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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I do not believe that you should rely on Western
medicine if you are wanting toheal yourself, but if there is a
car accident or a heart attack,I believe that it's here for a
reason.
I just believe we need to havemore of bridging between
traditional and Western.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
What's unfortunate?
That something really drastichas to happen to us for us to
understand that we need to startreally looking out for our
health.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
I had a worm in my broccoli that I grew myself.
They're coming from the dirt,it's all natural.
This is natural, this is mothernature, and they're here to
decompose.
I do not believe that youshould have parasites in your
body.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
When you talk about these things like a worm in
someone's brain, it just soundslike a movie.
It's very sci-fi, but thesethings are really out there.
Paras parasites actually livein our bodies, and the worst
part is that they live in thebodies of our little children.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
They're peeing and pooping and our body doesn't
know what to do.
So if you are deworming and youget a huge ammonia taste in
your mouth, more than likelyit's because you just had a worm
just pee.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Hello everyone.
Today I want to introduce youto a very good friend of mine
who I've met and have had someassociations with, and her name
is Kim Rogers, known as the warmqueen on TikTok, on Instagram,
and not only here in the Statesbut worldwide.
She is phenomenal.
She has worked with so manypeople in relating to mushrooms
and also her wonderful cleansesystem.

(01:37):
Rogers Hood, I want tointroduce you to her because she
talks about tapeworms and allkinds of worms and heavy metals
and mold related to our bodies,and why I wanted to bring her on
is because there's so manypeople that are chronically ill
and half majority of the timeit's due to these parasites.

(01:58):
We're talking about parasiteshere.
Yes, they do exist.
They live in our bodies.
Sometimes we can have 300 to400 of them, but there are
thousands of them that are noteven discovered yet.
Why I wanted to bring her on isbecause, again, chronic illness
is severe and it was reallyimportant to have on somebody

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that educates us on tapeworms,on these parasites, how we can
get rid of them.
She teaches on how to properlycook our food, where to look for
these parasites, how toproperly wash our produce, where
these worms are in our produceand overall how parasites affect
our body or what our negativesymptoms are.

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She talked about how it'srelated to MS, how it's related
to cancer, some tumors.
Overall, it was a veryscholarly conversation.
I do have to say that it mightbe a trigger warning for some
because it was a pretty gnarlydescription and conversation,
but if your stomach can handleit, I highly recommend for you

(03:01):
guys to watch this podcast withKim because it was full of
information on parasites.
She does talk about the cleanse, what ingredients she entails
in the cleanse, what teas we cantake, what sometimes pills that
we can take from foreigncountries that can help declense
us.
Most importantly, I want youguys to really hold in on the

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symptoms of what you mightexperience.
That entails and gives it awaythat you have parasites.
So wait and enjoy this podcast,and you might want to listen to
this with a friend or yourfamily too.
It's not just for yourself.
I think anybody in the familycould enjoy it.
Make sure to also subscribe tothe channel.
Ring the bell, everything thatyou guys have been doing to

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support me in the podcast andenjoy this amazing show with Kim
Rogers.
Hi, kim, hi, I'm so happy thatyou're here today.
Thanks for having me.
Oh my gosh, absolutely.
I actually to everybody.
I wanted to kind of say how Irun into you.
So I found you on TikTok andyou had an amazing video on

(04:08):
worms and I was just fascinatedand you were like pointing to
the worms and I was like what isthis?
And he was actually aboutparasites.
So I was intrigued by that.
But I love your entire purpose.
I really do.
I love your page, both pages onTikTok and on Instagram.
I think that you're doing aphenomenal job helping people
and waking up people to this.

(04:29):
So tell us, how did you getinto this?

Speaker 1 (04:33):
field.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
And you are the worm queen, so you're very well
seasoned in this.
So tell us, how did you getinto this?
What happened that you foundthis?

Speaker 1 (04:41):
interest the worm queen.
I laugh every time.
I say it Really yeah, it's justfun, but funny, it is funny
actually I'm this interest theworm queen.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
I laugh every time.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
I say it Really.
Yeah, it's just fun, but funny.
It is funny actually, it isright.
Who would think that someonecould be the worm queen?
Like honestly, it was betterthan the worm lady.
That's the joke.
I didn't want to be known asthe worm lady.
Tiktok deemed me worm queen, soit wasn't like I gave it to
myself.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, well you are, you're so knowledgeable.
Yes, thanks, it's kind of youknow.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I guess this is why I'm here.
I know this is why I'm here.
Yeah, I know I was put here sothat we could have discussions
about holistic medicine andhealing the body and traditional
ways of doing it and justreally understanding that there
are things out there to help youheal, and that's totally what
happened for me.
So I was on the trail right ofWestern medicine.

(05:31):
I worked in Western medicinesince 2004.
I ended up getting twohealthcare degrees.
I was a professor, I authoredbooks, I did all the things, but
my health was terrible.
I was declining in my healtharound 2015.
I started to really decline.
I had had 13 surgeries, ahysterectomy by the time I was
29.
And I'd been on two rounds oflike Lupron, which is a form of

(05:54):
chemo.
It kind of ate my bones, so Ireally was not doing well at all
my goodness Kim.
And we ended up trying to figureout how to heal me because I'd
had so many surgeries I couldn'thave anymore.
And I saw I showed you guys apicture of what I looked like-
before I did.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
That's phenomenal.
Yeah, Tell us.
What do you think was going onwith your body?
What was contributing to thishealth decline?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
I feel like for sure.
I know it was cryptosporidiumparvium, which is parvo which
kills puppies.
That is what I had fromcontaminated water, our water in
our log home.
So I really believed that I hadpinworms prior because I had my
appendix removed and a lot ofpeople that have their appendix

(06:41):
removed actually have pinworms.
That's where they live andreside and so a lot yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
So, water, water.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
From water, from my.
Yeah, so the second half of allof like my health declining was
after we moved to our propertywhere there's contaminated water
and where is this?
In Hoodsport, washington.
That's where Mrs Rogers Hoodcame from, really.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
How Mrs Rogers Hood came from.
Really, yeah, how did you findout that it was from water?
So in 2021, I did the parasitecleanse with another company and
I saw the worms and I saw allthe things in the toilet flukes,
pinworms, roundworm and then Istill wasn't getting better,
even after doing like 30 fulldays of Paragard.
It ripped my stomach up.

(07:25):
I was having a lot of healthissues still from it and I was
like why, if I'm continuing tocleanse like this?
So it was like June, july, Istarted to wrap up cleansing and
I still was seeing things.
I still wasn't feeling good andthen around August I started
again.
And then around the end ofAugust I started to figure out

(07:48):
it can't just be from our food,like something else has happened
, that I'm still this sick withthis.
And so I got my stool testedfrom an independent lab, because
LabCorp just doesn't really.
You have to have a practitionerto test that stool and there's
just no really accurate testingout there for parasites in
Western medicine countries.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
I don't know why.
What was the test calledparticularly?
It's just a stool test.
Just a stool test thatdetermines for parasites.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Okay, he does like 37 different parasites and worms.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
So that's how many types of parasites there are.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Oh, there's thousands but they only test, for they're
only capable of testing foraround 35, 40.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
How do we get these parasites in our body?
How do they appear in our body?
Is it from just contaminatedwater?
Or it's from food?
I mean, people love sushi.
I know that Salmon Salmon's abig one.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Undercooked pork Dirt when you go out and you are
walking barefoot, by no means amI saying don't ground, but I am
saying that have an area where,if you're going to ground in
that area, make sure your petisn't going to the bathroom
there, because pets carryparasites.
So if you have a pet, youshould be deworming.
You deworm your pet, you needto deworm yourself and you

(09:02):
should all do it at the sametime.
So that's an issue that a lotof pet owners don't know they
should be deworming.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I've seen parasites in bananas.
Did you see that one video.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
It was your video?

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Is that banana organic at least?

Speaker 1 (09:20):
I don't believe organic is any better than
non-organic.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
In fact, organic doesn't have the pesticides
right.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
So pesticides are keeping those bugs off of there.
That's why I always say soakyour produce, whether it's even
at your house.
I had a worm in my broccolithat I grew myself.
They're coming from the dirt,it's all natural.
This is natural, this is MotherNature, and they're here to
decompose.
I do not believe that youshould have parasites in your

(09:47):
body.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
So I was just going to ask is it natural to have
parasites in our body?

