June 20, 2024 • 29 mins
Episode Highlights:
CHSRA - Cascade Head Scenic Research Area turns 50 years old. Join Double R as he visits with Frank Boyden about the federal legislation adopted in the Ford administration which helped to preserve Cascade Head and led to the restoration of the Salmon River Estuary. Also Chief Operating Officer of Samaritan North Lincoln Hospital, Jennifer Will, joins the podcast along with Dr. Ogden.
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SPEAKER_03 (00:00):
Welcome
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to the Double R Show, the podcast that features
everything about North LincolnCounty.
The Double R Show directed andproduced by Paul Robertson and
hosted by the voice of LincolnCity, Roger Robertson.
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And again, welcome to a very special program,
number 52.
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Yeah, that makes a full deck of cards, right?
That's a full year's worth ofpodcasts.
Can you believe it?
Kind of can't, actually, becauseyou multiply that by, you know,
three plus interviews, you know,they've got 150 people that
we've interviewed basically overthe last year and just rolling
strong.
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In most of them, only one time.
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Yeah, yeah, mostly individuals.
Of course, we have some folksthat are reoccurring, you know,
Senator Anderson's been on acouple times, Representative And
Dr.
Ogden
SPEAKER_03 (01:02):
today will introduce us to the new Chief Operating
Officer of Samaritan North LigonHospital.
And we're going to dwell into 50years ago and Chesera.
SPEAKER_02 (01:14):
Yeah, it's another big year celebration, 50 this
time for the Cascade Head ScenicResearch Area, which turns 50
this year.
And there's a big celebration.
And we're going to hear fromFrank Boyden about all that.
And at the conclusion of theprogram, we will announce a
winner.
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SPEAKER_03 (02:41):
The word is Chesra.
Cascade Head Scenic ResearchArea started 50 years ago.
With us is Frank Boyden.
And Frank, you were there whenthis all got underway.
SPEAKER_05 (02:53):
Yeah, I was.
I was very fortunate.
I think that you only have a fewtimes in your life when you're
somewhere and can be a part ofsomething which then goes on for
so long in such a rich andreally wonderful way.
SPEAKER_03 (03:09):
Why?
Why did it start,
SPEAKER_05 (03:10):
Frank?
pretty simple, really.
The idea of it was very simple.
There was a man named MalcolmMontague, and he had grown up
here as a kid, and his parentshad a place out along the river,
out towards the mouth of theriver.
And as a child, he grew up here.
He fished, he hiked, and he wasreally good friends with a lot
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of the farmers and people, theold homesteaders, the people who
were still alive.
like the gentries who ownedCascade Head.
And anyway, at that time, thebureaucracy of the counties and
the state We're making all ofthe small farmers along the
river and, you know, not onlysalmon, but up on the Nistucka
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and Grit Trask and, you know,this and that.
They all had to switch into, youknow, new equipment for their
milk.
And it was very, very expensivefor them.
And, you know, they weren'tmaking much money to begin with,
and they only had a few cows.
So there was developers thatwere coming in on all of these
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rivers and on all of these smallfarms and you know the the
farmers just you know they hadno money you know their kids you
know didn't want to be chainedto a cow for the rest of their
lives right television wascoming in kids off they went and
so these these people who hadhad that way of life just
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disappeared basically and theysold their properties to
developers and that's whathappened along the salmon river
in the late 60s and mid to late60s.
And so Malcolm saw this, youknow, huge potential for
development along the north bankof the Salmon River.
And, you know, he was looking atthree, four hundred houses, you
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know.
Potential
SPEAKER_03 (05:12):
was limitless.
SPEAKER_05 (05:13):
Yeah, it was just, it was huge.
And then Cascade Head Ranch camein.
Michael Lowell started thatorganization, and he modeled it
after Sea Ranch down inCalifornia, which was a very
strongly environmental, probablythe most important environmental
development in the United Statesat that time.
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And he wanted to model thisdevelopment, the Cascade Head
Ranch development, after that.
So anyway, he had very loftygoals.
Right behind Malcolm's house,they made plans to build these
condominiums, and it was justtoo much for Malcolm, and he
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just thought, this is crazy,it's absolutely nuts.
And so he then went out andbegan to enlist the help of our
senators and...
SPEAKER_03 (06:08):
Get Packwood and Hadfield on board.
SPEAKER_05 (06:11):
Right.
So Jane and I had just come intothe Valley and had started Sitka
Center and...
We became very good friends withMalcolm, and he would come over
all the time.
We would have dinner with him.
He was a very successful lawyerin Portland.
And so Malcolm began to talkabout that, and we were part of
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that conversation.
We were just kids.
We didn't have any idea of howthat all...
you know, all the politics ofit.
So, you know, we were justinvolved, you know, with the
ideas that began to spring up inMalcolm's head about starting,
like, maybe in 70, 71.
We moved here in 1970.
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So he decided that the estuarywas...
Probably the most important partof this program.
And there hadn't been a lot ofindustrial, you know,
manipulation of the Salmon RiverEstuary.
Pixieland was there, and it wasa real mess.
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And then a lot of the marsheshad been diked.
And so Malcolm really wanted torestore the estuary as a single
estuary on the west coast of theUnited States.
The only one.
