July 29, 2025 • 26 mins
🎧 Special Guest: Jenny — Lifestyle Unicorn, Dating Pro, and CND Favorite
In this juicy sit-down, Jenny — a single female who's been part of the Down & Dirty circle for years — shares what it's really like dating in and out of the lifestyle. From first-date disclosures to navigating clingy couples, she's got tips, warnings, and hilarious stories from both sides of the swinger scene.
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- Would you tell a vanilla you're in the lifestyle… on the first date?
- How often is too often for a hall pass?
- The do's and don'ts of approaching a unicorn at a party
- What makes a “tasteful” dick pic (and what doesn’t!)
- The vibe at Iowa swing events vs. CND takeovers
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All right, so Miss Dahl, Jenny, we could talk about what we were
just talking about Miss Doll. Like I said, we were.
I was asking Jenny here so aboutdating in the lifestyle.
And what we were saying is, is that I said, God forbid nothing
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happens to the Dean. But if I had to go back on
Tinder in the world, like I could never be with someone who
was not in the lifestyle or didn't know about it.
And I said, but the weird part about that is if I went on a
tender date, it would be so awkward for me to tell a vanilla
what I do or who I am in the lifestyle.
I would think that would be weird for me.
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But I could not be with a straight vanilla person ever.
Do you have to? Agree.
Yeah, there's no way I could do it.
There's no way. Once the toothpaste is out, man,
once the people will taste the blood.
It's just it, I think. Yeah, obviously there's a lot
that transpires when you enter the lifestyle, right?
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But a fair amount of it is due to the simple fact that you
literally have to open up everything about you and you
become very open like that. And then trying to backtrack
into, oh, we don't talk about that.
We just sweep it under the rug. I don't want to talk about that.
Do you want to talk about that? Yeah, of course I do.
But you don't this constant likebattle.
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And I would just rather I'll just stay single.
You know, I've already said this.
Once the cowboy's gone, that's it.
Like I'm just going to float so low.
Well, we didn't introduce our our guest that we have Jenny is
on. That's what we're going to refer
to tonight. She is a single female friend
who has been around a friend of the show.
Actually, she's been a Co host on the show down and dirty in
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like season 2 and she was on oneof the single female episodes.
So welcome again, Jenny. Thank you.
Thank you. For having me, it's super great
to be back. Yeah, Yeah.
Did you hear what we were just talking about, about dating?
I guess it's a little different for you because you're a single
female, so you're probably stilldating.
Yeah, lifestyle and outside of the lifestyle.
Yeah, so. Date someone if they said I
can't be in a lifestyle with youwhat?
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Would you? Would you better do it?
Is there any Dick that good? I would really, it would really
have to turn me. It'd have to be like you got me
wanting to come home every nightfor that.
But I think the only thing that would truly like if somebody
didn't want to be part of the lifestyle with me, if they were
OK with me still like having a hall pass type deal, I would be
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OK with that. But if I could never, how often?
Would you need that hall pass? Honestly like once a week?
Once a month. I think it just.
Truly depends. No, I'm the dude.
I need to negotiate this. We need to negotiate this every
January 1 so we know where we stand on your hall passes and
where we're going to be at. So if you had to pick one.
I feel like once a week, twice amonth, twice a month is
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reasonable. I feel like that's a fair.
Yes, that's a fair meeting point.
I think once a. Week, we'll even give you the
whole weekend we'll give you thewhole weekend too.
Twice a month, whole weekend. There you go.
Friday night through Sunday morning you get.
That's all I need. That's all I need to go crazy.
See, that's how the negotiation goes.
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That's how it goes over here at the at the Dean and I's house.
Exactly. But yeah, I definitely could
never, never go back to just being a vanilla person.
I would always have to be involved with my lifestyle,
people, whether it just being friends or being in that
environment, whether I'm playing.
I, I can't ever truly let these people go.
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Lifestyle people are just more fun.
Not just that, but now I want toask since you have, you have
done both sides right, what is it?
What is it like being able to like tell some guy vanilla wise
that you have been seeing and all of a sudden you're telling
him, but yeah, I'm lifestyle andwhat is his reaction usually or
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like and. When does that happen?
Is that the first date or is that like down the line?
So typically I try to get that out on the first date on most of
my dating profiles. I'm very open about me being
Polly ENM. Any of those, you know, open to
all of them, whatever it may be.So usually that's you gets that
out of the way. But if I meet somebody, just
naturally, I tried it on the first date, let them know so
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that they don't have any expectations of me moving
forward or they don't have this perception of me that may not be
true. I guess.
Because you know, once you talk about that, like you said,
toothpaste is already out of thetube, you can't put it back and
people are going to view you differently, whether it's
positive or negative. So, but to answer your question,
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Misses doll, I think the reaction is typically just what
how does that work? What do you do?
And you get to wear what I. Told her earlier, I said.
I've never actually told a vanilla.
I've never had to end almost 30 years of doing this.
I've never had to sit down a true vanilla person and be like,
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you know what we do now? The Dean tells people all the
time. At every bar outing we go to,
the Dean tells somebody at that bar that.
Doesn't surprise me. She tells somebody at that bar
nose. I mean, after the whole cruise
incident, I wouldn't you know, she kind of, you know, just get
it out there, just. Which is crazy because that is
the first time we've ever just done it with people in the wild.
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And she tells people in the wildlike, yeah, that's my husband
kissing that girl up there, Like, so she tells them they
don't need to know that I'm her husband all the time.
