Week 2 Recap, News Notes + Biggest NFL Surprises

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Speaker 1 (00:31):
What is up my dudes?
This is Trent with the FantasyFootball Dudes podcast.
I am joined by Phil, seth andJordan.
We are sitting a littledifferent here and it kind of
threw me off how to do the names, but it's okay.
We're at a little round table,kind of like some old nights or
something.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Trent likes it when his thigh rubs with fills.
They like that touch.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
That is.
I hope that's not what he wastelling you before I got here.

Speaker 5 (00:55):
You just let Trent speech us again for the second
time in two weeks.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
I don't know what to say.
That is not true, though, isthe only thing I will say.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
I wouldn't be shocked if it was.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well, the camera can't prove otherwise.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Wouldn't be surprised .
You guys are holding the handsdown there, yeah, yeah, so if
you were to.
Can we get a hand check?
Yeah, hand check right there.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
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We are not sweaty.
It is nice and cool in here.
It was great Trent's wearingjeans.
I'm wearing jeans right now.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Oh, it's PSL season, baby.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
PSL pumpkin spice latte.
If you go in the evening Ithink it's Bogo Buy one, get one
free fill.
Is that true?

Speaker 4 (01:32):
I am a Starbucks guy.
I should know this.
I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
Way too many acronyms being used in two sentences.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
PSL.
We've said.
I just said PSL pumpkin spicelatte.
And Trent said Bogo.
I'm.
You're going to be upset at mefor saying this, and that's okay
, but I'm not going to say that,never mind.
I'm just saying, like you got,if you're looking to take a nice
lady on a date, like pumpkinspice is like a winner.
I would say for the most part,would you agree with that,

(02:00):
unless they really don't like it, but for the most part, I would
say most people like it.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I think it's a good gamble because it's seasonal.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
It's seasonal, not there all the time.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, it seems like you're adventurous yes.
Yes.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
And maybe you buy like a nice fall mug so they can
remember you.
Like every time they're gettinga warm cup of Joe, they're like
oh man, this reminds me ofJordan, you know.
Like that's, I'm just trying tothink of ideas here.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Maybe you should do that for your wife's.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
What I'm actually doing.
They haven't rolled out theirfall cups yet, Jordan, so maybe
wait a couple of weeks beforeyou try that strategy.
I am yeah, I'm not going to sayit.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
I'm just like who actually drinks out of mugs
anymore, like it's all liketravel mugs or like Yeti sort of
style mugs Like no one drinksout of like traditional mugs
anymore.
Well, when?

Speaker 4 (02:49):
you wake up early in the morning.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
And that's maybe you work from home and sometimes you
have a nice cup of coffee tosit down and or maybe, if you
have, like you work in an officeand like they have, like a
coffee machine, that's, that'show you say it.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
I think a lot more people than you think still do
that.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
But they're all over you to do it.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
They're all over the age of 40 probably, but they
still do it yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
And maybe more people are generation or more like in
the travel style.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Well, because a lot of people aren't getting up and
enjoying their coffee before,like they don't get up at 6am
and sit down and like kind ofrelax for 30 minutes when they
get up for sure Getting theirCOJ cup of joe.
Okay, that's a good one.
That's a variation over therefor you.
Don't wink at me ever again.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
It's this new setup.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Sweaty hands.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
It's got everyone.
It's got everyone excitedAnyhow.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
So we are doing our week two recap.
We have some news and notes.
Just where we were right, wherewe were wrong, had a little bit
of a rough week in the sitscategory.
I feel like I was a little boldon those.
Anyways, but before we get intoour recap of our, you want to
do starts and sits right now.
Do we want to jump right intothat or do you want to do a
little bit more?
Week two notes Jordan, like wecan, just jump into our.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
What are our starts and sits?
We're like, yeah, like Seth is.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I'd say Seth is 0 and 2.
On the night he said that meand Phil were rubbing thighs,
which was a lie.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
And he said no one uses coffee.
I can't tell Trent if it's alie or not.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
He said it was coffee mug.
So if Seth is 0 and 2 for thenight, chargers are 0 and 2.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Let me say this If your guys' shoulders are almost
touching, I guarantee your legsare touching.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah, but the problem is I have broad shoulders, same
and Trent has broad.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
And you have skinny legs.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
I dialed you up on that one Well if you look at the
, aerial view, you can tell ourshoulders are not touching.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
But chargers are, I said almost.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Chargers are 0 and 2.
0 and 2.
That's true.
They had an 11-0 lead at onepoint in today's game they lose
to the Titans.
They were 2 for 14 on thirddown.
That's terrible.
Justin Herbert deserves a lotbetter.
Well, or he needs to be better.
I think they need to fire theircoach, and I think that's

