NFL Week Four Recap, Joe Burrow or CJ Stroud, Dudes and Duds

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Informed, outspoken, wild, fearless.
This is the Fantasy FootballDudes podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
What is up, my dudes?
This is Trent with the FantasyFootball Dudes podcast.
I am joined by Jordan Seth andPhil is back.
We are going to recap week four.
Maybe Taka Tad bit aboutwaivers, where we were right,
where we were wrong, who hurt usthe most?
More NFL news and talks.
Remember, we will be backtomorrow.
I will be back tomorrow withsome waiver ads, more waiver ads

(00:36):
, but we'll be back on yeah,I'll be back on Phil how we
doing buddy, you know you have agood weekend.
You know, just do a littlequick weekend recap here.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Doing good, pal.
Just yeah, doing all right.
I just got back from SouthernCalifornia and, yeah, just just
grinding away.
Coached a soccer game onSaturday, Got a elite group of
under six year olds that I coach.
So just grinding away on that,Other than that, just chilling.

(01:06):
Got to visit with some familytoday and, yeah, overall was
pretty good.
You know I was yeah, we cantalk about this a little bit
later but yeah, overall prettygood.
Just, you know, just layingback and relaxing.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Seth, how we doing.
You know you were feeling alittle bit under the weather.
That's part of the reason wedecided to go remote.
We didn't think it'd look goodif Seth had his mask on for the
pod for YouTube.
But how we doing, seth?

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, I just took it off.
Right now I even wear it in myown house.
And yeah, I woke up in my cartoo.
Yeah, I always rent in the car,even if I'm not sick.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
So that's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
What about while you're harvesting berries.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
I don't harvest berries, but yeah, I would when
everyone yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
When you wear those big, when you drive those big,
those big things that you drivelike cross the lines basically
Drive harvesters.
Seth's a harvester.
I thought those were berryharvesters that you drive.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah, but I usually don't drive when they're like
harvesting, you know that's good, I just transport them from.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
A to B.
He's a transporter, Phil.
Huge difference.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
He's an international harvester.
Have you seen this guy straightup, tank topped out and driving
on like one of the busiest, oneof the busiest highways in all
of Central?

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Valley.
It's the only way to get adecent tan.
So I mean, if you're on therefor an hour, might as well get a
tan while you're doing it.
So are you just potting it up?

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Are you listening?
I'm sorry, we even never talkedabout this on the pod you just
potted up.
What do you do when you're outthere?
Smile and wave at the easelsUsually.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
I'll have a podcast lined up.
So usually I'll know like oh, Igot to move like four machines
today.
It's going to take like sixhours.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
So I just find like three podcasts and line it up
you know you should not belistening to a podcast when
you're driving equipment thatbig worth that much money.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Seth.
You should have 10 miles anhour Trent.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
And also, all of a sudden.
All of a sudden, are you, hisboss, Trent.
Like, who are you?
What is this guy doing?
He doesn't know what you'redoing.
Like, hey, Trent, when's thelast time you've transported one
of those harvesters?

Speaker 4 (03:06):
That's like.
I don't trust you to drinkcoffee and drive, much less wear
a helmet when you're doing iteither.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
So yeah, here's the deal.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
I am going to brush his teeth with a light on to
make sure he gets everythingLike I, just like.
Hey, here's the deal.
I'm for his struggle singingand having his eyes closed.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
I'm a guy we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
You don't need to be instructing anyone how to drive
a a machine.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
I am for cliff certified.
No one else on here is that?
Okay, Phil, you probably knowme.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
No, I am certified for what it's worth.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Do you know it like yeah, you've seen all those
videos.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Jacket in the hot tub like I can't believe that any
of that.
What you just said is accurate.
It is a life jacket, oh mygoodness Jordan.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
How are we doing, man ?
You know you hanging in there.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's you know that saying like, if
you don't have anything good tosay, don't say it all.
That's how I feel about thisSunday.
I don't have anything good tosay, so I won't say it at all.
I'm just kind of rough.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, I understand you saw me this Sunday, though.
We had a good conversation,friendly conversation.
What I said?
You saw me this Sunday, had afriendly conversation when we
walked by each other at church.
Gave me some fashion advice.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
Yeah, I told you, just not wearing those chimes
you wore the last five.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
You can't even remember it.
It's not rough of a day.
Yeah, it was that.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, I mean, jordan looks like he needs some sleep.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
It's been a rough day , I think my, you know the only
good thing about this weekendwas, you know, my diamond backs
qualified for the Clutchpostseason.
What did you talk about?
I had to play Seth Dodgers.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
We'll see about that.
We have to go to a game.
Yeah, I think we might have togo if they get to LA.
So is that?

Speaker 3 (05:01):
a common thing.
Do people say qualified for theplayoffs?
I think they usually.
That's just me.
I've never heard anyone saythat.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
But maybe that's the thing you are an angels fan.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
So I don't know, if you know, I'm not an angels fan.
By blood I'm an angel, yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
The angels.
Yeah, not to get baseball, butyou know the angels lost more
than what is it.
The A's had a better recordthan the angels.
Like that's pretty sad.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
Imagine having the two best players in baseball on
your team and not even gettingclose to the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, these two guys.
You know they're wearingDodgers.
I'm wearing a Dodgers hat,jordan's wearing D-back shirts,
seth's wearing a Dodgers shirt.
But look at this right here.
I went to the Auburn Georgiagame this weekend, had a good
time.
A lot of people were pointingat this shirt.
Lots of little kids thought itwas really cool.
Bucky's right there.
Phil, like you can check thatout on YouTube at TFF dudes.

(05:51):
but this was all this was allthe rage at the Auburn Georgia
game.
Everyone was pointing at this.
They all thought it was cool.
The War Eagles I think that'stheir mascot.
They almost got it done butyeah, it was a lot of fun, but
we probably need to get intothese.
Yeah, Bucky's, I'm going to getPhil really good, my uncle got
you can't miss that?

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Did you get barbecue there?
Is that, is it different?
I had imagined the one I wentin Texas is probably different
than the one you went to.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
No, I got a little rushed at Bucky's and this is
middle class paradise.
Honestly, it's huge.
I almost bought a mascot outfit.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Trailer class no no, it's way higher, it's way higher
than that.
So I went.
I'm the kind of person Iimagined when I walked through
the doors.
I just see you.
I actually have a pictureshaking the statues hand.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
I wish I had it for the pod to show on here, but no,
it was great.
My uncle got a brisket burritolike it.
It's just a good time.
You know, they got the hugebeef jerky selection.
I spent about 10 minutes there.
I easily could have spent 45minutes there, but you only
spent 10 minutes there.
We had to go to the tailgate.
We had to go to Tiger walk.
We were on a tight.
We were on a tight schedule.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
You actually haven't been to Bucky's if you were only
there for 10 minutes.
I'm just letting you knowthat's how I feel, first time.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, Well, hey, Phil you live in.
Bucky's.
Phil, you've been to Bucky's,you have a t-shirt.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
I.
I got a collage, so I did enjoytheir, their, their.
I got a key chain.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
What the?

Speaker 5 (07:14):
heck is a collage.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
It's basically like a breakfast biscuit sausage.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Have you ever heard of those?
What A breakfast.
Biscuit sausage, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
I went to Bucky's.
I got a collage.
No one gets those there.
That's really lame.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
I don't do it in Texas, that's a Texas thing,
look it up I know what it is.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
It is a Texas thing.
I know what it is.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
What do you mean?
Breakfast biscuit sausage?
Like you mean a breakfastsausage biscuit.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
No, it's hard to describe.
It's like think of a hot dogbut all encapsulated and then
like cheddar sausage or likecheddar sausage jalapeno, and
it's like kind of like theirthing, like there's there's
multiple different kinds, likethere's a variety of different
kinds of collage.
I believe it's pronouncedColossi trend is not Colossians.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Like the Bible, it's Colossi, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I think it's Colossi.
Is it German?

