January 25, 2024 • 42 mins
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We talk our holiday road trips, Gordie's new car issues, Paul's controversial EV experiment, Tesla forced to pause sales and we myth bust the viral Cybertruck v Porsche 911 drag test.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Now, look, I know it's been a while, but you've
really let yourself go.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Let me.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I'm pretty we might be able to get visuals of this,
but if I can give you a bit of a
description of what Paul's wearing, I'm going to put it on. Yeah,
he's got his creamy white arms out. He has well
I want to say it's like the old school blue
(00:38):
singlet slash wife beater, but it more looks like with
those man tits, it looks like Donna's crop top. Literally
have a nipple hanging out the side of your arm.
I'm like, when did you get whoopy Goldberg tits?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I do have an explanation. So firstly, you've got to
driving a land cruise a seventies series, so obviously. But secondly,
I actually had to have some surgery on my chest.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
So did you get light perception.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Reast reduction about It's still fun though.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, trust me, from this point you've still got lots
left our fine bags. Yeah right, okay, anyway, good break,
good good times. Yeah, things were good. Things have had
a good break went all round. Jesus bloody clocked up
the Cays on the c barrow our back.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, did you do some nice sort of hiking. And
what else does siverery drivers do?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
We cut some stuff with scissors.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
My road trip, Missy Higgins got to run the.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Playlist bet repeat.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, the rebeat and Sisters is good. I don't believe
lack dancing. I know there's any or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
It's your economy been Like, I'm interested because my father
and Laura told him to get an outpack and he
got the non turbo. But I'm curious to know where
you're sitting. They do a bit of towering and stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Okay, interesting point you bring that up, because when I
did the when I had the test the car, the
fuel economy fuel economy was sitting in about ten liters per
hundred k's. So this now, given I hadn't done really
much highway driving before this road trip, so the first
(02:44):
three thousand k's have been getting to work them back,
which is about twelve k's. So I was averaging no
shit like seventeen leaders per hundred k's and then yeah,
and then when I was filling up, it was like
it was saying I was getting I was getting. You
know how it tells you how many CA's you'll get
from a full tank. It was saying like two hundred
(03:04):
and eighty, and then I think it was yeah, and
then it rounded up to like maybe I think it
got to about three point twenty at one point, and
so I rang up my guy down there and actually
I rang up super U and he's like, oh, yeah,
do you have a bit of a lead foot. I'm like, mate,
if I took this to fucking colder park, I couldn't
get up to seventeen liters.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
So that's true, Yeah, that's true, or yeah, you should
bring it in. I was like, oh fuck, I can't
be fucked. I cannot be fucked bring in this car.
And I don't have the time this time of the year.
I thought to myself, I'm planning this road trip. I'm
doing a lot of k's in it. Hopefully it's going
to go down by then anyway, and you know, you
do the kind of reset on it and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I managed to get it down to about after a
lot of highway driving, about eight liters.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I think's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, it was still like eight point something, let's say
eight point five, right, I've been back for like a
week or two, and it's crept up to about ten something,
but it doesn't seem right because at first I thought
I reckon, they'd calibrated it wrong. Almost. I was like,
it's almost like this thing's doing it in miles instead
of kilometers. It was so weird, but it was yeah,
(04:18):
it was shitouse, it was shocking. They were just like, yeah,
bring it in, bring it in. Actually, you know, one
thing did happen to me. I was out in a
place called crowdy Head. I bet it was yeah, and
head is not that great in Crowdy Head, I can
tell you right now. But so, it was a reasonably
hot day. It was like thirty degrees and I unlocked
(04:39):
the car. The electronics sort of unlocked it and stuff,
so it sort of let me in, but the car
wouldn't start, and I was like, what the what the fuck?
And it wouldn't start, and so after I was just like,
this isn't happening at all. So I took the secret
emergency key thing out of the clip, I unlocked it
like that and sort of reset it because it wouldn't
(04:59):
even turn and the electrics off. And I called Siparu
and they're like, yeah, it was. It was pretty hot.
It was like thirty degrees I'm like, mate, your car's
literally fucking called outback. It's thirty degrees mate, it ain't
that hot. So yeah, believe it's sort of like bring
it in, bring it in. But look otherwise it's fun.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It sounds great.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
It sounds great. Half, No, I I generally like it.
It's look teething issues, mate's teething issues.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
But it sounds very annoying.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Did your father in law have problems with it?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
No, they've had no dramas with theirs. There is non turbo.
They do a favorit of towing and stuff, so there
has been perfectly fine. And they've got no idea how
to use any of the features. So from that point
of view, it's been all good.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
But did you say features You mean the Apple gar play.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Literally, he didn't know it had it until I showed
him the other week, and he's had the car for
like two years.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
It's a wireless too.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Look, the fuel economy is a bit odd, the heating
thing is a bit strange. I'll get them checked out
and I'll keep you updated. But look, I have to
say as a highway car, it's still one of the best. Like,
it's such a great highway car. The adaptive cruise control
is amazing on it. We went up to Port mcquarie,
fuck and hell, I know you bought your Ranger from
that joint, but Port mcquarie and I got a few
(06:19):
listeners of this show comment going, oh, how bloody goods
Port mcquarie, Paul mcquarie is like a giant retirement village
for fat old people. It's a craze for fat old
people and everyone goes at this really annoying slow speed.
It's like it's sort of not quite slow enough to
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toot and get out of the way, but it's almost,
but it's very much a speed where it's like can
we can we get a move on?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's you. I don't like your city slickers around there, Champion.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
No ungine too much of a Harry and Port mcquarie.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I like, but no, you know, the thing I thought
was strange about Port mcquarie, the RSL was great that
there's like a little cafe on the water as well,
which is really nice too.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Are you talking about are you talking about Settlement city?
You're talking about Yeah, you're talking about Panthers only the
one and there's a there's a little bar sort of
thing on the right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, that sounds about right. But I thought it was
odd because there's like a lot of petrol stations, a
lot of car dealerships for a city that's really not
that big. I just it baffles me how there is
so much economic activity. So they must have all just
had a lot of disposable income that they're spending money on.
But I don't know, it's just really fascinating to me.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I think it's very much of a hub of what's
around it too, because if you kind of look at
anywhere from say Tari and then you go north of
Port mcquarie, which would be fucking who knows, it sort
of feels like a bit of a oh maybe because
it coughs harbor, I don't know, but it feels like
a bit of a hub catching yeah, between everything in between.
(08:03):
So yeah, you're right though, you'll get like the big
Bunnings and you'll get all the car dealerships. And I
spent New Year's Eve there too.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Wow did your party like it was nineteen eighty six? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
My resolution was do not have New Year's Eve here again?
But yeah, did you go away?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
No? No, not really.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I feel like with that singler when I say did
you go away? It's like talking about prison time.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
It was just six months, you know. Yeah, so it
was fine.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
You did appear on a list next to Trevor and
Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So I did have a fine fifty over Christmas. And
it's somewhat limited where I could go because it was
the long wheelbase and at six point three or four
meters long. It's sort of not as to annoy a
lot of people because every time I parked it, I
would be in someone's way, and often they were some
woke sort of Tesla driver that would take issue with
(09:11):
me driving that thing. But yeah, it kind of limited,
but for a long distance drive it was so great.
So did a lot of longer distance highway driving. And
I can see why Americans love them. They find fifty
is the best selling car in the States. And it's
not hard to see ryan.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Beast of a looking car, such a base like it's
got such a great presence about it. It's kit it
out well too, like that can't be ignored. I reckon
for a long time Americans are really sucked when it
comes to interior, but that cars kit it out really
well tech wise too.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, they do a really good job with them. There's
a whole step of interesting stuff they've got on them,
but forward, I just don't know how they managed to
get doing this. But they had just stop selling them,
stop delivering them because there was a remanufacturing issue. So
basically the turbo hose was collapsing on itself and causing
the engine to go into limp mo. Then they just
had to stop delivering them. All these customers that were
(10:02):
expecting them just before Chrissy, we're told, nah, he could
come back later. So I know two guys that canceled
their orders, like, nah, fuck it, I'm not going to
wait any longer. I'll just go buy something else. So
I'm curious to if anyone's listening to this. If you
had fifty on order, have you kept the order based
on them sort of fucking everyone around, or are you
(10:25):
sort of looking for something else.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I wonder what the wait times are like on those now.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well, yeah, exactly, so initially there was there was a
lot of white time, But I really don't know what
the situation is if they've started deliveries again, and if
they haven't, the wait time is just going to keep
growing because no one's actually getting any of their cars,
So I don't even know if they have a solution
to the problem. So, yeah, it's a it's a bloody
weird one.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Talk about a bloody weird one. He did a bloody
weird road trip with what's his name, Joe Achilles. Yes,
are you guys fucking what? I only brief it just
it was just a little fleing fling.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
No, we did a road trip and it was it
was good fun and we meant to do a podcast
episode with with Joe and I think recall you were
a little sick, had the sniffles.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, I had. I had the social media martis rest
in peace with Anyway, enough of that, Sorry for our
social activity is a bit low for for the next
couple of weeks anyway, not the point. Yeah, No, we
were supposed to do a little cute little episode with him.