The only one.
And so that became...
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a major priority in what he wasafter.
Michael Lowell had sold in 1967,I believe it was, the grasslands
on Cascade Head to the NatureConservancy.
And so at that time, there was,I mean, it was just basically
word of mouth of people to hikeout there and have a really good
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time.
Not as known as it is today.
Yeah, and now there's about30,000 people that go out there.
And that has not helped thehead, but in any case, so...
So Malcolm had a really quite aclose friendship with Wendell
Wyatt and he got Wendell Wyattdown and then Hatfield and
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Packwood.
So Jane and I got to, you know,be involved with a lot of these
just early kind of dinners and,you know, just things like that
where people where people werediscussing how it all happened.
SPEAKER_03 (08:36):
Frank Boyden has been our guest.
How it all happened, where itstarted, where it is, and where
it is today.
We'll come back and take asecond look at where it is today
with Frank Boyden.
More in a moment.
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SPEAKER_03 (09:35):
Our guest on this podcast is Frank Boyden, and
we've been talking about thebeginnings of the Cascade Head
Scenic Research Area 50 yearsago.
And Frank, you gave us some ofthe historical background of how
this came to be.
Continue with what that meanstoday, if
SPEAKER_05 (09:55):
you will.
Yeah, I can do that, or I cantry to do that.
What transpired starting in, youknow, in 71, 72, 73 was that
there was a tremendous number ofpeople that came together to
promote this and try to figureout what kind of a designation
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this kind of proposal shouldhave.
And there was Wyatt andPackwood.
SPEAKER_03 (10:27):
Hatfield was
SPEAKER_05 (10:28):
involved.
And Hatfield.
They came in front of Congress.
And they proposed a newdesignation called the Scenic
Research Area, the Cascade HeadScenic Research Area, or what is
known today as CHESRA.
They involved all sorts ofscientists.
They involved the ForestService.
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They involved a lot of theresearchers that had been
working for years up on theseplots up on Cascade Head.
And they decided that they weregoing to make a federal
designation, a law, and it waspassed through Congress.
That could never happen again,or at least under our current
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situation that's just...
It's not going to be.
It's not going to happen.
One of the things that wasforemost in...
Pretty much everybody's mind wasto have a place where, as the
estuary was reconstructed overtime, scientists came in there
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and began to work, trying tofigure out how salt marshes
worked, how tidal influxesworked, you know, how anadromous
fish worked.
They tried to figure out howthese marshes happened.
A
SPEAKER_03 (11:49):
lot of learning.
SPEAKER_05 (11:50):
Yeah, it was a huge learning.
And it's still going on.
And so it was just a wondermentthat, you know, from my point of
view, and I think, again,through many, many people's, you
know, viewpoint, because itwasn't, you know, really
terribly well received by localpopulations.
SPEAKER_03 (12:11):
Oh, no, absolutely not.
There was a lot of opposition toit originally.
SPEAKER_05 (12:15):
And so the Forest Service came in and it was
mandated that they purchase, youknow, properties where they
could.
that they were given power ofcondemnation over the estuarine
lands, which never really gotused.
So anyway, what developed out ofthat has become of greater and
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greater and greater importanceto hundreds of thousands of
people that have used this, thathave come together and enjoyed
not only research, but alsoeducational programs that have
been going on there.
It became then part of aBiosphere, UN Biosphere Reserve.
And so it stands today assomething where through people's
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interactions with a space thathopefully will remain as
untouched as it is without beingchanged.
SPEAKER_03 (13:17):
It's a treasure that can't be changed.
SPEAKER_05 (13:20):
Yeah, yeah.
And we are so lucky today herein this area, you know, Lincoln
County, Tillamook County, toactually have something like
this.
It's, I mean, I think it'sreally a miracle.
SPEAKER_03 (13:36):
It still is amazing to me how forward-thinking some
people were that really savedsomething from austerity.
SPEAKER_05 (13:45):
Right.
And all of these people got onthe same train.
SPEAKER_03 (13:49):
True.
Eventually.
SPEAKER_05 (13:51):
Eventually.
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Eventually.
SPEAKER_05 (13:53):
So it's really a, it's a wondrous thing.
And it's 50 years old now.
And so there is a big movementby many people to come together
and have a celebratory thingthat's happening.
And so we have been able toinvite many of the scientists
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that were involved with, youknow, the estuary.
with the hydrology, all of this,bringing the people that
actually did the work on themarshes, people that were
involved with trying to enforcethe edict that was made, people
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from the Forest Service, peoplefrom the Biosphere Reserve,
people that are just involvedwith education.
SPEAKER_03 (14:48):
Education was probably the key to the whole
thing, though.
SPEAKER_05 (14:52):
Yeah, it was a key to the whole thing, how research
and education could change theway people look at the world.
And I think that that issomething that has happened to
massive numbers of people.
And I think a lot of very youngpeople have been affected by
that.
And where they can see that theycan step into a place that is
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kind of considered to besomething that they'll never
find again, maybe.
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SPEAKER_03 (15:50):
Dr.
Leslie Ogden from SamaritanNorth Lincoln Hospital and
Pacific Communities Hospital isjoining us next.
And you are into floats justlike Lincoln City.
