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January 30, 2025 60 mins

Emotions run high in the ongoing discussion around U.S. deportation policies and the complex relationship with Mexico. Highlighting personal anecdotes, celebrities' reactions, and historical comparisons, the episode navigates through the moral landscape of immigration, urging listeners to confront both emotional sentiments and factual realities. 

• Personal travel experiences lead to discussions on immigration 
• Celebrity reactions spark intense discussions about deportations 
• Analysis of federal actions on deportation policies 
• Divisive public sentiment on justice versus compassion 
• Exploration of the recovery of missing children during deportations 
• Historical comparisons and their implications on current narratives 
• Frustration with emotional responses overshadowing factual discussions 
• The importance of civil discourse in the immigration debate

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, hey there what's happening, buddy.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Hey, back after a week off.
You're back from Mexico.
I am back from Las Vegas afterbeing surrounded by 50,000
patriots for a whole week, soyou good Trip was good.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Well, you know it was a trip, clay.
It was a trip.
I can't laugh, I said beforeI'm going to try really hard not
to laugh because I startcoughing, which tells you that I
was sick for vacation.
We were both sick for theentire time.
It was a very.
It was a rough experience andpar for the course for my Mexico
experiences, for my Mexicoexperiences.

(01:03):
So I think Mexico and I havebroken up officially for good,
which I don't think they'regoing to miss me, but that's
okay.
Yeah, yeah, no.
It was pretty much a disasterfor us, so I hope yours was much
better.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Mine was a good trip, but you know what?
I think the United States mightbe breaking up with Mexico.
Yes, we will talk about thatand a bunch of other stuff right
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Oh my goodness.
Well, you know this wholeMexico thing.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
It's not just Mexico.
They just have to befacilitating it, because
everything traffics through them.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yes, yes, exactly, and oh my goodness.
So, my whole thing aside,everybody's up in arms, at least
on the left, I mean over on theright.
We're feeling pretty good,we're pretty chill about this
whole experience.
And let me just give in caseyou missed it.

(02:43):
You know, here is probably likethe, the encapsulation of the
leftist meltdown about thesedeportations.
Here you go.
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
All my people are getting attacked the children.
I don't understand.
I'm so sorry.
I wish I could do something,but I can't understand.
I'm so sorry.
I wish I could do something,but I can't.
I don't know what to do.
I'll try everything, I promise.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I don't.
You know that's Selena Gomez.
She's an actress, singer.
I don't know what else does Iknow those are the two things
that she does.
I like her as an actress.
I watch the show she's on.
She's on Only Murders in theBuilding with the two older guys

(03:41):
, martin Short and Steve Martin.
Yeah, yes, she seems like a verysweet girl.
This was so unhinged she tookthis down almost immediately.
There was the backlash on.
This was huge and correct.
Like to be having this kind ofmeltdown over the people who are

(04:03):
being deported which is, by theway, criminals, straight up
criminals, yep.
And you know.
And, of course, the responseswere did you, did you cry for
Lake and Riley?
Did you cry for, you know, allof these people who have been
victimized by these illegalaliens?
The answer, of course, is no,you did not.

(04:23):
So take this down.
You're being a fool right now,and you know, and this is pretty
um emblematic of of the leftright, now.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, this is I mean.
So for for all of you out there, it is Wednesday.
It is 4 PM, a little after 4 PMon Wednesday, easternnesday,
eastern standard time.
Um, so, appropriately enough,the lake and riley bill was
signed by president trump today,today, yes.
So you know selena gomez andher reaction.
You could ask all the rightquestions did she, did she cry?

(04:57):
Was she crying for lake andriley?
And and you know the victimslike her, you know, did she did
she?
Did she feel bad, like there's?
there's so many things you couldask about this Right, but the
reality is is that there has yetto be that I know of a raid on
a school which people are up inarms about.
There was a reported one in thecity of Chicago that turned out

(05:19):
to be a bad reporting.
It was not a, it was not aschool raid, it wasn't had
nothing to do with immigration,it had to do with criminality.
But that's who you said itbefore.
That's who ICE is going afterFor this entire first wave.
It is the high-end, violent,probably, or often gang-related

(05:40):
criminals who have beenparticipating in human
trafficking, drug trafficking,child trafficking, you know,
violent crime that they haveeither been arrested and
released or convicted of.
And so ICE is going around withKristi Noem in body armor
running around with him.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
I love that, I love it.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
You know, picking up the known offenders, yeah,
consolidating them, putting themon planes by country and
sending their ass back home yep,yep, columbia, thought they
were going to say no, thank youyeah, columbia was wrong.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, yes, that was what was.
What was that?
That was uh all done andexecuted, uh, executed between,
like, the fourth and eighth hole.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
I think that, yes, that was the best story was that
Columbia refused.
You know, I think PresidentTrump was on the fourth hole on
Sunday.
Yes, columbia refused.
He responded with you know,that's fine, that's fine, you
can refuse him, we're just goingto tear the crap out of you,
we're going to pull your imports, we're not going to, you know.
And he put a whole bunch offinancial, you know constraints

(06:44):
on the nation of Columbia.
And then, immediately, thepresident, by the eighth hole,
you know, the president ofColumbia turned around and said
not only will we take them, butwe will refuel your planes when
they land.
And so you know the purse, youknow it matters, it matters.

(07:05):
You know the purse stringsmatter, the finance and money
matters.
And and president trump, as thebusinessman that he is, is
using, you know, financialrestrictions, tariffs and other
things, right, no financialmeans to make this happen, right
which they insisted.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
They, being those on the left, insisted.
That's going to backfire there.
It's going to blow up in yourface.
It's going to ruin everythingfor us.
You're going to destroyeverything.
No, no, money talks.
Money always talks.
It's that simple.
And why?
Nobody is getting that and Idon't really believe that
they're not getting that.
They're just riling people up.
They're riling the you know theeasily deceived that the

(07:39):
gullible um minions of the leftthey're.
They're riling them up.
They're getting them, which iswhat they've always done.
This is the MO that has beengoing on since time began that
the elites wind up the minionsbecause they don't know any
better and they're so trustingand they believe everything that
they're told and instead ofjust saying, hang on a second,

(08:02):
let me just see how this playsout first, they're like my God,
this guy is falling.
Not for us, maybe for them, butnot for us.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
So yeah, so, you know , the president of Columbia was
doing a little bit of saberrattling, he was doing a little
bit of, you know, trying to showstrength in front of his own
nation, his own supporters, and,you know, and ended up looking
a fool, right, you know, and andended up looking a fool, right.
So you know, pardon me that youknow that's a lesson that the

(08:31):
entire world took note of, likeeverybody in the Southern
hemisphere watch that.
Everybody South of you know theRio Grande river, watch that
and said, okay, well, this,that's not going to work.
So, you, you know, and it'sgoing to continue to move.
I think there was more flights,uh, today, venezuela, and I
think, um, somewhere else,guatemala, I think.

