October 31, 2024 • 27 mins
Episode Highlights: Golden years bring golden honey and change on this weeks’ podcast. Double R hears about changes in bee colonies and changes to Medicare. Plus longtime (50 Years) resident weighs in on his golden years after a life of coins and fishing.
Guests include:
- John Peterson, Bee Keeper
- Chet Gardener, Retired Charter Fisherman and Shop Keeper
- Charlotte Lehto, Medicare and Insurance Expert
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SPEAKER_10 (00:00):
Welcome
SPEAKER_03 (00:07):
to the Double R Show, the podcast that features
everything about North LincolnCounty.
The Double R Show directed andproduced by Paul Robertson and
hosted by the voice of LincolnCity, Roger Robertson.
SPEAKER_10 (00:30):
Honey in the morning, honey in the evening,
honey at suppertime.
John Peterson is going to joinus and talk about bees and
honey, Paul.
SPEAKER_06 (00:39):
Yeah, I was just really impressed with this
interview.
I think people are really goingto enjoy it.
I learned a lot about bees thatI had no idea about.
The number of bees that turnover in the colony, just all
sorts of really greatinformation.
SPEAKER_10 (00:50):
It is amazing, 50,000 bees in one colony.
SPEAKER_06 (00:54):
Yeah, per colony, right.
Honeybees, of course, the goodkind, which we want, the big
pollinators of the world.
So yeah, yeah, great to have himon the episode.
SPEAKER_10 (01:04):
And we'll also talk to Chad Gardner.
We'll talk about his time in theservice and his time in Lincoln
City.
And then Charlotte Lathoe isgoing to be on board because
there are some changes inMedicare insurance.
And people, seniors, you need tohear what Charlotte's got to say
because it is for your ownbenefit.
We'll do that and more rightafter this.
SPEAKER_05 (01:27):
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handled by one agency?
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Insurance Store.
Visit our office next to theWildflower Grill in Lincoln
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Let us be your one stop for yourpersonal, commercial, health,
and Medicare insurance needs.
SPEAKER_02 (01:44):
Bob's Beach Books in the Ocean Lake area of Lincoln
City does in fact have whatyou'll want to read.
I'm Diana Portwood, and if wehappen to be out of a particular
bestseller, in a day or twowe'll have it back in the store
waiting for you.
Bob's Beach Books, you can jointhe conversation.
SPEAKER_10 (01:57):
Honey in the morning, honey in the evening,
honey at suppertime.
With me is John Peterson, andyou are the keeper of the bees
in the
SPEAKER_09 (02:04):
area, right John?
I'm sure that there are quite afew beekeepers in Lincoln
County, but yes, I happen to beone of them in the area.
How did you get into that?
About six years ago when I wasgetting ready to retire from my
job at the time, one of myPartners suggested I needed to
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come up with a useful hobby andsuggested that I consider
raising honeybees to fill thetime, helping me get started
with ordering up some honeybeesand getting the appropriate
equipment.
And the rest has just continuedto grow from that.
SPEAKER_10 (02:40):
When you talk about equipment, what kind of
equipment are you talking about,John?
SPEAKER_09 (02:44):
Basically, you have to have boxes to provide the
hives or a home where the beesare going to live and be able to
store the pollen and nectar thatthey collect to keep themselves
alive.
And so you've got boxes thathave frames in them, and the
frames are where the bees willcreate the wax cells.
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And then in the wax cells, theystore pollen and honey, and
that's where the baby bees areraised and then grow from that.
SPEAKER_10 (03:16):
Now, talking about baby bees, before we went on
with the interview, you weretalking about the number of
babies the queen bee will...
SPEAKER_09 (03:27):
Lay each day?
Mated queen will typically laybetween 1,000, 1,500 eggs every
day.
That's phenomenal.
Extremely phenomenal.
And the fact is that thehoneybee has a life of
approximately 45 days, sothere's a constant turnover in
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the population of the hives.
So once the queen has beenmated, her sole job is just
laying eggs that are...
tend to grow out into new
SPEAKER_10 (03:58):
bees.
Okay, now that we're coming intothe fall, the winter is not far
behind.
What do you do with the beehivesand the bees in the
SPEAKER_09 (04:07):
wintertime?
Typically, into the fall, whatwill happen is the population
will diminish from itssummertime hive, around 50,000
bees in each beehive.
The queen will start producingfewer eggs, and the bees will
concentrate on making sure thatthey have enough pollen and
honey store up to get themthrough the winter.
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As a beekeeper, part of myresponsibility is to make sure
that if there's medicationsnecessary to keep them healthy,
to avoid any diseases, thatthey're provided with that.
And also, beekeepers typicallywill provide supplemental syrup
feedings to the bees until theygo into their state of
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hibernation for the wintermonths, which around here
typically begins to occur aroundthe beginning of November.
So when they go intohibernation, are they totally
gone for the winter?
Not at all.
They will reside inside thehive.
The population will diminish tosomewhere between 8,000 or 9,000
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bees and the queen.
And they will work atmaintaining a core temperature
of around 90 to 95 degreesinside the hive and just
continue to keep themselves fedoff the food and pollen stores
that they have accumulated andget them through the rainy
season that we have here on theOregon coast and take turns
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going out and helping themselvesto their stores of pollen and
honey and bring it back and feedthe queen and make sure that the
hive continues.
Talk
SPEAKER_10 (05:49):
a little bit about harvesting the honey out of the
hives.
That's going to be a trick toitself.
SPEAKER_09 (05:55):
A beekeeper will work with these bees to make
sure that, first of all, thatthey have have stored up enough
of their own supply of pollenand honey to get them through
the year.
And typically, that will beapproximately 60 pounds.
again, a combination of honeyand pollen.
Once the beekeeper is assuredthat the bees have enough of
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their own supplies, then thebeekeeper can put on an extra
box with frames.