Now, Jenny, you're in Iowa, right?
OK. Now tell the people a little bit
about yourself. How how do we know each other?
You come to events here, but do you also go to events in Iowa?
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What's what's the scene like in Iowa?
The lifestyle scene? Yeah.
So I started going to events in Minnesota and that's where I
found my C&D people and obviously that's where my heart
truly always lies. More recently I have been
getting more into the lifestyle scene in this area and it is
still a little bit newer here, but they do have a really good
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community here and the one thingI've found is being a swinger is
pretty much the same everywhere.We're all about good vibes,
having a fun even the fuck. Even the events I've been to are
just super similar, like we're all just roaming the hallways
talking to each other, meeting up with all the old friends.
Now as Iowa, do they have on premise clubs there are you
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don't hotel takeovers? What?
What style party is it? They have, I think they have
like 2 swinger clubs in Iowa. I have personally never been to
them but I know there's a couplebut the one.
I've heard of one in Des Moines that I've never been.
Club G, that's the one that's super.
Popular. Yeah.
And then there is one that's in Peoria, IL, which is about an
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hour and a half where I'm from that just recently opened, can't
remember the name of it because they're very like Incognito.
So it's like super hush hush type deal.
They. Don't want member.
They don't want members yet. Well, they do, but they kind of
like post it on Reddit and it's like very backdoor Speakeasy.
Vibe. They put that thing on the dark
web. Yeah, yeah.
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That's how you know it's a. Little bit a.
Little bit sketchy but you know more.
Props to them. It's nice to have more stuff in
the area, but the events I've been to are like meet and greets
and hotel takeovers. Same type of vibe as C&D.
OK, cool. Cool.
I've I've never really parted inIowa.
I've been to a few like private things there, but not to Club G
or any hotel takeovers. But no, when was the last time
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we were just talking about this?Last time I saw you was here at
Mardi Gras. March Party.
March Party. March party.
Yeah. So you've been coming to our
events for a few years now. Yeah, since. 20/22/2021 I think.
One of those and what is your, what is your favorite type of
party? What do you What do you prefer?
I always love the hotel takeovers and you know,
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Halloween's my favorite because it's right around my birthday,
so it's the best way to celebrate a birthday with a
bunch of other swingers. This is very true.
It is the holiday. It is the holiday now.
Now how is it now? This is like we're getting like
a secret single female episode and asking all these damn
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questions. How do you like, I know you
usually bring some of your friends with you that are also
single females. How is it for you guys going to
events as single females? What's the experience like?
Give us give us the like the lens of what a single female
looks like that. I think it's a lot of fun for us
because I mean, who doesn't lovea Unicorn?
And then when you put two of them together, it's even more
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fun. And we always try to just bring
good vibes and try to be as respectful as possible when it
comes to the people in the lifestyle because ultimately the
lifestyle is about couples. I mean, yes, everybody wants a
Unicorn that we're here as I feel like, as guests, as single
people, just being able to be around everybody and being able
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to party with everybody without necessarily having to bring a
partner that is my sexual partner is also definitely A
plus. Get the float around like you
want to float around. Yes, yes, I got somebody that I
can kind of go back and talk to that's not a sexual partner, but
also somebody that, you know, I can have those conversations
with if I'm feeling uncomfortable.
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Now I'm gonna help these people out, Miss Doll.
I'm gonna help the people out. What?
Pro tip. Ready, ready for the single,
ready for the pro tip sound effect.
Jenny, why don't you help you help me help the people out If
these people 'cause everybody weknow, every fucking body in the
world is looking for a single female.
Everyone who just signed up today, don't look for a Unicorn
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right now. Give them the tips.
What is a tip? What are do's and don'ts when
approaching a single female at aparty or approaching them
online? What do you go like OK I got you
in the door without giving too many your secrets away or beat
it, never hit me up again. I say help them out, help them
out. The do's are make yourself
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known. Make it known that you know if
you have a crush, whatever, or if you're interested in playing,
just make it known but don't latch on.
I think, and this happens to couples too, a lot of.
People, you get a lot of latchers.
Yep, they tend to latch on to people and get feel like a
strong connection. Or when you're at a party,
they'll just wanna follow you around and be around you the
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whole night because they want something to happen, which I
totally understand. But at the same time, when
you're trying to enjoy a party, that's not necessarily something
that you want. It's nice to have somebody
that's just like, hey, I'm here if you want to without the
pressure. Good tip, good tip.
Yeah. And I agree, that does happen as
couples too sometimes. Really.
Especially if you bring in someone new at their first
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event. They're like, oh, I know you,
I'm going to find you and I'm going to follow you around.
No, please don't. Yeah.
It's like, go ventro, go make your.
Own trouble please. Yes, exactly.
Go make your own trouble 1st andthen come back and tell me how
it went. Yeah, go have some sex and then
report back, yeah. Don't shadow me, please go find
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your own fun. All right, now you got to give
them what? What do you give them?
That's a that's a Definitely don't.
If you have any more don'ts before you give them the big do
they all want to do, Everybody'swaiting here for the do.
I think that's pretty much it for the don'ts.
I just you people that do too much or try to make themselves
too known as the big don't. The do is just be honest you
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know, and don't try to put me inthe middle of your BS.
If you're having a relationship problems, don't.
I don't want to be here to save it.
I just am about having fun. So if I'm with a couple and
we're going out on a date, I want to enjoy the day and
potentially have room to play. I don't want to feel like
there's pressure. You get that a lot so.
