August 15, 2024 • 32 mins
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From Sea Otters to Physicians, restoring a natural balance, plus planning in the Villages at Cascade Head and Surf City and Sound Off return to Chinook Winds.
- Chanel Hason, Elakha Alliance
- Dr. Lesley Ogden, Samaritan Health Services
- Heather Hatton, Chinook Winds Casino Resort
- Richard Townsend, Lincoln City Planning & Community Department
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SPEAKER_03 (00:00):
Welcome
SPEAKER_05 (00:07):
to the Double R Show, the podcast that features
everything about North LincolnCounty.
The Double R Show directed andproduced by Paul Robertson and
hosted by the voice of LincolnCity, Roger Robertson.
SPEAKER_02 (00:30):
So thank you, Janna, and welcome to the Double R
Show.
We've got an interesting programagain today.
We're going to talk aboutreplenishing.
SPEAKER_11 (00:37):
Yeah, replenishing the ranks.
So we've got the Alaka Alliancewe're going to be talking with.
Which is?
Alaka is the Chinook jargonword, the trade language word of
Native peoples in this area.
And Alaka means sea otter.
So the Alaka Alliance is anorganization, as we'll find out
from Chanel, about helping tolook to seek to restore...
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Sea otters here on the Oregoncoast.
Restoring sea otters.
We also have another topic.
Yeah, we're going to be talkingwith Dr.
Ogden and talking aboutrestoring the ranks of
physicians on the Oregon coast.
Which is desperately needed.
Yes, indeed.
And last but not least.
And lastly, we're going to talkwith an old rank and file from
the old planning department.
Richard Townsend is going to beon the program.
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And
SPEAKER_02 (01:20):
Heather Hatton is going to join us as well.
We'll do that and more rightafter this.
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SPEAKER_02 (02:26):
Interesting topic, restoring the lost and found of
a legacy of Oregon.
Chanel Haston is with us.
And Chanel, we're talking aboutsea otters.
SPEAKER_07 (02:36):
Yes, we are.
SPEAKER_02 (02:37):
We have lost them?
SPEAKER_07 (02:39):
Well, we didn't lose them.
We hunted them.
Ah,
SPEAKER_02 (02:43):
to near extinction.
SPEAKER_07 (02:44):
To local extinction in Oregon, to be specific.
SPEAKER_02 (02:47):
So what are we doing to regenerate them?
That lost legacy.
SPEAKER_07 (02:52):
So the Alaka Alliance is a nonprofit here in
Oregon.
Alaka is a native word for seaotter.
So I like to say Boomshaka Alakafor people to remember our name
because it's not, doesn't justroll off the tongue.
And so we were created by asluts tribal member, the late
David Hatch.
And so he was actually buildinga boat with his son, Peter, came
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across the word Alaka in aChinook jargon dictionary, and
then started to question whathappened to Oregon sea otters
and why It was really importantto bring them back.
And so his legacy lives onthrough the nonprofit Alaka
Alliance.
And we have an incredible boardof directors and now three
full-time staff that are workingto help educate the public, fund
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research projects, and worktowards bringing sea otters back
to the Oregon coast.
SPEAKER_02 (03:38):
Three full-time staff, really?
Doing what?
SPEAKER_07 (03:42):
So I was the first ever employee two years ago as
director of outreach andcommunity relations.
And we have an executivedirector, James Bakary.
She is based in Portland.
And then we have a coastalcommunity coordinator down on
the south coast near Coos Bay,Kyle Motley.
SPEAKER_02 (03:58):
And what's the reception from the community?
SPEAKER_07 (04:00):
Mostly really positive.
I mean, they are charismaticanimals.
So that is helpful for usbecause everyone associates
their cute faces based on TVshows on Nat Geo or something
like that, or seeing them forthemselves down off of the
California coast or inWashington or Alaska.
But yeah, mostly positive.
Most times people don't realizethat we don't have sea otters on
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the oregon coast so it's reallygreat to get out and engage with
the public one-on-one and informthem why it's so important to
restore them back on the oregoncoast for cultural significance
ecological and economic
SPEAKER_02 (04:34):
for economic purposes like
SPEAKER_07 (04:37):
like ecotourism
SPEAKER_02 (04:38):
okay
SPEAKER_07 (04:39):
yeah we just funded a south coast tourism study that
suggested a 3.5 million dollarincome per year just to bring
sea otters back to the oregonReally?
$3.5
SPEAKER_02 (04:53):
million turnaround in the economy to sea otters?
SPEAKER_07 (04:58):
Yes.
People love wildlife.
SPEAKER_02 (05:01):
I would have to agree.
So what are we doing?
How are you restoring them?
SPEAKER_07 (05:08):
So it's not us who would do the actual
translocation of sea otters.
That would be the U.S.
Fish and Wildlife Servicebecause they are a marine
protected mammal.
And so what we are doing is alot of the grassroots advocacy.
So that's where we're going outand engaging with the public,
educating them.
We're also funding differentresearch projects to kind of
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help better the U.S.
Fish and Wildlife decision to doa reintroduction.
And then we're also working withall the tribal entities on the
coast.
So they are really the ones,hopefully in the future, to take
on this whole initiative.
SPEAKER_02 (05:43):
So it has been the tribes that have been at the
forefront of this?
SPEAKER_07 (05:46):
So we have two tribes online.
on our board.
Currently, the Siletz tribe andthe Sittiklusi, the Koos, Lower
Umpqua, and Siuslaw Indians.
We work closely with theCoquille tribe as well, but we
have letters of approval fromevery coastal tribes to do a sea
otter reintroduction.
And actually, just recently,Siletz and Sittiklusi tribes
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sent a letter to Senator of theInterior Deb Haaland to ask her
politely to do a sea otterreintroduction in Oregon because
it is super important.
to them significantly as acultural species.
SPEAKER_02 (06:20):
And is it primarily political advocacy that you're
doing at this point in timethen?
SPEAKER_07 (06:26):
No, we are kind of just starting to ramp that up a
little bit behind the scenes.
But that is an important partonce we get closer to a
potential reintroduction to beput on the table by U.S.
Fish and Wildlife Service.
SPEAKER_02 (06:39):
So you're funded how?
SPEAKER_07 (06:41):
By the people.
We are a 501c3 nonprofit.
So we get by through individualsdonations, through corporate
donations, businesses,foundations.
We don't have like a sole entitythat is funding us.
We write a lot of grants.
I'll say that.
Or Jane does, my executivedirector.
And so, yeah, we're doing well,though.
SPEAKER_02 (07:04):
Doing well in income or in exposure?
All of the above.
