April 10, 2025 • 63 mins
We examine the Supreme Court's deportation ruling and how Trump-appointed Justice Amy Coney Barrett's voting record reveals a commitment to interpreting law rather than following party lines, a principle even Trump acknowledges is proper judicial conduct.
• Trump's tariff strategy has prompted 75+ countries to seek negotiations with the US
• Market fluctuations from tariffs are temporary if people don't panic and sell
• The ultimate goal may be replacing income tax with tariff revenue, as the founders intended
• Nationwide "Hands Off" protests ironically embrace libertarian values of limited government
• Media manipulation is evident in coverage of tragic events and political discourse
• The View has hosted 63 guests this year with zero conservative voices
• Critical thinking requires seeking multiple perspectives beyond mainstream narratives
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I'm good.
How are you?
I mean.
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Speaker 2 (02:21):
Oh my goodness.
So I mean obviously we havegreat stuff to talk about
because I picked the stuff.
So you know it's all good If Ipicked it.
I don't even know what we'd betalking about if I picked them.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Listen, it is literally, you know, a scroll
through on Tuesday morning.
I'm like that and that and thatit's not, it's there's no.
There's no science to thisfolks.
I just picked the things that Ithink we should talk about.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I love it.
I love it Right off the bat.
We're talking about this, andyou know I mean surprise,
surprise, the left is clutchingtheir pearls again, and this
time it's, you know, over the,the Supreme Court, daring,
having the audacity to, you know, send awful criminals and
horrible people back to thecountry where they came from,
and came here illegally from.
(03:06):
Yeah, crazy right.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah, scotus, you know, not that long ago, four
years ago, we had a little overfour years ago we had a couple
of new justices that took a lotof crap right.
I mean, you remember theconfirmation for for uh, Bryant
and um, what's his name?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
um oh um yeah, wow, I'm, I'm useless to you here, to
the president's face, yeah,yeah the two that president
trump put in the in the supremecourt.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
They, like they, have voted.
She, actually, amy comey bryant, has voted, uh, favoring.
You know, I guess the liberalside of things more often than
she's voted conservative in thedecisions.
Very interesting, yeah.
And so everybody thought thatshe was going to be, you know, a
Trump plan and a pushover andjust going to go party line and
all this other stuff and, andyou know the same, with boy
(03:57):
we're, we're terrible.
I can't remember this guy'sname for the life of me.
But anyway, they thought thatboth of them were just going to
go, you know, and it was justgoing to be 6-3, 6-3, 6-3, 6-3
on everything and it has.
That is far from the truth.
However, with this,specifically with the
deportations there has been,it's been 5-4, pretty, you know,
(04:18):
pretty evenly.
But but you know, all theseMS-13 folks and Trend Agua and
all these get them out of hereExactly.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Listen.
If people on the left want themto stay, so bad, I think they
should open their doors to theirhomes and invite them to come
stay with them, right?
I mean, if they're that deeplyaffected by these, these people
being deported, you know there'sa solution, right?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah, listen, we've all been saying that.
We've been saying that, for youknow the four years of the
Biden administration.
You know everybody.
You know defending the openborders and defending illegal
immigrants and all that otherstuff.
But that's some limousineliberal crap right there.
None of them are going to opentheir door, give their spare
room or their pool house, youknow, to a family or individual
illegal immigrants.
(05:02):
Do you remember when they hitMartha's Vineyard?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Oh yeah, less than 24 hours, less than 24 hours
before they were out.
Who's who sent them over?
I mean, I know it was duringthe Trump administration, but
somebody specifically oh uh,desantis.
Ron DeSantis was the one that.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Yeah, I think, desantis, it wasn't.
It wasn't Texas, it was Floridathat sent the Martha's Vineyard
Yep.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Brett.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Kavanaugh, by the way , I had to look it up.
There you go.
It's driving me crazy.
But yeah, I mean so, yes, wewould we love for them to put
their money where their mouth isand say, oh, I'll protect these
people, I'll do this, I'll dothat.
We would love for them to dothat, but they won't.
So you know, unfortunately, theSupreme court had to get
involved and, and you know, theyruled on the side of what is
just and right.
(05:47):
Let's not say it's on the sideof the president.
They ruled on the side of whatis just and right.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
You know, I'm glad you said that, because that's
kind of been my thought processhere.
You know, would would I like tohave seen her vote differently?
Yeah, of course.
But I'd like to give thebenefit of the doubt here and
say that they are interpretingthe law to the best of their
ability and that is what theyare basing their vote on, their
(06:15):
opinions on, and I feel the needto trust that that's the case,
not that she's being a traitorto Trump, because I don't want
her loyal.
I don't want any of them loyalto Trump or to any.
I mean, none of us should wantthat, and I'm sure you see it
too.
I see it all over the placecalling her a traitor and you
know a bad choice and all ofthose things.
And you know you do have tohave that moment where you go
(06:36):
hang on a second.
Do you want somebody to just bea puppet for whoever's in
charge?
You know, because that worksboth ways.
You know whoever's next isgoing to get that same thing
going on.
So you know, just, I like tohave hope.
I don't know if I necessarilyhave faith in that.
We don't put our faith inpeople, but, yeah, my
(06:57):
expectation is is that this ishow she was interpreting the law
and that was why and how shevoted the way she did.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
And she's and she's been treated horribly.
I saw a thing, you know, an AIimage where they had her all
tatted up with MS-13 tattoos allover her face and it's like
come on, people, like I've beensaying it, I hate party line
voters, I hate them.
It's totally contradictory towhat the foundation of our
republic is about, and nowhereis that more lot about in the
(07:32):
last few months is packing thecourt, or we haven't heard about
forcing, you know, retirementsand and these sorts of things.
There's been none of that, youknow, to try and even the courts
(07:55):
out, because, oh, by the way,brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney
Bryant have been interpretingthe law and and is, you know,
often been going against thewishes of the president, and you
know what the president says.
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yes, yes, and I love that he came out and said that.
That made me so proud of him inthat moment.
That is the correct and properresponse and that's the one that
should trickle down to all thearmchair podcast hosts and
critics and real podcast hostsand all of those Anybody really,
(08:29):
who's commenting on all of this?
You don't know.
You're not sitting in therebehind those closed doors and
you're certainly not sittingthere pouring over all of these
documents and the Constitutionand weighing all of these things
like you're not doing it.
So maybe reserve the, the, theyou know the fire there for a
minute.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, and so here, you know, there, you, you hit it
there, there, um, you know,clerks are like triple overtime
right now because, because ofall of these and not you know
simple, there's a lot of termsfloating around out there.
You know, radical, radicaljudges, all these.
You know the high end appointedjudges, appeals judges who are
(09:12):
putting you know injunctions onbasically everything President
Trump does.
Yeah, we talked last week aboutthe guy who was, quote unquote,
erroneously or wrongfullydeported and you had that.
That lower level judge jumpedin and said you have to bring
him back, and I think it wasKavanaugh who jumped in and said
nope, right, but like that tome, scotus has so many other
(09:37):
things to worry about thanoverruling stupidity at the
lower levels below them.
And listen landmark cases, bigstuff, constitutional law all of
that stuff is super, superimportant.
They're going to get consumedand their offices are going to
get consumed by all of thisstuff below them.
They just ruled on the 16,000probationary employees.
(10:00):
Yes, it was okay for thepresident to fire them.
Why does that have to go to theSupreme Court?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy and, you know, my guess
would be that this is obviouslysomething you know to some
degree deliberate keep them tiedup, keep them busy, keep them,
you know, scattered.
Basically, you know, and it's atough call because you know
these activist judges do need tobe put in their place.
This is, they are acting out ofthe scope of their right to act
(10:29):
.
So it does have to be something.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
It's just oh, somebody's got to draw the line
somewhere, right, yeah, andagain, folks, I am not saying
that this is only wrong becauseit's happening to President
Trump.
Right, and it happened withconservative judges against
President Biden okay this.
And it happened withconservative judges against
President Biden OK, we have achecks and balance system, but
no single appointed judge shouldhave the power to stop what the
(10:53):
president is doing.
There are a lot of this has todo with the fact that our
bureaucracy moves so slow, butyou know, the president's in
general use have been using andabusing executive orders, um,
and so they put those in place,and then they take action, and
then you've got judges who weighin, and then there's appeals,
(11:14):
and then you know, and it's likeand we're at the point where
you literally have singularjudges who stopped the president
.
That's not the way this issupposed to work, right, but
there's a lot of steps in herethat are messed up.
Right, it's overuse of theexecutive order, it's all of
those things, and I think,personally, the end state of
Doge in the reduction of thesize of our federal government
(11:37):
is going to do nothing but makeit more efficient, and it's
going to cut a lot of this crapout of the way I wish.
I wish we could cut thistruthfully, cut the size of
Congress, because that's wherepart of the problem is.
I know that's blasphemy,because the constitution is what
it is and I and I believe thatit is one of the perfect
documents, but that's where thehangups are.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And I know it's by design.
You can only imagine thatthere's such a deliberateness
behind the tying up ofeverything so that President
Trump can't get done the thingsthat he wants to do.
I mean, that's obviously thewhole purpose behind everything
that goes on behind the scenes.
And, of course, why don't theywant this to happen?
Because they like having theirpockets lined and they, like you
(12:22):
know, operating in the dark andgetting away with everything
they've gotten away with,because there's no, you know,
there's no.
You can say all day that it'ssimply because they hate Trump
and of course they do, and thatis part of it, but there's so
much more at stake than justorange man bad.
You know, these are people thatare about to lose a lot of money
(12:43):
, a lot of power, and they don'tlike that.
That makes them mad, you know,because if anybody actually
stopped and I mean talking about, not talking about them, I'm
talking about the, the minions,basically the people that march
around, you know, with theirlittle signs and their angry
voices If they actually stoppedfor a minute and thought about
what's actually happening, thatyou know, not only is, is the
(13:05):
Trump administration trying togive back the States, therefore
the people, back their powerwhere it belongs and and
decision-making, which is, youknow, in their minds.
That's what they're arguing for, but they're technically
arguing for more big government,federal government, involved in
their lives, making decisionsfor them, like the stupidity of
(13:25):
what they are actually arguingagainst is constantly mind
blowing to me.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah, I mean there's lists of the things that they're
arguing against, but at theroot of it all, for me, my
opinion is is it?
It's what facilitates all of it?
Is big gov, right?
Right, because they do it isthey want a nanny state, they
want government control.
They want big gov.
They, they want decisions madefor them.
They, you know they don't, andand at the upper echelons, they
(13:54):
don't trust americans to makedecisions for themselves.
They don't trust.
You know they think this isthat.
You know there's 50 ways.
You know there are 50 examplesof this and you can talk.
Voter ID law is the perfect one.
There's literally no reason.
You know the made up reason isoh, you know, poor people can't.
You know, they have such a hardtime getting identification.
(14:15):
So, so fix the identificationprocess, right, right, like what
you've got.
You know, every two years wehave an election day.
How about for those two yearsin between elections?
You work to fix theidentification.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, If that was the the real problem that they
really well, if that was whatthey really believe to be the
problem.
There's your solution, and thatis so par for the course of
what they do, they pick out orcreate problems.
Never a solution, Never, everwill you see a solution to a
problem come from these people.
(14:49):
They don't want the problemsolved.
It's like it really is thatsimple, Like if you took it down
to bare bones, right?
If the problems are solved, ifthe people are self-sufficient,
if they don't need government togive them their cell phone or
their you know groceries or anyof those things, they're out of
(15:11):
a job.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
That's it, and listen it's, it's big pharma.
Big pharma treats people.
They don't care anybody.
It's the same thing, right?
This is.
It's the same mentality, youknow, and government dependency
is what they want.
Government dependency is whatyou know and that's why there
was the all of the illegalimmigration, which is what
SCOTUS just flipped over, rightas we can start or continue to
deport all these people.
(15:33):
But it was all about, you know,and they've readily admitted it
now, like it's been, it's comeout a couple of times now that
the entire purpose behind thatwas to bring them to the United
States to overload you, tooverload districts and get
enough voters in to keepDemocrats in office.
That's all it was.
We all knew that's what it was.
But now it's been really kindof out there, and so thankfully
we're fixing those kinds ofthings and shrinking the
(15:54):
government with Doge andhopefully we can get rid we'll
never get rid of the nanny statementality, but hopefully we can
at least reduce the nanny stateto a manageable level reduce
the nanny state to a manageablelevel.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, I just think that you know more people need
to educate themselves and beaware of you know the expenses
that the, the money that's goingout to you know God knows where
.
I think there was just a.
They just put it out there abig a graph the numbers of
illegal aliens collecting socialsecurity, right, did you see
that?
No, it's like it's insane.
I'll try and find it, if I findit, I'll put it up there and
(16:28):
everything.