I. Yeah, like a lot of drama.
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Once in a while, do you? Is it more drama for you than
than like cool being cool? Is it more you find more drama
with people than you do like it and what's move?
It's, I think it's equal betweenlike being in a couple and like
being a single female. The drama's always going to be
there, but it's just more uncomfortable when you're a
single female because like in a party, if you have a friend with
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you, you can go back and talk tothem.
But if you're out on a date withthis couple and something
happens, you don't necessarily have anybody that you can go and
say like, holy crap, what what just happened?
I get it. Yeah.
So definitely just be respectfulis like the biggest thing I
would say. Be respectful, make yourself
known, don't be pushy. All right, you heard it right
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from a single female. So when you're looking for those
unicorns, make sure you're not a, what they call them fifth
stage, clinger, whatever. Don't be a Twinkie.
Person now, what about now, whatabout online?
Because that's always, obviouslythat's where it's going to be
more prevalent, right? Like you're not always going to
get a, you're not always going to get approached at a takeover
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or at the bar or whatever. Most of the time you're going to
get hit up on the site ASAP because you got one couple that
came in and they've decided all of a sudden, hey, I want a
threesome and we only want it with a female.
Online, it's definitely a lot harder because you can't see
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people's body language to necessarily gauge like how
genuine they are and you know, if you'll actually vibe with
them. But I think it's kind of goes
very similar for online interactions.
Like just be respectful. Don't send me if we're just
having, if you just met me, don't send me a 5 page paragraph
of why you want to have sex witha Unicorn.
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Like I don't need all that. Do you like Dick pic?
Every once in a while if it's solicited.
She passed up. You don't like soliciting Dick
pics? No, like if it's like same type
of thing, like we just started, you're talking don't just don't
straight up send me the sausage.I don't.
Like I wanna. I wanna at least know your first
thing you know what's your favorite color is first.
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That's. Like my thing?
That's like my thing. Now I wanna know which women
actually like Dick pics. I don't know why.
Some of them do. I like the taste.
It's it's not bad. See tasteful.
It has to be don't send a flacidDick.
Get some, get some grapes a little doily.
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Yeah. Don't.
All right, I know, I know. For my next Dick pic shooting
now what I'm going to do. You're not even going to do it.
I don't even know why you're even.
Put a little hat on it or something.
Now that's entertaining. That's.
A little hat, little whiskers onthat my bucket.
The only way I'll ever see you doing it is like the SNL skit.
Where? Justin Timberlake did it with
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the box. All right, that's the.
Only time I should be. That will ever be in a picture
is in a box. Well, both of you ladies, I have
a question for you. Will you be well, what was it
last What? When was the last time I saw you
guys? I haven't seen Miss Dawn a
while. Were either of you at the pool
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party in July? No, I wasn't, No.
No, yeah, that was 4th of July. It got rained out.
So we, you know, didn't really do anything that day.
So now the next pool party is inAugust.
Pool. Pool season is getting ruined.
I will tell you that. Pool season by the weather is
getting ruined. We have two more chances to
redeem ourselves. So everybody keep your fingers
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crossed. And we just had glow 2.
Neither of you made glow 2 either, right?
No. I didn't.
That was that was a great one. It's always it's fun in the
summertime to get a a a Group. A good group of people together
usually get smaller stuff in thesummertime, but but that one
parties. Are always fun to.
Do Why do people love glow parties so much?
Adults like that. Kitties lit up, ass lit up, all
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of it is real enticing. Adults love glow parties.
It's crazy. Yeah.
So we had that. That was a great time at the the
mansion there. So that will be the last one we
have at the mansion for a while.But what we do have coming up,
we have a party. I don't know when this drops
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producer, but we have a meet andgreet and Sioux Falls for the
Sioux Falls listeners for the eye candy group out there to
live 19th July 29th. I don't think that's.
Right, that's when there's no, that's when this drops.
Oh, gotcha, gotcha. OK, you missed it.
But Sioux Falls people, there will be more meet greets, but we
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do have the Hoedown coming up there for September.
Check out for that. But the next event we'll be
having in Minnesota will be the Brass Rail on August 9th.
Miss Doll, will you be at that one?
Your face tells me no. That's a, that's like a 3070
face right there. He was like 30.
No, sadly we will not be at thatone.
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I can see from your face I was like.
The pool party, Yes, the will. The 30th we'll be at the pool
party for sure. We'll see you then, Jenny.
And we will be at the White Party.
Will you be in attendance? You're jumping the gun and they
tell him about the White Party yet?
Again there. Close Jenny, will you be at the
the Downtown party August night?Unfortunately, no, I won't be.
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I will be at one of the next pool parties, the one that's
before the August 30th 1:00, butwon't be able to make that
unfortunately. All right, all right.
Well, for those of you listening, August 9th will be at
the Brass Row. That's our red hot event.
So that is we take over a whole bar right in the heart of
downtown Minneapolis. And the great part about this
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bar is it has a nudity license. So ladies, you can wear skimpy
shit, you can be topless if you want.
There's triple. Be topless.
Yeah, you can be topless. I allow it.
The city of Minneapolis, it's not me.
The city of the state of Minnesota allows it, I guess.
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So yes, it's a cool, as my wife the Bean says quaint spot.
So it gets very. Small for a lot of.
People. So we get like the last party it
was, it was real busy, the last one that we did there.
It was that one was very, very busy.
Yeah, so you get a lot of people.