Yeah,
SPEAKER_07 (07:10):
yeah.
But, you know, we are anonprofit and small, so we do
need help from the generalpublic in terms of just
spreading awareness about seaotters not being on the Oregon
coast and what happened to themand our kelp forests in Oregon
right now we've lost abouttwo-thirds of our original kelp
forests due to different factorsincluding climate change and
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also the sea urchins which eatkelp right now don't have their
top predators in the ecosystemso everything's out of balance
so they're basicallyoverpopulating and eating all
the kelp forests which is thefoundation for that entire
ecosystem for that thousands ofspecies.
So if we don't do something now,it could be super detrimental to
everyone on the coast andinland, the whole Oregon state.
SPEAKER_02 (07:57):
Not good to mess with Mother Nature, is it?
SPEAKER_07 (08:00):
No, it's not.
SPEAKER_02 (08:01):
It can come back and bite you.
And in this instance, it has.
How many pairs would you like tosee reintroduced on the central
Oregon coast?
SPEAKER_07 (08:11):
So we published a feasibility study in 2022 with
basically the top six sea otterscientists of the world.
And they stated that it isfeasible to do a reintroduction.
Tim Tinker, Dr.
Tim Tinker created an ORSOmodel, which is basically a lot
of beautiful statistics whereyou can enter the number of sea
otters you would like in alocation on the Oregon coast
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between males and females.
And then it shows theirpotential positive outcome of
how they would survive.
And so based on that, it'sprobably around 50 or so sea
otters in one location.
SPEAKER_02 (08:48):
Again, if people want more information, want to
become involved, we do what?
SPEAKER_07 (08:53):
You can visit our website, which can be found at
oregonseotters.org, if you don'tknow how to spell Alaka
Alliance.
And we're on all the socialmedia platforms at Alaka
Alliance.
I run all of that.
So hopefully I'll see an uptickof numbers once you listen to
this show.
But yep, find us on there.
We also have a really wonderfulYouTube channel if you really
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want to dive deep into ourprevious webinars and seminars.
SPEAKER_02 (09:19):
It's an animal that everybody seems to want to see
Yes,
SPEAKER_07 (09:26):
it is a great poster child, but they're also really
significant for our coastalecosystems as a keystone
species, keeping everything inbalance.
So we're very happy that theyare very cute and charismatic
looking, but also they're somuch more than just a pretty
face.
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SPEAKER_02 (10:32):
There are new doctors in the house, if you
will.
With us is Dr.
Leslie Ogden from SamaritanNorth Lincoln Hospital.
You have a number of newresidents here in Lincoln City.
SPEAKER_04 (10:43):
Well, they are in Lincoln City and they are all
over Lincoln County.
And
SPEAKER_02 (10:48):
they're coming from?
SPEAKER_04 (10:49):
Well, all over the United States.
And in some cases, the world,actually.
What we started, we had a dreammany years ago.
And thanks to funding from boththe state and the federal
government, we were able toapply for and start a family
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medicine rural residency tracktraining program.
So this is to take doctors thathave graduated from medical
school and train them in thespecialty area of rural family
medicine.
SPEAKER_02 (11:24):
And it really is totally different than the big
city.
SPEAKER_04 (11:27):
It really is totally different than the big city.
The depth and breadth of thethings that doctors see in rural
areas and the expectation thatthey will be able to handle,
right?
That you don't always have aspecialist at your elbow in a
rural area.
And so even though we're veryspoiled in a lot of ways and we
have a lot more specialty carethan I can even name sometimes
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in our area, it is a differentpractice of medicine in a rural
setting.
SPEAKER_02 (11:56):
Now, you have nine new residents throughout Lincoln
County?
Well, they're not
SPEAKER_04 (12:02):
all new to us.
So let me explain how it works.
So we started two years ago, westarted the program and we had
our first three residents startwith us.
Dr.
Rice, Dr.
Boyke, and Dr.
Al Jazeeri.
They've gone through two yearsof the program.
It's a three-year program intotal.
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They are starting theirpost-graduate year three, PGY,
their PGY threes, and this willbe the last year of their
training.
And likewise, we are startingOur first group of second years
are coming through.
And I shouldn't say first groupbecause actually the first three
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finished up their second year.
So this is the second group ofsecond years coming through.
And then likewise, we have threecoming in as interns.
So all together, it's nineresidents that we're training.
It's just the first year theytrain in Corvallis, Portland,
and some of the bigger marketsaround trying to get a lot
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Right.
SPEAKER_02 (13:18):
How do you attract a doctor into rural family
medicine?
SPEAKER_04 (13:22):
Well, I'll tell you what, I think a lot of it is by
the reputation of the programactually out of Corvallis that
has been going for many, manyyears.
But there aren't that many ruralfamily medicine training
programs in the United States.
Even in our own state, there isa program in Klamath Falls,
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there's our program, and thenthere's a startup program in
Redmond.
And that's it for rural familymedicine.
So if someone is searching forus, they are finding us and we
are very competitive becausethere's just not that many
programs.
SPEAKER_02 (14:01):
You really go out onto the market soliciting,
seeking these people to come tothe rural hospitals.
SPEAKER_04 (14:08):
Absolutely.
We interview tons of differentapplicants and we decide the
ones that are best for us.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (14:16):
What do you look for in that applicant?
SPEAKER_04 (14:18):
Well, we First of all, we look for somebody who's
truly interested in ruralemergency medicine, right?
And you would think that wouldself-select, but, you know,
you've just got to make surethat that's really what people
are looking for.
Because what we don't want to dois we don't want to train a
bunch of people who end up goinginto another specialty or doing
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something different.
We really want them to beinvested in rural family
medicine and stay in ruralfamily medicine.
SPEAKER_02 (14:46):
And stay here.
SPEAKER_04 (14:47):
And stay here, you guys.
it because there's not arequirement that once they
finish their training they stayhere but they are being trained
in rural family medicine and wewill have rural family medicine
jobs for them when they finishso the hope is that the majority
of them stay and that if we cangraduate three every year so
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after next year those three willgraduate and then three after
that and three after that everyyear if we can graduate three
rural family medicine physiciansthat we can save ourselves from
the shortage of physicians thatis happening to us right now.
SPEAKER_02 (15:28):
What kind of position are we in right now?
as far as the need for moredoctors?
SPEAKER_04 (15:35):
We are in a situation where as our older
doctors are retiring, and manyof them are or have been over
the past few years, we arestruggling to find replacement
physicians for them.
There are other types ofproviders, and thank goodness,
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right?
There are nurse practitionersand PAs, but there are just not
the number of physicians that weneed to take care of all of us
across the United States.