But the numbers are wild, it'sjust wild.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Listen, there's plenty of examples.
You know our favorite, our newfavorite idiot, jasmine Crockett
.
See this Supposedly hergrandmother has been dead for
over 10 years and they justforgot to tell the social
security office and have beencashing checks.
I did not see that I've seen itListen, that was.
That was one of those thatinitially, when I saw it, I was
(16:53):
like this is crap, it's bogus,it's whatever.
But I've seen it in enoughplaces and enough different
sources that there is somevalidity to it.
So you know Um.
So you know it's, um, it'severywhere, like that kind of
stuff's everywhere and we justgot it.
You know, doge has just got tokeep digging and I'm all for it.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, same here and they need to keep exposing it.
At some point these people haveto actually look at it.
Although you know, I've seenpeople plenty of times.
You, you hand them and I knowyou've seen it too, we've all
seen it it you hand them facts,documented, verifiable facts,
and they're like nope, don'twant to hear it, orange man, bad
End of story.
And it's like I mean, I don'tknow how much more you know.
(17:32):
I guess you don't care aboutyour money, I guess you don't
care about your home.
You know that's what they liketo say to us, right, you know?
Oh, I guess you don't careabout women, I guess you don't
care about trans people, suiciderates, Like that's what they.
They try and guilt.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
So maybe if we turn that around a little bit, they
just had a whole day of protestsabout it, Elsa.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
What they did, yeah Right, I hadn't heard a thing
about it.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
So, if someone can tell me because I saw probably a
dozen different signs liketopics, not different signs,
different topics on differentsides, right For hands off.
Now, you think initially handsoff would be the hands off my
body, women's, you know it wouldbe an abortion rally, whatever
(18:22):
it is.
So it was so broad.
Beyond that, it was hands-offeducation.
It was hands-off.
I mean, it was every you knoweverything, which is amazing
because that's libertarian right, like that, this.
Now they're protesting.
(18:42):
Now they're protesting as aslibertarians, they want less
government impact on their lives, which I think is what we've
all been trying to work towards,right yeah, it's like okay,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
That's literally what we've been saying thank you for
agreeing with us.
Angrily, I mean, I it's so.
You have to laugh like you.
You have to laugh at this, you,you have to laugh at this.
It's too absurd to even believelike okay.
So what was one of them?
Hands off our kids yeah, weagree with you.
(19:12):
Get your hands off our kids.
Teach them reading and math,take out gender studies, like.
Leave our kids the hell alone.
How about that?
Look, yay, we all agree, soexciting.
Hands off our bodies, orprotect women.
You're like which one is it?
I don't even know.
We can agree with that too.
(19:34):
Get men out of women's lockerrooms how about that?
Protect them Common sense.
It sounds like we're agreeingit about time again, I I
honestly don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah, what if there is a consistent thread through
all of these?
I I don't understand what it is, because it seems like there's
just a big label plastered on itand really what it is is anti,
anti-trump, yes, okay, fine, ifthat's what it is, just call it
that.
Like, let's not make itsomething.
It's not right.
Um, so you know, and ithappened.
I think all 50 states was it.
(20:09):
Did it happen?
Did it hit it all?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I think it hit them I'm not even sure to tell you
truth.
I mean quite a few.
I know.
You know there's, so you knowthere's so much side stuff that
goes on.
You know people getting caughtlike somebody shared what they
claim to be um a video in avideo of this massive and I'm
not saying that they weren't big, but basically it looked like I
(20:31):
don't even know.
Well, it looked like a Trumprally is what it looked like,
because there were so manypeople and then somebody you
know did like a reverse AIlookup on it and they're like,
yeah, nice, try, that's from youknow, whatever something else
you know, so a lot of those tomake it look bigger.
A lot of videos of I think thatLaura Loomer, I think, is her
name, has video of them busingprotesters in with their
(20:57):
pre-made signs and you knowtheir corporate sponsors and all
of that stuff.
There's a video I saw of a guywhen he was being interviewed.
They're like, well, what areyou?
What are you angry about?
What do you?
What hands off?
And he pulls out his piece ofpaper and he's like oh, we, we
are angry because you can't.
Just you don't know why you'reangry.
You've got to read why you'reangry, funny.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Yeah, there's a.
I saw another one.
I saw those, the reverse AIlookup.
I thought was amazing, that wasperfect, like, again, we're,
we're finding great uses for AI.
Um, that was one of them.
I know you know some of likethey were.
There was a couple of them thatwere like um, were the parades
for, like, sporting events, likethose kinds of you know Um, so,
yes, there was a lot offabrication to that.
(21:39):
Yes, there was a lot of like,take the photo from a certain
angle, you get the AOC effect,you know.
Yes, like, oh, my God, look atall these people and actually
it's like 14.
But I did see another thing.
There was a lady who was likeyou know, okay, I'm going to,
I'm going to jump in on this.
She's a conservative and she'slike, I'm just going to pretend
(22:01):
that I'm a protester.
And so she, through through acontact or two, she kind of got
some information about theseprotests, about the you know the
hands off marches or whateverthey were, and so she followed
some instructions and it waslike okay, show up, don't wear
anything red, like.
So there was guidance, right,yeah, no, red hats, but no,
really nothing red, you know,blah, blah.
(22:22):
So she's like okay.
So I just dressed in black,black top and bottom and they're
like okay.
So when you get there at thiscorner, you know.
Finally, if there's a ladythere with blue hair and a nose
ring and she's like well, Ifigured everybody was going to
have blue hair and a nose ring.
And she goes, but the lady wasparticularly easy to find.
So the lady said I brought myown sign and she said it was
(22:44):
very innocuous.
It was, I think, hands off oureducation, or something like
that.
And then so the lady there withthe blue hair and the nose ring
was like okay, you need to goto this location, you need to
walk this path and then, at theend, see this person and you'll
get paid.
So there is right, there wassome truth.
We're starting to get sometraction on what we all again
(23:15):
knew to be true back on 2020,back in the Antifa stuff.
You know that, that these arepaid protesters and people will
do anything for a buck.
So you know, this is again.
If it was an anti-Trump protest, just let it be an anti-Trump
protest, right.
Why put another name on it?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
And you know, again, it's, it's preying on these
people are preying on becausethere were, there were quite a
few people, you know, we don'twant to minimize that, there
were people there of their ownvolition, because they really
believe in you know, their causeof the moment absolutely out of
(23:49):
their minds, hysterical yellingand shaking their fists and
waving their signs and themental illness oozing off of
them.
And you know, and these are thepeople I actually, I really feel
for them because they are theirbrains, their minds are so
warped, they are so angry andthey don't even understand why
they're angry.
Like it's scary to watch that'sthe part to me that's scary to
(24:10):
watch that they have been sounbelievably brainwashed into
this mentality, this ragementality, and they just, they
just keep feeding, feeding themental illness and and loving it
and enjoying it, enjoying itand, you know, throwing a few
bucks out and whatever thatmeans.
And I think I also heard Idon't know if you heard this
that not necessarily all theprotests, but there was a
(24:32):
particular one where Iapparently, like it hit a
certain time of the day and likeeverybody just packed up and
left, like this massive cohort,they just clocked out, clicked
on the back of the dinosaur intheir car, pedaled away.
Exactly that was I.
I'm I'm ready to sing theFlintstones theme right now.
(24:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
So I have no doubt whatsoever.
You know, I and I've seen a fewclips of, you know, people
walking and filming, you know,and then, of course, somebody in
a mask, always somebody in amask, you know, comes up to
filming you know.
and then, of course, somebody ina mask always somebody in a
mask, you know comes up to himand says who are you, what are
you doing here?
And it's like I'm just filming,you know.
And then all of a sudden theyget shepherded away from the
protest, you know kind of thing,which is always funny, you know
(25:20):
, in my younger days I wouldhave been that person walking
around with a red hat on youknow, like just to antagonize
people.
But you're right, the level ofmental illness and then the you
know commensurate level ofviolence associated is way out
of control.
If you walk through any, if youwalked anywhere near one of
those things with a MAGA hat on,you are you are risking bodily
(25:44):
harm.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
You are, absolutely, you're, absolutely.
There was just um, you know,and that is their, their go-to,
physical violence is their go-to, because and you see it over
and over again there was just a,a young woman, a pro-life um
advocate, or I don't know if shehas a podcast, you must and she
was interviewing people on thestreet and, uh, she was a woman
came up and they were having aheated, heated exchange and the
(26:08):
woman just couldn't take itanymore and she sucker punched
her, she just popped her rightin the face.
You see, that one.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
There was actually two of them, so I don't know
which one.
There was two of them and itwas.
I think in both cases it wasabortion, was the you know the
issue.
It was abortion was the youknow the issue and it literally
was.
So somebody was like, well,wait a minute, you know, and
they just they challenged someof the you know lies associated,
you know, they've beenassociated for decades with the
entire argument and andliterally, because they couldn't
(26:37):
, you know these women couldn'tdefend against you know logic
and their reflex was close fistboom, punch the lady right in
the face.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, yeah, that's that is time and again, that is
the go-to, and you know, and,and it's this is why we say all
the time, not so that that kindof confrontation happens.
But this is why we talk aboutwe being people on the right.
Talk about facts, knowing yourfacts, being able to argue any
(27:09):
topic, anything that they mightcome at you with, with their
feelings, and ask them tocounter it.
Ask them to counter the facts,like here.
Here is a fact.
Like I understand your feelings, like I have feelings too, you
know, I mean, we all havefeelings, but they don't make
things true.
Just because you feel somethingdoesn't make it's true.
Facts make things true and theycan't.
(27:32):
They can't do it.
They can't do it, so they gostraight to rage and they can't
do it because they haven't beentaught how to do it.
These are people that have comethrough you know these, and I'm
not.
I'm kind of bashing publicschool system, um, but I'm more
bashing the on the college level, on the university level,
because it's that's where itreally, I think, manifest the
(27:55):
most.
Um, that's just the breedingground.
Like they have truly,completely gotten them away from
the parents, the influence ofthe parents, and now the
indoctrination is just going togo.
We're going hard and full forceat it.
And you see so many times likepeople, girls in particular it
seems like girls in particular,and there's whole reasoning
behind that.
You see those I'm sure you'veseen them those like first day
(28:17):
of college pictures, and theyjust look fresh faced and ready
to take on this next adventurein life.
And then you see them at theend of their college or maybe in
the middle of their collegeexperience, and they are a shell
of themselves.
You know, they've chopped offall their hair.
Now they think they're a boy.
They've got everything piercedand their hair whatever's left
(28:40):
of it is blue and it's like oh,how can we not connect the dots
here?
Like the dots?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
are very easy to connect.
All you have to do is look atthe evolution of Rachel Maddow.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Oh my goodness, that's a great example.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Beautiful young lady, blonde hair, truthfully doesn't
even look like what we seetoday.
So crazy to me as a, as a younggirl, I think, probably like
the earliest picture younormally get is maybe like end
of high school or maybe early incollege, so she's in that 18,
19 ish range and then evolutionof of what happens to her
physically right, exactly whatyou're talking about.
(29:16):
Yeah, yeah, but you know it's.
It does start in high school.
You know you have teachers whoare police, you have teachers
who have an agenda and then inthe classroom it becomes very.
You know kids who want to speakout.
They get shunned and shut down.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, and they get physically attacked as well.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
And they do, and then , and then, when it gets to
college, you know, but then theystill have parents to stick up
for them, right, you know.
And then, but you're right,they get to college and they're
kind of on their own.
And you know, I totallydisagree with the idea of a
college professor throwing youout of class because you're a
paying customer, like you knowand listen, I got thrown out of
(29:56):
class as a freshman in a mathclass because we had a teacher
who, literally, for the firstseven classes, bought the exact
same problem.
Like he didn't even change thenumbers in the problem.
Yeah, so, and like the seventhclass, seventh time hearing this
, I'm sitting next to this girland we just start talking
because we've seen this sixtimes already.
(30:17):
He turned around and you know,he, you know, pointed me out
what are you talking about?
Stop talking to class.
I was like you've taught usthis seven.
And he threw me out of classand I was like, so, like, as a
paying customer, I I'm totallyopposed to that at the
collegiate level, but you'reright it, it totally destroys
the idea of discourse.
Grown up, you know, rationaldiscussion without emotion,
(30:39):
without animation, that ateacher and instructor,
professor, should sit back andmoderate and not participate in
Right Right and make sure thatboth sides are being expressed
civilly with.
You know intent and intentionand and, and they moderate that
and, but that's not being done.
So you know what I get it.
People misunderstand thedifference between opinion and
(31:02):
if you're stating your opinionis fact, right, I have opinions
on a lot of things, I post themall the time.
People come after me for myopinion and they're like prove
that.
I'm like, I don't have to, it'smy opinion, right, right.