Speaker 1 (09:50):
I don't believe so A lot of.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
GI doctors are saying you have natural ones in your
microbiomes.
I don't know how realistic thatis, so you disagree with that?

Speaker 1 (09:58):
I do.
I do disagree because they'restealing nutrients.
They are.
They're not necessarily doingeverything that they're saying
they should be doing.
They hold those heavy metals.
So that's a really big reasonwhy they say you should have
them because they absorb heavymetals.
They can absorb six times theirweight in spores, viruses,
bacteria and heavy metals.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
And so, basically, they're just multiplying Right,
that's what they do.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
That's their job.
But they're also in our bodiesbecause they're breaking things
down.
So that's why they also feellike you should have them,
because they're decomposers.
That's what they go in.
So there's something going onin your body.
That's the root cause of whyyou have them.
That's really where they'resaying you should have them.

(10:43):
But in my case it was because Ihad a lot of scar tissue from
all my surgeries.
I had endometriosis, I haveLyme, so all of those are
justified why they should be inthe body, breaking down whatever
is going on in your body.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
So let's go back.
So, basically, parasites, weconsume them, correct, but don't
we chew our food?
This is where my confusioncomes in.
Like don't we chew our food?
They're microscopic.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
What does that mean?
They're just you can't see themwith the naked eye.
So the chew your food 30 timesdoes not matter.
That's to help your digestion.
Yeah, because you're not alwaysphysically eating the worm,
like with salmon.
Right, it's a good example withthe salmon, because you can see
the worm in the salmon.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yes, I've seen a lot of people like pinpoint.
Oh, look like this is notsalmon, this is the parasite,
this is the worm.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
So if they take that out, there's still microscopic
eggs that can be in that salmon.
It's not the physical part youhave to worry about.
Yeah, that's gone.
What about cooked?
Well, I mean that one video Didyou see that one where I showed
it and it was frozen, flashfrozen, and it was wild caught,
and then they also cooked it andthey pulled it out and it was

(11:59):
still there.
They say 2-12.
That's what the CDC, saysc,says it says well the cdc says
to cook all of your stuff.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I don't trust the cdc ?

Speaker 1 (12:09):
no one does, I know, but I trust you.
What, what did you just say 175?
I say 212 because that'sboiling 212, oh, you mean like
the okay temperature, thetemperature, yeah, then they
should die, because when youboil something it's dead.
That's why you boil your water.
By the way, when, like a pipebreaks, they say boil your water
, it's dead.
That's why you boil your water.
By the way, when, like a pipebreaks, they say boil your water

(12:30):
, it's so you don't get aparasite, giardia, crypto or
Defragilis, yeah, and you know,foodborne illness, that's at the
bottom, that's a parasite, likeat the bottom of a menu where
it says foodborne illness that'sa parasite.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
What do you mean?
They say don't eat raw food atthe bottom of a menu that it
could contain a foodborneillness.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
I've never caught that because I've never
considered eating raw food.
Well, sushi, technically, Well,raw, produce raw lettuce.
Raw sushi, raw pork.
Like any of those things, rawcan produce a foodborne illness,
which is a parasite.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
So tell us exactly what fruits these parasites are
in.
Are there any that they don't?

Speaker 1 (13:08):
All of them.
All of them, yeah, especiallybecause of the sugar.
They thrive off of sugar.
That's why, when you have aparasite, you're craving sugar,
because that's really their love, they love the so you crave it
because you might have parasites, right You're craving it
specifically because they'recraving it, not because you're
craving it, Like because theycan control your mind.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
No, okay.
So tell us about that a littlebit.
How can they control our mindif they're living in our?
Well, our first brain is ourGut, our gut.
So tell us how they control.
What does that process looklike?

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Well, they're just energetic beings, so they're
going in and they're tellingthese bodies to do these things.
One thing I do talk a lot aboutis toxoplasmosis.
So let me break it down Please.
Toxoplasmosis is the catparasite and what happens is a

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mouse actually has toxo and goesand cuddles up to the cat
because toxo removes any fear.
So it removes that fear factorthat you normally have in your
body, so it's cuddling up to thecat to be eaten, because the
next stage of toxo is in thecat's gut.
So think about it the mouse hasbeen mind controlled to go and
get eaten by the cat.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Oh my gosh, Kim.
This is why they say pregnantladies yes, but all of us can
get it.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Not just pregnant ladies.
I think that their wording wasterrible.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, I remember specifically reading an article
that said if you're pregnant, donot get close to a cat litter.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, because they don't want you to give it to
your baby.
They don't want you to thenhave a baby that has a whole
bunch of problems.
Patricia Arquette actually hastoxoplasmosis and her child has
it as well.
She's a huge toxoplasmosis.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
So this is a lifetime thing.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, you can't ever get rid of it.
40 million people in the UnitedStates that just came out on at
the beginning of August.
40 million people in the UnitedStates has toxoplasmosis, not
in the world, just in the UnitedStates.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Why just here?

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Because we don't really test for it.
It's not something that's ourgo-to.
Mental health is really a hugefactor.
They actually did a study oncadavers that were like crotch
rocket riders and 100% of themcame back that had toxoplasmosis
.
Because it removes that fear,you don't have any fear when you
have toxoplasmosis.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Oh my goodness, how dangerous is it living like that
though.
Oh, it's so dangerous.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
You're like sexually promiscuous.
It removes that and then theyall have their own frequency, so
they probably sit there andtalk with each other.
You're like looking at me allshocked.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, it's shocking it is shocking and earlier we
were just talking about thisconscious piece that this is so
important for people to be awareof and understand.
This is your health, um, do youagree that during the past 10
years, there has been such ahuge health decline?
Yeah, in human beings, and justUSA specifically?

(16:04):
I mean, we are known as themost unhealthiest country in
reference to like obesity andother things, but do you agree
that we are a very unhealthycountry.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Oh yeah, I think we're one of the top
unhealthiest countries.
To be honest, what is your?

Speaker 2 (16:20):
perspective Like what are we doing wrong other than
contaminated water and foods?
Like what other things are?
What are your perspective?
Like?
What are we doing wrong otherthan contaminated water and
foods?
Like what other things are?
What are you discovering?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
We don't cleanse our bodies Like we're not going in
and being like, oh so there'sheavy metals there's, you know,
you get an overgrowth of candida.
That's just yeast, it'sovergrowing.
We're not taught that you gotto calm that yeast down.
That yeast, that overgrowth,can cause skin issues.
It can cause a lot of healthissues.

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We're not taught to do thesethings.
In a society we rely all on ourdoctors.
We will not take the initiativeto do this ourselves, and when
you have someone that's takingthat initiative, we call them
grifters and like they're tryingto scam us.
You know that's really whereour society has run to, when
really it's like, grab yourselfsome cilantro and eat a bunch of

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cilantro because you're goingto help remove those heavy
metals.
So there's really a lot ofreasoning behind why food is
really like the best way to helpyour bodies.
I think we just got away fromthat over the last 10 years.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
And I'm guilty of it, like I'm totally guilty of it.
I come from Western medicine.
I believe everything.
You know, I don't believeeverything, but I believed in
what I was doing.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
I believed in what I was doing.
I was confident that I wasmaking a difference in what I
was doing.
What changed?
I got so sick the illnesses.
Yeah, I got really sick.
So in 2015, I got really sickand my health really declined
more, and then in 2019, myhealth was at the worst.
I was basically bedridden andmy husband had to quit his job.

(18:03):
We were a one-income householdat the time.
I used to run colleges, and Iwent from running colleges to
not being able to function, andso I couldn't make the bed, I
couldn't cook for us, I couldn'tclean for us anymore, and so we
ended up selling our whole lifeand moving out to our property
and building our own log home.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
You know what's unfortunate?
That something really drastichas to happen to us for us to
understand that we need to startreally looking out for our
health, and that's sounfortunate, like I genuinely
want everybody to follow you,your guide.
I think that your cleanse.
So talk about your cleansesystem, because I think it's

(18:42):
phenomenal.
Yes, purify, I've done it and Ihad my son do it.
We did the parasite and theheavy metal cleanse and I can't
tell you it's not easy.
I have to be honest and I wantto be very transparent about my
experience.
It's not easy, I think.
Definitely when your body isgoing through that withdrawal, I
would call it it is it is, itreally is.

