Lots of things to discuss this week - training, nutrition, tips and physiology...oh, and a bit of tech as usual ;-)
This week...
- the Hiking Guy: Various stories: https://youtu.be/Yk1VEbtuxUs
- dcrainmaker on Venu X1 https://youtu.be/zByRglpbNxwhttps://youtu.be/zByRglpbNxw
- Venu X1 - https://the5krunner.com/2025/06/12/garmin-venu-x1-all-you-need-to-know-comparison-first-look-review/
- Verge - watchOS 26 https://www.theverge.com/news/679225/apple-watchos-26-wwdc-features
- Apple Watch SOLAR Teased - https://the5krunner.com/2025/06/09/apple-watch-ultra-3-solar-teased-by-apple/
- Garmin Timing Gates - https://the5krunner.com/2025/06/06/garmin-timing-gates-another-new-feautre-for-june-july-2025/
- Garmin elevate 6 Speculation - https://the5krunner.com/2025/06/14/garmin-elevate-6-how-garmin-will-increase-the-accuracy-of-wellness-sensors/
- Garmin to get Google Maps - https://the5krunner.com/2025/06/09/garmin-watch-to-get-google-maps/
- Garmin HRM 600 Review - https://the5krunner.com/2025/06/11/garmin-hrm-600-review-best-heart-rate-monitor-hrm/
- WWDC 2025 - Take Out - https://the5krunner.com/2025/06/10/wwdc-2025-a-new-design-fitness-buddies-and-mixed-reactions/
- WSJ interview with Apple Execs - https://youtu.be/wCEkK1YzqBo
- GPLama Edge Updates - https://youtu.be/mWgclPLfjnA
Resources & Links:
- Main Channel: https://the5krunner.com
- My other channels: https://linktr.ee/the5krunner
- —Credits: Content in this episode was generated using AI tools (NotebookLM) based on original content from @the5krunner, and other sources as cited, including content from Gplama, DC Raimaker, WSJ, the5krunner, the hiking Guy, the Verge, and more
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Hey everyone, and welcome back to the Deep Dive.
This is where we take your stackof articles, research, and
notes. You know everything you've been
reading and really cut through the noise to get you the
essential knowledge fast. Think of it as a shortcut to
being properly well informed. We cover the stuff that matters
to you, whether you're tracking performance tech, planning your
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next big outdoor adventure, or just, you know, staying ahead of
the curve. Exactly.
And you sent us a great mix thisweek.
We've got updates from Apple, from Garmin, plus a really wide
scope of hiking and general outdoor news.
It's perfect for Someone Like You, maybe following sites like
The Five runner.com. Right, someone deep into the
tech side of running, cycling, swimming, but also really
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focused on overall Wellness, health, span, and definitely
getting outside safely. So our mission today unpack the
most important insights, the surprising facts, and the key
developments from all this material you sent over.
Let's let's dive right in. OK, so let's start with Apple.
WWDC 2025 just happened and there's news on Watch OS.
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First thing it jumps out from your notes, the version number.
They went from 11 straight to 26.
Yeah, that's a clear mood, isn'tit?
They're just standardising the naming, bringing Watch OS in
line with iOS, Mac OS, all the others, aligning the version
number with the calendar year. It it simplifies things down the
road. Makes sense.
And visually, there's this wholenew design language they're
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calling Liquid Glass. What's that about?
Well, what's interesting here isthe aesthetic they're going for.
It's described as transparent, kind of layered, definitely
pulling inspiration from Vision Us.
The idea is to make UI elements,you know, widgets,
notifications, control centre, even the numbers on the photos
watch face seem like they're sort of floating above the
background. Sounds visually, well, striking,
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but I did notice in the notes a potential concern about
readability. If everything's transparent,
does that make it harder to see the text clearly, especially
over busy backgrounds? That does raise a really
important point, doesn't it? It's that classic tension in UI
design, looks versus function. It might look beautiful, sure,
but practicality on a little tiny screen on your wrist is,
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well, it's everything. We'll have to see how that
actually works in the real world.
They've also added new interactions like this wrist
flick gesture. Yes, and this one's hardware
dependent. So if you've got a Series 9 or
newer or an Ultra 2, you can do this quick flick of your wrist
to say, dismiss notifications, silence calls or alarms, or just
jump back to your watch face. OK, it uses the newer motion
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sensors in just those models. Got it.
Plus there's some smaller handy things like automatic volume
adjustment based on ambient noise, and Apple Music
suggesting playlists for your workout type.
Those seem like nice little touches.
Right. But here's where it gets really
interesting, especially for the fitness and Wellness crowd and
for Someone Like You who tracks workout so closely.
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The workout buddy this is an AI powered thing using Apple
Intelligence an. AI workout buddy?
What? What kind of buddy are we
talking about here? Is it just going to bark
commands at me? Not quite commands, it's more
like insights and, well, pep talks.
It's designed to be personalised, using your workout
dated to give you advice, maybe remind you of past achievements
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or goals, Celebrate milestones during the workout.
Mid workout pep talks, OK. And then give you a recap
pointing out personal records and things like that, right?
Your source notes mentioned somepretty mixed reactions though,
calling it uncanny AI voice junk, or underwhelming.
Is there a risk this just becomes, you know, annoying
noise when you're really pushinghard?
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That is the key question, isn't it?
Apple's positioning it as this. It's becoming more proactive,
using better prediction based onyour routine and location, so it
might offer these timely hints, like suggesting A Pilates
workout when you arrive at the studio maybe or and this feels
genuinely useful for safety, suggesting backtrack if you're
out in a remote area with no signal.
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Oh, that backtrack hint is actually quite clever.
And finally, something Long requested the notes at is coming
to watch OS. Yep, you'll be able to view,
pin, create notes using Siri dictation or that little
keyboard, and even tick off checklist right from your wrist.
That was noted as a really positive addition pretty much
across the board. And other Apple intelligence
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features, things like live translation and messages, and
those call features like hold assist and call screening,
They're coming to compatible watches and iPhones too,
described as clever, almost sci-fi stuff from your wrist.
OK, so just to recap, compatibility for watch OS 26
needs a Series 6 or later SE 2ndGen or an Ultra and paired with
an iPhone 11 or later, but thoseApple intelligence features
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workout buddy included. Right, those need the newer
hardware series 9 or Ultra 2 andan AI capable iPhone like the 15
Pro or Pro Max or the upcoming 16 series.