(08:51):
So, as soon as they're packingthem up, as soon as they've got
a flight full, and it's it's theair force that's flying them,
um, I can promise you they'vegot security on those aircraft.
Uh, for those, I, you know, Ithought the the same thing.
I'm like man, I would not wantto be the air crew loadmaster on
that C-17 flying wherever, butthey do have security on board.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
And there were threats from you know were they
credible threats?
I don't actually know, butthere were threats that Mexican
cartels were threatening toshoot down any planes that you
know Kimber was like really,really, yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
So you know that, and part of this is that president
Trump has declared, you know,ms-13, trend Agua, you know
these, these cartels, sinaloacartel.
He's declared the gang, thedrug gangs, the international
gangs and the cartels asinternational terrorist
organizations, which allows ourmilitary to act Right.
So you know, the first timethat pick your cartel out of

(09:47):
Mexico, decides to even playaround and take ground, fire,
you know, at a passing militaryaircraft, the response is going
to be significant.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
And it's going to be brutal.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
That is the poster, the neon sign of FAFO.
Yeah, absolutely, and it'sgoing to be brutal that that is
the the poster, the neon sign ofFAFO.
Yeah, Right, I mean that isneon letters, bold as can be and
, um, you know, it's certainlyone of those moments that
everybody's sitting around goes.
Before Trump did this, beforeit it started, you know,
everyone was saying and probablyeven people on the right like
how is he going to?

(10:24):
Can't do this that fast.
There's so much red tape,there's so much paperwork.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
He's like it's done, it's done so I mean it tells you
, as they round up literallythousands of these people, that
the department of justice knewwhere they were the whole time,
the whole time, the whole time.
Yes, exactly where they were,because all they did was they
pulled up their address list andthey started running raids, and
that's what they've been doing.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
And they've recovered a very significant number of
missing children too, correctyeah?

Speaker 3 (10:54):
So, out of the 300,000 estimated, I think the
last number I saw was they haverecovered somewhere in the
neighborhood of 25,000 plus ofthese children that have been
missing.
You know, as part of this.
So good is coming out of thisas well, so much good.
But you know I wrote a blogabout this today.

(11:15):
I know you reposted on Facebookand I appreciate it, but
there's been, along with whatyou were talking about, with the
left, the crying.
You know all the you knowSelena Gomez's of the world, who
you know.
This is horrible, this is this,this is that one.
I wrote a blog today and theone that irritates me the most
is that people are comparingthis, the deportation process,
to the Holocaust, which is yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
I'm so glad you wrote that, that post, guys, if you,
if you haven't yet, go check itout on Clay's site or on my page
as well.
It's, it's up and it's a shortread and so worth the read.
Because what you talked aboutreally we're all sick of it.
We're all sick and tired ofthese baseless parallels and
comparisons that the left makes.

(11:55):
You know, if you do this ordon't do that, or you say this
or you don't say that, you'reyou know all of the things
you're a racist, you're a bigot,you're this, you're that.
And that one in particular isprobably one of the most
disgusting and offensive thingsthat you could possibly make a
comparison to you know yeah, Imean, these are.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
These are not the innocent Jews living in Germany
and Austria, you know, andEastern Europe all over.
You know, in the 40s, duringWorld War Two, that were rounded
up Eastern Europe all over.
You know, in the forties,during World War II, that were
rounded up, taking aconcentration in work camps,
that were tattooed, that weretortured, that were experimented
on and then eventually murdered, you know, in ovens and gas
chambers and all those horrificthings that happened.

(12:35):
That's not what this is.
This is not innocent people.
Again, we've been talking aboutthis.
They're violent criminals.
They are drug traffickers orhuman traffickers.
They're child traffickers,they're rapists, they are
murderers.
They have been at leastarrested for, if not convicted
of, violent crimes againsteither American citizens or
other immigrants, and they'rebeing sent back to their nation

(12:58):
of origin.
This is not the Holocaust.
I can't say that loud enough.
And if you, those of you thatare making that comparison, or
if you know people are makingthat comparison, that is the
most.
You said it it's disgraceful,it's offensive, it's bordering
on anti-Semitic, because you are, you are, you know, making what

(13:19):
happened to the entire Jewishpopulation of Germany and
Eastern Europe in the forties.
You are delegitimizing theHolocaust by making such a low
level comparison.
It's disgusting.
The only and I said this in theblog the only two things that
are similar is one some familieshave the potential to be
getting broken apart.
I understand that, but you knowwhat?

(13:39):
When you go to jail as acriminal, your family gets
broken apart too.
So if you're a criminal,whether you get deported or sent
to jail, you're still separatedfrom your family.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
So that's a null and void, and that's why, because of
your own actions, your ownchoices in life, not anything is
being done to you.
You did this.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
So you know, I'm sad for children.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I'm sad for families.
Of course it is heartbreaking tosee a legitimate family going
through legitimate strife andupheaval, all of those things
that would tug at any human'sheartstrings.
But you know there is a pointwhere you draw that line and you
know and if you are someonelike me, which I represent
millions of people across thiscountry who are the children and

(14:23):
grandchildren of legalimmigrants, and there is I'm
sorry and I'm sure somebody willdisagree with me, but there is
nothing more offensive.
I would think to a legalimmigrant who did it the hard
way, who went through the properchannels and the steps that you
have to do to become citizensof this country that they came
to because they love thiscountry and want a better life,

(14:45):
unlike these criminals anddegenerates and scumbags.
You know, to tell them well,sucks to be you.
These guys cut the line and wedon't know anything about them.
They're not vetted, you know,but we're going to give them all
of the things that you workedyour ass off for to be a part of
this country and to be acontributing member of this
country.
So you know it makes my bloodboil.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
And what people are getting hung up on is is the act
of a government agency roundingthese people up for deportation
, right?
So what they're saying is ourdepartment of justice, the, you
know, the BPS ice, these peoplethat are doing this FBI,
whoever's participating, are thenew equivalent to the SS Right.
That's what they're saying.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yes, of course that's what they're saying.
They disregard, they'veconveniently forgotten Obama.
I got the tape.
I'll pull them all up.
I'll throw them all up on here.
Obama, kamala and who am I?
Hillary, all three.
I mean just right off the top.
I've got three for you, rightoff the top, where they talked
about getting them out of here.
If you've broken the law, ifyou're here illegally, get out.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
You're going, you can go back and you, as a, you know
, second generation daughter ofCuba, right, ileane Gonzalez for
those that are old enough toremember right, there's that
iconic photo of FBI I don't know, but he did an attack here
reaching out right, submachinegun in hand and grabbing a