(04:55):
what's going.
I was surprised he didn't getfired last year.
He's a stats guy.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
He's not a Dan Campbell guy.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
You know what I'm saying?
They need a Dan Campbell guy.
He's not a stats guy, though heis, but he isn't he claimed to
be a stats guy.
Yeah, I know, but then he doesreally dumb stuff that's not
analytically based.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Name one thing, Huh, name one thing he's saying.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
No, when he'll go forward in times.
That doesn't make sense.
He does things analytically andthen sometimes he wants to be
Dan Campbell and then goesagainst the analytics.
So you can't be both.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yeah, I'm just saying he claimed to be an analytics
guy.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
No, I know he does, but then he does stuff that the
analytics say not to do.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
I will say they were missing Echler.
That's a big deal, yeah, butlose to OT in the titans.
First the titans.
I kind of think this is likethe most puzzling team in the
NFL.
It's not really making sense tome.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
The Charter's defense is garbage.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah, and just how the whole setup of they're made
to be ran on.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Their defense is not good.
It should be better though.
No, you're right, it should be.
Their defense is not goodthough.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
Yeah, who did that?
That's one game I did not payattention to much today.
I just wasn't on my screen much, but I know the passing game
was good.
Herbert wasn't bad, trent.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Keenan Allen had a good game.
No, he wasn't.
Henry and Mike.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Williams man.
What Mike Williams, that guy itwas a weird game.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Henry was a really weird game.
Henry was 25.
Okay, yeah, 79.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
So one of the titan's scores was off of Traylon Burke
, 70 yarder.
They had one.
They had a couple of big longpass plays and that's it.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
Keenan Allen had two TDs.
As you know, I mean Derek.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Henry wasn't great.
I played Tyjay Spears in thedynasty league.
He got me like seven points.
That's pretty solid for abackup running back.
You didn't think it was goingto do anything.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
Henry, four targets is interesting.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, just a weird, weird game.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
The titans could be 2-0 right now.
Who'd they lose to last week?
Didn't they lose to the Saints?
Wasn't it a close game?

Speaker 1 (06:56):
against the Saints.
Yeah, they had a tough gamewith the Saints, yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
I will say, as titans pass, stevens is not good, we
need to be targeting them.
That's two games in a row thatgive them up over 300 yards
passing.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, like nothing changed in the off season.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Who did the titans play next?

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Browns.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
The Browns.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, the thing is, the Browns like to run the ball,
man.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
I'm just going to say I might be under Sean Watson
next week.
We'll see how that goes, andwe'll see how he does on the
night football too.
His numbers are low.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
His over under passing yards for tomorrow's
game is like 195.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
I kind of hoped he's kind of sucks tomorrow and then
we might get him in like anunder owned bounce back spot, we
might get him at like a 175passing and then he'd be like
hit.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Potentially no Amari Cooper.
Monday night football.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
That's a big deal actually.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
I'm saying no lines for him.
No, amari.
Cooper, I don't think he'sgoing to play?
I would assume not.
I think the Browns are justgoing to run the ball 10
tomorrow anyways.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
So to be sure we can go with these starting sits or
what, yeah, we can do that.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I just was kind of going through some.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
You want me to, I have them here.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
I have, at least I think I have them here.
Yeah, we can?