Speaker 2 (08:09):
I thought it was German or Polish.
I wasn't sure.
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, I could be wrong, but someone's screaming
at us right now that we'reabsolutely completely off.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
But hey, let's get into week four.
Guys, you know, like for weekfour, yeah, we, it was a, it was
an interesting week I would say, you know, would we all agree
with that?
No, yes, no.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
No comment Of anything.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
the shocker, would you guys say?
Maybe not the shocker?
We had some close games.
Jets, Jets Chiefs had a closegame.
I don't want to talk about theJets, they look decent though.
Today the I think thecommanders played shockingly
well, right, I mean we.
I think they played closer totheir potential.
Would you guys agree?
Disagree to that?

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Maybe Sam Howe showed a little bit closer to his
potential.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, robinson had a good game.
Yeah, I Jordan you were talkingto me about this earlier Like
maybe you aren't sure what tothink of the Eagles.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
Yeah, I mean I think they're OK.
I just don't know, like, howgood they are.
Like I think I kind of know howgood the Niners are, but kind
of everyone else in the NFC, Ijust don't really know how good
they are.
I kind of feel like that sameway about the Cowboys, a little
bit Trent, like just I don'tknow how good they are.
Like I think I know both teamsare good, I just don't know like

(09:27):
how good like the Niners, likethey're dominant.
I still have questions withBrock Purdy.
You know, like what can he doin a game where the other team
can kind of meet themoffensively and maybe no one can
?
So he may not do that all yearlong.
I think at some point BrockPurdy is going to have to make
plays.
I just don't know.
It may not be the playoffs hehas to do that.
Well, it's Super Bowl, for allI know, but I don't know, but

(09:50):
like I'm not good.
The Eagles and the Cowboys areyeah.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
They said that I don't think Debo Samuel caught a
pass today, I mean he was hers.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
I think, yeah, I just think they didn't need to use
them, so they just said whatever.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, I also saw a meme that said Brock it was a
picture of Harry Potter like ina little shack I've never seen
the Harry Potter movies, but itsaid it was a picture of Harry
Potter like all like in a littletiny room.
And it said Brock Purdy livingBrock Purdy's house on a
$900,000 a year salary.
I thought that was pretty funny.
You know with how expensiveeverything is up there in the

(10:26):
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Should we recap?

(11:08):
You want to recap where we wereright, where we were wrong?
Then we'll go into who hurtsyou and some other news and
noteworthy stuff from thisweekend.
Do you think that's the bestthing we should do?

Speaker 3 (11:16):
I think that's probably the best, and we kind
of I, so I'm going to.
I started talking about thecommanders.
I eventually wanted to uh, tokind of segue over that, but
we'll talk about one of actuallyprobably cli our second biggest
win in terms of our starts andstits.
Sit, excuse me, I'm going togive it to you, jordy, with
Terry McClaren, you want to talkabout that?
Start a little bit.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Yeah, I think I get.
I got a little bit lucky umwith it just because he
recovered a fumble for atouchdown, so like that boosted.
But he still had eight, eightcatches for 86 yards, 10 targets
.
So the volume was there.
Got a little bit lucky withthat fumble recovery for a

(11:58):
touchdown.
But how many points did he havein half point?
He had 18.
So he has 12 without thetouchdown.
Yeah, that's not great.
Um, hey, better be lucky thanhe had?

Speaker 3 (12:09):
No, he had it happen.
Did he have it?
No, he didn't.
Oh될.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah he did so he fell on a fumble.
So he fell on a fumble in theend zone, phil.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
OK, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, he's a commander's on a really good
smash spot.
This upcoming week they playthe commanders and just to get
ahead of things by weeks, thisweek we do have by weeks the
Browns, Chargers, Bucks andSeahawks will all be on a buy
for week five.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yeah, just for what it's worth.
I'm not seeing Terry McLarenregistering any, registering any
touchdown, whether you look atplayer stats.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
It's not in there, it's a fumble recovery.
It's not like a receiving orrushing, it's a fumble recovery.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah, I think it's not even on sleeper that even
registered a touchdown.
But yeah, I mean he did.
Sounds like he did cover afumble in the end zone, but for
a touchdown.
So yeah, I mean to some extent,jordan, you got a little bit
lucky there, but 18 points notbad.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
Yeah, not bad.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Alrighty, moving on here, let's, let's go.
I'm going to go with a sit justto get it over with here.
Seth, I know you probably wantto put yourself out of your
misery.
We're going to talk about MarkAndrews a little bit.
You want to.
You want to go into that?

Speaker 4 (13:29):
So I know me and Trent talked about this after
saying like yeah, they mightforce feed Mark Andrews because
they're going to need to and Iknow to, like their starting
receivers didn't play and I knowZade flowers, I said, would
have a good game and I think hehad a decent game if it's going
to load.
But anyways, he went for youThree catches for 56.

(13:52):
So not anything good.
But Mark Andrews out of monstergame he had five for 80 and two
touchdowns.
So I mean I guess if he hasfive for 80, like you're not,
what is that?
That 10 points and the and thedifference is 12 more right With
the two touchdowns.

(14:13):
Uh, they just relied on MarkAndrews and I think a big part
of that Lamar did run quite abit, like I said he would, but I
think that's what freed openMark Andrews.
He extended some plays, he ranthe ball to keep drives going
and then Mark Andrews would getopen.
So I think Trent kind ofpredicted that one after I made
him my sit.
But y'all take the L here.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Andrews had two really nice touchdown catches.
You know he had the one in thecorner than one where Lamar kind
of ran around.
But yeah, it looked like MarkAndrews kind of returned to form
maybe today and the Brownsreally just didn't look good.
You know we had the DTR.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
The problem was they looked so good the last three
games.
They're defense, yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Do you and DTR not?
Our DTR got the start Jordan.
I was kind of curious to seehow that would go.
Watson was a scratch.
The Browns did not look good.
They look like they're.
Yeah, dtr, dorian ThompsonRobinson.
He had one fantasy point today36 attempts, 19 completions, 121
yards, three interceptions.

(15:13):
There was a little bit ofTwitter hype on DTR.
You know the last couple ofweeks what he would do with that
opportunity.
I think Watson is not.
I have a dynasty league, deepone.
I picked up DTR this morningjust when I heard the news,
saying like hey, maybe somethingcrazy happens, but definitely I
don't think he's the guy.
Well, same game here.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Trent, you kind of had a, I you had, I think you
had a win here with one of yoursits in terms of the the running
backs, the Ravens running backs.
You want to talk about that alittle bit?
Yeah, I, I just didn't feelgood with the matchup and I also
don't really just know what'sgoing on there.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Gus Edwards had 15 attempts for 48 yards.
That's not going to cut it.
The volume was definitely there.
And who's the other guy?
Justice Hill?
It doesn't seem like anyonereally played that well in that
backfield.
Am I, am I wrong on that?
Jordan to Justice Hill?
He didn't even.
He had three attempts for 33yards.

(16:12):
This is a mess.
Yeah, I I don't know what to dowith this backfield.
I think Lamar just has to takeover.
I didn't like the matchup.
Tough little stretch of gameshere.
The Raven, I don't know, maybeit's not tough, but I really not
interested in playing theRavens running backs.
Even this week against theBrowns.
Did Lamar have a rushingtouchdown?

(16:34):
He had, he had to the.
He had two rushing touchdowns.
I mean.
Help Melvin.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
I mean he had two rushing touchdowns.
I mean help, Melvin Gordon hadas many carries as Justice Hill
Trent, Like they both had three.
Gus Edwards is the guy who hadthe most carries, but even still
Justice Hill had second mostrushing yards.
Then Melvin Gordon was actuallybelow Lamar Jackson, so it's
kind of a it's.
I don't know, do you count thatas a as a win, though, Because

(17:01):
Lamar is basically a runningback at this point.
No, I would.
Yeah, I count that as a win forwho I said not to sit?

