September 12, 2023 • 48 mins
Have you ever wondered how successful people initiate and create success in their lives?
Well, in our latest episode, we're joined by soul alignment activator, mentor, speaker, podcaster, and author, Keri Lynn Norley, "The Wealth Alchemist" who reveals her journey of stepping into the world of paid professional speaking. The conversation uncovers the emotional rollercoaster she experienced through this transition, and we chat about her podcast 'Unmasked' and her internationally bestselling book 'The New Wealth: Magnetize Abundance'.
Keri guides us through the fascinating concept of 'Human Design' and how it has played a significant role in her understanding of her strengths and weaknesses. We contemplate the idea of manifesting and setting in motion success, and Keri, with her wealth of experience, offers insightful, practical advice. Get ready to learn about leading from the front, paving the way, and informing people of what lies ahead.
We also tackle the common struggle many of us face - finding joy in our work and dealing with the guilt and shame of getting paid well for doing something we love. We delve into the impact that childhood education has on our personal development, and how it shapes our perceptions of our abilities. As we wrap up, Keri leaves us with some nuggets of wisdom for those contemplating a leap into the world. It's an episode rich with enlightenment for anyone looking to break into new professional territories and find fulfillment in their work.
The best place to connect with her is on Facebook at www.facebook.com/kerinorley1 and Instagram at @kerinorley
You can also check out her free Intro to Crypto training at www.kerinorley.com/cryptointro
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the show.
I'm Justin Wink.
Today, we are going to betalking about taking the leap
into something new, and I'mtaking the leap by not doing
this podcast all on my own.
I have a fantastic guest and,just to make her feel welcome, I
want to do this intro in a very, very special way.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
So Carrie Lynn Norley is the wealth alchemist.
She is an international wealthand soul alignment activator,
mentor, speaker, podcaster andauthor.
She's the author of Not One,Not Two, Crocky.
She's author of four books,Blimey, including the
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International Bestseller theWealth, the New Wealth,
Magnetize Abundance.
And that's magnetized with an S, because we're not talking
about the way us, the yanks, thefucking yanks, would spell it,
which would be with like a Z.
It's with a Z, Sorry.
Do they say Z in Aussie land ordo they say they say Z?
(01:07):
They say Z.
They say Z, they say Z, they sayZ, they say yeah so it's not
with the Z, it's magnetizedabundance Hold your wealth and
leave a legacy.
She also has an internationaltop shot podcast, the Wealth
Alchemist, and this is launchingpodcast number two.
It's not a shitty one.
It's her second podcast andit's going to be called Unmasked
(01:29):
, so look for that where yourgreater podcasts are sold.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
All right, I'm going to just stay.
The rest Am I American?
Permission and passion is tohelp shift the wealth
consciousness of the planet.
In BD, no big deal.
She speaks to healing,generational conditioning and
how that plays out inrelationships, health and
personal finances.
She is an American, aussie,living in Colorado, and loves
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dancing and good qualitychocolate.
So when she's on and you hearsome weird terms of things, I'll
make sure that we translate.
For my non Aussie speakinglisteners out there, of which I
know there are many.
The best place to connect withCarrie is on her Facebook.
At facebookcom, carrie Norleywon.
(02:20):
So Carrie Norley without thenumber one, that is a fake.
You don't want that.
But on Insta, you do want.
At Carrie Norley, it's allgoing to go on the show notes
Make it Rosie, she's.
She's also.
You've heard of crypto bros.
She's a.
Is it a crypto bra?
I think she's got a crypto brashe.
(02:41):
So she has training on crypto.
She really knows her shit.
Carrie Norleycom slash cryptointro.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Did.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I might carry no way Shrimp on the barbie I was
trying to like look out veryAussie sayings but it most start
to just reference like weirdplaces to shop and eat and
things like that.
I know Tim Hortons for theCanadians and I'm I don't need
to know anymore.
You know McDonald's iseverywhere, so I don't need to
(03:16):
know more.
Fast food Welcome to the show.
So we're talking about?
We're talking about jumpinginto, leaping into something new
, and we're not talking about,like I don't know, leaping into
something you don't want, butsomething you want, but
something that might be a littlescary, it's a little edgy, it's
(03:38):
a little bit like, oh my gosh,can I do this, should I do this?
What will people think about me?
So this is actually kind of agood follow up to the podcast I
that went out the previous week,which was about getting over
over judgments and becausepeople are just going to be
judging us, no matter what.
From the day we're born we'regetting judged.
Because I was reading somethingfrom my third grade teacher
(03:59):
that was all about my strengthsand my weaknesses and just funny
to think of, like an eight yearold.
And you know, here's whatJustin's good at, here's what
Justin's not good at.
Justin's breadth of literatureis not up to par A fucking eight
year old.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
The shit that people said hey, yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
So you're, I mean so you've, you're clearly
experienced at leaping, leapinginto things I mean from from
your bio, with books, podcasts.
What's this latest thing thatyou told me about?
And I was like let's do apodcast.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah, it's funny because I this is the first time
I'm speaking and knowing it'sgoing to be public soon.
So the decision I made last itwas last week is to move into
paid professional speaking,which isn't like, when I think
about it and we say everythingthat's just happened of, like
everything you just described,out of my world doesn't seem
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like a big leap, but in my worldfeels like a ginormous leap.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, and what?
And for you, what is the flavorof?
Like what you know?
Cause it is, it's one of those.
You hear the biography andyou're like, well, of course
people don't want to pay thisperson to come speak.
Like, look at all the thingsthat they've done.
Yeah, when you're on the otherside, when you're you and your
and your brain and all thefeelings come up, is it just
like, oh wait, and then how didyou actually, you know, move
(05:28):
into this, owning it and goinglike this is this is fucking
happening.
I'm doing this.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
That's a really good question.
I think it starts with a littlebit prior.
Is that I think?
For years?
Not, I think I know, for yearsI've been saying if I could get
paid to speak and write, I'd bea really happy woman.
And I say it over and overagain if I could get paid to
speak and write, I'd be a reallyhappy woman.
And there's a lot of people who, when you look at me from the
position, from the outside, fromeverything that you've just
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heard, I have a podcast, I havean author, I'm an author of
multiple books, I have beenspeaking for years, I have been
on big stages and the differencebeing that when you're in that,
like a lot of people think thatthere's like a lot of I'm going
to say glory in this.
Or there's a lot of financialabundance and you and I both
know, having run podcasts foryears, that like, yes, this is
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an amazing medium, but it takestime to build an audience.
It takes time for things tocome out of fruition monetarily.
From a podcast.
You can go on stages I spoke ona stage, you know, in an
international speaking.
I've been on multipleinternational stages it does not
mean that it equates to a penny, and a lot of people don't get
that.
When it comes to thisexperience and a lot of times we
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do it as speakers to be seen toget into more, into a bigger
growth of people that we get infront of.
We want to create as I'm goingto speak for myself, but the
speakers that I know, of course,we're here to create an impact
and create change and helpspread a message, right.
So I want to get out in frontof as many people as I humanly
possibly can, because I knowthat, as you said and you went,
not a big deal, changing theworld consciousness planet is no
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small feat, right, and so wehave to talk to as many people
as humanly possible in order todo that, and so the other piece
of it is that a lot of peoplewill say that in order to
actually get to quote unquotepaid speaking gigs, first of all
, some people will never takethis road.
Some people in this path thatI've been in, that you look at
from the outside and that you'rein too right, justin, like it
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doesn't equate to that people goout and get a paid speaking gig
.
It means that I can go and Ican give my services to people
and that maybe it grows thataudience and I get into my
beautiful community and into mysocial media and into my email
letters and all that stuff.
And if they choose to buy fromthere, they do.
If they don't, they don't.
That's their choice.
And it's a very differentexperience than saying I'm going
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to go and speak for 60 minutesand someone's going to pay me
thousands of dollars, and thatmy my little voice, and I say
this like because this is whathappens in my head.
Who me this little voice?
What are you talking about?
You want to pay me thousands ofdollars for 60 minutes?
Are you kidding?
Oh boy, like I've had to workso hard to get my voice heard
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other places and I think thedifference being like sometimes
when we're in this, in thisposition and I'm you know you
you might have your own parts inthis too that sometimes we see
it feels like I'm speaking to awhole bunch of I don't know like
ghosts, right, when you know Isit on a computer like this and
we put a voice out into thepodcast world.
I don't necessarily get aresponse from everybody and
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sometimes it's really lonely.
It can be really one way, right, and sometimes it's like is
there anyone out there listening?
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Right and this experience Go ahead.
Like I was on a zoom call witha bunch of other coaches
yesterday and one woman was.
Her complaint was like there'ssomeone stealing my material, I
put it out there and then she'simmediately she's creating
shirts out and I'm just thinkinglike I fucking wish someone
cared enough to steal some of mystuff.
(09:02):
Like one person's listening Alot of the time it is, but then
you, then every now, and thensomeone's like I just heard that
episode where you did thisexercise and, oh my gosh, it
made my day and that could besix months a year.
You never know.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
And it's true.
And like I run into people andthey're like I've been listening
to your show for a year.
I wait every week and I'm likehow come I didn't?
I want an hour, tell me, tellme, I want to hear from you.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
They're just quietly killing it.
They're getting the good stuff,incorporating it and going on
and living an even better life.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Right.
And so when you go into this,into this, I think for me going
into this world is like sayingthat I don't.
I'm making the choice of that,the choice that my literal 60
minutes makes thousands ofdollars versus like waiting and
hoping and like in that wholeexperience, like, oh my God,
someone really wants that and isthat?
It's that valuable.
(09:54):
Oh that's the piece for me toown into which is like, wow, and
it's not about the time, likewe know this right.
It's not about the time, like,honestly, I've been doing this
for so many years that I've putin the time right, and I always
say this is kind of like the thetime?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Time in what way do you mean, like the, the literal
60 minutes?
Or do you mean the prep time?
Or yes, it's not exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Right.
So like I'm sitting here sayingto you, like it's a paid
professional speaker, what thewhat?
The intention being is thatyou're making thousands of
dollars anywhere from two and ahalf to 10, 25, 30, you know
like down the track, there'splenty of money to be made in
this experience.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
And, and so when you start to like, it's thanks to
myself.
I'm like oh, so it'd be normalto get $5,000 cakes and I would
just go once a week and do atalk for 60 minutes and that's
what I get to do, and then I getto be abundantly rewarded for
that and I don't have to worryabout anything else besides that
and everything else on top ofthat is this major amazingness,
and that it puts you in front ofthe ideal clients, right, and I
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get paid to be in front of them, versus the way we play this
here that we have to basicallyget in front of people.
Yeah, we're paying to be infront of people, right, and so
it's a very different.
Even though it sounds the same,it's actually a very different
switch in the mindset of it andthe choice of how this plays out
.