Well, such and such and suchand such, prove it Like.
I don't have to prove it, it'smy opinion, right, that's what
you and I do.
We're pundits, right, and wespeak.
We're not news reporters.
(31:22):
We've said this a thousandtimes on this show, but people
mistake that and that's part ofthe problem as well.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
So yeah, absolutely.
That's a great point and that'sso true.
You know we can state a factabout something and then discuss
our opinion on it, like AmyBear Cohen.
You know there's fact and thenthere's opinion and, like you
said, we can have whateveropinion on it that we want.
You can you being the viewer orlistener, whichever the case is
(31:48):
you can disagree with it, it'sall good.
I've never had a time whereI've felt like you know, I'm
going to say these things andeveryone has to agree with me.
Like can you, can you imagine,just like imagine for a moment
having that mindset, like Ican't even wrap my brain around
being that arrogant, first ofall, that I would think that my
(32:09):
opinion is the only right one.
Like I, I'm fine with saying Icould have something wrong, I
could have a lot of things wrongand I don't mind listening to
other perspectives.
You know, you give me back upyour argument if you want to,
and you know, and if I want to,I'll back up mine, but no
requirement to.
We're just not.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
No, I don't work for you.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
No, yeah, I love when people, I love when people in
comment sections right Show meyour facts, show me, show me the
article you got that from, dude, do your own research.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, and again, I owe you nothing If I'm
expressing my opinion.
I owe you and unfortunately,you know kind of where we
started all this is.
You get into a violent responsewhen you don't give them what
they want, when you disagree,you provide an opposing opinion
or you don't, you know, abide bytheir wishes.
That's what you get as aviolent response.
(32:59):
You know, like these ladiesthat we were talking about, and
unfortunately you know, goingback to the idea of walking with
a red hat in the middle ofthese, you know hands off
protests.
You know you're going to get,you're going to get messed up,
because that is the reflex now.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yes, yeah, yeah, very different reflex and response
when the shoe is on the otherfoot.
Oh, very different.
Yeah, mostly peaceful protests.
You remember those?
Oh, yeah, yes, yeah, yeah.
My favorite was always that onewith the riots and that she's I
(33:34):
don't know if it was a man orwoman reporter saying, but the
mostly peaceful, and literallybehind them burning, burning
down like flames, shooting upsmoke, and people running back
and forth with, like you know,giant TVs on their shoulder,
like mostly peaceful, with, likeyou know, giant TVs on their
shoulder, like mostly peaceful.
Okay, we believe that.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
And listen.
There's plenty nowadays thatthere's a visceral reaction to,
you know, and, and the everevolving one is, you know, is
the tariffs.
And, and you know I'm far froman economist but I, you know, I
understand common sense.
I do understand the economy.
I am not a studied, deepstudied economist, you know.
So I guess you know.
The question is, I'll ask youfirst, how do you think this is
(34:16):
going?
I mean, this is presidentTrump's brain trust, this is his
baby.
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah, so I mean, I've been for all along simply on
the premise of why?
Why are we getting takenadvantage of the way that we are
?
From these other countries?
This seems like a matter ofcourse, and yes, it's, you know,
scary to a degree.
You know you're talking, butwe're talking about our money.
We're talking about how wespend on things.
(34:41):
I get all of that, but at thesame time there's there has to
come a point where you actuallyliterally do put America first,
and if that means buyingAmerican, getting companies to
come back here that have leftand investing in America, I'm
willing to take the hit shortand wait it out, and, and I'm
(35:03):
even less than you involved inunderstanding the all of that
stuff.
Like I, I actually recoil fromit that I don't even like.
You know I'd like to be likeyou know the, the, the old
school foreigners that used tostick money under the mattress.
You know what I mean.
Like, if it was up to me,that's how I would live.
Like if I can't see it in myhand, it doesn't exist.
(35:25):
Like that's how old school Iwould prefer to be.
I'm not a risk takerfinancially, None of it.
I want zero to do with any ofit.
I just like to, I get a littleblack and white with it.
I like what feels like commonsense to me and this feels like
common sense to me.
And you know, and I think I'mprobably kind of right here,
because I think the number is upto like 75 countries now want
(35:48):
to come to the table and talk topresident Trump.
And you know, and he's beenvery like, just hang tight,
folks, hang tight, just hunkerdown for a minute.
And I think major people likewho, Dave Ramsey, I think, Suze
Orman are all saying the samething.
They're like calm down, it'sgoing to be fine.
This is not the first time thatthe market has fluctuated,
(36:08):
where we've had drops, and we'vehad worse ones than this.
And the minute he says, youknow, I think it was today it
jumped up again because he putit out there that these
countries want to come to thetable and have a conversation.
Now, you know, China, of course, is the big one and I got you
know, no pun intended, but I gotmy money on Trump, on this.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Yeah, and that's you know.
You know me, I'm not a Crenshawfan.
He said the same thing Don'tbet against President Trump.
You know so today.
You know Crenshaw supportsTrump.
So note that today, by the way,wednesday, we're a little early
today, yes, were 3.30 East Coasttime, a little earlier than
normal.
But the tariffs, you're right,there's a level of fairness
associated with this.
(36:55):
We get tariffs imposed on usand we don't reciprocate with
other nations, right, there'snot a lot of fairness there,
because we've allowed it tohappen, or it's been a tool of
diplomacy in the past, which youknow.
That's what part of this is.
That's what people lose sightof.
(37:16):
They think this is a completelyfinancial decision, and it's
not.
You know, in some cases it is,but in most cases this is about
diplomacy and this is about amessage to, you know, the EU.
Specifically.
It's a message to China, it's amessage to others out there
that we, you know, we aren'tgoing to be taking advantage of,
financially or otherwise.
So you know, I am on board withthat.
(37:39):
I am on board with the factthat the market has always
recovered.
The fact that the market hasalways recovered.
Okay, every single time themarket has come back.
What I hate the most about thisis the media, and you know
people who don't listen.
Only 8% of the United States isinvested in the stock market.
Let's not turn this into this.
You know like the whole worldis ending for our entire
(38:09):
population, because it's not,but you only lose money on the
stock market if you sell belowwhat you bought it at, and
that's why all of theseeconomists and the president are
saying just wait.
Settle down, hang on.
Oh, by the way, if you have theability and they've all come
out, including the president,have all come out and said this
this is not a rich person'ssecret.
This is reality.
If you have the means to buyright now, buy Because it's low
(38:33):
right now.
They acknowledge that they knewthis was coming right.
So invest now if you have theability right, and then the
market's going to rebound andit's going to increase your
value.
But everybody who keeps sayingoh, he's lost people thousands
of dollars in their retirement,oh, tens of thousands of dollars
, Only if they panicked.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I was just going to say only if they panicked, right
.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Yeah, If they panicked and sold right.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Here's my favorite thing right now about President
Trump and his level ofconsistency on who he is and who
he says he is and how he feelsabout things.
He has been talking about thisfor decades decades that we're
getting taken advantage of, andhow he would do it differently
and what he would do and youknow, I'm I'm so.
(39:17):
He's had this plan for a very,very long time, even if it was
just a, you know, a dream and anidea at one point to to see
this come to fruition.
So this isn't just a.
He woke up one morning and saidI'm going to slap some tariffs
on people, like shut up people.
That's not the case.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
And his theory in all of this is that we go back to
free income tax.
Yes, that all of these tariffsincoming goods pay to run our
government.
Yes, you don't have to havefederal income tax or we have an
extremely low income tax foreveryone.
Right, and listen.
(39:54):
There are people are going tobe angry about that.
They're always going to sayrich people should pay, you know
, to fund poor people, whatever.
But the reality is is that thisis tied together in the
president's brain.
Tariffs are not just adiplomatic tool.
They're not just an economictool to bring business back to
the United States.
They're also a tool to pay forour government, the operation of
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our government, to relieve thatburden from the average citizen
.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
And who could possibly not agree at this point
that we aren't taxed to death?
We are so taxed to death atthis point that we aren't taxed
to death.
We are so taxed to death Likeprobably the biggest reason why
I would say everybody, justsettle down and give it a hot
damn minute to see how this isgoing to play out, cause I think
we're going to win on this.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Yeah, our founding fathers would have been burning
stuff by now.
Absolutely the amount of taxesthat we're paying.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
No question about it.
Yeah, no question about it.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Washington DC would have looked like Southern
California.
It would have been lit, I mean,to the ground.
You know, 200 years ago.
So you know the tariffs.
I think again does it on paper.
Look, you know, a little badright now.
Sure, it does.
Right, we're in this trade warwith China, I think just before
we started recording, it bumpedup again, president.
(41:05):
He's like a guy at an auctionlike you're going to go 84.
I'm going 125.
You know what I mean.
And that's China.
But you're right, there's been75-ish at this point, countries
who've said, hey, let's talkabout this, right and good.
But you've got.
You know, the other side ofthis is bringing all of this
industry capability back to theUnited States, and good.
(41:29):
So I think you know the shortsighted folks are panicked.
I think those patients andwho've been through these things
before at least have anunderstanding.
You know, they know to play thelong game and it's all going to
turn out.
I have faith that it is goingto turn out the way the
president, you know, has plannedit.
You know the outlier is Chinaand I don't, truthfully, I don't
.
I don't think they really careabout the economic impact.
(41:51):
Yeah, so many assets that itdoesn't even matter to them.
We could probably.
We could probably tariff themfor 400% and they wouldn't care.
I mean, they would be upset butthe money wouldn't matter.
They pay the tariffs, but they,you know we just turn into a,
you know, pissing contest.
So, but I think everything else, including the EU, you know
they're all going to come around.
I did see an interesting one, ayoung lady, english English,
(42:15):
yeah, she's English.
She predicted that thesetariffs will be the end of the
EU, interesting, you know,obviously, the Brits, and Brexit
and all that stuff.
They've had their day.
But she foresees this to be apoint of argument within the EU
where many member nations aregoing to go let's go negotiate,
(42:37):
and then you'll have a numberthat will be of the opposite
mindset and it has the potentialto over fine, you know, over
financial decisions break the EUapart over these tariffs.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Very interesting.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Yeah, never thought of that one.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
No, no, I definitely wouldn't.
I can tell you that right now Idefinitely would have never
even thought of it.
Fascinating stuff.
So I mean, obviously we'regoing to keep watching that and
see what happens, and and I Ireally hope to have one of our
favorite I told you so moments.
I would really like to havethat.
So, president Trump, if youcould get on that and give us
the I told you so moment, wewould much appreciate.
(43:14):
Oh, my goodness, what are wemoving on to next, clay?
Oh, this one.
This is so heartbreaking.
I just, you know, as a parent,uh, as a parent whose kid played
sports, I know you can relateto that as well.
I this is not something youcould ever imagine happening.
(43:35):
It is so senseless.
I just, and then more senselesssenselessness after.
Is the the senselessness after.
Is the public reaction right?
What's going on?
That it's politicized, thatit's all of the things.
I'm I'm a little bit speechless, play I, I'm just so sad by
(43:56):
this.
Speaker 4 (43:57):
So, for those of you that aren't tracking, um, high
school tech, texas high schooltrack meet and I ran for four
years in high school and I cantell you they are for families
the most boring thing, uh, isfor high school sporting event,
right For the minute, twominutes, four minutes, whatever
that your kid is running, yeah,that's it.
The other nine hours that thesethings take are like paint
(44:19):
drying.
So, truthfully, a lot ofparents, a lot of family members
, they'll go there watch theirchild compete.
Sure, right, because again, youknow it's it's, it is what it
is.
Um, so in this case, uh, ayoung male, uh, white athlete,
was sitting in the bleachers ata track meet and his name
(44:39):
escapes me, but a young male,black athlete.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Was that Austin Metcalf, I think.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Austin Metcalf, the young male black athlete, and I
only remember his name becausehis name is Carmelo Anthony,
which would give that former NBAplayer, but his name is spelled
with a K, if I remembercorrectly.
So Carmelo Anthony, forwhatever reason you know,
basically says to this kid hesays, hey, I'm sitting there,
you're in my seat or you need tomove over, or whatever.
And it was, like you know, aminor altercation over a seat in
(45:08):
the bleachers and, and you know, carmelo Anthony goes and he
gets a knife and he stabs thiskid to death right there in the
bleachers.
Yeah, and he dies over a seatin the bleachers.
Like this is a stupid level ofviolence over absolutely nothing
.
Right, and I think that thisgoes back to the, you know, the
(45:28):
youth of America notcomprehending their actions for
a number of reasons.
But the reaction by the publicis what's?
Speaker 2 (45:39):
truly disgusting about this entire thing.
Yeah, it really is.
It really is.
It's so disheartening, it's sopredictable and maybe that's the
part that frustrates me themost.
It's like it's so predictable.