So it feels like Apples making these iterative improvements,
focusing on the bigger ecosystem, pushing AI
everywhere, but the core fitnessstuff feels maybe less
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revolutionary compared to some dedicated platforms.
That's definitely the sense fromthe notes.
The UI changes, the AI call features are slick, but the
fitness side, especially that workout buddy wasn't seen as a
total game changer by many. The feeling was the bigger AI
impact for Apple this year was maybe more on iPad and Mac.
Interesting. And the speculation is that
Apple's longer term health focusfor the watch might be more in
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areas like medical grade, sensing, blood pressure trends,
things like that, rather than going head to head feature for
feature with platforms built fordeep performance data like, you
know, 2047 high res HRV. Right.
OK, Speaking of the Watch Ultra,let's shift to some really
intriguing speculation. Your sources picked up on a
theory about a potential Apple Watch Ultra Three with solar
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charging. Yeah, this one comes straight
from a visual detail in an Applevideo they showed at WWDC.
It showed an Apple Watch Ultra 2, but the watch face very
clearly displayed the word solar.
OK, hang on. Was that like a deliberate
teaser for a future product or just some random graphic?
A gag maybe? That's the big debate the Notes
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dug into. Historically, Apple has used
these subtle visual hints at WWDC that turned out to be real
things later, like the silhouette of the thin MacBook
Air or showing iMac colours before launch.
A solar watch face feels pretty blunt if it wasn't deliberate.
And technically, is putting solar into an AMOLED smartwatch
even like, feasible? Right.
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Now, well, as far as the sourcesindicate, no, there isn't an
AMOLED solar smartwatch actuallyon the market today.
But patents do exist. Garmin, for instance, has a
patent for transparent photovoltaic cells that sit
under an AMOLED screen. Oh, interesting.
And there's even research into Oled's themselves may be acting
as photovoltaic cells. So the underlying tech is
definitely being explored. So what's the likelihood
assessment from the notes then? Is this happening?
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Well, without that specific video hint it would seem pretty
doubtful, just given the power demands of the Ultra screen and
features and the technical complexity, but the sheer
bluntness of that solar text makes it reasonable to at least
consider, right? It's tempered though by the fact
that no competitor has actually managed this yet with an AMOLED
display and for a. Watch Ultra 3 to really make
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waves it would need a big hardware update, wouldn't it?
Solar could definitely create that buzz and maybe offer a
battery boost, which the source notes point out the Ultra could
kind of use use. That 12 hour GPS time is called
less than average compared to some others.
Exactly, but the opinion offeredwas that solar on a device
that's power hungry, it might end up being more of a marketing
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thing than providing truly significant real world battery
gains in typical use. Maybe just keeps it topped up a
tiny bit. Yeah, I can see that the reader
comments you included showed that mix too, right?
Some thought gag, others saw thepower challenge, some got
technical about Oleds. I'm questioning how useful it
really be depending on where youlive, how much sun you actually
get. It clearly sparked a lot of
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talk. Yeah, all from just one word on
the screen. OK, let's transition away from
Apples maybe future to some definite updates from Garmin
specifically for their edge cycling computers, the
5484010401050 and the solar ones.
Yes, Garmin pushed out new firmware recently, versions
27.14 and 12.14. These were mostly bug fix
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releases, really just cleaning up issues from a previous larger
update. So fixing things like freezes or
crashes during navigation and sorting out problems pairing
with the in Reach Mini 2. Correct.
There were also a few smaller features sprinkled in, like
enabling software updates via Bluetooth Low Energy, which is
handy, presets for Campanella's 13 speed group sets, support for
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very of you as D card reformatting.
There was also mention of some new animations, but apparently
they're quite hard to spot. One useful addition seems to be
the ability to natively save a course in the reverse.
Direction, right? You could always ride a course
backward before, but now you caneasily create and save that
reverse version as its own separate course right on the
device. But the absolutely critical
warning here in DC, Rainmaker highlighted this is you have got
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to be incredibly careful about one way roads when you do this.
You use the Mount Bunning long example where reversing the
course puts you straight onto a one way uphill street right into
oncoming traffic. Oh, wow.
OK. Good morning.
Yeah, so always double check themap.
Make sure your map packs are updated before you rely on a
reversed route. I saw a note about a weird
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detail with spectator messaging.What was that?
Yeah, that was a bit of a rabbithole.
It's part of Garmin's Live Trackfeature, but the spectator
messaging function only works ifyou send the live track links
specifically via e-mail. Only e-mail.
Yeah, if you just copy the link from Garmin connector or share
it on social media, that messaging part isn't enabled.
Weird Kirk. They also added an 8 second
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timeout prompt which is just a small usability tweak.
Gotcha. Other improvements noted were
things like better altimeter accuracy, improved pairing for
secure BLE sensors, which is important as Ant and Ant plus
fade out. Right with maybe hope for secure
group set connections down the line using BLE.
Also better erformance with really large courses.
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Imroved handling for gear preset's with nonstandard counts
like the newer 14 seed stuff andgenerally better map and
elevation handling. And just a lot of fixed issues,
including small annoyances like the stop navigation option
vanishing too quickly. Exactly polishing things up.
OK, shifting to Maps specifically, there's some
pretty big news here that apparently arrived very quietly.
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That's right, the sources found that Garmin Cycling Maps as a
standalone product are being discontinued effective May 7th,
2025. Discontinue.
Wait, what does that mean for users?
Do you lose maps? Buy something new.
OK, so the good news is the actual map content isn't
disappearing is being merged into their Topo Active maps.
The key question for you and other users is about future
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updates. The notes mentioned the content
can be purchased or downloaded, but there's hope that existing
owners will just continue to getfree updates via download
through Garmin Express like theydo now.
Topo Active version 25.10 is already out and includes this
cycling data. And a practical tip mentioned
again, always use a USB cable for these huge map updates.
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Wi-Fi can be super slow or unreliable.
OK, good tip. And what kind of improvements
are in these merged maps? Well fixes for routing errors,
especially noted in Europe. Improved Rd colours and
contrast, making it easier to distinguish different Rd classes
and even identifying sealed versus unsealed roads at certain
zoom levels. City labels are bigger, and
there's an interesting detail about how parks visually drop
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off at higher zooms, but their boundary lines remain visible.
Plus, updated popularity data, those heat maps showing where
people actually ride or hike. I saw that point about
popularity maps sometimes simplifying the screen, like
driving other map details to focus just on the suggested
route overlay. Yeah, it seems designed to sort
of prioritise that heat map datawhen you're actively using it
for a route planning or following an interesting choice.