You know, and like where thealmost like, I guess, as far as
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business goes, like where thefunnel starts in a different way
, if that makes sense, and soit's just a different energy and
it's a different valuing andit's like what I was saying just
now is like it's like theplumber.
You know that we pay theplumber to go in and it takes
one second to knock the thing,the pipe that was like thank God
you've just fixed that wouldbut it was exploding everywhere
and thank God, you knew exactlythat five minutes and we have to
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pay you $1,000 for five minutes.
Well, it's not the five minutes,it's the thousand, it's the
years and years and years ofexperience that they've had
before.
And so this has been thejourney for me, as I've really
just been working through thatmental game, which is it's not
that thousands of dollars thatI'm sitting there, it's the
years and years and years andyears and years that I've
journeyed to be able to deliverthis to you in 60 minutes and
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rock your world.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, that you're.
Yeah, they're gonna have anexperience in 60 minutes.
It's gonna impact, change theirlife and be something they're
gonna want to tell other peopleabout going like oh my gosh, I
can't believe I got to seeCarrie Spee.
You should totally go see herwhen she's in your town.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Right, and it's a thing like, it's just like.
I think, no matter how it getsplayed out, in this experience
of being a messenger on theplanet, so much of the inner
game is allowing ourselves to beseen and to be valued as who we
are.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah Well, so I think you've answered my question
sort of like at the intellectualof you know what's in it,
what's in it for you, but thatwhat you just told me, there's
nothing that changed.
You know, that's always beenthe case with being a paid
public speaker, or I don't know,probably the last fifties, I
don't know, forever, as long asthere's been public paid
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speakers.
What changed in you or yourcircumstances where you're like,
ah, I will now finally allowmyself to go for this.
I will stop just making itsomething that like, oh, if only
then to something that I am.
I am doing this.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
That's a really good question.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Do you finally decide that you're, you'll allow
yourself to be happy, becauseyou must not have been happy,
because if you're like if Icould be a paid speaker, then
you'd be happy and you hadn'tbeen a paid speaker, so you must
not have been happy.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
So are you gonna finally be happy now, is that,
or?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
just it.
I ask the deep questions.
By the way, anyone who'slistening, he does do this.
By the way, if you ever want towork with the deep questions,
why only do 30 minute sessionsof people can't, can't, yeah
can't handle the deep one.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I'm sore, I'm sore.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Okay, the answer to that.
It actually has a lot to dowith our process.
So just when I met inbookwriting, and so through the
bookwriting process and throughmy own experience and really
knowing myself in thebookwriting container and really
learning where I excel bestbecause it is a container that
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really sets me up to excel in abeautiful way I started to
really hone into like, what am Igood at?
What is my best at?
How does my brain function best?
And if I was to live at myultimate state, what does that
actually look like?
And what I've really started tocome down to is especially
because in human design I'm amanifestor like my job is to
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initiate, and so when I get infront of a group of people and
they are open and willing toreceive the initiation, the
experience that I have isorgasmic.
It's so frickin delicious to me.
I'm like, oh, my God, I get toinitiate people who want to be
initiated and my whole body islike he leans into yes.
So when I started thinkingabout speaking, I was like, oh
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wait, so people want to pay meto be initiated and I get to
lean into oh, that soundsamazing.
And when I really started toagain honor into.
Okay, what's my design?
How do I function best in humandesign?
It isn't in holding longcontainers.
It isn't in holding communitiesfor years, upon years, upon
years.
I don't have that energy as amanifestor, and so how do I
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financially support myself in anabundant way, knowing that
these are these things that Iwant to be doing and how is the
best way for me to do that formyself?
And knowing that I have kids totake care of?
And so when I walked into apodcast movement, I actually had
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spoken to someone recently,over that last week it's a
friend of mine.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
But before we get into that, I want to go with it.
There's a couple of terms thatyou brought up that I'm like.
I don't know if everybodylistening might actually know.
I'm like, what the fuck did shejust talk about?
Is this Aussie speak?
Is this like?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Ooh, that's my speech , don't you?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Well?
So I think, a quick.
What is human design?
If course, I'll give my crackout, and then maybe you add a
little bit of color.
Is I look at a lot of peopleknow astrology where it's like
OK, what's your astrologicalforecast if you're a Pisces?
What's the reading for today?
It can be similar to that, andthen it does is based off of
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when you were born, but it's alittle bit more specific, and
then it requires your place andyour time of birth so that it
can get like a whole lot ofinformation of like what was the
configuration of the universeand then kind of tell you some
information about your likelypredispositions of how you might
operate in the world.
And there's some of thesethings where it's like fuck, I
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don't want to be that way,because she mentioned that she's
a manifestor which has certainqualities, and I'm a projector
which has other qualities, andthe biggest quality, the famous
one, is that projectors aresupposed to wait for the
invitation, and I first heardthat, like eight years ago, I
was like, well, this is shitty.
I just sit around and wait forsomeone to tap me on the
shoulder and go you're goodenough, justin, I want you to do
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this thing, but it really endsup being a lot of more nuance
and a whole lot of it and itbasically just gives ideas of
like these are perfectlyacceptable ways to be a human on
Earth as well, like noteverybody has to be.
I love using Tony Robbinsbecause most people know who
Tony Robbins is and not everyonehas to do this.
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Like Tony Robbins, not everyonehas to go and fill up a stadium
and yell and make people walkthrough fire like he does.
There's other ways to coachpeople, guide people, market and
other stuff, and human designis one of, I would say, many
ways for people to get thebreadth of human possibility.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, anything else you want to add.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I would.
The only thing I would add isultimately an energetic
blueprint of how you aredesigned to show up in the world
and, as Justin said, mostpeople when they get introduced
to it.
If you guys go and look, youcan go and find out more about
it.
If you go tolikehumidesignamericacom, go and
check it out, you can get yourchart there's information there
and go and have a play.
But when you find out, mostpeople kind of a lot of people,
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not most, but a lot of peoplewill have a resistance to it
Because we've been conditionedto be certain ways in society,
like that we're all supposed tobe certain ways but we're not.
And when we actually lean intothe way that we are designed to
live, we actually functionbetter and live better.
Things get easier.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Things go easier, it's more joyful.
Yeah, it's like well, if I'mgoing to go in sales, I'm
supposed to learn how to coldcall.
And it's like not all salesrequires cold calling, and
especially if you're, like me, aprojector, cold calling is
probably one of the mostmiserable things.
That's not going to work outanyway.
Whereas I don't know, Iprobably care.
You could probably cold callpeople.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
I'd be really good at cold calling people yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
So then this is the I like it.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I'd be really good at it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Well, that's the other thing.
Is just because you're good atit doesn't mean you like it or
want to do it, and just becauseyou're bad at it doesn't mean
you shouldn't do it.
Just means maybe it'll bedifferent or you have to figure
it out or you have to have areal good reason why.
So the initiation, what does itmean?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
To initiate.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Initiate, because this is something like Coltie,
like you're going initiatingsomebody in Ooh, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Initiate.
So OK, so if we talk, I'll do abrief explanation into the
human design, which is the humandesign part of manifesting.
So we have these differentenergetic blueprints and
ultimately each one has theirway of showing up in the world.
So, as a manifestor, we aredesigned to, as Justin just said
, initiate.
I'll explain in a second.
Justin just said he's aprojector, which means that he's
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here to be a guide andultimately he's like a
lighthouse that stands and holdsthis beautiful light and we all
want to come towards himbecause his guidance is so
beautiful, and that is true.
And then there's the othersthat are like 70% of the
population, which are thegenerators and manifesting
generators, and they are theworkhorse, power people that
just go, go, go, go, go, go, goand do, do, do, do, do, do, do.
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And then you have thereflectors, who are the people
who reflect everything back.
So that's my very, very big,brief overview.
And so, as a manifestor in myjob, we are 8% of the population
energetically and we are theonly ones who are designed to.
What we just said was initiate,which means we start things.
So, basically, if you can lookat this whole concept as like
there's a big, huge boulder on ahill and I got to start it.
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So my job is to push thisboulder and get it started, and
then Justin's probably going toguide me and he's going go Harry
, push it this way.
You got it.
Keep pushing.
You're doing great.
It's very true, right?
You're doing awesome, Justin.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
And then I take a nap .
Speaker 3 (20:47):
And I go OK, I'm really tired, I've pushed it,
I've started it and I'm going tothrow it off to a generator or
a manifesting generator andthey're going to go frickin' run
and they're going to take itand they're going to build it
and they're going to have thesystems built out and they're
going to be generating.
They'll be all day like busybees doing their thing.
And so that's how, if we lookat this together, how it all
happens, and without all of usdoing our part, then we don't
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function as well in a humansociety.
Yeah, Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, and so the boulder in the case is like an
idea or a way of living orsomething like that, and you're
initiating, you're instructing,going like, hey, I've started
this way of thinking, this wayof being, this way of living and
you're getting the peoplelistening into that.
Is that kind of what you meanby you're initiating them into
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as a manifestor.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Our job is to inform, and, ultimately, a lot of the
leaders that you would have seenin the world are manifestors
because of our job to be thepeople in the front, leading the
path in informing people ofwhat's coming, what's happening,
how we move this way, how yougo that way.
And a lot of us are, I wouldsay, seers or visionaries, and
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so that's kind of the big rolethat we'll play in the world,
and a lot of us are here toawaken, and so we have these
roles energetically, which makessense that I would then choose
to be a speaker.
I'm here.
My energetic design is let mecome and awaken people and
initiate you into a new way ofbeing, into a new way of
thinking, into a new way ofexperiencing life, and so that's
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how that all kind of plates up.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah, yeah, and so you've.
You've been aware of this, andso now let's go to your at a
podcast conference.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
And I see, guy, I'm gonna make the story story, but
I see a friend of mine and he'sgone from this.
I'm gonna say free speaking.
Free speaking that we hope weput a cast and net out that
eventually, will you know, itdoes bring money back, that's
for sure, like otherwise youwouldn't do it at all.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I'm able to do, just like to hear themselves talk and
get the, get the praise.
And yeah, it's true, it's true.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
So he had gone from there to paid and I was asking
him, like what was the thing?
And he's telling, basically Ihit the pavement long enough and
hard enough and had gotten offaround people and I was like God
, that's a long road, and I wakein the next.
I walk in the next day,manifest style, and I had no
idea.
But there's a booth, as they doat all sorts of these expos and
things, and the guys called thespeaker lab and I walk up, I'm
(23:19):
like what are you guys, what doyou do?
And I was like, oh, my God, youhave everything that I've ever
wanted in a program really.
And it was just like my wholemanifest.
Yourself said yes, like oh, andso I think part of it was like I
knew, and I actually understoodthe container enough to know
that it was going to leave me,the same way that inspirational
book writer says.
So I was like, oh, I'm in acontainer that I just I get into
book writing.