There's one side, you know,calling it a race issue and
screaming about not screaming,but you know basically saying,
(45:59):
oh, if the shoe was on the otherfoot, you know this would be
talked about and they're notwrong on that, by the way.
You know the media would betalking about this to no end.
And the flip side of that isthey're saying that this kid,
carmelo, was being bullied andblah, blah, blah.
And now they've got to go fundme for him and it's raised, you
know, hundreds of thousands ofdollars.
(46:20):
And there's this side and thatside and everybody's, you know,
just arguing over this.
You know I'm trying to say theword this BS of all of it, and
there may be parts where youknow both sides are right about
what they're saying and whattheir perception is of what
happened, but it doesn't changethe fact that a family has just
(46:43):
horrifically lost their son inone of the most senseless acts
that you could possibly havehappen to your child, to your
family.
I think he died in his twinbrother's arms.
I don't know Right.
I think he died in his twinbrother's arms.
I don't know Right.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
That makes me so ill that that poor boy is going to
live with that memory for therest of his life that family is
is destroyed, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
And then you know, for this kid, carmelo Anthony,
he just ruined his life.
His life is potentiallyessentially over in a very
different way, of course.
I mean, he certainly has, youknow, life that he can live.
So much is happening with thatright now that, I think,
(47:29):
reflects so poorly on us as apeople, right.
Speaker 4 (47:34):
So the GoFundMe was up over 600,000, but that was
for Carmelo Anthony's defensefolks.
So that's what was being raised.
I heard today, like about anhour or so before we went on,
that that GoFundMe has been shutdown.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Really.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Interesting.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
I don't know if that's true or not.
I didn't have a chance toconfirm it.
Yeah, but that's an interestingmove by GoFundMe if it's been
shut down.
Because they're usually Well,they're usually like as long as
you're not endorsing criminalactivity or participating in
criminal activity, they're like,hey, whatever Right.
And so, on the surface of this,that's not what this is.
(48:14):
And again, folks, I had not hadthe ability to confirm that,
but I did hear that.
So there was but the reactionby society that says you know,
hundreds of thousands of dollarsfor his defense, or killing
another child over a seat in thebleachers.
Listen, you can say bullyingall you want.
(48:35):
Listen, you can claim racismall you want, but unless there
was a violent act thatprecipitated this, that
initiated this, that you knowMetcalf started that, that you
know Carmelo Anthony was in fearfor his life, which does not
appear to be the case there isno excuse.
You will never convince me thatthat is a reasonable response to
(48:58):
any of this.
To get a knife out of your bagand stab a kid to death, yeah.
And the reaction by that manypeople to donate that much money
to defend this young man on thepremise that this is a racial
incident which we have novalidation, None whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
And I'll tell you what.
That's the biggest reason.
I have not discussed this onany of my platforms at all.
I haven't even shared thearticle, I haven't given an
opinion on it.
Um again, and you and I havetalked about this many times
over many different um topics,cases, whatever the case, is
that, um, I'm, I'm not going todo it, I don't want to speculate
(49:36):
, I don't know.
So I'll you know if and whenthe actual facts that are
favorite word, again, there itis, again facts come out, you
know, then I will be able tohave a bigger opinion on this.
You know, right now, I'm viewingit as just a horrific tragedy.
I do find it appalling, I agreewith you.
I do find it it as just ahorrific tragedy.
(49:57):
I do find it appalling, I agreewith you.
I do find it appalling.
How many people are, or were, Iguess, donating to this GoFundMe
on that premise?
You know, it's absurd becausewe don't know, you know, and
that being the point, that wedon't know at this point, we
know what people are saying, butwe don't know what's accurate
and true.
And yeah, I mean, they'rebasically, they're basically
(50:19):
trying to George Floyd him.
They, you know, before you knowit.
They're going to be trying toget a statue put up of this kid
and you know he's there.
He's their poster boy of themoment of.
You know what they will call.
You know oppression, bullying,oppression.
You know race inequality thisis.
You know clearly where they'regoing with all of this and you
(50:41):
know I would say shame on themand shame on anyone who is
taking, taking a situation andcreating their own narrative
about it and running with itRight.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
Yeah, and this is this, you know, harkens back to
the Daniel Penny, right, right,you know so he was.
You know, we know a few that weknew a few things before the
trial.
Right, we knew he was on thetrain, we knew he was a former
Marine, we knew that he waswhite.
We knew that the victim wasblack.
We knew that the victim had Ishouldn't say victim, because
(51:13):
that's not what that was.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
That's the man who died on the train.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
Yeah, you know it's only bad decisions.
Yeah, right, was was, you know,had mental health issues, he
had a criminal record, he was,you know, and by all accounts,
he was intimidating and scaringpeople on the train.
People just took that all overthe place and, you know, penny
got, you know he got attackedand you know he got vilified.
You know he got attacked andand you know he got, uh, he was,
you know, criminalized and alland all of these things.
(51:39):
And and now we've gotessentially, uh, you know, in
the victim, which is what wasbeing called on the train, the
man who died, like he was avictim.
And now we have roles and racesare reversed, right, so now you
have a young black man whoattacked the young white man,
you know, and who you know, byall accounts, there was no
(52:00):
threat of violence.
There was no, you know.
But we don't know the facts.
But already people arepredetermining, based on
headlines and, let's be honest,skin color, which side they are
voting on this issue, thisincident, before anything else
comes out.
I mean, this was within hours.
People were donating money tothis and they don't even know
what happened.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Nope, nope, they don't care.
All they know is that it was awhite person versus a black
person, and so you know, that isan automatic.
Doesn't matter who's, thatDoesn't matter, none of it
matters, just white versus black.
And of course, the media is,like you know, foaming at the
mouth because, oh good, now wehave, you know, now we have a
(52:41):
concrete thing to be makingeveryone divisive over, in
fighting over, in hating eachother.
And this is the part that I amso beyond sick and tired.
I'm so sick and tired of themedia manipulation of everyone.
I cannot even take it anymoreand I can't take the gullibility
(53:04):
and the willingness to be ledlike stupid sheep and falling
into this whole, you know, usversus them narrative, and you,
you know.
But here we are again.
It's only going to get bigger,it's only going to get uglier,
and then, when all the factscome out and it doesn't go the
way that they think it does, um,it's just going to pretend like
(53:28):
it never happened.
Speaker 4 (53:28):
And don't drop this kid like a sack of potatoes,
because that kid listen, youknow if, if and if that young
man goes to jail, you will neverhear another word about him
again.
Nope, no, um, you know, for allthe people that are supporting
him right now and all this otherstuff, you will never hear
another word about that youngman again.
He is being exploited for whohe is and what happened by.
(53:51):
You know a lot of people,including the media and folks.
If you don't think that you'rebeing manipulated by the media,
let me share a statistic withyou the view, everybody's
favorite group of videos.
Right, they.
They have been for thiscalendar year, right, and we are
april 9th today, right, thiscalendar year they have six have
had 63 guests on their show sofar this calendar year.
(54:15):
Not a single conservative, notone.
So if you don't think that themedia is manipulating you by
limiting exposure, having goodand listen, I get it, it's an
entertainment show, but theydiscuss politics ad nauseum
every day, right, but it is allstupidly.
(54:35):
But all stupidly, but all thetime it's all one-sided.
You are only getting their side63 and 0, right, 63 to 0,
that's what you're getting.
So if you think you're not, youknow the media itself.
Oh, by the way, abc Guilty,owned by Disney.
You know, if you think you'renot being manipulated, there's
(54:57):
proof, that is undeniable proof,that media outlet, specifically
that show, is one-sided.
It's not an accident, folks.
63 to 0 is not an accident.
No, okay, no, that is If it was63 to 1, if it was 63 to 1, I
would believe that 1 is anaccident Right.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Yeah, it's very true.
Yeah, yeah, it's.
You know, again, it constantlyblows my mind that that show is
on the air still, that anybodyactually watches it, aside from
using it as fodder for, you know, jokes and and yeah, but yeah,
I mean people, people watch itin earnest.
(55:35):
They think that these ladiesare smart and that they have
witty commentary, like I'm.
I need to meet these peoplebecause I want, I want to take
them to see if they have a braintumor or something that makes
them believe such silly things.
But yeah, I mean, that's agreat example of what is
happening in mainstream, wherethey call it somebody called it
(55:57):
the alphabet media.
I like that, the alphabet media.
This is what they do.
I mean, I can't beg peopleenough to watch things that you
don't agree with, watch thingsthat have a different
perspective, a differentviewpoint.
You know, I mean to findsomething.
I don't know what's neutralanymore.
I mean to find something.
I don't know what's neutralanymore.
(56:17):
I mean, if neutral exists, Idon't, I don't know it.
I don't know any of the.
I can't even recommend a newssource for you that is truly
unbiased.
I does it exist, clay?
I don't even know.
Speaker 4 (56:29):
I think the only thing that I have found so far I
think it's is it 1440, 440nightly news.
So I caught, I catch it on WGN,the old Chicago station, so
they do have a nightly news.
That is to me about the closestthing you can get to unbind
they.
They very little editorializingand and it surprised me because
(56:52):
I caught it one night and I waslike like I felt like I was in
like 1985 again.
I was like what is this?
And it literally is.
It is.
It is a lot of reporting andit's a lot of facts, it is some
analysis, but it is very littleeditorializing.
I think it's called 1440 or 440nightly news, something like
that.
But they're, they're prettygood, but other than that,
there's, there's nothing outthere.
(57:12):
There's nothing out there.
Yeah, and listen folks, fox isbiased too.
Absolutely, they are, noquestion, no question.
You know, I know Gutfeld rulesnighttime TV.
I know he does.
I enjoy bits and pieces ofGutfeld.
I love Tyrus.
You know Kat Timpf is great.
All the best to her.
I hope she's recovering well.
For those of you that don'tknow, she had the baby got
(57:33):
diagnosed right before withbreast cancer, double mastectomy
.
Brave, brave woman.
I hope she's recovering, but Iwatch it for the funny because
I'm not an idiot, right?
Gut, health is not news people,and that's what we've all got
to do a better job ofunderstanding and, like you said
, find other stuff.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
Find other stuff, watch things that you disagree
with.
Just get different.
Listen, I have become I'mtattletaling on myself here I
have become a fan of chat GPTand people are going to yell at
me in the comments.
They're going to be mad at me,and I understand that.
But if you know how to give itthe prompt, then you can get
(58:14):
some really great information.
One of the things you canactually use chat GPT for is to
research these things for you,find out, put it in there, just
say and I know I know a lot ofpeople are going to be you know
the hard line.
They're like nope, not using it, don't want anything to do with
it.
I'm I'm more concerned aboutgetting a rounded picture of
what's happening in the worldand just to be able, just so I
(58:37):
can talk about it at least alittle bit and not say stupid
things.
You know I mean I try reallyhard not to say stupid things.
It doesn't mean I'm going toaccomplish that goal all the
time, but I just feel better atthe end of the day when I'm not
dwelling on wow, I was sototally wrong on that.
You know cause I'll dwell on itfor a year.
But oh, my goodness, justquestion everything, right, and
(58:59):
we certainly would tell youdon't go by everything that we
say.
Don't take what I say as youknow.
Speaker 4 (59:06):
Please don't my goodness Listen, the only person
who's upset that you're usingchat GPT is Sarah Connor.
Speaker 2 (59:15):
That's it.
I think everybody else is usingit too.
It's just using.
It's just a matter of using it.
Speaker 4 (59:19):
It's a matter of how you use it right how you use it.
Speaker 2 (59:22):
Use it for good, not evil, people Use it to you know,
increase your knowledge.
Oh my goodness, what do we have?
Speaker 4 (59:29):
folks, we're out of time.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
We are out of time.
We had.
How many did we do?
Speaker 4 (59:36):
Six, five we had five , we did not get.
We did not get to your uh, youryour topic that you wanted to
talk today.
We'll hit that next week.
Speaker 2 (59:45):
I don't think that's going to tell you what it is.
We're going to make it asurprise next week.
Yeah, oh, my goodness, guys, asalways, we so appreciate you
hanging out with us.
I us in the comments section,Remember Clay told you in the
beginning we are recording onWednesday.
It was like 3.30.
Well, now it's whatever time itis.
Now we record during the day onWednesday.
We watch with you Thursdaynights.
(01:00:06):
We will do another live showcoming up soon.
We haven't figured out when,but we definitely will.
We just really appreciate youbeing a part of our journey on
here and don't forget to tell uswhat you think about these.
These topics Agree, disagree.
Go for it.
Go crazy, Clay, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
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week too.
Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
We have to, we absolutely have to, and I'm like
I'm going crazy If my familywatches.
They're like how did you keepit quiet?
Cause you're not good atsecrets, elsa.
Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Yes, not saying a word, but I know something you
don't know.
Elsa knows.