And those empty frames then arewhat the bees will begin just
storing honey.
And that's the honey then, thesurplus honey, that the
beekeeper can go ahead and helpthemselves to without the
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detriment of the hives.
Each of the frames that's insideof one of those boxes has about
3,500 cells on it.
And the wax cells are where thebees will store nectar, which
then it converted to honey.
And then the beekeeper takeseach one of those frames and
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will open up the wax cappingsthat the bees have placed over
each of the cells and extractthe honey.
And typically you use acentrifuge type device, an
extractor, which spins out theliquid honey.
Liquid honey then is filteredout.
And once it's filtered out, thenthe beekeeper can go ahead and
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jar it or store it.
Or bring it to your favoritepodcaster.
Absolutely.
You never want to forget thosepodcasters.
SPEAKER_10 (07:34):
I would have to think probably the biggest
detriment to the bee population,which is absolutely necessary
for human life to even continue,because of food, would be the
herbicides, the pesticides, thefungicides, and all of the
garbage that people will dumponto their lawn and gardens and
roads and whatever,
SPEAKER_09 (07:55):
right?
Those have all been problemsthat have plagued beekeepers for
quite some time, especially in,I'll say in the last 10 to 15
years.
And so beekeepers are constantlytrying to make sure that where
they've located their hives aregoing to be areas that are not
going to be where pesticides orherbicides are used.
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So they monitor for those sortsof things and also just try to
have a variety of bees that aregoing to be genetically strong
enough to combat any of the sideeffects from any of those
chemicals that are part of whatwe use on a regular basis.
SPEAKER_10 (08:37):
Big Keeper Extraordinaire, John Peterson,
back in a moment.
SPEAKER_11 (08:41):
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SPEAKER_10 (09:42):
Chet and Barbara Gardner have lived in and around
Lincoln City for how many years,Chet?
SPEAKER_08 (09:47):
For 51 years now, I think.
SPEAKER_10 (09:51):
You're one of those guys who moved out here and
never made enough money toleave, so you stayed here,
right?
SPEAKER_08 (09:56):
Right.
But our house was originallyused just for a beach cabin.
And so I was coming down here.
My dad had the cabin builtsomewhere around 1931.
So I've been coming down hereall my life.
SPEAKER_10 (10:13):
1931, it seems like an eternity.
SPEAKER_08 (10:17):
Yes, it does.
Since I was only born in 1937,so...
SPEAKER_10 (10:23):
So all of your memories are really of Lincoln
City, Depot Bay?
Yes.
Now, Barb, your wife was aschoolteacher in the Lincoln
County school system?
SPEAKER_08 (10:35):
No.
Well, she was here, yes, andthen she had prior experience
also.
SPEAKER_10 (10:43):
And she was an elementary schoolteacher,
correct?
SPEAKER_08 (10:45):
Yes.
SPEAKER_10 (10:47):
Now, you were involved in business in the
area.
I can think of a couple ofdifferent instances.
You were a skipper of a charterboat in Depot Bay, right?
SPEAKER_08 (10:56):
Yes.
Yes, and my dad before me.
My dad was a skipper of acharter boat in Depot Bay, the
Jimco, in the 19...
Let's see, about 1955, I think.
Excuse me, that's earlier thanthat.
The...
1951 to about 55.
SPEAKER_10 (11:22):
That's a long time ago.
SPEAKER_08 (11:24):
Right, that's a long time ago.
SPEAKER_10 (11:25):
Tell me about being a skipper on a Jimco.
Now, that would have been underFreddie and Beverly Robinson,
right?
SPEAKER_08 (11:32):
Originally, it was with Sea Trollers in the early
days.
And then when I purchased theboat back from Fred Robinson,
then that started a new era.
SPEAKER_10 (11:46):
Tell me about being a skipper of a fishing boat in
Deeble Bay.
SPEAKER_08 (11:49):
Well, one of the things about it, when you're
licensed for over six people,you have to have a special Coast
Guard license, ocean operator'slicense.
And that is more involved in theprior learning in that.
SPEAKER_10 (12:09):
Did you land salmon every time you went out?
SPEAKER_08 (12:12):
I can't say every time, no, but I was a good
fisherman.
SPEAKER_10 (12:18):
What makes a good fisherman in the ocean in Depot
Bay?
SPEAKER_08 (12:23):
Well, a good fisherman is consistent in their
catches and not every time youcan be that lucky to do that.
SPEAKER_10 (12:34):
And again, you had the fishing boat in Depot Bay
for a number of years, and thenyou had a coin shop in Lincoln
City.
SPEAKER_08 (12:42):
That's correct.
I had the coin shop and the boatat the same time.
So generally, the shop would beclosed in the fishing season.
SPEAKER_10 (12:52):
So literally, when you'd hang out at the side gone
fishing, you'd gone fishing.
That's right.
Tell me about the coin shop.
SPEAKER_08 (12:59):
I just specialize mainly in U.S.
coins and gold and silver.
SPEAKER_10 (13:05):
The coin shop, you had then became a jewelry store,
I believe.
SPEAKER_08 (13:11):
No, it was a jewelry store before it was a coin shop,
yes.
SPEAKER_10 (13:16):
And then you ran the coin shop for how long?
SPEAKER_08 (13:21):
A little over 20 years.
SPEAKER_10 (13:23):
You are actively involved in the American Legion
Post here in Lincoln City.
Why?
SPEAKER_08 (13:29):
Well, I'm a patriotic citizen.
SPEAKER_10 (13:33):
That's about as good an answer as I think I've ever
heard.
Yeah, that speaks volumes, Chet.
SPEAKER_08 (13:42):
And that's where I stand.
I'm a true American.
I've stood up for that in theUSNR, and I retired a captain in
the United States Navy Reserve.
SPEAKER_10 (13:59):
A full
SPEAKER_08 (14:00):
captain?