(23:39):
And we knew, I knew I'massuming you knew the same thing
when you signed up with themthat you're going to end up at a
book at the end of it thatbecomes a bestselling book, like
that's the intention.
If I follow what you say, thisis what's going to happen.
Don't go, don't stray.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
This is not the time to get creative In the book, but
outside of the book, do exactlywhat you were told.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yeah, so then I walked into this place that I
was like I understood thecontainer, I understood how I
can work inside of the containerand understand, like, well,
you've done this with enoughthousands of however many people
that if I just plug in here itis finally I don't have to walk
this long path of like goingfree, speaking for years and
years and years to get to thatplace.
You're just going to tell me Ican have it in three months.
Yes, please.
(24:22):
And so part of it was just likeknowing who I, knowing finally,
like I'm allowed to be whoeverthe hell I want to be, and do it
in the way that feels, the waythat feels for me, and not care
what other people think.
And there is a piece of thatright like how dare you have it
be so easy which isn't easy, bythe way.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
So that was so, that was a part is like you had a
notion of how being a paidspeaker was supposed to go.
I don't know.
It sounds like very similar tolike almost being a stand up
comedians.
Like, yeah, you know you got todo your open mics, you know you
got to do you know, yeah, allthat, all that stuff where it's,
(25:01):
you know, it's just like wellthat you know.
And especially if you've paidyour dues like 2345 times in
other industries, just like Idon't want to fucking do another
10 year and start from thebottom and yeah, so I get it.
I think there's a lot of things.
That, which is why I did likegoing through inspirational book
(25:22):
writers is like I want to writea book but I don't want to
spend four years and I don'twant to be yeah, and I don't
want to be agonizing over what,what font, and you know, do I
want double space or one, oneand a quarter, like I.
Actually I went through all thatdoing my dissertation for my
PhD in electrical engineering,like that.
I was actually a big, big partof it is all the typesetting.
(25:43):
So it's not that I hadn't donethat shit, I had done that and I
knew what a pain in the ass itis for ultimately little joy and
value to me.
So when someone's like hey, Igot the shit that's good enough
to get you best sellers like,okay, and I see the value, and
I'm guessing you saw that valueas well, and so that, yeah, so
(26:04):
the right guide was a big partof it.
It sounds like.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yes, yes, I think part of.
I think that's part of likewhenever you have leaps.
Really it's like that, that insome way there's a knowing
inside that this is an alignedthing for you and for me it's
usually, you know, what they sayis luck, right, but it's not.
It's like preparation and itwas like.
It was all there for me, right,like I could.
I wouldn't gotten into theprogram, I wouldn't have been
(26:33):
ready to even look at that if Iwasn't in the place that I knew
in myself.
I'm ready for this.
This is what.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I want.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Right.
And then, when all of a sudden,it was like here I'm going to
now show you and I think this issomething that a lot of people
actually will have a lot ofresistance in in these moments
is I'm going to show you how todo this really easy.
And it's not easy, right,because it's not like there's
going to be work in front of meand a lot of yeah not in front
of me, right, but I'm going toshow you how to do this in a way
that you don't actually have to, like, question it or think up
(27:02):
too hard about it.
Right, like through bookwriting, right, I just have to
say, okay, the first part is sitdown and write the book.
Okay, the next part is yep, allthat shit's going to come up,
but they know the stuff that'sgoing to come up.
They know.
They know the part that it'slike a conveyor belt is what
they'll say, right, and so aslong as I just get on the
conveyor belt, as long as I keepmoving down the conveyor belt,
it'll work.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Right, that's like you still have to do all of the
all of the work and the effortto go through the process, but
you don't have to come up, youdon't have to figure out the
process.
That's.
There's no, none of this.
Okay, well, let me try thisthing that didn't work.
Well, let me try this thingthat didn't work.
That part's been taken away,and I don't know why, but we
think that that's somehowvirtuous.
(27:42):
I think it just.
This goes to, you know, the hardwork being a virtue of like
what you're supposed to justright grind it out, grind it out
and it's like why this is who.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Right, and this is that piece like.
You can make a decision inthese moments, and I think a lot
of people will make the choice,first of all, to let that be a
stopping point, because there'san investment in it.
It's not wasn't out of like.
Oh, by the way, here you canhave everything on the silver
platter, but you're not going toactually have to pay for this
or think that you're going toinvest your time, money and
energy, right, and so this isthe place where you have to.
(28:14):
So, of course, that also meansthat we have to look at our time
and our energy and it's like doI have time to put this?
Do I have the energy to put tothis?
And I already had a busy launchschedule and all sorts of other
things coming up in my life andI was like do I actually have
time for this?
And a lot of people would havesaid no, a lot of people at that
moment right, they'll go oh, mygod, this couldn't possibly be
this easy.
I don't have the money, I don'thave the time, I'm not doing
(28:36):
this and I've probably done itbefore.
Let's be real, but I've neverseen anything quite like this.
I hadn't otherwise, I might nothave and I think that those
moments because there was, and Ilooked at them and I told them
and I will be honest, like inthe sales conversation I go your
biggest piece that you have to,the biggest hurdle for us to
overcome right now is the beliefthat I am the person that can,
(28:57):
or I can, be the person who doesthis.
It wasn't money, it wasn't thatI hadn't done it in the past, it
was.
I have to have the belief thatyou also have to have the belief
in me that I am the person whocan show up and be this person
in this program that can createthis result Because it's been
done.
So if it's been done before,someone else can do this.
(29:17):
Now it's just a matter ofwhether I can do it.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yeah, yeah, because this was the other thing is as
many people that have done it.
There's probably many peoplewho have signed up and managed
to not do it, despite all thebest effort, the best coaching,
the winning formula.
My one of my coaching friendshad a session with her last week
and she basically is poking atme.
I was like Justin, you know Ican put the perfect coaching
(29:44):
business plan in front of youand you would probably still
like not do it.
Like what the what the fuck isgoing on with you, like what's
the block?
And I'm just like, oh my gosh,I think I'm still using a lot of
my, my, my dad's, my dad'sbusiness tactics in my own life
and it's so.
I had to do some inner work andthat's what I did this past
weekend was like, really, lookat all the things of what does
(30:06):
it mean to be in business?
And yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's like, because itreally is like, yeah, am I, am I
ready to be that person?
And I'm wondering how much foryou of that person is just being
like happy, doing what theylove, and if you've finally got
to a place where it's like, yeah, I fucking, I'm that woman, I'm
(30:28):
doing that it's totally it'stotally come up in bookwriting
conversations.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
I don't know if it's maybe it's been, since you
haven't been in our weekly callslately, but I've said it a few
times in that I almost I've hadto overcome almost guilt and
shame that I get to come and dothings in my life that literally
I feel orgasmic.
Doing like this is my work and Iget paid to do this really like
it gets, like it really, really, really, and like all these
(30:58):
other people are like working sohard and like drained and I'm
like but the stuff that actuallyis my work is the stuff that
makes me feel so dang good andlike.
That's why I also knew likewriting books I literally feel
orgasmic most of the time.
Even through the pain ofwriting the book that we wrote
together, there was orgasmicfeelings for me the whole week
(31:19):
and it feels so good for me todo the work that I do that it's
almost like well, that must bewhat I'm supposed to be doing.
And I think a lot of peoplewill resist that because it's
like how dare we actually feelgood?
How dare it actually turn me onto do what I freaking love
doing and then I could actuallyget paid abundantly for it, and
(31:41):
then I don't have to like sellmy time right again, like yes,
it's still time, it's 60 minutes, but like I think of it, I'm
like that's not a lot.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
You've done it for free, so right.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
I'm like oh, you want to pay me what most people
might make in a month for 60?
Okay, let's do that then.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah, what?
I wonder if, like, a lot ofthis goes back to how a lot of
our education system is is setup.
Because you know, as I wasmentioning the crit, the
critiques, you know from mythird grade teacher, you know
it's like there's a lot ofthings listed that are good and
then all the the weaknesses arethe areas of improvement, and
what do we put all of our effortinto?
(32:21):
It's the areas of improvementsthat have going like, oh wait,
I'm good at all these things,let's do more stuff of that, and
then let's just figure out howto get around that.
I Was literally weaknesses.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
I was literally talking to Sam, my 11 year old,
yesterday, two days ago, and wewere talking about how, because
I was telling them about howI've made this decision.
And I said to him I was like Ijust want you to know, because
he has some talking stuff atschool, and I said I just want
you to know that every.
Talking like you know, gettingtrouble for talking, you get in
trouble talking too much.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Did you get that?
Is that a drug, or these thingswords?
Or Does he talk like an Aussieand they're just like so yeah,
so anyway.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
So I was talking about it and I said when I was
in elementary school, everysingle year I was, like I can
remember, sitting away from theclass next to the teacher across
the room Some way, because Iwas too busy talking to my
friends.
I also was in special writingprograms because my grammar, my
writing, sucked so bad and tothis day my mom would still tell
(33:38):
you she cringes at reading mywriting and I laugh and I say
exactly what you just said,justin, because my two biggest
problems in school I Am nowChoosing to be paid for.
It's like we can take thesejudgments from people and say
yeah, or like that was my gift,right, it's always been, but
(34:02):
then we smash it down and say wecan't possibly have that thing
that is so easy and so naturalfor you Be your gift that you
could go make money for it right.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
That's wild.
Well, I'm glad you've taken theleap and so I'd highly
recommend anybody that Wouldlike to hear, hear Carrie now,
like you know, use the podcastand you know, see, see her, see
her writings, get the books,because otherwise it's probably
gonna start costing you a prettypenny Few months.
(34:35):
So you can might as well try toget in as soon as you can so
you can tell people like oh yeah, I saw, I saw Carrie talk to
her.
I went people 30, 30 people ata double tree at a podcast
conference and Schenectady,schenectady somewhere, yeah.
(34:57):
And then people like, oh mygosh, really, I mean I tried to
get in to see your speak at TonyRobbins, unleash the power
within, but I don't like TonyRobbins, it's just on marketing.
I can't believe she'saffiliated with that because she
sold out.
So I wish you good luck andyou're selling out.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I Don't think you'll find me on a Tony Robbins stage.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I mean, he's, he's so , he's so big, where would you
fit he's?
He's a massive, he's a massiveman, but he's in shape, I don't
know.
I guess I.
I mean, I've been the guy, theguy has some magic, so I don't
fault anyone who gets, gets intoTony Robbins.
And I was done Tony Robbins,it's like it's, it's great, just
yeah, I'm just be expected tobe really fucking tired by the
(35:46):
end.
He's just no longer for me, andthat's that's.
The other thing is we all haveseasons of you know who's who's,
who's gonna help us now andthen who's not.
So yeah.
Yeah, anything else we want to.
I feel like this we've we'vedone good on this topic.
I feel like we did good.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
I don't know.