Speaker 4 (07:57):
I think probably.
Seth, do you want to own theEagles running backs?
Do you want to own that alittle bit?

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, I just I'll just start with that game
because I have a I both my sitsare in that game.
So I my first sit was theEagles running backs and I mean
I guess I wanted to stay awayfrom it.
My reasoning behind it I wasdead wrong, but I meet.
My immediate reason behind itwas it's going to be a high
scoring game.
They're going to be throwingthe ball a ton, but the reason
the Eagles scored a lot wasbecause the run game was really

(08:24):
good.
Deandre Swift 28 attempts for175 and a touchdown.
I mean he put up 25 fantasypoints.
So that's just a bad sit for me.
The Eagles run game is good.
My other sit was Madison Ithink I just hit the nail on the
head right here.
Like he paid 76% of snaps, had3.4 points of fumble, I mean he

(08:44):
was eight for 28 yards, Like.

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(09:07):
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Speaker 3 (09:15):
It's a video magic.
Yeah, we're hitting media magic.
We weren't hitting pics, and assoon as Jordan started posting
videos, we're hitting the pics.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
My grandpa told me once anything you publish
automatically corrects itself.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
There you go, so we're publishing every pick from
now on, as long as they'restill good.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Do you not agree with that, phil?
Like you can't just publishstuff about yourself.
That's bad.
Like if I wrote bad thingsabout you all the time, that's
what I was going to say.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
Like I'm sure you probably sent some tweets out
that you'd probably would wantto take down off the internet.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
But you should get better, right, like you're going
to keep making bad pics, youshould be getting better, sure.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
Here you are at 32.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
I'm just going to say hear me out.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Hear me out about the going on 32.
Hear me out on the number one.
It's hard to root for a guywho's number zero.
I still think that's thestupidest thing, I agree, I
agree.
I think that is the stupidestthing.
So he's number zero.
It makes me mad.
Number two is what were theVikings thinking Like?
Why did they not get moreaggressive for a running back in
the off season?
They got rid of Dalvin Cook.
Why did they try and go after?

Speaker 5 (10:19):
someone a little bit more, did they even?

Speaker 4 (10:20):
draft anybody.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
I don't think, ty Chandler.
I don't know if I can, it's.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Ty Chandler.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
They drafted I'm going to see how much he played.
He played a decent likeprobably 30% snap.
He says 12% or 12 snaps 12%Interesting.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
I didn't see much of him.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
He played 17 week one and I just like because, they
liked Madison.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
They dropped the chain there last year.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
I mean he had a TD last year, last last week, he
had a TD last week, 73% of snapslast week.
So to Seth's point.
But I just like man, I don'tknow, I don't.
It's tough, it's not.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
The defense is good, but also predictably.
This is a predictably bad spotfor Madison.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
I would agree I was having a tough D.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
That's why I picked Randy, that's why I picked the
start.
I mean, people have him astheir RB two, so so one quick
thought on the Eagles runningback situation.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
We have week one gain well played, almost had the
most usage by far.
I think 70% snaps all thecarries.
Swift did nothing, penny wasinactive.
Week two it flips around.
Where get gain was inactive,john Jay Swift gets all the work
.
Penny barely plays.

(11:32):
The only reason he played isbecause of Boston Scott.
So my question is we've seentwo weeks in a row where the
Eagles want to basically use oneguy, which is a kind of a
change in philosophy from themcompared to last year, and I
don't know if that's a switch inOCs.
I don't know exactly what it is, but what happens going forward
when?
What's week three gonna look?
What's week three gonna looklike?

(11:52):
Is it go back to that samething and where it's like?
But do we know if it's swift orgain?
Well, in that role.
Yeah and is that what sirianiwas talking about when he made
those comments?
Like, does he not?
Is it gonna be a week-to-weekbasis of who's in that feature
running back role, or are theygonna do something more when
it's more of 50-50 split?