So we are really hoping thatthis training program puts them
in our backyard.
It puts them where they'recomfortable with us, where they
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know our patients becausethey're their patients as well,
and it will make them want tostay with us.
SPEAKER_02 (16:21):
I would have to think that they become invested
in that patient after a courseof three years of dealing with
that person.
SPEAKER_04 (16:30):
Yes, and that is part of the hope and part of how
the the programs are set up toencourage just that
SPEAKER_02 (16:39):
so nine that's that's a lot of bodies that's
that's a lot of uh medicalprofessionals put into the mix
here in in lincoln gutty or isit the entire samaritan system
SPEAKER_04 (16:52):
no no it is just that first year where they spend
in corvallis but the remainderso the the six that are within
their second year or third yearor training here in Lincoln
County exclusively.
And it is really amazing.
They are based out of PacificCommunities Hospital in Newport
because that's where we had thespace to, we didn't know when we
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built these hospitals that wewere actually going to need that
amount of space.
It is required by the graduatemedical education powers that
be, but it makes sense.
They need space for theirdidactics to do all of the work
that they do, and they needclinic space, right, to see
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patients.
So we've set them up in Newport,but they actually rotate all
around Lincoln County, and we'llsee them increasingly in so many
different places becausethere'll be six of them all
around us.
SPEAKER_02 (17:50):
In our hospitals.
SPEAKER_04 (17:51):
In our hospitals.
SPEAKER_02 (17:53):
With us, Dr.
Leslie Ogden, Samaritan NorthLincoln Hospital.
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And Heather, this weekend, it'scar extraordinaire.
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Yeah, there's, you know, classic cars.
And we got the sound off, ofcourse, again.
And we're excited about it.
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Now, the classic car show is Saturday.
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It's all day Saturday.
And you can register from 8 to11 a.m.
And you'll register directlywith the Angels Anonymous crew
that is helping us out.
And all the net proceeds aregoing to go to Angels Anonymous.
And then the next day is oursound off.
And there's a big raffle thathappens on sound
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off day.
It's huge.
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It's really, really big.
And we don't even contribute theraffle items.
It's all contributed by thesponsors of that event.
And they just love contributingto Angels Anonymous.
They've really become goodfriends.
A lot of you guys know them sowell.
And it's fun to see John Bairdand Jim and you and everybody
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down there it's
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amazing to me I've never seen so many hundred
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and mostly from out of town
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participants almost exclusively
SPEAKER_10 (19:24):
yeah and you know you see these kids run up and
wanting to win stuff and it'sjust I mean it's a family event
and so obviously over the yearsyou know we've gotten some flack
for the Sunday sound off becauseit is loud and we get it and I
mean I work marketing and Iunderstand but you know it's
almost like that it's awonderful life every time you
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hear a bell ring
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you know
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an angel gets his wings and I feel like every time
you hear the sound off and youknow angels are getting money
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and a lot of money a
SPEAKER_10 (19:54):
lot of money it's over 25,000 I think last year is
what we raised and we didn'traise it I mean we provide the
opportunity we provide the venueand we provide the conduit for
that fundraising but reallyangels does the work of of
selling it being there all dayyou know, John with his
headphones on, you know, becauseit's so loud.
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And so, you know, you guys dothe work and we really
appreciate that partnership.
Like when we did Beach Pick anda Bruise, we appreciate the
partnership with all thecharities, the chamber that
organizes all those charities,our picnic event where we
donated, you know, we raised$2,000.
Our team members raised$2,000for North Lincoln Fire
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And then we reached out to theChildren's Advocacy Center who
came and helped clean up.
And we couldn't do a lot of ourevents without that partnership
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other ones is the Black RabbitBeatles tribute so Tommy James
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I'm Richard Townsend, PlanningProjects Manager, City of
Lincoln City.
You have that title, but youhave been the Planning Director
on and off again for 410 years.
No, just 20 years.
Just 20 years.
20, just
SPEAKER_13 (21:58):
20.
And three times.
SPEAKER_02 (22:00):
Third time is charm.
SPEAKER_13 (22:02):
Well, the third time's over, so it was charming.
Now, is planning projectsmanager, what's that all about?
There's a series of projectsthat I'm working on that are
sort of a little bit outside themain part of what the planning
department does or take up a lotof time.
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And so I've got the time to workon them, so I'm working on them.
One of the biggest is theVillages at Cascade Head
property, where there was...
So many conditions of approvalthat were originally applied,
first in the original masterplan back in 1998, and then in
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the refined master plan, andthen in the individual plans for
the various, what they callblocks of land up there.
Around 200 conditions ofapproval, and several of them
ended up being pretty onerousand ended up really deterring
anybody from developing upthere.
SPEAKER_02 (23:05):
So when you're talking about those many
stumbling blocks in someinstances, how do you get rid of
them?
SPEAKER_13 (23:13):
Well, it would require a hearing at the
Planning Commission, and theywould have to just adopt the
change to the master plan.
So that's what I'm workingtowards.
And there'll be a publichearing, public notice, and a
meeting at the PlanningCommission, and we'll make a
decision.
UNKNOWN (23:29):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (23:30):
It would seem to me that a lot of people would sit
in the background and say, well,Richard Townsend is working for
the city.
Why would he want to be gettingrid of these line items, if you
will, instead of not puttingmore on?
Well,
SPEAKER_13 (23:46):
the conditions that we're thinking of really didn't
help anything very much.
There was a whole series of themrelated to something called the
Environmental ComplianceOfficer.
which the developer was supposedto have.
They did have it once, and allthat person did was try to
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figure out, because they were anemployee of the developer, They
were trying to figure out waysaround the rules rather than
trying to enforce the rules.
And a number of the rules, asI've said, were onerous and
really didn't accomplish much.
It was sort of window dressingtype stuff that sometimes when a
developer wants to do somethingfairly controversial, they'll
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throw in all these things.
I'm willing to do this.
I'll do this.
I'll do this.
I'll do this.
I'll do this.
And to sort of make it seemlike, oh, this is a great
project.
And in When a differentdeveloper comes in, it ends up
being a project for them.
Like right now, of the village'sproperty, the city owns most of
it, but there's a lot that thecity doesn't own.
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And the parts that the citydoesn't own, that are privately
owned, are for sale, but they'renot moving.
And one of the big reasonsbehind that is these conditions
of approval.
SPEAKER_02 (25:04):
Would the same thing hold true for parcels that the
city would be wanting to sell aswell, Greg?
SPEAKER_13 (25:10):
To some extent, yeah.
It affects all the propertyowners.
So it certainly affects thecity, which it may sound like
there's a conflict here.