(19:05):
So I think the day 14 or 15 wasreally hard for me, but then I
think it gets well.
I feel that it gets better andbetter and better and then wow,
like you can actually think andfocus.
I also believe like a littlebit of that ADHD symptoms.
It just diminishes completelybecause that brain fog goes away

(19:28):
.
You're not as stressed anymore,You're able to function and I
feel lighter.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
So I think it's phenomenal I always feel lighter
.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, you do feel lighter actually.
That's one of the wonderfulthings that I loved about your
cleanse.
How did you discover this?
Tell?

Speaker 1 (19:43):
us about this.
Well, I had a lot of downloadsfor my higher self.
It helped a lot too.
I know that sounds pretty wild,but when I was in the thick of
it, really trying to heal myself, I lived in the woods and we
grew mushrooms so that I couldprotect my brain.
That really is ultimately, whatwe ended up doing was protecting

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my brain.
But I would look around and I'dbe like, what is like the usnea
?
Like there's usnea coming fromthe trees, like hanging from the
trees.
What does that do?
Like what is that for?
And then I looked around andthere was Oregon grapefruit,
which is an antiparasitic.
I'm like, well, what does thisdo?
And so I just kind of startedto really hone in on Mother
Nature and figure out differentways for me to heal my body,

(20:28):
because the syntheticmedications were not working for
me and I needed to get off ofeverything.
I needed to just reset my bodyand figure something out.
And if I need to do that, howmany other people really needed
to do that?
So then I just really startedlooking into herbs.
So then I just really startedlooking into herbs and after I
did my first cleanse and Ilooked at all the herbs that
were in there, I ended up going,okay, well, I don't just like

(20:51):
wormwood.
I like wormwood with Oregongrapefruit.
I like usnea.
Usnea helps with bacteria andviruses.
It also helps suppress yourappetite.
So while you're deworming, theyare wanting to be fed so they
can stay alive.
Well, I don't want that.
My first cleanse, I was eatingburgers and ice cream and I

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don't even eat that kind of foodanymore and I was craving it.
I wasn't craving it.
They were craving it becausethey need energy in order to
stay alive and I need to get ridof them.
So I picked herbs that would dothat.
So Oregon grape root helpssuppress your appetite and
inflammation.
You got Oosnia that helps curveyour appetite so that you're
not hungry while you'recleansing.

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You have intestinal parasites,you have physical, like.
I mean, you got to find all theailments and then you got to
find the herb that's going tohelp that ailment, and so I just
picked a symphony of herbs inorder for all of the ailments to
reach that frequency.
So I always say that whenyou're like in an opera and the

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opera singer sings and breaksthat glass, her voice got to
that frequency, so the glassshattered.
If you can find the samefrequency of the ailment, you
can do the same thing with anherb, and that's what I did.
I just really wanted it to be afull body, not just oh well,
parasites, that's it.
I needed it to be heavy metalstoo, because you're dropping the
metals while you're deworming,so how do you sweep those metals

(22:19):
out.
So then you don't have to doanother heavy metal detox.
It's all there.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Would you say that you've completely healed
yourself with these herbs?
Yeah, was it hard.
Did it take a while?

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
And I think I love that.
First of all, I'm so happy thatyou did that.
I congratulate you, becauseit's not easy.
This was hard.
It is hard, kim, and I thinkpeople always are searching for
instant gratification.
Right, that's why we turn tomedicine, because it just makes
us feel good in a couple ofhours.
But holistic medicine ortraditional medicine holistic, I
think has been around for about100 years, right?

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Where we're at now.
Western Western has been around100 years.
Yeah, what we're doing now hasbeen around for thousands of
years, so it's traditional.
Yeah, traditional medicine isold, it's Eastern Eastern
medicine, so Eastern and WesternWestern medicine has been
around since 1924.
Yes, that's when Rockefellertook over and made all of the
herb DNA structure synthetic sothat they could pump them out

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and put them in our bodies.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, yeah, and I think that that Eastern portion
of it people are not reallyready to take that on because we
are so used to having it hereand now, immediately.
I can't take this pain and itis.
It's a long road, it is.
So thank you for sharing thatand I genuinely I am so happy
that you did that, becausepeople follow other people's

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stories, other people's stories.
I personally do not believe inmedical doctors anymore because
there's just so much there thatI don't really want to get into
because it'll take over.
It's your show today but I don'tand when I see a person
genuinely share their holisticor their traditional approach, I
get happy to hear that.

(24:01):
Do you?
Do you have all the herbsmemorized in In our teachers?
Oh yeah, can we briefly go overall of them?
I didn't bring the, I totally Imean just thought just came up,
but I want to kind of go overall the herbs and what they do
exactly.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, I want to go back to the Western medicine,
please.
I believe we need it, I believeto save our lives we need
Western medicine.
I do not believe that youshould rely on Western medicine
if you are wanting to healyourself.
But if there is a car accidentor a heart attack, I mean, I've
had to have emergency surgeries.
I believe that it's here for areason.

(24:40):
I just believe we need to havemore of bridging between
traditional and Western, and ina lot of cases they say Eastern
and Western.
But, really it's more of atraditional, because you're
bringing in holistic remedieslike red light castor oil.
Yes, castor oil comes fromEastern, but the way that we're
utilizing it in the life that welive now, it's more a
traditional type of medicinethat we're looking at.

(25:02):
So I don't believe Westernmedicine should go completely
away, but I believe our mindsetsfrom the indoctrination that
we've had specifically aboutWestern medicine, that needs to
change as a society.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, you know why I'm saying that?
Because of that information.
Yeah totally Like I getdiscouraged.
So but if the information isthere that you know doctors
provide, not just shove medicinedown your throat and send you
off to chemo and this and that,then maybe somebody like me
would have place to have alittle bit of respect, for sure
you know, but you just get sosick and tired and discouraged.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
You're a gaslit.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
You're a gaslit and all you have to say is negative
things.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
And we're taught that the medications is what the
ailment is.
That's how we're taught inclassical, traditional medical
Until we wake up, right.
And then, as soon as you wakeup, then you can utilize that to
your benefit.
You can turn and look like Idid oh well, that's all they did
.
That's all they did was look atoh, this medicine is going to

(26:03):
help this ailment.
That's all I did with herbs,and our bodies can synthesize
the herbs.
We can't do that with thesynthetic medications.
Our bodies are being reallyjust bogged down with everything
and not only hurting other.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
I mean think about all the side effects of
synthetic medicine it does onething, but it hurts another
Right.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
You're like oh so I got rid of the headache, yet my
stomach is.
I've got ulcers now.
So now I got to take some,because that's what they do.
They're like oh, here's thenext thing, here's your next
thing.
So it really is ourresponsibility, though, to be
our own patient advocate yes, tobe our own patient advocate.
And that's what I push.
I've always pushed for that mywhole life and I probably have

(26:50):
lost a lot of doctors in my ownpersonal life as well as my
professional life.
Because I'm like you, got tostep up and I am my own advocate
.
I fight for myself every singlechance I get when it comes into
the doctor, because I'm the onethat has to lay down at night
thinking of all of the thingsand how would I treat this body
and what did I do for my body?

Speaker 2 (27:05):
So really, it is a responsibility of you as a human
being to do that I agree withyou.
This is why I have people likeyou on the show, so that people
can literally wake up and takecharge of their life.
I think a lot of people are ranby fear and not knowledge, and
the belief in themselves or thebelief in food.
The belief in herbs Like.
Or the belief in food Mm-hmm.
The belief in herbs Like.

(27:26):
Look at Mother Nature.
Look at all these amazing.
She's amazing.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
She is wonderful, right, she's amazing.
You know that she can respondwith an herb of what you need, a
plant by your DNA cells.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
You can go outside and she'll know what you, what
you need as a whole that's.
That's what grounding is forshe's, but don't ground where
your pets are, oh don't die tomace assert if you just put a
little square and you, just youknow that's your grounding area.
Just don't let a dog, your dogor any other animal I mean it's
difficult to not know if a deerlike we lived in the woods.

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So it's deer coming, you know.
You just got to beconscientious.
You got to ground, you do.
You have to do all the things,but there are a lot more
modalities in life now that youcan.
You don't have to go out andground, but it's a great way to
connect.
There's grounding shoesactually, have you heard of
those?