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Lamar Jackson, I'm very high on Still and back to,
he has 22 points, 30 points 28points.
He's playing really good rightnow.
He's QB eight on the season.
I think those numbers are goingto just keep getting better.
Speaking of speaking of runningbacks you hit on, you want to
talk about Josh Jacobs.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
You came with me rushing around.
Is there anything?
Anything you wanted to go?
Or do you want to talk about arunning back that you just
completely missed?
No, let's go.
I got Jacobs right now.
You know I'm on a hot one rightnow.
The listeners you know I'm on ahot one right now.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
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(18:00):
Garoppolo wasn't playing, thatthey had eight in O'Connell.
But yeah, it was a greatmatchup for Josh Jacobs.
He had a.
He only had a rushing touch.
He had 17.
Really, he didn't have a greatrushing game.
He went 17 for 58 where hereally did get his.
He had 11 targets, eightreceptions, 81 yards receiving.
So those half point PPR, PPRgames.

(18:21):
Josh Jacobs really helped you alot.
He's RB 28 on the season, but Ithink he's going to start to
get going here.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Pretty.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
It was a closer game than what it should have been.
I thought with the Raiders here, but they made it a good game.
What were you going to say,Phil?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
He didn't.
When I saw him, trent and maybeyou guys would disagree here I
didn't think he looked that badLike did you?

Speaker 2 (18:45):
say he didn't look great Well on the on the ground.
He had 13,.
He had 17 attempts for 58 yards.
He averaged 3.4 yards per carry.
It's just like where he savedyears.
He had 81 receiving yards witheight catches, 11 targets.
It's just the rushing game Like, yeah, he looked good, he just
didn't have the success on theground.

(19:06):
I thought he would have.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
He didn't have any big, and they're playing from
behind the whole game too, yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
What do you think about Aiden O'Connell?
I know how much you love JimmyG Jordan.
Like what is he like?
Like Jimmy G might be, it'slike Jimmy G and Davis Mills
might be your favorite playerson any NFL roster.
Like, what do you think aboutAiden O'Connell there?
You like him a little bitbetter for fantasy purposes.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
For what it's worth.
I had like 70% of my volume onDraftKings today had Aiden
O'Connell in the lineup, so uh.
I'm sorry he did not know thathe was also like literally like
$4,000.
Like the same price is like amen price running back.
So like I mean you reallydidn't need much.
I think he actually met valuebecause he came on kind of late,

(19:51):
had a rushing touchdown.
He was not the reason I lost myA today, but um it, it, uh, I
don't know.
Like I thought he would.
Honestly I thought he would dobetter than what he did.
He kind of looked better inthat last drive of the fourth
quarter in the fourth quarterbut it was ugly in the first
half.
He just had no time in thepocket and he holds on the ball
too long yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Clio Mack had six sacks today.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, no, it was filthy, it was so bad it was
easy, it was bad.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Uh, he almost brought them back he figured it out.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Yeah, he figured it out in the fourth quarter and,
uh, yeah, I think it's a lot.
It would have been in there inthe first half.
Vonte missed most of that firsthalf.
Uh, for sure, the whole secondquarter that might have.
Uh, that might have helped too.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
What happened with the Vonte Jordan?
Was it just?

Speaker 5 (20:41):
uh, um, he uh his shoulder.
I think he popped.
Maybe stinger popped hisshoulder.
He said his shoulders very sore.
Um, yeah, he basically saidafter the game that he put his
big boy, big big boy pants onand came back in the game.
He said other words but um, Idon't know if you want me to say

(21:02):
those words.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, let's keep it.
Let's keep it PG.
Speaking of keeping it, pg,seth watched the whole toy story
game.
Seth, how was that?
Did you like it?

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Uh, I mean at the very beginning, like it was
there having technicaldifficulties, but I think they
were like definitely like somecool moments.
Like definitely like in between, like some plays it was like
slow and not like veryinteresting, but like there was
the one play where, like Bijanjuke the guy and I was, I had
the other broadcast up too andthe toy story game was behind

(21:35):
the broadcast a little bit andit was cool Like it.
Like the mapping on it isactually pretty good.
Like he did the exact same moveand like even at the very end
where he like put his arm outand like dropped the ball, it
did that in the thing too.
So I was like it's kind of cool, definitely some cool moments.
But like overall I probablygive it like a six to seven out

(21:56):
of 10.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
So you would do the highlights were better.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
The highlights were good, yeah, yeah, if you were,
then there's some fun momentstoo, if you were seven years old
, you would love it, though, ohyeah, if you're a kid, you, you
love it.
Yeah, I think it's nice nothaving commercials.
It like literally just has liketoy story trivia, nfl trivia, a
bunch of stuff like that and itwas pretty cool.

(22:20):
The other thing that was cool isknow how many teams are.
You know how many teams arelike mascots of, like um are
like an animal.
I don't have 32.
How many see there you go, andthe more you know, it's 14.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Interesting.
What, uh?
What about like slinky for thefirst downsides Did like Zerg
streak or anything Like?
What good things happenedbesides what you just said?

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Um, I mean there were different like.
There were like some otherinteresting moments, like
there's one like where you justbe like playing and then all of
a sudden you up.
Those would come out of nowhereand Booger McFarney would be
like what is going on?
Like there's an alien invasion.
You know, it was so, so funny,like different moments like that
.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
So did you have donuts?
I know you were pretty sold ondudes with donuts.
Did you go get some donuts forthis game or what's that?

Speaker 4 (23:07):
So I woke up feeling pretty terrible, but I was like
I'm already up and I'm going towatch this game, so I got coffee
and then, luckily, I had somemuffins left over that I baked a
couple of days ago.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
So I ate those.
You baked the muffins, huh, yep, that's a power move there,
seth, uh, all right, enough ofSeth's baking.
We should have uh baked withSeth.
Uh on the, uh on the on theWednesday I was talking about
like all right yeah let's moveon, yeah, yeah.

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Just you know, today's, what are you going to
say?

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Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yeah, yeah, so we're uh, I kind of want to did.
You guys see, and we're goingto talk about this a little bit
because I'm going to kick itover to to Jordan for James
Connor, but he got into a littlebit of a tussle the games are
getting chippy today.
Right, the Raiders, the Raiders, uh, the Raiders charters game
got a little bit chippy.
A guy named Diablo, I believeit was, kind of did like a
little bit of a slam on the, uh,the punt returner, his name was

(24:36):
Diablo.
They said that on the on redzone.
Speaking of red zone, actually,we're just I'm going to go off
a little bit of tangent.
I think it's gotten better.
Jordan, would you agree?

Speaker 5 (24:46):
Uh, tad bit better.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Tad bit better.
Okay, I think it's gottenbetter, but uh.
So there was that scrapO'Connor almost got into a fight
, uh the uh at the end, or Ithink he did get into a little
bit of a tussle Uh with, I think, someone on the the Niners
defensive line, so let's justtalk about that.
He was your sit, I think you.
You, uh, you hit the nail onthe head here, but you want to

(25:08):
talk about a little bit.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
Yeah, what did he have?
He had like six, six point one,yeah.
So he had 11 carries, 52 yards.
So One catch, four yards on twotargets.
So I mean I the game actuallywill.