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Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Take care, guys.
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How are you?
I mean.
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No, there's never a dull moment.
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I guess not for us, becausewhat the hell will we talk about
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Right, we'll talk about it.
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Speaker 2 (02:21):
Oh my goodness.
So I mean obviously we havegreat stuff to talk about
because I picked the stuff.
So you know it's all good If Ipicked it.
I don't even know what we'd betalking about if I picked them.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Listen, it is literally, you know, a scroll
through on Tuesday morning.
I'm like that and that and thatit's not, it's there's no.
There's no science to thisfolks.
I just picked the things that Ithink we should talk about.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I love it.
I love it Right off the bat.
We're talking about this, andyou know I mean surprise,
surprise, the left is clutchingtheir pearls again, and this
time it's, you know, over the,the Supreme Court, daring,
having the audacity to, you know, send awful criminals and
horrible people back to thecountry where they came from,
and came here illegally from.
(03:06):
Yeah, crazy right.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah, scotus, you know, not that long ago, four
years ago, we had a little overfour years ago we had a couple
of new justices that took a lotof crap right.
I mean, you remember theconfirmation for for uh, Bryant
and um, what's his name?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
um oh um yeah, wow, I'm, I'm useless to you here, to
the president's face, yeah,yeah the two that president
trump put in the in the supremecourt.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
They, like they, have voted.
She, actually, amy comey bryant, has voted, uh, favoring.
You know, I guess the liberalside of things more often than
she's voted conservative in thedecisions.
Very interesting, yeah.
And so everybody thought thatshe was going to be, you know, a
Trump plan and a pushover andjust going to go party line and
all this other stuff and, andyou know the same, with boy
(03:57):
we're, we're terrible.
I can't remember this guy'sname for the life of me.
But anyway, they thought thatboth of them were just going to
go, you know, and it was justgoing to be 6-3, 6-3, 6-3, 6-3
on everything and it has.
That is far from the truth.
However, with this,specifically with the
deportations there has been,it's been 5-4, pretty, you know,
(04:18):
pretty evenly.
But but you know, all theseMS-13 folks and Trend Agua and
all these get them out of hereExactly.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Listen.
If people on the left want themto stay, so bad, I think they
should open their doors to theirhomes and invite them to come
stay with them, right?
I mean, if they're that deeplyaffected by these, these people
being deported, you know there'sa solution, right?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah, listen, we've all been saying that.
We've been saying that, for youknow the four years of the
Biden administration.
You know everybody.
You know defending the openborders and defending illegal
immigrants and all that otherstuff.
But that's some limousineliberal crap right there.
None of them are going to opentheir door, give their spare
room or their pool house, youknow, to a family or individual
illegal immigrants.
(05:02):
Do you remember when they hitMartha's Vineyard?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Oh yeah, less than 24 hours, less than 24 hours
before they were out.
Who's who sent them over?
I mean, I know it was duringthe Trump administration, but
somebody specifically oh uh,desantis.
Ron DeSantis was the one that.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Yeah, I think, desantis, it wasn't.
It wasn't Texas, it was Floridathat sent the Martha's Vineyard
Yep.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Brett.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Kavanaugh, by the way , I had to look it up.
There you go.
It's driving me crazy.
But yeah, I mean so, yes, wewould we love for them to put
their money where their mouth isand say, oh, I'll protect these
people, I'll do this, I'll dothat.
We would love for them to dothat, but they won't.
So you know, unfortunately, theSupreme court had to get
involved and, and you know, theyruled on the side of what is
just and right.
(05:47):
Let's not say it's on the sideof the president.
They ruled on the side of whatis just and right.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
You know, I'm glad you said that, because that's
kind of been my thought processhere.
You know, would would I like tohave seen her vote differently?
Yeah, of course.
But I'd like to give thebenefit of the doubt here and
say that they are interpretingthe law to the best of their
ability and that is what theyare basing their vote on, their
(06:15):
opinions on, and I feel the needto trust that that's the case,
not that she's being a traitorto Trump, because I don't want
her loyal.
I don't want any of them loyalto Trump or to any.
I mean, none of us should wantthat, and I'm sure you see it
too.
I see it all over the placecalling her a traitor and you
know a bad choice and all ofthose things.
And you know you do have tohave that moment where you go
(06:36):
hang on a second.
Do you want somebody to just bea puppet for whoever's in
charge?
You know, because that worksboth ways.
You know whoever's next isgoing to get that same thing
going on.
So you know, just, I like tohave hope.
I don't know if I necessarilyhave faith in that.
We don't put our faith inpeople, but, yeah, my
(06:57):
expectation is is that this ishow she was interpreting the law
and that was why and how shevoted the way she did.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
And she's and she's been treated horribly.
I saw a thing, you know, an AIimage where they had her all
tatted up with MS-13 tattoos allover her face and it's like
come on, people, like I've beensaying it, I hate party line
voters, I hate them.
It's totally contradictory towhat the foundation of our
republic is about, and nowhereis that more lot about in the
(07:32):
last few months is packing thecourt, or we haven't heard about
forcing, you know, retirementsand and these sorts of things.
There's been none of that, youknow, to try and even the courts
(07:55):
out, because, oh, by the way,brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney
Bryant have been interpretingthe law and and is, you know,
often been going against thewishes of the president, and you
know what the president says.
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yes, yes, and I love that he came out and said that.
That made me so proud of him inthat moment.
That is the correct and properresponse and that's the one that
should trickle down to all thearmchair podcast hosts and
critics and real podcast hostsand all of those Anybody really,
(08:29):
who's commenting on all of this?
You don't know.
You're not sitting in therebehind those closed doors and
you're certainly not sittingthere pouring over all of these
documents and the Constitutionand weighing all of these things
like you're not doing it.
So maybe reserve the, the, theyou know the fire there for a
minute.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, and so here, you know, there, you, you hit it
there, there, um, you know,clerks are like triple overtime
right now because, because ofall of these and not you know
simple, there's a lot of termsfloating around out there.
You know, radical, radicaljudges, all these.
You know the high end appointedjudges, appeals judges who are
(09:12):
putting you know injunctions onbasically everything President
Trump does.
Yeah, we talked last week aboutthe guy who was, quote unquote,
erroneously or wrongfullydeported and you had that.
That lower level judge jumpedin and said you have to bring
him back, and I think it wasKavanaugh who jumped in and said
nope, right, but like that tome, scotus has so many other
(09:37):
things to worry about thanoverruling stupidity at the
lower levels below them.
And listen landmark cases, bigstuff, constitutional law all of
that stuff is super, superimportant.
They're going to get consumedand their offices are going to
get consumed by all of thisstuff below them.
They just ruled on the 16,000probationary employees.
(10:00):
Yes, it was okay for thepresident to fire them.
Why does that have to go to theSupreme Court?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy and, you know, my guess
would be that this is obviouslysomething you know to some
degree deliberate keep them tiedup, keep them busy, keep them,
you know, scattered.
Basically, you know, and it's atough call because you know
these activist judges do need tobe put in their place.
This is, they are acting out ofthe scope of their right to act
(10:29):
.
So it does have to be something.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
It's just oh, somebody's got to draw the line
somewhere, right, yeah, andagain, folks, I am not saying
that this is only wrong becauseit's happening to President
Trump.
Right, and it happened withconservative judges against
President Biden okay this.
And it happened withconservative judges against
President Biden OK, we have achecks and balance system, but
no single appointed judge shouldhave the power to stop what the
(10:53):
president is doing.
There are a lot of this has todo with the fact that our
bureaucracy moves so slow, butyou know, the president's in
general use have been using andabusing executive orders, um,
and so they put those in place,and then they take action, and
then you've got judges who weighin, and then there's appeals,
(11:14):
and then you know, and it's likeand we're at the point where
you literally have singularjudges who stopped the president
.
That's not the way this issupposed to work, right, but
there's a lot of steps in herethat are messed up.
Right, it's overuse of theexecutive order, it's all of
those things, and I think,personally, the end state of
Doge in the reduction of thesize of our federal government
(11:37):
is going to do nothing but makeit more efficient, and it's
going to cut a lot of this crapout of the way I wish.
I wish we could cut thistruthfully, cut the size of
Congress, because that's wherepart of the problem is.
I know that's blasphemy,because the constitution is what
it is and I and I believe thatit is one of the perfect
documents, but that's where thehangups are.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And I know it's by design.
You can only imagine thatthere's such a deliberateness
behind the tying up ofeverything so that President
Trump can't get done the thingsthat he wants to do.
I mean, that's obviously thewhole purpose behind everything
that goes on behind the scenes.
And, of course, why don't theywant this to happen?
Because they like having theirpockets lined and they, like you
(12:22):
know, operating in the dark andgetting away with everything
they've gotten away with,because there's no, you know,
there's no.
You can say all day that it'ssimply because they hate Trump
and of course they do, and thatis part of it, but there's so
much more at stake than justorange man bad.
You know, these are people thatare about to lose a lot of money
(12:43):
, a lot of power, and they don'tlike that.
That makes them mad, you know,because if anybody actually
stopped and I mean talking about, not talking about them, I'm
talking about the, the minions,basically the people that march
around, you know, with theirlittle signs and their angry
voices If they actually stoppedfor a minute and thought about
what's actually happening, thatyou know, not only is, is the
(13:05):
Trump administration trying togive back the States, therefore
the people, back their powerwhere it belongs and and
decision-making, which is, youknow, in their minds.
That's what they're arguing for, but they're technically
arguing for more big government,federal government, involved in
their lives, making decisionsfor them, like the stupidity of
(13:25):
what they are actually arguingagainst is constantly mind
blowing to me.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah, I mean there's lists of the things that they're
arguing against, but at theroot of it all, for me, my
opinion is is it?
It's what facilitates all of it?
Is big gov, right?
Right, because they do it isthey want a nanny state, they
want government control.
They want big gov.
They, they want decisions madefor them.
They, you know they don't, andand at the upper echelons, they
(13:54):
don't trust americans to makedecisions for themselves.
They don't trust.
You know they think this isthat.
You know there's 50 ways.
You know there are 50 examplesof this and you can talk.
Voter ID law is the perfect one.
There's literally no reason.
You know the made up reason isoh, you know, poor people can't.
You know, they have such a hardtime getting identification.
(14:15):
So, so fix the identificationprocess, right, right, like what
you've got.
You know, every two years wehave an election day.
How about for those two yearsin between elections?
You work to fix theidentification.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, If that was the the real problem that they
really well, if that was whatthey really believe to be the
problem.
There's your solution, and thatis so par for the course of
what they do, they pick out orcreate problems.
Never a solution, Never, everwill you see a solution to a
problem come from these people.
(14:49):
They don't want the problemsolved.
It's like it really is thatsimple, Like if you took it down
to bare bones, right?
If the problems are solved, ifthe people are self-sufficient,
if they don't need government togive them their cell phone or
their you know groceries or anyof those things, they're out of
(15:11):
a job.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
That's it, and listen it's, it's big pharma.
Big pharma treats people.
They don't care anybody.
It's the same thing, right?
This is.
It's the same mentality, youknow, and government dependency
is what they want.
Government dependency is whatyou know and that's why there
was the all of the illegalimmigration, which is what
SCOTUS just flipped over, rightas we can start or continue to
deport all these people.
(15:33):
But it was all about, you know,and they've readily admitted it
now, like it's been, it's comeout a couple of times now that
the entire purpose behind thatwas to bring them to the United
States to overload you, tooverload districts and get
enough voters in to keepDemocrats in office.
That's all it was.
We all knew that's what it was.
But now it's been really kindof out there, and so thankfully
we're fixing those kinds ofthings and shrinking the
(15:54):
government with Doge andhopefully we can get rid we'll
never get rid of the nanny statementality, but hopefully we can
at least reduce the nanny stateto a manageable level reduce
the nanny state to a manageablelevel.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, I just think that you know more people need
to educate themselves and beaware of you know the expenses
that the, the money that's goingout to you know God knows where
.
I think there was just a.
They just put it out there abig a graph the numbers of
illegal aliens collecting socialsecurity, right, did you see
that?
No, it's like it's insane.
I'll try and find it, if I findit, I'll put it up there and
(16:28):
everything.
But the numbers are wild, it'sjust wild.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Listen, there's plenty of examples.
You know our favorite, our newfavorite idiot, jasmine Crockett
.
See this Supposedly hergrandmother has been dead for
over 10 years and they justforgot to tell the social
security office and have beencashing checks.
I did not see that I've seen itListen, that was.
That was one of those thatinitially, when I saw it, I was
(16:53):
like this is crap, it's bogus,it's whatever.
But I've seen it in enoughplaces and enough different
sources that there is somevalidity to it.
So you know Um.
So you know it's, um, it'severywhere, like that kind of
stuff's everywhere and we justgot it.
