July 18, 2023 • 41 mins
In this episode, we are getting into the debate of which tool we think is better - Google Slides or Google Jamboard. We'll do comparisons of different features and give you our overall impressions and preferences for these two tools. So stay tuned and make sure you listen right to the end!
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News and Updates
- Set up Google Meet breakout rooms ahead of meetings in Google Calendar
- Version history now available for Jamboard on web
Featured Content
- Google Slides: slides.google.com
- Google Jamboard: jamboard.google.com
- What features do we compare?
- Template Gallery in Slides
- Background Images in Slides vs Jamboard
- Tools for interactivity - Toolbar in Jamboard - esp. Sticky Notes
- Collaborators in Jamboard vs. Slides
- Software vs. Hardware for Jamboard
- Add an image into Slides vs Jamboard
- Explore Feature in Slides
- Different versions of Jamboard - web vs devices
- Number of slides vs number of frames
- The adjacent possible - Jake Miller, Educational Duct Tape
- Version History in Slides vs Jamboard
- Adding hyperlinks in Slides
- Adding audio and video files in Slides
- Simplicity of the user interface of Jamboard for littles
- Workspace in Slides - esp when changing slide dimensions
- Zoom tools in Slides
- Adding items to the grey space outside of the canvas in Slides
- Editing the Master in Google Slides
- Comments in Slides
- Different backgrounds in Jamboard
- Adding diagrams via Insert > Diagram in Slides and smash it with Jamboard
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Rachel (00:26):
Welcome to the Edge U Gals podcast.
We are your co-host RachelJohnson
Katie (00:31):
and Katie Atwell.
We are here to bring you tipsand tricks to help you integrate
technology into your classroom.
Rachel (00:41):
In this episode, Katie and I are going to get into the
debate of which one is better,Google Slides or Google
Jamboard.
So we're going
Katie (00:49):
to go over some of the features and give our opinion,
and at the end, Stay tuned forour overall opinion of which is
Rachel (00:57):
better.
Let's get started.
We are gonna start off with somenews and updates from the
Twitterverse and beyond.
So the
Katie (01:10):
first piece of news we're going to share, I know we've
shared it already, but now it'sactually happening, so we wanna
talk about Google Meet and howto set up breakout rooms ahead
of the actual meeting.
So this is a wonderful option,especially if you love breakout
rooms, but you want to make surethat you can choose the breakout
rooms and kind of control someof those groups.
(01:31):
So what you can now do is youcan manage that in a calendar
event and so, you know, set upan event.
Add your students and then youare then going to be able to
Rachel (01:43):
alter that.
So this one started rolling outon March the eighth for rapid
release domains.
It's going to start rolling outto scheduled release domains on
March 22nd, so it might not bein your account yet.
The last I checked, it's not inmy account, so I, I can't really
play around with it yet, but I'msuper excited about this coming
(02:04):
out.
From the looks of the littlegift that they have in their
news announcement.
For this, you do have to haveall of your students in as
participants for your event inyour Google calendar.
I don't know if they're gonnahave to also have rsvp.
Katie (02:22):
Yes.
I think the answer to that isyes, from what I've seen, but as
a heads up, it's not thatdifficult.
Just create it ahead of yourclass.
And then give them two minutesin class to go and hit.
Yes.
I know a lot of people are sohesitant because of the time it
takes to input names.
And what if they don't just givethem built in class time to
rsvp?
Yes.
(02:42):
You can explain it ahead of timeif you really want.
I think students are fairlyreasonable.
It
Rachel (02:47):
looks really cool though.
You're gonna be able to set upthe number of rooms.
You're gonna be able to set upyour timers.
You're gonna be able to shuffleclear.
So you could do all of this inthe little panel that you have
in Google Calendar instead ofdoing it on the fly in Google
Katie (03:03):
Meet.
So once your calendar event iscreated, what you're going to do
is click on that calendar eventand then there should be a
little setting cogwheel that'sbeside the Google meet link, and
then it will open up.
It essentially looks like whatit does in Google Meet.
So it has like those sameheadings and whatnot along the
top, and then you can type ordrag names into the breakout
(03:25):
rooms as
Rachel (03:25):
necessary.
This would've come in so helpfulfor an event I ran last week.
Katie (03:30):
Of course.
Isn't that the way
Rachel (03:32):
right now?
What we need to do?
So it was my coaching team,right?
So there's three of us.
The other two are running theshow and doing all the talking
in pieces because I am in thebackground doing, we like to
call it my puppet master movesand setting up the breakout
rooms, and my goodness, it takesa lot of time.
(03:53):
Especially when you're doingbreakout rooms intentionally.
So this is gonna be so usefuland reduce my stress anyway in
terms of running those kind
Katie (04:04):
of events.
Yeah, no, it's definitely, I, Ithink it's a great feature and
I'm really glad that they'rerolling this out.
The
Rachel (04:10):
next one that we wanna talk about, it's kind of funny
that this announcement is comingout and we're, we're recording
the news for our Jamboard versusSlides episode.
Mm-hmm.
But anyway.
Google just announced thatversion history is now available
for Jamboard on web, so it isbeing ruled out as we speak for
(04:33):
both rapid release and scheduledrelease domains starting on
March the 12th.
So it may or may not be in youraccount yet, but it is coming.
And it's funny that we're doingthis news update right now
because as you're listening toour featured content, we
recorded this a couple weeks agoin terms of our featured
content.
And so yeah, there's gonna be alittle bit in there that's not
(04:57):
quite right anymore, but that'sokay.
Katie (05:00):
And we'll be sure to update our show notes to show
that as well.
And, um, you'll just have tosee, um, how this affects maybe
which one is better.
True.
Right?
Because you know, but yes, I'mnot gonna give anything away.
Rachel (05:15):
So we're just gonna leave it at that.
And what we'll do is we'llinclude the links to both of
these news announcements fromGoogle in our show notes, and
you can access our show notesfor this episode@edals.com slash
42.
That's EDU G A L s.com/ 42.
Katie (05:34):
And now onto our featured content.
Rachel (05:42):
This week, Katie and I are bringing you an episode all
about which one is better.
Google Slides or Google Board.
Yes.
Katie (05:50):
So this has been a little bit contentious.
I like them both, but we thoughtthat we'd ex.
Explore which one we like betterbecause as we're using them,
they're all, we're always like,Hmm, would this be better in a
Google slide or would it not?
So today we shall go to battle.
Rachel (06:07):
So getting ready for this episode, we decided not to
share notes with each other cuzwe wanted to keep it really kind
of impromptu and see what wethink.
I have a feeling though, weprobably are thinking the exact
same thing.
I know
Katie (06:21):
we always do, which is kind of funny, but maybe we'll
Rachel (06:24):
surprise one another.
Yeah, you never know.
Katie (06:26):
Okay, so how shall we attack this?
I'm thinking that maybe we talkabout a feature that maybe is
better in one versus the other,
Rachel (06:33):
and then kind of go from there.
Yeah, that works for me.
I was kind of thinking along thesame lines, so off, look at
that, I think.
Katie (06:39):
Yeah.
Rachel (06:42):
Amazing.
So the first one that I kind ofwanna talk about between slides
and Jamboard has to do when youfirst get started with either
one.
So if you go to.
slides.google.com orjamboard.google.com.
The one that I wanna point outright here right now is that
there is a template gallery inslides, but there isn't in
(07:03):
Google Jamboard, so I thinkthat's kind of a win for Google
Slides there.
I
Katie (07:08):
do agree.
That being said, there are lotsof Jamboard templates that are
cropping up by differenteducators online.
So in some ways you do have theoption.
You just have to know who tocheck out.
Rachel (07:20):
I do like some of these templates in here though.
Like it is really a nice kind ofquick way where you don't have
to go and search for templateson social media or doing a
Google search or anything likethat.
They are all right here andthere's some really great.
Education ones too.
I was kind of poking aroundbefore we started recording
here.
And so things like a lesson planor flashcards, like they have a
(07:44):
flashcards template.
So I think those are, are kindof really nice to be able to
just get started quickly withsomething rather than having to
search.
That's fair.
I guess the other thing aboutthe templates too is that you
can have ones for yourparticular school board or
district, Does well, we have onein there, so you know, that's
kind of nice to be able toaccess it right from there.
Katie (08:06):
Yeah.
That way, if you're doing someboard wide pd, I know that they
do prefer that you use theirtemplate, so yeah, something to
keep in mind.
Okay, so now the first one thatI kind of went to is when I am
trying to personalize and add abackground in slides.
It's really easy to add the samebackground to every slide in a
presentation.
Whereas in Jamboard, you have todo each frame individually, so
(08:29):
there's no like adding abackground to all frames
options.
And that to me was a little bitannoying because it's just a few
extra steps each time.
Now, maybe that's minor, butwhen it comes down to it,
sometimes a little bit of ashortcut is nice.
Rachel (08:43):
I think the other thing too, about.
The backgrounds as well.
And I think the reason why Iwould give this one to Google
Slides instead of GoogleJamboard is not only can you add
it to all of the slides reallyquickly, but the resolution of
the picture is so much nicer inGoogle Slides than it is in
Jamboard.
And I don't understand what'sgoing on in Jamboard when you
(09:06):
add that background, becausewhenever you do it always.
Looks a little bit fuzzy.
Katie (09:11):
Yes, I was going to say, it looks a little blurry.
Rachel (09:14):
It drives me mental.
I don't understand because thepictures that I'm adding as a
background are very highresolution.
I can add the same one in slidesand the same one in Jamboard,
and it looks 10 times better inGoogle Slides.