Speaker 4 (12:11):
To cousin film like another, do what like not
knowing which running backyou're gonna be going up against
is kind of a big deal.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Also, I think it could be about keeping guys
fresh.
There was a green.
I agree there was people whowere like kind of like
hypothesizing that this wasplanned all along from the
Eagles for on a short week, on a, on two games in four to five
days, to our game, I would playone and and swift barely play
and then gain away, would sitthe next game and swift to play
like I don't know how much Ibelieve that but like Just I

(12:41):
just don't know like what, andmaybe that's a siriani met is
like a week-to-week.
They may just alternate who thefeature back is but if swift
continues to play that, thatgood.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
I don't think they can.
Even weeks is a start.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Who says that gain well, wouldn't done something
similar?
Swift in that exact same spot?

Speaker 3 (12:57):
possible game will has a smash week to yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
I mean, I mean, I mean I believe those?

Speaker 3 (13:02):
swift looked amazing, you look great.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
Yeah, and I've argued that game Well has looked
really good, yeah, in past timestoo so, and he played a lot.
His feature role game wasagainst a lot tougher defense.
Well, yeah, maybe not cuz.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
I got burned.
I know you're not gonna likethis, but Rashad penny didn't
look terrible.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
Yes he did.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, he carries for what?

Speaker 1 (13:25):
nine yards, that's just okay.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
He got something else .
He looked horrible.
I think he had a bad holdingtrend.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
You were not watching the game, cuz I was watching.
You not watch the game.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Jordan's judging me for not watching a game in
public.
If I want to watch the game,I'll stay home.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
I'll talk about that a little bit more.
I think people need to hearabout this.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Jordan calls me out again.
I'm at my cousin's volleyballgame.
Jordan's like Trent's not a man.
He's not watching the game onhis phone.
It's like, yeah, because I havea kid that I'm watching, and
I'm watching volleyball, which Iwish.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
I could watch the game.
I could do both.
I can watch the.
I can watch the game and watch,but you keep and watch a
two-year-old.
No, that's not.
You made that choice, not me,trent.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
You made the choice.
No, it's fine.
I was sitting on my couchwatching the game is great.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Same here.
Actually, I was watching myphone.
I was at my daughter'sgymnastics class Watching
gymnastics and then alsowatching on my phone.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, but you have someone else watching your kids
while you're at gymnastics.
You just have to be there.
I just have to be present.
When there's a two-year-old,you have to like make sure
they're not doing skittles offthe ground.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
You could have easily had the phone propped up
against your right there andjust been watching the game.
Check the go.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Oh, just check the game I was following on ESPN.
But I'm not like.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
I socialize with people when I go out and you're
falling asleep, or just a, justa you're falling.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, I was falling asleep, yeah but go ahead
continue.
You socialize, you talk,socialize.
Yeah, it's a good time.
Do you have any nachos?
No nachos.
I don't like to have nachosafter seven o'clock.
Oh, was the game that late.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
It starts at 6 30 Okay, so if you're a nacho guy,
you got to get there right atyeah, I think so yeah.
I think, so I Kind of agreewith you.

Speaker 5 (14:59):
Okay, let's get coming it back, yeah let's go so
we so set.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
You talked about both your sits in that game.
Like you said, madison was agood one.
I think we can probably.
Jordan, do you want to talkabout puka?

Speaker 5 (15:11):
Well, let me.
You want my sit first?
No, no, I'm bouncing around, ifyou want to do that's fine.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
If you want to host the show and you want me out
here, that is a okay.
I'm just trying to give peoplewhat they want.
And I'm gonna be honest, you,you got to get them within the
first couple minutes, or theyare going to go a trance nacho
talk like I almost walked out,like just give me, like, if I'm
gonna direct this, you askedabout the nachos.
Yeah, and his answer was superboring, like dude.