SPEAKER_10 (16:02):
Yes, we have a special arrangement for
fundraising with floats.
And so what better way to marrywhat happens every summer in
Lincoln City.
We've actually got arelationship with Explore
Lincoln City.
and the Marie LanthromFoundation.
And it's the birthday of MarieLanthrom, 128 years.
(16:26):
So they are celebrating with,let's give away some money to
nonprofits on the coast.
And I think,
SPEAKER_03 (16:33):
Oh, here we are.
SPEAKER_10 (16:34):
Here we are.
Let's get some money.
So basically what they've doneis they have hidden a bunch of
different floats and each ofthem has a nonprofit from the
coast that is attached to it.
And when you find the float, andagain, these are hidden in all
the same places that floats areprimarily on the beach, you
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know, in all those places thatpeople go hunt for floats in the
first place.
But when they find one of thesefloats, It will indicate that
this is a special fundraisingfloat and that they should
report it because the firstfloat found is worth$10,000.
Say what?
Yes,$10,000 to the firstnonprofit entity that is
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attached to that float.
And then the second one is worth$5,000 and on and on and on and
on.
So there's a lot of money thatthe Marie Lantford Foundation is
giving to our coastalnonprofits.
So.
SPEAKER_03 (17:34):
How did you pick the nonprofits
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that will be participating?
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infusion area.
Oh, special.
Yeah, yeah.
Really use that money wisely andreally get some bang for our
buck for our cancer
SPEAKER_03 (18:12):
patients.
Congratulations.
What fun.
Now, you did bring another guestwith you as well, Jennifer Will.
Can you introduce Jennifer forus so we know a little bit more
about her?
SPEAKER_10 (18:23):
Yeah, Jennifer is fabulous.
She is sitting right here withus.
She is our new COO.
Many of you may have knownVirginia Riffle, who was here
for Yes.
Well, Virginia finally retired.
Not that we encouraged her atall, but she retired and we are
very excited that Jennifer ishere with us.
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She's now our COO and has doneall of the turnover.
And I brought her along so shecould talk a little bit in her,
what I call her soft, butteryvoice out there to introduce
herself.
SPEAKER_01 (19:00):
Please.
SPEAKER_08 (19:01):
Yeah.
Well, thank you so much, Leslie.
So again, I am Jennifer Will,and just a little bit about me.
So I have worked with Samaritanfor six years this month, so
maybe I'll get an anniversarygift.
I like
SPEAKER_03 (19:16):
that.
Maybe you last float.
SPEAKER_08 (19:18):
Yeah, maybe I'll get a float, yeah.
So I've been with Samaritan forsix years, and I started
actually in Newport.
So I started there as thedirector of operations for
specialty clinics and primarycare, and quickly moved into an
AVP role for the coast.
So that was AVP, Associate VicePresident of Clinics.
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And so I had Waldport to LincolnCity Territory.
And then we had this COVIDevent.
I think we've all heard of that.
Yeah.
And so with that, there was aneed for some change.
And so that change really wasputting me into more of a
service line position.
So I became the AVP, AssociateVice President of Medical
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medical specialties andbehavioral health.
So I did that for about four anda half years now.
And so, and I'm so unbelievablyfortunate to come back to the
coast and be here in this role.
So I'm just excited to be inthis new facility.
And also you'll get to meetKirsten later, but to work with
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Kirsten and to work with Leslieagain and in this community.
So that's just a little bitabout me.
Prior to that, I just wanted toshare too that I I did work for
Samaritan in 2009 and 2010.
So you're not
SPEAKER_03 (20:38):
new to the corporation?
SPEAKER_08 (20:40):
No, no, I came back.
So I worked here and I actuallyworked in Lincoln City.
In the
SPEAKER_03 (20:46):
old hospital?
SPEAKER_08 (20:47):
In the old hospital, yes, the wooden building, yes.
And so I worked there and livedhere in Lincoln City and then
left over to Eugene and workedat PeaceHealth for about seven
years and came back because myhusband and I were sitting at
the restaurant, the Thairestaurant, and I could see the
the hospital being built.
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And I said to John, I said, Iwant to work back at Samaritan.
And so, and here I am.
So.
SPEAKER_03 (21:16):
What's your biggest challenge is coming into the
position?
SPEAKER_08 (21:19):
You know, the biggest challenge for me would
probably be more hospitaloperations.
Most of my background is inclinics and clinician
relationships and contracts.
So really just learning all therules and regs that are related
to hospitals.
But to be honest, and I don'twant to sound like I'm, you
know, feeling Like I'm full ofmyself, but it's not been as
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difficult from that perspectiveas I thought, because it's a
team.
It's all about a team.
And I have wonderful people thatwill help me and I can navigate
through the system with therelationships that I have.
But also going back tofinancials, there's all this
pressure on health care rightnow.
you know, the prices ofeverything, labor included, are
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increasing, but thereimbursements for the
insurances are not.
So trying to look at ways thatwe can be very innovative, think
outside the box, and how we cancontinue the care that we really
pride ourselves in, especiallyhere at North Lincoln, just
going to put that plug in there,and making sure that we find
ways to deliver that.
And so, and I think that's thebiggest challenge for me
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personally right now.
SPEAKER_03 (22:25):
Very good.