(16:15):
seven-year-old boy.
So, you know, the same peoplethat are, you know, crying about
this, supported it underdifferent administrations and
it's just absurd.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
It is and that's it in a nutshell, Clay, it's not
what's being done, it's who'sdoing it right.
Because if this was Biden done,it's who's doing it Right.
Because if this was Biden, ifthis was Clinton, if this was.
Kamala if this was Obama, they'dbe all for it, they'd be
applauding.
So you know, don't get ittwisted, folks.
We all know what it's all aboutand the difference now and

(16:45):
before is that none of us aretaking it anymore.
We're not sitting quietly,we're not getting gas lit, and I
think that's the biggest thingright now, that the gaslighting
days are done and we are goingto throw it right back in your
face 10 times harder.
You have one thing and, as youknow, my favorite, one of my
favorite clay quotes is theinternet is forever right.

(17:06):
You can pull it all up in twoseconds and it's on them.
You know, if you don't want tosee it, if you don't want to
believe what you're seeing,that's an on you.
I'm not going to be my problem,but I've got it for you.
Here it is.
You don't like it?
Too damn bad, because this iswhere we're at now.
And, by the way, it's prettymuch your fault that we got here
because you didn't do whatyou're supposed to do.

(17:27):
You went way too far over andnow we're course correcting.
So suck it up, because you gotthis four years at least.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
And it's, and it's interesting because you're
seeing two citizens and even themedia in some, some cases, you
know, going head to head withthe Gavin Newsoms and the JB
Pritzkers, and and and folks.
There was that press conferencewith governor Pritzker,
illinois, saying you know, we'regoing to do it, we're not going
to, we're going to fightagainst Trump or this or that.
Oh, by the way, we're OK withcriminals being deported, but

(17:57):
everybody else, we're going toprotect them.
Yeah, you know, and he keepsreferring to, we protect the
residents of the state ofIllinois, not the citizens of
the United States, right, so?
But you've got people, you know,striking back at him and asking
that exact question Well, who'spaying for this and why are the
citizens footing the bill?
And so, you're right, peopleare tired of it, they're not

(18:20):
going to take it anymore,they're not going to be guilted
into being OK with it or, moreimportantly, being silent.
So I think you're going to seebacklash, especially next voting
cycle, for those that don'tcooperate, and it's going to
last a while.
These raids are not going tostop.
You know, tom Homan, god lovehim.
Yeah, he's been on top of thisand he said it himself.

(18:43):
He's like look, we're going towork our way down the list.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, and I love his responses to you.
Know everyone, I think it wasKatie Hobbs.
Yeah, Arizona Governor KatieHobbs Responses to you.
Know everyone that I think itwas Katie Hobbs?
Yeah, Arizona governor KatieHobbs.
So she's not going to allow TomHolman to conduct mass
deportations in Arizona.
She's not going to allow him todo it.
Good luck, honey, Good luck.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, that's not how it works.
Yeah, pritzker said the samething.
Yeah, and somebody asked himflat out if he was prepared to
go to jail.
You know, in defense of that,which he didn't answer that
question, surprise surprise yeah.
So we'll see how it plays out.
There's a lot of people talkingtough right now.
You know, again President Trump, even against the states, or

(19:24):
really against the governors ofstates and cities, mayors of
cities, will use the purse topunish.
He will Fine Governor, youdon't?
You know you don't want tocooperate.
Maintain your own roads.
I guess you don't.
You know you don't want tocooperate.
Maintain your own roads, likeyou're not going to get federal.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
I guess you don't need that federal funding, right
?
You don't want it that bad.
I guess that's fine.
You don't want to play by therules?
Don't go for it.
Do what you got to do, but youknow they'll get out of office.
Yeah, exactly, be ready for theconsequence of your own
constituents telling you you gotto go.
You're not speaking for us and,by the way, that's your
freaking job.
Your job is to do what we wantyou to do, not what you want to

(19:55):
do.
So, yeah, what was the other?
There was another one.
I don't know if that was justtoday or if that even happened
yet.
So Trump says to sign executiveorder to deport anti-Semitic
foreign students and protesters.
That's long overdue.
Get them the hell out of there.
Bye, you're not here onanybody's dime.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, I mean we're.
You know we're focusing mostlybecause that's what's been
reported and that's what OJ hasbeen doing on, you know, the
violent offenders from Centraland South America, you know from
Mexico and et cetera.
But there's, you know, I read astory today that there are
massive boats full of Chinesehitting the shores of Florida.
You know that are that are aproblem.
We've got students on studentvisas being very, you know,

(20:38):
truthfully, saying a lot of verydangerous things on American
soil.
Get them out of here.
It's the same thing, like yourfreedom of speech.
You're not a U S citizen, soyou're not protected by our
constitution as much as peoplewould like you to be.
You're not.
So when you step out of line,the recourse is pull the visa,
go home, and that's it andthat's why nobody's forcing you

(20:59):
to be here.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Go.
You hate it here.
You hate what we represent.
You know and that's and I justsaw something yesterday, it was,
um, I was probably on X, andit's you know all these
countries, and in every singleone of these countries they're
having, of course, their ralliesand their marches and all of
these things, and for eachcountry they're saying the same
thing, whether, if it'sAustralia, it's death to

(21:20):
Australia.
If it's America, death toAmerica.
If it's Europe, death to Europe.
This is the pattern.
They want destruction.
They want absolute chaos anddestruction of wherever they're
at.
And there is only one answer toit, which is get out, go back
to where you came from, noquestions asked.
We're not.
We don't have to have aconversation about it.

(21:41):
You're just gone.
You're not from here.
Go.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
Yep, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
No, I have, I have.
No, I have zero sympathy,anything, I don't have an ounce
of it.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yeah, you're a guest.
Sympathy, anything I I don'thave an ounce of it.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, you're a guest, act like a guest.
Yep, yep, that's right.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Use your manners, say please and thank you, but we
talked about christy noem rightrunning around in body armor and
a baseball hat and going on iceraid.
So she's one of the the earlyconfirmed yes, yes, we've got
some great confirmations In fact, we just had one as we were
talking.
Lee Zeldin just got confirmedfor EPA.
That's awesome, so we can addhim to the list.