Do you want to put some?
You're really good at this.
You haven't put really manyyour insights.
I feel like you have somereally beautiful insights around
starting new things well.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
So so there's there's starting something and then
there's actually getting intosomething and sustaining it, and
I think those are two verydifferent, two different things,
because I sometimes love tostart something.
I probably have a lot of likeoffers and things where I've
started like I think I was gonnahelp people start podcasts.
I think I have, you know, like10 pages of you know equipment
(36:38):
to buy and how to pick your hose, but I never I never just get
into an actual Thank you things.
Things came up that were moreimportant and that's and that
can be okay, and so I think oneis yeah, if you're like there is
something that is superimportant, find a way to get on
the hook.
So, like you know, carrie, Ithink you signing up with this,
(37:01):
this program, where they're good, they're gonna drag you through
the process, just like you knowus with the book writing thing,
it's like they drag you throughthe process.
Let's.
They're like, yeah, you're justgonna be a time where you're
like I don't want to do this andthen we're just gonna come in
like poke at you and make you doit.
So I'd say that is an importantthing about like really
starting something with theintention to become the person
(37:23):
who actually does the thing.
Don't do it alone, like put somemoney on it One way or the
other.
And that's why I you know a lotof people listening my click.
This is this is like that's not, that's not cool.
But it's very common in thecoaching space and actually in a
lot of business, to sell aproduct that does not exist yet,
offering like, like I'm gonnateach you over an eight-week
(37:47):
period how to become you knowthe Superman workout, whatever,
and then once it sold, then okay, I guess I better fucking come
up with the material.
But a lot of software productsare like that.
A lot of video games now aremore and more like that, where
it's like you buy it and youbasically Bought the beta.
(38:07):
They're still finishing theproducts, but because they Sold
it to a bunch of people, nowthey're, they're gonna finish it
.
So as long as you know you'lleventually deliver the goods,
there's there's nothing wrongwith that.
In fact, that can be a good wayto ensure you actually do
finish the goods, because ifit's well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
create the thing and then, whenI've created the thing, then I'm
(38:28):
gonna figure out who to sell itto, there's a good chance that
might never happen.
So I think it's yeah you couldput you on the hook by paying
them or have someone pay you andthen you owe them.
So I think that is a reallygood way to truly make the.
The leap is yeah, I don't.
I don't think many leapsactually happen by by themselves
(38:49):
.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
There's the appearance of luck, but I I
think it's just because usuallywe're just so, our view is so
narrowed like that.
That.
What was it?
Speaker lab, what are theycalled?
Mm-hmm, they've probably beenat like 14 other conferences
You've been to, just you nevernoticed Guys.
Probably like I've seen youwalk by these things like what,
(39:13):
finally, what do you mean, youso?
Speaker 3 (39:18):
It's so, it's so true what you just said, though I
mean like literally, when I sentJustin a message, I told him
about this, and his response washow can?
I think?
It's probably something Likehow can I support you?
And my response is basicallylike hold me accountable to this
.
And hence we're here on apodcast, because it's gonna mean
that If I show up on thispodcast as I say this, you
better for keeping movingforward, carry.
And I've told my closest friendsand it's true, because I could
(39:38):
even go into this program and Ispecifically told some of my
closest friends because I waslike you guys, I know I want to
car on myself on this.
Like I Can feel it.
I can feel how easy would befor me to sit here and sign up
for that and not do anything,and so that's why I specifically
told some of my closest friends, because I was like I know you
guys won't let me fall down onthis, because everybody who I've
told this to has been like fuckyeah, that's exactly what you
(39:59):
should be doing, carry.
And and then I get this fullcircle of support.
That's like keep going, keepgoing, keep going.
And I know that when thosemoments when I am Scared that I
would all my other weird frickin, imposter stuff or whatever
comes up.
It'll be just a message.
I'll go, hey, justin, or hey,so-and-so, and you guys will
make me like, okay, go carry.
But it's part of that, isactually a part of, I think,
(40:20):
exactly what you've said, evenin that, and what I've just said
is being willing to even say Iwant the support to keep going
because it means enough for me.
It means enough to me to say tosomebody can you please help me
make sure that I keep doingthis and hold me accountable to
myself.
I don't need to do this for me,but I need you to help me stay
accountable to myself.
And because we can, we cantotally Cark out on stuff and
(40:42):
when it's important enough, it'sreally important that we have
the support around us to get itdone.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah, and then I don't know.
Just, I'm thinking of you knowthe the whole book launching
Process, which it doesn't stop.
The book is always there andpeople could always go like, oh,
how's the book doing?
And it's it's one of those likeI have like what I would like
in my mind, and then there'slike how it is, but then there's
something about that questionthat is like supportive of like
(41:07):
they want, they want it to bedoing well, and then it's like,
well, okay, how could I, howcould I make it, how could I do
something to support the book orwhatever it makes me think like
, well, I guess I could postabout it or I don't know tell, I
could tell the next person Imeet that I have the fucking
book.
And so it's just like thoselittle things, even if it's like
, okay, I'm maybe not doing asbig as I want to yet, I mean,
(41:31):
even if I'm just doing 10%,that's way better than the zero.
The zero that it would havebeen if didn't put it out there,
didn't have the sport and thendidn't have the people kind of
coming back later and going like, yeah, what's going on with
that.
It's like, oh yeah, okay, Iguess I, that's right, I do want
to do something.
And then you take at least oneor two steps and yeah, all this
stuff, even if it doesn't happenas quickly, whereas, big Lee,
(41:55):
it's happening.
Yeah and when you're enjoying it, when it's something that makes
you feel orgasmic.
Carrie's fifth Pleasure of life.
(42:15):
From down under, I'm alsoavailable for, you know,
spitball and ideas and coming upwith titles and things like
that.
So you know, this just have tobe my creative service.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Gotta go to the depths your osgasm.
A pleasure, just come on out tomy dick.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
That's how they say.
I'm not doing the New Zealandaccent because there's a whole
YouTube video when this guy, akiwi talking about his deck, but
he says it in a way.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Then you go to six and get some fortune chops.
I'm gonna have six of them.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
All right.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Let's, let's wrap up.
Yeah, read your thing again,but I lost.
Oh wait, I just want to tellpeople to you know, find you on
Facebook, carry norly Kerri in,or le y1.
That's on Facebook and thenit's without the one at
Instagram.
So definitely follow it.
You know, for podcasts andbooks and crypto and Not not too
(43:49):
distant future, there's gonnabe public speaking opportunities
.
So if you go to places wherepeople speak in public, carrie
will be there and bringchocolate, because she loves
(44:11):
chocolate and dancing.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
So and Ask for a hug, because I ask ask, ask for it
first.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah ask may I have?
I want a hug, can I have one?
And she might say yes or shemight say no, but if you don't
ask, you'll never know.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
I think that's really pretty much sums it up, doesn't
it?
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Yeah, just like.
Just like my Norwegian managertold me was working in Germany.
He said it is nice boys, don'task, nice boys, don't get.
Yeah, deep thoughts.
I don't know why it was sogendered, but probably Probably
when he was a little boy inNorway, but I don't know.
This big beautiful eyes and hissparkly skin and big eyelashes
(45:01):
she sees guys, just look likeyour stereotypical Norwegian
Godlike person.
Where am I supposed to be doingnerd engineering with this guy?
And I'm just lost in his eyes.
I mean, yeah, so maybe that'llbe in a future book of mine.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Yeah, just speaking of new things, justin does have
a new book coming.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah, well, and I also know.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Sometimes yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
I also know not to not to talk about it until yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Just like I have five million more coming by the way,
when you start to get into thisworld for anyone who's
listening.
And then we can wrap this by theway, because if you look at me
and you say there's four andJustin, whenever he decides to
put out another one or he doesanother thing or wherever he's
going with all this, once youstart you kind of can't like.
It's kind of delicious anddivine and wonderful and like
once you do one, you kind ofwant to keep going and I don't
(46:06):
know anyone, I don't, they'rejust amazing.
So like if you, if you arelistening to this and you are
called into the messenger world,whether you choose to walk all
the way into the path that Ihave, all the way straight into
Getting paid to speak, orwhether it is the start of going
into being an author, goinginto doing any this podcasting,
(46:27):
it's an amazingly and I say thisbecause as much as I started
the beginning of the saying likeit's a long road and it isn't.
I'm not kidding and I can sayjust I'm sure Justin would agree
it's not like financially, themost like immediate experience
of money for a lot of people tostart this path, but it is one
of the most rewarding I have Iever oh, yeah, and so I would
(46:50):
say don't quit your day job.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
I know I haven't, you know.
Oh, and also one I'll add.
A word of caution is onceyou've decided that you want to
do something completely,completely new, you really want
to leap into somethingcompletely different than your
everyday norm.
We were talking about tellingme, but the caveat is tell
(47:14):
people that are gonna besupportive yes, probably.
Don't tell your family, don'ttell your close friends, because
they're gonna be like, well,what if?
What if there's this littlevoice in their head, this come
up.
Well, shit, what if they aresix?
They're not gonna want to hangout with me, and then they'll
feel lonely and they'll feel sad, and they don't want to feel
sad.
So they'll be angry and they'llbe like, well, that's a stupid
(47:37):
idea.
Do you know how much workthat's gonna be?
No one's gonna listen to you.
So Find people that are doingwhat it is you want to do
already, have done that, and aregonna go like that's awesome,
like, yeah, how can I help youwith that?
Um, because, yeah, I'm anauthor, but I'm also a toast
master.
I did lots of toast masters,which is lots of public speaking
, so I know the road of publicspeaking.
(47:58):
I just haven't been paid yetfor it, but I'm always a big
supporter of people publicspeaking.
So someone's like I'm thinkingof public speaking.
I'm like, yeah, do it, do itAnywhere, whatever, find a way.
Yeah be careful of who.
You say that I'm gonna go dothis Because, yeah, your average
person is gonna take a big shiton you.
(48:18):
And it's not because they hateyou even though they might say I
hate you, you'll never be goodat this.
It's because they love you somuch.
They don't want to lose you intheir life and they they might.
Yeah, so, yeah.
So when you have the friendsthat you can, that's that's when
things are going really well,is when you have the friends
(48:39):
that you can always say likethis is what.
I'm doing.
They're just like yes thatsounds great.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
I have friends like that now, yeah unless, of course
you do, you're making a reallybad decision and then you want
the same friends to say that's areally bad decision.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Yeah, that's, that's true, yeah, yeah.
If it's like, yeah, someone'sgonna help me get into public
speaking, they're only charginga million dollars, I'm about to
sign over my house and like likethat, no, don't know no, no no,
no, no, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I'mgonna do something.
I I run it by a friend or twoand go like oh, you don't need
(49:15):
that shit, why don't you don'tneed that shit.