Yes.
SPEAKER_10 (14:02):
Now, that would be equivalent in the Army to a
colonel, right?
Six.
SPEAKER_08 (14:08):
Yes.
SPEAKER_10 (14:09):
Again, your service in the service is something
you're quite proud of.
SPEAKER_08 (14:16):
Yes.
Three years and four months, andthen I went to the reserve
program after that.
SPEAKER_10 (14:23):
And being a skipper of a fishing boat in Depot Bay,
every time the fleet of flowerssails, you've got to choke up a
little bit, don't
SPEAKER_08 (14:32):
you?
Yeah, normally I go down forthat.
Since my dad also was a tradeboat skipper.
SPEAKER_10 (14:39):
What a history you and Barb have in this community.
SPEAKER_08 (14:43):
Yes, when we first had the house before my wife, we
were the third house on the westside on the hill there.
SPEAKER_07 (14:51):
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SPEAKER_10 (15:21):
If you're looking for great early garden fresh
produce, it's Kenny's IGA in theBay Area of Lincoln City.
Four generations of Morganscaring for your every grocery
need.
All of your favorite beverages,a full deli, meat, produce, and
of course, groceries.
SPEAKER_00 (15:36):
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Hi, Adina Zeller here, andZeller's restaurants are now a
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SPEAKER_03 (15:50):
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SPEAKER_10 (16:17):
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Septic Service.
Talking with Charlotte Latham.
Charlotte is the farmer'sinsurance agent extraordinaire
in Lincoln City, but moreimportantly and more to the need
of the community right now, isMedicare insurance.
SPEAKER_05 (16:33):
Absolutely, you bet.
The Medicare annual enrollmentperiod is kicking off and it
ends the 7th of December.
And so this upcoming year, wehave some really significant
changes that are happening inthe Medicare world, things y'all
need to be aware of.
SPEAKER_10 (16:48):
Okay, you also got some new companies coming in to
Lincoln County, correct?
SPEAKER_05 (16:52):
We do, that is correct.
So Devoted Health is a MedicareAdvantage plan carrier and
Devoted Health is now going tobe offering a Medicare Advantage
in Lincoln County.
So you might recall a coupleyears back, back in 2023, we had
Moda Health and we had RegentsBlue Cross and Samaritan.
Well, Moda Health and RegentsBlue Cross bailed, leaving only
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Samaritan health plans.
Don't get me wrong, Samaritan isa great plan, but we also have a
new contender in the ring, andthat is Devoted Health.
SPEAKER_10 (17:23):
And with Devoted Health coming in, what's the
difference?
What does it make that make adifference?
SPEAKER_05 (17:30):
You know, it does make a big difference, I think.
I think it's important to take alook at both types of plans
because they both have differentbenefits and they're going to
fit different needs fordifferent people.
So, you know, this is all aboutchoice and it's a cost-benefit
analysis.
Samaritan has two well-pricedplans.
One plan is$29 a month.
One is$138.
Devoted Health has two plans,which I have...
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No, you said at the top of theinterview up here at the senior
SPEAKER_10 (18:12):
fair is that...
There are lots of changes.
Changes like what?
SPEAKER_05 (18:19):
There are changes.
So I think the most sweepingchange that we're looking at is
the change to the Medicareprescription drug rules.
So for many, many years, we hadsomething called the donut hole
or the prescription drug gap.
So individuals that use a lot ofexpensive medications, they
generally fall into that druggap.
And so this last year, the druggap, you stopped paying for your
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medications when you reached$8,000 out of pocket.
Well, Roger, that's That's aheck of a lot of money for
somebody to spend.
That's just a huge amount ofmoney.
For 2025, that prescription druggap is collapsing.
Well, there's not going to be aprescription drug gap, but the
most you'll have to pay out ofpocket for your medications is
$2,000.
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That is absolutely huge.
So take someone that is using amedication like Ozempic, for
example, or Xeralto or Eliquis,very expensive medications.
The most they'll have to paynext year,$2,000 for those
medications.
So where
SPEAKER_10 (19:18):
does the money come from to pay the difference?
SPEAKER_05 (19:22):
The money to pay the difference is actually going to
come from the drug plans.
So that's the word with the barkoff of it.
And of course, Medicare, there'sreimbursements from Medicare as
well.
But I think the bottom line is,is that for individuals that are
on Medicare and living on afixed income, this is a
significant change.
This means the difference tomany people being able to choose
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between paying their rent,putting gas in their car or
paying for their medication.
SPEAKER_10 (19:46):
Huge
SPEAKER_05 (19:50):
difference.
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entire year.
right?
And so the drug plans and theMedicare Advantage plan
carriers, they're going to bethe ones that are allowing that
financing to occur.
SPEAKER_10 (20:26):
So now with all of these new features coming in
with all of these different drugcompanies, or not drug
companies, but insurancecompanies, what do I do?
Do I have to come in and sitdown and we go over the plans
again?
What happens?
SPEAKER_05 (20:40):
Yeah, we certainly can do that.
The other thing I offer myclients is go ahead and send me
an email.
I'm happy to go ahead and do ananalysis for you over via email.
All I need are the names of yourmedications, the dosages you
take, the frequency you takethem, how you fill in the
pharmacy you use.
Send me an email.
I'll go ahead and do theanalysis for you and send the
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results to you.
It's just that simple.
Or we can always do aface-to-face visit.
SPEAKER_10 (21:06):
I would have to think that there are a number of
people like myself that have noknowledge of how this all works.
SPEAKER_05 (21:14):
Right, exactly.
And I think that's one of theadvantages of working
face-to-face with an agent orhaving a local agent that can
step in and guide you throughall of these sweeping changes
because they are incrediblysignificant to our senior
population.
SPEAKER_10 (21:28):
I know in several instances, I have said that
Charlotte Latho eats, sleeps,and everything else Medicare
insurance.