(25:33):
The Cardinals actually, man,they're fighting hard, they play
hard, they can they do so theyactually they kept the game
closer than I thought they would.
But again, like it's just atough, tough matchup for him and
the he doesn't.
He's not getting the volume inthe passing game which I think
he did last year, which is alittle bit interesting to me.
So he's more rushing dependentthis year than he has, and maybe

(25:57):
that's because Dopp is a betterpasser than whatever they had
there last year.
Like he's able to move the balldown the field and so like
Marky's Brown's actually reallyplayable this year.
And I haven't been playing himand I think I haven't really
been looking at him and I thinkI need to start looking at him
more, just in general.
But, um, yeah, I got there withConnor.
I think it was a pretty goodsit, so I was pretty right on
that one yeah you're, you goahead, trent.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, no mark.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Marquis Brown has three games in a row with at
least 13 half point PPR points.
They are playing really good.
Joshua Dobbs is.
He had 25 points against theNiners today.
He had 17 versus Dallas.
Last week he had 25 versus NewYork Giants not a terrible
matchup for him.
This upcoming week he's 9%rostered.

(26:40):
The Cardinals are going.
They're hosting the Bengalsthis week, so maybe another spot
you can play him with some ofthese bye weeks I I don't know.
You know what I mean, but Dobbslooks pretty good, you know,
and you can't even buy hisjersey at the games.
You guys see that video.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
You can now buy it.
They did a little segment on iton on an FL red or on red zone.
Yeah smart move on his partdoing that Smart move on his
part.
He's better than Kyler Murray.
I think we can all agree tothat.
I don't think that I'm notjoking.
I don't think they play likeWere you guys excited about

(27:18):
Kyler Murray last season, evenwhen he was healthy?

Speaker 2 (27:24):
No.
After the video game?
No, did he?
He started out decent, thoughlast year didn't he like his
first two games?
His first four, five, four outof five games he had at least 20
points, and then his last game.
He had 25 points before andthen he got 1726 2019.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yeah, he had a solid season and I think that he is.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
What is Kyler Murray's roster?
What is he rostered right now?
Phil, he's still rostered about36, 36% rostered.
He might be a guy that I don'tknow.
You might.
I don't know when he'savailable to come back, but it's
definitely he might be a stashthat this Cardinals team, like
Jordan, said they fight, theyplay really hard, we scrappy, so
I, I don't know, maybe, so Iwill we got we got Kyler Murray

(28:08):
news this weekend.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
The news is that he will not come off the pup
Eligible to come off the PuplessMonday, but that's not expected
to happen.
He's still considered weeksaway from being able to play.
Yeah, maybe a dynasty target.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, maybe you can throw a third round to somebody
or something, a super flex, I'mnot sure, but Cardinals look
pretty good, I will say.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, he looked okay.
I mean the I will.
I'm gonna give Jordan a littlebit of love here on a sit.
That he said but did not.
So you got a.
You got to Recognize here.
I listened to the pot at leasta little bit.
Jordan, you were saying that Iwas surprised that AJ Dylan
wasn't your sit.
He scored and I think we taughtyou guys talked about a little
bit.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
He scored a total of 1.1 points the guy sucks I got,
I can't make like as such anobvious sit.
You know it's like, it's theequivalent to be like hey, you
should start.
You know, justin Jefferson,this week you should sit, aj,
dylan, like they're like in thesame ballpark of like things
that you should.
You could say you know, wouldyou have said that last year

(29:15):
though?
No, but after three weeks ofthis year I can, I can say that
definitively here from Okay,unless he's going up against a
mascot.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
He's the main guy.
Yeah, yeah so.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
Phil.
He was the main guy for Threeweeks or whatever two weeks and
was horrible.
And it was horrible again withAaron Jones back.
Like the guy's just not good,like he's, I Don't know it's,
it's weird, but he's just notgood.
It bums me up.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
It is a.
It is a little bit of a bummer.
I am going to I'm gonna moveover here to Seth.
We're gonna talk about ZachMoss here.
Seth, you want to?
You want to jump into Zach Moss?

Speaker 4 (29:54):
Yeah, so I'm a bold this week and I said he would
get, like I think I said 20 plustouches and he had Get 18, 18
yards for 70 and one target forand no catch.
But what's interesting aboutthis game is I actually thought
it would be a lot closer but theRams got ahead pretty early and
then the Colts kind of had tocome back and throw and In moss

(30:17):
actually had a really bad gamethrough the first half and in
the second half he did reallywell when the game was closer,
all the way up until, I thinkdid they make it over time.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, it went over.
It went over time.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Yeah.
So I think if, like, if thegame was closer in the first
half, like I think Moss wouldhave finished like a top 5 RB,
like I said.
But unfortunately the game waslike out of hand, like within
the first, like first half,where he had like Like I think
he had one point or somethinglike that through the first half
and then in the second he hadlike eight points where you got

(30:48):
all this carries and yards.
So I think if that wasconsistently through the whole
game, I think he would have hadlike a really good time.
But I mean, nine is not goodfor a start number, but it's
also like it didn't kill you.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, and looking at the running back landscape of
what today was.
Yeah, that's interesting justto see that, let me.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
He did finish and all his projections Seth, just for
what it's worth a touch downwould have really helped you
with him, though.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Yeah, and I think I don't know what the Colts did in
the red zone very much.
I'm not sure who was thefeatured guy there.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, no.
Well, richardson, I think had ahad a rushing touchdown.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yeah, yeah, that would be it then he didn't kill
you.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
But yeah, he wasn't.
He was middle of the pack, hewasn't.
You know it wasn't.
It wasn't a terrible runningback week actually For running
backs.
Do you want to bounce over tominefield?
Yeah, let's go ahead.
So I had Juventa Williams as astart of the week and, honestly,

(32:04):
he got hurt, which is a bummer.
The Broncos fell behind.
I actually thought they weregonna lose this game.
They came back in one, butmaybe a waiver ad Juventa, I
think, to be out a couple weeks.
But a Joe, is it?
Jet Jalil, is that how you sayit?
Jordan Jalil McLaughlin, out ofYoungstown State College, 2%

(32:24):
rostered.
He had 17 fantasy points, hehad seven attempts for 72 yards,
he had three catches and hecaught a touchdown.
So Jalil McLaughlin had a goodgame.
I think this was a good spotfor Juventa.
He heard his hip.
I think he's be out a week ortwo.
From what I'm hearing right now, a lot can change and a lot of

(32:44):
people thought P Rhin would bethe guy, and even looking on a
sleeper.
Their depth chart was Juventa,simaje, dwayne Washington and
Jalil ended up jumping Two ofthose guys on the roster.
He's not even on the depthchart on sleeper for some reason
.
So Jalil McLaughlin he was.
He had a solid game.
Double-digit performance yeah,I, so that was a bummer there.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
A train.
Sean.
Sean Payton has talked aboutJalil McLaughlin the last couple
weeks about right how he wantsto get a more involved.
He's explosive, so I wouldn'tbe surprised if you see a lot of
Jalil McLaughlin if Juventa'sout.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, maybe a waiver, add there.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
So did anyone watch that game?

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah, bits and pieces who do the?

Speaker 4 (33:32):
who do they play next week?

Speaker 2 (33:34):
the Broncos play next week.
They play the Jets.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
Hmm, garrett Wilson, big game yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
I'm surprised how bad the Broncos defense is like.
This game actually was ashootout.
The Bears should have won.
I had DJ Moore.
He was my dude of the you knowkind of guy.
I was targeting all leagues.
He had a great game.
Did he have two touchdowncatches?
He looked pretty good.
I still don't understand howthe Bears lost this game other

(34:07):
than they are just the Bears butone, two.
Dj Moore's wide receiver five.
At the moment of this recordinghe had nine targets for eight
receptions, 131 receiving yardsand one touchdown.
Yeah, so I don't know, big, biggame for Puka this week.
I, I don't know like finally athis first career touchdown

(34:29):
catch, he's on fire.
But, phil, where do you?
Who do you want to go to nextyear?