Katie (09:29):
Yes.
So for image backgrounds, Ithink we have a clear winner
with slides.
Rachel (09:33):
We do, and I'm, I'm kind of hopeful that.
Jamboard will get better overtime.
Katie (09:38):
So the next one.
Now this one to me, is a win forJamboard.
I find Jamboard more easy forinteraction, so the tools that
they have for interaction,whether it be the sticky notes
marker, et cetera, are easilyaccessible for students.
So it's less work to be able tocreate something that people can
Rachel (09:57):
interact with.
Yeah, I would agree with thatone too.
I think the toolbar andJamboard, well, it's kind of
limited in terms of what it cando in the web-based version.
It still just does have thosetool that are not available in
Google Slides.
So for example, the markerthat's not available, well, I
mean, you could emulate the samething in Google Slides, but it's
(10:18):
so much more.
Kind of effort that you wouldhave to go through, cuz you
would have to go through theline tool and then select the
scribble and then it just, Idon't know, it looks kind of
weird when you're done versusthe marker tool in Jamboard is
just, it's so much easier.
Plus you've got the options notonly for the marker, like the
pen, but you have the pen,you've got the marker, you got
(10:40):
the highlighter and the brush,and then
Katie (10:42):
the scribble tool I find like it, it's not even that
great.
And then, It's not
Rachel (10:47):
as easy to use.
While we're kind of on the toolshere too, I think the sticky
note feature is absolutelyamazing in Jamboard.
Yes.
And again, you could kind ofemulate that in slides, right?
By creating a text box, coloringit, and then typing text in that
text box.
But that's three or fourdifferent steps versus.
(11:09):
Just clicking on a sticky noteand Jamboard and typing.
Katie (11:13):
Exactly.
And to me that is like farsuperior.
It's built in.
Rachel (11:17):
It's right there.
Yeah.
And I've found that the stickynotes, like before, you couldn't
copy and paste them to differentslides, which drove me insane.
But I tried it the other day andit worked.
So they are making improvementsto Jamboard.
And yeah, like you can now copyand paste those sticky notes to
different frames.
So yes, sticky notes for the bigwin for Jamboard,
Katie (11:39):
for sure.
Yes.
And so sticky notes andinteractive features.
But then here's the downside tothis interactive part of
Jamboard.
You really are limited to thenumber of active collaborators.
And so if you have, like Iremember doing PD and we
couldn't get past like 18 or 19,maybe 20 people on
Rachel (11:57):
Jamboard.
Yeah, and that's weird becauseif you look up any kind of
documentation about GoogleJamboard, it does say it can
support up to 50 collaborators.
I know.
Katie (12:07):
But I've never been able to get 50 collaborators
Rachel (12:09):
on a Jamboard.
No.
So we did a PD session last weekand we had about 20 people in
our session, and we had a singleJamboard.
I was a little bit worried aboutthat, but it did work with those
good.
I haven't tried it though withlarger groups in quite a while,
so maybe there's betterstability now, I don't
Katie (12:29):
know.
But with slides, like I've neverhad any issues.
I never have a max out issue orpeople not being able to get on
it.
So it, it certainly is morestable in terms of the number of
collaborators you can have onthere.
That
Rachel (12:41):
maybe kind of goes along with Google's initial reason why
they created Jamboard.
It wasn't for us to use itwithout an actual Jamboard.
Katie (12:51):
No, that's true.
It was meant to be similar to asmart board, but Google with
different features.
So it was created for adifferent
Rachel (12:59):
purpose.
Yeah.
So I wonder if that's kind ofwhy the stability is kind of
missing a little bit, because itwasn't something that Google saw
would be super valuable, rightwhen they first started creating
this software.
But now that educators are usingit in very different ways from
probably what they everimagined.
(13:20):
The need is.
The need is there.
Katie (13:22):
Yeah.
I think because we need a W,like some teachers need a
whiteboard, right?
And they need it to be digital.
And so this kind of popped up,you know, in the spring when we
were first, you know, in remotelearning and this was a tool
that allowed you to do a lot ofdigital whiteboard features and
it was approved by our board.
So this is a really big go-to.
And so I think that kind ofspurred, Hey, look at all of
(13:43):
this activity by education,using this tool that we didn't
actually plan for this purpose,but let's go with it.
So I do feel like they areimproving it and, and they are
picking up on what educators aredoing and they're really
receptive to that, which I, Ilike Google's
Rachel (13:56):
pretty good for that.
Now I have one where I thinkthey're kind of tied in terms of
capability and that's being ableto add an image into either
slides or Jamboard.
So going from Google Slides, yougo to insert image and then you
have upload from computers,search the web, your drive
(14:17):
photos.
By URL and camera, and you havethe exact same options in Google
Jamboard when you click on addImage.
So for me, they kind of tie inthis particular area.
Now, one
Katie (14:29):
thing that I do think is a slides win.
There's not an explore featureon Jamboard like there is in
slides.
And so I kind of wish they hadthe explore feature so that you
could do a little bit ofresearch and, and you know, put
some information on a jam, kindof similar to what students
would do in a slide.
Rachel (14:45):
Well, I'm just gonna put that feedback into Google right
now then.
Yeah, it is a shame that theExplore tool is missing.
I think that would be a reallygreat addition to Jamboard for
sure, to be able to look updifferent articles on the web.
Now, what would be really neat,and I know you can do a little
bit of this with.
(15:06):
The, like the iOS and theAndroid version versions of
Jamboard as you can adddifferent files from your drive
and stuff like that.
But wouldn't it be awesome ifyou had the explore tool and you
had a website you wanted tograb, you could just click and
drag and drop it over onto yourJamboard and then interact with
it there.
Yes.
That would be
Katie (15:25):
great.
That would be amazing.
I wish they had more of that andthat kind of fits with their
original purpose of using itsimilar to a smart board.
Right.
So I, I'm, I'm surprised thatthey haven't done that.
And to be honest, I really wishthat they would have the same
features available on the webversion that they do in the
iPad.
Rachel (15:40):
Definitely.
I guess in terms of looking atslides versus Jamboard there,
the features available inJamboard are definitely limited
compared to slides overall, butit's even more limited in
Jamboard in the web-basedversion than it is in the mobile
app versions of Jamboard.
I want the ability to be able toadd a file from my Google Drive
(16:01):
into my Jamboard.
Yeah.
I don't wanna have to have two
Katie (16:04):
devices to be able to do that.
That seems so silly.
Rachel (16:06):
And I tried it a couple weeks back, adding a file from
my drive into the Jamboard andthen trying to access it from
the web-based version.
And it just, they don't talk toeach other at all.
It's just basically an image andI can't do anything with it.
In the web-based version.
That's so interesting
Katie (16:25):
that they can't
Rachel (16:26):
get it to function the same way.
I, I guess it must havesomething to do with the code in
Chrome, right?
Like it, it has to do withsomething where they have to
code it differently for it towork in the web-based version
versus a mobile version.
But still it is a shame.
So the
Katie (16:41):
next feature is the number of slides versus the
number of frames you can
Rachel (16:46):
have.
Oh yeah.
That's a good one.
So
Katie (16:48):
slides, you're kind of unlimited.
So if you want one student tohave a slide and you have a
class of 30, not a problem.
Jamboard, you max out at 20, soyou can't, you'd have to have
two separate jam boards or sharea jam or a
Rachel (17:00):
frame, rather.
Poor Jamboard is getting reallykind of punched here.
Eh?
I
Katie (17:04):
know, I know.
But I feel like, I feel like itwill make a comeback.
Rachel (17:11):
Yeah, I agree that that one is super limiting for
Jamboard, but I think, again, itkind of goes back to the
purposes of the two, right?
Yes.
Slides is really kind oftraditionally meant for
presentations and the fact thatwe use it in so many different
ways and education.
One of the sayings I often hearJake Miller say is, He talks
(17:33):
about the adjacent possible.
And so it's not only like kindof taking that tool, but then
talking to other people andhearing about the ideas that
they use and the different waysthat things can be used.
I'm, I'm not doing him anyjustice in terms of how I'm
explaining it
Katie (17:48):
here.
But that makes sense because youknow, educators, were always
trying to make things fit,right?
We have a limited number ofresources, but we want to do
great things.
And so we're always kind ofcoming up with ideas and
thinking about how we can kindof shift it and change it a bit
and give it a different purpose.
And so it was created as more ofa presentation or lesson style
(18:09):
tool.
But I think educators havereally taken it to the next
level by using it for a varietyof different reasons.
And.
Collaboration, et cetera.
So I feel like that's almostlike just educators trying to
make the most of it withouthaving to spend any more of
their own money on resources.
Rachel (18:26):
It's just, I I think when Google created these tools,
they didn't think about theadjacent possible.
Katie (18:32):
No,
Rachel (18:33):
I don't think so.
No.
So it's, it's really cool.
Like.
Slides was meant as apresentation tool.
So yeah, needing more than 20slides for a presentation makes
a lot of sense, whereas GoogleJamboard was meant for
collaboration on a physicaljamboard.
So do you really need more than20 frames?
You're probably only using acouple of frames if you're doing
(18:53):
sort of these brainstormingtypes of sessions.
So they probably thought 20frames was more than enough.
Agreed.
But
Katie (19:01):
Google, if you're listening, it's not.
Rachel (19:04):
It's totally not.
So going along with those linestoo, Google slides.
Okay.
This is current for now.
Like this is going to change.
So depending on when you'relistening to this episode, but
in Google Slides, you do haveversion history, whereas Google
Jamboard currently you do not.