You know, doge has just got tokeep digging and I'm all for it.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, same here and they need to keep exposing it.
At some point these people haveto actually look at it.
Although you know, I've seenpeople plenty of times.
You, you hand them and I knowyou've seen it too, we've all
seen it it you hand them facts,documented, verifiable facts,
and they're like nope, don'twant to hear it, orange man, bad
End of story.
And it's like I mean, I don'tknow how much more you know.
(17:32):
I guess you don't care aboutyour money, I guess you don't
care about your home.
You know that's what they liketo say to us, right, you know?
Oh, I guess you don't careabout women, I guess you don't
care about trans people, suiciderates, Like that's what they.
They try and guilt.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
So maybe if we turn that around a little bit, they
just had a whole day of protestsabout it, Elsa.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
What they did, yeah Right, I hadn't heard a thing
about it.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
So, if someone can tell me because I saw probably a
dozen different signs liketopics, not different signs,
different topics on differentsides, right For hands off.
Now, you think initially handsoff would be the hands off my
body, women's, you know it wouldbe an abortion rally, whatever
(18:22):
it is.
So it was so broad.
Beyond that, it was hands-offeducation.
It was hands-off.
I mean, it was every you knoweverything, which is amazing
because that's libertarian right, like that, this.
Now they're protesting.
(18:42):
Now they're protesting as aslibertarians, they want less
government impact on their lives, which I think is what we've
all been trying to work towards,right yeah, it's like okay,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
That's literally what we've been saying thank you for
agreeing with us.
Angrily, I mean, I it's so.
You have to laugh like you.
You have to laugh at this, you,you have to laugh at this.
It's too absurd to even believelike okay.
So what was one of them?
Hands off our kids yeah, weagree with you.
(19:12):
Get your hands off our kids.
Teach them reading and math,take out gender studies, like.
Leave our kids the hell alone.
How about that?
Look, yay, we all agree, soexciting.
Hands off our bodies, orprotect women.
You're like which one is it?
I don't even know.
We can agree with that too.
(19:34):
Get men out of women's lockerrooms how about that?
Protect them Common sense.
It sounds like we're agreeingit about time again, I I
honestly don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah, what if there is a consistent thread through
all of these?
I I don't understand what it is, because it seems like there's
just a big label plastered on itand really what it is is anti,
anti-trump, yes, okay, fine, ifthat's what it is, just call it
that.
Like, let's not make itsomething.
It's not right.
Um, so you know, and ithappened.
I think all 50 states was it.
(20:09):
Did it happen?
Did it hit it all?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I think it hit them I'm not even sure to tell you
truth.
I mean quite a few.
I know.
You know there's, so you knowthere's so much side stuff that
goes on.
You know people getting caughtlike somebody shared what they
claim to be um a video in avideo of this massive and I'm
not saying that they weren't big, but basically it looked like I
(20:31):
don't even know.
Well, it looked like a Trumprally is what it looked like,
because there were so manypeople and then somebody you
know did like a reverse AIlookup on it and they're like,
yeah, nice, try, that's from youknow, whatever something else
you know, so a lot of those tomake it look bigger.
A lot of videos of I think thatLaura Loomer, I think, is her
name, has video of them busingprotesters in with their
(20:57):
pre-made signs and you knowtheir corporate sponsors and all
of that stuff.
There's a video I saw of a guywhen he was being interviewed.
They're like, well, what areyou?
What are you angry about?
What do you?
What hands off?
And he pulls out his piece ofpaper and he's like oh, we, we
are angry because you can't.
Just you don't know why you'reangry.
You've got to read why you'reangry, funny.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Yeah, there's a.
I saw another one.
I saw those, the reverse AIlookup.
I thought was amazing, that wasperfect, like, again, we're,
we're finding great uses for AI.
Um, that was one of them.
I know you know some of likethey were.
There was a couple of them thatwere like um, were the parades
for, like, sporting events, likethose kinds of you know Um, so,
yes, there was a lot offabrication to that.
(21:39):
Yes, there was a lot of like,take the photo from a certain
angle, you get the AOC effect,you know.
Yes, like, oh, my God, look atall these people and actually
it's like 14.
But I did see another thing.
There was a lady who was likeyou know, okay, I'm going to,
I'm going to jump in on this.
She's a conservative and she'slike, I'm just going to pretend
(22:01):
that I'm a protester.
And so she, through through acontact or two, she kind of got
some information about theseprotests, about the you know the
hands off marches or whateverthey were, and so she followed
some instructions and it waslike okay, show up, don't wear
anything red, like.
So there was guidance, right,yeah, no, red hats, but no,
really nothing red, you know,blah, blah.
(22:22):
So she's like okay.
So I just dressed in black,black top and bottom and they're
like okay.
So when you get there at thiscorner, you know.
Finally, if there's a ladythere with blue hair and a nose
ring and she's like well, Ifigured everybody was going to
have blue hair and a nose ring.
And she goes, but the lady wasparticularly easy to find.
So the lady said I brought myown sign and she said it was
(22:44):
very innocuous.
It was, I think, hands off oureducation, or something like
that.
And then so the lady there withthe blue hair and the nose ring
was like okay, you need to goto this location, you need to
walk this path and then, at theend, see this person and you'll
get paid.
So there is right, there wassome truth.
We're starting to get sometraction on what we all again
(23:15):
knew to be true back on 2020,back in the Antifa stuff.
You know that, that these arepaid protesters and people will
do anything for a buck.
So you know, this is again.
If it was an anti-Trump protest, just let it be an anti-Trump
protest, right.
Why put another name on it?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
And you know, again, it's, it's preying on these
people are preying on becausethere were, there were quite a
few people, you know, we don'twant to minimize that, there
were people there of their ownvolition, because they really
believe in you know, their causeof the moment absolutely out of
(23:49):
their minds, hysterical yellingand shaking their fists and
waving their signs and themental illness oozing off of
them.
And you know, and these are thepeople I actually, I really feel
for them because they are theirbrains, their minds are so
warped, they are so angry andthey don't even understand why
they're angry.
Like it's scary to watch that'sthe part to me that's scary to
(24:10):
watch that they have been sounbelievably brainwashed into
this mentality, this ragementality, and they just, they
just keep feeding, feeding themental illness and and loving it
and enjoying it, enjoying itand, you know, throwing a few
bucks out and whatever thatmeans.
And I think I also heard Idon't know if you heard this
that not necessarily all theprotests, but there was a
(24:32):
particular one where Iapparently, like it hit a
certain time of the day and likeeverybody just packed up and
left, like this massive cohort,they just clocked out, clicked
on the back of the dinosaur intheir car, pedaled away.
Exactly that was I.
I'm I'm ready to sing theFlintstones theme right now.
(24:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
So I have no doubt whatsoever.
You know, I and I've seen a fewclips of, you know, people
walking and filming, you know,and then, of course, somebody in
a mask, always somebody in amask, you know, comes up to
filming you know.
and then, of course, somebody ina mask always somebody in a
mask, you know comes up to himand says who are you, what are
you doing here?
And it's like I'm just filming,you know.
And then all of a sudden theyget shepherded away from the
protest, you know kind of thing,which is always funny, you know
(25:20):
, in my younger days I wouldhave been that person walking
around with a red hat on youknow, like just to antagonize
people.
But you're right, the level ofmental illness and then the you
know commensurate level ofviolence associated is way out
of control.
If you walk through any, if youwalked anywhere near one of
those things with a MAGA hat on,you are you are risking bodily
(25:44):
harm.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
You are, absolutely, you're, absolutely.
There was just um, you know,and that is their, their go-to,
physical violence is their go-to, because and you see it over
and over again there was just a,a young woman, a pro-life um
advocate, or I don't know if shehas a podcast, you must and she
was interviewing people on thestreet and, uh, she was a woman
came up and they were having aheated, heated exchange and the
(26:08):
woman just couldn't take itanymore and she sucker punched
her, she just popped her rightin the face.
You see, that one.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
There was actually two of them, so I don't know
which one.
There was two of them and itwas.
I think in both cases it wasabortion, was the you know the
issue.
It was abortion was the youknow the issue and it literally
was.
So somebody was like, well,wait a minute, you know, and
they just they challenged someof the you know lies associated,
you know, they've beenassociated for decades with the
entire argument and andliterally, because they couldn't
(26:37):
, you know these women couldn'tdefend against you know logic
and their reflex was close fistboom, punch the lady right in
the face.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, yeah, that's that is time and again, that is
the go-to, and you know, and,and it's this is why we say all
the time, not so that that kindof confrontation happens.
But this is why we talk aboutwe being people on the right.
Talk about facts, knowing yourfacts, being able to argue any
(27:09):
topic, anything that they mightcome at you with, with their
feelings, and ask them tocounter it.
Ask them to counter the facts,like here.
Here is a fact.
Like I understand your feelings, like I have feelings too, you
know, I mean, we all havefeelings, but they don't make
things true.
Just because you feel somethingdoesn't make it's true.
Facts make things true and theycan't.
(27:32):
They can't do it.
They can't do it, so they gostraight to rage and they can't
do it because they haven't beentaught how to do it.
These are people that have comethrough you know these, and I'm
not.
I'm kind of bashing publicschool system, um, but I'm more
bashing the on the college level, on the university level,
because it's that's where itreally, I think, manifest the
(27:55):
most.
Um, that's just the breedingground.
Like they have truly,completely gotten them away from
the parents, the influence ofthe parents, and now the
indoctrination is just going togo.
We're going hard and full forceat it.
And you see so many times likepeople, girls in particular it
seems like girls in particular,and there's whole reasoning
behind that.
You see those I'm sure you'veseen them those like first day
(28:17):
of college pictures, and theyjust look fresh faced and ready
to take on this next adventurein life.
And then you see them at theend of their college or maybe in
the middle of their collegeexperience, and they are a shell
of themselves.
You know, they've chopped offall their hair.
Now they think they're a boy.
They've got everything piercedand their hair whatever's left
(28:40):
of it is blue and it's like oh,how can we not connect the dots
here?
Like the dots?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
are very easy to connect.
All you have to do is look atthe evolution of Rachel Maddow.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Oh my goodness, that's a great example.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Beautiful young lady, blonde hair, truthfully doesn't
even look like what we seetoday.
So crazy to me as a, as a younggirl, I think, probably like
the earliest picture younormally get is maybe like end
of high school or maybe early incollege, so she's in that 18,
19 ish range and then evolutionof of what happens to her
physically right, exactly whatyou're talking about.
(29:16):
Yeah, yeah, but you know it's.
It does start in high school.
You know you have teachers whoare police, you have teachers
who have an agenda and then inthe classroom it becomes very.
You know kids who want to speakout.
They get shunned and shut down.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, and they get physically attacked as well.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
And they do, and then , and then, when it gets to
college, you know, but then theystill have parents to stick up
for them, right, you know.
And then, but you're right,they get to college and they're
kind of on their own.
And you know, I totallydisagree with the idea of a
college professor throwing youout of class because you're a
paying customer, like you knowand listen, I got thrown out of
(29:56):
class as a freshman in a mathclass because we had a teacher
who, literally, for the firstseven classes, bought the exact
same problem.
Like he didn't even change thenumbers in the problem.
Yeah, so, and like the seventhclass, seventh time hearing this
, I'm sitting next to this girland we just start talking
because we've seen this sixtimes already.
(30:17):
He turned around and you know,he, you know, pointed me out
what are you talking about?
Stop talking to class.
I was like you've taught usthis seven.
And he threw me out of classand I was like, so, like, as a
paying customer, I I'm totallyopposed to that at the
collegiate level, but you'reright it, it totally destroys
the idea of discourse.
Grown up, you know, rationaldiscussion without emotion,
(30:39):
without animation, that ateacher and instructor,
professor, should sit back andmoderate and not participate in
Right Right and make sure thatboth sides are being expressed
civilly with.
You know intent and intentionand and, and they moderate that
and, but that's not being done.
So you know what I get it.
People misunderstand thedifference between opinion and
(31:02):
if you're stating your opinionis fact, right, I have opinions
on a lot of things, I post themall the time.
People come after me for myopinion and they're like prove
that.
I'm like, I don't have to, it'smy opinion, right, right.
Well, such and such and suchand such, prove it Like.
I don't have to prove it, it'smy opinion, right, that's what
you and I do.
We're pundits, right, and wespeak.
We're not news reporters.
(31:22):
We've said this a thousandtimes on this show, but people
mistake that and that's part ofthe problem as well.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
So yeah, absolutely.
That's a great point and that'sso true.
You know we can state a factabout something and then discuss
our opinion on it, like AmyBear Cohen.
You know there's fact and thenthere's opinion and, like you
said, we can have whateveropinion on it that we want.
You can you being the viewer orlistener, whichever the case is
(31:48):
you can disagree with it, it'sall good.