Jennifer Wild, the new ChiefOperating Officer for us We're
at the North Lincoln Hospital,and the good Dr.
Leslie Ogden has been with us onthe podcast.
We'll take a break in more in amoment.
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And 50 years later, we're backat it again.
Chesra, you've got a lot ofactivities that you're tied into
as well, right, Paul?
SPEAKER_02 (23:13):
Right, yeah.
So on June 29th is going to bethe big celebration there at the
Cascade Head ExperimentalForest.
It's Saturday from 11 to 2, andwe're going to have speakers,
we're going to have a film, andit's going to be a big event.
Get lunch out there as well, sofor folks.
SPEAKER_03 (23:30):
I was here when this all began, but it was great to
have Frank come on and bring usfrom the historical perspective
to what it is today.
SPEAKER_02 (23:40):
Right, yeah, and we're looking forward to another
50
SPEAKER_03 (23:42):
years.
Another 50 years of helpingMother Earth.
And we'd also like to Remindyou, Touch the Truck is upcoming
June 22 at Curses Park.
And we talked about this lastweek, 75th birthday celebration
for Curses Park.
75 years for the park.
SPEAKER_02 (23:59):
Yeah, that's pretty great.
Older than Lincoln City itself.
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The Glenning Beach 4th of July Parade, I'm happy to
say, is back.
This is going to be just a kick.
And to get involved in theparade, call Warren Ryland at
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SPEAKER_02 (24:18):
And we're going to have him on next episode, I
think.
SPEAKER_03 (24:20):
Next episode, he'll be here and talk about the 4th
of July Parade out in GlidingBeach.
It is American-ish at itsabsolute best.
SPEAKER_02 (24:29):
It is indeed.
SPEAKER_03 (24:30):
Now, we do have a winner to announce.
And we had a question that Paulshook his head at because we
know it's going to be truebecause it was on Facebook.
And what is the most isolatedcity in...
And what
SPEAKER_02 (24:46):
is
SPEAKER_03 (24:47):
that most isolated city?
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close
SPEAKER_02 (25:15):
to
SPEAKER_03 (25:15):
Malta.
But it's close to Malta.
70 miles.
And why is Malta important?
SPEAKER_02 (25:20):
Oh, it's just the best place to be born.
SPEAKER_03 (25:21):
And we're not talking about the island.
We also got some thank yous.
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Yeah, we wanted to give a shout out to all of our
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We started this program thisyear and basically what it is is
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And we have a lot of reoccurringfolks that participate.
We have a donut club member,which is a dollar a month, and
Georgia Roloff joined at thatlevel.
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And then we have theold-fashioned donut, which, of
course, is your favorite.
Yes.
That$5 a month provided by anumber of folks.
Our first one, Margarita Feralesout of San Diego, was our first
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Isn't that neat?
Yeah, and then Shelley Stewart,Andrea Svetsen, David Jameson,
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Okay.
And then at the top of the list,we have our baker's dozen,
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which, of course, is$13 a month.
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And then there's one other wayto donate, too, and that's just
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And Roger Sprague has given youfive donuts.
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Now, the significance to that is a lot of
the money gets contributed backto non-profits.
We pick how?
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Yeah, so 20% of the net profits go back to to a
local nonprofit, and those areall selected by the Baker's
Dozen, or nominated by theBaker's Dozens group, and then
voted on by the whole membershipof the Double R Show Donor Club.
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And that can get to be substantial cash.
SPEAKER_02 (26:58):
Well, we hope to, yeah.
I mean, we've got so many peoplethat are joined in, and the
first time we got a check, itwas to the Lincoln City, Friends
of the Lincoln City Parks andRec.
So that was the first nonprofitthat received some funding.
And if people are interested injoining the cause here...
supporting the program andsupporting some non-profit, just
go to our website,doublershow.com and buy me a
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Buy me a donut.
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And those people will be getting an email from us
shortly to make theirnominations.
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Yeah, we'll get out another set of emails to these
folks and pick a new winner forthis next batch of funding.
SPEAKER_03 (27:35):
Speaking of winners, did we announce who the winner
is who had the right answer forour question as to the most
isolated city?
I don't
SPEAKER_02 (27:44):
I don't think you did.
I don't think I did either.
We're moving too fast here.
SPEAKER_03 (27:47):
Sarah Lloyd.
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But$30, Sarah Lloyd, you willget that shortly.
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She works for Josh Santillo, avery active member of the
Lincoln City Kiwanis Club.
Sarah, thank you much.
She was surprised as well.
She thought it should have beensomeplace in Alaska, but it
turned out to be Glasgow,Montana.
Anything else to your side ofthe table?
No,
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I think we're clear from here.
Thank you.
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And again, welcome to a very special program,
number 52.
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Yeah, that makes a full deck of cards, right?
That's a full year's worth ofpodcasts.
Can you believe it?
Kind of can't, actually, becauseyou multiply that by, you know,
three plus interviews, you know,they've got 150 people that
we've interviewed basically overthe last year and just rolling
strong.
SPEAKER_03 (00:51):
In most of them, only one time.
SPEAKER_02 (00:53):
Yeah, yeah, mostly individuals.