Although they just announcedthat they.
Are bringing it in.
(19:25):
So currently, if you're using itin education at the moment and
something inappropriate happens,or you have kids deleting stuff
in Jamboard, there's no kind ofreal way for you to figure out
who's doing that.
Whereas in slides you can seeeverything and you can go back
to a certain point in time, oras in Jamboard, you can't
(19:46):
currently.
No, but that is going to change.
So I think once they've addedthat feature into Jamboard,
that's a tie for sure.
And then
Katie (19:53):
another thing that I find is hyperlinking within a slide
versus Jamboard.
Rachel (19:58):
So you can't hyperlink in Jamboard?
No.
I really wish that they wouldbring that in to Jamboard.
Katie (20:04):
I mean, it does go back to purpose.
Like what is the purpose of thatJamboard?
And if it's a collaborativespace, do you need hyperlinks?
I mean, kind of, yes.
If you're brainstorming as agroup and you're.
All finding different websites,but maybe that's not the
Rachel (20:16):
right tool at that point.
I do think that there would bevalue in bringing hyperlinks
into Jamboard, though for sure.
There's been a few instanceswhere we've planned PD sessions
and it's centered around smallgroup collaborations, so it
makes sense to use Jamboard, butthen when you're like, okay, I
wanna share this one resource,Then you kind of need slides to
(20:39):
do the hyperlink or the video orlike any of that sort of stuff.
Right.
So you could share the links inyour Google meet in the chat
window, but then you're, I don'tknow, it's, it's nice to have
everything all in one spot.
Katie (20:52):
Okay.
I have another one that's antiJamboard and
Rachel (20:54):
I don't like it.
I know, because you know,honestly, I really love
Jamboard.
I know.
Same here.
And it sounds like this episode,we really hate Jamboard, but we
don't.
We love
Katie (21:03):
it.
Yeah.
But it's audio.
Audio files.
And same with video, right?
Audio and video files.
It doesn't work
Rachel (21:08):
on Jamboard?
No.
Again, limited features.
Come on, Jamboard, you need tocatch up.
Katie (21:14):
Okay.
But here's a good thing aboutthe limited features.
It's easy
Rachel (21:17):
to use.
It is very, very easy to use.
I will give you that
Katie (21:20):
one.
So I have students, like I havesome students who came from
overseas.
And they didn't even have cellphones in their country.
And so coming here to Canada andgetting inundated with all of
this technology and all of thesetools, slides is pretty
complicated to learn.
There's a lot of differentthings that you have to figure
out and play with and, and youhave to know where to find
features, but Jamboard.
(21:41):
Super simple.
Rachel (21:42):
Yeah.
So maybe that's then a win forJamboard, especially for the
littles.
Like think about the littles ifyou wanna do some kind of
collaborative activity withthem.
It actually makes more sense touse Jamboard because of its
simplicity.
Katie (21:56):
And it's funny because my, my daughter, Learned how to
use Jamboard when, uh, they weredoing some remote learning.
And so she quickly created aJamboard entitled, which pet
should we get?
And then had, and then haddifferent frames saying cat or
dog, and then like, animalversus animal.
And I'm like, Madison, no petsfor you.
(22:21):
But, uh, no, that was kind ofcute.
But that goes to show like she'seight and we really limit tech
time and screen time at home.
So outside of school, shedoesn't use a tablet or a
Chromebook or any of thosethings.
So if she can pick that up thatquickly and figure out how to
add images and share it with me,then um, I think that goes to
show how
Rachel (22:41):
simple it is.
My son is nine.
He actually knows decent use ofGoogle Slides though, but
that's.
Partly because he is in virtualschool this year, but he still
knows probably Jamboard better.
Like Jamboard is super, supersimple for anyone to use.
Whereas with slides, he kind ofkeeps looking over my shoulder
when I'm doing stuff in slides.
(23:01):
So he's like, oh, I didn't knowyou could do that.
And like gets really excitedabout all of these different
things.
But yeah, I think Jamboarddefinitely is.
A big, big win for anyone who isteaching in the elementary
panel.
Yeah.
Now granted then you probablyhave the issues of kids deleting
stuff and moving stuff, andthere's all that kind of digital
(23:23):
citizenship piece that's gonnaneed to go along with it.
But in terms of ease of use,definitely for the elementary
kids.
Katie (23:30):
Okay, so here's another one.
The workspace and slides is hardto get to a good size where you
can actually work with it.
So if you're changing thedimensions, for example, so
sometimes I'll wanna change itto eight and a half by 11 and
make a worksheet or you know, dosomething where I have more
space.
The zoom in and out is reallyawkward, whereas Jamboard, you
can see it.
And it's easy.
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I don't know.
I find it easier to use aJamboard in terms of visual
Rachel (23:55):
workspace.
I would agree with that one too.
So if you are, yeah, changingthe page, set up on slides and
then you're trying to go andlook at it, a lot of people
don't even know how to use theZoom tools properly and to zoom
into slides to take a look atit.
So yes, jam board's definitelyeasier to look at, but then you
can't change the dimensions ofyour jam.
Katie (24:17):
As I was saying that, I was like, wait a second, I
shouldn't have said that.
But you're right, you can'tchange the dimensions.
Whereas I can do whatever size Iwant of a slide, right?
Which I don't think many peopleknow.
You can actually change it, thatwhen you're printing it out, it
could be an eight and a half by11.
You can make it into a PDF or animage.
Like there's so many things thatyou can do with slides that
can't be done with
Rachel (24:37):
Jamboard.
So going along with that themetoo, with slides, you can add
stuff to the space around theslide too, which is really,
really nice.
To be able to, and we did thisfor a session that we did with
staff a couple weeks ago wherewe had, we used Google Slides to
record everything that was beingdone in the breakout rooms, but
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then we put the breakout roomnumber off to the side of the
canvas, so we weren't taking upany part of the canvas, but then
they could see which breakoutroom they were in.
And then we also copied animage.
Of the instructions and we hadthe instructions off to the side
in the slides as well.
Nice.
So you can make use of that grayspace around your slides,
(25:22):
whereas you can't in Jamboard.
No, definitely.
And I think that's one that alot of people don't think to use
as well.
Katie (25:28):
So I like adding things to the master slide.
So adding backgrounds or addingtext boxes, et cetera, to the
master.
So that it's permanent, it'smore permanently there and
harder for students to delete.
I
Rachel (25:43):
would agree.
And the fact that you can nowadd that custom background to
Jamboard, like it does act alittle bit like a master slide
and that you can't delete itunless you know that you just
gotta go replace it.
But that's kind of a differentstory.
Right.
But in.
Slides.
Yes, I agree.
I love going into the master.
I'll take a template and usuallyI hate the fonts.
(26:04):
What a surprise.
Shocker, right?
But yeah, so usually I'll hatethe fonts, but you can easily go
into a master and just changethe fonts in that template
super, super quickly, and itapplies it to every slide you
create.
It saves so much time to be ableto do those sort of tweaks or
even the color scheme.
Like if you come across atemplate and you don't like the
(26:26):
color scheme, you can change itdirectly in the master.
There's only six colors in aJamboard that you can use.
So I don't know.
I think definitely slides winson customizability for sure.
And And
Katie (26:39):
features, right?
So in terms of how much you cando inside, Like, there's so much
there, right?
So many features.
You have to learn them, but onceyou know them, it's a
Rachel (26:50):
pretty powerful tool.
Now, I've got one other that'skind of weird for a Google tool
and I, it just kind of poppedinto my head as we're talking
here on slides, you can leavecomments for people, whereas on
Jamboard, There's no ability tocomment anywhere.
I never really thought of that.
No, I never really thought aboutit either, but it's just
something that's kind of poppedinto my head all of a sudden.
(27:12):
So if you
Katie (27:12):
have group work happening on jam boards, you have to
actually speak to the group orsend an email versus being able
to leave a quick comment on aslide.
That they've been working on.
Rachel (27:22):
Or you have to like physically go and put a sticky
note on there and then you wouldhave to say who, who wrote that
sticky note, because there's nokind of authoring that goes on
in terms of that.
So yeah, I thi I think, again,I'm so sorry, Jamboard, but
Google Slides wins on thatbecause you can leave comments
and.
(27:42):
You can have that kind of backand forth conversation without
messing up anything on thecanvas itself.
So I'm gonna go back to
Katie (27:50):
backgrounds again.
I like Jamboard for like thegraph paper, the lined paper,
you know, some of thosebackgrounds that they have built
into
Rachel (27:59):
your options.
I agree with that.
So that is super useful for mathfolks.
Like if you wanted to do areally quick sketch of a graph,
you just need to go grab, likechange and set the background to
graph paper and then just drawright, and then it's easier to
draw as well with the pen tool.
And you can even get straightlines by holding down the shift
(28:20):
key as you draw.
I don't know if you know that,but that's a really kind of neat
one.
And so I would agree it's somuch quicker, so much simpler to
create any kind of graphing oror anything like that with those
tools and those backgrounds inJamboard.
Whereas in slides, you wouldhave to go find a picture of
(28:40):
graph paper first and thenupload it and Yeah.
So it, it's a lot more steps.
Yeah.
The chalkboard background isalso pretty cool in Jamboard, so
if you've ever, if you haven'ttried that before, if you go on
that and then use the white pentool, it looks really cool.
I don't know.
I think it's cuz it's different,right?
Or if you use the yellow pentool, like the colors stand out
(29:02):
really, really nice on the blackbackground.