SPEAKER_05 (21:36):
Absolutely.
I'm a Medicare and a healthinsurance geek.
I absolutely love the industry.
I love what it does for ourcommunity.
I love the fact that we have theability to purchase really good
health insurance plans at alower cost.
But I think, again, the caveatis develop a relationship with
an agent that you trust.
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I have many clients that comeback to me year after year, and
I absolutely love it becauseit's a cost-benefit analysis and
we need to guide them to theright solution.
SPEAKER_10 (22:06):
And again, we are up at the senior fair.
I'm with you with Charlotte.
Is there anything else that Ishould have on the table today
to fully understand the changesfor this year?
SPEAKER_05 (22:18):
You know, just know that one of the big changes is,
is that because of the changesto the prescription drug laws,
the rules, many Medicareprescription drug plans,
standalone plans are going to betaking some sweeping rate
increases.
One plan in particular calledthe Aetna Smart Saver plan went
from three dollars and 30 centsa month up to$35 a month.
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Now that's a drug plan.
That's a quadruple increase inthe premium.
And so please, when you getthose annual notices of change
from your drug plan carrier,open them up.
You want to make sure thatyou're not going to get gouged
after the Medicare annualenrollment period ends on the
7th of December.
So if you need to make a change,you have from the 15th of
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October to the 7th of December,but only that period of time to
change.
You don't want to get lockedinto We at La Roca are
SPEAKER_01 (23:10):
proud of our food, but don't take our word for it.
Read the reviews.
One person wrote, La Roca hasbecome one of our favorites
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SPEAKER_10 (23:27):
And again, our thanks to John Peterson,
Charlotte Latho, and ChetGardner for joining us on the
Double R Show.
I keep going back to theinterview with John.
I know it came as a bit of asurprise to both of us how
interesting that program reallywas.
SPEAKER_06 (23:43):
Yeah, and there are other beekeepers in the
community too.
And so just a really cool hobbyand something that contributes,
frankly, to your food supply andto, you know, all sorts of
things out here on the Oregoncoast.
And again...
it'll draw
SPEAKER_10 (23:58):
your attention to the fact that Stay away from the
herbicides, fungicides,pesticides that kill off the bee
population.
Absolutely.
Thank you for that.
Please, please, please.
Angels Anonymous Festival of theTrees coming up on December the
7th.
The event will actually open upon December the 4th, a very
special day.
What happens on December the 4thagain?
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The opening of the Festival ofthe Trees.
And a birthday.
And a birthday.
It is the 24th annual Festivalof the Trees, but the
celebration is the 25thanniversary of Angels Anonymous.
SPEAKER_07 (24:33):
Right,
SPEAKER_10 (24:34):
yeah.
The tree celebration is one yearbehind, if you will, the actual
formation of Angels Anonymous.
But Hot Lava PolynesianEntertainment is going to be
here in Lincoln City.
It is a complete luau from theentertainment to the food.
It is going to be exciting.
It will be fun.
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Tickets are$125 each.
But again, remember the reasonthat we're doing is to raise
money so we can continue to helppeople with immediate and basic
needs.
SPEAKER_06 (25:07):
And it's a lot cheaper than flying to Hawaii.
Yeah.
Not that we don't want to fly toHawaii.
You could always check outAlways Traveling and they could
get you to Hawaii too, right?
Well, there's
SPEAKER_10 (25:16):
that.
And speaking of AlwaysTraveling, we have a cruise
party coming up.
This is sponsored by the LincolnCity Chamber of Commerce, but
Dr.
Estill Harlan will lead adiscussion on board the cruise
ship on life and career travelTransitions.
Learn while having fun.
Earn money for the Lincoln CityChamber of Commerce.
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The sailing date is April 22ndthrough the 26th.
Four fun-filled days and threenights from Vancouver, BC.
Round trip.
Ports of call include Seattleand Victoria.
Inside cabin per person, 647.
Ocean view, 764.
Balcony, 964.
And a suite at 1364.
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And part of the process fromthat money goes right to
supporting the Lincoln CityChamber of Commerce.
So get a hold of me and get onboard the cruise party.
Registrations will soon close onthat event.
Anything else your side of thetable?
SPEAKER_06 (26:17):
Yeah, just one other event.
December 14th coming up hereafter a bit now still, but you
can get your tickets for theGyotaku Winter Workshop that the
Cascade Head buys forcollaborative putting on again.
This is a great opportunity tocelebrate the season and you
know maybe you're making giftpaper or you're making presents
for folks and you're learningthis great art form of Gyotaku
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it's going to be again SaturdayDecember 14th at the Pelican
Brewing register for thatGyotaku Winter Workshop at
cascadehead.org
SPEAKER_10 (26:49):
Again we appreciate everybody joining us for today's
special presentation ChetGardner, Charlotte and of course
John Peterson and I still getoff thinking about Bees.
Bee in your bonnet.
Buzz, buzz, buzz, Mr.
Bee.
That'll do it to the doings.
And again, we remind you andencourage you to like, share, so
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street can join us right here inthe Double R Show.
For Paul and Jenna, I am DoubleR.
Have a happy day.
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SPEAKER_10 (00:30):
Honey in the morning, honey in the evening,
honey at suppertime.
John Peterson is going to joinus and talk about bees and
honey, Paul.
SPEAKER_06 (00:39):
Yeah, I was just really impressed with this
interview.
I think people are really goingto enjoy it.
I learned a lot about bees thatI had no idea about.
The number of bees that turnover in the colony, just all
sorts of really greatinformation.
SPEAKER_10 (00:50):
It is amazing, 50,000 bees in one colony.
SPEAKER_06 (00:54):
Yeah, per colony, right.
Honeybees, of course, the goodkind, which we want, the big
pollinators of the world.
So yeah, yeah, great to have himon the episode.
SPEAKER_10 (01:04):
And we'll also talk to Chad Gardner.