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, we're going to go.
I'm going to go with ThelandSeth.
You had him as a start.
He did exceed his projectionshere.
I think we were you were hopingfor a little bit more out of
Theland, but I'm going to letyou kind of go through this one.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
Yeah, he exceeded by one point is how it was.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
It looks like two.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Right around to you.
Yeah, so I know we had some.
We had some lines on him too,some over unders.
I know we hit the over on that.
So I think we all expectedTheland to have like a pretty
good game.
I honestly thought he wouldhave a better game, probably
more like a last weekperformance.
I don't know about 26 points,but maybe like at 15 or more.

(35:11):
So I think maybe we're justmissing the touchdown there.
But he had eight targets, sevencatches, 76 yards.
I just thought maybe he wouldbe featured a little bit more.
But 11 points, like I thinkthat's okay for your start, but
I think you kind of hope formore, the 15 or up range.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah, I can see what you're saying there a little bit
Like if you're starting him oryou're suggesting a start, you
want him to be far to exceed thethe projection by a little bit
more.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
And he, he is the like wide receiver one there.
So like he's going to havebetter games than 11, like out
of four games.
His worst performance was weekone with two Bryce Young's first
game and then like his lowestscore after that was this week
at 11 and the next one was 16and 26.
So like it's one of his lowerscores, like I think we can

(36:04):
expect him to be like a feat thefeature receiver there yeah,
jordan.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
One thing, that.
What were you saying, jordan?

Speaker 5 (36:14):
I was just saying I think Adam Thielen like going
forward, he is a lot better PPRguy than half point or standard.
Yeah, that extra four or fivepoints in a PPR makes or three
points makes makes a big deal.
It's a big difference.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
The guy, kind of like Jordan, was Terence Marshall
kind of started getting involvedtoday.
He had 10 targets for ninereceptions, 56 yards.
You know that's 10, 10 pointsand half point PPR.
But it's not Terence Marshallthat.
Maybe that hurt Thielen alittle bit, but that's a guy
they kind of talked up all lastseason and this offseason.
So good to see Terence Marshallget involved in that offense

(36:50):
and that's with Bryce Young.
I wonder how they, if theywould have been a little
different, if Dalton would havebeen the guy today, pick six
help hurts those guys too right.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
Yeah and no Mingo, so that actually gives us a boost
to.
Terence Marshall, so I stillthink Mingo has a role in that
offense.
But shoot another good bestball day for me.
Maybe that was the positivetoday.
You know I got 50% TerenceMarshall and best ball 50% Devin
A-chan, so maybe that was thepositive for today for me.

(37:20):
Yeah, those two guys both hadgood games.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Glass, half full Jordan.
You know, look at the long game, not the short game.
A-chan's on fire, though, like,most certainly did not have it,
most certainly didn't have agood game.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
We might be seizing the change the guard there, and
so I like to see their snappercentages.
But he looks really good.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Well, just looking at , I actually started A-chan over
your start of the week, terryMcClourn, at the last second
this morning I was actuallyhappy I did that.
It was good and I wanted toplay him, but I was like let's
just put another running backhere in here.
But most of it had sevenattempts for nine yards.

(38:00):
He did have five targets forthree receptions, but A-chan had
and maybe he just was moreefficient he had eight attempts,
wow.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yep, but he had two TDs.
He had two TDs.

Speaker 5 (38:15):
Yeah, and he busted off the wall and a hundred yards
to run.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yeah, he had eight.
Yeah, his average rushing is12.6.
So, like that's crazy, eightfor he went, eight for a hundred
and one.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
RB six on the season.
I'm a classic player you guys.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
Yeah, do I need to take A-chan off my taxi squad in
my taxi, I think you do.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
I think you do now.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
It's not worth it yeah, pull him off.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
Just watch, it's going to hurt you.
Yeah, it's just one of thosethings.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
If they have two good games, you have to take them
off.
I took Puka off after two goodgames.
Like sometimes it's just likeit's just you can't do it.
What were you saying, phil?

Speaker 3 (39:00):
No, no, no, I was just going to.
If you keep it up, I was goingto move over to the next one.
I was going to move over to thenext, the next thing there, but
I know Jordan started that taxisquad combo.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Well, I, I just want to like I think it's worth it
because I've been a lot ofpeople also in that league.
I have Travis Etienne AlvinKamara who, by the way, had 13
catches today.
Wow, that might be one of themost like under the radar stat
lines.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, no one's talking about.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
Yeah, that's crazy.
He only had 51 yards of rushingin 30, 33 yards on 13 catches.
It's kind of impressive,honestly.
Um, no, but yeah, so I have.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Etienne Go ahead.
No, just talking about thatgame.
Carr did not.
Maybe he shouldn't have played.
They say he was a missed coupleof weeks.
He ended up playing.
He had three fantasy points.
Chris Alave just did terriblefor my fantasy team.
That was the guys that talkabout in the who hurt you
section is Baker.
Baker looks very streamableguys Like uh, he had a good game

(40:04):
.
He did it without Mike Evans,who was Jordan sit of the week.
Mike Evans ended up gettinghurt.
They have a great game, butBaker had 24 fantasy points.
He went 25 for 32, three TDs,one pick, eight rushes, 31 yards
.
Uh, and I was watching hisplays.
His touchdown passes werepretty nice.
He was making the most out ofplays.
I'm starting to get excited forBaker, but be still my heart

(40:29):
Please stop saying that I can'tstand it.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
All right, I'm going to move over.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
You have to admit, baker looked good.
He didn't have.
My heavens, I have no problem.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
I have no problem with you saying that Baker
looked good.
I have a problem with yousaying be still my heart.
You said that now two pods in arow.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Okay, well, yeah, I don't want to be hurt.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
Text it like four days in a row.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
I text it every hour, every morning.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
My Diva of the week might be people who overuse
slogans.
And Trent, you're, your exhibit, a right there.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Yeah, well, here's an idea Turn on your cell.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
A though in trance, one yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Turn on your selfie cam and look at yourself for
exhibit a but a exhibit, thatwas such a thing, or Trent, I
don't.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
I mean, I'll be able to continue this pod.
All right, let's just let'slook at.
Do you want to know who hurt metoday?
You want to know who hurt methis Jets game?

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Do you want to know who will never hurt you?
Well, and that is trophy smack.
Trophy smack is the best placehere.
Fantasy football trophies.
Well, they can hurt you.
If you know someone gets you alast place punch there A better
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But a trophy smack, go towwwtrophysmackcom forward slash

(41:45):
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If you need a championship belt, that Seth left here in the
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(42:05):
They will not hurt you, Ipromise.
So what were you saying, Phil?
Or who was talking?

Speaker 3 (42:12):
I was talking, it would be me rudely interrupted.
The person who hurt me.
I'm going to give my who hurtme right now.
That holding call on sauce,gardener Jets cheese was so bad
it was like and we're going totalk about it because we're
going to go into Jordan starhere but that was such a bad

(42:34):
call.
Does anyone else agree withthat Disagree?
Like I did not think it was badright and that would feel goal.
Feel goal right.
They have to kick a field goalthere.
I think it was third down.
They're going to kick a fieldgoal there.
I don't think they're going forit.
I think the Jets, I think LutWilson, zach Wilson, gets the
ball downfield, they end upscoring a TD, winning that game.

(42:56):
I am.
It was such a bad call thatthose referees in that game, I
would say, were pretty close tobeing terrible Like they were
terrible, I would say for themost part.
I think so many missed calls,so many bad calls is Taylor
Wilson influencing games?

Speaker 2 (43:09):
That's all I want to know.
Taylor Swift, taylor SwiftSorry, I'm looking at Zach
Wilson.
Zach Wilson had 21 fantasypoints, sayla said, if he keeps
playing like that.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
we're going to win games, Taylor Wilson.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
You feel I am so struggling.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
No.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
I'm not struggling.
I made one error.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
It's 1130 central time where I just came from.
It's like spare me, spare me.
I don't want to hear this.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Here's what I'm going to say.
No, I don't yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Seth, let's be a little bit.
Yeah, it is a cool shirt.
Go to TFF dudes, check it out.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
You know what, buddy?
It is a cool shirt.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
I will Thanks pal.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
The Taylor Swift thing, I don't think, although
Ryan Reynolds was there, whichthat's a win he is.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Who's that a win for?