Yes.
There's some good contrast.
I think that's kind of cool aswell.
I mean, yeah, you could, youcould simulate the same thing on
Google Slides, but we've alreadytalked about that in terms of
the pen tool versus the scribbleand it, it's just not the same.
Jamboard definitely wins for anykind of writing on a slide for
sure.
Okay.
(29:23):
Uh, one more that I have.
That could be a kind of aninteresting debate.
So in slides, if you go toinsert and then diagram, and
again, this is kind of a hiddentool in slides, but there are so
many types of diagrams, likepre-built diagrams that you
could bring in into your slides.
(29:43):
So you can bring in things likea grid, a hierarchy, a timeline,
a process, a relationship, or acycle.
And then in each of thosecategories there's also
different options.
So you can decide how manylevels you can also decide on
from a few preset colors andthen a few different styles.
(30:04):
So I like this for creatingreally quick kind of flow
charts.
Yeah.
Types of diagrams.
And I think it's a very, veryuseful tool.
But I also think that a lot ofthese are not that hard to
recreate.
And Jamboard too.
I agree.
And I think the reason why Ilike the Jamboard maybe a little
(30:24):
bit more, even though they wouldlook prettier in slides, is
because.
You could put stuff on stickynotes, and then it's really easy
to move around the page.
So if you wanted to startcreating a flowchart, but then
you're like, oh, no, wait, thatshouldn't really be there.
It should be somewhere else.
It's easier to manipulate.
Katie (30:42):
So even the timeline.
I like how interactive you canmake a timeline on Jamboard.
So if you do like the actual,like an image of a timeline and
then sticky notes, you know, youcan make it interactive and come
up with that timeline with yourstudents.
So whether it's, you know,you've read a novel or a story
and you wanna talk about plotand talk about the major events,
Or you know, a history class andyou're going through a specific
(31:05):
unit and you wanna say, okay,let's go over what happened
first in this event.
You know, you can really kind ofget them to brainstorm, put them
all on sticky notes, and then,okay, now let's put it in order.
Let's talk about what happenedfirst.
And I think there's more valueto doing it.
On Jamboard because you can makethat so interactive and easy to
move around.
(31:25):
I think for
Rachel (31:25):
me this is, this is a really good example of taking
both and smashing them together,and I think there's a lot of
value in taking features fromGoogle Slides that you don't
have in Jamboard and creatingstuff in there and then using
them as.
Custom backgrounds in Jamboard,and while they might be a little
(31:45):
bit fuzzy, you still get thatinteractive experience with
Jamboard.
So what I would do is I wouldtake, say one of these timeline
templates, create my template inslides.
Pull off all of the kind ofwriting piece and just put like
the basics that I want to thenbe built on in Google Jamboard.
No, I think
Katie (32:05):
that's great and I think that's where it comes down to
use.
So, you know, we talk about allof these things that Jamboard
doesn't have or isn't quite asgood at, but if I wanna make it
interactive and something thatI'm doing with my students and
everybody's kind of getting asay and we're developing it
together, I love using templatesin Jamboard because then I.
(32:26):
We're actually working togetherin problem solving together, and
I'm not just doing a sit and getlesson, whereas slides, I think
more, if I'm using it as ateacher, it's because I'm
teaching out a lesson and youknow, maybe we'll have some
interactive time with slides,which makes it a great tool.
But I think to be honest,Jamboard has interaction built
into its purpose, and I thinkthat's where.
(32:48):
It really is more useful for meas an educator.
Totally agree.
So I think the lesson here isthey're just different.
So slides is, you know, it's a,it's a tool that Google has had
for a long time, so it has a lotmore features and has improved
over time.
And Jamboard is one that is upand coming for Google, so they
haven't really had a chance tofurther develop it and make it
(33:12):
as powerful as slides.
But I think they're justdifferent.
They have different purposes.
So I think the big question iswhat are your teaching goals and
which one works best?
I
Rachel (33:21):
think that goes with any kind of choice in terms of
technology use though, and wewere talking about this a bit
before we recorded, but youreally do have to start from a
place of what are your goals?
What are your goals forlearning?
What are your goals for yourstudents?
What do they wanna take out ofthat particular activity or
lesson?
And then choose your tool
Katie (33:42):
from there.
Yeah, like don't just go to whatyou're comfortable with and what
you're used to.
I think it's important that youreally do think about your goals
of that lesson or that day and
Rachel (33:52):
that tool.
I think that's actually wherethere's a lot of, I don't know,
gaps in terms of professionallearning.
You know, cuz so much of theprofessional learning, like even
stuff I've run this year hasbeen very much a how-to kind of
session.
I know, but it's missing thatpiece of why, like, why are you
doing this?
Why do you wanna use this?
(34:12):
Tool and what are you gettingfrom it?
And it's tough
Katie (34:15):
because this year is, well, it's crazy, right?
Like we're in a totallydifferent teaching system,
hybrid quad masters switching toall remote.
And so I feel like everyone iskind of just in survival mode
and just trying to absorb asmuch as they can as to how to
use tools, but not really readyfor that next step of why and
how do I choose the best toolfor
Rachel (34:38):
what I'm doing?
I think one of my big worriesfor.
This is, you know, a lot ofteachers are learning these
tools and using them this yearin terms of surviving, right?
And being able to survive inthis kind of virtual, hybrid,
whatever, teaching world.
But then once things go back tonormal, like pre C O V I D, kind
of normal, that it's all justgonna go back to the way it was
(35:01):
where technology is notsomething that gets used and is
just kind of shoved into acorner and they're just gonna go
back to whatever was
Katie (35:08):
comfortable.
I think yes and no.
So there are some ways that yes,I might go back to less
technology, like for some of myreading assessments.
And you know, for my ELLs, Ireally like it when they're
writing by hand on paper, when Iwant a diagnostic or an
assessment that I can kind oftrack where they're at.
But in some ways, You know, Ihave taken out of this year so
(35:30):
much about building communityand some of these fun activities
that we do digitally.
It's actually been really greatand you know, my class, like
they're so happy, they're somuch happier because they get to
know the students in their classmore.
They get to know me a lot more.
It's more personal.
And so I think in a lot of ways,We're gonna take the things that
worked really well and continue,and then the things where, you
(35:53):
know, this was survival and itwasn't the best, it wasn't
ideal.
You know, maybe I'll continue tobuild those skills with my
students anyhow, because trustme, I learned the hard way.
Then I need to teach my, mystudents how to use technology.
Right?
When we first went digital lastyear, And I was teaching
students with, you know, minimalliteracy in their first language
and very little English.
I didn't focus on technology assomething I had to teach because
(36:16):
I was really trying to get themcommunicating in English and
understanding more of the worldaround them in the classroom and
in school.
And I learned that lesson thehard way that I kind of failed
them in that respect.
So in some ways I think we'regoing to take the technology and
the things that really workedwell and go with it, but I think
teachers are also going to beopen more.
To a bunch of these tools thatare really improving and have
(36:39):
potential in their, in theirclassroom.
Yeah, I guess we'll see.
So I think time will tell thosewho hate technology will
probably kind of let go of it abit, but I'm hoping that we'll
be pleasantly surprised.
It
Rachel (36:49):
almost seems a bit wishy washy, right?
That we're kind of ending on anote where, well, you gotta pick
the right tool for the rightjob.
Katie (36:58):
Okay.
So if you want me to choose.
In terms of my teachingpractice, if I had to choose
only one of those tools, I wouldpick Jamboard.
It's not as powerful, and itmight not have the same
features, but I could substitutesomething out instead of slides.
Whereas in Jamboard, I reallylike the interaction and I like
the power that that has.
For a lesson in my classroom.
(37:18):
Interesting.
I think I've surprised you.
Rachel (37:22):
You have surprised me.
But it does make sense from ateaching perspective.
Now I'm thinking as a coach,which one I would prefer, I
think in terms of the kind ofwork that I need to do,
presenting a lot of professionallearning and different
opportunities there.
While it pains me to say thisbecause I absolutely love
Jamboard, I think I would haveto give it to Google Slides.
Katie (37:45):
No, that makes sense.
Like when I deliver pd, I useslides.
I don't use Jamboard, but for meas an educator, like as a
teacher, like with students, Ithink I like Jamboard more.
It really gets kids talking.
Rachel (37:56):
Now, for me it depends.
I like using both together inprofessional learning.
So if I'm presentinginformation, it makes sense to
use slides using Jamboard topresent information.
You can't even get it into apresenter view.
So, you know, there, there'skind of that piece.
But then if we're doing.
Any K, anything kind ofinteractive, any kind of
(38:17):
brainstorming, anything likethat?
Y you gotta go Jamboard, but Iguess, I guess if we don't wanna
sit on the fence and we have topick one tool, I would say for
coaches and anyone sort of atthat level in their district
slides is kind of your go-to.
That makes sense to me.
It's so sad to say
Katie (38:35):
that though, and the fact that it's sad for you to say
that tells me how you reallyfeel about Jamboard.
I can't believe that we disagree
Rachel (38:45):
though.
Yeah, that's that's prettyimpressive.
I know.
I think if Google got ontoJamboard and added a few more of
those features, I.
It would definitely change evenfor a coaching perspective.
And I would say even if I, it,it depends.
If I'm doing larger professionallearning, larger sessions, then
slides make sense.
But if I'm doing one-to-onecoaching, Jamboard absolutely
(39:08):
makes sense.
No, definitely.
So again, it's, it's going backto those goals and what you
wanna achieve in whatever you'redoing.
No, it's true.