Maybe we can get him on the zoom sometimes when
(11:36):
we're all together. Let's put him on the list, let's
put him on the guest list. Just before you get
into this, I think it's if you're going to do
a road trip, i'd say do it in style, especially
because the Melbourne to Sydney sitting to Melbourne trip, there's
some there's some great scenery and there's some good toilet stops,
but my point is do it in a in a
(11:56):
luxury car, like did you have that? Was it the
seven series?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
It was the seven series. But I just want to
challenge your toilet stops because on the New South Wales side,
the toilets are all like long drops, which I think
is disgusting for a major highway. It's not like you're driving,
so if you need to pull over, drop it's when
you climb.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Is that a little like a little position that you
and did that? I'll tell you is what I've got
a long drop?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
So it's it's when you need to go to the toilet.
You pull over and you can see the cubicle. It's
up on stairs and as you approach it, you have
this horrific smell and you're like, I wonder what that is.
You get inside the little cubicle, open the toilet lid
and it's just a hole that goes down to a
pile of shit and urine and that's the toilet. And
(12:49):
it's like, surely we are a little more civilized than
this on a major freeway.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Why didn't you go to a macasin or something?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Like that, I don't know where they are. I'm just driving.
I need to go to the toilet. I thought I'll
pull over, which I've done in Victoria there's actual toilets. Anyway,
one of them had a glory hold.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That I was did you pull over in that sieglet
You would have got planed right out.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
But seriously, one of the cubicles. We'll get to the
road trip in a second. I'm sort of sitting there
looking at the cubicle. I'm like, what is that in
the wall? And it was a whole bunch of toilet
paper in a hole and I'm like, that is so.
And then I walked around to the next cubicle and
the hole went through to the other cubicle. I'm like, oh,
I see what this is. Anyway, so we did a
(13:34):
road trip from Melbourne to Sydney and the theory the
hypothesis was is it cheaper, specifically for a road trip
to drive a petrol car or an electric car? And
we did this at the end of last year because
we wanted to publish it with Christmas coming up and
everyone doing road trips if they had an electric car,
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I wanted to show them what is the best thing
to do. So anyway, we picked the seven Series because
they sell a seven Series in petrol and also full electric,
so we wanted to have the same car as opposed
to just different cars. And of course we wanted to
not be bored to death, so I thought picked something nice.
So anyway, we left Hawthorne in Victoria. Both cars were
(14:18):
at one hundred percent and we wanted to drive to Tarcata,
which is the halfway point between Melbourne and Sydney, and
that's four hundred and fifty k's away.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Now, the car showed, can I just quickly pause you
there when you started that little road trip of yours?
And you so you started with a full charge and
did did Joe what you like to call, brim his tank?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
He did? Now, right right to the to the rim.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, exactly. You've got to fucking stop saying. Oh, anyway,
so we brim the tank like you're something special. I've
thought about it. When I was filling up. I think
I was in Tarkata or try Fucker or wherever the
fuck I was. I'm like, you just fill it. Most
people fill it up till it clicks a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Now, maybe you want a.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Little bit of extra juice and check a little bit
like why the tank.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
No, it's when you bring it. You need to bring
the fuel until it is about to overflow, because if
you go to the first click, the clicking in the
hose is basically air coming back up the hose, and
when it's a texted it stops the flow. So you
can depending on density and how full your tank is,
it might click early. So you need to have a
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visual indicator of where the fuel is, so that is
called brimming it. So anyway, we bringed a bit and
so tar cutters four hundred and fifty ks away and
the electric VMW showed the driving range of five and
fifty seven or something, and I thought, my drums will
piss it in. So anyway, we're driving along, and while
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we're driving, we'll stopped for a rebreak at.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
The place with the.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Whole and I've got a text message from one of
the girls at the office and she goes, oh, have
you had any issues with charging because the Optus networks down.
I'm like, it's been charged yet, but I assume it'll
be okay, and she goes, no, that EV network is down,
and that was the charger we needed to use in Tarcata,
and we were still about one hundred and fifty k's
from Tarkata. So I'm like, well, let's just keep going
(16:20):
and we'll see what happens when we get there. Anyway,
as we're getting closer, my range is like dropping rapidly,
and we get to Tarkata with two percent of battery
range left, and so the car had lost twenty percent
of its range effectively because it was going five hundred
and fifty to start with. And thankfully that charger was
working despite it being on the on the EV network.
(16:43):
And just just for those playing at home who want
a bit of a technical explanation about why an EV
does that. Basically, when you charge it to full, it
says it has a computer inside that says, well, my
program deficiency allows me to do five hundred and fifty
kilometers if it's driven within a typical drive and a
typical driver is how they certify these vehicles for their
(17:06):
driving range. So when you're driving on the freeway, there's
no real chance for region or a limited chance for
a region. In addition to that, there's an elevation change
between Melbourne and Tarkata, so you are predominantly driving uphill,
so effectively, instead of being in and around the city
where you're slowing down and speeding up, you're just driving uphill.
You're just using energy. So that is where you get
(17:27):
that energy reduction. But the good thing is that when
you get to Suton Forests down towards Sydney, it's predominantly
downhill because you're going from an elevation of six hundred
meters to zero and basically we're able to put twenty
kilo eight hours of energy back into the battery during
those descents. So it's got a long story short. We
got to Sydney, we brimmed the car again right up
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to the rim, and basically found that it was cheaper
to do the road trip in a petrol car that
ended up costing almost twenty dollars less, and that was
ninety eight rong unleaded put into the BMW and fuel
was expensive as well as two dollars ten at the time.
And also it was a six minute phil as opposed
to two hours and eight minutes of sitting there charging.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So does that surprise you, Uh no, not really, it's
I mean I've sort of said it before, I think
anyone and fuck it go back and listen to any
of our John Kudogan episodes because he puts it brilliantly.
But if you think for one second, like one you're
buying an EV to save the planet and fucking reduce
your carbon foot prints and whatever, you're just not cheaper
(18:35):
running costs and all that sort of thing. I think
time and time again this is unless you have a
way to charge your car at home, you know, off
peak and all that sort of stuff, I think that's
probably the better way to do it. But oh, with Solar,
I think were I've always said, I think we're EV
stand right now in twenty twenty four are a commuter
car their grades to sort of commute around cities and
(18:55):
stuff like that. I would not want to do a
road trip in an EV, Like yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I'm totally with you on that, and look to be.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, we're not there yet, Like you've just kind of
proved a point, like we're definitely not there yet where
we need to be in terms of like charging infrastructure,
Like the fuck A network went down and that was
putting things into disarray, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Like yeah, and look, the flip side is, you know,
if you're driving in and around the city, have solar
at home, and EV will always be cheaper than a
petrol car to run in those circumstances. And I think
that with the network going down, if you went to
a petrol station, you would have been able to put
fuel in your car, but you wouldn't have been able
to pay with their post and all that sort of stuff.
But you still could have paid with cash, which you
(19:42):
couldn't do at an EB charger. But the other thing
is that the charge right since we filmed this have
gone up by almost forty percent depending on what speed
you choose. And then I mean it is just going
In the history of electricity prices, they have never gone down.
And so anyone that thinks that when we move to
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renewables and all this sort of stuff that electricity will
become cheaper, I mean they are absolutely kidding themselves. And
that's the case. It means you're charging it's going to
become more expensive. And then in addition to that, the
government currently takes forty five forty seven cents per letter
from petrol excise. So the second act disappears and we're
all driving around in evs. Guess who they're going to
come and start taxing, and that is everyone. So just
(20:26):
because you charge it at home, that I'm going to
let you get away with that. So yeah, look, I
think that it is an interesting one. What I did
find though, is that people get very triggered by this.