(15:36):
Have a better answer.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
Okay, um uh.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, puka, don't raise your hand at me, seth.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
Oh you you right now this yeah, I think I nailed this
start make my day.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Okay, just talk about puka.
Here we go.
I'm trying to one yeah she'lls.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
He had 20 targets, 15 catches, 147 yards.
He's just a machine like he's atarget machine 20 record right
20 targets is insane.
It's 35 targets through twogames.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Yeah, he did he did break the record, for what it's
worth.
Yeah, 147 rookie, rookie, widereceiver, receiving me a record
for first two games playingRight.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
Yeah, Uh, yeah yeah, so I'm really happy with the
start.
I think he's worth.
Maybe gonna be worth all thefab you.
I do think these numbers comedown a little bit when Cup comes
back and I think I wouldimagine teams start to try to
game plan for him a little bityeah but we'll see with Cup
there will be tough.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
If both those guys are there, right, cup comes back
week six, five, potentiallyweek five and honestly like how
much longer can Stafford playlike this?

Speaker 5 (16:46):
for eventually, stafford, if he Breaks down or
what there you know there's, butlike he's great right now, I
think you gotta keep riding thewave, yeah tutu at well.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
He had 11 fantasy points, nine targets, seven
receptions.
He doesn't look bad.
32% roster just.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
The Rams are.
The game script was good forthem.
Yeah, honestly, at Cincinnatinext week, yeah, might be kind
of similar game script.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, well, tutu has back-to-back double digit points
too and he's a lot lowerrostered.
Yeah, I had puka on a taxisquad in the dynasty league.
I had to.
I had to play him this week.
It was really nice upset.
You know last year's championit's, but puka I think is gonna
be.
I think he's the real deal.
Yeah, I lost some fab on himthis week by three, $3 and that

(17:32):
was kind of a bummer that Ididn't bid up a little higher.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
This is embarrassing for me not to know, but was
acres a healthy scratch?

Speaker 5 (17:38):
Yeah, they use on the trade to get a trade on.
Okay, yeah, try to trade them.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah, I didn't, I, I Did not, I, I just thought it
popped like a.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
The report came like 945 this morning, so like 15
minutes for the games locked andhe tweeted like I don't know.
So Jake laser laser reported it.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Sorry.
He tweeted, though also like Idon't know, I'm asking the same
questions, you guys.
Oh yeah like something likethat to some extent, All right.
Any any other talk there I wasgonna kick over to.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Throw it over.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
I was gonna throw it over, hand it off.
Whatever you'd like to say,trent, you had Garrett Wilson as
a as a sit, and I think Iunderstood where your head was
at.
I think I understood where yourhead was at once.
For once, I kind of understoodand I was.
You know, you proved us wrong alot of us, but go ahead, he's
so what did he have?

Speaker 1 (18:24):
I was watching I have .

Speaker 4 (18:26):
This is, this is in our dyno league.
He ended up being with 16points.
He was projected at 12.
So I would say you would kindof have to fall.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
No, I miss this, but he had two receptions and he had
one, one TD.
One TD that was a.
He had eight targets, 83 yardsand one TD.
I know I think it was twotargets.
I think he had like a 68 yardtouchdown man-to-man coverage.
He just made a nice play.
I was.
I said it was a sit.
I said you probably couldn'tsit him for where.
You drafted him on Twitter eventoday I was like I was saying

(18:56):
like you probably have to playhim.
This was kind of more of a pumpthe brakes play.
But yeah, I missed it.
This was not a good.
My sits were not good this week.
You know that, uh, to catches83 yards and that's back-to-back
games with touchdowns, bigtouchdowns for the problem with
the air.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Wilson Trent, he's just too good to sit.
Yeah, he's too talented like hejust can make.
He can make plays.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah and he uh Was.
He has another tough matchupnext week too, versus a Patriots
.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
I don't know, that's tough I.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Zach Wilson is getting better.
I think too.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
No, he's not thinking so, trent.
He threw like four picks today.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
That's an improvement .

Speaker 1 (19:35):
I think he looks better than last time.
I thought yeah, but thatCowboys defense is really good,
jordan, you not think it'sreally?

Speaker 5 (19:42):
good, yes, but like I don't know how exactly, zach
was better picks today 12 for 27, I think he's horrible Trent
he's.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
He had five, five rushing attempts today for 36
yards, like the first half hewas doing.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
The guy would throw him for a hundred yards, wasn't
for the Garrett Wilson bomb.
Yeah, you're right, he's bad.
Don't like you not gettingbetter?