Anyway, we would love to knowwhat you think.
So are you team Google Slides orare you Team Jamboard?
If you would like to weigh in onthis conversation, we would love
(39:29):
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So you could go onto ourflipgrid at edu
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And to access
Katie (39:42):
our show notes because as always, we will have some show
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You can access that@edugals.comslash 42.
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Rachel (39:55):
And if you have a colleague or friend who would
really benefit from our episode,we would love it if you would
share it with someone and getinto the debate with them.
On whether they like slides orJamboard better.
I think this is, I don't know,it's kind of a hot topic.
It's contentious, so we would,uh, we would love it if you
shared it out and started thatdebate.
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Welcome to the Edge U Gals podcast.
We are your co-host RachelJohnson
Katie (00:31):
and Katie Atwell.
We are here to bring you tipsand tricks to help you integrate
technology into your classroom.
Rachel (00:41):
In this episode, Katie and I are going to get into the
debate of which one is better,Google Slides or Google
Jamboard.
So we're going
Katie (00:49):
to go over some of the features and give our opinion,
and at the end, Stay tuned forour overall opinion of which is
Rachel (00:57):
better.
Let's get started.
We are gonna start off with somenews and updates from the
Twitterverse and beyond.
So the
Katie (01:10):
first piece of news we're going to share, I know we've
shared it already, but now it'sactually happening, so we wanna
talk about Google Meet and howto set up breakout rooms ahead
of the actual meeting.
So this is a wonderful option,especially if you love breakout
rooms, but you want to make surethat you can choose the breakout
rooms and kind of control someof those groups.
(01:31):
So what you can now do is youcan manage that in a calendar
event and so, you know, set upan event.
Add your students and then youare then going to be able to
Rachel (01:43):
alter that.
So this one started rolling outon March the eighth for rapid
release domains.
It's going to start rolling outto scheduled release domains on
March 22nd, so it might not bein your account yet.
The last I checked, it's not inmy account, so I, I can't really
play around with it yet, but I'msuper excited about this coming
(02:04):
out.
From the looks of the littlegift that they have in their
news announcement.
For this, you do have to haveall of your students in as
participants for your event inyour Google calendar.
I don't know if they're gonnahave to also have rsvp.
Katie (02:22):
Yes.
I think the answer to that isyes, from what I've seen, but as
a heads up, it's not thatdifficult.
Just create it ahead of yourclass.
And then give them two minutesin class to go and hit.
Yes.
I know a lot of people are sohesitant because of the time it
takes to input names.
And what if they don't just givethem built in class time to
rsvp?
Yes.
(02:42):
You can explain it ahead of timeif you really want.
I think students are fairlyreasonable.
It
Rachel (02:47):
looks really cool though.
You're gonna be able to set upthe number of rooms.
You're gonna be able to set upyour timers.
You're gonna be able to shuffleclear.
So you could do all of this inthe little panel that you have
in Google Calendar instead ofdoing it on the fly in Google
Katie (03:03):
Meet.
So once your calendar event iscreated, what you're going to do
is click on that calendar eventand then there should be a
little setting cogwheel that'sbeside the Google meet link, and
then it will open up.
It essentially looks like whatit does in Google Meet.
So it has like those sameheadings and whatnot along the
top, and then you can type ordrag names into the breakout
(03:25):
rooms as
Rachel (03:25):
necessary.
This would've come in so helpfulfor an event I ran last week.
Katie (03:30):
Of course.
Isn't that the way
Rachel (03:32):
right now?
What we need to do?
So it was my coaching team,right?
So there's three of us.
The other two are running theshow and doing all the talking
in pieces because I am in thebackground doing, we like to
call it my puppet master movesand setting up the breakout
rooms, and my goodness, it takesa lot of time.
(03:53):
Especially when you're doingbreakout rooms intentionally.
So this is gonna be so usefuland reduce my stress anyway in
terms of running those kind
Katie (04:04):
of events.
Yeah, no, it's definitely, I, Ithink it's a great feature and
I'm really glad that they'rerolling this out.
The
Rachel (04:10):
next one that we wanna talk about, it's kind of funny
that this announcement is comingout and we're, we're recording
the news for our Jamboard versusSlides episode.
Mm-hmm.
But anyway.
Google just announced thatversion history is now available
for Jamboard on web, so it isbeing ruled out as we speak for
(04:33):
both rapid release and scheduledrelease domains starting on
March the 12th.
So it may or may not be in youraccount yet, but it is coming.
And it's funny that we're doingthis news update right now
because as you're listening toour featured content, we
recorded this a couple weeks agoin terms of our featured
content.
And so yeah, there's gonna be alittle bit in there that's not
(04:57):
quite right anymore, but that'sokay.
Katie (05:00):
And we'll be sure to update our show notes to show
that as well.
And, um, you'll just have tosee, um, how this affects maybe
which one is better.
True.
Right?
Because you know, but yes, I'mnot gonna give anything away.
Rachel (05:15):
So we're just gonna leave it at that.
And what we'll do is we'llinclude the links to both of
these news announcements fromGoogle in our show notes, and
you can access our show notesfor this episode@edals.com slash
42.
That's EDU G A L s.com/ 42.
Katie (05:34):
And now onto our featured content.
Rachel (05:42):
This week, Katie and I are bringing you an episode all
about which one is better.
Google Slides or Google Board.
Yes.
Katie (05:50):
So this has been a little bit contentious.
I like them both, but we thoughtthat we'd ex.
Explore which one we like betterbecause as we're using them,
they're all, we're always like,Hmm, would this be better in a
Google slide or would it not?
So today we shall go to battle.
Rachel (06:07):
So getting ready for this episode, we decided not to
share notes with each other cuzwe wanted to keep it really kind
of impromptu and see what wethink.
I have a feeling though, weprobably are thinking the exact
same thing.
I know
Katie (06:21):
we always do, which is kind of funny, but maybe we'll
Rachel (06:24):
surprise one another.
Yeah, you never know.
Katie (06:26):
Okay, so how shall we attack this?
I'm thinking that maybe we talkabout a feature that maybe is
better in one versus the other,
Rachel (06:33):
and then kind of go from there.
Yeah, that works for me.
I was kind of thinking along thesame lines, so off, look at
that, I think.
Katie (06:39):
Yeah.
Rachel (06:42):
Amazing.
So the first one that I kind ofwanna talk about between slides
and Jamboard has to do when youfirst get started with either
one.
So if you go to.
slides.google.com orjamboard.google.com.
The one that I wanna point outright here right now is that
there is a template gallery inslides, but there isn't in
(07:03):
Google Jamboard, so I thinkthat's kind of a win for Google
Slides there.
I
Katie (07:08):
do agree.
That being said, there are lotsof Jamboard templates that are
cropping up by differenteducators online.
So in some ways you do have theoption.
You just have to know who tocheck out.
Rachel (07:20):
I do like some of these templates in here though.
Like it is really a nice kind ofquick way where you don't have
to go and search for templateson social media or doing a
Google search or anything likethat.
They are all right here andthere's some really great.
Education ones too.
I was kind of poking aroundbefore we started recording
here.
And so things like a lesson planor flashcards, like they have a
(07:44):
flashcards template.
So I think those are, are kindof really nice to be able to
just get started quickly withsomething rather than having to
search.
That's fair.
I guess the other thing aboutthe templates too is that you
can have ones for yourparticular school board or
district, Does well, we have onein there, so you know, that's
kind of nice to be able toaccess it right from there.
Katie (08:06):
Yeah.
That way, if you're doing someboard wide pd, I know that they
do prefer that you use theirtemplate, so yeah, something to
keep in mind.
Okay, so now the first one thatI kind of went to is when I am
trying to personalize and add abackground in slides.
It's really easy to add the samebackground to every slide in a
presentation.
Whereas in Jamboard, you have todo each frame individually, so
(08:29):
there's no like adding abackground to all frames
options.
And that to me was a little bitannoying because it's just a few
extra steps each time.
Now, maybe that's minor, butwhen it comes down to it,
sometimes a little bit of ashortcut is nice.
Rachel (08:43):
I think the other thing too, about.
The backgrounds as well.
And I think the reason why Iwould give this one to Google
Slides instead of GoogleJamboard is not only can you add
it to all of the slides reallyquickly, but the resolution of
the picture is so much nicer inGoogle Slides than it is in
Jamboard.
And I don't understand what'sgoing on in Jamboard when you
(09:06):
add that background, becausewhenever you do it always.
Looks a little bit fuzzy.
Katie (09:11):
Yes, I was going to say, it looks a little blurry.
Rachel (09:14):
It drives me mental.
I don't understand because thepictures that I'm adding as a
background are very highresolution.
I can add the same one in slidesand the same one in Jamboard,
and it looks 10 times better inGoogle Slides.
Katie (09:29):
Yes.
So for image backgrounds, Ithink we have a clear winner
with slides.
Rachel (09:33):
We do, and I'm, I'm kind of hopeful that.
Jamboard will get better overtime.
Katie (09:38):
So the next one.
Now this one to me, is a win forJamboard.
I find Jamboard more easy forinteraction, so the tools that
they have for interaction,whether it be the sticky notes
marker, et cetera, are easilyaccessible for students.
So it's less work to be able tocreate something that people can
Rachel (09:57):
interact with.
Yeah, I would agree with thatone too.
I think the toolbar andJamboard, well, it's kind of
limited in terms of what it cando in the web-based version.
It still just does have thosetool that are not available in
Google Slides.
So for example, the markerthat's not available, well, I
mean, you could emulate the samething in Google Slides, but it's
(10:18):
so much more.