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, probably so you don't have to go out in the
woods barefoot by yourselfanymore.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
That's nice, I know I'll send it to you.
It's actually phenomenal.
But all right, let's go back tothe ingredients.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Tell me the ingredients.
I'm so fascinated to hear aboutthese Mother Nature beautiful
herbs that you've discovered.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Okay, so Parify is the main parasite cleanse.
There's three tinctures, soParify is the main cleanse.
It has wormwood, black walnuthole, hawthorn berry, which is
good for tapeworms.
Actually, a lot of people havetapeworms and don't even know it
.
So if you do, you should do alot of hawthorn berry, clove and
garlic.
And so we soak our herbs forfive to eight weeks and then we

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process our own tinctures.
We have our own manufacturingfacility.
It's 10,000 square feet inJonesboro, arkansas, so we do
our own products.
We're third party tested.
We really take a lot of.
This is very serious.
We take a lot of pride in whatwe're doing.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
You should.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, it's awesome, like I think what we're doing is
just super cool.
It is so that's Parify, andthen Sustain, which is my
favorite tincture.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yes, that helped me a lot.
Oh, it's so good.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
It helped me a lot because I was feeling a little
off, but it was it kept me atbalance.
So, yeah, I liked it.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
So what's in that?

Speaker 1 (29:38):
one Oregon grapefruit , Usnea, which is foraged, and
then peppermint.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Usnea.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Usnea what is that for?
It's old man's beard.
So when you're going into, likethe forest or rainforest, and
you see all that coolness comingfrom the trees, that's usnea
and that helps go in and sweepout bad bacteria, viruses that
they're holding onto.
So you can do one.
You could do just Parafy, butunfortunately the parasites are

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gonna be dropping viruses, heavymetals, which is why we did
Metal Flush, which is our thirdtincture that's in the Parify
kit.
We did all of that specificallybecause you've got to come in
and sweep that out immediatelyor your body's going to absorb
it and you're going to run intomore problems.
It also helps with candida.
It breaks the candida down.
So Par Parafy is your parasitecleanse, Sustain is your candida

(30:25):
cleanse and then Metal Flush isyour heavy metal cleanse.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
It tastes horrible.
Which one Parafy it's spicy, oh, you don't like Metal Flush?
No, oh, that's the cilantro.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Do you eat cilantro?

Speaker 2 (30:38):
I love it, but… you do So-and-so so that one has… In
salads, yes, by itself, no, no.
What does it taste like to you?
It was very bitter.
Does it taste soapy and bitter?

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, Really, metal Flesh was bitter.
That's our sweetest one.
No way, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Something's off then.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
I'm like.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
I wonder what it's in there for you not to like it,
because it just has dandelion.
But I drink it with cinnamonsugar cubes, so maybe that's why
.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Maybe, but who cares?
It helps it works.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
That's the most important thing.
Okay, so that helps with theheavy metals.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Right.
So metal flush, metal flush.
It also helps with liversupport, so metal flush is
really a very big supporttincture.
Not only are we helping targetheavy metals, but we're also
willow bark, which is in there,helps with pain, so it sometimes
can be very painful.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
I had muscle aches.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, so you can actually increase metal flush
you can increase the stain aswell to three times a day,
because they're tinctures andit's really tailored to what's
best fitting for you.
It's not just so pill-based,right.
Metal flush is really greatbecause it helps release those
metals, which then releases theparasites, so you can actually

(31:58):
have a much better cleanse andhave better results.
When we added that in peoplesaw double the worms than they
did before, oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, how many worms does an average person have in
their body?

Speaker 1 (32:12):
You can have up to like 300 or 400 that they know
about.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
But there's thousands of them.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
There's thousands Are there ones that we haven't
discovered yet.
I think so.
I think so.
They say there is.
Did you hear about that ladythat had a worm in her brain in
2021?
She ate a piece of lettuce thata snake went over.
It was in Australia.
Did you see that?
Well, they say that was thefirst of a kind, but to me it

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just looked like a round worm inher brain.
They actually opened her brain.
They thought she had the C word.
They opened her brain thatthought she had the C word.
They opened her brain.
She thought had a.
What the C word?
You know the word ends in an R.
They opened up her brain andwhen they got in there, it was
like this tumor and it all of asudden, a live worm came out.
It freaked the neurosurgeon out.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
This is real stuff, Kim.
It's real.
It's real.
It just feels gnarly Likesci-fi.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
I live it every day.
I'm like how is this possible,how is this all possible?
Like, how is some video?

Speaker 2 (33:13):
from TikTok.
Did she not chew that lettuce?
How the hell did it get intothe brain?

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Because they're microscopic eggs.
Oh, so the egg, okay, yeah,yeah, so then it migrates into
your lymphatic system, whichthen can migrate into your
spinal fluid, which then canjust like MS.
That's where a lot of thosespikes come from.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
The body spikes.
Yeah, in the spinal area.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, it's because they could potentially be moving
and then actually reforming inthe spine.
They're like making homes, ohmy.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Lord yeah.
So what did that ladyexperience with the warm in her
brain?
She?

Speaker 1 (33:48):
just experienced headaches.
She had a change in personalityterrible brain fog, constant
headaches, Like she started tolose some vision in one of her
eyes.
So that's what brought her tothe neurologist.
She had a lot of abdominalissues.
How did they find it?
They went in and they weregoing to remove a tumor that
they thought was the C.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Do you feel like the tumor was created by the
parasite?
Oh, it was the parasite.
It was the parasite.
So the tumor was the parasite.
Yeah, they thought it was likea tumor tumor, yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
They thought it was a tumor so they were going in to
remove it.
My Lord, and it popped out andscared the neurosurgeon.
She pulled out the worm stuckit in and we have?
I have like videos and pictures.
Yeah, where do you get thesestories?
People, they love sending themto me.
They love it.
They love every day.

(34:37):
I have something new Every day.
I literally have like tens ofthousands of things on my phone.
I just can't get to Pictures,articles, studies.
I like to read a lot, I cantell.
Yeah, I like to research.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
You are definitely a scholar.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah, I can tell I had two valedictorian degrees.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Well, they come in handy.
They come in handy right.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah, I have an associates in medical
specialties and a bachelor's inhealthcare management, and then
I'm only in medical specialtiesand a bachelor's in healthcare
management, and then I'm only afew classes away from my
master's In Whatever I wouldlike.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Healthcare somehow Good for you.
Then I got really sick.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
I actually just graduated from college when my
health really started decliningin 14, 15.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
I just wish that more people my goodness are, because
, look, it's when you talk aboutthese things like a warm in
someone's brain, it just soundslike a movie.
It's very sci fi.
It just it's.
It's like you can't reallyconnect, right, but these things
are really out there Likeparasites, actually live in our
bodies, and the worst part isthat they live in the bodies of

(35:44):
our little children.
Yes, yeah, that's why you saythat it is safe for children
three and up, correct?
So tell me a little bit aboutthis, though.
Why only once a day for kidsand three times a day for us?

Speaker 1 (35:57):
That's just a recommendation.
You can do three times a day.
Okay, you can do one to threetimes a day.
That's why we put one to three,so we want you to tailor it to
their behavior, to their bodies.
We didn't want to come in andtell you what to do, because
some kids can't take it threetimes a day.
Some kids can champ it downthree times a day.

(36:17):
So, ages three to 10, we'rereally conscientious to have you
just do it one to three times aday.
15 drops, but you could do fivedrops.
You know it's tincture, so it'sreally great to be able to mix
and match and do what best fitsyou.
After the age of 10, they'remore responsive and they can
tell you more of what's going on.
And so then we say just go tothe adult.

(36:38):
There really is no change.
After 10 years old they shouldjust be doing it three times a
day.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Tell us a little bit about the side effects of.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Parafi.
I mean die-offs are terribleHeadaches, flu-like symptoms,
Body aches were horrible Bodyaches.
You're going to have a lot ofjoint pain because they're in
our joints.
The parasites are.
Yeah, they're in our jointsInflammation.
I mean it's really it's aparasite cleanse, but it's doing
more to you.
It's helping rinse out yourliver, which is super, super

(37:09):
toxic.
Nowadays Our livers are verytoxic.
It's the last place.
It's really like our sewersystem organ.
You know it's going in and it'strying to clean everything out
and get rid of things and movethings and there's, it's just
really taxed on a daily andheavy metals sit in there,
flukes sit in there, going inand out of the liver, creating

(37:29):
almost like scars or adhesionsissues in our livers.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Wow, so basically the die-offs?
Is that what it was called?
The die-offs are there becausethe parasites and the metals are
leaving your body.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
And that's why you're noticing those heavy symptoms.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
They're peeing and pooping and our body doesn't
know what to do.
So if you are deworming and youget a huge ammonia taste in
your mouth, more than likelyit's because you just had a worm
just pee.
But they're also releasingtheir eggs so that there's
another generation.
And that's why we say waitseven days between the cleanses,
because that's about a cycle ofany worm.
Seven to 21 days is a wormcycle.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
So if you're doing back-to-backs, you'll do 30 days
, you wait seven days and thenyou start again, because that
point in time they've releasedthose eggs off and you're trying
to then come in and clean thoseeggs so that you can remove
that generational cycle oftheirs.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
What are some of the symptoms?
So the people that are watchingright now and they're like,
okay, I'm considering Parify,you know like I want to, but I
don't have any symptoms, whatdoes that look like?
I mean like, what are thesymptoms and does everybody need
to do this?