Speaker 1 (20:05):
I think he's getting better from last year.
You don't think so.
He led the Jetson rushing.
Like am I get say am I sayingstardom?
No, I absolutely do not,stardom I.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
Just don't know why he's getting better, but Is for
what it's worth.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
His three picks were on their final three drives, so
he was kind of he was, was outof there making rest he was
taking rest at the very end youwant to have a back your comment
.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
But no, it's still three picks, though, yeah it's
like not fancy relevant, likeyou're definitely not playing
here, or is?

Speaker 5 (20:37):
that game.
That was like semi-close, soit's not act like it was garbage
time.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Was it close, though, but like when you're like 30 to
10, but like when you're atthat point.
I think you got through it wasgonna let it ride at some point,
though, when you're when thefinal three drives, when I mean
it wasn't that score, but theywere down by like three sessions
, yeah, probably.
The good thing with it, though,is is he's not afraid to throw
it to Garrett Wilson.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
He did targets yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
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What is that?
Is that a new watch?
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Speaker 3 (21:53):
The reason the hair on his wrist is like not there
is because the watch rubs rightthere.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
I didn't even notice about the hair.
Yeah, I was just trying toteach right up.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
I saw him grabbing that thing, and I was just
trying to give him a segue.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Johnny, you guys are touching thighs over there.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
All right, moving on here, dj, more I'm gonna go over
with you, jordan, do you?
You fully prepped and ready togo?
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (22:18):
So DJ, more like kind of how it.
What happened is kind of what.
Like what I thought was gonnahappen is kind of what happened.
Man, he like three catches onthe first drive, like 60 yards,
and then I think, like thefourth quarter had the three
catches for like 40 more yards.
So he ended up with six catches, 104 yards, 15 points.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
I'd say it's a solid he had a really big, almost had
a really big play where he justfell out of bounds like, yeah,
total long, 17, so 17 and athird yards per catch.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Like he had some pretty longer catches, huh.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
So I think it was a good match.
The bucks pasty is not good andso I think that's a bucks, I
think it's a passing defense.
We want to target kind of allthroughout the year, so it just
some fields can case he plays.
Sorry, I mean I think the bearsbears are also defense is also
somewhere where we're gonna wantto target.
Um, I think we're gonna havethem a home smash week next week

(23:13):
.
What?

Speaker 1 (23:14):
about?
Like what about Justin Fields?
Like, is this just I?
I follow some bears Instagrampages.
I don't ask me why.
Like there's just a guy Ifollow bear down, yeah, bear
down and bear grills.
He's like been a huge JustinFields guy.
I actually not because of him.
I'm not like getting my playsfrom stuff like that.
I just follow a couple NFL it'son our Instagram.

(23:34):
But he came out today and he'slike I think I'm done with
Justin Fields, like I'm donewatching him.
I said that last year and hehasn't have they lost seven
games in a row Like he had areally good, not good there, no,
and it's like it was allgarbage time last year he had.
I think you got to write it outwith him.
But what's his?
What's his stats on the season?

Speaker 5 (23:55):
like it is there, he has 13 fancy points, 13 fans
fancy points back to back weekslike he.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Just I Thought he was gonna turn the corner this year
and what I mean?

Speaker 4 (24:06):
he has some.
He has some decent.
He has some decent piecesaround him.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, he ran for three yards today.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
Their defense is so bad though they're gonna be down
in every single game, which isnot.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
That could be.
That could be good for fantasy,though.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
Yeah, I mean we'll see.
I'm curious to be.
Really bad yeah do you turn?