I've never had a time whereI've felt like you know, I'm
going to say these things andeveryone has to agree with me.
Like can you, can you imagine,just like imagine for a moment
having that mindset, like Ican't even wrap my brain around
being that arrogant, first ofall, that I would think that my
(32:09):
opinion is the only right one.
Like I, I'm fine with saying Icould have something wrong, I
could have a lot of things wrongand I don't mind listening to
other perspectives.
You know, you give me back upyour argument if you want to,
and you know, and if I want to,I'll back up mine, but no
requirement to.
We're just not.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
No, I don't work for you.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
No, yeah, I love when people, I love when people in
comment sections right Show meyour facts, show me, show me the
article you got that from, dude, do your own research.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, and again, I owe you nothing If I'm
expressing my opinion.
I owe you and unfortunately,you know kind of where we
started all this is.
You get into a violent responsewhen you don't give them what
they want, when you disagree,you provide an opposing opinion
or you don't, you know, abide bytheir wishes.
That's what you get as aviolent response.
(32:59):
You know, like these ladiesthat we were talking about, and
unfortunately you know, goingback to the idea of walking with
a red hat in the middle ofthese, you know hands off
protests.
You know you're going to get,you're going to get messed up,
because that is the reflex now.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yes, yeah, yeah, very different reflex and response
when the shoe is on the otherfoot.
Oh, very different.
Yeah, mostly peaceful protests.
You remember those?
Oh, yeah, yes, yeah, yeah.
My favorite was always that onewith the riots and that she's I
(33:34):
don't know if it was a man orwoman reporter saying, but the
mostly peaceful, and literallybehind them burning, burning
down like flames, shooting upsmoke, and people running back
and forth with, like you know,giant TVs on their shoulder,
like mostly peaceful, with, likeyou know, giant TVs on their
shoulder, like mostly peaceful.
Okay, we believe that.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
And listen.
There's plenty nowadays thatthere's a visceral reaction to,
you know, and, and the everevolving one is, you know, is
the tariffs.
And, and you know I'm far froman economist but I, you know, I
understand common sense.
I do understand the economy.
I am not a studied, deepstudied economist, you know.
So I guess you know.
The question is, I'll ask youfirst, how do you think this is
(34:16):
going?
I mean, this is presidentTrump's brain trust, this is his
baby.
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah, so I mean, I've been for all along simply on
the premise of why?
Why are we getting takenadvantage of the way that we are
?
From these other countries?
This seems like a matter ofcourse, and yes, it's, you know,
scary to a degree.
You know you're talking, butwe're talking about our money.
We're talking about how wespend on things.
(34:41):
I get all of that, but at thesame time there's there has to
come a point where you actuallyliterally do put America first,
and if that means buyingAmerican, getting companies to
come back here that have leftand investing in America, I'm
willing to take the hit shortand wait it out, and, and I'm
(35:03):
even less than you involved inunderstanding the all of that
stuff.
Like I, I actually recoil fromit that I don't even like.
You know I'd like to be likeyou know the, the, the old
school foreigners that used tostick money under the mattress.
You know what I mean.
Like, if it was up to me,that's how I would live.
Like if I can't see it in myhand, it doesn't exist.
(35:25):
Like that's how old school Iwould prefer to be.
I'm not a risk takerfinancially, None of it.
I want zero to do with any ofit.
I just like to, I get a littleblack and white with it.
I like what feels like commonsense to me and this feels like
common sense to me.
And you know, and I think I'mprobably kind of right here,
because I think the number is upto like 75 countries now want
(35:48):
to come to the table and talk topresident Trump.
And you know, and he's beenvery like, just hang tight,
folks, hang tight, just hunkerdown for a minute.
And I think major people likewho, Dave Ramsey, I think, Suze
Orman are all saying the samething.
They're like calm down, it'sgoing to be fine.
This is not the first time thatthe market has fluctuated,
(36:08):
where we've had drops, and we'vehad worse ones than this.
And the minute he says, youknow, I think it was today it
jumped up again because he putit out there that these
countries want to come to thetable and have a conversation.
Now, you know, China, of course, is the big one and I got you
know, no pun intended, but I gotmy money on Trump, on this.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Yeah, and that's you know.
You know me, I'm not a Crenshawfan.
He said the same thing Don'tbet against President Trump.
You know so today.
You know Crenshaw supportsTrump.
So note that today, by the way,wednesday, we're a little early
today, yes, were 3.30 East Coasttime, a little earlier than
normal.
But the tariffs, you're right,there's a level of fairness
associated with this.
(36:55):
We get tariffs imposed on usand we don't reciprocate with
other nations, right, there'snot a lot of fairness there,
because we've allowed it tohappen, or it's been a tool of
diplomacy in the past, which youknow.
That's what part of this is.
That's what people lose sightof.
(37:16):
They think this is a completelyfinancial decision, and it's
not.
You know, in some cases it is,but in most cases this is about
diplomacy and this is about amessage to, you know, the EU.
Specifically.
It's a message to China, it's amessage to others out there
that we, you know, we aren'tgoing to be taking advantage of,
financially or otherwise.
So you know, I am on board withthat.
(37:39):
I am on board with the factthat the market has always
recovered.
The fact that the market hasalways recovered.
Okay, every single time themarket has come back.
What I hate the most about thisis the media, and you know
people who don't listen.
Only 8% of the United States isinvested in the stock market.
Let's not turn this into this.
You know like the whole worldis ending for our entire
(38:09):
population, because it's not,but you only lose money on the
stock market if you sell belowwhat you bought it at, and
that's why all of theseeconomists and the president are
saying just wait.
Settle down, hang on.
Oh, by the way, if you have theability and they've all come
out, including the president,have all come out and said this
this is not a rich person'ssecret.
This is reality.
If you have the means to buyright now, buy Because it's low
(38:33):
right now.
They acknowledge that they knewthis was coming right.
So invest now if you have theability right, and then the
market's going to rebound andit's going to increase your
value.
But everybody who keeps sayingoh, he's lost people thousands
of dollars in their retirement,oh, tens of thousands of dollars
, Only if they panicked.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I was just going to say only if they panicked, right
.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Yeah, If they panicked and sold right.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Here's my favorite thing right now about President
Trump and his level ofconsistency on who he is and who
he says he is and how he feelsabout things.
He has been talking about thisfor decades decades that we're
getting taken advantage of, andhow he would do it differently
and what he would do and youknow, I'm I'm so.
(39:17):
He's had this plan for a very,very long time, even if it was
just a, you know, a dream and anidea at one point to to see
this come to fruition.
So this isn't just a.
He woke up one morning and saidI'm going to slap some tariffs
on people, like shut up people.
That's not the case.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
And his theory in all of this is that we go back to
free income tax.
Yes, that all of these tariffsincoming goods pay to run our
government.
Yes, you don't have to havefederal income tax or we have an
extremely low income tax foreveryone.
Right, and listen.
(39:54):
There are people are going tobe angry about that.
They're always going to sayrich people should pay, you know
, to fund poor people, whatever.
But the reality is is that thisis tied together in the
president's brain.
Tariffs are not just adiplomatic tool.
They're not just an economictool to bring business back to
the United States.
They're also a tool to pay forour government, the operation of
(40:15):
our government, to relieve thatburden from the average citizen
.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
And who could possibly not agree at this point
that we aren't taxed to death?
We are so taxed to death atthis point that we aren't taxed
to death.
We are so taxed to death Likeprobably the biggest reason why
I would say everybody, justsettle down and give it a hot
damn minute to see how this isgoing to play out, cause I think
we're going to win on this.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Yeah, our founding fathers would have been burning
stuff by now.
Absolutely the amount of taxesthat we're paying.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
No question about it.
Yeah, no question about it.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Washington DC would have looked like Southern
California.
It would have been lit, I mean,to the ground.
You know, 200 years ago.
So you know the tariffs.
I think again does it on paper.
Look, you know, a little badright now.
Sure, it does.
Right, we're in this trade warwith China, I think just before
we started recording, it bumpedup again, president.
(41:05):
He's like a guy at an auctionlike you're going to go 84.
I'm going 125.
You know what I mean.
And that's China.
But you're right, there's been75-ish at this point, countries
who've said, hey, let's talkabout this, right and good.
But you've got.
You know, the other side ofthis is bringing all of this
industry capability back to theUnited States, and good.
(41:29):
So I think you know the shortsighted folks are panicked.
I think those patients andwho've been through these things
before at least have anunderstanding.
You know, they know to play thelong game and it's all going to
turn out.
I have faith that it is goingto turn out the way the
president, you know, has plannedit.
You know the outlier is Chinaand I don't, truthfully, I don't
.
I don't think they really careabout the economic impact.
(41:51):
Yeah, so many assets that itdoesn't even matter to them.
We could probably.
We could probably tariff themfor 400% and they wouldn't care.
I mean, they would be upset butthe money wouldn't matter.
They pay the tariffs, but they,you know we just turn into a,
you know, pissing contest.
So, but I think everything else, including the EU, you know
they're all going to come around.
I did see an interesting one, ayoung lady, english English,
(42:15):
yeah, she's English.
She predicted that thesetariffs will be the end of the
EU, interesting, you know,obviously, the Brits, and Brexit
and all that stuff.
They've had their day.
But she foresees this to be apoint of argument within the EU
where many member nations aregoing to go let's go negotiate,
(42:37):
and then you'll have a numberthat will be of the opposite
mindset and it has the potentialto over fine, you know, over
financial decisions break the EUapart over these tariffs.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Very interesting.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Yeah, never thought of that one.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
No, no, I definitely wouldn't.
I can tell you that right now Idefinitely would have never
even thought of it.
Fascinating stuff.
So I mean, obviously we'regoing to keep watching that and
see what happens, and and I Ireally hope to have one of our
favorite I told you so moments.
I would really like to havethat.
So, president Trump, if youcould get on that and give us
the I told you so moment, wewould much appreciate.
(43:14):
Oh, my goodness, what are wemoving on to next, clay?
Oh, this one.
This is so heartbreaking.
I just, you know, as a parent,uh, as a parent whose kid played
sports, I know you can relateto that as well.
I this is not something youcould ever imagine happening.
(43:35):
It is so senseless.
I just, and then more senselesssenselessness after.
Is the the senselessness after.
Is the public reaction right?
What's going on?
That it's politicized, thatit's all of the things.
I'm I'm a little bit speechless, play I, I'm just so sad by
(43:56):
this.
Speaker 4 (43:57):
So, for those of you that aren't tracking, um, high
school tech, texas high schooltrack meet and I ran for four
years in high school and I cantell you they are for families
the most boring thing, uh, isfor high school sporting event,
right For the minute, twominutes, four minutes, whatever
that your kid is running, yeah,that's it.
The other nine hours that thesethings take are like paint
(44:19):
drying.
So, truthfully, a lot ofparents, a lot of family members
, they'll go there watch theirchild compete.
Sure, right, because again, youknow it's it's, it is what it
is.
Um, so in this case, uh, ayoung male, uh, white athlete,
was sitting in the bleachers ata track meet and his name
(44:39):
escapes me, but a young male,black athlete.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Was that Austin Metcalf, I think.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Austin Metcalf, the young male black athlete, and I
only remember his name becausehis name is Carmelo Anthony,
which would give that former NBAplayer, but his name is spelled
with a K, if I remembercorrectly.
So Carmelo Anthony, forwhatever reason you know,
basically says to this kid hesays, hey, I'm sitting there,
you're in my seat or you need tomove over, or whatever.
And it was, like you know, aminor altercation over a seat in
(45:08):
the bleachers and, and you know, carmelo Anthony goes and he
gets a knife and he stabs thiskid to death right there in the
bleachers.
Yeah, and he dies over a seatin the bleachers.
Like this is a stupid level ofviolence over absolutely nothing
.
Right, and I think that thisgoes back to the, you know, the
(45:28):
youth of America notcomprehending their actions for
a number of reasons.
But the reaction by the publicis what's?
Speaker 2 (45:39):
truly disgusting about this entire thing.
Yeah, it really is.
It really is.
It's so disheartening, it's sopredictable and maybe that's the
part that frustrates me themost.
It's like it's so predictable.
There's one side, you know,calling it a race issue and
screaming about not screaming,but you know basically saying,
(45:59):
oh, if the shoe was on the otherfoot, you know this would be
talked about and they're notwrong on that, by the way.
You know the media would betalking about this to no end.
And the flip side of that isthey're saying that this kid,
carmelo, was being bullied andblah, blah, blah.
And now they've got to go fundme for him and it's raised, you
know, hundreds of thousands ofdollars.
(46:20):
And there's this side and thatside and everybody's, you know,
just arguing over this.