Of course, we have some folksthat are reoccurring, you know,
Senator Anderson's been on acouple times, Representative And
Dr.
Ogden
SPEAKER_03 (01:02):
today will introduce us to the new Chief Operating
Officer of Samaritan North LigonHospital.
And we're going to dwell into 50years ago and Chesera.
SPEAKER_02 (01:14):
Yeah, it's another big year celebration, 50 this
time for the Cascade Head ScenicResearch Area, which turns 50
this year.
And there's a big celebration.
And we're going to hear fromFrank Boyden about all that.
And at the conclusion of theprogram, we will announce a
winner.
Yes, we will.
Yeah, so the big winner for thelast episode and also some
gratitude to share for all ofour Double R Show Donut Club
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SPEAKER_03 (02:41):
The word is Chesra.
Cascade Head Scenic ResearchArea started 50 years ago.
With us is Frank Boyden.
And Frank, you were there whenthis all got underway.
SPEAKER_05 (02:53):
Yeah, I was.
I was very fortunate.
I think that you only have a fewtimes in your life when you're
somewhere and can be a part ofsomething which then goes on for
so long in such a rich andreally wonderful way.
SPEAKER_03 (03:09):
Why?
Why did it start,
SPEAKER_05 (03:10):
Frank?
pretty simple, really.
The idea of it was very simple.
There was a man named MalcolmMontague, and he had grown up
here as a kid, and his parentshad a place out along the river,
out towards the mouth of theriver.
And as a child, he grew up here.
He fished, he hiked, and he wasreally good friends with a lot
(03:36):
of the farmers and people, theold homesteaders, the people who
were still alive.
like the gentries who ownedCascade Head.
And anyway, at that time, thebureaucracy of the counties and
the state We're making all ofthe small farmers along the
river and, you know, not onlysalmon, but up on the Nistucka
(04:01):
and Grit Trask and, you know,this and that.
They all had to switch into, youknow, new equipment for their
milk.
And it was very, very expensivefor them.
And, you know, they weren'tmaking much money to begin with,
and they only had a few cows.
So there was developers thatwere coming in on all of these
(04:24):
rivers and on all of these smallfarms and you know the the
farmers just you know they hadno money you know their kids you
know didn't want to be chainedto a cow for the rest of their
lives right television wascoming in kids off they went and
so these these people who hadhad that way of life just
(04:46):
disappeared basically and theysold their properties to
developers and that's whathappened along the salmon river
in the late 60s and mid to late60s.
And so Malcolm saw this, youknow, huge potential for
development along the north bankof the Salmon River.
And, you know, he was looking atthree, four hundred houses, you
(05:11):
know.
Potential
SPEAKER_03 (05:12):
was limitless.
SPEAKER_05 (05:13):
Yeah, it was just, it was huge.
And then Cascade Head Ranch camein.
Michael Lowell started thatorganization, and he modeled it
after Sea Ranch down inCalifornia, which was a very
strongly environmental, probablythe most important environmental
development in the United Statesat that time.
(05:35):
And he wanted to model thisdevelopment, the Cascade Head
Ranch development, after that.
So anyway, he had very loftygoals.
Right behind Malcolm's house,they made plans to build these
condominiums, and it was justtoo much for Malcolm, and he
(05:55):
just thought, this is crazy,it's absolutely nuts.
And so he then went out andbegan to enlist the help of our
senators and...
SPEAKER_03 (06:08):
Get Packwood and Hadfield on board.
SPEAKER_05 (06:11):
Right.
So Jane and I had just come intothe Valley and had started Sitka
Center and...
We became very good friends withMalcolm, and he would come over
all the time.
We would have dinner with him.
He was a very successful lawyerin Portland.
And so Malcolm began to talkabout that, and we were part of
(06:34):
that conversation.
We were just kids.
We didn't have any idea of howthat all...
you know, all the politics ofit.
So, you know, we were justinvolved, you know, with the
ideas that began to spring up inMalcolm's head about starting,
like, maybe in 70, 71.
We moved here in 1970.
(06:55):
So he decided that the estuarywas...
Probably the most important partof this program.
And there hadn't been a lot ofindustrial, you know,
manipulation of the Salmon RiverEstuary.
Pixieland was there, and it wasa real mess.
(07:16):
And then a lot of the marsheshad been diked.
And so Malcolm really wanted torestore the estuary as a single
estuary on the west coast of theUnited States.
The only one.
The only one.
And so that became...
(07:37):
a major priority in what he wasafter.
Michael Lowell had sold in 1967,I believe it was, the grasslands
on Cascade Head to the NatureConservancy.
And so at that time, there was,I mean, it was just basically
word of mouth of people to hikeout there and have a really good
(08:00):
time.
Not as known as it is today.
Yeah, and now there's about30,000 people that go out there.
And that has not helped thehead, but in any case, so...
So Malcolm had a really quite aclose friendship with Wendell
Wyatt and he got Wendell Wyattdown and then Hatfield and
(08:21):
Packwood.
So Jane and I got to, you know,be involved with a lot of these
just early kind of dinners and,you know, just things like that
where people where people werediscussing how it all happened.
SPEAKER_03 (08:36):
Frank Boyden has been our guest.
How it all happened, where itstarted, where it is, and where
it is today.