You either had the people that are just like, yeah,
I fucking told you evs are just shit. Everyone I
told you. So then you had the flip side, which
(20:46):
was people who love evs who were telling us about
everything we did wrong or everything they thought we did wrong,
to the point where some of the stuff was just fanciful.
They were like, oh, you should have stopped here, here, here,
and here, and it would have been cheap. And I'm like, yeah,
but I already wasted two hours and eight minutes charging
You want me to hour waste even more time going
off the freeway and going into some town because there's
(21:09):
some charger next to our hotel somewhere. Yeah, there's just
a lot of Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Also, this is a fucking simple road trip. This isn't
like some strategy plan where I'm trying to that'st find
clues like, yeah, we're not a road trip level for
this sort of stuff. Yet we're just not.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
No, And look as an EV owner. When it came
to Christmas time, I had the fin fifty. I chose
to drive that everywhere we went because there is no
way I want to get stuck in a queue with
other people waiting to charge and all that sort of nonsense.
Even if I didn't have the Finn fifty, I would
have driven my Raptor. There's no way I would drive
an electric car during busy peak periods on longer road trips,
(21:48):
because it is just a recipe for disaster. That's what
my thought.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Hey, you know what did you find it to be
a smoother ride like? Because obviously it's an EV. I've
always said that evs and luxury cars just go together
so well, And to me, I reckon, that's at the moment,
at this point in time, that's where the EV market
is excelling. Is a luxury car game?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Well, look not really. I mean the seven was lovely.
It was really nice to drive. It was like thirty degrees.
We had the pulled seats running, air conditioner was cranked,
so it was all fine. But Joe and the seventh boardy,
I mean it's the same car. It weighs six hundred
kilos less, so the riders typically better, and he ended
up using something like six leaders per one hundred ks,
which is nothing. And I mean if you switch out
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his car for a Wrap four hybrid which uses two
leaders per one hundred less and can run on ninety
one run fuel as well, it would be even cheaper. Still,
So I think that as a road trip vehicle, it's
just a it's a no brainer. You know what you
would have thought when yd brought the three and they
had issues with a tether point in the center seat
(22:51):
in the second row and they had to stop sail
and fix it. Wouldn't you at that point have gone, Okay,
I'm bringing a car into Australia. I'm going to triple
check that there is a place where I can hook
my kid up to in the middle of the second row,
because it is a rule, and someone has just been
dicked for this. Matt memo didn't get through the wizards
(23:11):
at Tesla because the Model three is now no longer
on sale and can no longer be delivered to customers,
and the customers that do have a car now have
doubts over whether they could actually keep driving it because
they had this exact same issue.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how they overcome this.
So basically what's happened is Tesla have had to pause
sales in Australia because their center Child's restraint to the
point has not been installed. They've got the two end ones,
but compliance in Australia says you need to have the
middle one if you've got the middle seat. Now byd
(23:47):
did this go about eighteen months ago and had to
stop the sales, as you said, of the A three,
but they managed to kind of clean that up fairly well.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
So did some really good crime coms on that as well.
Say that again, you guys did some really good crisis
comms on that at Big ID as well.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, thank you, thank you. Sorry, Hang on, what's that
Emperor Mao take him out? Yes, sir, I just want
to say so, I am here with the Alliance, Yes,
locked into the regime. I'll take him out. That's the anthem,
isn't It's.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Not an inspected gadget.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
The Emperor Mao is just like on a big throne,
like I'll get you next time, Marrik, next time. Yeah.
The compliance thing is fucking how what are you doing?
You're the most popular, well known EV company on the planet.
Everybody knows who you are. You think your boys down
(24:54):
at the Compliance Division would kind of check when they're
launching the new thing in to Australia.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
You know, you know what as well? I reckon someone
at the Department of it's the Department of hold on,
let me read this out because I thought it was
the funniest thing in the world. It is the Department
of Department. No, no, it was the Department of Transport
and Planning. Apparently it's on the Department of Transport, Agriculture
(25:23):
Planning and corn Flags or whatever it is. But someone
they would have gone, Okay, I have nothing to do
every day, and they would have seen this come in
and gone, oh my god, we have hit them other load.
I cannot wait to stop saleon this. They must just
sit there and go please, just don't have a top
ten point in the middle.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Jeffrey, Jeffrey, you're not going to believe what you fucking
happened to you Teshler have made a big old cock up.
I can't wait to fucking talk to the boys about
this one.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yes, no, I am.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I'm getting to getting only bit of a stiffy over it.
I haven't seen you in forty years It's like seeing
an old friend yish madey tishla fucked up. Oh Jesus,
I was thinking, my bloody blow dust.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
That's how I imagine driver's sex will have. Guys wonder where
that kupra took him over the holidays.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, he loves defending that thing as well, which is good.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, loves it. Hey, listen, Chinese ev brand Zeka are
coming to Australia. These guys are owned by well of
the same people who own Volvo and Pollstar and is it?
Is it the Geley group?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Right?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I was thinking when this news article came across my desk,
this is just totally sidetracked. I once wrote a bit
of copy for Geely Technically, yeah, I write a radio
ad for Proton, Remember Proton?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Was it the jump Buck Satria?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Oh my god, the jump I think it could have
been the jump Buck or was there like a Proton
three or something? That jumbuck was there, fucking ute, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
That's it?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah? I felt like there was like a Proton three
or something. I don't know what it was, but I
remember Geely also own Loaders. Yeah, I've got a feeling
it was. I was riding it because some of the
chassis or some of the parts were designed by loaders.
In this Proton something.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Like engineered by loaders that had a badge on it.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, that was their big claim to fame. Anyway, Zeka
coming to Australia. What do you make of these cars?
By the way, Well, I saw.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
One at Munich Airport last year and we were driving
in and I'm like, what the fuck is that? And
it was the stupidly fast sedan thing that has a
very inspired design from the Nis and GTR concert and
it looked absolutely unreal and I started googling it. I'm like,
(28:00):
holy crap, thisstening looks amazing. So they really are just
all about this radical design and just having a look
at what Volvo is doing with the X ninety and
X thirty. I just think that whole group and what
they're working on at the moment is just really fascinating.
So I think it is pretty cool they're coming to Australia.
I just love that we're getting so much variety now
(28:22):
in terms of what's on sale in Australia. It means
you don't have to just settle for the same thing
that everyone else has. So yeah, I think it's pretty cool.
I can't wait to see them here and take one
for a spin.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I agree. I think I'm looking forward to these actually,
because competition is always a great thing. It brings prices down,
it's good for the consumer, the more for us to choose,
and a lot of people like go Jesus bloody Chinese cash.
But I mean, these guys are bringing what looks to
be an awesome I think it's I'm looking.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
At the.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Zero zero one. I think it is kind of looks
like a plot. I don't know, it looks mad, though
it looks so good.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I agree. I am excited for
their arrival.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Okay, so everyone would remember a month ago that viral
footage that went around. I think it was originally by
car Well on YouTube, but the footage of the cyber
truck taking on a nine to eleven in a drag
race quarter mile. Not only did the cyber truck win,
but it revealed that it was actually winning whilst towig
(29:25):
another nine to eleven. There's an Instagram at account Court
and believe it or not, I follow them. I think
you'd think it's just something nerdy Pavelai would follow, but
it's called Engineering explained, they've busted them, right, they've busted
this to be a little bit of I guess a
little bit of hohoha, a little bit of showbiz magic.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah. So Jason of Engineering explained he actually runs a
YouTube channel and he's famous for standing in front of
a whiteboard and just explaining stuff in layman's terms, and
he decided to tackle the issue with the cyber truck
on the nine to eleven because I did see that
footage as well. I was a little just confused by
(30:02):
it all there, and when Elon Musk claimed that the
cyber truck was quicker across the quarter mile than a
nine to eleven while also towing a nine to eleven,
I thought, my spidy senses are tingling, because there's a
number of issues with this. A cyber truck across the
quarter mile is moving at a rapid pace if it's
as fast as a nine to eleven, Therefore it needs
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to have a trailer with tires that are speed rated,
and towing a car at that speed is just a
stupid idea. So that those things were alarm bells to me.