Like You're just wasting yourtime at this point, like you
just go do, go do things.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
There is a line, there is a fine line.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
So yeah, with that, let's wrapup the show.
So thank you.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
Thanks, justin.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Good, I might good.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
I and.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
You can find me, justin wink PhD, on all the
socials and you can emailpodcast at Justin wink calm and
I think I already said you'lljust look at the show notes for
Carrie.
And thanks so much, carrie, forbeing on the show.
It's been a delight to.
We've been talking abouttalking on the podcast for a
long time and we it happened.
So thank you for taking theleap which forced another leap
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of you being on the show.
Thank you so much and, withthat, good day.
Welcome to the show.
I'm Justin Wink.
Today, we are going to betalking about taking the leap
into something new, and I'mtaking the leap by not doing
this podcast all on my own.
I have a fantastic guest and,just to make her feel welcome, I
want to do this intro in a very, very special way.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
So Carrie Lynn Norley is the wealth alchemist.
She is an international wealthand soul alignment activator,
mentor, speaker, podcaster andauthor.
She's the author of Not One,Not Two, Crocky.
She's author of four books,Blimey, including the
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International Bestseller theWealth, the New Wealth,
Magnetize Abundance.
And that's magnetized with an S, because we're not talking
about the way us, the yanks, thefucking yanks, would spell it,
which would be with like a Z.
It's with a Z, Sorry.
Do they say Z in Aussie land ordo they say they say Z?
(01:07):
They say Z.
They say Z, they say Z, they sayZ, they say yeah so it's not
with the Z, it's magnetizedabundance Hold your wealth and
leave a legacy.
She also has an internationaltop shot podcast, the Wealth
Alchemist, and this is launchingpodcast number two.
It's not a shitty one.
It's her second podcast andit's going to be called Unmasked
(01:29):
, so look for that where yourgreater podcasts are sold.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
All right, I'm going to just stay.
The rest Am I American?
Permission and passion is tohelp shift the wealth
consciousness of the planet.
In BD, no big deal.
She speaks to healing,generational conditioning and
how that plays out inrelationships, health and
personal finances.
She is an American, aussie,living in Colorado, and loves
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dancing and good qualitychocolate.
So when she's on and you hearsome weird terms of things, I'll
make sure that we translate.
For my non Aussie speakinglisteners out there, of which I
know there are many.
The best place to connect withCarrie is on her Facebook.
At facebookcom, carrie Norleywon.
(02:20):
So Carrie Norley without thenumber one, that is a fake.
You don't want that.
But on Insta, you do want.
At Carrie Norley, it's allgoing to go on the show notes
Make it Rosie, she's.
She's also.
You've heard of crypto bros.
She's a.
Is it a crypto bra?
I think she's got a crypto brashe.
(02:41):
So she has training on crypto.
She really knows her shit.
Carrie Norleycom slash cryptointro.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Did.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I might carry no way Shrimp on the barbie I was
trying to like look out veryAussie sayings but it most start
to just reference like weirdplaces to shop and eat and
things like that.
I know Tim Hortons for theCanadians and I'm I don't need
to know anymore.
You know McDonald's iseverywhere, so I don't need to
(03:16):
know more.
Fast food Welcome to the show.
So we're talking about?
We're talking about jumpinginto, leaping into something new
, and we're not talking about,like I don't know, leaping into
something you don't want, butsomething you want, but
something that might be a littlescary, it's a little edgy, it's
(03:38):
a little bit like, oh my gosh,can I do this, should I do this?
What will people think about me?
So this is actually kind of agood follow up to the podcast I
that went out the previous week,which was about getting over
over judgments and becausepeople are just going to be
judging us, no matter what.
From the day we're born we'regetting judged.
Because I was reading somethingfrom my third grade teacher
(03:59):
that was all about my strengthsand my weaknesses and just funny
to think of, like an eight yearold.
And you know, here's whatJustin's good at, here's what
Justin's not good at.
Justin's breadth of literatureis not up to par A fucking eight
year old.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
The shit that people said hey, yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
So you're, I mean so you've, you're clearly
experienced at leaping, leapinginto things I mean from from
your bio, with books, podcasts.
What's this latest thing thatyou told me about?
And I was like let's do apodcast.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah, it's funny because I this is the first time
I'm speaking and knowing it'sgoing to be public soon.
So the decision I made last itwas last week is to move into
paid professional speaking,which isn't like, when I think
about it and we say everythingthat's just happened of, like
everything you just described,out of my world doesn't seem
(04:57):
like a big leap, but in my worldfeels like a ginormous leap.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, and what?
And for you, what is the flavorof?
Like what you know?
Cause it is, it's one of those.
You hear the biography andyou're like, well, of course
people don't want to pay thisperson to come speak.
Like, look at all the thingsthat they've done.
Yeah, when you're on the otherside, when you're you and your
and your brain and all thefeelings come up, is it just
like, oh wait, and then how didyou actually, you know, move
(05:28):
into this, owning it and goinglike this is this is fucking
happening.
I'm doing this.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
That's a really good question.
I think it starts with a littlebit prior.
Is that I think?
For years?
Not, I think I know, for yearsI've been saying if I could get
paid to speak and write, I'd bea really happy woman.
And I say it over and overagain if I could get paid to
speak and write, I'd be a reallyhappy woman.
And there's a lot of people who, when you look at me from the
position, from the outside, fromeverything that you've just
(05:56):
heard, I have a podcast, I havean author, I'm an author of
multiple books, I have beenspeaking for years, I have been
on big stages and the differencebeing that when you're in that,
like a lot of people think thatthere's like a lot of I'm going
to say glory in this.
Or there's a lot of financialabundance and you and I both
know, having run podcasts foryears, that like, yes, this is
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an amazing medium, but it takestime to build an audience.
It takes time for things tocome out of fruition monetarily.
From a podcast.
You can go on stages I spoke ona stage, you know, in an
international speaking.
I've been on multipleinternational stages it does not
mean that it equates to a penny, and a lot of people don't get
that.
When it comes to thisexperience and a lot of times we
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do it as speakers to be seen toget into more, into a bigger
growth of people that we get infront of.
We want to create as I'm goingto speak for myself, but the
speakers that I know, of course,we're here to create an impact
and create change and helpspread a message, right.
So I want to get out in frontof as many people as I humanly
possibly can, because I knowthat, as you said and you went,
not a big deal, changing theworld consciousness planet is no
(07:04):
small feat, right, and so wehave to talk to as many people
as humanly possible in order todo that, and so the other piece
of it is that a lot of peoplewill say that in order to
actually get to quote unquotepaid speaking gigs, first of all
, some people will never takethis road.
Some people in this path thatI've been in, that you look at
from the outside and that you'rein too right, justin, like it
(07:27):
doesn't equate to that people goout and get a paid speaking gig
.
It means that I can go and Ican give my services to people
and that maybe it grows thataudience and I get into my
beautiful community and into mysocial media and into my email
letters and all that stuff.
And if they choose to buy fromthere, they do.
If they don't, they don't.
That's their choice.
And it's a very differentexperience than saying I'm going
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to go and speak for 60 minutesand someone's going to pay me
thousands of dollars, and thatmy my little voice, and I say
this like because this is whathappens in my head.
Who me this little voice?
What are you talking about?
You want to pay me thousands ofdollars for 60 minutes?
Are you kidding?
Oh boy, like I've had to workso hard to get my voice heard
(08:10):
other places and I think thedifference being like sometimes
when we're in this, in thisposition and I'm you know you
you might have your own parts inthis too that sometimes we see
it feels like I'm speaking to awhole bunch of I don't know like
ghosts, right, when you know Isit on a computer like this and
we put a voice out into thepodcast world.
I don't necessarily get aresponse from everybody and
(08:30):
sometimes it's really lonely.
It can be really one way, right, and sometimes it's like is
there anyone out there listening?
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Right and this experience Go ahead.
Like I was on a zoom call witha bunch of other coaches
yesterday and one woman was.
Her complaint was like there'ssomeone stealing my material, I
put it out there and then she'simmediately she's creating
shirts out and I'm just thinkinglike I fucking wish someone
cared enough to steal some of mystuff.
(09:02):
Like one person's listening Alot of the time it is, but then
you, then every now, and thensomeone's like I just heard that
episode where you did thisexercise and, oh my gosh, it
made my day and that could besix months a year.
You never know.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
And it's true.
And like I run into people andthey're like I've been listening
to your show for a year.
I wait every week and I'm likehow come I didn't?
I want an hour, tell me, tellme, I want to hear from you.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
They're just quietly killing it.
They're getting the good stuff,incorporating it and going on
and living an even better life.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Right.
And so when you go into this,into this, I think for me going
into this world is like sayingthat I don't.
I'm making the choice of that,the choice that my literal 60
minutes makes thousands ofdollars versus like waiting and
hoping and like in that wholeexperience, like, oh my God,
someone really wants that and isthat?
It's that valuable.
(09:54):
Oh that's the piece for me toown into which is like, wow, and
it's not about the time, likewe know this right.
It's not about the time, like,honestly, I've been doing this
for so many years that I've putin the time right, and I always
say this is kind of like the thetime?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Time in what way do you mean, like the, the literal
60 minutes?
Or do you mean the prep time?
Or yes, it's not exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Right.
So like I'm sitting here sayingto you, like it's a paid
professional speaker, what thewhat?
The intention being is thatyou're making thousands of
dollars anywhere from two and ahalf to 10, 25, 30, you know
like down the track, there'splenty of money to be made in
this experience.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
And, and so when you start to like, it's thanks to
myself.
I'm like oh, so it'd be normalto get $5,000 cakes and I would
just go once a week and do atalk for 60 minutes and that's
what I get to do, and then I getto be abundantly rewarded for
that and I don't have to worryabout anything else besides that
and everything else on top ofthat is this major amazingness,
and that it puts you in front ofthe ideal clients, right, and I
(10:51):
get paid to be in front of them, versus the way we play this
here that we have to basicallyget in front of people.
Yeah, we're paying to be infront of people, right, and so
it's a very different.
Even though it sounds the same,it's actually a very different
switch in the mindset of it andthe choice of how this plays out
.
You know, and like where thealmost like, I guess, as far as
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business goes, like where thefunnel starts in a different way
, if that makes sense, and soit's just a different energy and
it's a different valuing andit's like what I was saying just
now is like it's like theplumber.
You know that we pay theplumber to go in and it takes
one second to knock the thing,the pipe that was like thank God
you've just fixed that wouldbut it was exploding everywhere
and thank God, you knew exactlythat five minutes and we have to
(11:35):
pay you $1,000 for five minutes.
Well, it's not the five minutes,it's the thousand, it's the
years and years and years ofexperience that they've had
before.