Speaker 3 (44:02):
I think, just a little community.
He's a good guy.
Seems like I shouldn't say he'sa good guy.
I don't know him personally.
Seems like a good guy has a.
He's also a girl, dad, sethTrent.
I think you guys can respectthat.
He has, I think, three or fourgirls actually.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
So oh, he's in the proposal, did you?

Speaker 5 (44:18):
meet.
Did you mean to add, likeanother word after good, in
between good and guy?
Is that what you're looking for?

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Good looking guys.
That what you're looking forthere.

Speaker 5 (44:29):
I think that's where you originally were going to go.
Go with it.
I think that's what you'regoing to say, yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
No, I would say he's a good looking guy.
I'm more of a Gosling guy Ifwe're talking.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
No, Gosling was a total liability on the defensive
side of the ball.
You can't be a Gosling guy.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
I think I think I go Gosling over Reynolds if we're
talking Ryan's here.
No, anyhow, anyhow, let's moveon.
Yeah, let's get.
That was just a bad game.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Phil.
How good is this bucky shirt,though?
Don't you think this just likerepresents the pod so well?

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Yeah, there was multiple times, trent, when I
asked you to purchase me a shirtand or a hat, you were there
two weeks ago and got nothing.
You got a call off or somethingI was.
You were at the Auburn game.
A, collegiate I said I willVenmo.
I will Venmo you if you get mesomething, did not receive a
text about what you're going topurchase me and frankly, I'm a
little bit upset anddisappointed, and so should

(45:19):
these other hosts, your co-hostshere.
They should feel the exact sameway as I do.
Anyhow, let's move on this,this, let's go.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Here's my idea Take my phone and call someone who
cares.
Just help my phone up to thisweb jam.
Keep going.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
We're talking third grade burns.
Trent, you have been on firethis entire podcast, but
thankfully we're all above theage of 30, with the exception of
Seth, so we're just going tomove on.
Jordan, hey, I'm not 30.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Don't, don't, ask me to act 30 yet I'm not 30 yet.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
I've got a few months to go.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
You age like sour milk, just kidding.
All right, let's go to Allright.
All right, let's go to yourstart of the of the week here,
Jordan Breeze Hall.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
Yeah, definitely my worst one of the week.
He's only had eight points,half point PBR, six for 56 on
the ground, three targets, fourtargets, three catches, 13 yards
.
I'd be curious to snappercentage.
I need to look at that but Ithink I might have been a victim
of them getting down 17, 17,zero early too, and Zach Wilson

(46:32):
played the best he's played allyear, so that didn't help either
.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
You're a victim, all right.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
He had.
He had six attempts, onlyJordan.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
So he, I know.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
I need to go find.
Maybe you said that I didn'thear you, but when I look at
just going over to the jet sidehere, he did lead in terms of
the rushing stats.
He had six, dalvin Cook hadfive, so Michael Carter only had
one.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
Let's just want to see snaps.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Just get this over with, because this one hurts.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
No, no no, I'm saving that to the end.
I can't stand you, jordan.
Let's just skip over Mike Evans.
That's a weird one.
I mean I think you got.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
You ended up getting that one right, I'm just going
to give you the credit there.
Give the guy credit, man.
No, like he called it, like how, how?

Speaker 3 (47:21):
He got hurt, didn't he?
Didn't he get hurt I?

Speaker 5 (47:23):
was at a weird one, he got hurt.
He leaves.
He's left half the gamesagainst March on Lattimore cause
he's hurt.
He's wasn't hurt, he quit.
Do you see him walking to thelocker room?
He was fine.
The guy doesn't want to playagainst March on Lattimore.
It is what it is.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Hey, you know what?
Jordan put the team on yourback.
Jordan was spot on with thatsit.
I agree with you.
Anything else you want to?

Speaker 2 (47:48):
add there no, I, I Jordan's, jordan's going after
him, but yeah, I'm just Are youwatching a game?

Speaker 3 (47:55):
I can hear someone's background Like is there, is
there.
Can anyone else hear?

Speaker 4 (47:59):
it, no, it's mine.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Oh, okay, no, you're good Seth's over there watching
Furbies or something that weirdo.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
No, it's not me.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Seth, if you could stop watching Gilmore Girls in
the background of the pod, I'dreally appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
He's over there.
He's looking at Brian GoslingGood show.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
All right, seth, we're going to go with yours,
you're going to go with your sit, and then we're going to go
with Trent's winner to close usout.
Uh, seth, let's, let's hear alittle about yours.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
Joe Mixon.
Uh, was my sit.
Eight points, half point, PPR14 for 67, one pitch for nine
yards.
I think that's good enough fora sit, but also I might have
said that was decent enough fora start, so kind of in that gray
area.
But I mean that's not what youwant out of like your third,
like third round draft pick, youknow, not meeting the

(48:47):
projection.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
He under delivered.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
he under delivered just in terms of his bank it's
interesting to talk about,because they just I don't know
like that whole team like justdoes not seem good yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
The bangles are dumpster fire.
It's not good.
Burrows definitely hurt.
He should have taken off fourweeks, like what chase said.
He's just not mobile Like heshould be.
He's not getting the zip on theball.
How many points of bro have,like I don't even know.
Like, do you want to playburrow anymore?
Like, like, what are we doingwith burrow?
Like that, that's like costingyour fantasy season because

(49:25):
you're not going to not playburrow if he plays, or chase, or
chase.
Yeah, like, where is it?
I can even find him on the listhere.
He's so far down.
But burrow, has he had five fan?
I guess he points today, if Ipoint.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
What are T Higgins?
T Higgins going to be out for awhile.
He broke some ribs, coupleweeks, yeah.
So I mean I mean Chase is goingto be the guy now, him and
Tyler Boyd.
Tyler Boyd might be interestingto pick up because he was
getting quite a bit of usage.
So Tyler Boyd's available, grabhim yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Let me see his his roster percentage.
Tyler Boyd is 50% rostered, soyeah, that might not be too bad.
I think Chase is going to startgetting a lot of targets, but
yeah, this season's looking likea complete waste in Cincinnati
so far Like.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
And in Minnesota, I mean.
They're basically mere images,AFC and NFC, of like how much of
a dumpster fire it is.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah, but the thing is, is Minnesota?
You at least can play CurtCousins and get some fantasy
points, like you have Borough onyour team.
You'd rather have Curt Cousinsthis season rather than Joe
Borough, Like.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Curt's at least slinging it.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Like Borough's, a shell of himself.
I don't know.
I don't know what else?
No, you're right.
What to say about?

Speaker 3 (50:47):
that I normally don't like ending us on a bad note,
but this one is just so bad Ithink that we have to, and
you've been just kind ofchirping me this entire pod, so
I'm going to have you go withyour sit last, your Trent Nico
Collins, you want to talk aboutjust like how you're feeling at
the end of the day after he kindof went off on you.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
I feel like a dog, you know, and speaking of dogs,
underdog is my favorite place toplay best ball fantasy football
guys and you can do draftsevery single week and I actually
won our dude's draft this week.
I had Christian McCaffrey on myteam, I had Justin Herbert.
It was a lot of fun.
Go over to Underdog,interpromaco Dude's 100.
They will match up to $100.
You'll have a lot of fun.

(51:27):
Do it with some friends.
Maybe you have Joe Borough onyour team and you're sick of it.
Go do a draft this week.
Start completely over.
Start over every week.
So yeah, go to Underdog and wegot some best ball drafts.
Jordan talked about thoseearlier.
I think that's all we reallyare.
What did you say, phil?
What are you talking about?
I just was thinking about dogs.
Nico Collins, it was bad, itwas terrible.