And also they didn't reveal which nine to eleven it was,
so Anyway, Jason basically debunked this whole thing and discovered
that in the video, they only raced across the eighth mile,
(30:46):
So quarter mile is four hundred and two ish meters,
the eighth mile is half that distant. Then, when he
delved a little further, he discovered that even if Tesla
used the slowest Porsche on sale, which is the Carrera
T manual, that the cyber truck, yeah, the cyber truck
(31:07):
towing something and then towing a car as well, could
still not be faster than the nine to eleven. And
he basically laid it all out in perfect terms. And
the lead engineer for the cyber truck saw this video
and decided to reply in ad is two cents. And
what he revealed, which I just think is totally ridiculous.
(31:31):
He revealed that they only filmed it across the eighth mile,
which we know. He also then revealed the reason they
did into the quarter mile is because the trailer had
tires that were only speed rated to eighty miles an hour,
which is not fast enough to do anything of interest.
And further to that, he said they simulated the quarter
(31:52):
mile and that it would beat the nine to eleven. Now,
there's a few issues with this, so they never actually
did it, So simulating it is just nonsense, and then
claiming it's faster when you never actually tested it is
just stupid.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
One's cool. The secondary the other ones called actual practice.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, the second part is that being a manual transmission
video that requires a driver that is expertly skilled in
shifting gears fast in that specific car to achieve the
optimum time. Now, if you're making a video where you're
claiming you're faster than this other car, you have a
vested interest in the driver of that car being just
(32:32):
a little bit shit. So I mean, why would you
not just pick a PDK nine to eleven where all
you have to do is press the brake and press
the throttle and everything else just happens. And the reason
is it would not be quicker. So they've absolutely ripped
it apart, and the engineer then self incriminated himself by
basically admiting they never actually tested it.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
This kind of falls back to my theory of I
think the people who love this car, who love the
cyber truck, do not give a shit. I mean, the
fact is it's done its purpose, whether it was a
quarter mile or like a half quarter mile whatever it
is an eighth mile.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Onn't what was it an eighth past that class to make.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
You it's kind of irrelevant because the whole shot of
it is, it is what it is. It's sort of
honest to an extent. But yes, the whole quarter mile, Oh,
we simulated it and it fucking still works and it
would beat the nine to eleven. That's ridiculous. That's you
kind of enclaim. That's basically a hypothesis versus practice. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
It's really fast as it is. It's like it is
the acceleration figures for that vehicle already out of this world.
So why would you then go and make up this
shit that you know isn't true and then just play
it like it's just so stupid.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
On the I think it's marketing. We're in a visual world.
People like aren't in consumers of this, Like, fuck, do
you know who drives a cyber truck? Farrell? Farrell drives
a cyber truck. He's his super producery. He was part
of a thing called the Neptunes. He's quite a famous
muso and he's also now like the head creative director
(34:17):
of like Gucci or something like that. So that's your
audience of a truck is someone like Pharrell. They just
want their friends to go check out my car. It
can beat a nine to eleven until a nine to eleven,
even though it's not really true, true, it's showbiz true.
That's enough for an influencer. Do you know what I mean?
(34:40):
That would just I'll just flick their hair and carry on.
But interesting one to kind of go, guys, you've just
been shot on and sort of that engineer probably should
have just shut his mouth a little bit. By the way,
do you know should we just finish out with a
couple of question to you from the gram?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Let's go. Okay, these will be rapid fire questions, so
let's not think too hard about it. Should be easy
for me.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
This one's from Marty Party. Do you think petrol vehicles
kept installed in good nick would be lucrative in twenty
or thirty years as an investment? Are I mean? Yes,
obviously it depends of what car, right, But yes, yes, depends.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
On the car. But I will definitely have some in storage.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
This one is from Mitchell sup Brother falcon Or Commodore
and why I'm going to say Commodore, I don't know.
I feel like I've got a greater affiliation with a
Commodore the great Australian car, right, I mean they look better,
(35:50):
they drive faster.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Gushing, So it depends on the era. For me, there
were some eras where falcon were better than Commodorees and
vice versus. It really depends. I do only have HSV's
at the moment, but I will look to change that
in the near future.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I still reckon that XU six is an amazing forward.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
By the way, x six tuber or the six.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
How is Donna's New Year? Let's throw that to Pavla.
That was from Liam. How was how was Donna's New Year?
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah, sweaty, that's no fireworks? All right?
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Am I ever a pair of lee We'll go out
with a bang doll on. You know it's weird. Started
off this episode saying Paul's on the zoom with the
blue wife beater singleer where his man boobs look like
Donna's croup top. So obviously where you are there would
have been a window. So the sun has gone down,
so all I can basically see is you're faded over time.
(36:54):
There's like all I can see is like this big
Croatian cheesy smile and those creamy kind of arms that
haven't seen the light of day in a long time.
It's like, yeah, I can barely see that pair.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Of duns have just come out. Don't worry that safety's on.
It's okay.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Someone called doctor Chris Brown. Those swans are sick. What
is that under your arm? Is that Donald's vagina? Anyway,
It's actually so this whole episode you've gently faded out.
It's like an episode of Law and Order. I'm just
waiting for it to go for executive produce a dig wolf.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
It's a metaphor for this episode.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yes, this question comes from Doug. Should we import Oh,
should we import the larder nivar again?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah? I reckon. I'm just sick of I don't know,
just especially with all this Hindraus stuff that's happened since
our last episode. And we'll talk about that in the
next episode. I just am sick of people being told
that they can and can't do it. And the reason
it won't get improported is there'll be some safety idiot
that just says you can't have it. It'll be the
(37:58):
same safety idiot that's off the sale on that Tesla. Yeah,
it'll be some stupid rules someone put in place, you
know anyway, But yes, I think they should, but they won't.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
From Henry, give your thoughts on the new Gi Yarus.
I like the Gi Yrris. I don't know. I'm guessing
he's talking about the one that's out right now.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I added an automatic transmission, and okay, yeah, I think
the interior looks a bit stupid, but I am very
keen to drive it because of the seating position which
is lower. And I'm very keen to see what that
auto transmission is like as well, because maybe it was
it was fine, but just an auto in that, if
it's good, should actually really give it a bit of
(38:37):
a reinvigoration.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah, I'm keen to drive it. I like to see.
I love the manual in it. Personally. I think it's good.
The prices are coming down on those those og Gi
yarisis as well, which is good to see. I'm worried
because I feel like this will be like when they
just stuck the auto in the Golfer and there was
no manual. It's just like this one comes from Oh,
(39:01):
This comes from a regular listener intrigues coop. When's the ah,
this is a good one. When's the new line of
merch coming out?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I did see a little tease.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
On your Yeah spoiler it is out and we'll talk
about that in a second. And are we getting are
we getting GTA style merch as well? Where we can
organize that, we can get into that. We'll talk about it.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
There is there you enjoy your creativity there? I was
quite thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
You can tell I was too much of a fractionary
bo mcquarie. This one again comes from in tree coup.
What's the best card to buy? Unto sixty thousand dollars
that you see being a future collector car? So I
don't know if this is new or old. Actually he
does say new or old, So maybe we can do
(39:52):
one of each. Let me see sixty thousand dollars old,
I mean I would still go fuck, they've got their problems,
but I'll still go a nine nine to six. I
reckon you could get under sixty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yes, I'd be going down the path of if we're
talking new. We just spoke about it for the gr yars.
I reckon that car in ten or fifteen years time
will be the most bizarre thing to have on the
road and it will be cool withst car to have
on the road.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Do you reckon? You could get the new Type R
that's probably.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
About seventeen three grand.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
You cough up an extra ten grand and that'll be
a fucking classic, or I may just do that, give
the Type R. So look, merch's out, Merch's here. We've
got a lot of it, So big ups to Gus
from Machines Plus for that legend. We are going to
announce something in the next episode. We've got a few
things to announce actually coming up, some exciting stuff for
(40:45):
everybody plan this year. And yeah, two big things which
we will announce next episode. In the meantime, if you
haven't subscribed to this podcast, if you haven't shared it
with your fucking mar or your mechanic or people in
the know or whoever, please do and give it a
(41:05):
five star rating and leave a little silly comment so
Pavel gets a chuckle and that would be amazing.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah, bloody, And then contact at the Drivers Show dot
com today if you want to shoot us an email you.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
I'm going to put that photo of you Indian bloody
man busy singlet up on the Socials, by the way,
and I'm going to tag you in it and I'm
expecting a shower. See if you put that one, if
you game enough to put that on your own brand,
actually better not Joanna Greggs on it a dribble bib
(41:48):
she already does.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Well. Thank you around for listening. Hopefully we'll have our
next episode out sooner than the rather extended that over Christmas.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
But anyway, thanks for listening to Ron. Catch you next time.