We'll come back and take asecond look at where it is today
with Frank Boyden.
More in a moment.
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SPEAKER_03 (09:35):
Our guest on this podcast is Frank Boyden, and
we've been talking about thebeginnings of the Cascade Head
Scenic Research Area 50 yearsago.
And Frank, you gave us some ofthe historical background of how
this came to be.
Continue with what that meanstoday, if
SPEAKER_05 (09:55):
you will.
Yeah, I can do that, or I cantry to do that.
What transpired starting in, youknow, in 71, 72, 73 was that
there was a tremendous number ofpeople that came together to
promote this and try to figureout what kind of a designation
(10:18):
this kind of proposal shouldhave.
And there was Wyatt andPackwood.
SPEAKER_03 (10:27):
Hatfield was
SPEAKER_05 (10:28):
involved.
And Hatfield.
They came in front of Congress.
And they proposed a newdesignation called the Scenic
Research Area, the Cascade HeadScenic Research Area, or what is
known today as CHESRA.
They involved all sorts ofscientists.
They involved the ForestService.
(10:50):
They involved a lot of theresearchers that had been
working for years up on theseplots up on Cascade Head.
And they decided that they weregoing to make a federal
designation, a law, and it waspassed through Congress.
That could never happen again,or at least under our current
(11:13):
situation that's just...
It's not going to be.
It's not going to happen.
One of the things that wasforemost in...
Pretty much everybody's mind wasto have a place where, as the
estuary was reconstructed overtime, scientists came in there
(11:34):
and began to work, trying tofigure out how salt marshes
worked, how tidal influxesworked, you know, how anadromous
fish worked.
They tried to figure out howthese marshes happened.
A
SPEAKER_03 (11:49):
lot of learning.
SPEAKER_05 (11:50):
Yeah, it was a huge learning.
And it's still going on.
And so it was just a wondermentthat, you know, from my point of
view, and I think, again,through many, many people's, you
know, viewpoint, because itwasn't, you know, really
terribly well received by localpopulations.
SPEAKER_03 (12:11):
Oh, no, absolutely not.
There was a lot of opposition toit originally.
SPEAKER_05 (12:15):
And so the Forest Service came in and it was
mandated that they purchase, youknow, properties where they
could.
that they were given power ofcondemnation over the estuarine
lands, which never really gotused.
So anyway, what developed out ofthat has become of greater and
(12:39):
greater and greater importanceto hundreds of thousands of
people that have used this, thathave come together and enjoyed
not only research, but alsoeducational programs that have
been going on there.
It became then part of aBiosphere, UN Biosphere Reserve.
And so it stands today assomething where through people's
(13:06):
interactions with a space thathopefully will remain as
untouched as it is without beingchanged.
SPEAKER_03 (13:17):
It's a treasure that can't be changed.
SPEAKER_05 (13:20):
Yeah, yeah.
And we are so lucky today herein this area, you know, Lincoln
County, Tillamook County, toactually have something like
this.
It's, I mean, I think it'sreally a miracle.
SPEAKER_03 (13:36):
It still is amazing to me how forward-thinking some
people were that really savedsomething from austerity.
SPEAKER_05 (13:45):
Right.
And all of these people got onthe same train.
SPEAKER_03 (13:49):
True.
Eventually.
SPEAKER_05 (13:51):
Eventually.
UNKNOWN (13:52):
Eventually.
SPEAKER_05 (13:53):
So it's really a, it's a wondrous thing.
And it's 50 years old now.
And so there is a big movementby many people to come together
and have a celebratory thingthat's happening.
And so we have been able toinvite many of the scientists
(14:15):
that were involved with, youknow, the estuary.
with the hydrology, all of this,bringing the people that
actually did the work on themarshes, people that were
involved with trying to enforcethe edict that was made, people
(14:40):
from the Forest Service, peoplefrom the Biosphere Reserve,
people that are just involvedwith education.
SPEAKER_03 (14:48):
Education was probably the key to the whole
thing, though.
SPEAKER_05 (14:52):
Yeah, it was a key to the whole thing, how research
and education could change theway people look at the world.
And I think that that issomething that has happened to
massive numbers of people.
And I think a lot of very youngpeople have been affected by
that.
And where they can see that theycan step into a place that is
(15:14):
kind of considered to besomething that they'll never
find again, maybe.
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SPEAKER_03 (15:50):
Dr.
Leslie Ogden from SamaritanNorth Lincoln Hospital and
Pacific Communities Hospital isjoining us next.
And you are into floats justlike Lincoln City.
SPEAKER_10 (16:02):
Yes, we have a special arrangement for
fundraising with floats.
And so what better way to marrywhat happens every summer in
Lincoln City.
We've actually got arelationship with Explore
Lincoln City.
and the Marie LanthromFoundation.
And it's the birthday of MarieLanthrom, 128 years.
(16:26):
So they are celebrating with,let's give away some money to
nonprofits on the coast.
And I think,
SPEAKER_03 (16:33):
Oh, here we are.
SPEAKER_10 (16:34):
Here we are.
Let's get some money.
So basically what they've doneis they have hidden a bunch of
different floats and each ofthem has a nonprofit from the
coast that is attached to it.