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And the most celebrated undocumented update from this
release. Yes, a larger turtle icon on the
navigation screen. Or you know a triangle depending
on your perspective. A bigger turtle.
Really. Sounds totally trivial, right?
But apparently on the Garmin user forums it was a small but
widely praised change. Just making that little
navigation arrow slightly biggerand easier to glance at.
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A genuine quality of life when they didn't even list in the
notes. Sometimes it's the little
things. There are also some tech tips
mentioned that USB over Wi-Fi thing, a potential fix for
Garmin Express issues on Apple Silicon Macs found in a forum
thread, and the switch to MTP protocol for file access on
these newer edge units instead of mass storage.
Right, which means Mac users might need a tool like Android
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File Transfer if they want direct file access, which they
used to get easily. Just useful troubleshooting
info. OK, now looking ahead, your
sources are hinting at a potentially significant new
Garmin feature coming soon. Timing gates.
Yeah, the concept itself isn't totally new for Garmin.
They have an auto lap by timing gates on the 4 runner 970
already, mainly for aligning race laps accurately with
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physical markers. But this naming suggests
something broader, and it looks like enhanced timing gates
functionality is expected. Maybe June or July 2025.
Possibly launching on new edge models, maybe the rumoured 550
or 850 around the time of Euro bike perhaps?
Is this the speculation? Yeah, the notes detail how the
MTV version of this feature works.
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You can manually create up to 10of these gates using GPS.
You literally stand at the spot,face downhill, press a button.
It's a big step up from the old auto lap by position, which only
let you set one single spot. This is designed for setting up
a single continuous route with multiple marked timing points.
And what's the real benefit for mountain bikers, or maybe
others? The main thing is creating
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automatic laps or segments as you ride the course.
This is huge for, say, time downhill sections because it
totally gets around the danger and the inaccuracy of trying to
hit a manual lap button when you're flying downhill at over
30 miles an hour. Yeah, that's never ideal.
And to improve accuracy at thosespeeds.
They're adding 5 Hertz downhill recording, so 5 GPS points per
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second instead of the usual one.Combined with the newer GNSS
chipsets, that should give significantly better accuracy,
especially when you're moving fast and changing direction
quickly. Makes sense.
So where else could this featureapply beyond MTB?
Well, the notes speculate snow and water sports seem like a
perfect fit, right? Setting up gates on a ski slope
or a paddle course, although you'd obviously need to reseal
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the course 1st and moving gates on water add some complexity.
For slower sports like running or just regular Rd cycling,
manual lap tapping might still be good enough.
So it's usefulness is maybe questioned there.
Unless they make it easy to create gates and Garmin connect
beforehand. Maybe buying a paywall
potentially. But here's where it gets really
interesting from multi sport athletes like you and a lot of
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the folks following the five runner.com.
Yes, exactly. The source is incredibly excited
about the potential for triathlon use.
The idea is simple, but could berevolutionary.
You could use this timing gate feature to manually mark your
transitions before the race starts.
You know, swim in, bike out, bike in, run out.
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Oh wow. Combine that with Garma's
existing auto multisort profile features and you could
potentially create a truly automated race profile that
handles all your splits, all your transitions, seamlessly.
No more hitting the lap button frantically in T1.
So Garmin could be the first to offer genuinely automated multi
sport tracking. That's the hope.
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It just seems like such an obvious perfect fit for
triathlons. Although the note also adds a
word of caution, a core feature that's useful solving such a
long standing problem for triathletes.
It kind of screams subscription paywall, which would really
frustrating if it's not just included for free on the capable
devices. Yeah, let's hope not.
So the takeaway on timing gates?It shows Garmin is definitely
doing market research, innovating for competitive and
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structured training even if there are challenges like maybe
accuracy under heavy tree cover sometimes.
But applying this to triathlon really does feel like a no
brainer that they've probably already thought about or are
planning. There's even a comment about
someone seeing an event listing for the Chicago Marathon in the
Garmin app that mentioned using this feature, which would be
huge validation. Very cool potential there.
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OK, let's shift gears completelynow to the wide range of hiking
and general outdoor news you pulled together from your
sources. There is a tonne here, Apps
safety access, yeah, it's a. Really broad sweep of what's
happening out there, starting with apps and digital tools, all
trails that rebundle their services.
Now it's free plus and peak tiers.
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And that caused some user grumbling features moving
between tiers. Correct, the peak level price is
now pretty comparable to other dedicated mapping apps like on X
or Gaia GPS. But the plus level it still
offers good value, especially for getting those offline map
downloads, which is absolutely critical for safety.
Footpath, another routing app. They're testing a direct
integration with Garmin in Reachso you can share your live in
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reach position onto a footpath map, which is a neat
cross-platform safety feature. Goat maps.
That's the new one from Xcaya. Folks launched a web version.
Still pretty limited compared tothe big players, but they have a
web version now and there was a mention of a cool free online
tool for visualising your GPX tracks in 3D.
Nice on satellite communications, specifically
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Starlink's direct to self-service.
Yeah, this is notable. T-Mobile has priced its texting
service using this at $10 a month, and apparently it's for
anyone, even if you're not a T-Mobile customer.
That sets a clear price benchmark for basic satellite
texting, which contrasts with Ale's currently free satellite
messaging. And Speaking of ale and
satellites, the Note spotted a reference to Apple satellite
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weather in the WWDC code. Pure speculation at this point,
but yeah. Yeah.
Could it be a future feature fornewer iPhones?
Yeah. Maybe hinting at Apple trying to
compete more directly with Garmin in reach by offering more
satellite services beyond just SOS and basic texts.
Who knows? Interesting.
More Garmin in Reach news though, and this was highlighted
as a really positive change. They're letting accounts be
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suspended for up to 12 months free of charge now.
Yes, that's a huge relief for seasonal users, right?
People who don't want to pay that monthly fee all year round
probably came from user feedback.
Quick note on their SAR insurance though, the SAR 100
plus plans you can now only buy it if you're in the US or
Canada, but it still gives you worldwide coverage if you do buy
it there. Overwatch and Rescue was
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mentioned as an alternative SOS subscription service too.
OK, there was also a confusing note about in reach satellite
tracking now giving users the option to use Map share or Live
track which is the standard Garmin watch interface.
Right. And what's fascinating or maybe
confusing about that choice is could it be a hint?
Is Garmin developing a future satellite capable watch building
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in reach tech onto say an endurothree base?