(51:47):
It was a horrible pick.
I hope you didn't listen to me.
I look like a complete Nimrod,which you're probably used to,
but it changes, that's not agood question.
What was he on the?

Speaker 3 (51:58):
week.
Tell me what's different.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Like Tank Dell I thought would have a good game
here.
He's been playing really good.
What did Nico Collins finish?
Why'd he receive a three on theweek and half point PPR 36
points.
This one hurt the whole timeand it was just like the NFL
script writers, I guess youcould say.
Cj Stroud had a.
He threw a touchdown, ThenDamian Pierce was scored, there

(52:24):
was two, there was two penaltiesin a row.
They scored two plays in a rowand then finally Nico Collins
gets a touchdown.
He ended up getting a 40 plusyard touchdown later.
So two touchdowns.
The guy had a huge game.
Like Jordan was telling meearlier, we just can't quite get
these Texans receivers right.
But what I think is right is CJStroud is really good.

(52:47):
He's a sling in the ball.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Is it a Boomer bus situation with him?
Like what do you think?

Speaker 2 (52:51):
With Stroud or Nico?
No, collins Collins, I don'tknow with how good Stroud is
playing.
I don't know if I want to sitany of those guys, although
Damian Pierce did throw atouchdown pass to Dalton Schultz
.
Dalton Schultz has kind of beenthe guy who hasn't been playing
great exactly, but he didfinally get a touchdown today.
I'm trying to find DaltonSchultz, but he's been the one

(53:14):
guy that I thought would have abetter season, that hasn't.
He had 12 fantasy points today.
But CJ Stroud on the weekfinished, as at the time of this
, recording QB8 on the week.
So far he has three games in arow with 20 plus points.

(53:35):
He threw for 300 yards plus andtwo out of his last three games
he's would be rookie of theyear.
I would say maybe Puka'd berookie of the year if the season
ended right now and Stroud isstill only 50.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
It'd be.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Stroud.
Stroud is 54% rostered rightnow.
They play Atlanta this week and, yeah, I think Stroud needs to
be rostered If you have JoeBurrow I have Joe Burrow in a
league.
I'm tempted to drop him for CJStroud.
It's terrible.

Speaker 5 (54:08):
I was just thinking that Trent Like what.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
It's hard to do.
I don't know if I can getStroud yeah.
But yeah, he's 50%, 54% rosteredQB13 on the week he has the
Falcons, this week the Saints.
The following week he justkeeps producing.
They're on a two game burnerright now, so maybe just stick
with the hot hand.
Yeah, that was bad.

(54:34):
I hate that.
That's the one I had to closeit out with, hate that I had to
fall to an underdog promobecause I was so embarrassed.
Maybe that eased the blow alittle bit.
Should we get into some whohurt you?
Do we got anything else whohurt you?
Yeah, you want to do some ofthat.
Jordan, you want to start thisoff with who hurt you this week

(54:54):
and week for.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
You want the whole list, you want one person, you
want.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Yeah, just give us a couple or any kind of surprises,
or you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (55:06):
Like Tank Del really hurt.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (55:10):
Sleeper plays DFS.
The Devonte injury hurt me inDFS.
Keenan Allen hurt me in sleeperand DFS.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
He did not have a good game.

Speaker 5 (55:26):
It was just the whole .
Jamar Chase, joe Burrow theywere very hurtful in a lot of
different areas this week.
It was just.
It was a lot of hurtful thingsthat happened this week.
Not a good Sunday, but I wouldsay like Tank Del probably
really hurt Tank Del was a bigone.
Keenan Allen the Devonte injuryreally sucked.

(55:48):
So there's a few of them.
Yeah yeah, there was a lot thisweek.
A lot of very hurtful stuffthis week happened to me.
It was not a good Sunday.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Jonu Smith hurt me.
He led the Falcons in receivingyards, which is terrible.
At this point I think I'mhoping Taylor Heineke gets the
start soon, because it's notRitter he doesn't look good.
Drake London keeps finding theend zone.
At some point you have to go.
This guy needs more volume oraway get the ball.

(56:22):
I think Taylor Heineke couldmake this team a lot of fun.
I don't know why.
Who's really the only positivefrom the Falcons is Bijans
having a really good season.
I don't know what.
Al Gier he had seven carriestoday.
He's kind of getting phased outthere.
Kyle Pitts is a guy I would sayhurt me.

(56:44):
Mari Cooper I think he hurtsome guys out there today.
Maybe that's part of Watson notplaying, but Cooper's been very
consistent so far this season.
Those are just a couple of guysthat I would say were just
complete duds on the week.
Seth, you got any hate thingsyou don't like.
Did you play against ChristianMcCaffrey or Josh Allen?

(57:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
Yeah.
So there's actually like a.
This is kind of dumb becauseeveryone experiences this If
you're in a lot of leagues.
It's like I needed McCaffrey toscore over 20-something points,
but under a certain amount ofpoints, and he hit the way over.
So if he would have hit thecertain amount of points I could
have won in both leagues, butnow it's like I lost in another

(57:29):
one.
So yeah, I guess that one.
But the thing that actuallyhurt me today is my washing
machine.
So I know you guys heard thatstory, but if you ever have to
replace a part in a washingmachine and it's gonna say,
expect to take you four hours,just buy a new washing machine,
just do that.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
If it just takes an hour, just assume it's probably
gonna take you four hours.
Okay, let me just help you outa little with math.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
It said that the best review is like oh, it took me
three and a half hours and I hadthree other guys help me and I
was like well, it took me sixand I didn't even finish and I
just ended up buying a newwasher anyway.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
So I'm so sorry.
Well, now you know it was notfun.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
Yeah, so that's who.
That's actually what hurt metoday.
Yeah no that that's a sevendays here it's a work.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Yeah, some days you're the dog, some days you're
the hydrogen Seth.
That's all I can tell you, phil.
Any any hurt anything that hurttoday.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
No, I'd like I said the refs in the in the chiefs
chiefs jets games, that waspretty hurtful.
Yeah, I would say that that'sthat was overall pretty help,
pretty, pretty hurtful, likethat one's just.
Yeah, that was bad.
It's just I just yeah, I don'tknow.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
You said like this Taylor Swift impacting games and
maybe she is, who knows it'sjust bad so Thing about that,
like I, yeah, the people thattell you are like that, only
take you know three hours set.
They're saying people thatthink the Chargers head coach is
good, like that guy is acomplete Nim wit, I don't know.
Like the Chargers should havelost their last two games.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
You know Jordan was going off on the coach in the
group text earlier, but I don'tknow you guys seen the meme of
them talking about the theChargers coach and the Raiders
coach and it's literally twoclowns playing basketball.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
I did it but, that's really good, yeah, do we got any
divas of the week guys to closethis thing out?
Anything that's really you knowit's Phil would say grinding
your gears, just grinding thosegears, what, what do you think?
And, seth, you got anything?
You kind of talked about itwith that.

(59:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
I guess I would just say, like why would you make so?
I get it like a washer can becomplicated and like yeah, it's
a great invention, you know.
But it's like, can we likeactually make this possible
without having to like call likea Service guy to come out here
and do it?
And I think the service guywould have legit needed my help.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Well, and that's the thing too.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
Let's be honest, there's no one that would ask
you for help.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
But no, just no.
Well, that's the thing.
Is it super heavy, or what wasit?

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
No, it was just like whoever installed it, or like if
it came in a package alreadylike kind of built already like
the screw, the bottom alreadystripped.
So I was like trying to likeunscrew those Like the.
The spring to get the new likelike a rubber piece on there is

(01:00:43):
so tight that you like cannotPull it around, like you.
You the video literally saidlike get like clamps and clamp
it on while you try to pull itaround and I'm like I don't have
clamps this big I, it's I.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Did you get it?