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Oh, everyone should be doing it three to four times
a year.
Other countries cleanse with apill, so they deworm at least
twice a year, and othercountries do it in a very cool
way, from what I've researched,what do you mean by that?
So, like in Jamaica, they use atea called the bush and the
whole family does it, fromgeneration to generation.
They do that and you'reactually kind of frowned upon if

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you don't do it.
Oh really, it's called the bush?

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Is it just one herb?

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, it's C-E-R-A-S-S.
That's the name of it.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
C-E-R-A-S-S.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Okay, I think that's how you pronounce it, and it's
just one herb, it's just yep,it's just one herb called the
bush and they drink a tea.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
So is that in your ingredient?

Speaker 1 (39:23):
That's not part of your ingredients I just recently
found out, about a year ago.
So there's multiple things thatthey can— there are lots of
antiparasitics, yeah, that theybring in traditionally, and then
Mexico.
They just take a pill.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
In my country too.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah, they just take a pill and it's provided free in
schools and stuff.
Yeah, because they require youto do it prior to going to
school, because pinworms arelike lice like butt of the lice.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Actually, I wanted to read you the name of that.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Lice of the butt is what pinworms are.
Because anyone can get them.
Anyone can get them and you cantransfer them around to each
other.
It's not good, it's not.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
It's called hold on Okay.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Zentel, zentel, what's the?
That's the name of the brand.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
That's the name of the pill, okay, but my dad's
going back in a few days.
I told him to bring a few Smart.
Yeah, I want to read theingredients and see what it is,
because I remember I mean, Iwent up to third grade in
Armenia and I just specificallyremember, and it was during the
Soviet time, so you can imaginewhat the food was and the water

(40:30):
was oh, I'm sure I think theyall dewormed too.
Yeah, yeah and we had a lot oflice.
We had lots of, like you know,worms.
And I remember, specifically,entering the class, our English
teacher was standing therehanding out packets of these
little pills and I was like Itook it home.
I'm like Mom, what is thislittle pills?
And I was like I took it home.
I'm like mom, what is this?

(40:51):
She's like oh, it's just forparasites.
And so, by the way, you knowwhat I wanted to talk about the
crunching of the teeth, likewhat is I mean that's, that's
was confirmed to me, that's nota myth, but you tell us like
what are some of the symptoms?
Let's go back to that.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Okay, grinding of the teeth?
Yes, because your lymphaticsystem is just really.
They're in your lymphaticsystem and your body is in a
stress state.
It's constant fight or flight.
Because they keep us in thatconstant fight or flight.
The parasites do, because yourbody is trying to attack them
and it doesn't know what's goingon.
And then it's like I need to goto homeostasis, like it's

(41:22):
trying to heal you but it can'twhen these things are attacking.
Homeostasis is when it's tryingto heal you.
Yeah, it's trying to get youinto homeostasis.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
It's trying to get you there.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, that's where we're supposed to live.
We're supposed to live it, andwhen you have something
energetically coming in, it'sbringing that your vibration
down.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah, and they have their ownvibration, they do.
They have their own frequencyand they can talk to each other.
Yeah, it's toxoplasmosis.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
It's so interesting.
I heard that the seeds ofpapaya are magnetic.
You shouldn't chew the seeds ofthe papaya, but you should
swallow it whole, because it hasthis like magnifying I don't
know component in it that justgrabs the parasite and then you
can just you know.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Yeah, I'm not a big papaya seed cleanser.
Is that real though it is?
Yeah, they do that.
There's a papaya seed cleanseand then the parasites come out.
I'm nervous about that.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
I'm itchy, just thinking sorry, do you get like
this sometimes?
No, my body just starteditching.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
I just thought of a warm you're like, I just thought
of what's in my body and here Iam, it's so disgusting, it's
just weird.
It is weird, it's gnarly.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
I found I find that word very fitting.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Gnarly.
Yeah, weird Gnarly sounds waybetter than weird People are
like it is weird.
I'm like it's gnarly.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
now I'm going to start saying that it's like such
a beautiful way to describe it.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
It is, it's so, it's so gnarly.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I don't know how you and sometimes I see your facial
expressions doing the videosYou're like oh you know, because
sometimes yeah, and a lot ofthose videos I don't watch pre,
I just put them on green screenand I'm just there, so I have
like a real reaction.
Imagine seeing it dead in yourstool.
It's nuts.
I've seen it dead in my stool.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
I've seen flukes, roundworm and pinworms just
chilling in the toilet.
Flukes freak me out the most.
If I had to choose between anyof the weirdness, the flukes
make it weird to me just becausethey're all totally different
sizes.
You know what's funny to me?

Speaker 2 (43:27):
I'm like about to stall up because I'm like ooh,
People stick their head in theirstool and they actually look
they do.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
They're called diggers and we've been told we
should make a digging kit.
Gloves like chopsticks.
In the field we call them asshats.
You put them on the toiletthat's what we call them.
Like, we could like literallyprobably make a fortune just
selling you.
Gotta see it.
Yeah, people got to see it.

(43:52):
They've got to see it.
Our toilets should have thatlike.
We should be able to see it.
I think there's some countriesthat actually have toilets that
you can check out your stool.
Yeah, I am not a digger.
If it's not floating, it'sgoing I and I don't want to see
it.
I just want to flush and go.
They're actually called diggers.
Yeah, wow, yeah, there's 50-50of us.

(44:14):
Half of us dig and half of usdon't, and I just no judgment.
I love diggers because Iwouldn't have nearly as many
pictures.
They're your best customers.
Oh, they really are, becausethey straight know that stuff's
in their shit.
You know it's chewing, it'sthere.

(44:35):
They're like oh yeah, we madethe purified kit, when my
husband and I started this what?
When we made the recipe, I hadthe herbs and then he came in
and helped me decide how manyherbs would go in each soak and
he said if they want to seeworms, we're going to make them
see worms.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
You guys are going to see, oh my gosh.
And I'll tell you, though Idon't know, those diggers have
to have like a, they have tohave a strong heart to actually
be able to sit with that.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
They're dedicated.
They want to see it, they wantto know.
They're dedicated.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
They want to see it, they want to know.
They're digging yeah, I don'tknow what that seeing is going
to do to you, we love you,diggers.
Yes, I mean again they are.
They're your best customer.
They give you the best ratings?
Yeah, because they know.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Yeah, it's crazy.
I would say probably the nextwhile, the most while or the
next one is when people do gutty, because gutty removes mucoid.
I haven't done that one.
Oh, you haven't.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
No.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Yeah, gutty's wild.
Gutty is a whole nother likerealm of mucoid plaque is its
own thing.
And then it pulls out ropeworms which are like thick and
they look like a rope andthey're usually real rubbery and
they cause a lot of backproblems.
And then they don't need tohave any sex organs, they just
can keep multiplying on theirown.
Why?

Speaker 2 (45:51):
back problems and they all connect.
Wait a minute, they just likeroll, they just go.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
So a lot of people think that the parasites are
like swimming in your intestines.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
But really what they're doing is so itchy.
Oh, I'm so itchy, oh my God,I'm just going to drink my clean
water, alkaline, like get iteasy, okay.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Okay.
So what the worm is doing isthey're pressing up to be
invisible up against, like avein or intestine, because
they're in our blood or tissue.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
How long are they?

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Oh gosh, Rope worms Feet.
No way or intestine becausethey're in our blood or tissue.
How long are they?
Oh gosh, ropeworms feet, no way.
Yeah, I think it's volume twoof the ebook that has all of my
parasites in it.
Volume two is the ropewormvolume.
How do they?