Maybe in a smaller in reach mini3 type body with mapping NAV,
maybe even standard and plus options for voice or photo
sending? It's pure speculation, but that
little UI change sparked it. Interesting dots to connect
shifting slightly within Garmin.A leaked video about a sleep
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tracking armband. Yeah, letting users get sleep
data without having to wear a watch overnight.
And their CEO mentioned tariffs could cost Garmin $100 million,
keeping options open on whether those costs get passed on to us,
the customers. Wow, just highlights the
business side, right? Global supply chains, trade
policies, R&D into new gadgets, it all affects the gear we use.
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Keen Footwear was noted as saying they won't pass on
tariffs in 2025. So that's a comparison point.
And a bit of controversy brewing, Garmin trails a new
paywalled service. Yeah, the source called this a
ballsy move. Essentially, it packages up and
resells user data, people's recorded hikes activities into a
commercial product, and Garmin is actively prompting users to
contribute all this data for free, which it then turns around
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and monetizes. That definitely raises some
questions about data ownership and privacy on these platforms.
It really does. Also in this section, software
was spotted suggesting a Google Maps integration with Garmin
might be coming, which feels like it should be simple when
paired with a phone. But the specific software hinted
at maybe a deeper integration plan.
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OK, other small but interesting Garmin watch features mentioned
adding pack weight to training effect.
So logging you're carrying 60 lbs actually changes how the
watch sees your effort. Yeah, and features like rocking.
And there was that great anecdote about a Garmin watch
surviving a super long journey lost in the Irish Sea.
Proof of ruggedness, I guess. Koros, another watchmaker.
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They've started a repair programme which is a good step
for sustainability. Definitely.
OK, let's transition now from tech and business to some really
critical safety information and sadly, some recent tragic events
highlighted in your sources. Yeah, this is important stuff.
The Grand Canyon heat related deaths and that report of 13
helicopter rescues in just one went.
It's just an incredible stark reminder of how dangerous that
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heat can be. And the Park Service warnings
about delayed help because staffare stretched thin and rescue
volume is so high. That's crucial for people to
understand. Absolutely, and the note
suggested that the closure of the river trail might actually
be pushing people onto more exposed, waterless rim to rim
routes, maybe increasing the risk even more.
And it's really disheartening toread that report about some
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visitors being rude about rescuedelays just highlights the
immense strain on those resources.
Yeah. Another heat death reported in
Arizona, An influencer apparently just underscores
taking heat seriously. The author even included a
personal example of changing plans because of lightning.
You have to adapt. And then the tragic exposure
deaths of a father and daughter hiking Mount Katahdin in Maine
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in June. That's such a powerful reminder
that even in summer, high mountains can still be deadly.
Cold, wet, windy conditions, combined preparedness,
understanding weather, having the right gear.
It's just non negotiable up there.
Absolutely. So bring other safety notes.
APCT closure in California during a search for a murder
suspect. Two people gored by bison and
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Yellowstone for getting too close.
Multiple waterfall deaths. East Coast and Olympic NP from
slipping near the edge. Yeah, just tragic reminders and
an unusual story from Spain mentioned a huge fine over
$200,000 for someone throwing a rock down a gorge where hikers
were below, real consequences for reckless behaviour, and a
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report of a grizzly following a hiker in Banff, though it
sounded like the bear was just using the trail.
Still unnerving. For sure.
OK moving to park and trail access management issues.
Glacier NP started a hiker shuttle to deal with
construction seen as a good idea.
Yeah, potentially useful in other busy parks too.
Also those more perfect union billboards popping up
highlighting potential negative impacts of budget cuts on park
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resources. And the author noted seeing
fewer visitors, especially overseas tourists at Bryce NP.
Maybe broader travel shifts happening.
The Interior Department is also floating the idea of charging
non Americans more for park entry.
And a definite warning note. A guide company, Weston Sier
Adventures, listed on Yosemite'sofficial approved page,
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reportedly took payment but never actually provided a tour.
Oof, yeah, definitely buyer beware.
Do your research even if a company's officially listed
somewhere. Good advice.
On a more positive note. Shenandoah National Park is
growing by 50 acres and a new tribal National Park opened in
North Dakota, which was highlighted as really awesome, a
great step for indigenous management of public lands.
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That is good news. There's also a lawsuit in
California challenging junk feeson a recreation booking site
with Mady hopes this could lead to challenging the federal
recreation Gov sites permit application fees like that $6
fee just to apply even if you don't get the permit.
Yeah, access continues to be complicated.
The Chilkoot Trail, Alaska to Canada reopened, but
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unfortunately you still can't hike all the way across the
border. Ongoing issues since 2022
affecting that and also the northern end of the PCT.
OK, some other interesting outdoor bids.
USA TODAY listed its 10 Best Trails section Hiker has a new
book, Hiking Over 60 tips for olding hikers.
A company called Summit Something selling Leave No Trace
friendly Summit flags. Yep, and a story about John
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McShane and his cool trash picker invention, but
highlighting how tariffs messed up his manufacturing plans.
Updates on Southern California fire closures and openings, an
arrest made about That Guy harassing hikers at the Mount
Baldy trailhead and the Heroes Project opening a gear shop Cafe
guide service at Ice House Canyon Trailhead supporting
veterans. Good stuff there.
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Mountain High Resort offering chairlift service for mountain
biking and Angeles NF now and a controversial BLM proposal for
mining at conglomerate Mesa, visible from Mount Whitney.
Yeah, Facing opposition. A documentary was recommended
explaining why it's seen as a bad idea.
OK. And finally, the notes
introduced the International Association of Search and Rescue
Coordinators, izark. Right Founded by a retired U.S.
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Coast Guard SAR veteran, its mission is basically to
standardise search and rescue coordination globally.
And their core message. That lives are saved by a
system. It's not just the heroic folks
repelling from helicopters, but the whole complex system,
Talented people doing various jobs, pilots, medics, com
specialist and crucially the coordinators managing the whole
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operation from behind the scenes.
They advocate for those coordinators.
They need to improve competency and the whole science of SAR
worldwide. Wow.
OK, we have covered a massive amount of ground today from, you
know, cutting edge tech speculation like Apples maybe
solar watch and the nuances of their AI workout buddy to
Garmin's very practical edge updates and that really exciting
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potential of timing gates for athletes like you.
And then that critical shift to essential safety reminders from
recent tragedies, changes in howwe access and manage our outdoor
spaces, and even the quiet controversies happening in
outdoor tech and business. Yeah, the pace of tech change
and fitness and the outdoors is just so rapid, isn't it?