(22:19):
Nice, so who are you tracking?
Yep, so okay.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
So so far we have Transportation Secretary Sean
Duffy, If anybody is inclined tocare.
It was 77 yes 22 no.
Treasury Secretary Scott Besant68 yes, 29 no.
Homeland Security, of course,as you said, Kristi Noem 59 yes,
34 no for her, yes, Fifty no.

(22:44):
The tiebreaker done by our guyJD, that was pretty awesome.
Way too close for comfort,though.
Cia Director John RatcliffeSeventy four yes, Twenty five no
.
Secretary of State Marco RubioNinety nine yes, Zero no.

(23:04):
And then who did you say Lee?

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Lee Zeldin.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Oh, there he is, ok yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Just got confirmed while we were, while we were on.
Um, you know um, well, we cansave uh, cause I know what we're
going to talk about later.
But uh, you know, Rubio is asurprise.
Not that he got confirmed, buthe got confirmed so easily.
Yes, um, you know, we'll.
We'll say the CIA for last,though, um, but uh, um, you know

(23:30):
um, christine Noemem's been.
She's been working like shehasn't stepped foot in South
Dakota since she got confirmed.
I guarantee that she probablyhave time to pack her clothes.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
I'm sure, I'm sure she she's been boots on the
ground immediately.
I think she's been working.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah, and for those of you that don't know, duffy,
the transportation secretary whotook over for old Pistol Pete
Buttigieg, sean Duffy, do youknow where he came from?
Do you know where he started?
No, so back in the old days ofreality TV, when reality TV was
the real world, yeah, oh my gosh.
So he was married to RachelCampos Duffy from Fox News.

(24:06):
Oh, I did not know that theyboth they met on the real world
on MTV years and years ago.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
I actually remember this, now that you're saying it,
right.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
So they got married.
He was a politician from, Ithink, Minnesota, but he was
also like a competitivelumberjack or something like
that.
Like that was his real worldclaim to fame thing.
But they've been married foryears and have a bunch of kids
and all that.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
It took me way back, yeah, but he's always kind of
yeah, he's always stuck in thepolitics, even after his time.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Again, I think it was Minnesota, but yeah, so he got
brought in as the as thesecretary of transportation.
Listen, anybody would be anupgrade from what we had.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
So you are kidding?
That's a great one.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Let's see.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Of course, we know, we have Bobby Kennedy going on
right now.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
That is highly contentious and you know rough,
Pam Bondi.
We're waiting on that.
Should be by tomorrow, Is thatright?

Speaker 3 (25:02):
I think.
So she's on the block this week.
Gabbert is on the block thisweek.
Yes, so that one is interestingin the way that they're talking
about voting and I don'tunderstand this.
So I I mean I'm going to kindof lay what I understand to be
true out and then we'll have tofigure out the why.
I mean so she's the DNI right,the director of national
intelligence, which means thatall the intelligence agencies

(25:23):
fall under her, including a lotof the military intelligence
agencies that exist.
They're talking about votingfor her confirmation in a, in a
in a top secret, in a SCIF,which is a secret
compartmentalized informationfacility, so behind closed doors

(25:43):
, in a vault, which makesabsolutely no sense.
So the vote would be hiddenfrom the United States public
and because it happens inside afacility like that, it
automatically becomes classified.
So it's very weird that that'seven being considered.
I don't understand it and I'mskeptical of the why, like who
proposed it, why it's being donethat way?

(26:04):
Because nobody else is beingdone that way.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Right, yeah, I mean, as an American citizen who has a
right to know, I feel likethat's an automatic hell.
No, you're not doing that.
So I yeah, I, I have no idea.
If anybody has any insights onthat, please drop it in the
comments, because I'm I ambefuddled.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah, I don't get that one at all and I've spent
some time in some skiffs anddone some classified stuff, but
that just the vote for her to beconfirmed makes no sense
whatsoever.
No, absolutely none, no.
Now, if they were going tointerview her and they wanted to
speak in terms of classifiedinformation specifics of
classified information, not ingeneralities then maybe they

(26:41):
would have to move the interviewportion right Her testimony to
a secret facility, but thevoting portion of it should not
be classified at all.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Definitely not.
No, I want to know exactly whovoted Exactly and what they
voted, and we have a right toknow that and I agree with you.
That makes perfect sense.
If it was the interview andthey were discussing classified
information, totally fine withthat, no worries whatsoever.
But no, I want to know exactlywho voted what, and I'll tell
you who's all fired up.

(27:10):
Nicole.
Is that her first name?
Shanahan?

Speaker 3 (27:16):
uh, bobby kennedy's uh, former running mate there
she was threatening all kinds ofpeople today, if he doesn't get
confirmed, political warfareand like all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, she's going all worked up yes, she's gone hard
and she's got the money to do it.
A girl's a billionaire, soshe's got the money and she's
she's.
She said that's not even.
This isn't uh uh said I thinkit's not a promise, it's a
threat, like, take it as thethreat that it is.
I'm coming for your title, I'mcoming for your position and
you're going to be the hell outand I'm going to make sure it
happens.
So I hope she wields that kindof power because I really

(27:46):
strongly I never would havethought I would be so strongly
for Bobby Kennedy on something,but I am so strongly for this
man in this position.
I'm going to show a little clipand this is just, you know, one
very small part of my why.
Here it is.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
Youth are now on Adderall or some other ADHD
medication.
Even higher percentages are onSSRIs and benzos.
We are not just over-medicatingour children, we're
over-medicating our entirepopulation.
Half the pharmaceutical drugson earth are now sold here.
70% of the profits frompharmaceutical companies are
from the United States, eventhough we only have 4.2% of the

(28:26):
world's population.
Not only that, but a recentstudy by Cochrane Collaboration
founder Peter Gososh found thatpharmaceutical drugs are the
third largest cause of death inour country, after heart attacks
and cancers.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Pharmaceutical drugs are the third leading killer of
American citizens.
And you know, all of thesepeople that are against him,
that are fighting tooth and nailagainst him.
Every damn one of them is inbig pharma's pocket.
Oh yeah, and that is a problem.
Yep, and that's why they'refighting him so hard, because

(29:05):
their wallets are about to gethit really hard and it's not a,
it's not a philosophicaldifference they have with them.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
No, it's, you know.
And if it, and if it was, itwould be hard for anyone to
justify being less healthy inAmerica.
Right, you know.
So everything that you know.
But Robert Kennedy jr Is doingis trying to make America
healthy.
Right, we've all seen the Maharight, mahagaha, whatever.
So I mean, that is his goal andit is about lessening