And so this has been thejourney for me, as I've really
just been working through thatmental game, which is it's not
that thousands of dollars thatI'm sitting there, it's the
years and years and years andyears and years that I've
journeyed to be able to deliverthis to you in 60 minutes and
(11:57):
rock your world.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, that you're.
Yeah, they're gonna have anexperience in 60 minutes.
It's gonna impact, change theirlife and be something they're
gonna want to tell other peopleabout going like oh my gosh, I
can't believe I got to seeCarrie Spee.
You should totally go see herwhen she's in your town.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Right, and it's a thing like, it's just like.
I think, no matter how it getsplayed out, in this experience
of being a messenger on theplanet, so much of the inner
game is allowing ourselves to beseen and to be valued as who we
are.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah Well, so I think you've answered my question
sort of like at the intellectualof you know what's in it,
what's in it for you, but thatwhat you just told me, there's
nothing that changed.
You know, that's always beenthe case with being a paid
public speaker, or I don't know,probably the last fifties, I
don't know, forever, as long asthere's been public paid
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speakers.
What changed in you or yourcircumstances where you're like,
ah, I will now finally allowmyself to go for this.
I will stop just making itsomething that like, oh, if only
then to something that I am.
I am doing this.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
That's a really good question.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Do you finally decide that you're, you'll allow
yourself to be happy, becauseyou must not have been happy,
because if you're like if Icould be a paid speaker, then
you'd be happy and you hadn'tbeen a paid speaker, so you must
not have been happy.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
So are you gonna finally be happy now, is that,
or?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
just it.
I ask the deep questions.
By the way, anyone who'slistening, he does do this.
By the way, if you ever want towork with the deep questions,
why only do 30 minute sessionsof people can't, can't, yeah
can't handle the deep one.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I'm sore, I'm sore.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Okay, the answer to that.
It actually has a lot to dowith our process.
So just when I met inbookwriting, and so through the
bookwriting process and throughmy own experience and really
knowing myself in thebookwriting container and really
learning where I excel bestbecause it is a container that
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really sets me up to excel in abeautiful way I started to
really hone into like, what am Igood at?
What is my best at?
How does my brain function best?
And if I was to live at myultimate state, what does that
actually look like?
And what I've really started tocome down to is especially
because in human design I'm amanifestor like my job is to
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initiate, and so when I get infront of a group of people and
they are open and willing toreceive the initiation, the
experience that I have isorgasmic.
It's so frickin delicious to me.
I'm like, oh, my God, I get toinitiate people who want to be
initiated and my whole body islike he leans into yes.
So when I started thinkingabout speaking, I was like, oh
(14:57):
wait, so people want to pay meto be initiated and I get to
lean into oh, that soundsamazing.
And when I really started toagain honor into.
Okay, what's my design?
How do I function best in humandesign?
It isn't in holding longcontainers.
It isn't in holding communitiesfor years, upon years, upon
years.
I don't have that energy as amanifestor, and so how do I
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financially support myself in anabundant way, knowing that
these are these things that Iwant to be doing and how is the
best way for me to do that formyself?
And knowing that I have kids totake care of?
And so when I walked into apodcast movement, I actually had
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spoken to someone recently,over that last week it's a
friend of mine.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
But before we get into that, I want to go with it.
There's a couple of terms thatyou brought up that I'm like.
I don't know if everybodylistening might actually know.
I'm like, what the fuck did shejust talk about?
Is this Aussie speak?
Is this like?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Ooh, that's my speech , don't you?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Well?
So I think, a quick.
What is human design?
If course, I'll give my crackout, and then maybe you add a
little bit of color.
Is I look at a lot of peopleknow astrology where it's like
OK, what's your astrologicalforecast if you're a Pisces?
What's the reading for today?
It can be similar to that, andthen it does is based off of
(16:25):
when you were born, but it's alittle bit more specific, and
then it requires your place andyour time of birth so that it
can get like a whole lot ofinformation of like what was the
configuration of the universeand then kind of tell you some
information about your likelypredispositions of how you might
operate in the world.
And there's some of thesethings where it's like fuck, I
(16:48):
don't want to be that way,because she mentioned that she's
a manifestor which has certainqualities, and I'm a projector
which has other qualities, andthe biggest quality, the famous
one, is that projectors aresupposed to wait for the
invitation, and I first heardthat, like eight years ago, I
was like, well, this is shitty.
I just sit around and wait forsomeone to tap me on the
shoulder and go you're goodenough, justin, I want you to do
(17:09):
this thing, but it really endsup being a lot of more nuance
and a whole lot of it and itbasically just gives ideas of
like these are perfectlyacceptable ways to be a human on
Earth as well, like noteverybody has to be.
I love using Tony Robbinsbecause most people know who
Tony Robbins is and not everyonehas to do this.
(17:30):
Like Tony Robbins, not everyonehas to go and fill up a stadium
and yell and make people walkthrough fire like he does.
There's other ways to coachpeople, guide people, market and
other stuff, and human designis one of, I would say, many
ways for people to get thebreadth of human possibility.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, anything else you want to add.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I would.
The only thing I would add isultimately an energetic
blueprint of how you aredesigned to show up in the world
and, as Justin said, mostpeople when they get introduced
to it.
If you guys go and look, youcan go and find out more about
it.
If you go tolikehumidesignamericacom, go and
check it out, you can get yourchart there's information there
and go and have a play.
But when you find out, mostpeople kind of a lot of people,
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not most, but a lot of peoplewill have a resistance to it
Because we've been conditionedto be certain ways in society,
like that we're all supposed tobe certain ways but we're not.
And when we actually lean intothe way that we are designed to
live, we actually functionbetter and live better.
Things get easier.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Things go easier, it's more joyful.
Yeah, it's like well, if I'mgoing to go in sales, I'm
supposed to learn how to coldcall.
And it's like not all salesrequires cold calling, and
especially if you're, like me, aprojector, cold calling is
probably one of the mostmiserable things.
That's not going to work outanyway.
Whereas I don't know, Iprobably care.
You could probably cold callpeople.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
I'd be really good at cold calling people yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
So then this is the I like it.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I'd be really good at it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Well, that's the other thing.
Is just because you're good atit doesn't mean you like it or
want to do it, and just becauseyou're bad at it doesn't mean
you shouldn't do it.
Just means maybe it'll bedifferent or you have to figure
it out or you have to have areal good reason why.
So the initiation, what does itmean?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
To initiate.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Initiate, because this is something like Coltie,
like you're going initiatingsomebody in Ooh, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Initiate.
So OK, so if we talk, I'll do abrief explanation into the
human design, which is the humandesign part of manifesting.
So we have these differentenergetic blueprints and
ultimately each one has theirway of showing up in the world.
So, as a manifestor, we aredesigned to, as Justin just said
, initiate.
I'll explain in a second.
Justin just said he's aprojector, which means that he's
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here to be a guide andultimately he's like a
lighthouse that stands and holdsthis beautiful light and we all
want to come towards himbecause his guidance is so
beautiful, and that is true.
And then there's the othersthat are like 70% of the
population, which are thegenerators and manifesting
generators, and they are theworkhorse, power people that
just go, go, go, go, go, go, goand do, do, do, do, do, do, do.
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And then you have thereflectors, who are the people
who reflect everything back.
So that's my very, very big,brief overview.
And so, as a manifestor in myjob, we are 8% of the population
energetically and we are theonly ones who are designed to.
What we just said was initiate,which means we start things.
So, basically, if you can lookat this whole concept as like
there's a big, huge boulder on ahill and I got to start it.
(20:30):
So my job is to push thisboulder and get it started, and
then Justin's probably going toguide me and he's going go Harry
, push it this way.
You got it.
Keep pushing.
You're doing great.
It's very true, right?
You're doing awesome, Justin.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
And then I take a nap .
Speaker 3 (20:47):
And I go OK, I'm really tired, I've pushed it,
I've started it and I'm going tothrow it off to a generator or
a manifesting generator andthey're going to go frickin' run
and they're going to take itand they're going to build it
and they're going to have thesystems built out and they're
going to be generating.
They'll be all day like busybees doing their thing.
And so that's how, if we lookat this together, how it all
happens, and without all of usdoing our part, then we don't
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function as well in a humansociety.
Yeah, Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, and so the boulder in the case is like an
idea or a way of living orsomething like that, and you're
initiating, you're instructing,going like, hey, I've started
this way of thinking, this wayof being, this way of living and
you're getting the peoplelistening into that.
Is that kind of what you meanby you're initiating them into
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as a manifestor.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Our job is to inform, and, ultimately, a lot of the
leaders that you would have seenin the world are manifestors
because of our job to be thepeople in the front, leading the
path in informing people ofwhat's coming, what's happening,
how we move this way, how yougo that way.
And a lot of us are, I wouldsay, seers or visionaries, and
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so that's kind of the big rolethat we'll play in the world,
and a lot of us are here toawaken, and so we have these
roles energetically, which makessense that I would then choose
to be a speaker.
I'm here.
My energetic design is let mecome and awaken people and
initiate you into a new way ofbeing, into a new way of
thinking, into a new way ofexperiencing life, and so that's
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how that all kind of plates up.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah, yeah, and so you've.
You've been aware of this, andso now let's go to your at a
podcast conference.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
And I see, guy, I'm gonna make the story story, but
I see a friend of mine and he'sgone from this.
I'm gonna say free speaking.
Free speaking that we hope weput a cast and net out that
eventually, will you know, itdoes bring money back, that's
for sure, like otherwise youwouldn't do it at all.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I'm able to do, just like to hear themselves talk and
get the, get the praise.
And yeah, it's true, it's true.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
So he had gone from there to paid and I was asking
him, like what was the thing?
And he's telling, basically Ihit the pavement long enough and
hard enough and had gotten offaround people and I was like God
, that's a long road, and I wakein the next.
I walk in the next day,manifest style, and I had no
idea.
But there's a booth, as they doat all sorts of these expos and
things, and the guys called thespeaker lab and I walk up, I'm
(23:19):
like what are you guys, what doyou do?
And I was like, oh, my God, youhave everything that I've ever
wanted in a program really.
And it was just like my wholemanifest.
Yourself said yes, like oh, andso I think part of it was like I
knew, and I actually understoodthe container enough to know
that it was going to leave me,the same way that inspirational
book writer says.
So I was like, oh, I'm in acontainer that I just I get into
book writing.
(23:39):
And we knew, I knew I'massuming you knew the same thing
when you signed up with themthat you're going to end up at a
book at the end of it thatbecomes a bestselling book, like
that's the intention.
If I follow what you say, thisis what's going to happen.
Don't go, don't stray.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
This is not the time to get creative In the book, but
outside of the book, do exactlywhat you were told.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yeah, so then I walked into this place that I
was like I understood thecontainer, I understood how I
can work inside of the containerand understand, like, well,
you've done this with enoughthousands of however many people
that if I just plug in here itis finally I don't have to walk
this long path of like goingfree, speaking for years and
years and years to get to thatplace.