You know I'm trying to say theword this BS of all of it, and
there may be parts where youknow both sides are right about
what they're saying and whattheir perception is of what
happened, but it doesn't changethe fact that a family has just
(46:43):
horrifically lost their son inone of the most senseless acts
that you could possibly havehappen to your child, to your
family.
I think he died in his twinbrother's arms.
I don't know Right.
I think he died in his twinbrother's arms.
I don't know Right.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
That makes me so ill that that poor boy is going to
live with that memory for therest of his life that family is
is destroyed, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
And then you know, for this kid, carmelo Anthony,
he just ruined his life.
His life is potentiallyessentially over in a very
different way, of course.
I mean, he certainly has, youknow, life that he can live.
So much is happening with thatright now that, I think,
(47:29):
reflects so poorly on us as apeople, right.
Speaker 4 (47:34):
So the GoFundMe was up over 600,000, but that was
for Carmelo Anthony's defensefolks.
So that's what was being raised.
I heard today, like about anhour or so before we went on,
that that GoFundMe has been shutdown.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Really.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Interesting.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
I don't know if that's true or not.
I didn't have a chance toconfirm it.
Yeah, but that's an interestingmove by GoFundMe if it's been
shut down.
Because they're usually Well,they're usually like as long as
you're not endorsing criminalactivity or participating in
criminal activity, they're like,hey, whatever Right.
And so, on the surface of this,that's not what this is.
(48:14):
And again, folks, I had not hadthe ability to confirm that,
but I did hear that.
So there was but the reactionby society that says you know,
hundreds of thousands of dollarsfor his defense, or killing
another child over a seat in thebleachers.
Listen, you can say bullyingall you want.
(48:35):
Listen, you can claim racismall you want, but unless there
was a violent act thatprecipitated this, that
initiated this, that you knowMetcalf started that, that you
know Carmelo Anthony was in fearfor his life, which does not
appear to be the case there isno excuse.
You will never convince me thatthat is a reasonable response to
(48:58):
any of this.
To get a knife out of your bagand stab a kid to death, yeah.
And the reaction by that manypeople to donate that much money
to defend this young man on thepremise that this is a racial
incident which we have novalidation, None whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
And I'll tell you what.
That's the biggest reason.
I have not discussed this onany of my platforms at all.
I haven't even shared thearticle, I haven't given an
opinion on it.
Um again, and you and I havetalked about this many times
over many different um topics,cases, whatever the case, is
that, um, I'm, I'm not going todo it, I don't want to speculate
(49:36):
, I don't know.
So I'll you know if and whenthe actual facts that are
favorite word, again, there itis, again facts come out, you
know, then I will be able tohave a bigger opinion on this.
You know, right now, I'm viewingit as just a horrific tragedy.
I do find it appalling, I agreewith you.
I do find it it as just ahorrific tragedy.
(49:57):
I do find it appalling, I agreewith you.
I do find it appalling.
How many people are, or were, Iguess, donating to this GoFundMe
on that premise?
You know, it's absurd becausewe don't know, you know, and
that being the point, that wedon't know at this point, we
know what people are saying, butwe don't know what's accurate
and true.
And yeah, I mean, they'rebasically, they're basically
(50:19):
trying to George Floyd him.
They, you know, before you knowit.
They're going to be trying toget a statue put up of this kid
and you know he's there.
He's their poster boy of themoment of.
You know what they will call.
You know oppression, bullying,oppression.
You know race inequality thisis.
You know clearly where they'regoing with all of this and you
(50:41):
know I would say shame on themand shame on anyone who is
taking, taking a situation andcreating their own narrative
about it and running with itRight.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
Yeah, and this is this, you know, harkens back to
the Daniel Penny, right, right,you know so he was.
You know, we know a few that weknew a few things before the
trial.
Right, we knew he was on thetrain, we knew he was a former
Marine, we knew that he waswhite.
We knew that the victim wasblack.
We knew that the victim had Ishouldn't say victim, because
(51:13):
that's not what that was.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
That's the man who died on the train.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
Yeah, you know it's only bad decisions.
Yeah, right, was was, you know,had mental health issues, he
had a criminal record, he was,you know, and by all accounts,
he was intimidating and scaringpeople on the train.
People just took that all overthe place and, you know, penny
got, you know he got attackedand you know he got vilified.
You know he got attacked andand you know he got, uh, he was,
you know, criminalized and alland all of these things.
(51:39):
And and now we've gotessentially, uh, you know, in
the victim, which is what wasbeing called on the train, the
man who died, like he was avictim.
And now we have roles and racesare reversed, right, so now you
have a young black man whoattacked the young white man,
you know, and who you know, byall accounts, there was no
(52:00):
threat of violence.
There was no, you know.
But we don't know the facts.
But already people arepredetermining, based on
headlines and, let's be honest,skin color, which side they are
voting on this issue, thisincident, before anything else
comes out.
I mean, this was within hours.
People were donating money tothis and they don't even know
what happened.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Nope, nope, they don't care.
All they know is that it was awhite person versus a black
person, and so you know, that isan automatic.
Doesn't matter who's, thatDoesn't matter, none of it
matters, just white versus black.
And of course, the media is,like you know, foaming at the
mouth because, oh good, now wehave, you know, now we have a
(52:41):
concrete thing to be makingeveryone divisive over, in
fighting over, in hating eachother.
And this is the part that I amso beyond sick and tired.
I'm so sick and tired of themedia manipulation of everyone.
I cannot even take it anymoreand I can't take the gullibility
(53:04):
and the willingness to be ledlike stupid sheep and falling
into this whole, you know, usversus them narrative, and you,
you know.
But here we are again.
It's only going to get bigger,it's only going to get uglier,
and then, when all the factscome out and it doesn't go the
way that they think it does, um,it's just going to pretend like
(53:28):
it never happened.
Speaker 4 (53:28):
And don't drop this kid like a sack of potatoes,
because that kid listen, youknow if, if and if that young
man goes to jail, you will neverhear another word about him
again.
Nope, no, um, you know, for allthe people that are supporting
him right now and all this otherstuff, you will never hear
another word about that youngman again.
He is being exploited for whohe is and what happened by.
(53:51):
You know a lot of people,including the media and folks.
If you don't think that you'rebeing manipulated by the media,
let me share a statistic withyou the view, everybody's
favorite group of videos.
Right, they.
They have been for thiscalendar year, right, and we are
april 9th today, right, thiscalendar year they have six have
had 63 guests on their show sofar this calendar year.
(54:15):
Not a single conservative, notone.
So if you don't think that themedia is manipulating you by
limiting exposure, having goodand listen, I get it, it's an
entertainment show, but theydiscuss politics ad nauseum
every day, right, but it is allstupidly.
(54:35):
But all stupidly, but all thetime it's all one-sided.
You are only getting their side63 and 0, right, 63 to 0,
that's what you're getting.
So if you think you're not, youknow the media itself.
Oh, by the way, abc Guilty,owned by Disney.
You know, if you think you'renot being manipulated, there's
(54:57):
proof, that is undeniable proof,that media outlet, specifically
that show, is one-sided.
It's not an accident, folks.
63 to 0 is not an accident.
No, okay, no, that is If it was63 to 1, if it was 63 to 1, I
would believe that 1 is anaccident Right.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Yeah, it's very true.
Yeah, yeah, it's.
You know, again, it constantlyblows my mind that that show is
on the air still, that anybodyactually watches it, aside from
using it as fodder for, you know, jokes and and yeah, but yeah,
I mean people, people watch itin earnest.
(55:35):
They think that these ladiesare smart and that they have
witty commentary, like I'm.
I need to meet these peoplebecause I want, I want to take
them to see if they have a braintumor or something that makes
them believe such silly things.
But yeah, I mean, that's agreat example of what is
happening in mainstream, wherethey call it somebody called it
(55:57):
the alphabet media.
I like that, the alphabet media.
This is what they do.
I mean, I can't beg peopleenough to watch things that you
don't agree with, watch thingsthat have a different
perspective, a differentviewpoint.
You know, I mean to findsomething.
I don't know what's neutralanymore.
I mean to find something.
I don't know what's neutralanymore.
(56:17):
I mean, if neutral exists, Idon't, I don't know it.
I don't know any of the.
I can't even recommend a newssource for you that is truly
unbiased.
I does it exist, clay?
I don't even know.
Speaker 4 (56:29):
I think the only thing that I have found so far I
think it's is it 1440, 440nightly news.
So I caught, I catch it on WGN,the old Chicago station, so
they do have a nightly news.
That is to me about the closestthing you can get to unbind
they.
They very little editorializingand and it surprised me because
(56:52):
I caught it one night and I waslike like I felt like I was in
like 1985 again.
I was like what is this?
And it literally is.
It is.
It is a lot of reporting andit's a lot of facts, it is some
analysis, but it is very littleeditorializing.
I think it's called 1440 or 440nightly news, something like
that.
But they're, they're prettygood, but other than that,
there's, there's nothing outthere.
(57:12):
There's nothing out there.
Yeah, and listen folks, fox isbiased too.
Absolutely, they are, noquestion, no question.
You know, I know Gutfeld rulesnighttime TV.
I know he does.
I enjoy bits and pieces ofGutfeld.
I love Tyrus.
You know Kat Timpf is great.
All the best to her.
I hope she's recovering well.
For those of you that don'tknow, she had the baby got
(57:33):
diagnosed right before withbreast cancer, double mastectomy
.
Brave, brave woman.
I hope she's recovering, but Iwatch it for the funny because
I'm not an idiot, right?
Gut, health is not news people,and that's what we've all got
to do a better job ofunderstanding and, like you said
, find other stuff.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
Find other stuff, watch things that you disagree
with.
Just get different.
Listen, I have become I'mtattletaling on myself here I
have become a fan of chat GPTand people are going to yell at
me in the comments.
They're going to be mad at me,and I understand that.
But if you know how to give itthe prompt, then you can get
(58:14):
some really great information.
One of the things you canactually use chat GPT for is to
research these things for you,find out, put it in there, just
say and I know I know a lot ofpeople are going to be you know
the hard line.
They're like nope, not using it, don't want anything to do with
it.
I'm I'm more concerned aboutgetting a rounded picture of
what's happening in the worldand just to be able, just so I
(58:37):
can talk about it at least alittle bit and not say stupid
things.
You know I mean I try reallyhard not to say stupid things.
It doesn't mean I'm going toaccomplish that goal all the
time, but I just feel better atthe end of the day when I'm not
dwelling on wow, I was sototally wrong on that.
You know cause I'll dwell on itfor a year.
But oh, my goodness, justquestion everything, right, and
(58:59):
we certainly would tell youdon't go by everything that we
say.
Don't take what I say as youknow.
Speaker 4 (59:06):
Please don't my goodness Listen, the only person
who's upset that you're usingchat GPT is Sarah Connor.
Speaker 2 (59:15):
That's it.
I think everybody else is usingit too.
It's just using.
It's just a matter of using it.
Speaker 4 (59:19):
It's a matter of how you use it right how you use it.
Speaker 2 (59:22):
Use it for good, not evil, people Use it to you know,
increase your knowledge.
Oh my goodness, what do we have?
Speaker 4 (59:29):
folks, we're out of time.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
We are out of time.
We had.
How many did we do?
Speaker 4 (59:36):
Six, five we had five , we did not get.
We did not get to your uh, youryour topic that you wanted to
talk today.
We'll hit that next week.
Speaker 2 (59:45):
I don't think that's going to tell you what it is.
We're going to make it asurprise next week.
Yeah, oh, my goodness, guys, asalways, we so appreciate you
hanging out with us.
I us in the comments section,Remember Clay told you in the
beginning we are recording onWednesday.
It was like 3.30.
Well, now it's whatever time itis.
Now we record during the day onWednesday.
We watch with you Thursdaynights.
(01:00:06):
We will do another live showcoming up soon.
We haven't figured out when,but we definitely will.
We just really appreciate youbeing a part of our journey on
here and don't forget to tell uswhat you think about these.
These topics Agree, disagree.
Go for it.
Go crazy, Clay, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
And close it out, hey folks.
So for all the fans of my novel, keep moving, keep shooting.
There is a big.
I got a big announcement comingout on Saturday, saturday.
So pay attention, watch onsocial media.
There's a big announcementcoming out.
Actually it's a, it's a seriesof announcements, but one big
one.
So stay tuned for that.
(01:00:43):
And, you know, maybe we'll talkabout that a little bit next
week too.
Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
We have to, we absolutely have to, and I'm like
I'm going crazy If my familywatches.
They're like how did you keepit quiet?
Cause you're not good atsecrets, elsa.
Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Yes, not saying a word, but I know something you
don't know.
Elsa knows.
So, folks, we'll again, asalways on Thursday nights, we're
in the, we're in the chat.
You know we're either aFacebook or YouTube or both.
And so until next week, keepmoving, keep shooting.
Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Take care, guys.
Bye-bye.
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