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Standing outside, out front. Yeah, we have a Patty.
There's a, it's a inside outsidesort of set up so you can,
there's a patio area connected just for our group, private
group, but it's right on the Main Street there.
So there's that aspect too. But yeah, come on out.
It's going to be hot hopefully since it was like 60° here
today, but it's going to be hot August 9th.
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Come out in your hot red outfits.
Come join us for that then afterthat.
And the reason why I'm mentioning this now is because
on couples nextdoor.com, this event is posted already.
It has a hotel takeover. It is the White Party which is
becoming a fan favorite. And I changed the dates.
It used to be back in May and everyone was like, professor, we
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don't have our tans yet and you can't get white clothes yet, so
we switched it. To, I mean, technically you
should have just made that hotelglow party too, because yeah,
that's kind of yeah, right. I'll bring the.
One in white. White skin several weeks.
So yeah, that's going to be a hotel takeover and those rooms
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are almost sold out. So if you need one, I would book
now. That's going to be September 6th
and that's going to be in the Twin Cities area.
For those of you listening all over Twin Cities area, September
6th. All of these events are on
Couples nextdoor.com. You have to be on Couples
nextdoor.com to go to these events.
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Miss Doll, any tips for the White Party for that hotel take
right? Have you been to a White Party
before? Yes, have been to the White
Party before that was we hosted a room crawl or we were part of
the room. Gotcha.
Again, as always, wear comfy shoes.
A lot of walking around there isthere is an elevator we've given
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stories on. This.
Please do not over pack the elevator, it will stop
functioning. So be smart, be adults, OK?
Ladies, is it hard to find whitelingerie or white alpha?
It's actually no, it's super easy to find.
It is. It just a lot of bridal stuff.
Pretty much. Like you can do Amazon.
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Sheen always has a really good selection of white.
Stuff but why I'm asking is because I'm guessing if it's
white you don't have as many options so a lot of people might
get the same stuff. As I saw, that wasn't hard to
find stuff that you thought no one would have, no.
I have several pieces that I've gotten that are white for
various. I don't know because the cowboy
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decided to buy it for me. So there are pieces that I
haven't even worn. He likes bridal lingerie too.
He just likes lingerie in general.
So the man is my shopper. He shops all of my dresses,
lingerie, 90% of my outfits for anything, you know, lifestyle
wise. He has purchased it for me and I
just get to wear it showed off. I like lingerie myself.
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I like the good, a good show andtell.
Have you been to the White Party, Jenny?
I believe you have. You've been around since we've.
Been out of them, I think I've been to a couple of them but I'm
hopefully planning on being to this one too.
But the white parties are definitely always a good time.
Last year's was huge. Last year was the biggest White
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Party we've had ever. Oh, and I know, and I miss.
It that was massive. Yeah, it was huge.
That one was massive, yes. And just so you remember
everybody, this is a heads up because don't forget you'll see
it here. By the time this comes out,
it'll be out. Halloween will be posted. 2 day
hotel takeover. Huge spot.
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It's it's got the very, very large hotel.
We doing that with the two largeballrooms.
We're going to have two day hotel takeover.
Both nights are going to be events, DJ's dancing.
It's gonna be a great time. So as soon as that post, I would
book your room because those rooms sold out quick last year.
Even in even that many sold out that quick.
So look for that. That hotel sold.
(22:40):
Out that hotel sold out and theywere people were searching for
hotels nearby, yes. Yes, so definitely once that
once you hear this it is out already so start booking and
starting getting ready for your costumes and I I jumped the gun
there before Halloween and have you been to have either of you
have been to those I can't even.Give No, not yet.
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No, no, everybody who's listening out in Sioux Falls,
Omaha, Iowa, all those places, there's a hoedown September 13th
Sioux Falls Hotel Takeover. There's a meet and greet Friday
night and then Saturday night will be the actual hotel
takeover and you know, DJ dancing, all that good stuff.
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Neat thing about the Sioux FallsHotel Takeovers, they do have a
bar there, but it's for all intensive purposes BYOB.
They don't care if you bring stuff in because their bar is
not full service. So that is unique factor,
remember for those, but otherwise, the same sort of
setup. If you've been a hotel takeovers
with us, you dress up in the fame and then there's lingerie
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change at 10:30 and then there'sroom crawls just after party
sweep, all that good stuff. But what I like to tell you guys
too is make sure you read the event details.
All right, Pretty much all this stuff is on there.
I know some of you are new and won't understand the the context
of it. But if you're not new, do not
text me to ask me what time it starts.
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All right? Nothing makes me hate you more
when you text me stupid questions and I have.
To say on the websites in the event.
Like it's usually. Read it all top to.
Bottom I'm friends with so I can't really be mad or people
whose wife I screw or something so I can't get mad at him.
(24:26):
It's not texting me dumb shit. Anything else?
Am I missing anything Miss Doll or Jenny that actually telling
them about these hair parties? Please let me see you at the
Brass Rail pool party. White Party, The eye candy
takeover? No.
So that's it right now. That's it.
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So it's going to start ramping up.
People swing season is starting.Get ready, get those sitters
lined up, kids going back to school.
Time to kick it now. Jenny, thank you for coming on.
Of course, we appreciate it. We're going to have to have you
back sometime soon. Turner rather than for.
A longer period of time. Yeah, we just got a little
teaser little single female teaser episode right here all.
(25:09):
Right. All right.
Well, thanks, Miss Doll. Good to see you again.