Speaker 2 (46:41):
get in the body?
Oh my God, same thing.
They really don't know no way.
So this is a different type.
I really have no answer.
Yeah, I really have no answer.
This is a dangerous one.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Yeah, they don't like talking about it in the world.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
They say it's not a thing, as in….

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah, whoever they are.
Doctors, yeah, the doctors.
Kim we can say that.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
I don't know who they are, the NDs of today's world,
the doctors or you knowwhoever's in Western medicine.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Why don't they like talking about it?
What's your?

Speaker 2 (47:04):
experience, because they don't really know.
Why don't they like talkingabout it?

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Because they don't really know they can't give you
an answer.
What the hell are these medicalschools teaching them?
I mean, not this, not this.
You get like a few minutes whenI authored a few minutes of
class.
You get a few minutes of classto talk about parasites and see,
that's where the really bigissue truly is, because they
think us as society, think thatwhen you go poop in the test

(47:27):
tubes, the stool tests, they getsent and there's all these
people examining them andthere's all like these big
doctors and head honchos.
It's probably a lab tech who's19 or 20 years old.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah, most likely.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Who's been trained for two months, yeah, six months
.
I trained them me personally.
They get three minutes to lookat the stool.
If there isn't anything in thatstool that they can recognize,
it gets passed on.
And then on your lab slip itsays negative for parasites and
a nice little asterisk at thebottom that says this is not in
lieu of a parasitic infection.
But it is Right.

(48:01):
They're saying you don't have aparasite and in order for your
insurance company then to payfor an antiparasitic, that test
had to be positive or theinsurance will not pay for the
thousands of dollars anantiparasitic is.
Just go to Mexico.
There's seven bucks thereliterally.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
And this is what Dr Stewart.
He's an OBGYN.
We were talking about this.
It's like people need to wakeup and stop bowing down to their
insurance card.
It's like be your own doctorfor a minute.
Just take a footstep back andthink about how you can heal
yourself.
Don't just always go by whatyour insurance is covering and
it's not covering.
What do you think it's going totake for people to wake up and

(48:41):
understand that this is major?

Speaker 1 (48:44):
I mean, I woke up to it and I'm like, oh wow.
So when I first started myjourney in 2019, I had messaged
my doctor and I just had areally intense surgery.
It was my 13th surgery and in2020, I didn't go to the
bathroom for a month.
No way, that's what startedthis journey.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
And this was from the parasites?

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah, because there were so many Cryptosporidium
parvium which was starting toshut my organs down From the
parasites, from the parasites,so they can do that.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah, because there's so many of them, mm-hmm, your
body can't yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
I was so sick and so when I messaged my doctor, I
said listen, I've gone poop fora month.
I don't had a surgery in 2019.
I'm still in that amount ofpain and she's like take some
selenium husk.
We cannot do surgery on youagain, Kim.
You are going to just continueto create more scar tissue, and

(49:39):
I already had atomyosis, whichis a scar tissue disease, and I
had endometriosis, so they wereconnecting each other right.
She's like there's nothing leftwe can do for you.
This is it.
You cannot go under again.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Kim, would you say that you've completely healed
yourself?
Did I ask you this?
I think I did, but I think it'sgood to confirm.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Yeah, I think that, throughout these stages, each
one of these ailments that I'vehad which I've had a lot of
ailments, I'm not, you know,it's just this is what was given
to me in this lifetime in orderfor me to be able to do what
I'm doing now?

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Oh yeah, but I went to parasites.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
And then, a year later, we had mold in our travel
trailer, which now I know.
I actually had multipledifferent molds in my body, not
just from our travel trailer.
So I have 11 different molds inmy body that range all the way
from when I was born.
Now, yeah, so my mom hadsarcoidosis, which is a
deteriorating tissue disease,which I now know is from mold,

(50:34):
and I also think my mom has Lymeshe doesn't think she has Lyme,
but so you inherited that?
Yes, they get passed down togeneration to generation in the
womb.
You can pass mold, you can passLyme and you can pass parasites
to your baby in the womb.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Let me ask you a really off topic question, but
then we're going to dive intohow we can wash our foods and
fruits and veggies, becausethat's important.
Do you think that vaccinationscan cause this as well?

Speaker 1 (51:02):
I think heavy metals in it can weight it down.
I believe that there's.
I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but Ido believe that there are.
I had to get a lot I'm going tosay upwards of 50 vaccines.
I've had 50 vaccines in my bodybecause I'm in the medical
field and I was.
My dad was military and that'syou know, yeah, yeah, mandatory

(51:23):
yeah yeah, my dad was a colonelin nuclear missiles.
That's what my dad did.
So, yeah, wow, yeah, that'swhat my dad did.
So, yeah, wow, yeah.
That's why I'm so structured,that's why I went into medical.
That's Because it's astructured world.
It is yeah, I come from thatworld Very routine-oriented and
structured.
Like he was a.
What he did for a living was.
I don't know how he did that.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Really.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
It was wild.
How was it growing?

Speaker 2 (51:47):
up with a dad like that.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Oh my God, it was wild.
I was very alternative.
I always was the black sheep.
I was rebellious, always wore,converse, just really like.
I was always very in tune withmyself when it came to like my
emotions.
It was fun, do you think, wasit?
It was fun for me, not fun forthem yeah, I was gonna say you.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
You said you were rebellious.
Do you think that you wererebellious because it was a lot
for you to handle?

Speaker 1 (52:16):
oh yeah, I was, I can imagine, early in life.
Really, yeah, I always thoughtthat a lot of this was a bunch
of bull, like how did like?
A lot of things were a bunch ofbull, but what?

Speaker 2 (52:27):
particularly do you think stands out most that
you're like ah, that'sridiculous.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Why there's so many controlling things of your human
body.
Really Like all the differentavenues.
Medicine's very controlling,Like the military to me.
I get it, but it's controlling.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
It is.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Yeah, so just rebellious in that way, yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Thank you for sharing that.
Yeah, yeah, so just rebelliousin that way.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Yeah, thank you for sharing that.
Yeah, yeah, he's cool.
My dad is very cool.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Yeah, yeah, I bet I mean it's still.
My dad was in the army too, theRussian army.
Yeah, and during the Soviettime went to war so so I can
kind of like relate.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Yeah, it's a different life right.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
I would say that it's pretty traumatizing in a way.
Yeah, it's very culty.
Yeah, I mean it is.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
You have to be this way, and my mom and my sister
and my dad are still very muchthis way and that's great.
That works for them.
It works for them, I was not,and so it was like the three of
them and then me, you know.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
So that's why you felt like you were the black
sheep of a family.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Yeah, like little punk rock kid.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
I was a little hippie kid Like yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
I just I tried to color my hair.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
They didn't like that because you know you had to go
in pictures and stuff and Ialways but God already had
something planned for you fromsuch an early age, like look at
that you were a very holisticperson like doing your own thing
from such a young age.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Mushrooms, mushrooms.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
What's your favorite?

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Favorite.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
From the mushroom world.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
I like Amanita.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Yeah, why.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
She just helps calm your nervous system down.
She doesn't make you havevisions.
It's not like psilocybin, it'snot psychedelic it just helps go
in and calm.
They actually structuredbenzodiazepine around Amanita?

Speaker 2 (54:11):
No way yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
So Amanita's DNA structure is the same, but one
little molecule different withbenzodiazepine.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
That's phenomenal.
You know, I hear that lion'smane is pretty popular.
Lion's mane is great.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Lion's mane should be taken with turkey tail.
Those two should be togetherbecause lion's mane goes in and
helps actually heal the brainwith the missing neurons.
So bad habits are just a neuronmisfiring and that goes in and
heals them and while it's doingthat any sort of scarring that
could happen, the turkey tailcomes in and cleans up that
scarring.
With the lion's mane they worktogether.

(54:45):
And then cordyceps and reishishould be taken together because
cordyceps goes in and helps thebone while calming the nervous
system down.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
So there's not one mushroom that can be taken
itself, you think?