We'll talk about his time in theservice and his time in Lincoln
City.
And then Charlotte Lathoe isgoing to be on board because
there are some changes inMedicare insurance.
And people, seniors, you need tohear what Charlotte's got to say
because it is for your ownbenefit.
We'll do that and more rightafter this.
SPEAKER_05 (01:27):
Wouldn't it be great to have all your insurance needs
handled by one agency?
This is Charlotte Lathoe withFarmers Insurance and the
Insurance Store.
Visit our office next to theWildflower Grill in Lincoln
City.
Let us be your one stop for yourpersonal, commercial, health,
and Medicare insurance needs.
SPEAKER_02 (01:44):
Bob's Beach Books in the Ocean Lake area of Lincoln
City does in fact have whatyou'll want to read.
I'm Diana Portwood, and if wehappen to be out of a particular
bestseller, in a day or twowe'll have it back in the store
waiting for you.
Bob's Beach Books, you can jointhe conversation.
SPEAKER_10 (01:57):
Honey in the morning, honey in the evening,
honey at suppertime.
With me is John Peterson, andyou are the keeper of the bees
in the
SPEAKER_09 (02:04):
area, right John?
I'm sure that there are quite afew beekeepers in Lincoln
County, but yes, I happen to beone of them in the area.
How did you get into that?
About six years ago when I wasgetting ready to retire from my
job at the time, one of myPartners suggested I needed to
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come up with a useful hobby andsuggested that I consider
raising honeybees to fill thetime, helping me get started
with ordering up some honeybeesand getting the appropriate
equipment.
And the rest has just continuedto grow from that.
SPEAKER_10 (02:40):
When you talk about equipment, what kind of
equipment are you talking about,John?
SPEAKER_09 (02:44):
Basically, you have to have boxes to provide the
hives or a home where the beesare going to live and be able to
store the pollen and nectar thatthey collect to keep themselves
alive.
And so you've got boxes thathave frames in them, and the
frames are where the bees willcreate the wax cells.
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And then in the wax cells, theystore pollen and honey, and
that's where the baby bees areraised and then grow from that.
SPEAKER_10 (03:16):
Now, talking about baby bees, before we went on
with the interview, you weretalking about the number of
babies the queen bee will...
SPEAKER_09 (03:27):
Lay each day?
Mated queen will typically laybetween 1,000, 1,500 eggs every
day.
That's phenomenal.
Extremely phenomenal.
And the fact is that thehoneybee has a life of
approximately 45 days, sothere's a constant turnover in
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the population of the hives.
So once the queen has beenmated, her sole job is just
laying eggs that are...
tend to grow out into new
SPEAKER_10 (03:58):
bees.
Okay, now that we're coming intothe fall, the winter is not far
behind.
What do you do with the beehivesand the bees in the
SPEAKER_09 (04:07):
wintertime?
Typically, into the fall, whatwill happen is the population
will diminish from itssummertime hive, around 50,000
bees in each beehive.
The queen will start producingfewer eggs, and the bees will
concentrate on making sure thatthey have enough pollen and
honey store up to get themthrough the winter.
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As a beekeeper, part of myresponsibility is to make sure
that if there's medicationsnecessary to keep them healthy,
to avoid any diseases, thatthey're provided with that.
And also, beekeepers typicallywill provide supplemental syrup
feedings to the bees until theygo into their state of
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hibernation for the wintermonths, which around here
typically begins to occur aroundthe beginning of November.
So when they go intohibernation, are they totally
gone for the winter?
Not at all.
They will reside inside thehive.
The population will diminish tosomewhere between 8,000 or 9,000
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bees and the queen.
And they will work atmaintaining a core temperature
of around 90 to 95 degreesinside the hive and just
continue to keep themselves fedoff the food and pollen stores
that they have accumulated andget them through the rainy
season that we have here on theOregon coast and take turns
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going out and helping themselvesto their stores of pollen and
honey and bring it back and feedthe queen and make sure that the
hive continues.
Talk
SPEAKER_10 (05:49):
a little bit about harvesting the honey out of the
hives.
That's going to be a trick toitself.
SPEAKER_09 (05:55):
A beekeeper will work with these bees to make
sure that, first of all, thatthey have have stored up enough
of their own supply of pollenand honey to get them through
the year.
And typically, that will beapproximately 60 pounds.
again, a combination of honeyand pollen.
Once the beekeeper is assuredthat the bees have enough of
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their own supplies, then thebeekeeper can put on an extra
box with frames.
And those empty frames then arewhat the bees will begin just
storing honey.
And that's the honey then, thesurplus honey, that the
beekeeper can go ahead and helpthemselves to without the
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detriment of the hives.
Each of the frames that's insideof one of those boxes has about
3,500 cells on it.
And the wax cells are where thebees will store nectar, which
then it converted to honey.
And then the beekeeper takeseach one of those frames and
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will open up the wax cappingsthat the bees have placed over
each of the cells and extractthe honey.
And typically you use acentrifuge type device, an
extractor, which spins out theliquid honey.
Liquid honey then is filteredout.
And once it's filtered out, thenthe beekeeper can go ahead and
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jar it or store it.
Or bring it to your favoritepodcaster.
Absolutely.
You never want to forget thosepodcasters.
SPEAKER_10 (07:34):
I would have to think probably the biggest
detriment to the bee population,which is absolutely necessary
for human life to even continue,because of food, would be the
herbicides, the pesticides, thefungicides, and all of the
garbage that people will dumponto their lawn and gardens and
roads and whatever,
SPEAKER_09 (07:55):
right?
Those have all been problemsthat have plagued beekeepers for
quite some time, especially in,I'll say in the last 10 to 15
years.
And so beekeepers are constantlytrying to make sure that where
they've located their hives aregoing to be areas that are not
going to be where pesticides orherbicides are used.