Offering new tools, new data. But as we saw clearly with all
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that safety news, the fundamental stuff, preparedness,
environmental awareness, respecting conditions, that
remains absolutely paramount. It's always a balance.
So here's a final thought for you, the listener, to consider
as you process all this. With technology offering us
increasingly sophisticated tools, you know, AI companions,
satellite links, automated tracking, how do we navigate
that balance between leveraging these cool advancements for
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performance and safety and maintaining those fundamental,
often low tech skills, that awareness, that self-sufficiency
that's just essential when you're really out there?
And alongside that, how do we weigh the increasing
commercialization, paywalls, data monetization, changing
access against those core valuesof community, shared
stewardship, Open Access that have kind of historically
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defined the outdoor world? Definitely something to Mull
over as you plan your next adventure or workout.
Thanks so much for joining us for this deep dive.
Hey everyone, and welcome back to the Deep Dive.
This is where we take your stackof articles, research, and
notes. You know everything you've been
reading and really cut through the noise to get you the
essential knowledge fast. Think of it as a shortcut to
being properly well informed. We cover the stuff that matters
to you, whether you're tracking performance tech, planning your
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next big outdoor adventure, or just, you know, staying ahead of
the curve. Exactly.
And you sent us a great mix thisweek.
We've got updates from Apple, from Garmin, plus a really wide
scope of hiking and general outdoor news.
It's perfect for Someone Like You, maybe following sites like
The Five runner.com. Right, someone deep into the
tech side of running, cycling, swimming, but also really
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focused on overall Wellness, health, span, and definitely
getting outside safely. So our mission today unpack the
most important insights, the surprising facts, and the key
developments from all this material you sent over.
Let's let's dive right in. OK, so let's start with Apple.
WWDC 2025 just happened and there's news on Watch OS.
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First thing it jumps out from your notes, the version number.
They went from 11 straight to 26.
Yeah, that's a clear mood, isn'tit?
They're just standardising the naming, bringing Watch OS in
line with iOS, Mac OS, all the others, aligning the version
number with the calendar year. It it simplifies things down the
road. Makes sense.
And visually, there's this wholenew design language they're
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calling Liquid Glass. What's that about?
Well, what's interesting here isthe aesthetic they're going for.
It's described as transparent, kind of layered, definitely
pulling inspiration from Vision Us.
The idea is to make UI elements,you know, widgets,
notifications, control centre, even the numbers on the photos
watch face seem like they're sort of floating above the
background. Sounds visually, well, striking,
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but I did notice in the notes a potential concern about
readability. If everything's transparent,
does that make it harder to see the text clearly, especially
over busy backgrounds? That does raise a really
important point, doesn't it? It's that classic tension in UI
design, looks versus function. It might look beautiful, sure,
but practicality on a little tiny screen on your wrist is,
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well, it's everything. We'll have to see how that
actually works in the real world.
They've also added new interactions like this wrist
flick gesture. Yes, and this one's hardware
dependent. So if you've got a Series 9 or
newer or an Ultra 2, you can do this quick flick of your wrist
to say, dismiss notifications, silence calls or alarms, or just
jump back to your watch face. OK, it uses the newer motion
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sensors in just those models. Got it.
Plus there's some smaller handy things like automatic volume
adjustment based on ambient noise, and Apple Music
suggesting playlists for your workout type.
Those seem like nice little touches.
Right. But here's where it gets really
interesting, especially for the fitness and Wellness crowd and
for Someone Like You who tracks workout so closely.
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The workout buddy this is an AI powered thing using Apple
Intelligence an. AI workout buddy?
What? What kind of buddy are we
talking about here? Is it just going to bark
commands at me? Not quite commands, it's more
like insights and, well, pep talks.
It's designed to be personalised, using your workout
dated to give you advice, maybe remind you of past achievements
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or goals, Celebrate milestones during the workout.
Mid workout pep talks, OK. And then give you a recap
pointing out personal records and things like that, right?
Your source notes mentioned somepretty mixed reactions though,
calling it uncanny AI voice junk, or underwhelming.
Is there a risk this just becomes, you know, annoying
noise when you're really pushinghard?
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That is the key question, isn't it?
Apple's positioning it as this. It's becoming more proactive,
using better prediction based onyour routine and location, so it
might offer these timely hints, like suggesting A Pilates
workout when you arrive at the studio maybe or and this feels
genuinely useful for safety, suggesting backtrack if you're
out in a remote area with no signal.
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Oh, that backtrack hint is actually quite clever.
And finally, something Long requested the notes at is coming
to watch OS. Yep, you'll be able to view,
pin, create notes using Siri dictation or that little
keyboard, and even tick off checklist right from your wrist.
That was noted as a really positive addition pretty much
across the board. And other Apple intelligence
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features, things like live translation and messages, and
those call features like hold assist and call screening,
They're coming to compatible watches and iPhones too,
described as clever, almost sci-fi stuff from your wrist.
OK, so just to recap, compatibility for watch OS 26
needs a Series 6 or later SE 2ndGen or an Ultra and paired with
an iPhone 11 or later, but thoseApple intelligence features
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workout buddy included. Right, those need the newer
hardware series 9 or Ultra 2 andan AI capable iPhone like the 15
Pro or Pro Max or the upcoming 16 series.
So it feels like Apples making these iterative improvements,
focusing on the bigger ecosystem, pushing AI
everywhere, but the core fitnessstuff feels maybe less
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revolutionary compared to some dedicated platforms.
That's definitely the sense fromthe notes.
The UI changes, the AI call features are slick, but the
fitness side, especially that workout buddy wasn't seen as a
total game changer by many. The feeling was the bigger AI
impact for Apple this year was maybe more on iPad and Mac.
Interesting. And the speculation is that
Apple's longer term health focusfor the watch might be more in
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areas like medical grade, sensing, blood pressure trends,
things like that, rather than going head to head feature for
feature with platforms built fordeep performance data like, you
know, 2047 high res HRV. Right.
OK, Speaking of the Watch Ultra,let's shift to some really
intriguing speculation. Your sources picked up on a
theory about a potential Apple Watch Ultra Three with solar
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charging. Yeah, this one comes straight
from a visual detail in an Applevideo they showed at WWDC.
It showed an Apple Watch Ultra 2, but the watch face very
clearly displayed the word solar.
OK, hang on. Was that like a deliberate
teaser for a future product or just some random graphic?