Speaker 1 (54:56):
No, I think you should take an accumulation of
them.
They all work together, and ifyou're ever doing any, you
should take as many as possiblebecause they love each other and
then a supplement level isaround one gram of mushroom.
But if you're wanting to go to atherapeutic level, you take
five grams of mushroom.
So if you're on like you knowtreatments, so chemo, you want

(55:19):
to take turkey tail because it'sgoing to help your body break
down tumors.
If you have dementia or youhave brain issues, you should
take lion's mane with TurkeyTail because you're going to
help keep your brain healthywhile it's breaking other things
down and helping with thoseneurons.
When I worked in neurologybecause that was one of my
specialties was neurology we hada lot of Alzheimer's and

(55:41):
Parkinson's and dementiapatients take Lion's Mane at
five grams.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
It's phenomenal.
It helps with focus too.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Yeah, it does, because it's rewiring your brain
.
It's one of the few that gothrough and break through the
GABA of your brain, so that'sright, it goes through the blood
barrier.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
So there you go.
It's the people take GABA.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Yeah, but that it provides it doesn't it Lion's
mane, and you can grow ityourself.
It's super easy.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it doesn't have a taste to it.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
I make it with omelet .

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Oh you do.
Yeah, it's very like a squishyjelly.
I don't know, but I eat it forhealth purposes, obviously.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Well, you look healthy, so it's good.
So do you.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Oh, thanks to your cleanse.
It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
I love talking about mushrooms.
I can talk about them all day.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
They're my favorites.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
What got me here?
Because I used to takemushrooms and sit and meditate
six to eight hours a day forabout six months.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
What do you think about those psychedelic
mushrooms?
Oh, I think they're fabulous.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
I think that when you need to have a full body reset
and you really need to go inward, you need to figure out what is
going on with you.
It's the best thing you can dofor your body.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
What mushrooms can people take to help guide them
with that process?

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Psilocybin.
So there's levels of differentstyles.
My profile.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Don't say Mexico.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
My profile, your profile.
His name is Denver Mycology andI also have Ely, so there's two
in there.
I've used them both because myhusband and I used to grow, but
when we started Roger's Hood wehad to stop growing because it's
almost a full-time job, andthen we had to kind of pivot too
and finish our long home.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Isn't it dangerous, though?
I mean, you've got to reallyknow about mushrooms, because
some of them can kill you.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
I don't know what, just one what.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Just one.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Which one Death cap?

Speaker 2 (57:15):
You'll eat it once and that's it.
I remember when I was growingup in my country, which is
Armenia again, I had so many ofmy relatives that go up and get
mushrooms from the mountains andstuff, but I would be so scared
to try them because you justnever know.
Like I think that being it's adifferent world.
And there's this guy I followactually Host Defense, I think,

(57:35):
is his lion's mane, Forgot hisname.
He's with Paul Stammen.
Yes, he's like the godfather.
He is the godfather, but theydon't call them mushrooms, he
calls them fungi, fungi.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Fascinated by fungi.
I call them mushies becausemushrooms get my TikTok account
shadowed Because before Istarted on the journey of Worm
Queen, I actually had 10,000followers teaching them how to
grow mushrooms and build a loghome.
I was a homestead.
That's where I was on.

(58:07):
Tiktok was homestead side, so Iwould teach people about all
sorts of mushrooms.
How did?

Speaker 2 (58:11):
you get into that.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
I needed to heal my body.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
So it goes back to the healing.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Yeah, yeah.
My husband quit building ourlog home.
He took a break in order tolearn how to grow mushrooms.
So people like Fresh Cap Tonyfrom Fresh Cap taught my husband
how to actually grow mushroomsfrom YouTube.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
From what I've learned and what I've read about
mushrooms, they can beextremely healing.
They are.
Like save lives, cancers,tumors.
It saved my life.
It saved my life.
They saved my life, so not onlylike cleansing and herbs, but
also mushrooms.
Mushrooms saved my life.
Yeah, that's why.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
I'm so like.
That's why we wear it like abadge of honor.
We just love to pay homage tothem.
They're just here to help usand to connect us.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Yeah, oh, my gosh.
If people are just more awareof how healing it would be like,
I think that it would literallycure the world from so many
things.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
They're that strong.
They're that strong.
And if you do things liketaking mind-altering magic
mushrooms and you take them inconjunction with the other
mushrooms, they all tell eachother what to do.
It's like they're their ownnetwork, the mycelium network
underground.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Some people would understand that as drugs.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Yeah, I mean, if you want to call them drugs, if you
want to call them drugs, whatyou want to call them drugs,
what is your intention withthose drugs?
Right, are you taking just alittle to heal your brain?
Because it can go in andactually, like regenerate
neurons that are damaged, it cango in and help heal them.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
So it's not only like a hallucinogen Right, it also
heals neurons and— yeah Wow.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
It has a purpose.
It also heals neurons.
Yeah, it has a purpose.
It has a purpose.
But we've been so indoctrinatedabout mushrooms.
We've been told that they'rebad for us and we shouldn't do
this.
Well, you got to cook them Wellbecause everybody takes
advantage of them.
Kim.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
I don't think it's the mushroom itself.
I think people don't know howto utilize it properly.
They go and get high off of itand go and spread stupid crap
all over the world and peopleare like oh okay, yeah, this is
bad, but if it's healing, Idon't think not a lot of people
know that it's healing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
They don't know it and they should.
They should sit down and justbe like all right.
What else can I do to my bodyto help move this healing
journey along?
What about ayahuasca?
I've never done ayahuasca.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Everyone's raving about it.
I've had some opportunity to doit.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
I personally don't know if I want to sit around in
a group.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
I mean you have to do it with a person who's
experienced.
It's like the whole point forconnecting.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Have you done ayahuasca?
Never.
Are you going to do ayahuasca?
Probably never.
Do you ever do any sort ofmagic mushrooms?

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
No, I've never, you never have.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
I never have.
Oh, friend, next time we'rehere.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Bring me some drugs.
Wait until my parents hear this.
Kim, who's that lady?
I love you, you're so funny,but yeah, I've never tried.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
We'll talk of one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
And listen.
This is what I'm scared of.
I think that a lot of peopletake it for healing purposes
yeah, but also there's so manytherapists saying that it's like
a narcissistic approach ofhealing, oh really.
Because it's like this fasterway of healing versus actually
doing the work of healing, whichis I don't know.

(01:01:26):
I think it forces you to do thework it does.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
A hundred percent.
It forces you to do the work.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Talk about that.
What do you mean by that?

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
I wouldn't be here if I hadn't done all that work.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
So you were conscious to healing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
I literally took mushrooms every day for six
months and I sat for six toeight hours and I meditated and
I went in.
You are kidding me?
No, I have goosebumps becauseno, goosebumps because no way I
did it first.
I like goosebumps on my show.
Every day I took mushrooms, notjust lion's mane.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Turkey tail, reishi, cordyceps mayataki, you took the
funny ones.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
I took magic mushrooms every day for six
months.
Stop yeah.
I also combined it with amanitaso I would do sometimes in the
morning, I would do my amanitabecause I was getting off of my
benzodiazepine Klonopin after 22years of being on it, four
milligrams a day, 22 years I hadsuch terrible PTSD.
Yeah, terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Who was the psychiatrist that gave that to
you for 22 years?
They?

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
just pass it along Each doctor.
I would go they'd just writethat script still, and then I
would try and go away from itand it was so uncomfortable and
I would get withdrawals ohthey're horrible.
And then I would just be like,well, I can't do that, like what
else can I do?
So that's when I startedlooking at alternative medicine
in order for me and I don'treally like the word alternative

(01:02:43):
medicine, but it really is,yeah, for me personally.
I needed to find a way, andsometimes magic mushrooms make
you go to the bathroom.
So I was like, well, hey, ifI'm not going to the bathroom
right now and I take thesemushrooms, I'm going to go to
the bathroom and then I'm goingto work on my mind at the same
time.
I didn't take them as a kidthat way.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
But, kim, how did you sit with those feelings.
It was very tough For sixmonths.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
I was going through a lot.
I had no contact with my family, so I was working on that.
My health was terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Do you think that those that emotional distress
can cause health dilemmas aswell?