Now, look, I know it's been a while, but you've
really let yourself go.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Let me.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I'm pretty we might be able to get visuals of this,
but if I can give you a bit of a
description of what Paul's wearing, I'm going to put it on. Yeah,
he's got his creamy white arms out. He has well
I want to say it's like the old school blue
(00:38):
singlet slash wife beater, but it more looks like with
those man tits, it looks like Donna's crop top. Literally
have a nipple hanging out the side of your arm.
I'm like, when did you get whoopy Goldberg tits?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I do have an explanation. So firstly, you've got to
driving a land cruise a seventies series, so obviously. But secondly,
I actually had to have some surgery on my chest.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
So did you get light perception.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Reast reduction about It's still fun though.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, trust me, from this point you've still got lots
left our fine bags. Yeah right, okay, anyway, good break,
good good times. Yeah, things were good. Things have had
a good break went all round. Jesus bloody clocked up
the Cays on the c barrow our back.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, did you do some nice sort of hiking. And
what else does siverery drivers do?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
We cut some stuff with scissors.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
My road trip, Missy Higgins got to run the.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Playlist bet repeat.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, the rebeat and Sisters is good. I don't believe
lack dancing. I know there's any or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
It's your economy been Like, I'm interested because my father
and Laura told him to get an outpack and he
got the non turbo. But I'm curious to know where
you're sitting. They do a bit of towering and stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Okay, interesting point you bring that up, because when I
did the when I had the test the car, the
fuel economy fuel economy was sitting in about ten liters per
hundred k's. So this now, given I hadn't done really
much highway driving before this road trip, so the first
(02:44):
three thousand k's have been getting to work them back,
which is about twelve k's. So I was averaging no
shit like seventeen leaders per hundred k's and then yeah,
and then when I was filling up, it was like
it was saying I was getting I was getting. You
know how it tells you how many CA's you'll get
from a full tank. It was saying like two hundred
(03:04):
and eighty, and then I think it was yeah, and
then it rounded up to like maybe I think it
got to about three point twenty at one point, and
so I rang up my guy down there and actually
I rang up super U and he's like, oh, yeah,
do you have a bit of a lead foot. I'm like, mate,
if I took this to fucking colder park, I couldn't
get up to seventeen liters.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
So that's true, Yeah, that's true, or yeah, you should
bring it in. I was like, oh fuck, I can't
be fucked. I cannot be fucked bring in this car.
And I don't have the time this time of the year.
I thought to myself, I'm planning this road trip. I'm
doing a lot of k's in it. Hopefully it's going
to go down by then anyway, and you know, you
do the kind of reset on it and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I managed to get it down to about after a
lot of highway driving, about eight liters.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I think's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, it was still like eight point something, let's say
eight point five, right, I've been back for like a
week or two, and it's crept up to about ten something,
but it doesn't seem right because at first I thought
I reckon, they'd calibrated it wrong. Almost. I was like,
it's almost like this thing's doing it in miles instead
of kilometers. It was so weird, but it was yeah,
(04:18):
it was shitouse, it was shocking. They were just like, yeah,
bring it in, bring it in. Actually, you know, one
thing did happen to me. I was out in a
place called crowdy Head. I bet it was yeah, and
head is not that great in Crowdy Head, I can
tell you right now. But so, it was a reasonably
hot day. It was like thirty degrees and I unlocked
(04:39):
the car. The electronics sort of unlocked it and stuff,
so it sort of let me in, but the car
wouldn't start, and I was like, what the what the fuck?
And it wouldn't start, and so after I was just like,
this isn't happening at all. So I took the secret
emergency key thing out of the clip, I unlocked it
like that and sort of reset it because it wouldn't
(04:59):
even turn and the electrics off. And I called Siparu
and they're like, yeah, it was. It was pretty hot.
It was like thirty degrees I'm like, mate, your car's
literally fucking called outback. It's thirty degrees mate, it ain't
that hot. So yeah, believe it's sort of like bring
it in, bring it in. But look otherwise it's fun.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It sounds great.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
It sounds great. Half, No, I I generally like it.
It's look teething issues, mate's teething issues.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
But it sounds very annoying.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Did your father in law have problems with it?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
No, they've had no dramas with theirs. There is non turbo.
They do a favorit of towing and stuff, so there
has been perfectly fine. And they've got no idea how
to use any of the features. So from that point
of view, it's been all good.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
But did you say features You mean the Apple gar play.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Literally, he didn't know it had it until I showed
him the other week, and he's had the car for
like two years.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
It's a wireless too.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Look, the fuel economy is a bit odd, the heating
thing is a bit strange. I'll get them checked out
and I'll keep you updated. But look, I have to
say as a highway car, it's still one of the best. Like,
it's such a great highway car. The adaptive cruise control
is amazing on it. We went up to Port mcquarie,
fuck and hell, I know you bought your Ranger from
that joint, but Port mcquarie and I got a few
(06:19):
listeners of this show comment going, oh, how bloody goods
Port mcquarie, Paul mcquarie is like a giant retirement village
for fat old people. It's a craze for fat old
people and everyone goes at this really annoying slow speed.
It's like it's sort of not quite slow enough to
(06:42):
toot and get out of the way, but it's almost,
but it's very much a speed where it's like can
we can we get a move on?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's you. I don't like your city slickers around there, Champion.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
No ungine too much of a Harry and Port mcquarie.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I like, but no, you know, the thing I thought
was strange about Port mcquarie, the RSL was great that
there's like a little cafe on the water as well,
which is really nice too.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Are you talking about are you talking about Settlement city?
You're talking about Yeah, you're talking about Panthers only the
one and there's a there's a little bar sort of
thing on the right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, that sounds about right. But I thought it was
odd because there's like a lot of petrol stations, a
lot of car dealerships for a city that's really not
that big. I just it baffles me how there is
so much economic activity. So they must have all just
had a lot of disposable income that they're spending money on.
But I don't know, it's just really fascinating to me.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I think it's very much of a hub of what's
around it too, because if you kind of look at
anywhere from say Tari and then you go north of
Port mcquarie, which would be fucking who knows, it sort
of feels like a bit of a oh maybe because
it coughs harbor, I don't know, but it feels like
a bit of a hub catching yeah, between everything in between.
(08:03):
So yeah, you're right though, you'll get like the big
Bunnings and you'll get all the car dealerships. And I
spent New Year's Eve there too.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Wow did your party like it was nineteen eighty six? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
My resolution was do not have New Year's Eve here again?
But yeah, did you go away?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
No? No, not really.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I feel like with that singler when I say did
you go away? It's like talking about prison time.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
It was just six months, you know. Yeah, so it
was fine.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
You did appear on a list next to Trevor and
Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So I did have a fine fifty over Christmas. And
it's somewhat limited where I could go because it was
the long wheelbase and at six point three or four
meters long. It's sort of not as to annoy a
lot of people because every time I parked it, I
would be in someone's way, and often they were some
woke sort of Tesla driver that would take issue with
(09:11):
me driving that thing. But yeah, it kind of limited,
but for a long distance drive it was so great.
So did a lot of longer distance highway driving. And
I can see why Americans love them. They find fifty
is the best selling car in the States. And it's
not hard to see ryan.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Beast of a looking car, such a base like it's
got such a great presence about it. It's kit it
out well too, like that can't be ignored. I reckon
for a long time Americans are really sucked when it
comes to interior, but that cars kit it out really
well tech wise too.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, they do a really good job with them. There's
a whole step of interesting stuff they've got on them,
but forward, I just don't know how they managed to
get doing this. But they had just stop selling them,
stop delivering them because there was a remanufacturing issue. So
basically the turbo hose was collapsing on itself and causing
the engine to go into limp mo. Then they just
had to stop delivering them. All these customers that were
(10:02):
expecting them just before Chrissy, we're told, nah, he could
come back later. So I know two guys that canceled
their orders, like, nah, fuck it, I'm not going to
wait any longer. I'll just go buy something else. So
I'm curious to if anyone's listening to this. If you
had fifty on order, have you kept the order based
on them sort of fucking everyone around, or are you
(10:25):
sort of looking for something else.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I wonder what the wait times are like on those now.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well, yeah, exactly, so initially there was there was a
lot of white time, But I really don't know what
the situation is if they've started deliveries again, and if
they haven't, the wait time is just going to keep
growing because no one's actually getting any of their cars,
So I don't even know if they have a solution
to the problem. So, yeah, it's a it's a bloody
weird one.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Talk about a bloody weird one. He did a bloody
weird road trip with what's his name, Joe Achilles. Yes,
are you guys fucking what? I only brief it just
it was just a little fleing fling.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
No, we did a road trip and it was it
was good fun and we meant to do a podcast
episode with with Joe and I think recall you were
a little sick, had the sniffles.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, I had. I had the social media martis rest
in peace with Anyway, enough of that, Sorry for our
social activity is a bit low for for the next
couple of weeks anyway, not the point. Yeah, No, we
were supposed to do a little cute little episode with him.