Kind of effort that you wouldhave to go through, cuz you
would have to go through theline tool and then select the
scribble and then it just, Idon't know, it looks kind of
weird when you're done versusthe marker tool in Jamboard is
just, it's so much easier.
Plus you've got the options notonly for the marker, like the
pen, but you have the pen,you've got the marker, you got
(10:40):
the highlighter and the brush,and then
Katie (10:42):
the scribble tool I find like it, it's not even that
great.
And then, It's not
Rachel (10:47):
as easy to use.
While we're kind of on the toolshere too, I think the sticky
note feature is absolutelyamazing in Jamboard.
Yes.
And again, you could kind ofemulate that in slides, right?
By creating a text box, coloringit, and then typing text in that
text box.
But that's three or fourdifferent steps versus.
(11:09):
Just clicking on a sticky noteand Jamboard and typing.
Katie (11:13):
Exactly.
And to me that is like farsuperior.
It's built in.
Rachel (11:17):
It's right there.
Yeah.
And I've found that the stickynotes, like before, you couldn't
copy and paste them to differentslides, which drove me insane.
But I tried it the other day andit worked.
So they are making improvementsto Jamboard.
And yeah, like you can now copyand paste those sticky notes to
different frames.
So yes, sticky notes for the bigwin for Jamboard,
Katie (11:39):
for sure.
Yes.
And so sticky notes andinteractive features.
But then here's the downside tothis interactive part of
Jamboard.
You really are limited to thenumber of active collaborators.
And so if you have, like Iremember doing PD and we
couldn't get past like 18 or 19,maybe 20 people on
Rachel (11:57):
Jamboard.
Yeah, and that's weird becauseif you look up any kind of
documentation about GoogleJamboard, it does say it can
support up to 50 collaborators.
I know.
Katie (12:07):
But I've never been able to get 50 collaborators
Rachel (12:09):
on a Jamboard.
No.
So we did a PD session last weekand we had about 20 people in
our session, and we had a singleJamboard.
I was a little bit worried aboutthat, but it did work with those
good.
I haven't tried it though withlarger groups in quite a while,
so maybe there's betterstability now, I don't
Katie (12:29):
know.
But with slides, like I've neverhad any issues.
I never have a max out issue orpeople not being able to get on
it.
So it, it certainly is morestable in terms of the number of
collaborators you can have onthere.
That
Rachel (12:41):
maybe kind of goes along with Google's initial reason why
they created Jamboard.
It wasn't for us to use itwithout an actual Jamboard.
Katie (12:51):
No, that's true.
It was meant to be similar to asmart board, but Google with
different features.
So it was created for adifferent
Rachel (12:59):
purpose.
Yeah.
So I wonder if that's kind ofwhy the stability is kind of
missing a little bit, because itwasn't something that Google saw
would be super valuable, rightwhen they first started creating
this software.
But now that educators are usingit in very different ways from
probably what they everimagined.
(13:20):
The need is.
The need is there.
Katie (13:22):
Yeah.
I think because we need a W,like some teachers need a
whiteboard, right?
And they need it to be digital.
And so this kind of popped up,you know, in the spring when we
were first, you know, in remotelearning and this was a tool
that allowed you to do a lot ofdigital whiteboard features and
it was approved by our board.
So this is a really big go-to.
And so I think that kind ofspurred, Hey, look at all of
(13:43):
this activity by education,using this tool that we didn't
actually plan for this purpose,but let's go with it.
So I do feel like they areimproving it and, and they are
picking up on what educators aredoing and they're really
receptive to that, which I, Ilike Google's
Rachel (13:56):
pretty good for that.
Now I have one where I thinkthey're kind of tied in terms of
capability and that's being ableto add an image into either
slides or Jamboard.
So going from Google Slides, yougo to insert image and then you
have upload from computers,search the web, your drive
(14:17):
photos.
By URL and camera, and you havethe exact same options in Google
Jamboard when you click on addImage.
So for me, they kind of tie inthis particular area.
Now, one
Katie (14:29):
thing that I do think is a slides win.
There's not an explore featureon Jamboard like there is in
slides.
And so I kind of wish they hadthe explore feature so that you
could do a little bit ofresearch and, and you know, put
some information on a jam, kindof similar to what students
would do in a slide.
Rachel (14:45):
Well, I'm just gonna put that feedback into Google right
now then.
Yeah, it is a shame that theExplore tool is missing.
I think that would be a reallygreat addition to Jamboard for
sure, to be able to look updifferent articles on the web.
Now, what would be really neat,and I know you can do a little
bit of this with.
(15:06):
The, like the iOS and theAndroid version versions of
Jamboard as you can adddifferent files from your drive
and stuff like that.
But wouldn't it be awesome ifyou had the explore tool and you
had a website you wanted tograb, you could just click and
drag and drop it over onto yourJamboard and then interact with
it there.
Yes.
That would be
Katie (15:25):
great.
That would be amazing.
I wish they had more of that andthat kind of fits with their
original purpose of using itsimilar to a smart board.
Right.
So I, I'm, I'm surprised thatthey haven't done that.
And to be honest, I really wishthat they would have the same
features available on the webversion that they do in the
iPad.
Rachel (15:40):
Definitely.
I guess in terms of looking atslides versus Jamboard there,
the features available inJamboard are definitely limited
compared to slides overall, butit's even more limited in
Jamboard in the web-basedversion than it is in the mobile
app versions of Jamboard.
I want the ability to be able toadd a file from my Google Drive
(16:01):
into my Jamboard.
Yeah.
I don't wanna have to have two
Katie (16:04):
devices to be able to do that.
That seems so silly.
Rachel (16:06):
And I tried it a couple weeks back, adding a file from
my drive into the Jamboard andthen trying to access it from
the web-based version.
And it just, they don't talk toeach other at all.
It's just basically an image andI can't do anything with it.
In the web-based version.
That's so interesting
Katie (16:25):
that they can't
Rachel (16:26):
get it to function the same way.
I, I guess it must havesomething to do with the code in
Chrome, right?
Like it, it has to do withsomething where they have to
code it differently for it towork in the web-based version
versus a mobile version.
But still it is a shame.
So the
Katie (16:41):
next feature is the number of slides versus the
number of frames you can
Rachel (16:46):
have.
Oh yeah.
That's a good one.
So
Katie (16:48):
slides, you're kind of unlimited.
So if you want one student tohave a slide and you have a
class of 30, not a problem.
Jamboard, you max out at 20, soyou can't, you'd have to have
two separate jam boards or sharea jam or a
Rachel (17:00):
frame, rather.
Poor Jamboard is getting reallykind of punched here.
Eh?
I
Katie (17:04):
know, I know.
But I feel like, I feel like itwill make a comeback.
Rachel (17:11):
Yeah, I agree that that one is super limiting for
Jamboard, but I think, again, itkind of goes back to the
purposes of the two, right?
Yes.
Slides is really kind oftraditionally meant for
presentations and the fact thatwe use it in so many different
ways and education.
One of the sayings I often hearJake Miller say is, He talks
(17:33):
about the adjacent possible.
And so it's not only like kindof taking that tool, but then
talking to other people andhearing about the ideas that
they use and the different waysthat things can be used.
I'm, I'm not doing him anyjustice in terms of how I'm
explaining it
Katie (17:48):
here.
But that makes sense because youknow, educators, were always
trying to make things fit,right?
We have a limited number ofresources, but we want to do
great things.
And so we're always kind ofcoming up with ideas and
thinking about how we can kindof shift it and change it a bit
and give it a different purpose.
And so it was created as more ofa presentation or lesson style
(18:09):
tool.
But I think educators havereally taken it to the next
level by using it for a varietyof different reasons.
And.
Collaboration, et cetera.
So I feel like that's almostlike just educators trying to
make the most of it withouthaving to spend any more of
their own money on resources.
Rachel (18:26):
It's just, I I think when Google created these tools,
they didn't think about theadjacent possible.
Katie (18:32):
No,
Rachel (18:33):
I don't think so.
No.
So it's, it's really cool.
Like.
Slides was meant as apresentation tool.
So yeah, needing more than 20slides for a presentation makes
a lot of sense, whereas GoogleJamboard was meant for
collaboration on a physicaljamboard.
So do you really need more than20 frames?
You're probably only using acouple of frames if you're doing
(18:53):
sort of these brainstormingtypes of sessions.
So they probably thought 20frames was more than enough.
Agreed.
But
Katie (19:01):
Google, if you're listening, it's not.
Rachel (19:04):
It's totally not.
So going along with those linestoo, Google slides.
Okay.
This is current for now.
Like this is going to change.
So depending on when you'relistening to this episode, but
in Google Slides, you do haveversion history, whereas Google
Jamboard currently you do not.
Although they just announcedthat they.
Are bringing it in.
(19:25):
So currently, if you're using itin education at the moment and
something inappropriate happens,or you have kids deleting stuff
in Jamboard, there's no kind ofreal way for you to figure out
who's doing that.
Whereas in slides you can seeeverything and you can go back
to a certain point in time, oras in Jamboard, you can't
(19:46):
currently.
No, but that is going to change.
So I think once they've addedthat feature into Jamboard,
that's a tie for sure.
And then
Katie (19:53):
another thing that I find is hyperlinking within a slide
versus Jamboard.
Rachel (19:58):
So you can't hyperlink in Jamboard?
No.
I really wish that they wouldbring that in to Jamboard.
Katie (20:04):
I mean, it does go back to purpose.