But what we're trying to do israther than just have that land
be sitting as it's, you know, itgot approval in 1998.
You know, that's what, 26 yearsago.
To me, that's pretty much thedefinition of a failed
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development.
If of the 1,829 units that wereapproved for it, 12 have been
built.
So, you know, it's a lot ofwork.
There's something wrong, andwe're trying to fix that.
SPEAKER_02 (25:43):
In all of the years that you've been involved with
that project, you've seen itall, have you not?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I've
SPEAKER_13 (25:49):
got a long history with it because, like I said, it
was approved in 98.
I first started working for thecity at the end of 99.
So I've sort of seen it all theway through and seen what's
happened.
It's been an interesting saga tosee how it's come and gone and
how the recession affected itand those kinds of things.
SPEAKER_02 (26:12):
What are we seeing now?
Is there activity happening?
Are there people looking at it?
Or is it something you can't seeanything
SPEAKER_13 (26:20):
about?
The only thing that's happeningand sort of in a way isn't
happening is the city on twopieces of city land, we have
exclusive negotiating agreementsin effect.
One is what we call Fernwood,which is, you see that sort of
horse-shaped sort of ruffed inroad.
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We're negotiating with someoneabout residential development
there.
And that's still going on.
It has been for some time.
And then there's another piecewhere we're working with someone
on what we'll call sort ofneighborhood scale commercial
development in there.
SPEAKER_02 (27:01):
So the entire project does not have to be
taken over by one individual.
It's broken up in severaldifferent parcels.
SPEAKER_13 (27:08):
That's right.
When it was first approved,there were several blocks, and
there was Block A, Block B,Block C.
I know it goes up through atleast Block O.
There's lots of blocks.
The city owns most of them, butthere's some that it doesn't.
And actually, the tribe owns 50acres of the property up there,
too, that The original developertransferred to them for
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expansion of the golf course.
Many years ago, but I'm not surewhat, I actually have no idea
what the tribe's plan is
SPEAKER_02 (27:41):
for that land.
Easy to say or get it to besaid, you are eliminating some
of the stumbling blocks.
SPEAKER_13 (27:48):
That's what I would say.
That's what we're trying to do.
Obviously, it's going to be thePlanning Commission makes the
decision on that.
It's not me.
It's the Planning Commissionwill vote on that after a public
hearing.
SPEAKER_08 (28:00):
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Lincoln City does in fact havewhat you'll want to read.
I'm Diana Portwood, and if wehappen to be out of a particular
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SPEAKER_02 (28:14):
Well, our mayor continues to listen, Paul, Mayor
Susan Watkins, because she winsagain.
SPEAKER_11 (28:19):
She wins again, and she wins a$30 gift certificate
SPEAKER_02 (28:22):
from Chinook Wins.
A$30 gift certificate fromChinook Wins Casino Resort.
Good at any of the food outlets,or she can just use it all at
the buffet.
SPEAKER_11 (28:31):
And she won that for answering the question about the
salmon sculpture at the end of51st Street, right?
And the question was, whocrafted it?
And the answer is...
Mr.
Frank Boyden, who was also onthe last episode.
So if you didn't hear lastweek's episode, tune in.
Hear a little bit from Frank andall about Solette's Bay.
SPEAKER_02 (28:50):
Okay, and coming up, we would like to remind
everybody the 30th annual Stuffof Us is going to be Friday,
August 30th, starting at 8o'clock in the morning right
here in Lincoln City, up atLincoln City Outlets.
You can pick up bags with listsof needed school supplies from a
host of businesses around theNorth Lincoln County area.
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and fill it up and bring it backand help us help the children of
North Lincoln County.
2024 Lincoln City PoliceCitizens Academy is coming up
September 3rd.
I think next week we're going tohave more information about
that.
SPEAKER_11 (29:26):
Yeah, Tammy Williams is going to be on and she'll
give everybody the down lowabout how to sign up for that
event.
SPEAKER_02 (29:32):
Lincoln City Chamber of Commerce will be meeting next
Tuesday, I believe it is, andthey invite you to become an
ambassador to Join in shapingthe future as the Chamber
Ambassador.
They're on the lookout forindividuals who are eager to
lead and charge.
And again, for more information,contact the Lincoln City Chamber
of Commerce.
Other activities city-wise,upcoming Planning Commission
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meets Tuesday, August 20th, 6o'clock.
On Wednesday, the 21st, Parksand Recreation Board,
Sustainability Committee, August22nd, and the City Council,
Mayor Susan Wacke, leading thatcharge, if you will, on the 26th
of August, again at 6 o'clock.
Veterans have an opportunity fora free soup and sandwich
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luncheon.
I have not attended this.
I have been told it is one ofthe best Soup and sandwich bars,
any place, anywhere, and it'sfree for all vets.
SPEAKER_11 (30:29):
Yeah, and I think every week it's a different
soup.
I think she was saying that shehasn't repeated that soup recipe
once
SPEAKER_02 (30:36):
yet.
No, twice a month, second andfourth Wednesdays, noon to two,
at the Elks Lodge that's just upthe street from Bi-Mart.
Third annual family picnic forthe North Lincoln District of
Lodges is going to be takingplace again for the Elks Lodge.
on Sunday, August the 25th.
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And let's see, what else do wehave to report
SPEAKER_11 (31:00):
on?
Yeah, well, on Saturday, August24th is Creatures of the Coast.
It's a Gyotaku nature printingworkshop that the Cascade Head
Buyers were collaborativeputting on.
Just go to cascadehead.org toregister.
And there's even discountedprices for a family of four.
So get in there and get yourregistration.
It's Saturday, August 24th from11 to 1.30 at the Pelican
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Brewing Onslaught.
space.
That's always a fun time and itsells out.
It does, yeah.
It's a really popular workshopand it's a great way to enjoy
the bay as well and make someart to take home for your
memories of the Oregon coast.
SPEAKER_02 (31:37):
And hand it down to generation after generation.
And again, anything else to yourside of the table?
I think we're clear from here.
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SPEAKER_02 (00:30):
So thank you, Janna, and welcome to the Double R
Show.
We've got an interesting programagain today.
We're going to talk aboutreplenishing.
SPEAKER_11 (00:37):
Yeah, replenishing the ranks.
So we've got the Alaka Alliancewe're going to be talking with.
Which is?
Alaka is the Chinook jargonword, the trade language word of
Native peoples in this area.
And Alaka means sea otter.
So the Alaka Alliance is anorganization, as we'll find out
from Chanel, about helping tolook to seek to restore...
(00:59):
Sea otters here on the Oregoncoast.
