two plus EC. Yeah, just a brief mention, not
many details on specs, but shocks known for their bone
conduction letting you hear traffic.
They're obviously continuing to develop audio for athletes.
Worth keeping an eye on? OK, one last area, the business
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side. Aflatech News reported Peloton
is getting into resale with Repowered.
Yeah, this is a smart move. Probably their own branded
marketplace for users to sell their used bikes and treads.
Starting small in a few U.S. cities for now.
But why don't people already sell them on eBay or whatever?
Isn't Peloton losing a sale? Well, that's the interesting
insight. Peloton seems to recognise that
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the second hand market actually feed them new subscribers.
People buy used gear to get intothe ecosystem, so with repowered
they can control that experiencea bit more, maybe make it feel
safer, capture some value themselves and frame it as
sustainable. And they're encouraging it,
right? Discounts on new gear.
If you use it, sellers get a cut.
Exactly, sellers get 70% of the sale price apparently.
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Gives buyers another way in, maybe lowers the barrier.
Fits with their whole push to bemore than just bikes and treads.
You know, the whole Wellness ecosystem thing.
And this comes after a tough financial quarter for them,
wasn't it? Revenues, sales, subscribers
down. Precisely so things like resale,
tripling their in person events like that run Club 5K, it's all
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part of adapting and trying to boost engagement in business in
a tricky market. Wow.
OK, we covered a lot there from like the nitty gritty of five
Hertz GPS and bike lean to bicarbonate gels, watch faces
and even resale markets. It's fascinating, isn't it, How
all these different threads, thetech, the science, the global
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economics, the business strategy, all weave together in
the world of sports and endurance?
Yeah, the data capture, getting finer, the products trying to
solve specific athlete problems like the bicarb gel, companies
dealing with terrorists, big players like Peloton, shifting
strategy, it all shapes how we train it.
Really. Does it?
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Makes you think, doesn't it? It definitely leaves you
wondering, with all these shifts, global manufacturing,
trade rules affecting prices, constant tech innovation, new
business models like resale, howdoes this constantly changing
landscape actually influence your decisions as an athlete?
You know, deciding what gear is worth the investment or what new
training approaches become possible.
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Always more to unpack, that's for sure.
Digging into these sources really gives you a sense of the
forces shaping our sport. Well, we hope this deep dive
gave you some useful insights, maybe sparked some new questions
for you to think about. Thanks for joining us.