Like what is the purpose of thatJamboard?
And if it's a collaborativespace, do you need hyperlinks?
I mean, kind of, yes.
If you're brainstorming as agroup and you're.
All finding different websites,but maybe that's not the
Rachel (20:16):
right tool at that point.
I do think that there would bevalue in bringing hyperlinks
into Jamboard, though for sure.
There's been a few instanceswhere we've planned PD sessions
and it's centered around smallgroup collaborations, so it
makes sense to use Jamboard, butthen when you're like, okay, I
wanna share this one resource,Then you kind of need slides to
(20:39):
do the hyperlink or the video orlike any of that sort of stuff.
Right.
So you could share the links inyour Google meet in the chat
window, but then you're, I don'tknow, it's, it's nice to have
everything all in one spot.
Katie (20:52):
Okay.
I have another one that's antiJamboard and
Rachel (20:54):
I don't like it.
I know, because you know,honestly, I really love
Jamboard.
I know.
Same here.
And it sounds like this episode,we really hate Jamboard, but we
don't.
We love
Katie (21:03):
it.
Yeah.
But it's audio.
Audio files.
And same with video, right?
Audio and video files.
It doesn't work
Rachel (21:08):
on Jamboard?
No.
Again, limited features.
Come on, Jamboard, you need tocatch up.
Katie (21:14):
Okay.
But here's a good thing aboutthe limited features.
It's easy
Rachel (21:17):
to use.
It is very, very easy to use.
I will give you that
Katie (21:20):
one.
So I have students, like I havesome students who came from
overseas.
And they didn't even have cellphones in their country.
And so coming here to Canada andgetting inundated with all of
this technology and all of thesetools, slides is pretty
complicated to learn.
There's a lot of differentthings that you have to figure
out and play with and, and youhave to know where to find
features, but Jamboard.
(21:41):
Super simple.
Rachel (21:42):
Yeah.
So maybe that's then a win forJamboard, especially for the
littles.
Like think about the littles ifyou wanna do some kind of
collaborative activity withthem.
It actually makes more sense touse Jamboard because of its
simplicity.
Katie (21:56):
And it's funny because my, my daughter, Learned how to
use Jamboard when, uh, they weredoing some remote learning.
And so she quickly created aJamboard entitled, which pet
should we get?
And then had, and then haddifferent frames saying cat or
dog, and then like, animalversus animal.
And I'm like, Madison, no petsfor you.
(22:21):
But, uh, no, that was kind ofcute.
But that goes to show like she'seight and we really limit tech
time and screen time at home.
So outside of school, shedoesn't use a tablet or a
Chromebook or any of thosethings.
So if she can pick that up thatquickly and figure out how to
add images and share it with me,then um, I think that goes to
show how
Rachel (22:41):
simple it is.
My son is nine.
He actually knows decent use ofGoogle Slides though, but
that's.
Partly because he is in virtualschool this year, but he still
knows probably Jamboard better.
Like Jamboard is super, supersimple for anyone to use.
Whereas with slides, he kind ofkeeps looking over my shoulder
when I'm doing stuff in slides.
(23:01):
So he's like, oh, I didn't knowyou could do that.
And like gets really excitedabout all of these different
things.
But yeah, I think Jamboarddefinitely is.
A big, big win for anyone who isteaching in the elementary
panel.
Yeah.
Now granted then you probablyhave the issues of kids deleting
stuff and moving stuff, andthere's all that kind of digital
(23:23):
citizenship piece that's gonnaneed to go along with it.
But in terms of ease of use,definitely for the elementary
kids.
Katie (23:30):
Okay, so here's another one.
The workspace and slides is hardto get to a good size where you
can actually work with it.
So if you're changing thedimensions, for example, so
sometimes I'll wanna change itto eight and a half by 11 and
make a worksheet or you know, dosomething where I have more
space.
The zoom in and out is reallyawkward, whereas Jamboard, you
can see it.
And it's easy.
(23:51):
I don't know.
I find it easier to use aJamboard in terms of visual
Rachel (23:55):
workspace.
I would agree with that one too.
So if you are, yeah, changingthe page, set up on slides and
then you're trying to go andlook at it, a lot of people
don't even know how to use theZoom tools properly and to zoom
into slides to take a look atit.
So yes, jam board's definitelyeasier to look at, but then you
can't change the dimensions ofyour jam.
Katie (24:17):
As I was saying that, I was like, wait a second, I
shouldn't have said that.
But you're right, you can'tchange the dimensions.
Whereas I can do whatever size Iwant of a slide, right?
Which I don't think many peopleknow.
You can actually change it, thatwhen you're printing it out, it
could be an eight and a half by11.
You can make it into a PDF or animage.
Like there's so many things thatyou can do with slides that
can't be done with
Rachel (24:37):
Jamboard.
So going along with that themetoo, with slides, you can add
stuff to the space around theslide too, which is really,
really nice.
To be able to, and we did thisfor a session that we did with
staff a couple weeks ago wherewe had, we used Google Slides to
record everything that was beingdone in the breakout rooms, but
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then we put the breakout roomnumber off to the side of the
canvas, so we weren't taking upany part of the canvas, but then
they could see which breakoutroom they were in.
And then we also copied animage.
Of the instructions and we hadthe instructions off to the side
in the slides as well.
Nice.
So you can make use of that grayspace around your slides,
(25:22):
whereas you can't in Jamboard.
No, definitely.
And I think that's one that alot of people don't think to use
as well.
Katie (25:28):
So I like adding things to the master slide.
So adding backgrounds or addingtext boxes, et cetera, to the
master.
So that it's permanent, it'smore permanently there and
harder for students to delete.
I
Rachel (25:43):
would agree.
And the fact that you can nowadd that custom background to
Jamboard, like it does act alittle bit like a master slide
and that you can't delete itunless you know that you just
gotta go replace it.
But that's kind of a differentstory.
Right.
But in.
Slides.
Yes, I agree.
I love going into the master.
I'll take a template and usuallyI hate the fonts.
(26:04):
What a surprise.
Shocker, right?
But yeah, so usually I'll hatethe fonts, but you can easily go
into a master and just changethe fonts in that template
super, super quickly, and itapplies it to every slide you
create.
It saves so much time to be ableto do those sort of tweaks or
even the color scheme.
Like if you come across atemplate and you don't like the
(26:26):
color scheme, you can change itdirectly in the master.
There's only six colors in aJamboard that you can use.
So I don't know.
I think definitely slides winson customizability for sure.
And And
Katie (26:39):
features, right?
So in terms of how much you cando inside, Like, there's so much
there, right?
So many features.
You have to learn them, but onceyou know them, it's a
Rachel (26:50):
pretty powerful tool.
Now, I've got one other that'skind of weird for a Google tool
and I, it just kind of poppedinto my head as we're talking
here on slides, you can leavecomments for people, whereas on
Jamboard, There's no ability tocomment anywhere.
I never really thought of that.
No, I never really thought aboutit either, but it's just
something that's kind of poppedinto my head all of a sudden.
(27:12):
So if you
Katie (27:12):
have group work happening on jam boards, you have to
actually speak to the group orsend an email versus being able
to leave a quick comment on aslide.
That they've been working on.
Rachel (27:22):
Or you have to like physically go and put a sticky
note on there and then you wouldhave to say who, who wrote that
sticky note, because there's nokind of authoring that goes on
in terms of that.
So yeah, I thi I think, again,I'm so sorry, Jamboard, but
Google Slides wins on thatbecause you can leave comments
and.
(27:42):
You can have that kind of backand forth conversation without
messing up anything on thecanvas itself.
So I'm gonna go back to
Katie (27:50):
backgrounds again.
I like Jamboard for like thegraph paper, the lined paper,
you know, some of thosebackgrounds that they have built
into
Rachel (27:59):
your options.
I agree with that.
So that is super useful for mathfolks.
Like if you wanted to do areally quick sketch of a graph,
you just need to go grab, likechange and set the background to
graph paper and then just drawright, and then it's easier to
draw as well with the pen tool.
And you can even get straightlines by holding down the shift
(28:20):
key as you draw.
I don't know if you know that,but that's a really kind of neat
one.
And so I would agree it's somuch quicker, so much simpler to
create any kind of graphing oror anything like that with those
tools and those backgrounds inJamboard.
Whereas in slides, you wouldhave to go find a picture of
(28:40):
graph paper first and thenupload it and Yeah.
So it, it's a lot more steps.
Yeah.
The chalkboard background isalso pretty cool in Jamboard, so
if you've ever, if you haven'ttried that before, if you go on
that and then use the white pentool, it looks really cool.
I don't know.
I think it's cuz it's different,right?
Or if you use the yellow pentool, like the colors stand out
(29:02):
really, really nice on the blackbackground.
Yes.
There's some good contrast.
I think that's kind of cool aswell.
I mean, yeah, you could, youcould simulate the same thing on
Google Slides, but we've alreadytalked about that in terms of
the pen tool versus the scribbleand it, it's just not the same.
Jamboard definitely wins for anykind of writing on a slide for
sure.
Okay.
(29:23):
Uh, one more that I have.
That could be a kind of aninteresting debate.
So in slides, if you go toinsert and then diagram, and
again, this is kind of a hiddentool in slides, but there are so
many types of diagrams, likepre-built diagrams that you
could bring in into your slides.
(29:43):
So you can bring in things likea grid, a hierarchy, a timeline,
a process, a relationship, or acycle.
And then in each of thosecategories there's also
different options.
So you can decide how manylevels you can also decide on
from a few preset colors andthen a few different styles.