You're just going to tell me Ican have it in three months.
Yes, please.
(24:22):
And so part of it was just likeknowing who I, knowing finally,
like I'm allowed to be whoeverthe hell I want to be, and do it
in the way that feels, the waythat feels for me, and not care
what other people think.
And there is a piece of thatright like how dare you have it
be so easy which isn't easy, bythe way.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
So that was so, that was a part is like you had a
notion of how being a paidspeaker was supposed to go.
I don't know.
It sounds like very similar tolike almost being a stand up
comedians.
Like, yeah, you know you got todo your open mics, you know you
got to do you know, yeah, allthat, all that stuff where it's,
(25:01):
you know, it's just like wellthat you know.
And especially if you've paidyour dues like 2345 times in
other industries, just like Idon't want to fucking do another
10 year and start from thebottom and yeah, so I get it.
I think there's a lot of things.
That, which is why I did likegoing through inspirational book
(25:22):
writers is like I want to writea book but I don't want to
spend four years and I don'twant to be yeah, and I don't
want to be agonizing over what,what font, and you know, do I
want double space or one, oneand a quarter, like I.
Actually I went through all thatdoing my dissertation for my
PhD in electrical engineering,like that.
I was actually a big, big partof it is all the typesetting.
(25:43):
So it's not that I hadn't donethat shit, I had done that and I
knew what a pain in the ass itis for ultimately little joy and
value to me.
So when someone's like hey, Igot the shit that's good enough
to get you best sellers like,okay, and I see the value, and
I'm guessing you saw that valueas well, and so that, yeah, so
(26:04):
the right guide was a big partof it.
It sounds like.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yes, yes, I think part of.
I think that's part of likewhenever you have leaps.
Really it's like that, that insome way there's a knowing
inside that this is an alignedthing for you and for me it's
usually, you know, what they sayis luck, right, but it's not.
It's like preparation and itwas like.
It was all there for me, right,like I could.
I wouldn't gotten into theprogram, I wouldn't have been
(26:33):
ready to even look at that if Iwasn't in the place that I knew
in myself.
I'm ready for this.
This is what.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I want.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Right.
And then, when all of a sudden,it was like here I'm going to
now show you and I think this issomething that a lot of people
actually will have a lot ofresistance in in these moments
is I'm going to show you how todo this really easy.
And it's not easy, right,because it's not like there's
going to be work in front of meand a lot of yeah not in front
of me, right, but I'm going toshow you how to do this in a way
that you don't actually have to, like, question it or think up
(27:02):
too hard about it.
Right, like through bookwriting, right, I just have to
say, okay, the first part is sitdown and write the book.
Okay, the next part is yep, allthat shit's going to come up,
but they know the stuff that'sgoing to come up.
They know.
They know the part that it'slike a conveyor belt is what
they'll say, right, and so aslong as I just get on the
conveyor belt, as long as I keepmoving down the conveyor belt,
it'll work.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Right, that's like you still have to do all of the
all of the work and the effortto go through the process, but
you don't have to come up, youdon't have to figure out the
process.
That's.
There's no, none of this.
Okay, well, let me try thisthing that didn't work.
Well, let me try this thingthat didn't work.
That part's been taken away,and I don't know why, but we
think that that's somehowvirtuous.
(27:42):
I think it just.
This goes to, you know, the hardwork being a virtue of like
what you're supposed to justright grind it out, grind it out
and it's like why this is who.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Right, and this is that piece like.
You can make a decision inthese moments, and I think a lot
of people will make the choice,first of all, to let that be a
stopping point, because there'san investment in it.
It's not wasn't out of like.
Oh, by the way, here you canhave everything on the silver
platter, but you're not going toactually have to pay for this
or think that you're going toinvest your time, money and
energy, right, and so this isthe place where you have to.
(28:14):
So, of course, that also meansthat we have to look at our time
and our energy and it's like doI have time to put this?
Do I have the energy to put tothis?
And I already had a busy launchschedule and all sorts of other
things coming up in my life andI was like do I actually have
time for this?
And a lot of people would havesaid no, a lot of people at that
moment right, they'll go oh, mygod, this couldn't possibly be
this easy.
I don't have the money, I don'thave the time, I'm not doing
(28:36):
this and I've probably done itbefore.
Let's be real, but I've neverseen anything quite like this.
I hadn't otherwise, I might nothave and I think that those
moments because there was, and Ilooked at them and I told them
and I will be honest, like inthe sales conversation I go your
biggest piece that you have to,the biggest hurdle for us to
overcome right now is the beliefthat I am the person that can,
(28:57):
or I can, be the person who doesthis.
It wasn't money, it wasn't thatI hadn't done it in the past, it
was.
I have to have the belief thatyou also have to have the belief
in me that I am the person whocan show up and be this person
in this program that can createthis result Because it's been
done.
So if it's been done before,someone else can do this.
(29:17):
Now it's just a matter ofwhether I can do it.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yeah, yeah, because this was the other thing is as
many people that have done it.
There's probably many peoplewho have signed up and managed
to not do it, despite all thebest effort, the best coaching,
the winning formula.
My one of my coaching friendshad a session with her last week
and she basically is poking atme.
I was like Justin, you know Ican put the perfect coaching
(29:44):
business plan in front of youand you would probably still
like not do it.
Like what the what the fuck isgoing on with you, like what's
the block?
And I'm just like, oh my gosh,I think I'm still using a lot of
my, my, my dad's, my dad'sbusiness tactics in my own life
and it's so.
I had to do some inner work andthat's what I did this past
weekend was like, really, lookat all the things of what does
(30:06):
it mean to be in business?
And yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's like, because itreally is like, yeah, am I, am I
ready to be that person?
And I'm wondering how much foryou of that person is just being
like happy, doing what theylove, and if you've finally got
to a place where it's like, yeah, I fucking, I'm that woman, I'm
(30:28):
doing that it's totally it'stotally come up in bookwriting
conversations.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
I don't know if it's maybe it's been, since you
haven't been in our weekly callslately, but I've said it a few
times in that I almost I've hadto overcome almost guilt and
shame that I get to come and dothings in my life that literally
I feel orgasmic.
Doing like this is my work and Iget paid to do this really like
it gets, like it really, really, really, and like all these
(30:58):
other people are like working sohard and like drained and I'm
like but the stuff that actuallyis my work is the stuff that
makes me feel so dang good andlike.
That's why I also knew likewriting books I literally feel
orgasmic most of the time.
Even through the pain ofwriting the book that we wrote
together, there was orgasmicfeelings for me the whole week
(31:19):
and it feels so good for me todo the work that I do that it's
almost like well, that must bewhat I'm supposed to be doing.
And I think a lot of peoplewill resist that because it's
like how dare we actually feelgood?
How dare it actually turn me onto do what I freaking love
doing and then I could actuallyget paid abundantly for it, and
(31:41):
then I don't have to like sellmy time right again, like yes,
it's still time, it's 60 minutes, but like I think of it, I'm
like that's not a lot.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
You've done it for free, so right.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
I'm like oh, you want to pay me what most people
might make in a month for 60?
Okay, let's do that then.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah, what?
I wonder if, like, a lot ofthis goes back to how a lot of
our education system is is setup.
Because you know, as I wasmentioning the crit, the
critiques, you know from mythird grade teacher, you know
it's like there's a lot ofthings listed that are good and
then all the the weaknesses arethe areas of improvement, and
what do we put all of our effortinto?
(32:21):
It's the areas of improvementsthat have going like, oh wait,
I'm good at all these things,let's do more stuff of that, and
then let's just figure out howto get around that.
I Was literally weaknesses.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
I was literally talking to Sam, my 11 year old,
yesterday, two days ago, and wewere talking about how, because
I was telling them about howI've made this decision.
And I said to him I was like Ijust want you to know, because
he has some talking stuff atschool, and I said I just want
you to know that every.
Talking like you know, gettingtrouble for talking, you get in
trouble talking too much.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Did you get that?
Is that a drug, or these thingswords?
Or Does he talk like an Aussieand they're just like so yeah,
so anyway.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
So I was talking about it and I said when I was
in elementary school, everysingle year I was, like I can
remember, sitting away from theclass next to the teacher across
the room Some way, because Iwas too busy talking to my
friends.
I also was in special writingprograms because my grammar, my
writing, sucked so bad and tothis day my mom would still tell
(33:38):
you she cringes at reading mywriting and I laugh and I say
exactly what you just said,justin, because my two biggest
problems in school I Am nowChoosing to be paid for.
It's like we can take thesejudgments from people and say
yeah, or like that was my gift,right, it's always been, but
(34:02):
then we smash it down and say wecan't possibly have that thing
that is so easy and so naturalfor you Be your gift that you
could go make money for it right.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
That's wild.
Well, I'm glad you've taken theleap and so I'd highly
recommend anybody that Wouldlike to hear, hear Carrie now,
like you know, use the podcastand you know, see, see her, see
her writings, get the books,because otherwise it's probably
gonna start costing you a prettypenny Few months.
(34:35):
So you can might as well try toget in as soon as you can so
you can tell people like oh yeah, I saw, I saw Carrie talk to
her.
I went people 30, 30 people ata double tree at a podcast
conference and Schenectady,schenectady somewhere, yeah.
(34:57):
And then people like, oh mygosh, really, I mean I tried to
get in to see your speak at TonyRobbins, unleash the power
within, but I don't like TonyRobbins, it's just on marketing.
I can't believe she'saffiliated with that because she
sold out.
So I wish you good luck andyou're selling out.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I Don't think you'll find me on a Tony Robbins stage.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I mean, he's, he's so , he's so big, where would you
fit he's?
He's a massive, he's a massiveman, but he's in shape, I don't
know.
I guess I.
I mean, I've been the guy, theguy has some magic, so I don't
fault anyone who gets, gets intoTony Robbins.
And I was done Tony Robbins,it's like it's, it's great, just
yeah, I'm just be expected tobe really fucking tired by the
(35:46):
end.
He's just no longer for me, andthat's that's.
The other thing is we all haveseasons of you know who's who's,
who's gonna help us now andthen who's not.
So yeah.
Yeah, anything else we want to.
I feel like this we've we'vedone good on this topic.
I feel like we did good.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
I don't know.
Do you want to put some?
You're really good at this.
You haven't put really manyyour insights.
I feel like you have somereally beautiful insights around
starting new things well.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
So so there's there's starting something and then
there's actually getting intosomething and sustaining it, and
I think those are two verydifferent, two different things,
because I sometimes love tostart something.
I probably have a lot of likeoffers and things where I've
started like I think I was gonnahelp people start podcasts.
I think I have, you know, like10 pages of you know equipment
(36:38):
to buy and how to pick your hose, but I never I never just get
into an actual Thank you things.