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So they monitor for those sortsof things and also just try to
have a variety of bees that aregoing to be genetically strong
enough to combat any of the sideeffects from any of those
chemicals that are part of whatwe use on a regular basis.
SPEAKER_10 (08:37):
Big Keeper Extraordinaire, John Peterson,
back in a moment.
SPEAKER_11 (08:41):
In Oregon, there are 30 state senators, and we are
lucky to have Senator DickAnderson on the coast standing
up for our voices in Salem.
Senator Anderson has been calledthe most effective senator in
Salem.
He has passed landmark housingand homeless legislation, funded
police, criminalized hard drugsagain, stood up for local school
boards, and has sent over$100million in investments back to
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coastal communities for housing,mental health, health care, and
infrastructure investments.
Being effective only matters ifit works.
This is why he has been endorsedby nearly every mayor in his
district.
Senator Anderson is local.
He understands how the small,rural communities struggle to
keep law enforcement and firefunding, attract jobs, and build
more housing.
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There is more work to be done.
This is why Senator Anderson isrunning for re-election asking
for your vote.
Please go to SenatorAnderson.comand volunteer a yard sign
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Volunteer or even donate.
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SPEAKER_10 (09:42):
Chet and Barbara Gardner have lived in and around
Lincoln City for how many years,Chet?
SPEAKER_08 (09:47):
For 51 years now, I think.
SPEAKER_10 (09:51):
You're one of those guys who moved out here and
never made enough money toleave, so you stayed here,
right?
SPEAKER_08 (09:56):
Right.
But our house was originallyused just for a beach cabin.
And so I was coming down here.
My dad had the cabin builtsomewhere around 1931.
So I've been coming down hereall my life.
SPEAKER_10 (10:13):
1931, it seems like an eternity.
SPEAKER_08 (10:17):
Yes, it does.
Since I was only born in 1937,so...
SPEAKER_10 (10:23):
So all of your memories are really of Lincoln
City, Depot Bay?
Yes.
Now, Barb, your wife was aschoolteacher in the Lincoln
County school system?
SPEAKER_08 (10:35):
No.
Well, she was here, yes, andthen she had prior experience
also.
SPEAKER_10 (10:43):
And she was an elementary schoolteacher,
correct?
SPEAKER_08 (10:45):
Yes.
SPEAKER_10 (10:47):
Now, you were involved in business in the
area.
I can think of a couple ofdifferent instances.
You were a skipper of a charterboat in Depot Bay, right?
SPEAKER_08 (10:56):
Yes.
Yes, and my dad before me.
My dad was a skipper of acharter boat in Depot Bay, the
Jimco, in the 19...
Let's see, about 1955, I think.
Excuse me, that's earlier thanthat.
The...
1951 to about 55.
SPEAKER_10 (11:22):
That's a long time ago.
SPEAKER_08 (11:24):
Right, that's a long time ago.
SPEAKER_10 (11:25):
Tell me about being a skipper on a Jimco.
Now, that would have been underFreddie and Beverly Robinson,
right?
SPEAKER_08 (11:32):
Originally, it was with Sea Trollers in the early
days.
And then when I purchased theboat back from Fred Robinson,
then that started a new era.
SPEAKER_10 (11:46):
Tell me about being a skipper of a fishing boat in
Deeble Bay.
SPEAKER_08 (11:49):
Well, one of the things about it, when you're
licensed for over six people,you have to have a special Coast
Guard license, ocean operator'slicense.
And that is more involved in theprior learning in that.
SPEAKER_10 (12:09):
Did you land salmon every time you went out?
SPEAKER_08 (12:12):
I can't say every time, no, but I was a good
fisherman.
SPEAKER_10 (12:18):
What makes a good fisherman in the ocean in Depot
Bay?
SPEAKER_08 (12:23):
Well, a good fisherman is consistent in their
catches and not every time youcan be that lucky to do that.
SPEAKER_10 (12:34):
And again, you had the fishing boat in Depot Bay
for a number of years, and thenyou had a coin shop in Lincoln
City.
SPEAKER_08 (12:42):
That's correct.
I had the coin shop and the boatat the same time.
So generally, the shop would beclosed in the fishing season.
SPEAKER_10 (12:52):
So literally, when you'd hang out at the side gone
fishing, you'd gone fishing.
That's right.
Tell me about the coin shop.
SPEAKER_08 (12:59):
I just specialize mainly in U.S.
coins and gold and silver.
SPEAKER_10 (13:05):
The coin shop, you had then became a jewelry store,
I believe.
SPEAKER_08 (13:11):
No, it was a jewelry store before it was a coin shop,
yes.
SPEAKER_10 (13:16):
And then you ran the coin shop for how long?
SPEAKER_08 (13:21):
A little over 20 years.
SPEAKER_10 (13:23):
You are actively involved in the American Legion
Post here in Lincoln City.
Why?
SPEAKER_08 (13:29):
Well, I'm a patriotic citizen.
SPEAKER_10 (13:33):
That's about as good an answer as I think I've ever
heard.
Yeah, that speaks volumes, Chet.
SPEAKER_08 (13:42):
And that's where I stand.
I'm a true American.
I've stood up for that in theUSNR, and I retired a captain in
the United States Navy Reserve.
SPEAKER_10 (13:59):
A full
SPEAKER_08 (14:00):
captain?
Yes.
SPEAKER_10 (14:02):
Now, that would be equivalent in the Army to a
colonel, right?
Six.
SPEAKER_08 (14:08):
Yes.
SPEAKER_10 (14:09):
Again, your service in the service is something
you're quite proud of.
SPEAKER_08 (14:16):
Yes.
Three years and four months, andthen I went to the reserve
program after that.
SPEAKER_10 (14:23):
And being a skipper of a fishing boat in Depot Bay,
every time the fleet of flowerssails, you've got to choke up a
little bit, don't
SPEAKER_08 (14:32):
you?