(30:04):
So I like this for creatingreally quick kind of flow
charts.
Yeah.
Types of diagrams.
And I think it's a very, veryuseful tool.
But I also think that a lot ofthese are not that hard to
recreate.
And Jamboard too.
I agree.
And I think the reason why Ilike the Jamboard maybe a little
(30:24):
bit more, even though they wouldlook prettier in slides, is
because.
You could put stuff on stickynotes, and then it's really easy
to move around the page.
So if you wanted to startcreating a flowchart, but then
you're like, oh, no, wait, thatshouldn't really be there.
It should be somewhere else.
It's easier to manipulate.
Katie (30:42):
So even the timeline.
I like how interactive you canmake a timeline on Jamboard.
So if you do like the actual,like an image of a timeline and
then sticky notes, you know, youcan make it interactive and come
up with that timeline with yourstudents.
So whether it's, you know,you've read a novel or a story
and you wanna talk about plotand talk about the major events,
Or you know, a history class andyou're going through a specific
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unit and you wanna say, okay,let's go over what happened
first in this event.
You know, you can really kind ofget them to brainstorm, put them
all on sticky notes, and then,okay, now let's put it in order.
Let's talk about what happenedfirst.
And I think there's more valueto doing it.
On Jamboard because you can makethat so interactive and easy to
move around.
(31:25):
I think for
Rachel (31:25):
me this is, this is a really good example of taking
both and smashing them together,and I think there's a lot of
value in taking features fromGoogle Slides that you don't
have in Jamboard and creatingstuff in there and then using
them as.
Custom backgrounds in Jamboard,and while they might be a little
(31:45):
bit fuzzy, you still get thatinteractive experience with
Jamboard.
So what I would do is I wouldtake, say one of these timeline
templates, create my template inslides.
Pull off all of the kind ofwriting piece and just put like
the basics that I want to thenbe built on in Google Jamboard.
No, I think
Katie (32:05):
that's great and I think that's where it comes down to
use.
So, you know, we talk about allof these things that Jamboard
doesn't have or isn't quite asgood at, but if I wanna make it
interactive and something thatI'm doing with my students and
everybody's kind of getting asay and we're developing it
together, I love using templatesin Jamboard because then I.
(32:26):
We're actually working togetherin problem solving together, and
I'm not just doing a sit and getlesson, whereas slides, I think
more, if I'm using it as ateacher, it's because I'm
teaching out a lesson and youknow, maybe we'll have some
interactive time with slides,which makes it a great tool.
But I think to be honest,Jamboard has interaction built
into its purpose, and I thinkthat's where.
(32:48):
It really is more useful for meas an educator.
Totally agree.
So I think the lesson here isthey're just different.
So slides is, you know, it's a,it's a tool that Google has had
for a long time, so it has a lotmore features and has improved
over time.
And Jamboard is one that is upand coming for Google, so they
haven't really had a chance tofurther develop it and make it
(33:12):
as powerful as slides.
But I think they're justdifferent.
They have different purposes.
So I think the big question iswhat are your teaching goals and
which one works best?
I
Rachel (33:21):
think that goes with any kind of choice in terms of
technology use though, and wewere talking about this a bit
before we recorded, but youreally do have to start from a
place of what are your goals?
What are your goals forlearning?
What are your goals for yourstudents?
What do they wanna take out ofthat particular activity or
lesson?
And then choose your tool
Katie (33:42):
from there.
Yeah, like don't just go to whatyou're comfortable with and what
you're used to.
I think it's important that youreally do think about your goals
of that lesson or that day and
Rachel (33:52):
that tool.
I think that's actually wherethere's a lot of, I don't know,
gaps in terms of professionallearning.
You know, cuz so much of theprofessional learning, like even
stuff I've run this year hasbeen very much a how-to kind of
session.
I know, but it's missing thatpiece of why, like, why are you
doing this?
Why do you wanna use this?
(34:12):
Tool and what are you gettingfrom it?
And it's tough
Katie (34:15):
because this year is, well, it's crazy, right?
Like we're in a totallydifferent teaching system,
hybrid quad masters switching toall remote.
And so I feel like everyone iskind of just in survival mode
and just trying to absorb asmuch as they can as to how to
use tools, but not really readyfor that next step of why and
how do I choose the best toolfor
Rachel (34:38):
what I'm doing?
I think one of my big worriesfor.
This is, you know, a lot ofteachers are learning these
tools and using them this yearin terms of surviving, right?
And being able to survive inthis kind of virtual, hybrid,
whatever, teaching world.
But then once things go back tonormal, like pre C O V I D, kind
of normal, that it's all justgonna go back to the way it was
(35:01):
where technology is notsomething that gets used and is
just kind of shoved into acorner and they're just gonna go
back to whatever was
Katie (35:08):
comfortable.
I think yes and no.
So there are some ways that yes,I might go back to less
technology, like for some of myreading assessments.
And you know, for my ELLs, Ireally like it when they're
writing by hand on paper, when Iwant a diagnostic or an
assessment that I can kind oftrack where they're at.
But in some ways, You know, Ihave taken out of this year so
(35:30):
much about building communityand some of these fun activities
that we do digitally.
It's actually been really greatand you know, my class, like
they're so happy, they're somuch happier because they get to
know the students in their classmore.
They get to know me a lot more.
It's more personal.
And so I think in a lot of ways,We're gonna take the things that
worked really well and continue,and then the things where, you
(35:53):
know, this was survival and itwasn't the best, it wasn't
ideal.
You know, maybe I'll continue tobuild those skills with my
students anyhow, because trustme, I learned the hard way.
Then I need to teach my, mystudents how to use technology.
Right?
When we first went digital lastyear, And I was teaching
students with, you know, minimalliteracy in their first language
and very little English.
I didn't focus on technology assomething I had to teach because
(36:16):
I was really trying to get themcommunicating in English and
understanding more of the worldaround them in the classroom and
in school.
And I learned that lesson thehard way that I kind of failed
them in that respect.
So in some ways I think we'regoing to take the technology and
the things that really workedwell and go with it, but I think
teachers are also going to beopen more.
To a bunch of these tools thatare really improving and have
(36:39):
potential in their, in theirclassroom.
Yeah, I guess we'll see.
So I think time will tell thosewho hate technology will
probably kind of let go of it abit, but I'm hoping that we'll
be pleasantly surprised.
It
Rachel (36:49):
almost seems a bit wishy washy, right?
That we're kind of ending on anote where, well, you gotta pick
the right tool for the rightjob.
Katie (36:58):
Okay.
So if you want me to choose.
In terms of my teachingpractice, if I had to choose
only one of those tools, I wouldpick Jamboard.
It's not as powerful, and itmight not have the same
features, but I could substitutesomething out instead of slides.
Whereas in Jamboard, I reallylike the interaction and I like
the power that that has.
For a lesson in my classroom.
(37:18):
Interesting.
I think I've surprised you.
Rachel (37:22):
You have surprised me.
But it does make sense from ateaching perspective.
Now I'm thinking as a coach,which one I would prefer, I
think in terms of the kind ofwork that I need to do,
presenting a lot of professionallearning and different
opportunities there.
While it pains me to say thisbecause I absolutely love
Jamboard, I think I would haveto give it to Google Slides.
Katie (37:45):
No, that makes sense.
Like when I deliver pd, I useslides.
I don't use Jamboard, but for meas an educator, like as a
teacher, like with students, Ithink I like Jamboard more.
It really gets kids talking.
Rachel (37:56):
Now, for me it depends.
I like using both together inprofessional learning.
So if I'm presentinginformation, it makes sense to
use slides using Jamboard topresent information.
You can't even get it into apresenter view.
So, you know, there, there'skind of that piece.
But then if we're doing.
Any K, anything kind ofinteractive, any kind of
(38:17):
brainstorming, anything likethat?
Y you gotta go Jamboard, but Iguess, I guess if we don't wanna
sit on the fence and we have topick one tool, I would say for
coaches and anyone sort of atthat level in their district
slides is kind of your go-to.
That makes sense to me.
It's so sad to say
Katie (38:35):
that though, and the fact that it's sad for you to say
that tells me how you reallyfeel about Jamboard.
I can't believe that we disagree
Rachel (38:45):
though.
Yeah, that's that's prettyimpressive.
I know.
I think if Google got ontoJamboard and added a few more of
those features, I.
It would definitely change evenfor a coaching perspective.
And I would say even if I, it,it depends.
If I'm doing larger professionallearning, larger sessions, then
slides make sense.
But if I'm doing one-to-onecoaching, Jamboard absolutely
(39:08):
makes sense.
No, definitely.
So again, it's, it's going backto those goals and what you
wanna achieve in whatever you'redoing.
No, it's true.
Anyway, we would love to knowwhat you think.
So are you team Google Slides orare you Team Jamboard?
If you would like to weigh in onthis conversation, we would love
(39:29):
to hear it.
So you could go onto ourflipgrid at edu
gals.com/flipgrid, or you couldleave us a message on our
website at edu gals do com andlet us know which one are you.
And to access
Katie (39:42):
our show notes because as always, we will have some show
notes for you to follow alongwith our arguments.
You can access that@edugals.comslash 42.
That's edu G A L s.com/ 42.
Rachel (39:55):
And if you have a colleague or friend who would
really benefit from our episode,we would love it if you would
share it with someone and getinto the debate with them.
On whether they like slides orJamboard better.
I think this is, I don't know,it's kind of a hot topic.
It's contentious, so we would,uh, we would love it if you
shared it out and started thatdebate.
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