Speaker 4 (24:26):
are you just?
Yeah, it could be a lot ofpicks a trainer.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
He's not rushing as much a 57 yards rushing last
week.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Yeah, if you're a baker guy, are you just in hog
heaven right now?
I am minus the pleasantlysurprised.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
I'm pleasantly surprised about Baker.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
I also played too horrible.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Horrible past defenses.
He's winning.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
You know who's look good is my Kevin's Mike Evans.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, I gave him looks really I played Tyree kill
last week in fancy football.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
I played my.
It's gonna be a rough week nextweek against the Eagles.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
That will be the test right there.
I think he fails that test.
I mean the Eagles.
Past evens is exploitable,though.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, yeah.
And but Mike Evans, he 171yards today, one TD like Bakers
throwing him the ball Nextweek's a good test.
They might be kind of asurprise team for the NFC South.
Maybe they can make that runright there.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
I don't think you would even be a surprise, like I
think you might see them beingcompetitors in the NFC South.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Baker has 21,.
Had 21 fantasy points this week.
I believe he's quarterback 14on the season so far.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
It's gonna be them in the in the Saints right.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
I would think it'd be them in the Saints.
So he plays the Eagles thisweek, then the Bucks play at New
Orleans, and it's always fun towatch Mike Evans and Latimore's
.
Latimore's still there, I think.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
So have they fought like three of the last three
seasons, yeah, so that'll be,that'll be great.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Then you throw Baker into that fight scenario.
It could be a lot of fun onthat Saints and Bucks game.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, anyhow, let's move on.
Let's keep this show movingalong here, just for the sake of
the fans.
I'm going.
You've already given both ofyour both of your sets.
Seth, you had Eagles runningbacks and Alexander Madison.
You want to talk about Juju orChristian Kirk?

Speaker 3 (26:18):
first, I'll start with my good start.
I'll start with Kirk.
So I know, last pod I said Kirkwas gonna have either a similar
game as Ridley or a better game.
He actually ended up having alot better game than Ridley.
I think Ridley had like 40yards or something I was
something around there and Kirkwent 11 receptions on 14 targets

(26:38):
, 110 yards.
So I mean he was just thefeature receiver.
I think this game didn't playinto what everyone thought it
was gonna be, but I think Kirkwas a smash.
Like I thought I said, the slotreceiver in this game has done
well against the Chiefs and theslot receiver did good against
the Chiefs this week.
So just a good play.

(26:59):
Calvin Ridley just absolutelydestroyed my fancy teams and a
lot of my parlays, so thatwasn't fun.
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Trevor Lawrence had a roughgame.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
That's what I was gonna say.
We just need to get like alittle temp.
You know, I Jordan went darkfor a couple hours and so he's
wearing Chiefs red because ofthe Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
That is not true.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Can we just get like a little temp?
I mean, what's?
How are you feeling?
Are the Jaguars?

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Just in general, like not football related.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
Fine, no football related.
What'd you think about today'sgame?
Oh, we had some.
We had a listening listener,friend of the pod, relative to
some of you guys he's.
He checked in on your wellbeingand I was part of that group
chat, you know and so Jaguarshould have won the game.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
They blew multiple opportunities in the red zone.
So I don't know, they just kindof they forced turnovers in the
first half and then convert.
So yeah, I mean is what it is.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
That right tackle.
He's the most penalized playeror had more penalties today than
any player had in NFL history.
Five penalties in the game oh,Joe Wontailer.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
They're saying they think just some stuff.
I've seen they're saying thatmaybe a problem.
I don't know, but I think hehad two off sides and maybe two
holdings and something else orsomething Like he just had a but
it's kind of weird.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
He's also.
He's playing his team, His oldteam and then maybe Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
It's Josh Allen, right.
Maybe he kind of knew hisweaknesses and exploited it, and
yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
And they have a the next couple of weeks.
Well, the next two weeks willbe kind of light right.
They got the Texans and thenthe Falcons.
I mean the Falcons game couldbe a good one, but then they got
bills.
So you're probably looking athopefully going two and O in the
next couple of weeks here.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
Yeah, I mean Jaguar really could have won this game.
They had even at the end of thegame they had a real close to
two touchdowns.
Zay Jones didn't get his feetin.
I really didn't get his feet in.
Trevor Lawrence missed a wideopen, zay Jones in the end zone,
so yeah that's what it was, youknow.
I know all the players andcoaches were pretty upset about

(29:34):
the game, so yeah, we'll see himbounce back next week.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Jordan, I'm going to come back to you here.
You're already kind of chattinghere you want to talk about.
You know, I just keep kickinghim always down, phil, how about
that?
I can skip, we can come back tothis one.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
Let's talk about it.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
I'm disappointed because I followed your advice
just for what it's worth and Ijust got annihilated because of
it.
But I'm going to let you,annihilated by my feelings more
than anything else.