Yeah, normally I go down forthat.
Since my dad also was a tradeboat skipper.
SPEAKER_10 (14:39):
What a history you and Barb have in this community.
SPEAKER_08 (14:43):
Yes, when we first had the house before my wife, we
were the third house on the westside on the hill there.
SPEAKER_07 (14:51):
The train is right on time.
Grand Funk Railroad, theAmerican band.
Saturday, November 9th, ChinookWins Casino Resort.
Tickets on sale now atChinookWins.com.
Chinook Wins box office or byphone at 1-888-MAIN-ACT.
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Grand Funk Railroad.
Chinook Wins, where concerts arebetter at the beach.
SPEAKER_10 (15:21):
If you're looking for great early garden fresh
produce, it's Kenny's IGA in theBay Area of Lincoln City.
Four generations of Morganscaring for your every grocery
need.
All of your favorite beverages,a full deli, meat, produce, and
of course, groceries.
SPEAKER_00 (15:36):
We may be young, but we are experienced.
Hi, Adina Zeller here, andZeller's restaurants are now a
year old, but the experience inpreparing and serving food goes
way back generations.
Zeller's Lincoln City and RoseLodge, come on in.
SPEAKER_03 (15:50):
Northwest Septic Service is your one-stop shop
for all your septic needs.
SPEAKER_10 (15:54):
Northwest Septic Service offers pumping,
maintenance, repair andinspections with one call.
541-994-6977
SPEAKER_04 (16:02):
Buying or selling a home?
Northwest Septic Service caninspect your sewer line or an
entire septic system.
SPEAKER_03 (16:08):
Old or failing septic system?
Northwest Septic Service canrejuvenate most drained fields,
saving you thousands of dollars.
541-994-6977.
Serving
SPEAKER_10 (16:17):
Lincoln, Tillamook and Yamhill Counties, Northwest
Septic Service.
Talking with Charlotte Latham.
Charlotte is the farmer'sinsurance agent extraordinaire
in Lincoln City, but moreimportantly and more to the need
of the community right now, isMedicare insurance.
SPEAKER_05 (16:33):
Absolutely, you bet.
The Medicare annual enrollmentperiod is kicking off and it
ends the 7th of December.
And so this upcoming year, wehave some really significant
changes that are happening inthe Medicare world, things y'all
need to be aware of.
SPEAKER_10 (16:48):
Okay, you also got some new companies coming in to
Lincoln County, correct?
SPEAKER_05 (16:52):
We do, that is correct.
So Devoted Health is a MedicareAdvantage plan carrier and
Devoted Health is now going tobe offering a Medicare Advantage
in Lincoln County.
So you might recall a coupleyears back, back in 2023, we had
Moda Health and we had RegentsBlue Cross and Samaritan.
Well, Moda Health and RegentsBlue Cross bailed, leaving only
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Samaritan health plans.
Don't get me wrong, Samaritan isa great plan, but we also have a
new contender in the ring, andthat is Devoted Health.
SPEAKER_10 (17:23):
And with Devoted Health coming in, what's the
difference?
What does it make that make adifference?
SPEAKER_05 (17:30):
You know, it does make a big difference, I think.
I think it's important to take alook at both types of plans
because they both have differentbenefits and they're going to
fit different needs fordifferent people.
So, you know, this is all aboutchoice and it's a cost-benefit
analysis.
Samaritan has two well-pricedplans.
One plan is$29 a month.
One is$138.
Devoted Health has two plans,which I have...
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No, you said at the top of theinterview up here at the senior
SPEAKER_10 (18:12):
fair is that...
There are lots of changes.
Changes like what?
SPEAKER_05 (18:19):
There are changes.
So I think the most sweepingchange that we're looking at is
the change to the Medicareprescription drug rules.
So for many, many years, we hadsomething called the donut hole
or the prescription drug gap.
So individuals that use a lot ofexpensive medications, they
generally fall into that druggap.
And so this last year, the druggap, you stopped paying for your
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medications when you reached$8,000 out of pocket.
Well, Roger, that's That's aheck of a lot of money for
somebody to spend.
That's just a huge amount ofmoney.
For 2025, that prescription druggap is collapsing.
Well, there's not going to be aprescription drug gap, but the
most you'll have to pay out ofpocket for your medications is
$2,000.
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That is absolutely huge.
So take someone that is using amedication like Ozempic, for
example, or Xeralto or Eliquis,very expensive medications.
The most they'll have to paynext year,$2,000 for those
medications.
So where
SPEAKER_10 (19:18):
does the money come from to pay the difference?
SPEAKER_05 (19:22):
The money to pay the difference is actually going to
come from the drug plans.
So that's the word with the barkoff of it.
And of course, Medicare, there'sreimbursements from Medicare as
well.
But I think the bottom line is,is that for individuals that are
on Medicare and living on afixed income, this is a
significant change.
This means the difference tomany people being able to choose
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between paying their rent,putting gas in their car or
paying for their medication.
SPEAKER_10 (19:46):
Huge
SPEAKER_05 (19:50):
difference.
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entire year.
right?
And so the drug plans and theMedicare Advantage plan
carriers, they're going to bethe ones that are allowing that
financing to occur.
SPEAKER_10 (20:26):
So now with all of these new features coming in
with all of these different drugcompanies, or not drug
companies, but insurancecompanies, what do I do?
Do I have to come in and sitdown and we go over the plans
again?
What happens?
SPEAKER_05 (20:40):
Yeah, we certainly can do that.
The other thing I offer myclients is go ahead and send me
an email.
I'm happy to go ahead and do ananalysis for you over via email.
All I need are the names of yourmedications, the dosages you
take, the frequency you takethem, how you fill in the
pharmacy you use.
Send me an email.
I'll go ahead and do theanalysis for you and send the
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results to you.
It's just that simple.