A gag maybe? That's the big debate the Notes
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dug into. Historically, Apple has used
these subtle visual hints at WWDC that turned out to be real
things later, like the silhouette of the thin MacBook
Air or showing iMac colours before launch.
A solar watch face feels pretty blunt if it wasn't deliberate.
And technically, is putting solar into an AMOLED smartwatch
even like, feasible? Right.
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Now, well, as far as the sourcesindicate, no, there isn't an
AMOLED solar smartwatch actuallyon the market today.
But patents do exist. Garmin, for instance, has a
patent for transparent photovoltaic cells that sit
under an AMOLED screen. Oh, interesting.
And there's even research into Oled's themselves may be acting
as photovoltaic cells. So the underlying tech is
definitely being explored. So what's the likelihood
assessment from the notes then? Is this happening?
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Well, without that specific video hint it would seem pretty
doubtful, just given the power demands of the Ultra screen and
features and the technical complexity, but the sheer
bluntness of that solar text makes it reasonable to at least
consider, right? It's tempered though by the fact
that no competitor has actually managed this yet with an AMOLED
display and for a. Watch Ultra 3 to really make
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waves it would need a big hardware update, wouldn't it?
Solar could definitely create that buzz and maybe offer a
battery boost, which the source notes point out the Ultra could
kind of use use. That 12 hour GPS time is called
less than average compared to some others.
Exactly, but the opinion offeredwas that solar on a device
that's power hungry, it might end up being more of a marketing
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thing than providing truly significant real world battery
gains in typical use. Maybe just keeps it topped up a
tiny bit. Yeah, I can see that the reader
comments you included showed that mix too, right?
Some thought gag, others saw thepower challenge, some got
technical about Oleds. I'm questioning how useful it
really be depending on where youlive, how much sun you actually
get. It clearly sparked a lot of
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talk. Yeah, all from just one word on
the screen. OK, let's transition away from
Apples maybe future to some definite updates from Garmin
specifically for their edge cycling computers, the
5484010401050 and the solar ones.
Yes, Garmin pushed out new firmware recently, versions
27.14 and 12.14. These were mostly bug fix
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releases, really just cleaning up issues from a previous larger
update. So fixing things like freezes or
crashes during navigation and sorting out problems pairing
with the in Reach Mini 2. Correct.
There were also a few smaller features sprinkled in, like
enabling software updates via Bluetooth Low Energy, which is
handy, presets for Campanella's 13 speed group sets, support for
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very of you as D card reformatting.
There was also mention of some new animations, but apparently
they're quite hard to spot. One useful addition seems to be
the ability to natively save a course in the reverse.
Direction, right? You could always ride a course
backward before, but now you caneasily create and save that
reverse version as its own separate course right on the
device. But the absolutely critical
warning here in DC, Rainmaker highlighted this is you have got
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to be incredibly careful about one way roads when you do this.
You use the Mount Bunning long example where reversing the
course puts you straight onto a one way uphill street right into
oncoming traffic. Oh, wow.
OK. Good morning.
Yeah, so always double check themap.
Make sure your map packs are updated before you rely on a
reversed route. I saw a note about a weird
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detail with spectator messaging.What was that?
Yeah, that was a bit of a rabbithole.
It's part of Garmin's Live Trackfeature, but the spectator
messaging function only works ifyou send the live track links
specifically via e-mail. Only e-mail.
Yeah, if you just copy the link from Garmin connector or share
it on social media, that messaging part isn't enabled.
Weird Kirk. They also added an 8 second
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timeout prompt which is just a small usability tweak.
Gotcha. Other improvements noted were
things like better altimeter accuracy, improved pairing for
secure BLE sensors, which is important as Ant and Ant plus
fade out. Right with maybe hope for secure
group set connections down the line using BLE.
Also better erformance with really large courses.
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Imroved handling for gear preset's with nonstandard counts
like the newer 14 seed stuff andgenerally better map and
elevation handling. And just a lot of fixed issues,
including small annoyances like the stop navigation option
vanishing too quickly. Exactly polishing things up.
OK, shifting to Maps specifically, there's some
pretty big news here that apparently arrived very quietly.
(10:24):
That's right, the sources found that Garmin Cycling Maps as a
standalone product are being discontinued effective May 7th,
2025. Discontinue.
Wait, what does that mean for users?
Do you lose maps? Buy something new.
OK, so the good news is the actual map content isn't
disappearing is being merged into their Topo Active maps.
The key question for you and other users is about future
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updates. The notes mentioned the content
can be purchased or downloaded, but there's hope that existing
owners will just continue to getfree updates via download
through Garmin Express like theydo now.
Topo Active version 25.10 is already out and includes this
cycling data. And a practical tip mentioned
again, always use a USB cable for these huge map updates.
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Wi-Fi can be super slow or unreliable.
OK, good tip. And what kind of improvements
are in these merged maps? Well fixes for routing errors,
especially noted in Europe. Improved Rd colours and
contrast, making it easier to distinguish different Rd classes
and even identifying sealed versus unsealed roads at certain
zoom levels. City labels are bigger, and
there's an interesting detail about how parks visually drop
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off at higher zooms, but their boundary lines remain visible.
Plus, updated popularity data, those heat maps showing where
people actually ride or hike. I saw that point about
popularity maps sometimes simplifying the screen, like
driving other map details to focus just on the suggested
route overlay. Yeah, it seems designed to sort
of prioritise that heat map datawhen you're actively using it
for a route planning or following an interesting choice.
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And the most celebrated undocumented update from this
release. Yes, a larger turtle icon on the
navigation screen. Or you know a triangle depending
on your perspective. A bigger turtle.
Really. Sounds totally trivial, right?
But apparently on the Garmin user forums it was a small but
widely praised change. Just making that little
navigation arrow slightly biggerand easier to glance at.
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A genuine quality of life when they didn't even list in the
notes. Sometimes it's the little
things. There are also some tech tips
mentioned that USB over Wi-Fi thing, a potential fix for
Garmin Express issues on Apple Silicon Macs found in a forum
thread, and the switch to MTP protocol for file access on
these newer edge units instead of mass storage.
Right, which means Mac users might need a tool like Android
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File Transfer if they want direct file access, which they
used to get easily. Just useful troubleshooting
info. OK, now looking ahead, your
sources are hinting at a potentially significant new
Garmin feature coming soon. Timing gates.
Yeah, the concept itself isn't totally new for Garmin.