Maybe we can get him on the zoom sometimes when
(11:36):
we're all together. Let's put him on the list, let's
put him on the guest list. Just before you get
into this, I think it's if you're going to do
a road trip, i'd say do it in style, especially
because the Melbourne to Sydney sitting to Melbourne trip, there's
some there's some great scenery and there's some good toilet stops,
but my point is do it in a in a
(11:56):
luxury car, like did you have that? Was it the
seven series?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
It was the seven series. But I just want to
challenge your toilet stops because on the New South Wales side,
the toilets are all like long drops, which I think
is disgusting for a major highway. It's not like you're driving,
so if you need to pull over, drop it's when
you climb.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Is that a little like a little position that you
and did that? I'll tell you is what I've got
a long drop?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
So it's it's when you need to go to the toilet.
You pull over and you can see the cubicle. It's
up on stairs and as you approach it, you have
this horrific smell and you're like, I wonder what that is.
You get inside the little cubicle, open the toilet lid
and it's just a hole that goes down to a
pile of shit and urine and that's the toilet. And
(12:49):
it's like, surely we are a little more civilized than
this on a major freeway.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Why didn't you go to a macasin or something?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Like that, I don't know where they are. I'm just driving.
I need to go to the toilet. I thought I'll
pull over, which I've done in Victoria there's actual toilets. Anyway,
one of them had a glory hold.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That I was did you pull over in that sieglet
You would have got planed right out.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
But seriously, one of the cubicles. We'll get to the
road trip in a second. I'm sort of sitting there
looking at the cubicle. I'm like, what is that in
the wall? And it was a whole bunch of toilet
paper in a hole and I'm like, that is so.
And then I walked around to the next cubicle and
the hole went through to the other cubicle. I'm like, oh,
I see what this is. Anyway, so we did a
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road trip from Melbourne to Sydney and the theory the
hypothesis was is it cheaper, specifically for a road trip
to drive a petrol car or an electric car? And
we did this at the end of last year because
we wanted to publish it with Christmas coming up and
everyone doing road trips if they had an electric car,
(13:54):
I wanted to show them what is the best thing
to do. So anyway, we picked the seven Series because
they sell a seven Series in petrol and also full electric,
so we wanted to have the same car as opposed
to just different cars. And of course we wanted to
not be bored to death, so I thought picked something nice.
So anyway, we left Hawthorne in Victoria. Both cars were
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at one hundred percent and we wanted to drive to Tarcata,
which is the halfway point between Melbourne and Sydney, and
that's four hundred and fifty k's away.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Now, the car showed, can I just quickly pause you
there when you started that little road trip of yours?
And you so you started with a full charge and
did did Joe what you like to call, brim his tank?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
He did? Now, right right to the to the rim.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, exactly. You've got to fucking stop saying. Oh, anyway,
so we brim the tank like you're something special. I've
thought about it. When I was filling up. I think
I was in Tarkata or try Fucker or wherever the
fuck I was. I'm like, you just fill it. Most
people fill it up till it clicks a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Now, maybe you want a.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Little bit of extra juice and check a little bit
like why the tank.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
No, it's when you bring it. You need to bring
the fuel until it is about to overflow, because if
you go to the first click, the clicking in the
hose is basically air coming back up the hose, and
when it's a texted it stops the flow. So you
can depending on density and how full your tank is,
it might click early. So you need to have a
(15:34):
visual indicator of where the fuel is, so that is
called brimming it. So anyway, we bringed a bit and
so tar cutters four hundred and fifty ks away and
the electric VMW showed the driving range of five and
fifty seven or something, and I thought, my drums will
piss it in. So anyway, we're driving along, and while
(15:55):
we're driving, we'll stopped for a rebreak at.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
The place with the.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Whole and I've got a text message from one of
the girls at the office and she goes, oh, have
you had any issues with charging because the Optus networks down.
I'm like, it's been charged yet, but I assume it'll
be okay, and she goes, no, that EV network is down,
and that was the charger we needed to use in Tarcata,
and we were still about one hundred and fifty k's
from Tarkata. So I'm like, well, let's just keep going
(16:20):
and we'll see what happens when we get there. Anyway,
as we're getting closer, my range is like dropping rapidly,
and we get to Tarkata with two percent of battery
range left, and so the car had lost twenty percent
of its range effectively because it was going five hundred
and fifty to start with. And thankfully that charger was
working despite it being on the on the EV network.
(16:43):
And just just for those playing at home who want
a bit of a technical explanation about why an EV
does that. Basically, when you charge it to full, it
says it has a computer inside that says, well, my
program deficiency allows me to do five hundred and fifty
kilometers if it's driven within a typical drive and a
typical driver is how they certify these vehicles for their
(17:06):
driving range. So when you're driving on the freeway, there's
no real chance for region or a limited chance for
a region. In addition to that, there's an elevation change
between Melbourne and Tarkata, so you are predominantly driving uphill,
so effectively, instead of being in and around the city
where you're slowing down and speeding up, you're just driving uphill.
You're just using energy. So that is where you get
(17:27):
that energy reduction. But the good thing is that when
you get to Suton Forests down towards Sydney, it's predominantly
downhill because you're going from an elevation of six hundred
meters to zero and basically we're able to put twenty
kilo eight hours of energy back into the battery during
those descents. So it's got a long story short. We
got to Sydney, we brimmed the car again right up
(17:50):
to the rim, and basically found that it was cheaper
to do the road trip in a petrol car that
ended up costing almost twenty dollars less, and that was
ninety eight rong unleaded put into the BMW and fuel
was expensive as well as two dollars ten at the time.
And also it was a six minute phil as opposed
to two hours and eight minutes of sitting there charging.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So does that surprise you, Uh no, not really, it's
I mean I've sort of said it before, I think
anyone and fuck it go back and listen to any
of our John Kudogan episodes because he puts it brilliantly.
But if you think for one second, like one you're
buying an EV to save the planet and fucking reduce
your carbon foot prints and whatever, you're just not cheaper
(18:35):
running costs and all that sort of thing. I think
time and time again this is unless you have a
way to charge your car at home, you know, off
peak and all that sort of stuff, I think that's
probably the better way to do it. But oh, with Solar,
I think were I've always said, I think we're EV
stand right now in twenty twenty four are a commuter
car their grades to sort of commute around cities and
(18:55):
stuff like that. I would not want to do a
road trip in an EV, Like yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I'm totally with you on that, and look to be.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, we're not there yet, Like you've just kind of
proved a point, like we're definitely not there yet where
we need to be in terms of like charging infrastructure,
Like the fuck A network went down and that was
putting things into disarray, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Like yeah, and look, the flip side is, you know,
if you're driving in and around the city, have solar
at home, and EV will always be cheaper than a
petrol car to run in those circumstances. And I think
that with the network going down, if you went to
a petrol station, you would have been able to put
fuel in your car, but you wouldn't have been able
to pay with their post and all that sort of stuff.
But you still could have paid with cash, which you
(19:42):
couldn't do at an EB charger. But the other thing
is that the charge right since we filmed this have
gone up by almost forty percent depending on what speed
you choose. And then I mean it is just going
In the history of electricity prices, they have never gone down.
And so anyone that thinks that when we move to
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renewables and all this sort of stuff that electricity will
become cheaper, I mean they are absolutely kidding themselves. And
that's the case. It means you're charging it's going to
become more expensive. And then in addition to that, the
government currently takes forty five forty seven cents per letter
from petrol excise. So the second act disappears and we're
all driving around in evs. Guess who they're going to
come and start taxing, and that is everyone. So just
(20:26):
because you charge it at home, that I'm going to
let you get away with that. So yeah, look, I
think that it is an interesting one. What I did
find though, is that people get very triggered by this.