Restoring sea otters.
We also have another topic.
Yeah, we're going to be talkingwith Dr.
Ogden and talking aboutrestoring the ranks of
physicians on the Oregon coast.
Which is desperately needed.
Yes, indeed.
And last but not least.
And lastly, we're going to talkwith an old rank and file from
the old planning department.
Richard Townsend is going to beon the program.
(01:20):
And
SPEAKER_02 (01:20):
Heather Hatton is going to join us as well.
We'll do that and more rightafter this.
SPEAKER_12 (01:26):
Get ready for a night of non-stop fun.
SPEAKER_10 (01:30):
With Tommy
SPEAKER_12 (01:33):
James and the Shondells.
Saturday, August 24th, ChinookWinds Casino Resort.
A lifetime of hits.
All the million sellers.
All the number ones.
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We'll be right back.
SPEAKER_02 (02:26):
Interesting topic, restoring the lost and found of
a legacy of Oregon.
Chanel Haston is with us.
And Chanel, we're talking aboutsea otters.
SPEAKER_07 (02:36):
Yes, we are.
SPEAKER_02 (02:37):
We have lost them?
SPEAKER_07 (02:39):
Well, we didn't lose them.
We hunted them.
Ah,
SPEAKER_02 (02:43):
to near extinction.
SPEAKER_07 (02:44):
To local extinction in Oregon, to be specific.
SPEAKER_02 (02:47):
So what are we doing to regenerate them?
That lost legacy.
SPEAKER_07 (02:52):
So the Alaka Alliance is a nonprofit here in
Oregon.
Alaka is a native word for seaotter.
So I like to say Boomshaka Alakafor people to remember our name
because it's not, doesn't justroll off the tongue.
And so we were created by asluts tribal member, the late
David Hatch.
And so he was actually buildinga boat with his son, Peter, came
(03:13):
across the word Alaka in aChinook jargon dictionary, and
then started to question whathappened to Oregon sea otters
and why It was really importantto bring them back.
And so his legacy lives onthrough the nonprofit Alaka
Alliance.
And we have an incredible boardof directors and now three
full-time staff that are workingto help educate the public, fund
(03:33):
research projects, and worktowards bringing sea otters back
to the Oregon coast.
SPEAKER_02 (03:38):
Three full-time staff, really?
Doing what?
SPEAKER_07 (03:42):
So I was the first ever employee two years ago as
director of outreach andcommunity relations.
And we have an executivedirector, James Bakary.
She is based in Portland.
And then we have a coastalcommunity coordinator down on
the south coast near Coos Bay,Kyle Motley.
SPEAKER_02 (03:58):
And what's the reception from the community?
SPEAKER_07 (04:00):
Mostly really positive.
I mean, they are charismaticanimals.
So that is helpful for usbecause everyone associates
their cute faces based on TVshows on Nat Geo or something
like that, or seeing them forthemselves down off of the
California coast or inWashington or Alaska.
But yeah, mostly positive.
Most times people don't realizethat we don't have sea otters on
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the oregon coast so it's reallygreat to get out and engage with
the public one-on-one and informthem why it's so important to
restore them back on the oregoncoast for cultural significance
ecological and economic
SPEAKER_02 (04:34):
for economic purposes like
SPEAKER_07 (04:37):
like ecotourism
SPEAKER_02 (04:38):
okay
SPEAKER_07 (04:39):
yeah we just funded a south coast tourism study that
suggested a 3.5 million dollarincome per year just to bring
sea otters back to the oregonReally?
$3.5
SPEAKER_02 (04:53):
million turnaround in the economy to sea otters?
SPEAKER_07 (04:58):
Yes.
People love wildlife.
SPEAKER_02 (05:01):
I would have to agree.
So what are we doing?
How are you restoring them?
SPEAKER_07 (05:08):
So it's not us who would do the actual
translocation of sea otters.
That would be the U.S.
Fish and Wildlife Servicebecause they are a marine
protected mammal.
And so what we are doing is alot of the grassroots advocacy.
So that's where we're going outand engaging with the public,
educating them.
We're also funding differentresearch projects to kind of
(05:29):
help better the U.S.
Fish and Wildlife decision to doa reintroduction.
And then we're also working withall the tribal entities on the
coast.
So they are really the ones,hopefully in the future, to take
on this whole initiative.
SPEAKER_02 (05:43):
So it has been the tribes that have been at the
forefront of this?
SPEAKER_07 (05:46):
So we have two tribes online.
on our board.
Currently, the Siletz tribe andthe Sittiklusi, the Koos, Lower
Umpqua, and Siuslaw Indians.
We work closely with theCoquille tribe as well, but we
have letters of approval fromevery coastal tribes to do a sea
otter reintroduction.
And actually, just recently,Siletz and Sittiklusi tribes
(06:07):
sent a letter to Senator of theInterior Deb Haaland to ask her
politely to do a sea otterreintroduction in Oregon because
it is super important.
to them significantly as acultural species.
SPEAKER_02 (06:20):
And is it primarily political advocacy that you're
doing at this point in timethen?
SPEAKER_07 (06:26):
No, we are kind of just starting to ramp that up a
little bit behind the scenes.
But that is an important partonce we get closer to a
potential reintroduction to beput on the table by U.S.
Fish and Wildlife Service.
SPEAKER_02 (06:39):
So you're funded how?
SPEAKER_07 (06:41):
By the people.
We are a 501c3 nonprofit.
So we get by through individualsdonations, through corporate
donations, businesses,foundations.
We don't have like a sole entitythat is funding us.
We write a lot of grants.
I'll say that.
Or Jane does, my executivedirector.
And so, yeah, we're doing well,though.
SPEAKER_02 (07:04):
Doing well in income or in exposure?
All of the above.
Yeah,
SPEAKER_07 (07:10):
yeah.
But, you know, we are anonprofit and small, so we do
need help from the generalpublic in terms of just
spreading awareness about seaotters not being on the Oregon
coast and what happened to themand our kelp forests in Oregon
right now we've lost abouttwo-thirds of our original kelp
forests due to different factorsincluding climate change and
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also the sea urchins which eatkelp right now don't have their
top predators in the ecosystemso everything's out of balance
so they're basicallyoverpopulating and eating all
the kelp forests which is thefoundation for that entire
ecosystem for that thousands ofspecies.
So if we don't do something now,it could be super detrimental to
everyone on the coast andinland, the whole Oregon state.
SPEAKER_02 (07:57):
Not good to mess with Mother Nature, is it?
SPEAKER_07 (08:00):
No, it's not.
SPEAKER_02 (08:01):
It can come back and bite you.