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
done so hard.
No, I'm buying you one, no, hespent six hours then.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Then wave the white flag.
You should have in that hourtoo.
Yeah, why don't you just call?

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
someone Seth Call someone to help me?

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Yeah, just like an appliance repair person.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
There's no one on this pod capable and I are there
appliance repair people likewhere are those people?

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
It is.
It is definitely a thing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
So, anyways, it'll cost you like 150 bucks and
getting my money back for thatpiece, and then I'm gonna buy a
cheaper washer and then this oneis just easier to maintain and
keep clean.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
So for now, are you just in like the backyard with
like a barrel and some soap andwater mixing it up?

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
No, I'm just gonna go take it to my relatives house
and just use their washer forfree.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Not bad idea.
I didn't say you could use mywasher, but I Might.
Even the weakest quitters, justpeople who start things and
don't finish, it's like, hey,man, like you know.
So what if it's said an hour,it takes you four hours.
Like, just what are youteaching your kids when you quit
things?
You know, I'm saying, phil,like my kids are getting the age
where they like, maybe don'tlike something.
You know, maybe I'm beatingthem in the matching game and

(01:02:09):
it's like they want to quit.
Well, no, we don't quit.
That's not what we're about.
So, quitters, does anyone likedisagree with that or Are you?

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
are you leaning into Seth?
Is that weird?

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
No, but if the shoe fits wear it, but I would say
it's a little bit different.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Seth Seth failed.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
He didn't quit right, so he lost he lost.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Yeah, I definitely lost I did?

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
I definitely lost, I definitely lost to like the,
just the like my new, like justStupid labor that I was doing
for six hours like I just I lostto that.
And a baby about.
Like what you said, trin, aboutlike your kids watching you
quit.
Well, I wanted my kids watchlike to stop watching me be mad,

(01:02:51):
like I was mad at the end Sethis stop watching me be mad.
You know Seth's a great guy buthe's like my favorite person to
see mad like it's it is a goodtime.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Like did you kick any tailgate, hitches or anything
like?

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
No, but I cut my hand trying to like take a piece off
because it's like in the videoit's a.
This piece is sharp and I cutmy hand pretty bad and anyways.
And my daughter kept liketrying to get in there with me
and it's a tight space in mylike laundry room and I was like
telling me like you know tolike leave, you know like I need
to like work and like not hearquestions, and she's like be
kind, dad, and I was like yeah,I got.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
It's like.
It's like I can't believe I'mfixing a washing machine while
the toy store games on.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
That's part is.

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
I can just imagine Seth being like so frustrated
and then be like, hey, let mecheck my, let me check my phone
and see how my bets are going,and being just more mad because
they were just, that was just.
Oh yeah, sunday was just likeit was what I say was the worst
Sunday ever in my life becauseit definitely wasn't, but it was
definitely like it's like topfive.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
I got to woke up feeling terrible, I'm fixing a
washing machine, that's thisgarbage and and I ended up
spending six hours just to spendmore money just to go buy a new
one, yeah.
And then I realized, when I'mtrying to take out the hoses.
I don't have the right crescentwrench because if this one's
too small so I got to go findanother one now.
Yeah, it's better.
Yeah, it was one of those dayswhere like if you said it can't

(01:04:21):
get any worse.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
It instantly would have started rating.
Yeah, I hear you when it rainsit pours Jordan Phil.
You guys got any divas the week?
You know I got one.
It's not great but I'm gonna go.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
I you know you know me like I'm not a quitter, trent
, I thank you.
You know I'm not a quitter, butthey're not always great but
this is what I'm gonna say.
So, as you guys know, I was justin Texas a couple weeks ago and
I'm looking for this text herebecause I was texting my brother
.
I was in, I was in Texas acouple weeks ago.
So I'm just gonna get to it.
The diva my diva is A coupleweeks ago, so I'm just gonna get
to it the diva, my diva of theweek and I love we used to have

(01:04:54):
a segment on this show calledwhat you're smoking.
I love good barbecue.
I love a good steak.
My diva of the week is thestate of California in our, in
our, darn steak prices.
Okay, so I, I do you guys.
Have you guys seen the pricesof steaks recently?

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
They're expensive.
But I think this is a nationalissue, not a state issue is
usually, you know, we have stateissues here.
I think this is national.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
No, that's entirely incorrect.
Okay, so my brother-in-lawbought.
He bought two and a quarterpounds of a ribeye.
Okay, two and a quarter poundsof a ribeye, what kind of two
ribeyes?

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
It was two, two ribeyes.
Was it choice?
Was it prime?
Like you got it.
You got to know all the factorsin here.
Yes, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
I believe they were both.
They were both choice.
I believe they were both choice.
Okay, they're both choice, okay, and even the price difference
is a big deal here.
Okay, so two and a quarterpounds.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
You have to factor in cost of living also.
You know we have a higherminimum wage here than texas.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
Now you're.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
now you're trying to change it around a little bit,
just but that, that, that's justcommon, that's just common
sense, that's common sense too.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Which I can still say that it's my diva.
Two and a quarter pounds at $26and 93 cents.
Okay, I was there a coupleweeks ago, bought two ribeyes
nice ribeyes for 13 bucks, okay,and I don't know what those
prices.
I was at our local grocerystore, okay, and it's a little
bit more pricey.
It's definitely more pricey 2.2and basically three pounds, 61

(01:06:24):
dollars.
Yeah, not even a full poundmore of meat, and it's about 40
dollars more expensive.
Is that not insane?

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
It is insane, but that's one of the reasons I
don't shop for meat there too.
What's the difference at Costco?
Is it Costco?
Is it drastically cheaper?
Drastically cheaper, like?
I can get one rack of ribs for30 bucks at our local grocery
store, or I can get two racks ofribs for 38 dollars at Costco.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
So can you also get mad at me that like that price
is unreasonable, like that'sjust simply unreasonable, isn't
it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Yes, I would say it's unreasonable 62 bucks for three
ribeyes.
Where's it?
Where they prime?
Phil, I have a question choice.
Okay, what's your question,jordan?

Speaker 5 (01:07:09):
I Thought you're you're a rancher.
I thought you have your ownbeat, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
No, no, you should be loving this you're a rancher.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Good point, good point here, jordan, you may have
caught me in another lie Justkidding.
So I was.
I was, uh, this is so mybrother-in-law.
My brother-in-law takes a photoof this ribeye and he's like
hey, guess how much I got thesetwo ribeyes for it feels I'll
just take the butcher's word forit Crazy price.
That's insane.
Well, I happen to be at agrocery store that's located in

(01:07:39):
California, just for transpurposes, since he thinks beef
prices are the exact samenationwide, which is just
outrageous to me to ever thinksomething like that.
Anyhow, I go to the, I go toour local grocery store, I pick
it up and I take a photo of it.
All that said, yes, jordan, Iam of.
I am a cattle rancher.
I cooked my.
I cooked some t-bones Uh,believe it or not, last week,

(01:07:59):
some t-bones and filets.
They tasted delicious, uh, butI just think beef prices are are
insane right now, especially ifyou want to get, you know, a
lot of steak.
I really like steak, that's.
That's the point, it's tooexpensive.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
You just need to buy your own cow and just butcher it
, and then you got cheaper meatright there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Well, I mean, that's actually what I do.
But yes, that is uh, that's.
I agree with you there, greatidea Seth.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
There you go, Jordan, you got anything here?

Speaker 5 (01:08:25):
No, no divas, Trent.
But I just want to say you know, my picks on the social medias
have not been great lately, on alosing streak, and I was
thinking about quitting.
I'm not gonna lie, but, trent,you told me quitters are divas.
I'm not quitting.
We're bouncing back, we'regetting the money back.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Alrighty, let's go.
Dark night rises.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
That's good, all right.
Well, we'll see you guystomorrow for our waiver show.
We'll see you on Thursday withour week five preview and, as
always, take care.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
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