They have an auto lap by timing gates on the 4 runner 970
already, mainly for aligning race laps accurately with
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physical markers. But this naming suggests
something broader, and it looks like enhanced timing gates
functionality is expected. Maybe June or July 2025.
Possibly launching on new edge models, maybe the rumoured 550
or 850 around the time of Euro bike perhaps?
Is this the speculation? Yeah, the notes detail how the
MTV version of this feature works.
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You can manually create up to 10of these gates using GPS.
You literally stand at the spot,face downhill, press a button.
It's a big step up from the old auto lap by position, which only
let you set one single spot. This is designed for setting up
a single continuous route with multiple marked timing points.
And what's the real benefit for mountain bikers, or maybe
others? The main thing is creating
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automatic laps or segments as you ride the course.
This is huge for, say, time downhill sections because it
totally gets around the danger and the inaccuracy of trying to
hit a manual lap button when you're flying downhill at over
30 miles an hour. Yeah, that's never ideal.
And to improve accuracy at thosespeeds.
They're adding 5 Hertz downhill recording, so 5 GPS points per
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second instead of the usual one.Combined with the newer GNSS
chipsets, that should give significantly better accuracy,
especially when you're moving fast and changing direction
quickly. Makes sense.
So where else could this featureapply beyond MTB?
Well, the notes speculate snow and water sports seem like a
perfect fit, right? Setting up gates on a ski slope
or a paddle course, although you'd obviously need to reseal
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the course 1st and moving gates on water add some complexity.
For slower sports like running or just regular Rd cycling,
manual lap tapping might still be good enough.
So it's usefulness is maybe questioned there.
Unless they make it easy to create gates and Garmin connect
beforehand. Maybe buying a paywall
potentially. But here's where it gets really
interesting from multi sport athletes like you and a lot of
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the folks following the five runner.com.
Yes, exactly. The source is incredibly excited
about the potential for triathlon use.
The idea is simple, but could berevolutionary.
You could use this timing gate feature to manually mark your
transitions before the race starts.
You know, swim in, bike out, bike in, run out.
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Oh wow. Combine that with Garma's
existing auto multisort profile features and you could
potentially create a truly automated race profile that
handles all your splits, all your transitions, seamlessly.
No more hitting the lap button frantically in T1.
So Garmin could be the first to offer genuinely automated multi
sport tracking. That's the hope.
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It just seems like such an obvious perfect fit for
triathlons. Although the note also adds a
word of caution, a core feature that's useful solving such a
long standing problem for triathletes.
It kind of screams subscription paywall, which would really
frustrating if it's not just included for free on the capable
devices. Yeah, let's hope not.
So the takeaway on timing gates?It shows Garmin is definitely
doing market research, innovating for competitive and
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structured training even if there are challenges like maybe
accuracy under heavy tree cover sometimes.
But applying this to triathlon really does feel like a no
brainer that they've probably already thought about or are
planning. There's even a comment about
someone seeing an event listing for the Chicago Marathon in the
Garmin app that mentioned using this feature, which would be
huge validation. Very cool potential there.
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OK, let's shift gears completelynow to the wide range of hiking
and general outdoor news you pulled together from your
sources. There is a tonne here, Apps
safety access, yeah, it's a. Really broad sweep of what's
happening out there, starting with apps and digital tools, all
trails that rebundle their services.
Now it's free plus and peak tiers.
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And that caused some user grumbling features moving
between tiers. Correct, the peak level price is
now pretty comparable to other dedicated mapping apps like on X
or Gaia GPS. But the plus level it still
offers good value, especially for getting those offline map
downloads, which is absolutely critical for safety.
Footpath, another routing app. They're testing a direct
integration with Garmin in Reachso you can share your live in
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reach position onto a footpath map, which is a neat
cross-platform safety feature. Goat maps.
That's the new one from Xcaya. Folks launched a web version.
Still pretty limited compared tothe big players, but they have a
web version now and there was a mention of a cool free online
tool for visualising your GPX tracks in 3D.
Nice on satellite communications, specifically
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Starlink's direct to self-service.
Yeah, this is notable. T-Mobile has priced its texting
service using this at $10 a month, and apparently it's for
anyone, even if you're not a T-Mobile customer.
That sets a clear price benchmark for basic satellite
texting, which contrasts with Ale's currently free satellite
messaging. And Speaking of ale and
satellites, the Note spotted a reference to Apple satellite
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weather in the WWDC code. Pure speculation at this point,
but yeah. Yeah.
Could it be a future feature fornewer iPhones?
Yeah. Maybe hinting at Apple trying to
compete more directly with Garmin in reach by offering more
satellite services beyond just SOS and basic texts.
Who knows? Interesting.
More Garmin in Reach news though, and this was highlighted
as a really positive change. They're letting accounts be
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suspended for up to 12 months free of charge now.
Yes, that's a huge relief for seasonal users, right?
People who don't want to pay that monthly fee all year round
probably came from user feedback.
Quick note on their SAR insurance though, the SAR 100
plus plans you can now only buy it if you're in the US or
Canada, but it still gives you worldwide coverage if you do buy
it there. Overwatch and Rescue was
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mentioned as an alternative SOS subscription service too.
OK, there was also a confusing note about in reach satellite
tracking now giving users the option to use Map share or Live
track which is the standard Garmin watch interface.
Right. And what's fascinating or maybe
confusing about that choice is could it be a hint?
Is Garmin developing a future satellite capable watch building
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in reach tech onto say an endurothree base?
Maybe in a smaller in reach mini3 type body with mapping NAV,
maybe even standard and plus options for voice or photo
sending? It's pure speculation, but that
little UI change sparked it. Interesting dots to connect
shifting slightly within Garmin.A leaked video about a sleep
(19:09):
tracking armband. Yeah, letting users get sleep
data without having to wear a watch overnight.
And their CEO mentioned tariffs could cost Garmin $100 million,
keeping options open on whether those costs get passed on to us,
the customers. Wow, just highlights the
business side, right? Global supply chains, trade
policies, R&D into new gadgets, it all affects the gear we use.
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Keen Footwear was noted as saying they won't pass on
tariffs in 2025. So that's a comparison point.
And a bit of controversy brewing, Garmin trails a new
paywalled service. Yeah, the source called this a
ballsy move. Essentially, it packages up and
resells user data, people's recorded hikes activities into a
commercial product, and Garmin is actively prompting users to
contribute all this data for free, which it then turns around
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and monetizes. That definitely raises some
questions about data ownership and privacy on these platforms.
