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November 12, 2025 54 mins

If the title of this episode made you feel attacked - then you're the person that needs to listen the most. 

In this episode, Steve and Mary Alessi are tackling one of the biggest relationship killers—defensiveness. You'll hear raw, personal stories from their early life and marriage as they share practical advice—including how to recognize when YOU'RE the defensive one (even if you don't think you are), and how to listen to what people are saying without going into battle mode. 

If you're tired of always feeling like your walls are up or fighting with a loved one who never listens, this conversation will help you break through the defensive barrier and build stronger, happier relationships.

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