And when you find the float, andagain, these are hidden in all
the same places that floats areprimarily on the beach, you
(16:56):
know, in all those places thatpeople go hunt for floats in the
first place.
But when they find one of thesefloats, It will indicate that
this is a special fundraisingfloat and that they should
report it because the firstfloat found is worth$10,000.
Say what?
Yes,$10,000 to the firstnonprofit entity that is
(17:21):
attached to that float.
And then the second one is worth$5,000 and on and on and on and
on.
So there's a lot of money thatthe Marie Lantford Foundation is
giving to our coastalnonprofits.
So.
SPEAKER_03 (17:34):
How did you pick the nonprofits
SPEAKER_10 (17:42):
that will be participating?
(18:04):
infusion area.
Oh, special.
Yeah, yeah.
Really use that money wisely andreally get some bang for our
buck for our cancer
SPEAKER_03 (18:12):
patients.
Congratulations.
What fun.
Now, you did bring another guestwith you as well, Jennifer Will.
Can you introduce Jennifer forus so we know a little bit more
about her?
SPEAKER_10 (18:23):
Yeah, Jennifer is fabulous.
She is sitting right here withus.
She is our new COO.
Many of you may have knownVirginia Riffle, who was here
for Yes.
Well, Virginia finally retired.
Not that we encouraged her atall, but she retired and we are
very excited that Jennifer ishere with us.
(18:46):
She's now our COO and has doneall of the turnover.
And I brought her along so shecould talk a little bit in her,
what I call her soft, butteryvoice out there to introduce
herself.
SPEAKER_01 (19:00):
Please.
SPEAKER_08 (19:01):
Yeah.
Well, thank you so much, Leslie.
So again, I am Jennifer Will,and just a little bit about me.
So I have worked with Samaritanfor six years this month, so
maybe I'll get an anniversarygift.
I like
SPEAKER_03 (19:16):
that.
Maybe you last float.
SPEAKER_08 (19:18):
Yeah, maybe I'll get a float, yeah.
So I've been with Samaritan forsix years, and I started
actually in Newport.
So I started there as thedirector of operations for
specialty clinics and primarycare, and quickly moved into an
AVP role for the coast.
So that was AVP, Associate VicePresident of Clinics.
(19:41):
And so I had Waldport to LincolnCity Territory.
And then we had this COVIDevent.
I think we've all heard of that.
Yeah.
And so with that, there was aneed for some change.
And so that change really wasputting me into more of a
service line position.
So I became the AVP, AssociateVice President of Medical
(20:03):
medical specialties andbehavioral health.
So I did that for about four anda half years now.
And so, and I'm so unbelievablyfortunate to come back to the
coast and be here in this role.
So I'm just excited to be inthis new facility.
And also you'll get to meetKirsten later, but to work with
(20:24):
Kirsten and to work with Leslieagain and in this community.
So that's just a little bitabout me.
Prior to that, I just wanted toshare too that I I did work for
Samaritan in 2009 and 2010.
So you're not
SPEAKER_03 (20:38):
new to the corporation?
SPEAKER_08 (20:40):
No, no, I came back.
So I worked here and I actuallyworked in Lincoln City.
In the
SPEAKER_03 (20:46):
old hospital?
SPEAKER_08 (20:47):
In the old hospital, yes, the wooden building, yes.
And so I worked there and livedhere in Lincoln City and then
left over to Eugene and workedat PeaceHealth for about seven
years and came back because myhusband and I were sitting at
the restaurant, the Thairestaurant, and I could see the
the hospital being built.
(21:09):
And I said to John, I said, Iwant to work back at Samaritan.
And so, and here I am.
So.
SPEAKER_03 (21:16):
What's your biggest challenge is coming into the
position?
SPEAKER_08 (21:19):
You know, the biggest challenge for me would
probably be more hospitaloperations.
Most of my background is inclinics and clinician
relationships and contracts.
So really just learning all therules and regs that are related
to hospitals.
But to be honest, and I don'twant to sound like I'm, you
know, feeling Like I'm full ofmyself, but it's not been as
(21:40):
difficult from that perspectiveas I thought, because it's a
team.
It's all about a team.
And I have wonderful people thatwill help me and I can navigate
through the system with therelationships that I have.
But also going back tofinancials, there's all this
pressure on health care rightnow.
you know, the prices ofeverything, labor included, are
(22:01):
increasing, but thereimbursements for the
insurances are not.
So trying to look at ways thatwe can be very innovative, think
outside the box, and how we cancontinue the care that we really
pride ourselves in, especiallyhere at North Lincoln, just
going to put that plug in there,and making sure that we find
ways to deliver that.
And so, and I think that's thebiggest challenge for me
(22:24):
personally right now.
SPEAKER_03 (22:25):
Very good.
Jennifer Wild, the new ChiefOperating Officer for us We're
at the North Lincoln Hospital,and the good Dr.
Leslie Ogden has been with us onthe podcast.
We'll take a break in more in amoment.
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And 50 years later, we're backat it again.
Chesra, you've got a lot ofactivities that you're tied into
as well, right, Paul?
SPEAKER_02 (23:13):
Right, yeah.
So on June 29th is going to bethe big celebration there at the
Cascade Head ExperimentalForest.