It really does. Also in this section, software
was spotted suggesting a Google Maps integration with Garmin
might be coming, which feels like it should be simple when
paired with a phone. But the specific software hinted
at maybe a deeper integration plan.
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OK, other small but interesting Garmin watch features mentioned
adding pack weight to training effect.
So logging you're carrying 60 lbs actually changes how the
watch sees your effort. Yeah, and features like rocking.
And there was that great anecdote about a Garmin watch
surviving a super long journey lost in the Irish Sea.
Proof of ruggedness, I guess. Koros, another watchmaker.
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They've started a repair programme which is a good step
for sustainability. Definitely.
OK, let's transition now from tech and business to some really
critical safety information and sadly, some recent tragic events
highlighted in your sources. Yeah, this is important stuff.
The Grand Canyon heat related deaths and that report of 13
helicopter rescues in just one went.
It's just an incredible stark reminder of how dangerous that
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heat can be. And the Park Service warnings
about delayed help because staffare stretched thin and rescue
volume is so high. That's crucial for people to
understand. Absolutely, and the note
suggested that the closure of the river trail might actually
be pushing people onto more exposed, waterless rim to rim
routes, maybe increasing the risk even more.
And it's really disheartening toread that report about some
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visitors being rude about rescuedelays just highlights the
immense strain on those resources.
Yeah. Another heat death reported in
Arizona, An influencer apparently just underscores
taking heat seriously. The author even included a
personal example of changing plans because of lightning.
You have to adapt. And then the tragic exposure
deaths of a father and daughter hiking Mount Katahdin in Maine
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in June. That's such a powerful reminder
that even in summer, high mountains can still be deadly.
Cold, wet, windy conditions, combined preparedness,
understanding weather, having the right gear.
It's just non negotiable up there.
Absolutely. So bring other safety notes.
APCT closure in California during a search for a murder
suspect. Two people gored by bison and
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Yellowstone for getting too close.
Multiple waterfall deaths. East Coast and Olympic NP from
slipping near the edge. Yeah, just tragic reminders and
an unusual story from Spain mentioned a huge fine over
$200,000 for someone throwing a rock down a gorge where hikers
were below, real consequences for reckless behaviour, and a
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report of a grizzly following a hiker in Banff, though it
sounded like the bear was just using the trail.
Still unnerving. For sure.
OK moving to park and trail access management issues.
Glacier NP started a hiker shuttle to deal with
construction seen as a good idea.
Yeah, potentially useful in other busy parks too.
Also those more perfect union billboards popping up
highlighting potential negative impacts of budget cuts on park
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resources. And the author noted seeing
fewer visitors, especially overseas tourists at Bryce NP.
Maybe broader travel shifts happening.
The Interior Department is also floating the idea of charging
non Americans more for park entry.
And a definite warning note. A guide company, Weston Sier
Adventures, listed on Yosemite'sofficial approved page,
(23:05):
reportedly took payment but never actually provided a tour.
Oof, yeah, definitely buyer beware.
Do your research even if a company's officially listed
somewhere. Good advice.
On a more positive note. Shenandoah National Park is
growing by 50 acres and a new tribal National Park opened in
North Dakota, which was highlighted as really awesome, a
great step for indigenous management of public lands.
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That is good news. There's also a lawsuit in
California challenging junk feeson a recreation booking site
with Mady hopes this could lead to challenging the federal
recreation Gov sites permit application fees like that $6
fee just to apply even if you don't get the permit.
Yeah, access continues to be complicated.
The Chilkoot Trail, Alaska to Canada reopened, but
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unfortunately you still can't hike all the way across the
border. Ongoing issues since 2022
affecting that and also the northern end of the PCT.
OK, some other interesting outdoor bids.
USA TODAY listed its 10 Best Trails section Hiker has a new
book, Hiking Over 60 tips for olding hikers.
A company called Summit Something selling Leave No Trace
friendly Summit flags. Yep, and a story about John
(24:11):
McShane and his cool trash picker invention, but
highlighting how tariffs messed up his manufacturing plans.
Updates on Southern California fire closures and openings, an
arrest made about That Guy harassing hikers at the Mount
Baldy trailhead and the Heroes Project opening a gear shop Cafe
guide service at Ice House Canyon Trailhead supporting
veterans. Good stuff there.
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Mountain High Resort offering chairlift service for mountain
biking and Angeles NF now and a controversial BLM proposal for
mining at conglomerate Mesa, visible from Mount Whitney.
Yeah, Facing opposition. A documentary was recommended
explaining why it's seen as a bad idea.
OK. And finally, the notes
introduced the International Association of Search and Rescue
Coordinators, izark. Right Founded by a retired U.S.
(24:53):
Coast Guard SAR veteran, its mission is basically to
standardise search and rescue coordination globally.
And their core message. That lives are saved by a
system. It's not just the heroic folks
repelling from helicopters, but the whole complex system,
Talented people doing various jobs, pilots, medics, com
specialist and crucially the coordinators managing the whole
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operation from behind the scenes.
They advocate for those coordinators.
They need to improve competency and the whole science of SAR
worldwide. Wow.
OK, we have covered a massive amount of ground today from, you
know, cutting edge tech speculation like Apples maybe
solar watch and the nuances of their AI workout buddy to
Garmin's very practical edge updates and that really exciting
(25:38):
potential of timing gates for athletes like you.
And then that critical shift to essential safety reminders from
recent tragedies, changes in howwe access and manage our outdoor
spaces, and even the quiet controversies happening in
outdoor tech and business. Yeah, the pace of tech change
and fitness and the outdoors is just so rapid, isn't it?
Offering new tools, new data. But as we saw clearly with all
(25:59):
that safety news, the fundamental stuff, preparedness,
environmental awareness, respecting conditions, that
remains absolutely paramount. It's always a balance.
So here's a final thought for you, the listener, to consider
as you process all this. With technology offering us
increasingly sophisticated tools, you know, AI companions,
satellite links, automated tracking, how do we navigate
that balance between leveraging these cool advancements for
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performance and safety and maintaining those fundamental,
often low tech skills, that awareness, that self-sufficiency
that's just essential when you're really out there?
And alongside that, how do we weigh the increasing
commercialization, paywalls, data monetization, changing
access against those core valuesof community, shared
stewardship, Open Access that have kind of historically
(26:43):
defined the outdoor world? Definitely something to Mull
over as you plan your next adventure or workout.
Thanks so much for joining us for this deep dive.
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