I will see you very soon. And everyone, thanks for
listening. See you guys soon.
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All right, so Miss Dahl, Jenny, we could talk about what we were
just talking about Miss Doll. Like I said, we were.
I was asking Jenny here so aboutdating in the lifestyle.
And what we were saying is, is that I said, God forbid nothing
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happens to the Dean. But if I had to go back on
Tinder in the world, like I could never be with someone who
was not in the lifestyle or didn't know about it.
And I said, but the weird part about that is if I went on a
tender date, it would be so awkward for me to tell a vanilla
what I do or who I am in the lifestyle.
I would think that would be weird for me.
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But I could not be with a straight vanilla person ever.
Do you have to? Agree.
Yeah, there's no way I could do it.
There's no way. Once the toothpaste is out, man,
once the people will taste the blood.
It's just it, I think. Yeah, obviously there's a lot
that transpires when you enter the lifestyle, right?
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But a fair amount of it is due to the simple fact that you
literally have to open up everything about you and you
become very open like that. And then trying to backtrack
into, oh, we don't talk about that.
We just sweep it under the rug. I don't want to talk about that.
Do you want to talk about that? Yeah, of course I do.
But you don't this constant likebattle.
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And I would just rather I'll just stay single.
You know, I've already said this.
Once the cowboy's gone, that's it.
Like I'm just going to float so low.
Well, we didn't introduce our our guest that we have Jenny is
on. That's what we're going to refer
to tonight. She is a single female friend
who has been around a friend of the show.
Actually, she's been a Co host on the show down and dirty in
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like season 2 and she was on oneof the single female episodes.
So welcome again, Jenny. Thank you.
Thank you. For having me, it's super great
to be back. Yeah, Yeah.
Did you hear what we were just talking about, about dating?
I guess it's a little different for you because you're a single
female, so you're probably stilldating.
Yeah, lifestyle and outside of the lifestyle.
Yeah, so. Date someone if they said I
can't be in a lifestyle with youwhat?
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Would you? Would you better do it?
Is there any Dick that good? I would really, it would really
have to turn me. It'd have to be like you got me
wanting to come home every nightfor that.
But I think the only thing that would truly like if somebody
didn't want to be part of the lifestyle with me, if they were
OK with me still like having a hall pass type deal, I would be
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OK with that. But if I could never, how often?
Would you need that hall pass? Honestly like once a week?
Once a month. I think it just.
Truly depends. No, I'm the dude.
I need to negotiate this. We need to negotiate this every
January 1 so we know where we stand on your hall passes and
where we're going to be at. So if you had to pick one.
I feel like once a week, twice amonth, twice a month is
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reasonable. I feel like that's a fair.
Yes, that's a fair meeting point.
I think once a. Week, we'll even give you the
whole weekend we'll give you thewhole weekend too.
Twice a month, whole weekend. There you go.
Friday night through Sunday morning you get.
That's all I need. That's all I need to go crazy.
See, that's how the negotiation goes.
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That's how it goes over here at the at the Dean and I's house.
Exactly. But yeah, I definitely could
never, never go back to just being a vanilla person.
I would always have to be involved with my lifestyle,
people, whether it just being friends or being in that
environment, whether I'm playing.
I, I can't ever truly let these people go.
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Lifestyle people are just more fun.
Not just that, but now I want toask since you have, you have
done both sides right, what is it?
What is it like being able to like tell some guy vanilla wise
that you have been seeing and all of a sudden you're telling
him, but yeah, I'm lifestyle andwhat is his reaction usually or
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like and. When does that happen?
Is that the first date or is that like down the line?
So typically I try to get that out on the first date on most of
my dating profiles. I'm very open about me being
Polly ENM. Any of those, you know, open to
all of them, whatever it may be.So usually that's you gets that
out of the way. But if I meet somebody, just
naturally, I tried it on the first date, let them know so
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that they don't have any expectations of me moving
forward or they don't have this perception of me that may not be
true. I guess.
Because you know, once you talk about that, like you said,
toothpaste is already out of thetube, you can't put it back and
people are going to view you differently, whether it's
positive or negative. So, but to answer your question,
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Misses doll, I think the reaction is typically just what
how does that work? What do you do?
And you get to wear what I. Told her earlier, I said.
I've never actually told a vanilla.
I've never had to end almost 30 years of doing this.
I've never had to sit down a true vanilla person and be like,
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you know what we do now? The Dean tells people all the
time. At every bar outing we go to,
the Dean tells somebody at that bar that.
Doesn't surprise me. She tells somebody at that bar
nose. I mean, after the whole cruise
incident, I wouldn't you know, she kind of, you know, just get
it out there, just. Which is crazy because that is
the first time we've ever just done it with people in the wild.
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And she tells people in the wildlike, yeah, that's my husband
kissing that girl up there, Like, so she tells them they
don't need to know that I'm her husband all the time.
Now, Jenny, you're in Iowa, right?
OK. Now tell the people a little bit
about yourself. How how do we know each other?
You come to events here, but do you also go to events in Iowa?
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What's what's the scene like in Iowa?
The lifestyle scene? Yeah.
So I started going to events in Minnesota and that's where I
found my C&D people and obviously that's where my heart
truly always lies. More recently I have been
getting more into the lifestyle scene in this area and it is
still a little bit newer here, but they do have a really good
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community here and the one thingI've found is being a swinger is
pretty much the same everywhere.We're all about good vibes,
having a fun even the fuck. Even the events I've been to are
just super similar, like we're all just roaming the hallways
talking to each other, meeting up with all the old friends.