And in this instance, it has.
How many pairs would you like tosee reintroduced on the central
Oregon coast?
SPEAKER_07 (08:11):
So we published a feasibility study in 2022 with
basically the top six sea otterscientists of the world.
And they stated that it isfeasible to do a reintroduction.
Tim Tinker, Dr.
Tim Tinker created an ORSOmodel, which is basically a lot
of beautiful statistics whereyou can enter the number of sea
otters you would like in alocation on the Oregon coast
(08:34):
between males and females.
And then it shows theirpotential positive outcome of
how they would survive.
And so based on that, it'sprobably around 50 or so sea
otters in one location.
SPEAKER_02 (08:48):
Again, if people want more information, want to
become involved, we do what?
SPEAKER_07 (08:53):
You can visit our website, which can be found at
oregonseotters.org, if you don'tknow how to spell Alaka
Alliance.
And we're on all the socialmedia platforms at Alaka
Alliance.
I run all of that.
So hopefully I'll see an uptickof numbers once you listen to
this show.
But yep, find us on there.
We also have a really wonderfulYouTube channel if you really
(09:15):
want to dive deep into ourprevious webinars and seminars.
SPEAKER_02 (09:19):
It's an animal that everybody seems to want to see
Yes,
SPEAKER_07 (09:26):
it is a great poster child, but they're also really
significant for our coastalecosystems as a keystone
species, keeping everything inbalance.
So we're very happy that theyare very cute and charismatic
looking, but also they're somuch more than just a pretty
face.
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SPEAKER_02 (10:32):
There are new doctors in the house, if you
will.
With us is Dr.
Leslie Ogden from SamaritanNorth Lincoln Hospital.
You have a number of newresidents here in Lincoln City.
SPEAKER_04 (10:43):
Well, they are in Lincoln City and they are all
over Lincoln County.
And
SPEAKER_02 (10:48):
they're coming from?
SPEAKER_04 (10:49):
Well, all over the United States.
And in some cases, the world,actually.
What we started, we had a dreammany years ago.
And thanks to funding from boththe state and the federal
government, we were able toapply for and start a family
(11:09):
medicine rural residency tracktraining program.
So this is to take doctors thathave graduated from medical
school and train them in thespecialty area of rural family
medicine.
SPEAKER_02 (11:24):
And it really is totally different than the big
city.
SPEAKER_04 (11:27):
It really is totally different than the big city.
The depth and breadth of thethings that doctors see in rural
areas and the expectation thatthey will be able to handle,
right?
That you don't always have aspecialist at your elbow in a
rural area.
And so even though we're veryspoiled in a lot of ways and we
have a lot more specialty carethan I can even name sometimes
(11:51):
in our area, it is a differentpractice of medicine in a rural
setting.
SPEAKER_02 (11:56):
Now, you have nine new residents throughout Lincoln
County?
Well, they're not
SPEAKER_04 (12:02):
all new to us.
So let me explain how it works.
So we started two years ago, westarted the program and we had
our first three residents startwith us.
Dr.
Rice, Dr.
Boyke, and Dr.
Al Jazeeri.
They've gone through two yearsof the program.
It's a three-year program intotal.
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They are starting theirpost-graduate year three, PGY,
their PGY threes, and this willbe the last year of their
training.
And likewise, we are startingOur first group of second years
are coming through.
And I shouldn't say first groupbecause actually the first three
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finished up their second year.
So this is the second group ofsecond years coming through.
And then likewise, we have threecoming in as interns.
So all together, it's nineresidents that we're training.
It's just the first year theytrain in Corvallis, Portland,
and some of the bigger marketsaround trying to get a lot
(13:04):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (13:18):
How do you attract a doctor into rural family
medicine?
SPEAKER_04 (13:22):
Well, I'll tell you what, I think a lot of it is by
the reputation of the programactually out of Corvallis that
has been going for many, manyyears.
But there aren't that many ruralfamily medicine training
programs in the United States.
Even in our own state, there isa program in Klamath Falls,
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there's our program, and thenthere's a startup program in
Redmond.
And that's it for rural familymedicine.
So if someone is searching forus, they are finding us and we
are very competitive becausethere's just not that many
programs.
SPEAKER_02 (14:01):
You really go out onto the market soliciting,
seeking these people to come tothe rural hospitals.
SPEAKER_04 (14:08):
Absolutely.
We interview tons of differentapplicants and we decide the
ones that are best for us.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (14:16):
What do you look for in that applicant?
SPEAKER_04 (14:18):
Well, we First of all, we look for somebody who's
truly interested in ruralemergency medicine, right?
And you would think that wouldself-select, but, you know,
you've just got to make surethat that's really what people
are looking for.
Because what we don't want to dois we don't want to train a
bunch of people who end up goinginto another specialty or doing
(14:38):
something different.
We really want them to beinvested in rural family
medicine and stay in ruralfamily medicine.
SPEAKER_02 (14:46):
And stay here.
SPEAKER_04 (14:47):
And stay here, you guys.
it because there's not arequirement that once they
finish their training they stayhere but they are being trained
in rural family medicine and wewill have rural family medicine
jobs for them when they finishso the hope is that the majority
of them stay and that if we cangraduate three every year so
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after next year those three willgraduate and then three after
that and three after that everyyear if we can graduate three
rural family medicine physiciansthat we can save ourselves from
the shortage of physicians thatis happening to us right now.
SPEAKER_02 (15:28):
What kind of position are we in right now?
as far as the need for moredoctors?
SPEAKER_04 (15:35):
We are in a situation where as our older
doctors are retiring, and manyof them are or have been over
the past few years, we arestruggling to find replacement
physicians for them.
There are other types ofproviders, and thank goodness,
(15:55):
right?
There are nurse practitionersand PAs, but there are just not
the number of physicians that weneed to take care of all of us
across the United States.
So we are really hoping thatthis training program puts them
in our backyard.
It puts them where they'recomfortable with us, where they
(16:15):
know our patients becausethey're their patients as well,
and it will make them want tostay with us.
SPEAKER_02 (16:21):
I would have to think that they become invested
in that patient after a courseof three years of dealing with
that person.
SPEAKER_04 (16:30):
Yes, and that is part of the hope and part of how
the the programs are set up toencourage just that
SPEAKER_02 (16:39):
so nine that's that's a lot of bodies that's
that's a lot of uh medicalprofessionals put into the mix
here in in lincoln gutty or isit the entire samaritan system
SPEAKER_04 (16:52):
no no it is just that first year where they spend
in corvallis but the remainderso the the six that are within
their second year or third yearor training here in Lincoln
County exclusively.