You either had the people that are just like, yeah,
I fucking told you evs are just shit. Everyone I
told you. So then you had the flip side, which
(20:46):
was people who love evs who were telling us about
everything we did wrong or everything they thought we did wrong,
to the point where some of the stuff was just fanciful.
They were like, oh, you should have stopped here, here, here,
and here, and it would have been cheap. And I'm like, yeah,
but I already wasted two hours and eight minutes charging
You want me to hour waste even more time going
off the freeway and going into some town because there's
(21:09):
some charger next to our hotel somewhere. Yeah, there's just
a lot of Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Also, this is a fucking simple road trip. This isn't
like some strategy plan where I'm trying to that'st find
clues like, yeah, we're not a road trip level for
this sort of stuff. Yet we're just not.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
No, And look as an EV owner. When it came
to Christmas time, I had the fin fifty. I chose
to drive that everywhere we went because there is no
way I want to get stuck in a queue with
other people waiting to charge and all that sort of nonsense.
Even if I didn't have the Finn fifty, I would
have driven my Raptor. There's no way I would drive
an electric car during busy peak periods on longer road trips,
(21:48):
because it is just a recipe for disaster. That's what
my thought.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Hey, you know what did you find it to be
a smoother ride like? Because obviously it's an EV. I've
always said that evs and luxury cars just go together
so well, And to me, I reckon, that's at the moment,
at this point in time, that's where the EV market
is excelling. Is a luxury car game?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Well, look not really. I mean the seven was lovely.
It was really nice to drive. It was like thirty degrees.
We had the pulled seats running, air conditioner was cranked,
so it was all fine. But Joe and the seventh boardy,
I mean it's the same car. It weighs six hundred
kilos less, so the riders typically better, and he ended
up using something like six leaders per one hundred ks,
which is nothing. And I mean if you switch out
(22:30):
his car for a Wrap four hybrid which uses two
leaders per one hundred less and can run on ninety
one run fuel as well, it would be even cheaper. Still,
So I think that as a road trip vehicle, it's
just a it's a no brainer. You know what you
would have thought when yd brought the three and they
had issues with a tether point in the center seat
(22:51):
in the second row and they had to stop sail
and fix it. Wouldn't you at that point have gone, Okay,
I'm bringing a car into Australia. I'm going to triple
check that there is a place where I can hook
my kid up to in the middle of the second row,
because it is a rule, and someone has just been
dicked for this. Matt memo didn't get through the wizards
(23:11):
at Tesla because the Model three is now no longer
on sale and can no longer be delivered to customers,
and the customers that do have a car now have
doubts over whether they could actually keep driving it because
they had this exact same issue.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how they overcome this.
So basically what's happened is Tesla have had to pause
sales in Australia because their center Child's restraint to the
point has not been installed. They've got the two end ones,
but compliance in Australia says you need to have the
middle one if you've got the middle seat. Now byd
(23:47):
did this go about eighteen months ago and had to
stop the sales, as you said, of the A three,
but they managed to kind of clean that up fairly well.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
So did some really good crime coms on that as well.
Say that again, you guys did some really good crisis
comms on that at Big ID as well.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, thank you, thank you. Sorry, Hang on, what's that
Emperor Mao take him out? Yes, sir, I just want
to say so, I am here with the Alliance, Yes,
locked into the regime. I'll take him out. That's the anthem,
isn't It's.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Not an inspected gadget.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
The Emperor Mao is just like on a big throne,
like I'll get you next time, Marrik, next time. Yeah.
The compliance thing is fucking how what are you doing?
You're the most popular, well known EV company on the planet.
Everybody knows who you are. You think your boys down
(24:54):
at the Compliance Division would kind of check when they're
launching the new thing in to Australia.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
You know, you know what as well? I reckon someone
at the Department of it's the Department of hold on,
let me read this out because I thought it was
the funniest thing in the world. It is the Department
of Department. No, no, it was the Department of Transport
and Planning. Apparently it's on the Department of Transport, Agriculture
(25:23):
Planning and corn Flags or whatever it is. But someone
they would have gone, Okay, I have nothing to do
every day, and they would have seen this come in
and gone, oh my god, we have hit them other load.
I cannot wait to stop saleon this. They must just
sit there and go please, just don't have a top
ten point in the middle.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Jeffrey, Jeffrey, you're not going to believe what you fucking
happened to you Teshler have made a big old cock up.
I can't wait to fucking talk to the boys about
this one.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yes, no, I am.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I'm getting to getting only bit of a stiffy over it.
I haven't seen you in forty years It's like seeing
an old friend yish madey tishla fucked up. Oh Jesus,
I was thinking, my bloody blow dust.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
That's how I imagine driver's sex will have. Guys wonder where
that kupra took him over the holidays.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, he loves defending that thing as well, which is good.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, loves it. Hey, listen, Chinese ev brand Zeka are
coming to Australia. These guys are owned by well of
the same people who own Volvo and Pollstar and is it?
Is it the Geley group?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Right?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I was thinking when this news article came across my desk,
this is just totally sidetracked. I once wrote a bit
of copy for Geely Technically, yeah, I write a radio
ad for Proton, Remember Proton?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Was it the jump Buck Satria?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Oh my god, the jump I think it could have
been the jump Buck or was there like a Proton
three or something? That jumbuck was there, fucking ute, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
That's it?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah? I felt like there was like a Proton three
or something. I don't know what it was, but I
remember Geely also own Loaders. Yeah, I've got a feeling
it was. I was riding it because some of the
chassis or some of the parts were designed by loaders.
In this Proton something.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Like engineered by loaders that had a badge on it.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, that was their big claim to fame. Anyway, Zeka
coming to Australia. What do you make of these cars?
By the way, Well, I saw.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
One at Munich Airport last year and we were driving
in and I'm like, what the fuck is that? And
it was the stupidly fast sedan thing that has a
very inspired design from the Nis and GTR concert and
it looked absolutely unreal and I started googling it. I'm like,
(28:00):
holy crap, thisstening looks amazing. So they really are just
all about this radical design and just having a look
at what Volvo is doing with the X ninety and
X thirty. I just think that whole group and what
they're working on at the moment is just really fascinating.
So I think it is pretty cool they're coming to Australia.
I just love that we're getting so much variety now
(28:22):
in terms of what's on sale in Australia. It means
you don't have to just settle for the same thing
that everyone else has. So yeah, I think it's pretty cool.
I can't wait to see them here and take one
for a spin.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I agree. I think I'm looking forward to these actually,
because competition is always a great thing. It brings prices down,
it's good for the consumer, the more for us to choose,
and a lot of people like go Jesus bloody Chinese cash.
But I mean, these guys are bringing what looks to
be an awesome I think it's I'm looking.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
At the.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Zero zero one. I think it is kind of looks
like a plot. I don't know, it looks mad, though
it looks so good.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I agree. I am excited for
their arrival.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Okay, so everyone would remember a month ago that viral
footage that went around. I think it was originally by
car Well on YouTube, but the footage of the cyber
truck taking on a nine to eleven in a drag
race quarter mile. Not only did the cyber truck win,
but it revealed that it was actually winning whilst towig
(29:25):
another nine to eleven. There's an Instagram at account Court
and believe it or not, I follow them. I think
you'd think it's just something nerdy Pavelai would follow, but
it's called Engineering explained, they've busted them, right, they've busted
this to be a little bit of I guess a
little bit of hohoha, a little bit of showbiz magic.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah. So Jason of Engineering explained he actually runs a
YouTube channel and he's famous for standing in front of
a whiteboard and just explaining stuff in layman's terms, and
he decided to tackle the issue with the cyber truck
on the nine to eleven because I did see that
footage as well. I was a little just confused by
(30:02):
it all there, and when Elon Musk claimed that the
cyber truck was quicker across the quarter mile than a
nine to eleven while also towing a nine to eleven,
I thought, my spidy senses are tingling, because there's a
number of issues with this. A cyber truck across the
quarter mile is moving at a rapid pace if it's
as fast as a nine to eleven, Therefore it needs
(30:25):
to have a trailer with tires that are speed rated,
and towing a car at that speed is just a
stupid idea. So that those things were alarm bells to me.
And also they didn't reveal which nine to eleven it was,
so Anyway, Jason basically debunked this whole thing and discovered
that in the video, they only raced across the eighth mile,
(30:46):
So quarter mile is four hundred and two ish meters,
the eighth mile is half that distant. Then, when he
delved a little further, he discovered that even if Tesla
used the slowest Porsche on sale, which is the Carrera
T manual, that the cyber truck, yeah, the cyber truck
(31:07):
towing something and then towing a car as well, could
still not be faster than the nine to eleven. And
he basically laid it all out in perfect terms. And
the lead engineer for the cyber truck saw this video
and decided to reply in ad is two cents. And
what he revealed, which I just think is totally ridiculous.