Now as Iowa, do they have on premise clubs there are you
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don't hotel takeovers? What?
What style party is it? They have, I think they have
like 2 swinger clubs in Iowa. I have personally never been to
them but I know there's a couplebut the one.
I've heard of one in Des Moines that I've never been.
Club G, that's the one that's super.
Popular. Yeah.
And then there is one that's in Peoria, IL, which is about an
(07:07):
hour and a half where I'm from that just recently opened, can't
remember the name of it because they're very like Incognito.
So it's like super hush hush type deal.
They. Don't want member.
They don't want members yet. Well, they do, but they kind of
like post it on Reddit and it's like very backdoor Speakeasy.
Vibe. They put that thing on the dark
web. Yeah, yeah.
(07:27):
That's how you know it's a. Little bit a.
Little bit sketchy but you know more.
Props to them. It's nice to have more stuff in
the area, but the events I've been to are like meet and greets
and hotel takeovers. Same type of vibe as C&D.
OK, cool. Cool.
I've I've never really parted inIowa.
I've been to a few like private things there, but not to Club G
or any hotel takeovers. But no, when was the last time
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we were just talking about this?Last time I saw you was here at
Mardi Gras. March Party.
March Party. March party.
Yeah. So you've been coming to our
events for a few years now. Yeah, since. 20/22/2021 I think.
One of those and what is your, what is your favorite type of
party? What do you What do you prefer?
I always love the hotel takeovers and you know,
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Halloween's my favorite because it's right around my birthday,
so it's the best way to celebrate a birthday with a
bunch of other swingers. This is very true.
It is the holiday. It is the holiday now.
Now how is it now? This is like we're getting like
a secret single female episode and asking all these damn
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questions. How do you like, I know you
usually bring some of your friends with you that are also
single females. How is it for you guys going to
events as single females? What's the experience like?
Give us give us the like the lens of what a single female
looks like that. I think it's a lot of fun for us
because I mean, who doesn't lovea Unicorn?
And then when you put two of them together, it's even more
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fun. And we always try to just bring
good vibes and try to be as respectful as possible when it
comes to the people in the lifestyle because ultimately the
lifestyle is about couples. I mean, yes, everybody wants a
Unicorn that we're here as I feel like, as guests, as single
people, just being able to be around everybody and being able
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to party with everybody without necessarily having to bring a
partner that is my sexual partner is also definitely A
plus. Get the float around like you
want to float around. Yes, yes, I got somebody that I
can kind of go back and talk to that's not a sexual partner, but
also somebody that, you know, I can have those conversations
with if I'm feeling uncomfortable.
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Now I'm gonna help these people out, Miss Doll.
I'm gonna help the people out. What?
Pro tip. Ready, ready for the single,
ready for the pro tip sound effect.
Jenny, why don't you help you help me help the people out If
these people 'cause everybody weknow, every fucking body in the
world is looking for a single female.
Everyone who just signed up today, don't look for a Unicorn
(10:00):
right now. Give them the tips.
What is a tip? What are do's and don'ts when
approaching a single female at aparty or approaching them
online? What do you go like OK I got you
in the door without giving too many your secrets away or beat
it, never hit me up again. I say help them out, help them
out. The do's are make yourself
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known. Make it known that you know if
you have a crush, whatever, or if you're interested in playing,
just make it known but don't latch on.
I think, and this happens to couples too, a lot of.
People, you get a lot of latchers.
Yep, they tend to latch on to people and get feel like a
strong connection. Or when you're at a party,
they'll just wanna follow you around and be around you the
(10:44):
whole night because they want something to happen, which I
totally understand. But at the same time, when
you're trying to enjoy a party, that's not necessarily something
that you want. It's nice to have somebody
that's just like, hey, I'm here if you want to without the
pressure. Good tip, good tip.
Yeah. And I agree, that does happen as
couples too sometimes. Really.
Especially if you bring in someone new at their first
(11:08):
event. They're like, oh, I know you,
I'm going to find you and I'm going to follow you around.
No, please don't. Yeah.
It's like, go ventro, go make your.
Own trouble please. Yes, exactly.
Go make your own trouble 1st andthen come back and tell me how
it went. Yeah, go have some sex and then
report back, yeah. Don't shadow me, please go find
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your own fun. All right, now you got to give
them what? What do you give them?
That's a that's a Definitely don't.
If you have any more don'ts before you give them the big do
they all want to do, Everybody'swaiting here for the do.
I think that's pretty much it for the don'ts.
I just you people that do too much or try to make themselves
too known as the big don't. The do is just be honest you
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know, and don't try to put me inthe middle of your BS.
If you're having a relationship problems, don't.
I don't want to be here to save it.
I just am about having fun. So if I'm with a couple and
we're going out on a date, I want to enjoy the day and
potentially have room to play. I don't want to feel like
there's pressure. You get that a lot so.
I. Yeah, like a lot of drama.
(12:18):
Once in a while, do you? Is it more drama for you than
than like cool being cool? Is it more you find more drama
with people than you do like it and what's move?
It's, I think it's equal betweenlike being in a couple and like
being a single female. The drama's always going to be
there, but it's just more uncomfortable when you're a
single female because like in a party, if you have a friend with
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you, you can go back and talk tothem.
But if you're out on a date withthis couple and something
happens, you don't necessarily have anybody that you can go and
say like, holy crap, what what just happened?
I get it. Yeah.