It's Saturday from 11 to 2, andwe're going to have speakers,
we're going to have a film, andit's going to be a big event.
Get lunch out there as well, sofor folks.
SPEAKER_03 (23:30):
I was here when this all began, but it was great to
have Frank come on and bring usfrom the historical perspective
to what it is today.
SPEAKER_02 (23:40):
Right, yeah, and we're looking forward to another
50
SPEAKER_03 (23:42):
years.
Another 50 years of helpingMother Earth.
And we'd also like to Remindyou, Touch the Truck is upcoming
June 22 at Curses Park.
And we talked about this lastweek, 75th birthday celebration
for Curses Park.
75 years for the park.
SPEAKER_02 (23:59):
Yeah, that's pretty great.
Older than Lincoln City itself.
SPEAKER_03 (24:03):
The Glenning Beach 4th of July Parade, I'm happy to
say, is back.
This is going to be just a kick.
And to get involved in theparade, call Warren Ryland at
area code 971-230-8230.
SPEAKER_02 (24:18):
And we're going to have him on next episode, I
think.
SPEAKER_03 (24:20):
Next episode, he'll be here and talk about the 4th
of July Parade out in GlidingBeach.
It is American-ish at itsabsolute best.
SPEAKER_02 (24:29):
It is indeed.
SPEAKER_03 (24:30):
Now, we do have a winner to announce.
And we had a question that Paulshook his head at because we
know it's going to be truebecause it was on Facebook.
And what is the most isolatedcity in...
And what
SPEAKER_02 (24:46):
is
SPEAKER_03 (24:47):
that most isolated city?
(25:14):
close
SPEAKER_02 (25:15):
to
SPEAKER_03 (25:15):
Malta.
But it's close to Malta.
70 miles.
And why is Malta important?
SPEAKER_02 (25:20):
Oh, it's just the best place to be born.
SPEAKER_03 (25:21):
And we're not talking about the island.
We also got some thank yous.
SPEAKER_02 (25:27):
Yeah, we wanted to give a shout out to all of our
Double R Show Donut Clubmembers.
We started this program thisyear and basically what it is is
it's like a monthly donation ora one-time donation that you can
make to the program.
And we have a lot of reoccurringfolks that participate.
We have a donut club member,which is a dollar a month, and
Georgia Roloff joined at thatlevel.
(25:49):
And then we have theold-fashioned donut, which, of
course, is your favorite.
Yes.
That$5 a month provided by anumber of folks.
Our first one, Margarita Feralesout of San Diego, was our first
member.
Isn't that neat?
Yeah, and then Shelley Stewart,Andrea Svetsen, David Jameson,
Duncan Berry, Hugh Price, andCheryl Smith-McKee.
Okay.
And then at the top of the list,we have our baker's dozen,
(26:11):
which, of course, is$13 a month.
And Susan Gomber Dave Price,Jeannie Sprague, and Keith and
Betsy Altomare have all joinedat that level, and we just thank
everyone for all of theirdonations.
And then there's one other wayto donate, too, and that's just
to buy just a donut, one-offdonut, or five donuts, as the
case may be.
And Roger Sprague has given youfive donuts.
SPEAKER_03 (26:34):
Now, the significance to that is a lot of
the money gets contributed backto non-profits.
We pick how?
SPEAKER_02 (26:41):
Yeah, so 20% of the net profits go back to to a
local nonprofit, and those areall selected by the Baker's
Dozen, or nominated by theBaker's Dozens group, and then
voted on by the whole membershipof the Double R Show Donor Club.
SPEAKER_03 (26:55):
And that can get to be substantial cash.
SPEAKER_02 (26:58):
Well, we hope to, yeah.
I mean, we've got so many peoplethat are joined in, and the
first time we got a check, itwas to the Lincoln City, Friends
of the Lincoln City Parks andRec.
So that was the first nonprofitthat received some funding.
And if people are interested injoining the cause here...
supporting the program andsupporting some non-profit, just
go to our website,doublershow.com and buy me a
(27:20):
donut.
Buy me a donut.
SPEAKER_03 (27:22):
And those people will be getting an email from us
shortly to make theirnominations.
SPEAKER_02 (27:28):
Yeah, we'll get out another set of emails to these
folks and pick a new winner forthis next batch of funding.
SPEAKER_03 (27:35):
Speaking of winners, did we announce who the winner
is who had the right answer forour question as to the most
isolated city?
I don't
SPEAKER_02 (27:44):
I don't think you did.
I don't think I did either.
We're moving too fast here.
SPEAKER_03 (27:47):
Sarah Lloyd.
Sarah Lloyd wins a giftcertificate from Chinook Wins
Casino Resort.
It's a$30 food outlet giftcertificate.
It can be used towards in thebuffet, in the Rogue River Room,
over at the hotel.
Lots of different dining venues.
But$30, Sarah Lloyd, you willget that shortly.
(28:08):
She works for Josh Santillo, avery active member of the
Lincoln City Kiwanis Club.
Sarah, thank you much.
She was surprised as well.
She thought it should have beensomeplace in Alaska, but it
turned out to be Glasgow,Montana.
Anything else to your side ofthe table?
No,
SPEAKER_02 (28:25):
I think we're clear from here.
Thank you.
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Program number?
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