(29:37):
unnecessary medications,lessening unnecessary vaccines.
Right, he's not anti-vax, he'snot anti-vax.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
That is the biggest misconception.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yep, and they went after him today about it
multiple times.
Yep.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
They keep calling him anti-vaxxer because, you know,
of course they got to get theirtheir sound bite out.
You know anti-vaxxer and he isnot an anti-vaxxer he's.
He's for logical, practicalthings and, and you know, doing
things properly Yep, that'ssimple and and you know cleaning
up the additives in our foods.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
You know cleaning up, you know dietary
recommendations.
You know all of those things.
It's about leading a healthierlifestyle and, truthfully,
taking a lot of the governmentregulation down.
So you know the amount ofpreservatives that are in foods,
the amount of additives thatare in foods, and and you know
chemicals that are in foodsversus natural ingredients.
Right, that's always what he'sbeen about and that's why

(30:29):
president Trump has nominatedhim for this very specific role,
with very good goalposts onwhat he is and isn't allowed to
get in the middle of.
I thought it was veryinteresting because one of the
people conducting the interviewtoday asked him if he was a
conspiracy theorist the son ofBobby Kennedy, the nephew of JFK
.
They asked if he was aconspiracy theorist and he

(30:52):
should have.
I wish he would have.
He should have lashed back atthem with something referencing
his father and his uncle and thefact that you know, president
Trump just released all of thedata from the investigations of
their murders.
Right and how, how conspiracyhas been, you know, generated by
the United States government.
He didn't because he's classierthan I am, but I wish he would

(31:18):
have.
So that was.
You know he's been getting beatup, but I think he's.
My guess is he's going to makeit through and it may have to be
another 51 vote by VicePresident Vance, just like he
did for Pete Hegseth.
And listen, folks, I'm going tosay this.
I said it before, I'm going tosay it again.
I was not in favor of him as anominee.
However, he has now beenconfirmed as the Secretary of
Defense.
I am on his team.

(31:39):
I want him to be successful.
I want Department of Defense tobe back on top, where it should
be, and our military being thestrongest in the world, which
currently it is not.
And I think that you know thethings that they are doing in
immediacy removal of the DEIprograms and all of those things
you know.
Secretary Hegseth is on theright path already.

(32:01):
Yeah, I applaud him for whathe's doing.
I also applaud him.
People are going to think thatthis is minimal, but in his very
first day on the job, was hewas giving his speech, he
referenced Fort Benning and FortBragg yes, which are both near
and dear to my heart, and bytheir names before the change
documents.
So, and he's an infantryman,you know, he got trained in the

(32:22):
same place as I did and and so Ithink you know it wasn't a slip
of the tongue, it was veryintentional.
I have a feeling that thosevery much like Mount McKinley is
going to go back to MountMcKinley.
I think those installations aregoing to be returned to their
former naming conventions andit's going to cost a little bit
of money and some people arguethat it's a waste and you know
what, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
No, don't care, that's okay.
They're saving lots of money inother places.
Thanks to Doge, they sure are,they are saving so much money.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Not all that fat.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
But the interesting thing that he did do that we
can't walk away from is what gotreleased today, what they're
doing with General Milley.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Oh, yes, yeah.
What are your thoughts on that?
Yeah, so General.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Milley.
Within hours of theinauguration, his portrait as
the chairman of the Joint Chiefsof Staff was removed from the
hallway in the Pentagon.
Yes, Just yesterday hisportrait as the Army Chief of
Staff was also removed from thathallway.
And now his security clearancehas been revoked, His security

(33:23):
detail, which was put in placeafter Soleimani and some other
military operations, hissecurity detail has been removed
and there is a discussion thatSecretary Hegseth is going to
enact or emplace a board toreview General Milley's conduct
as the chairman, which has thepotential to lead into a review

(33:48):
board of sorts.
And there is discussion oflowering him to Lieutenant
General or three star, uh, whichwould be the last known rank
where he faithfully served.
Now, do I think that that'sgoing to happen?
Uh, do I think there's going tobe a reduction in rank?
No, I don't, Um, why not?
Why not?
Um?
Because it's you know, I got it.

(34:10):
It's Bob Woodward.
You know.
That's what a lot of this iscoming from.
Is Bob Woodward's book where hesaid Milley admitted to me that
he thought, you know, Trump wasa fascist and that he called
his Chinese counterpart and blah, blah, blah, blah, Um, I don't.
If they're going to do a reviewboard on him.
That is going to go to court,martial, which is essentially
what it would take to reduce himto three star.

(34:31):
You're talking treason.
So there would be a criminaltrial.
That would have to happen, andI don't think there's enough
there for a treason charge.
I don't even know if there'senough there for a conduct,
unbecoming discussion, et cetera.
So I don't think that's goingto happen.
But what I think is going tohappen is that when generals

(34:52):
retire, many of them end up onboard of directors for, you know
, defense corporations of allsorts, and I think in General
Milley is that guy that he willbe persona non grata and any
defense company that has him onthe board actually any company
that has him on their board ofdirectors will never get a
government contract yeah, Never.

(35:13):
So he will be as good as done.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
No matter what, he's as good as done.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah, He'll be a cancer in the industry.
He'll never get on a board.
You know they will stay awayfrom him as if he glows in the
dark.
So, yeah, that's.
It's an interesting move bySecretary Hegseth, but it is
sending a message.
And Terry Hegseth, but it issending a message.
And I, you know, I, I I'm not a, I'm not a general Millie fan I
never have been but I thinkit's interesting to see how that
one's going to play out.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yep, yeah, that's going to be interesting.
Who else do we have left?
That's big name We've got.
Oh, Cash Patel is the another.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
He's late.
I think he's one of the lastones, but I think he is going to
be.
What do you think?
I think he's going to be a 50to 50.
I think he's going to be a JDVance break the tie Shouldn't be
, but he's going to be, yeah,another one that they're
terrified of.
Yes, and he's going to breaksome things.
Just like secretary Hegseth,he's going to walk in the door
and he's going to break somestuff.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
He really is no question about it, which is
great, and I think, yeah, a lotof these organizations need it.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
They need to be, you know, given a little bit of a
refresher from somebody who's onthe outside.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
What did you think of the kind of segueing slightly
the freeze that is now, I guess,postponed?