Or we can always do aface-to-face visit.
SPEAKER_10 (21:06):
I would have to think that there are a number of
people like myself that have noknowledge of how this all works.
SPEAKER_05 (21:14):
Right, exactly.
And I think that's one of theadvantages of working
face-to-face with an agent orhaving a local agent that can
step in and guide you throughall of these sweeping changes
because they are incrediblysignificant to our senior
population.
SPEAKER_10 (21:28):
I know in several instances, I have said that
Charlotte Latho eats, sleeps,and everything else Medicare
insurance.
SPEAKER_05 (21:36):
Absolutely.
I'm a Medicare and a healthinsurance geek.
I absolutely love the industry.
I love what it does for ourcommunity.
I love the fact that we have theability to purchase really good
health insurance plans at alower cost.
But I think, again, the caveatis develop a relationship with
an agent that you trust.
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I have many clients that comeback to me year after year, and
I absolutely love it becauseit's a cost-benefit analysis and
we need to guide them to theright solution.
SPEAKER_10 (22:06):
And again, we are up at the senior fair.
I'm with you with Charlotte.
Is there anything else that Ishould have on the table today
to fully understand the changesfor this year?
SPEAKER_05 (22:18):
You know, just know that one of the big changes is,
is that because of the changesto the prescription drug laws,
the rules, many Medicareprescription drug plans,
standalone plans are going to betaking some sweeping rate
increases.
One plan in particular calledthe Aetna Smart Saver plan went
from three dollars and 30 centsa month up to$35 a month.
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Now that's a drug plan.
That's a quadruple increase inthe premium.
And so please, when you getthose annual notices of change
from your drug plan carrier,open them up.
You want to make sure thatyou're not going to get gouged
after the Medicare annualenrollment period ends on the
7th of December.
So if you need to make a change,you have from the 15th of
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October to the 7th of December,but only that period of time to
change.
You don't want to get lockedinto We at La Roca are
SPEAKER_01 (23:10):
proud of our food, but don't take our word for it.
Read the reviews.
One person wrote, La Roca hasbecome one of our favorites
because it's authentic Mexicanfood.
SPEAKER_10 (23:27):
And again, our thanks to John Peterson,
Charlotte Latho, and ChetGardner for joining us on the
Double R Show.
I keep going back to theinterview with John.
I know it came as a bit of asurprise to both of us how
interesting that program reallywas.
SPEAKER_06 (23:43):
Yeah, and there are other beekeepers in the
community too.
And so just a really cool hobbyand something that contributes,
frankly, to your food supply andto, you know, all sorts of
things out here on the Oregoncoast.
And again...
it'll draw
SPEAKER_10 (23:58):
your attention to the fact that Stay away from the
herbicides, fungicides,pesticides that kill off the bee
population.
Absolutely.
Thank you for that.
Please, please, please.
Angels Anonymous Festival of theTrees coming up on December the
7th.
The event will actually open upon December the 4th, a very
special day.
What happens on December the 4thagain?
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The opening of the Festival ofthe Trees.
And a birthday.
And a birthday.
It is the 24th annual Festivalof the Trees, but the
celebration is the 25thanniversary of Angels Anonymous.
SPEAKER_07 (24:33):
Right,
SPEAKER_10 (24:34):
yeah.
The tree celebration is one yearbehind, if you will, the actual
formation of Angels Anonymous.
But Hot Lava PolynesianEntertainment is going to be
here in Lincoln City.
It is a complete luau from theentertainment to the food.
It is going to be exciting.
It will be fun.
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Tickets are$125 each.
But again, remember the reasonthat we're doing is to raise
money so we can continue to helppeople with immediate and basic
needs.
SPEAKER_06 (25:07):
And it's a lot cheaper than flying to Hawaii.
Yeah.
Not that we don't want to fly toHawaii.
You could always check outAlways Traveling and they could
get you to Hawaii too, right?
Well, there's
SPEAKER_10 (25:16):
that.
And speaking of AlwaysTraveling, we have a cruise
party coming up.
This is sponsored by the LincolnCity Chamber of Commerce, but
Dr.
Estill Harlan will lead adiscussion on board the cruise
ship on life and career travelTransitions.
Learn while having fun.
Earn money for the Lincoln CityChamber of Commerce.
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The sailing date is April 22ndthrough the 26th.
Four fun-filled days and threenights from Vancouver, BC.
Round trip.
Ports of call include Seattleand Victoria.
Inside cabin per person, 647.
Ocean view, 764.
Balcony, 964.
And a suite at 1364.
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And part of the process fromthat money goes right to
supporting the Lincoln CityChamber of Commerce.
So get a hold of me and get onboard the cruise party.
Registrations will soon close onthat event.
Anything else your side of thetable?
SPEAKER_06 (26:17):
Yeah, just one other event.
December 14th coming up hereafter a bit now still, but you
can get your tickets for theGyotaku Winter Workshop that the
Cascade Head buys forcollaborative putting on again.
This is a great opportunity tocelebrate the season and you
know maybe you're making giftpaper or you're making presents
for folks and you're learningthis great art form of Gyotaku
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it's going to be again SaturdayDecember 14th at the Pelican
Brewing register for thatGyotaku Winter Workshop at
cascadehead.org
SPEAKER_10 (26:49):
Again we appreciate everybody joining us for today's
special presentation ChetGardner, Charlotte and of course
John Peterson and I still getoff thinking about Bees.
Bee in your bonnet.
Buzz, buzz, buzz, Mr.
Bee.
That'll do it to the doings.
And again, we remind you andencourage you to like, share, so
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you, your family and friendsaround the world and across the
street can join us right here inthe Double R Show.
For Paul and Jenna, I am DoubleR.
Have a happy day.
SPEAKER_03 (27:25):
You've been listening to The Double R Show.
Join Roger and Paul Robertson asthey explore everything about
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The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.