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
I feel like so.
After I had no contact forseven years with my parents, in
Christmas this last year Iactually went to their house.
I showed up at their house onChristmas Eve with a card and
See's candy and we've talkedevery day since.
Yeah, and my health did anotherspike in assist like better

(01:03:40):
around March of this year and Ifound out I had Lyme on the 26th
Of March.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Of December.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
December.
So the 24th I saw them.
The 26th of December I foundout I had chronic Lyme, and then
my health wasn't the greatest.
This last, like the end of lastyear, in the beginning of this
year, I was really strugglingwith a lot of like mental health
things and a few physicalailments, Like my hair wasn't
really getting thicker andgrowing back from the mold, and

(01:04:08):
so I started to go back in andfigure out in my mind what was
going on.
And I know it was because mynervous system was so shot from
doing all these things.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Compromised yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Yeah, so I do believe the nervous system is really
like your first way that youneed to really focus on anything
.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Yeah, and honestly it is, and also for a long time
people could be living in likethis freeze or flight or like a
fawn mode and not really beaware.
But what I love hearing you sayis that mushrooms kind of woke
you up into that fight modewhere you really woke up and
said I really need to takecharge of my life, like what am

(01:04:47):
I doing?

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
It did a hundred percent.
I was very fortunate that myhusband was like I'm just going
to build this log home and I'mgoing to let you sit in the yard
every day, if you need to, andmeditate and really just get
after it and yeah, so six months, six months.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
It took you six months to kind of be like, okay,
this is what I need to do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Yep Six months.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
And look at what you've created.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
I know it's been wild .

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
This is a wild journey.
I never thought I wouldDifficult too, I'm sure, right,
yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
And we have 30 employees.
So like you don't get to havelike a bad day, right, you don't
get to be like this one's sostressful in life, you don't get
to do that you have to likestay focused and you're doing
all of the things and I'm justkind of rolling with it all.
I don't really have like a plan.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
You are such an amazing person.
I mean like going through alsothe things that you've went
through.
You're so kind and you stillsmile and you're funny, you're
hella funny, you crack jokes.
I mean like, look, when I meetpeople all the time, and when I
meet someone that like not suchan easy lifestyle I always think
like wow, like how courageousthis person is, that she's still

(01:05:57):
able to heal other people fromthis experience.
It's like you don't want peopleto go through what you went
through, right?

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
And definitely I don't want them to be alone,
because when you're chronicallyill, you are alone.
You are Every day.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
There's no sympathy or anything and you don't have
anyone to know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Yeah, it's hard to find a community.
You don't understand who totalk with because you don't
think they understand.
And so when you get communityand that was my biggest thing I
had 10,000 strong when I wasbuilding my log home and doing
mushrooms.
This community was just reallyhelping and guide me.
And then when I went viral onTikTok in July of 21, I learned

(01:06:36):
all of this really from mycommunity that they were alone.
Yeah that they were alone, andthis information and just really
developing and honing in on howI could help my community,
which were all self-healers andchronically ill.
So I say chronically healingnow because I don't want to say
I'm chronically ill, I'mchronically healing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Yeah, change that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Yeah, because your words have power.
So I'm not ill.
Mother nature listens, she does.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
You're not.
You're doing such a phenomenaljob and you're serving your
purpose.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
I am, I'm so happy Before we go.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Can you tell us how we can properly wash our fruits,
our meats, cook all that stuff?
Because I want to know what I'mdoing, because sometimes I'll
be so hungry and I'll just graba strawberry and just eat it.
Yes, I'm guilty of that.
I am guilty.
Strawberries are the worst Iknow.
They've got a lot of like nastyworms in those little things.
I've actually had a wash daywith vinegar, and I've had a few

(01:07:32):
from Trader Joe's pop out, andthey were organic too.
So, okay, tell us, okay, whatare we doing?

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Two cups of vinegar, a half of a lime, two
tablespoons of sea salt and onegallon of distilled or filtered
water.
It has to be distilled orfiltered, okay.
Why Do not use tap water?

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
because you're just recontaminating your produce, oh
, of course with chlorine andall that stuff.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
And parasites are notorious in the water.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Or filtered water, right, or filtered water?
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
And you let it soak five to ten minutes, okay, and
then I've taken it a stepfurther ozone machine.
It's about this big?

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Is it on Amazon?
Nope, it's through Thurasage.
Just go to thurasagecom.
Okay, I'll get the link andI'll link it for everybody.
Yeah, it's in my profile, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Thurasage is the best .
It's like a hundred bucks.
It's an ozone machine, so itpumps ozone gas With bubbles
that up?
Yeah, I've seen those.
So then okay.
So you soak your produce, yourinse your produce, you like
tube and it's got like thislittle rock on the end of it.
So it's pushing the ozone intothe water, creating that to be

(01:08:36):
ozone water, which then is goingto remove more bacteria and
more pesticides that the firstsoak did not.
It takes about 30 minutes, butyour produce is going to last
longer, it's going to lookprettier and it's going to be
crunchy again because you'reremoving all the bacteria that's
trying to eat the produce.
Right, Eat the grapes, eatwhatever.
So that's the way I do my soaksnow and I have great luck.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Okay, so first do it with the vinegar, the salt, the
lime, let it sit for like fiveto 10 minutes and then, in a
separate clean water, put themachine and the veggies.
How long do we soak it there?

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
It's about 10 minutes .
There's five buttons.
It actually can make ozonewater that you can swish in your
mouth.
Ozone is amazing, so I use itevery day in my water pick.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
So that's how.
What do we look for in our fish?
In our meats?
Does chicken have parasites?
It does?
Mm-hmm, I stopped eating porkbecause of you.
In our meats Does chicken haveparasites?
It does?
I stopped eating pork becauseof you, by the way.
We have this barbecue and it'scalled Icky Bead.
Gosh, she's going to be like.
It's so delicious.

(01:09:44):
It's like a part of the porkright.
It's so delicious I am freakedout about it.
I don't even touch pork anymore.
Probably a good idea Because ofthose parasites.
I'm like I don't know what'sliving in there.
And they're so delicious though.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Those little barbecues.
Pork is so good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
It's so good, but I stopped.
Ever since I found you, kim,I've stopped eating a lot of
things.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
The pigs are rolling in their poop man.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
I know they're eating it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
They're eating their own kind too.
And then it just the parasitesare just in their muscle and
their tissue and we're eatingthat and it's just yeah, they're
heavy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
I know I've done some research.
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Salmon's my favorite, so I think that's probably why
I attack salmon so much.
I love salmon.
I miss it.
I won't eat it.
I can't get past it.
I will eat like crab only ifit's like steamed, and I do eat
some lobster here and there.
But I immediately either purifybefore to prep my body, or I'll

(01:10:36):
purify after.
Oh my goodness, because you canuse it as a digestive aid.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
So there's no way of we have to cook it on 172,.
You said.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Or I say 212.
212.
Boiling is really the only wayyou're killing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Okay, so boil the fish or any of the meats.
Yeah, and then for the produce,we wash it with the same thing
with fruits.
Wash it very well with yourrecommendation, yeah, and then
take it from there and thencleanse three times a year,
three to four times a year.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Three to four times a year.
Seasonally is really what itused to be like was seasonally.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Okay, Any teas like you recommend to drink like tea.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Hawthorn, hawthorn berry.
Really, if you have a tapewormor you suspect you have a
tapeworm, they don't like it.
You know the bear videos Ialways post where they got them
coming out.
Yeah, they go and eat thehawthorn.
They know to go eat hawthornbecause instinctually their body
is extracting the tapeworm out,so they're able to do that by
going and eating the hawthorn.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Okay, so they're able to do that by going and eating
the hot thorn.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Okay, your face is the best, because it's so gnarly
Gnarly, I'm going to startsaying gnarly.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
It just fits, you know.
Kim, thank you so much forcoming.
I know you were here.
You're not here for a long timetoo right, You're going to
leave.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Right, we've been here.
We started our podcast.
No, our podcast, no way, yeah,here.
Yeah, we started filming ourpodcast on Saturday.
That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Yeah, so we have like two parts to our podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
We have our talking part and then we have like we're
showing people the modalitiesthat you can use, like
cryotherapy, cold plunging redlight.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Like what does all of this look like?
How easy is it to do?
Cold plunging is the thing now.
Oh, it's the best.
I've been doing it for years.
Oh yeah, I do it on my skin.
It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
I do it on my face.
It's amazing.
Just dip it in like ice waterfor a few times, get your
lymphatic going.
Yeah, yeah, it's wonderful.
So we're showing everyone howyou can do these things, how
easy it is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
This is amazing.
I'm going to link your page andeverything and how people can
get in contact with you andthank you so much for joining me
today.
It was such an honor to haveyou and I'm so happy that you
shared your story with us.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Thanks for having me Absolutely.

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