(31:31):
He revealed that they only filmed it across the eighth mile,
which we know. He also then revealed the reason they
did into the quarter mile is because the trailer had
tires that were only speed rated to eighty miles an hour,
which is not fast enough to do anything of interest.
And further to that, he said they simulated the quarter
(31:52):
mile and that it would beat the nine to eleven. Now,
there's a few issues with this, so they never actually
did it, So simulating it is just nonsense, and then
claiming it's faster when you never actually tested it is
just stupid.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
One's cool. The secondary the other ones called actual practice.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, the second part is that being a manual transmission
video that requires a driver that is expertly skilled in
shifting gears fast in that specific car to achieve the
optimum time. Now, if you're making a video where you're
claiming you're faster than this other car, you have a
vested interest in the driver of that car being just
(32:32):
a little bit shit. So I mean, why would you
not just pick a PDK nine to eleven where all
you have to do is press the brake and press
the throttle and everything else just happens. And the reason
is it would not be quicker. So they've absolutely ripped
it apart, and the engineer then self incriminated himself by
basically admiting they never actually tested it.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
This kind of falls back to my theory of I
think the people who love this car, who love the
cyber truck, do not give a shit. I mean, the
fact is it's done its purpose, whether it was a
quarter mile or like a half quarter mile whatever it
is an eighth mile.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Onn't what was it an eighth past that class to make.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
You it's kind of irrelevant because the whole shot of
it is, it is what it is. It's sort of
honest to an extent. But yes, the whole quarter mile, Oh,
we simulated it and it fucking still works and it
would beat the nine to eleven. That's ridiculous. That's you
kind of enclaim. That's basically a hypothesis versus practice. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
It's really fast as it is. It's like it is
the acceleration figures for that vehicle already out of this world.
So why would you then go and make up this
shit that you know isn't true and then just play
it like it's just so stupid.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
On the I think it's marketing. We're in a visual world.
People like aren't in consumers of this, Like, fuck, do
you know who drives a cyber truck? Farrell? Farrell drives
a cyber truck. He's his super producery. He was part
of a thing called the Neptunes. He's quite a famous
muso and he's also now like the head creative director
(34:17):
of like Gucci or something like that. So that's your
audience of a truck is someone like Pharrell. They just
want their friends to go check out my car. It
can beat a nine to eleven until a nine to eleven,
even though it's not really true, true, it's showbiz true.
That's enough for an influencer. Do you know what I mean?
(34:40):
That would just I'll just flick their hair and carry on.
But interesting one to kind of go, guys, you've just
been shot on and sort of that engineer probably should
have just shut his mouth a little bit. By the way,
do you know should we just finish out with a
couple of question to you from the gram?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Let's go. Okay, these will be rapid fire questions, so
let's not think too hard about it. Should be easy
for me.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
This one's from Marty Party. Do you think petrol vehicles
kept installed in good nick would be lucrative in twenty
or thirty years as an investment? Are I mean? Yes,
obviously it depends of what car, right, But yes, yes, depends.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
On the car. But I will definitely have some in storage.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
This one is from Mitchell sup Brother falcon Or Commodore
and why I'm going to say Commodore, I don't know.
I feel like I've got a greater affiliation with a
Commodore the great Australian car, right, I mean they look better,
(35:50):
they drive faster.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Gushing, So it depends on the era. For me, there
were some eras where falcon were better than Commodorees and
vice versus. It really depends. I do only have HSV's
at the moment, but I will look to change that
in the near future.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I still reckon that XU six is an amazing forward.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
By the way, x six tuber or the six.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
How is Donna's New Year? Let's throw that to Pavla.
That was from Liam. How was how was Donna's New Year?
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah, sweaty, that's no fireworks? All right?
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Am I ever a pair of lee We'll go out
with a bang doll on. You know it's weird. Started
off this episode saying Paul's on the zoom with the
blue wife beater singleer where his man boobs look like
Donna's croup top. So obviously where you are there would
have been a window. So the sun has gone down,
so all I can basically see is you're faded over time.
(36:54):
There's like all I can see is like this big
Croatian cheesy smile and those creamy kind of arms that
haven't seen the light of day in a long time.
It's like, yeah, I can barely see that pair.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Of duns have just come out. Don't worry that safety's on.
It's okay.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Someone called doctor Chris Brown. Those swans are sick. What
is that under your arm? Is that Donald's vagina? Anyway,
It's actually so this whole episode you've gently faded out.
It's like an episode of Law and Order. I'm just
waiting for it to go for executive produce a dig wolf.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
It's a metaphor for this episode.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yes, this question comes from Doug. Should we import Oh,
should we import the larder nivar again?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah? I reckon. I'm just sick of I don't know,
just especially with all this Hindraus stuff that's happened since
our last episode. And we'll talk about that in the
next episode. I just am sick of people being told
that they can and can't do it. And the reason
it won't get improported is there'll be some safety idiot
that just says you can't have it. It'll be the
(37:58):
same safety idiot that's off the sale on that Tesla. Yeah,
it'll be some stupid rules someone put in place, you
know anyway, But yes, I think they should, but they won't.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
From Henry, give your thoughts on the new Gi Yarus.
I like the Gi Yrris. I don't know. I'm guessing
he's talking about the one that's out right now.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I added an automatic transmission, and okay, yeah, I think
the interior looks a bit stupid, but I am very
keen to drive it because of the seating position which
is lower. And I'm very keen to see what that
auto transmission is like as well, because maybe it was
it was fine, but just an auto in that, if
it's good, should actually really give it a bit of
(38:37):
a reinvigoration.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah, I'm keen to drive it. I like to see.
I love the manual in it. Personally. I think it's good.
The prices are coming down on those those og Gi
yarisis as well, which is good to see. I'm worried
because I feel like this will be like when they
just stuck the auto in the Golfer and there was
no manual. It's just like this one comes from Oh,
(39:01):
This comes from a regular listener intrigues coop. When's the ah,
this is a good one. When's the new line of
merch coming out?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I did see a little tease.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
On your Yeah spoiler it is out and we'll talk
about that in a second. And are we getting are
we getting GTA style merch as well? Where we can
organize that, we can get into that. We'll talk about it.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
There is there you enjoy your creativity there? I was
quite thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
You can tell I was too much of a fractionary
bo mcquarie. This one again comes from in tree coup.
What's the best card to buy? Unto sixty thousand dollars
that you see being a future collector car? So I
don't know if this is new or old. Actually he
does say new or old, So maybe we can do
(39:52):
one of each. Let me see sixty thousand dollars old,
I mean I would still go fuck, they've got their problems,
but I'll still go a nine nine to six. I
reckon you could get under sixty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yes, I'd be going down the path of if we're
talking new. We just spoke about it for the gr yars.
I reckon that car in ten or fifteen years time
will be the most bizarre thing to have on the
road and it will be cool withst car to have
on the road.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Do you reckon? You could get the new Type R
that's probably.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
About seventeen three grand.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
You cough up an extra ten grand and that'll be
a fucking classic, or I may just do that, give
the Type R. So look, merch's out, Merch's here. We've
got a lot of it, So big ups to Gus
from Machines Plus for that legend. We are going to
announce something in the next episode. We've got a few
things to announce actually coming up, some exciting stuff for
(40:45):
everybody plan this year. And yeah, two big things which
we will announce next episode. In the meantime, if you
haven't subscribed to this podcast, if you haven't shared it
with your fucking mar or your mechanic or people in
the know or whoever, please do and give it a
(41:05):
five star rating and leave a little silly comment so
Pavel gets a chuckle and that would be amazing.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah, bloody, And then contact at the Drivers Show dot
com today if you want to shoot us an email you.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
I'm going to put that photo of you Indian bloody
man busy singlet up on the Socials, by the way,
and I'm going to tag you in it and I'm
expecting a shower. See if you put that one, if
you game enough to put that on your own brand,
actually better not Joanna Greggs on it a dribble bib
(41:48):
she already does.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Well. Thank you around for listening. Hopefully we'll have our
next episode out sooner than the rather extended that over Christmas.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
But anyway, thanks for listening to Ron. Catch you next time.
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