Speaker 3 (36:26):
So it is postponed.
I understand why they're doingit.
I think that you know theyprobably could have done it.
The analysis could have beendone before they walked in the
door, unless things were beinghidden.
So in other words, they didn'thave to freeze it to look at it
to keep money from going out.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
For the last few months, you know, since November
, they could have been lookinginto all of this government
programming, all of thisgovernment funding.
They could have made their list, like they've done with a lot
of things, and said, hey, assoon as we walk in, we're
shutting off these 25 right away, we're making sure this money's
not going out.
I don't think they necessarilyneeded to do the freeze.
They could have done it leaningforward.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
But they didn't.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Maybe that was intentional, maybe it was like a
shock value.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Let's shock everybody freak everybody out.
And calm down.
Here's what we're doing, yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
No, absolutely.
And listen, President Trump's amaster at that Like that's not.
You know, that's not anaccident.
So yeah, I think that was, thatwas a legit move.
But you know, I don't know ifit was that purposeful, but it
very well may have been, but ithad the effect.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yes, oh, it definitely had.
It got everybody.
Surprise, surprise, everybodygot rattled.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah.
And then the last one is JohnRatcliffe at CIA, and this is a
bit of a transition to our nexttopic, but he walked in and
broke some stuff too.
Yeah, he sure did?
He walked in, he took over, andwhat was his vote?
Count again, do you?

Speaker 2 (37:50):
have that.
Let's see.
His was 74 yes and 25 no.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yeah, so that was.
You know.
People were very comfortablewith him walking in and taking
over CIA, which is good, yeah,but they did turn around and
release.
You know this change on theCOVID origin.

(38:19):
Now people need to understandthat when the CIA evaluates
intelligence, and there's agreat if you've ever seen the
movie Zero Dark Thirty right,which is the open line.
I know it.
Yeah, there's a great scene inthat movie where they talk about
how much confidence they havein a theory.
Yes, so what the CIA has saidnow is that it is more likely
that the COVID origin came froma lab leak than it is the

(38:41):
natural, the wet market ornatural origin that everybody
was you know profusely, you knowsupporting for four years under
president Biden.
Now, suddenly, with literallyno new data.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
So so nothing.
I was really hoping thatwhatever it was that you were
going to say was going to be thething that calmed me down.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
No, no, no, no, no.
It's no new data.
All they did was come up withthe answer that we all knew, and
, and we're allowed to say itout loud.
Come up with the answer that weall knew, and, and we're
allowed to say it out loud.
So what?
Now?
Again, when it comes to this,they don't give you a percentage
.
They don't give you what theytalk to you about as a level of
confidence.
They still say a low level ofconfidence, that this came from

(39:26):
a lab leak, but it is still ahigher low level of confidence
than the wet market theory whichis really just, in my opinion,
an attempt to keep us frompulling out our pitchforks and
burning it all down burningLangley to the ground.
That is yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
I tell you, you know, as women are more like to do,
I'm stereotyping myself.
I I could cry angry tears, LikeI'm so angry.
You know what I mean?
Like pure rage of what we wentthrough as people who said are

(40:05):
you telling me it was a bat?
Some bat in some wet marketjust got us all sick?
Are you kidding me?
Right now you got the Wuhan labwhere they're experimenting on
biochemical stuff and you'regoing to tell me it's not from
there and you want me to believethat?
Are you kidding me?

(40:26):
And for the millions of peopleacross the country, and probably
around the world too, that said, hang on, hang on.
This doesn't sound right.
And to all of those people whotold us that we're crazy, that
we're stupid, that we're this,that we're, that we're
conspiracy theorists, tinfoilhats, all of the awful things
that people have said to us andabout us for all of these years,

(40:46):
I have the biggest F you that Icould ever give you got Elsa
mad.
Oh my gosh, it just I mean thistore families apart.
This has torn the fabric of ourcountry apart.
You see people still walkingaround in open air all by

(41:07):
themselves or in their carswearing masks, because they have
been beat down in fear fortheir lives.
They have lost years off oftheir lives.
They've literally lost familymembers who were locked up in
hospitals where they couldn't goand see, them all because of
lies and misinformation, callingus the misinformer.

(41:31):
I need to calm down.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
No, it's you.
You are right to be angry, weall are, and this goes back to
you.
Know, fauci, this goes back topreemptive pardon.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Why did he get a?

Speaker 3 (41:44):
preemptive pardon.
Because you know why yeah it'sbecause of this and it's because
of the money that he made andbecause of all that, and we were
all called idiots, we werecalled all kinds of names and
you know, and anybody who knewanything or had any common sense
whatsoever knew that it wasn'ta bat.
Yeah, you know what I mean,like the fact that we've been
validated at this point yeah the.

(42:06):
You know the fact that it wasjohn radcliffe walking in.
Tell the public, because youknow that's what happened that's
exactly what happened.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
All of these things that are happening preemptively,
preemptively, including theremoving of the red dye 30, you
know, whatever is three,whatever, none of those.
Yeah, removing the red, likeall of these preemptive things,
it's because they know what'scoming.
Yeah, you know.
So it wasn't any.
It's nothing other than that.
Then now they're, you know,house of cards are all starting
to crumble and now they're justtrying to get in front of it and

(42:36):
get out from underneath it.
You know, this is there'snothing noble happening here.
For the American people, it'sthe oh shit, we're caught.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Yeah, this is cover your ass.
That's what this is, yeah, soman, oh man.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
I mean, if you're, I'll tell you.
If you're not angry, there'seither something wrong with you
or you are so good with God thatnothing can phase you.
And I would like to be thelatter, but I'm still angry, man
.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Well, you know, and just in the last week, you know,
Pfizer came out with the listof side effects from there,
right, which is crazy Listen,folks, if you haven't seen it.
And and the only jab I took wasthe original jab, and I took it
mostly because I'd been stuckby everything else by the army
before I retired.
It didn't matter, right, itdidn't matter, but I didn't take
any of the boosters afterwards.

(43:23):
But if you go back and you lookat the Pfizer list of side
effects from the vaccine, it'sinsane.
And just to tell you what thekind of the turn has been in
attitude towards the vaccines, Iwent to a VA appointment today
and they said hey, we see thatyou had, uh, you know, the
original Pfizer vaccine.
I said yeah, and they said andyou haven't had any booster
since?
And I said no, no, Like, do youwant a flu shot or a booster

(43:45):
today?
And I said absolutely not.
And you know what.
They said Okay, and that was it.
Yeah, Two years ago.
Right, it would have been.
I would have been lambasted.
They would have been no, youreally should, I would have got
a totally different response.
And now everybody, includingthe VA medical system, is like
all right man, you got it Causethey all know it's a sham.