And it is really amazing.
They are based out of PacificCommunities Hospital in Newport
because that's where we had thespace to, we didn't know when we
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built these hospitals that wewere actually going to need that
amount of space.
It is required by the graduatemedical education powers that
be, but it makes sense.
They need space for theirdidactics to do all of the work
that they do, and they needclinic space, right, to see
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patients.
So we've set them up in Newport,but they actually rotate all
around Lincoln County, and we'llsee them increasingly in so many
different places becausethere'll be six of them all
around us.
SPEAKER_02 (17:50):
In our hospitals.
SPEAKER_04 (17:51):
In our hospitals.
SPEAKER_02 (17:53):
With us, Dr.
Leslie Ogden, Samaritan NorthLincoln Hospital.
Back in a
SPEAKER_00 (17:57):
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SPEAKER_10 (18:23):
Yeah, there's, you know, classic cars.
And we got the sound off, ofcourse, again.
And we're excited about it.
SPEAKER_02 (18:29):
Now, the classic car show is Saturday.
SPEAKER_10 (18:33):
It's all day Saturday.
And you can register from 8 to11 a.m.
And you'll register directlywith the Angels Anonymous crew
that is helping us out.
And all the net proceeds aregoing to go to Angels Anonymous.
And then the next day is oursound off.
And there's a big raffle thathappens on sound
SPEAKER_02 (18:49):
off day.
It's huge.
SPEAKER_10 (18:50):
It's really, really big.
And we don't even contribute theraffle items.
It's all contributed by thesponsors of that event.
And they just love contributingto Angels Anonymous.
They've really become goodfriends.
A lot of you guys know them sowell.
And it's fun to see John Bairdand Jim and you and everybody
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down there it's
SPEAKER_02 (19:13):
amazing to me I've never seen so many hundred
dollar bills come into one boothin my life
SPEAKER_10 (19:21):
and mostly from out of town
SPEAKER_02 (19:23):
participants almost exclusively
SPEAKER_10 (19:24):
yeah and you know you see these kids run up and
wanting to win stuff and it'sjust I mean it's a family event
and so obviously over the yearsyou know we've gotten some flack
for the Sunday sound off becauseit is loud and we get it and I
mean I work marketing and Iunderstand but you know it's
almost like that it's awonderful life every time you
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hear a bell ring
SPEAKER_03 (19:47):
you know
SPEAKER_10 (19:47):
an angel gets his wings and I feel like every time
you hear the sound off and youknow angels are getting money
SPEAKER_02 (19:53):
and a lot of money a
SPEAKER_10 (19:54):
lot of money it's over 25,000 I think last year is
what we raised and we didn'traise it I mean we provide the
opportunity we provide the venueand we provide the conduit for
that fundraising but reallyangels does the work of of
selling it being there all dayyou know, John with his
headphones on, you know, becauseit's so loud.
(20:15):
And so, you know, you guys dothe work and we really
appreciate that partnership.
Like when we did Beach Pick anda Bruise, we appreciate the
partnership with all thecharities, the chamber that
organizes all those charities,our picnic event where we
donated, you know, we raised$2,000.
Our team members raised$2,000for North Lincoln Fire
Volunteer.
(20:35):
And then we reached out to theChildren's Advocacy Center who
came and helped clean up.
And we couldn't do a lot of ourevents without that partnership
SPEAKER_02 (20:42):
quickly we've got just a short period of time
upcoming concerts would include
SPEAKER_10 (20:48):
Tommy Jane right what is it Tommy Jones
SPEAKER_02 (20:51):
Tommy James and the Shondells I had it all pulled
SPEAKER_10 (20:55):
up and I'm really excited about them and then the
other ones is the Black RabbitBeatles tribute so Tommy James
and the Shondells you're not oldenough I'm not I am 24th and
then the 31st is the BlackRabbit Beatles tribute and then
we've also got some ElmarieSchnobaner coming
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I'm Richard Townsend, PlanningProjects Manager, City of
Lincoln City.
You have that title, but youhave been the Planning Director
on and off again for 410 years.
No, just 20 years.
Just 20 years.
20, just
SPEAKER_13 (21:58):
20.
And three times.
SPEAKER_02 (22:00):
Third time is charm.
SPEAKER_13 (22:02):
Well, the third time's over, so it was charming.
Now, is planning projectsmanager, what's that all about?
There's a series of projectsthat I'm working on that are
sort of a little bit outside themain part of what the planning
department does or take up a lotof time.
(22:22):
And so I've got the time to workon them, so I'm working on them.
One of the biggest is theVillages at Cascade Head
property, where there was...
So many conditions of approvalthat were originally applied,
first in the original masterplan back in 1998, and then in
(22:43):
the refined master plan, andthen in the individual plans for
the various, what they callblocks of land up there.
Around 200 conditions ofapproval, and several of them
ended up being pretty onerousand ended up really deterring
anybody from developing upthere.
SPEAKER_02 (23:05):
So when you're talking about those many
stumbling blocks in someinstances, how do you get rid of
them?
SPEAKER_13 (23:13):
Well, it would require a hearing at the
Planning Commission, and theywould have to just adopt the
change to the master plan.
So that's what I'm workingtowards.
And there'll be a publichearing, public notice, and a
meeting at the PlanningCommission, and we'll make a
decision.
UNKNOWN (23:29):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (23:30):
It would seem to me that a lot of people would sit
in the background and say, well,Richard Townsend is working for
the city.
Why would he want to be gettingrid of these line items, if you
will, instead of not puttingmore on?
Well,
SPEAKER_13 (23:46):
the conditions that we're thinking of really didn't
help anything very much.
There was a whole series of themrelated to something called the
Environmental ComplianceOfficer.
which the developer was supposedto have.
They did have it once, and allthat person did was try to
(24:07):
figure out, because they were anemployee of the developer, They
were trying to figure out waysaround the rules rather than
trying to enforce the rules.
And a number of the rules, asI've said, were onerous and
really didn't accomplish much.
It was sort of window dressingtype stuff that sometimes when a
developer wants to do somethingfairly controversial, they'll
(24:30):
throw in all these things.
I'm willing to do this.
I'll do this.
I'll do this.
I'll do this.
I'll do this.
And to sort of make it seemlike, oh, this is a great
project.
And in When a differentdeveloper comes in, it ends up
being a project for them.
Like right now, of the village'sproperty, the city owns most of
it, but there's a lot that thecity doesn't own.
(24:51):
And the parts that the citydoesn't own, that are privately
owned, are for sale, but they'renot moving.
And one of the big reasonsbehind that is these conditions
of approval.
