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May 8, 2025 72 mins

Mads Mathiesen is a Research Partner at Maven 11.

In this episode, we’re joined by a crypto-native VC fund Maven 11 to explore what it really means to be early in crypto. We discuss how their team identifies high conviction investments, like opinionated applications, consumer apps, and stablecoin payment systems. Plus, more on why the next wave of winners may look different from the last!

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Timestamps

0:00 - Intro
4:02 - Being early at Maven 11
6:34 - What got Mads into crypto
11:04 - Has crypto lost its way?
13:35 - Making early stage investing more accessible
15:58 - How private investments typically work at crypto VCs
19:37 - Criticisms over high FDV token launches
24:20 - Fat protocol vs fat app thesis
28:42 - Sponsor break
29:22 - How fat protocol winners might perform in the fat app era
33:14 - Can fat protocol winners evolve for better value accrual?
36:04 - Huge opportunity for app developers who understand infra
39:02 - Why invest in “opinionated applications”
41:41 - Sponsor break
43:19 - Investing in “extensions of existing ecosystems”
46:25 - The demand to invest in consumer apps
50:08 - Outsized opportunity remains in stablecoins
56:37 - Trends around yield-bearing stablecoins
1:00:27 - Private credit boom coming onchain
1:08:10 - What learning resource would Mads recommend?
1:10:50 - Closing

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🔗 Guest Links 🔗

► Maven 11 website: https://www.maven11.com/
► Maven 11 on X: https://x.com/Maven11Capital
► Mads on X: https://x.com/0xRainandCoffee
► Tim Roughgarden Lectures: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcH4Ga14Y4ELFKrEYM1vXCg

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