(44:06):
Yeah, it's been a sham sincethe beginning.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yep From the beginning.
And there's people who this isthe hill they're going to die on
because they don't want to know.
Then, one, they have to admitthey were wrong.
Two, they'd have to apologizefor all of the horrible things
that they said and wished uponus anti-vaxxers or non-vaxxers

(44:28):
or whatever you want to call us.
Yeah, no, I'm not ready to makenice.
I can tell you that much, and Iwould love to be the person, I
would love to be the biggerperson and be able to do that
and really pull on that.
That Christian goodness, I'mjust.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not, and I don't even knowif I ever will be.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
I can't even imagine what I would feel had I gotten
the vaccine and the sevenboosters and then handed that
list from Pfizer that lists allthe things that they potentially
did to me.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
It's horrifying to think about.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
And to the people that look at that list, that see
that list to go, yep, stillgoing for another booster.
Like I, I can't help you atthis point.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Like you're, you're beyond being informed, like
you're willfully ignoring thisstuff the thing that I think
about, that that enrages me themost is the people that and I
know y'all do things in goodfaith and you want to do.
You want to protect yourchildren.
I get that.
But to to do this to childrenwho are so vulnerable and to

(45:33):
inject them with something youhave no idea what it is, what
the long-term effects are,Didn't go through proper testing
.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
And the horror that these families must be feeling
right now, you know.
And then, of course, then, likeyou said, you have the ones
that are still like oh no, we'regoing for a 47 booster right
now.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Yeah.
All right, let's lower yourblood pressure.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
We really do need to lower my blood pressure.
I got my numbers back.
I would have mine checked today.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
We're in the same boat.
All right, let's move on.
What's next in line?
This is not going to calm medown, you know what, though, so
here's the thing.
So this man his name is, andI've got it right here because I
knew I was going to screw it upis and I've got it right here
because I knew I was going toscrew it up yeah, um, matt
huddle, who is 42 years old, uh,was stopped by a jasper county

(46:22):
sheriff's deputy in indiana, um,and was killed as he resisted
arrest.
Now a couple of things.
One I have not seen, and Idon't think it's been released
yet.
The body camera footage, whichyou know, especially as an LEO
wife, is going to tell the tale.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
It'll tell the tale.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
And even if it's dash cam, especially if it's a
sheriff's deputy and it's atraffic stop, the dash cam is
going to play part in it too.
Dash cam, body cam footage isgoing to be all important.
The officer people don't jumpto conclusions on this he has
been suspended pendinginvestigation.
Again, elsa will tell youstandard procedure Anybody,

(47:00):
anybody who shoots and killssomeone in the line of duty will
be suspended pendinginvestigation.
Happens everywhere, right, sodon't jump to conclusions.
The officer did something wrongbefore we know.
Okay, now a couple of things.
Things one I am willing to atleast entertain the idea that
this man is suffering some fromsome form of trauma as a result

(47:27):
of his imprisonment for the lastthree plus years.
Um, and I even saw a pictureand you said it last show.
You don't know what's real andwhat's not because of ai and all
this stuff, right, right, therewas a picture of him being.
You know, his cell was a verysmall like broom closet size.
I don't think that's right, Ithink it's AI.

(47:47):
So, again, folks take that witha grain of salt.
But you know, for somebody whospent the last three plus years
in jail, there's probably sometrauma associated with that.
He probably hasn't reintegratedwell or hadn't reintegrated
well back into normal societyafter three years in prison.
He probably had a fear of lawenforcement as a result, right?

(48:08):
There's a lot of things thatcould have played into this.
So my message in all of this islet's not pass judgment on
either one.
Please don't pass judgment onthat officer until you know what
happened.
Please don't pass judgment onthis man, mr Huddle Matt Huddle
before you know what happened.
Here's where I have an issue.
Have you heard about this froma single celebrity?

(48:32):
No, george Floyd.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Right, let's go back to George Floyd All over the
news.
Yes, oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
We haven't heard a single thing about this from
anybody, outside of some verysmall local reporting.
You didn't.
When I brought this up as atopic, I didn't even know about
it.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
That was the first I heard of it.
Yep, that was the first I heard.
Yeah, I had not heard a singleblip on the radar about this, at
all single blip on the radarabout this at all Zero coverage
and that Serious right, sostrange Proof that the

(49:08):
mainstream media has not changed, they have not changed and they
never will.
I think that is their bread andbutter and it will be for as
long as there are people whowill watch and consume and just
buy it all.
And I think that is the saddestthing that we have learned
Nothing, that we have allowedthe media and government to
divide us so severely and soeasily.

(49:30):
I mean, they've done it.
It was so easy.
Like you know, they sit backand they laugh about it.
They're like watch this, thisis so good.
I want to get them riled up.
Oh, it looks like everybody'squieting down.
Let's just throw this at themso they can all fight again.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
But it is coming back to bite some of them, right, I
mean.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
CNN right.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Well, yeah, look who just left.
Yeah, right, jim.
Acosta right, the biggest Trumpantagonist in the mainstream
media.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
CNN was taking him off of the 10 am time slot,
which is they're putting him ona midnight or something, right,
midnight 10 am is gold middaynews.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
That is one of the hot and put it to you this way
they're putting Wolf Blitzer inthere.
Okay, so this is a legithotspot time slot.
It's the first thing aftertheir morning show.
This is that time slot.
It's the first thing aftertheir morning show like.
This is you know, that timespot and Acosta's numbers sucked
so bad that they were like andthey were worried that they were
going to get worse with fouryears of president Trump,

(50:29):
because they knew Acosta wasn'tgoing to change his stripes, so
they were going to move him tomidnights.
And he said I'm not takingmidnights.
And they said, okay, well,that's the only slot we're
offering you.
So he walked out and he quit.
So there is some backlash withthe media, but but again, let's
you know this is proof positive.
This lack of reporting on this,on Matt Huddle being killed, is
is proof positive that themedia still sucks.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Oh, absolutely.
And and I'm so appreciativethat you gave the reminder to
people to not jump toconclusions and to whatever your
conclusion might be, you know,and I know you have a faction of
people that will understandablyautomatically say whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa.
You know, you get your tinfoilhat on and like what's that all
about?
Are they going to start gunningdown all the J6 pardons, you

(51:12):
know?
Are they going to start killingthem all and so they can't talk
?
You know that that is a firstgo to for for many, many people.
You can certainly understandwhy.
You know the anti-police crowd,of course, are going to go right
for the, you know, excessiveforce or police brutality or all