So definitely just be respectfulis like the biggest thing I
would say. Be respectful, make yourself
known, don't be pushy. All right, you heard it right
(13:01):
from a single female. So when you're looking for those
unicorns, make sure you're not a, what they call them fifth
stage, clinger, whatever. Don't be a Twinkie.
Person now, what about now, whatabout online?
Because that's always, obviouslythat's where it's going to be
more prevalent, right? Like you're not always going to
get a, you're not always going to get approached at a takeover
(13:23):
or at the bar or whatever. Most of the time you're going to
get hit up on the site ASAP because you got one couple that
came in and they've decided all of a sudden, hey, I want a
threesome and we only want it with a female.
Online, it's definitely a lot harder because you can't see
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people's body language to necessarily gauge like how
genuine they are and you know, if you'll actually vibe with
them. But I think it's kind of goes
very similar for online interactions.
Like just be respectful. Don't send me if we're just
having, if you just met me, don't send me a 5 page paragraph
of why you want to have sex witha Unicorn.
(14:06):
Like I don't need all that. Do you like Dick pic?
Every once in a while if it's solicited.
She passed up. You don't like soliciting Dick
pics? No, like if it's like same type
of thing, like we just started, you're talking don't just don't
straight up send me the sausage.I don't.
Like I wanna. I wanna at least know your first
thing you know what's your favorite color is first.
(14:29):
That's. Like my thing?
That's like my thing. Now I wanna know which women
actually like Dick pics. I don't know why.
Some of them do. I like the taste.
It's it's not bad. See tasteful.
It has to be don't send a flacidDick.
Get some, get some grapes a little doily.
(14:49):
Yeah. Don't.
All right, I know, I know. For my next Dick pic shooting
now what I'm going to do. You're not even going to do it.
I don't even know why you're even.
Put a little hat on it or something.
Now that's entertaining. That's.
A little hat, little whiskers onthat my bucket.
The only way I'll ever see you doing it is like the SNL skit.
Where? Justin Timberlake did it with
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the box. All right, that's the.
Only time I should be. That will ever be in a picture
is in a box. Well, both of you ladies, I have
a question for you. Will you be well, what was it
last What? When was the last time I saw you
guys? I haven't seen Miss Dawn a
while. Were either of you at the pool
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party in July? No, I wasn't, No.
No, yeah, that was 4th of July. It got rained out.
So we, you know, didn't really do anything that day.
So now the next pool party is inAugust.
Pool. Pool season is getting ruined.
I will tell you that. Pool season by the weather is
getting ruined. We have two more chances to
redeem ourselves. So everybody keep your fingers
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crossed. And we just had glow 2.
Neither of you made glow 2 either, right?
No. I didn't.
That was that was a great one. It's always it's fun in the
summertime to get a a a Group. A good group of people together
usually get smaller stuff in thesummertime, but but that one
parties. Are always fun to.
Do Why do people love glow parties so much?
Adults like that. Kitties lit up, ass lit up, all
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of it is real enticing. Adults love glow parties.
It's crazy. Yeah.
So we had that. That was a great time at the the
mansion there. So that will be the last one we
have at the mansion for a while.But what we do have coming up,
we have a party. I don't know when this drops
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producer, but we have a meet andgreet and Sioux Falls for the
Sioux Falls listeners for the eye candy group out there to
live 19th July 29th. I don't think that's.
Right, that's when there's no, that's when this drops.
Oh, gotcha, gotcha. OK, you missed it.
But Sioux Falls people, there will be more meet greets, but we
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do have the Hoedown coming up there for September.
Check out for that. But the next event we'll be
having in Minnesota will be the Brass Rail on August 9th.
Miss Doll, will you be at that one?
Your face tells me no. That's a, that's like a 3070
face right there. He was like 30.
No, sadly we will not be at thatone.
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I can see from your face I was like.
The pool party, Yes, the will. The 30th we'll be at the pool
party for sure. We'll see you then, Jenny.
And we will be at the White Party.
Will you be in attendance? You're jumping the gun and they
tell him about the White Party yet?
Again there. Close Jenny, will you be at the
the Downtown party August night?Unfortunately, no, I won't be.
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I will be at one of the next pool parties, the one that's
before the August 30th 1:00, butwon't be able to make that
unfortunately. All right, all right.
Well, for those of you listening, August 9th will be at
the Brass Row. That's our red hot event.
So that is we take over a whole bar right in the heart of
downtown Minneapolis. And the great part about this
(18:00):
bar is it has a nudity license. So ladies, you can wear skimpy
shit, you can be topless if you want.
There's triple. Be topless.
Yeah, you can be topless. I allow it.
The city of Minneapolis, it's not me.
The city of the state of Minnesota allows it, I guess.
(18:20):
So yes, it's a cool, as my wife the Bean says quaint spot.
So it gets very. Small for a lot of.
People. So we get like the last party it
was, it was real busy, the last one that we did there.
It was that one was very, very busy.
Yeah, so you get a lot of people.
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Standing outside, out front. Yeah, we have a Patty.
There's a, it's a inside outsidesort of set up so you can,
there's a patio area connected just for our group, private
group, but it's right on the Main Street there.
So there's that aspect too. But yeah, come on out.
It's going to be hot hopefully since it was like 60° here
today, but it's going to be hot August 9th.
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Come out in your hot red outfits.
Come join us for that then afterthat.
And the reason why I'm mentioning this now is because
on couples nextdoor.com, this event is posted already.