SPEAKER_02 (25:04):
Would the same thing hold true for parcels that the
city would be wanting to sell aswell, Greg?
SPEAKER_13 (25:10):
To some extent, yeah.
It affects all the propertyowners.
So it certainly affects thecity, which it may sound like
there's a conflict here.
But what we're trying to do israther than just have that land
be sitting as it's, you know, itgot approval in 1998.
You know, that's what, 26 yearsago.
To me, that's pretty much thedefinition of a failed
(25:32):
development.
If of the 1,829 units that wereapproved for it, 12 have been
built.
So, you know, it's a lot ofwork.
There's something wrong, andwe're trying to fix that.
SPEAKER_02 (25:43):
In all of the years that you've been involved with
that project, you've seen itall, have you not?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I've
SPEAKER_13 (25:49):
got a long history with it because, like I said, it
was approved in 98.
I first started working for thecity at the end of 99.
So I've sort of seen it all theway through and seen what's
happened.
It's been an interesting saga tosee how it's come and gone and
how the recession affected itand those kinds of things.
SPEAKER_02 (26:12):
What are we seeing now?
Is there activity happening?
Are there people looking at it?
Or is it something you can't seeanything
SPEAKER_13 (26:20):
about?
The only thing that's happeningand sort of in a way isn't
happening is the city on twopieces of city land, we have
exclusive negotiating agreementsin effect.
One is what we call Fernwood,which is, you see that sort of
horse-shaped sort of ruffed inroad.
(26:42):
We're negotiating with someoneabout residential development
there.
And that's still going on.
It has been for some time.
And then there's another piecewhere we're working with someone
on what we'll call sort ofneighborhood scale commercial
development in there.
SPEAKER_02 (27:01):
So the entire project does not have to be
taken over by one individual.
It's broken up in severaldifferent parcels.
SPEAKER_13 (27:08):
That's right.
When it was first approved,there were several blocks, and
there was Block A, Block B,Block C.
I know it goes up through atleast Block O.
There's lots of blocks.
The city owns most of them, butthere's some that it doesn't.
And actually, the tribe owns 50acres of the property up there,
too, that The original developertransferred to them for
(27:32):
expansion of the golf course.
Many years ago, but I'm not surewhat, I actually have no idea
what the tribe's plan is
SPEAKER_02 (27:41):
for that land.
Easy to say or get it to besaid, you are eliminating some
of the stumbling blocks.
SPEAKER_13 (27:48):
That's what I would say.
That's what we're trying to do.
Obviously, it's going to be thePlanning Commission makes the
decision on that.
It's not me.
It's the Planning Commissionwill vote on that after a public
hearing.
SPEAKER_08 (28:00):
Bob's Speech Books in the Ocean Lake area of
Lincoln City does in fact havewhat you'll want to read.
I'm Diana Portwood, and if wehappen to be out of a particular
bestseller, in a day or twowe'll have it back in the store
waiting for you.
Bob's Speech Books, so you canjoin the conversation.
SPEAKER_02 (28:14):
Well, our mayor continues to listen, Paul, Mayor
Susan Watkins, because she winsagain.
SPEAKER_11 (28:19):
She wins again, and she wins a$30 gift certificate
SPEAKER_02 (28:22):
from Chinook Wins.
A$30 gift certificate fromChinook Wins Casino Resort.
Good at any of the food outlets,or she can just use it all at
the buffet.
SPEAKER_11 (28:31):
And she won that for answering the question about the
salmon sculpture at the end of51st Street, right?
And the question was, whocrafted it?
And the answer is...
Mr.
Frank Boyden, who was also onthe last episode.
So if you didn't hear lastweek's episode, tune in.
Hear a little bit from Frank andall about Solette's Bay.
SPEAKER_02 (28:50):
Okay, and coming up, we would like to remind
everybody the 30th annual Stuffof Us is going to be Friday,
August 30th, starting at 8o'clock in the morning right
here in Lincoln City, up atLincoln City Outlets.
You can pick up bags with listsof needed school supplies from a
host of businesses around theNorth Lincoln County area.
(29:11):
and fill it up and bring it backand help us help the children of
North Lincoln County.
2024 Lincoln City PoliceCitizens Academy is coming up
September 3rd.
I think next week we're going tohave more information about
that.
SPEAKER_11 (29:26):
Yeah, Tammy Williams is going to be on and she'll
give everybody the down lowabout how to sign up for that
event.
SPEAKER_02 (29:32):
Lincoln City Chamber of Commerce will be meeting next
Tuesday, I believe it is, andthey invite you to become an
ambassador to Join in shapingthe future as the Chamber
Ambassador.
They're on the lookout forindividuals who are eager to
lead and charge.
And again, for more information,contact the Lincoln City Chamber
of Commerce.
Other activities city-wise,upcoming Planning Commission
(29:54):
meets Tuesday, August 20th, 6o'clock.
On Wednesday, the 21st, Parksand Recreation Board,
Sustainability Committee, August22nd, and the City Council,
Mayor Susan Wacke, leading thatcharge, if you will, on the 26th
of August, again at 6 o'clock.
Veterans have an opportunity fora free soup and sandwich
(30:17):
luncheon.
I have not attended this.
I have been told it is one ofthe best Soup and sandwich bars,
any place, anywhere, and it'sfree for all vets.
SPEAKER_11 (30:29):
Yeah, and I think every week it's a different
soup.
I think she was saying that shehasn't repeated that soup recipe
once
SPEAKER_02 (30:36):
yet.
No, twice a month, second andfourth Wednesdays, noon to two,
at the Elks Lodge that's just upthe street from Bi-Mart.
Third annual family picnic forthe North Lincoln District of
Lodges is going to be takingplace again for the Elks Lodge.
on Sunday, August the 25th.
(30:56):
And let's see, what else do wehave to report
SPEAKER_11 (31:00):
on?
Yeah, well, on Saturday, August24th is Creatures of the Coast.
It's a Gyotaku nature printingworkshop that the Cascade Head
Buyers were collaborativeputting on.
Just go to cascadehead.org toregister.
And there's even discountedprices for a family of four.
So get in there and get yourregistration.
It's Saturday, August 24th from11 to 1.30 at the Pelican
(31:22):
Brewing Onslaught.
space.
That's always a fun time and itsells out.
It does, yeah.
It's a really popular workshopand it's a great way to enjoy
the bay as well and make someart to take home for your
memories of the Oregon coast.
SPEAKER_02 (31:37):
And hand it down to generation after generation.
And again, anything else to yourside of the table?
I think we're clear from here.
And that'll do it to the doingson the Double R Show.
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(31:58):
Have yourself a happy day.
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