Things came up that were moreimportant and that's and that
can be okay, and so I think oneis yeah, if you're like there is
something that is superimportant, find a way to get on
the hook.
So, like you know, carrie, Ithink you signing up with this,
(37:01):
this program, where they're good, they're gonna drag you through
the process, just like you knowus with the book writing thing,
it's like they drag you throughthe process.
Let's.
They're like, yeah, you're justgonna be a time where you're
like I don't want to do this andthen we're just gonna come in
like poke at you and make you doit.
So I'd say that is an importantthing about like really
starting something with theintention to become the person
(37:23):
who actually does the thing.
Don't do it alone, like put somemoney on it One way or the
other.
And that's why I you know a lotof people listening my click.
This is this is like that's not, that's not cool.
But it's very common in thecoaching space and actually in a
lot of business, to sell aproduct that does not exist yet,
offering like, like I'm gonnateach you over an eight-week
(37:47):
period how to become you knowthe Superman workout, whatever,
and then once it sold, then okay, I guess I better fucking come
up with the material.
But a lot of software productsare like that.
A lot of video games now aremore and more like that, where
it's like you buy it and youbasically Bought the beta.
(38:07):
They're still finishing theproducts, but because they Sold
it to a bunch of people, nowthey're, they're gonna finish it
.
So as long as you know you'lleventually deliver the goods,
there's there's nothing wrongwith that.
In fact, that can be a good wayto ensure you actually do
finish the goods, because ifit's well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
create the thing and then, whenI've created the thing, then I'm
(38:28):
gonna figure out who to sell itto, there's a good chance that
might never happen.
So I think it's yeah you couldput you on the hook by paying
them or have someone pay you andthen you owe them.
So I think that is a reallygood way to truly make the.
The leap is yeah, I don't.
I don't think many leapsactually happen by by themselves
(38:49):
.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
There's the appearance of luck, but I I
think it's just because usuallywe're just so, our view is so
narrowed like that.
That.
What was it?
Speaker lab, what are theycalled?
Mm-hmm, they've probably beenat like 14 other conferences
You've been to, just you nevernoticed Guys.
Probably like I've seen youwalk by these things like what,
(39:13):
finally, what do you mean, youso?
Speaker 3 (39:18):
It's so, it's so true what you just said, though I
mean like literally, when I sentJustin a message, I told him
about this, and his response washow can?
I think?
It's probably something Likehow can I support you?
And my response is basicallylike hold me accountable to this
.
And hence we're here on apodcast, because it's gonna mean
that If I show up on thispodcast as I say this, you
better for keeping movingforward, carry.
And I've told my closest friendsand it's true, because I could
(39:38):
even go into this program and Ispecifically told some of my
closest friends because I waslike you guys, I know I want to
car on myself on this.
Like I Can feel it.
I can feel how easy would befor me to sit here and sign up
for that and not do anything,and so that's why I specifically
told some of my closest friends, because I was like I know you
guys won't let me fall down onthis, because everybody who I've
told this to has been like fuckyeah, that's exactly what you
(39:59):
should be doing, carry.
And and then I get this fullcircle of support.
That's like keep going, keepgoing, keep going.
And I know that when thosemoments when I am Scared that I
would all my other weird frickin, imposter stuff or whatever
comes up.
It'll be just a message.
I'll go, hey, justin, or hey,so-and-so, and you guys will
make me like, okay, go carry.
But it's part of that, isactually a part of, I think,
(40:20):
exactly what you've said, evenin that, and what I've just said
is being willing to even say Iwant the support to keep going
because it means enough for me.
It means enough to me to say tosomebody can you please help me
make sure that I keep doingthis and hold me accountable to
myself.
I don't need to do this for me,but I need you to help me stay
accountable to myself.
And because we can, we cantotally Cark out on stuff and
(40:42):
when it's important enough, it'sreally important that we have
the support around us to get itdone.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah, and then I don't know.
Just, I'm thinking of you knowthe the whole book launching
Process, which it doesn't stop.
The book is always there andpeople could always go like, oh,
how's the book doing?
And it's it's one of those likeI have like what I would like
in my mind, and then there'slike how it is, but then there's
something about that questionthat is like supportive of like
(41:07):
they want, they want it to bedoing well, and then it's like,
well, okay, how could I, howcould I make it, how could I do
something to support the book orwhatever it makes me think like
, well, I guess I could postabout it or I don't know tell, I
could tell the next person Imeet that I have the fucking
book.
And so it's just like thoselittle things, even if it's like
, okay, I'm maybe not doing asbig as I want to yet, I mean,
(41:31):
even if I'm just doing 10%,that's way better than the zero.
The zero that it would havebeen if didn't put it out there,
didn't have the sport and thendidn't have the people kind of
coming back later and going like, yeah, what's going on with
that.
It's like, oh yeah, okay, Iguess I, that's right, I do want
to do something.
And then you take at least oneor two steps and yeah, all this
stuff, even if it doesn't happenas quickly, whereas, big Lee,
(41:55):
it's happening.
Yeah and when you're enjoying it, when it's something that makes
you feel orgasmic.
Carrie's fifth Pleasure of life.
(42:15):
From down under, I'm alsoavailable for, you know,
spitball and ideas and coming upwith titles and things like
that.
So you know, this just have tobe my creative service.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Gotta go to the depths your osgasm.
A pleasure, just come on out tomy dick.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
That's how they say.
I'm not doing the New Zealandaccent because there's a whole
YouTube video when this guy, akiwi talking about his deck, but
he says it in a way.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Then you go to six and get some fortune chops.
I'm gonna have six of them.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
All right.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Let's, let's wrap up.
Yeah, read your thing again,but I lost.
Oh wait, I just want to tellpeople to you know, find you on
Facebook, carry norly Kerri in,or le y1.
That's on Facebook and thenit's without the one at
Instagram.
So definitely follow it.
You know, for podcasts andbooks and crypto and Not not too
(43:49):
distant future, there's gonnabe public speaking opportunities
.
So if you go to places wherepeople speak in public, carrie
will be there and bringchocolate, because she loves
(44:11):
chocolate and dancing.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
So and Ask for a hug, because I ask ask, ask for it
first.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah ask may I have?
I want a hug, can I have one?
And she might say yes or shemight say no, but if you don't
ask, you'll never know.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
I think that's really pretty much sums it up, doesn't
it?
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Yeah, just like.
Just like my Norwegian managertold me was working in Germany.
He said it is nice boys, don'task, nice boys, don't get.
Yeah, deep thoughts.
I don't know why it was sogendered, but probably Probably
when he was a little boy inNorway, but I don't know.
This big beautiful eyes and hissparkly skin and big eyelashes
(45:01):
she sees guys, just look likeyour stereotypical Norwegian
Godlike person.
Where am I supposed to be doingnerd engineering with this guy?
And I'm just lost in his eyes.
I mean, yeah, so maybe that'llbe in a future book of mine.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Yeah, just speaking of new things, justin does have
a new book coming.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah, well, and I also know.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Sometimes yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
I also know not to not to talk about it until yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Just like I have five million more coming by the way,
when you start to get into thisworld for anyone who's
listening.
And then we can wrap this by theway, because if you look at me
and you say there's four andJustin, whenever he decides to
put out another one or he doesanother thing or wherever he's
going with all this, once youstart you kind of can't like.
It's kind of delicious anddivine and wonderful and like
once you do one, you kind ofwant to keep going and I don't
(46:06):
know anyone, I don't, they'rejust amazing.
So like if you, if you arelistening to this and you are
called into the messenger world,whether you choose to walk all
the way into the path that Ihave, all the way straight into
Getting paid to speak, orwhether it is the start of going
into being an author, goinginto doing any this podcasting,
(46:27):
it's an amazingly and I say thisbecause as much as I started
the beginning of the saying likeit's a long road and it isn't.
I'm not kidding and I can sayjust I'm sure Justin would agree
it's not like financially, themost like immediate experience
of money for a lot of people tostart this path, but it is one
of the most rewarding I have Iever oh, yeah, and so I would
(46:50):
say don't quit your day job.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
I know I haven't, you know.
Oh, and also one I'll add.
A word of caution is onceyou've decided that you want to
do something completely,completely new, you really want
to leap into somethingcompletely different than your
everyday norm.
We were talking about tellingme, but the caveat is tell
(47:14):
people that are gonna besupportive yes, probably.
Don't tell your family, don'ttell your close friends, because
they're gonna be like, well,what if?
What if there's this littlevoice in their head, this come
up.
Well, shit, what if they aresix?
They're not gonna want to hangout with me, and then they'll
feel lonely and they'll feel sad, and they don't want to feel
sad.
So they'll be angry and they'llbe like, well, that's a stupid
(47:37):
idea.
Do you know how much workthat's gonna be?
No one's gonna listen to you.
So Find people that are doingwhat it is you want to do
already, have done that, and aregonna go like that's awesome,
like, yeah, how can I help youwith that?
Um, because, yeah, I'm anauthor, but I'm also a toast
master.
I did lots of toast masters,which is lots of public speaking
, so I know the road of publicspeaking.
(47:58):
I just haven't been paid yetfor it, but I'm always a big
supporter of people publicspeaking.
So someone's like I'm thinkingof public speaking.
I'm like, yeah, do it, do itAnywhere, whatever, find a way.
Yeah be careful of who.
You say that I'm gonna go dothis Because, yeah, your average
person is gonna take a big shiton you.
(48:18):
And it's not because they hateyou even though they might say I
hate you, you'll never be goodat this.
It's because they love you somuch.
They don't want to lose you intheir life and they they might.
Yeah, so, yeah.
So when you have the friendsthat you can, that's that's when
things are going really well,is when you have the friends
(48:39):
that you can always say likethis is what.
I'm doing.
They're just like yes thatsounds great.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
I have friends like that now, yeah unless, of course
you do, you're making a reallybad decision and then you want
the same friends to say that's areally bad decision.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Yeah, that's, that's true, yeah, yeah.
If it's like, yeah, someone'sgonna help me get into public
speaking, they're only charginga million dollars, I'm about to
sign over my house and like likethat, no, don't know no, no no,
no, no, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I'mgonna do something.
I I run it by a friend or twoand go like oh, you don't need
(49:15):
that shit, why don't you don'tneed that shit.
Like You're just wasting yourtime at this point, like you
just go do, go do things.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
There is a line, there is a fine line.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
So yeah, with that, let's wrapup the show.
So thank you.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
Thanks, justin.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Good, I might good.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
I and.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
You can find me, justin wink PhD, on all the
socials and you can emailpodcast at Justin wink calm and
I think I already said you'lljust look at the show notes for
Carrie.
And thanks so much, carrie, forbeing on the show.
It's been a delight to.
We've been talking abouttalking on the podcast for a
long time and we it happened.
So thank you for taking theleap which forced another leap
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of you being on the show.
Thank you so much and, withthat, good day.
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