(51:34):
of those things.
And, and you know I'm I cam totell the story and I honestly
think that your theory is themost likely case that this was
just a series of bad events in amoment of time where this guy
was, you know, highly, highlyreactive, you know, probably

(51:55):
terrified.
He just got out.
He's thinking I'm going to go,you're going to put me, you're
going to lock me back up againIf he's got some trauma going on
, and you know, and for a policeofficer, if you feel that you
or anyone around you is is underthreat of harm, you have to
react at such a way you know toto eliminate the threat.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Yep, and you know, and that you know a police
officer is going to have to livewith that.
Yes, you know, and and so letthe let just folks just take a
breath on this one, let it playitself out before you jump to
any conclusions.
Yep.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yeah, it will be one of those things.
If you want the details, if youwant to know what happens.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Yeah, you're going to have to chase it down because
the media is not going to helpyou.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Yep, we have one more for you guys that we're going
to squeeze in real quick.
This for me, I mean, I feellike this is a happy note to end
it on.
You know, we do like to end ona happy note, right, we do yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
And the handwritten note from Secretary Hegseth on
DOD letterhead that said DODdoes not equal DEI right DOD
does not equal DEI right, it's ameritocracy.
It always has been.
And his immediate, you know,directive was get rid of DEI and
everything associated.
Now there was, in a spitefulmove by the Air Force oh, by the

(53:13):
way, the commandant of theCoast Guard has already been
fired.
Now that was a DHS move,because that's who they fall
under.
But you know, you've got that.
I know that the I think it'sthe chief staff of the air force
is under fire right now for avery similar type attitude.
And then the air force respondedto this by removing some
curriculum from their juniorofficer education that taught
about the Tuskegee airmen, whichwas clearly done out of spite.

(53:37):
It was done as an FU to thesecretary of defense and the new
president, and as soon as itwas reported it was directed
reinstate that immediately.
That's not the intent.
It was an asshole move bywhoever it was in the Air Force,
and so you got a little bit ofthat.
But overall, across thegovernment itself, you're

(54:00):
starting to see DEI beingdismantled, dei programs oh, by
the way, this is a huge moneysaver.
You guys have no idea theamount of millions and millions
of dollars for DEI programs andDEI training across the USs
government.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
It's right, gross and that the people hired to do the
training to input these uh lawor rules and everything I mean
they are making.
We're making astronomicalamounts of money for absurd
absurdity, you know.
So, yes, huge savings going onum, some some interesting, very

(54:36):
big names for um that havewalked back or dismantled their
DEI departments Meta, of coursethey did that.
January 10th, at least that'sthe day, I don't know if that's
like the official date or what,but that's recent.
Mcdonald's, amazon, nissan,university of Michigan who else?
Southwest Airlines there weremore recent ones.

(54:56):
Oh no, no, they were actuallyDecember.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
So Costco is doubling down on not.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Yes, costco, there's a few of them.
Um, actually, the one that didsurprise me that that did walk
it back, the only one thatactually surprised me was target
, because they were, you know,one of the most openly, uh,
obnoxious ones.
Uh, walmart, uh, the FCC, but,yes, holding firm is Costco, jp
Morgan and Chase Pinterest.
Does anybody still usePinterest?

(55:22):
Johnson and Johnson and Appleare the ones that I have right
now.
There was more, but those are,of course, were some notable
ones.
So, if anything hasn't changedin the time that I found that,
Costco's facing a strike, sothat's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
I don't know how DEI plays a role in that, but I know
it's going to be a bit of aprobably bargaining chip for one
side or the other.
But Costco is probably thebiggest one that has been out
loud about doubling down on notgetting rid of it.
So we'll see what happens.
You know, again, decisions aremade, so you know, if they start
losing the sam's club, you knowI mean it's that's kind of the

(55:59):
way that it's going to work.
But yeah, we'll see whathappens yep, exactly.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
No, it's.
Uh, you know, it's all goodnews, whether you know, whether
people want to believe it is ornot, or agree that it is or not,
this is all good news foramerica and this is what we
voted for this is what we votedfor 60 of america voted for this
.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
60% of America voted for this right yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Yeah, we are what?
Uh, let's say so as of today,we are what?
Nine days in to thisadministration and look how much
is getting done.
Talk about somebody doing thejob that you hired him to do.
Right, I'm, I'm so blown away,I'm so happy, I'm so pleased to
see that they're doing what theysaid they would do.

(56:41):
He's doing what he said hewould do.
He's putting in the people thatare doing the jobs.
It's just, it's incredible.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
I'm shocked, truthfully.
I knew, you know, I knew I w Iwas one of those people and I am
certainly not anymore.
But I was one of those peoplewho's like Liz, he's being very
aggressive.
You know, I watch hisinauguration speech.
I was like there's a lot ofthings he wants to get done.
Yeah, very aggressive.
I don't know if four years isenough time to get done.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
I remember having that conversation.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Yeah, you might get it all done by the end of the
first year.
Like unbelievable the progress,the things that are being done
this quickly and I guarantee,like there's jokes, that the
press corps is like begging himto slow down.
They can't keep up with it.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
They can't, there's so much they can't keep up.
And now he's adding did you seethat they're adding or opening
up the press pool to contentcreators, all these different
lanes, independent journalists?
Basically, they're opening up.
You can apply.
I think at the moment they havelike over 7,000 applications
that came flooding in and andthe you know requisite is is

(57:43):
that you have to be, you know,serious in what you're doing and
that you consistently report onnewsworthy items in your
content and you are welcome toapply.
So that's you know.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Are you applying or am I applying?

Speaker 2 (57:56):
I know which one of us should apply I think I think
we should.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
We've got like 15, 16 months worth of content that we
do.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
I think, yeah, we're pretty legit.
I think, what are we waitingfor?
All right guys, we'll apply.
We'll let you know how thatgoes.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
And, by the way, the new press secretary is the bomb.
Like she's awesome.
So breath of fresh air comparedto her predecessor, you know,
jean-claude Van Damme.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Yes, no notebook, no binder, no, nothing, just boom
Information.
All right here, coming rightout.
She was phenomenal.
That girl is 27 years old.
She is on fire right out thegate.
Love her pieces.
Yep, absolutely.
Oh, my goodness, all right,that was a lot.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
We jammed that in, got in five solid, good topics
and then a little bit ofeditorializing along the way.
That was, that was good.
I, uh, you know folks, we, wemissed a week and it felt like
we missed a month in the amountof stuff that's going on and uh.
So you know, keep tuning in.
We appreciate you guys, weappreciate everybody here and,
of course, we'll be back nextweek yes, absolutely.

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