It has a hotel takeover. It is the White Party which is
becoming a fan favorite. And I changed the dates.
It used to be back in May and everyone was like, professor, we
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don't have our tans yet and you can't get white clothes yet, so
we switched it. To, I mean, technically you
should have just made that hotelglow party too, because yeah,
that's kind of yeah, right. I'll bring the.
One in white. White skin several weeks.
So yeah, that's going to be a hotel takeover and those rooms
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are almost sold out. So if you need one, I would book
now. That's going to be September 6th
and that's going to be in the Twin Cities area.
For those of you listening all over Twin Cities area, September
6th. All of these events are on
Couples nextdoor.com. You have to be on Couples
nextdoor.com to go to these events.
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Miss Doll, any tips for the White Party for that hotel take
right? Have you been to a White Party
before? Yes, have been to the White
Party before that was we hosted a room crawl or we were part of
the room. Gotcha.
Again, as always, wear comfy shoes.
A lot of walking around there isthere is an elevator we've given
(20:31):
stories on. This.
Please do not over pack the elevator, it will stop
functioning. So be smart, be adults, OK?
Ladies, is it hard to find whitelingerie or white alpha?
It's actually no, it's super easy to find.
It is. It just a lot of bridal stuff.
Pretty much. Like you can do Amazon.
(20:52):
Sheen always has a really good selection of white.
Stuff but why I'm asking is because I'm guessing if it's
white you don't have as many options so a lot of people might
get the same stuff. As I saw, that wasn't hard to
find stuff that you thought no one would have, no.
I have several pieces that I've gotten that are white for
various. I don't know because the cowboy
(21:14):
decided to buy it for me. So there are pieces that I
haven't even worn. He likes bridal lingerie too.
He just likes lingerie in general.
So the man is my shopper. He shops all of my dresses,
lingerie, 90% of my outfits for anything, you know, lifestyle
wise. He has purchased it for me and I
just get to wear it showed off. I like lingerie myself.
(21:37):
I like the good, a good show andtell.
Have you been to the White Party, Jenny?
I believe you have. You've been around since we've.
Been out of them, I think I've been to a couple of them but I'm
hopefully planning on being to this one too.
But the white parties are definitely always a good time.
Last year's was huge. Last year was the biggest White
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Party we've had ever. Oh, and I know, and I miss.
It that was massive. Yeah, it was huge.
That one was massive, yes. And just so you remember
everybody, this is a heads up because don't forget you'll see
it here. By the time this comes out,
it'll be out. Halloween will be posted. 2 day
hotel takeover. Huge spot.
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It's it's got the very, very large hotel.
We doing that with the two largeballrooms.
We're going to have two day hotel takeover.
Both nights are going to be events, DJ's dancing.
It's gonna be a great time. So as soon as that post, I would
book your room because those rooms sold out quick last year.
Even in even that many sold out that quick.
So look for that. That hotel sold.
(22:40):
Out that hotel sold out and theywere people were searching for
hotels nearby, yes. Yes, so definitely once that
once you hear this it is out already so start booking and
starting getting ready for your costumes and I I jumped the gun
there before Halloween and have you been to have either of you
have been to those I can't even.Give No, not yet.
(23:01):
No, no, everybody who's listening out in Sioux Falls,
Omaha, Iowa, all those places, there's a hoedown September 13th
Sioux Falls Hotel Takeover. There's a meet and greet Friday
night and then Saturday night will be the actual hotel
takeover and you know, DJ dancing, all that good stuff.
(23:22):
Neat thing about the Sioux FallsHotel Takeovers, they do have a
bar there, but it's for all intensive purposes BYOB.
They don't care if you bring stuff in because their bar is
not full service. So that is unique factor,
remember for those, but otherwise, the same sort of
setup. If you've been a hotel takeovers
with us, you dress up in the fame and then there's lingerie
(23:44):
change at 10:30 and then there'sroom crawls just after party
sweep, all that good stuff. But what I like to tell you guys
too is make sure you read the event details.
All right, Pretty much all this stuff is on there.
I know some of you are new and won't understand the the context
of it. But if you're not new, do not
text me to ask me what time it starts.
(24:04):
All right? Nothing makes me hate you more
when you text me stupid questions and I have.
To say on the websites in the event.
Like it's usually. Read it all top to.
Bottom I'm friends with so I can't really be mad or people
whose wife I screw or something so I can't get mad at him.
(24:26):
It's not texting me dumb shit. Anything else?
Am I missing anything Miss Doll or Jenny that actually telling
them about these hair parties? Please let me see you at the
Brass Rail pool party. White Party, The eye candy
takeover? No.
So that's it right now. That's it.
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So it's going to start ramping up.
People swing season is starting.Get ready, get those sitters
lined up, kids going back to school.
Time to kick it now. Jenny, thank you for coming on.
Of course, we appreciate it. We're going to have to have you
back sometime soon. Turner rather than for.
A longer period of time. Yeah, we just got a little
teaser little single female teaser episode right here all.
(25:09):
Right. All right.
Well, thanks, Miss Doll. Good to see you again.
I will see you very soon. And everyone, thanks for
listening. See you guys soon.
Bye. Special thanks to our sponsor
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal
Gregg Rosenthal and a rotating crew of elite NFL Media co-hosts, including Patrick Claybon, Colleen Wolfe, Steve Wyche, Nick Shook and Jourdan Rodrigue of The Athletic get you caught up daily on all the NFL news and analysis you need to be smarter and funnier than your friends.