Speaker 5 (29:58):
Honestly, like it was looking good for a while, Like
even the first, the firsttouchdown wasn't great.
It was really annoying becauseWaddle almost broke a foot to
yard touchdown.
He tripped over his own feetand then most of it comes in and
scores his touchdown.
But really even that.
Then at half he was like 30yards in a touchdown or whatever

(30:19):
35 in a touchdown and then hejust broke off that 40 out run
for a touchdown.
It was downhill from there.
I was sitting okay and showdowntoo and I just I had zero most
120, 121 yards, 18 attempts, twoTDs.
Like it didn't also.
It also hurt that Ahmed gothurt in the middle of that game.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Salvin.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
Yeah.
He was getting a lot of work inthe first half too.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
He played at UDub.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
So yeah, I don't know , it's just a tough.
Oh, I felt really good.
I felt really good about thatsit too.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
I did not know Moser is 31.
He's an older running backs inthe league.
Yeah, still blazing fast.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
The game went the opposite of how I thought it was
going to go.
I thought they would kind ofstop the run and to it have to
throw, and didn't really workout like that.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
Yeah, all right, let's.
I'm going to go, trent.
I think we're going to go with.
Let's go with.
Let's go with.
I'm going to go with anotherone of your sits, because then
we're going to go with anotherof your starts.
Let's go with.
Let's go with Terry McLaren.
Before we start, can we, can Isay did you guys see that?
Hit on Logan Thomas.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
I did not see it.
I heard it was the guy gotejected.
Right, he got ejected.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
I think they he may be facing disciplinary action
because he had another hit.
He got fine bad last week, Lastweek, but to hit this week
didn't look terrible, yeah, butI think it was pretty dirty.
It just went shoulder to head Ithink.
Anyhow, I just was like man.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
I feel like that's just kind of pretty nasty hit
man, but I feel like it was, andthey got in a fight after it.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, the fight, I did see the full.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
It's a nasty hit but it doesn't go, doesn't it look
shoulder, then head, oh it'sdefinitely shelled.
Let me see, let me see, can youpop that over here?
Cream Jackson, that's justfootball man.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
It's helmet to helmet , but it's kind of football.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
I like watching.
Yeah, if you're getting paidmillions of dollars to play for
a yearly basis, like hey, I mean, I don't know man like.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
I miss the old early Like.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
here's the issue, Phil, is that they know that's a
flag.
They know that possible.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Like I get what you're saying, like he's just
shouldn't like.
This is the rules we have toplay by now you don't do it.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yeah, I agree.
I agree with that.
He just got fined last week.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Yeah, no, you got it.
You got to be smarter.
I agree with that.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
And the hit last week was bad too.
On Jacobi Myers.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, I didn't see that one.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
But yeah, this is, I mean it probably wasn't as bad
as the hit on Hunter thisweekend.
Did you see that one?

Speaker 4 (32:45):
on Travis Hunter Travis Hunter, yeah, do you see
that?
That one was worse to mebecause it was blatant.
This one is just like he wastrying to knock the ball out, do
you get?

Speaker 5 (32:52):
what I'm saying.
I actually disagree with that.
Take whole hard, you think youthink this one's worse?

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Yes, this is actually a football play, whereas that
DB from Colorado State, the ballhad already gone past him and
he still hit him.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
Yeah, but like what's the worst now is going to
happen.
Travis Hunter he broke his riblike.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
And what's the worst that happened, Logan Thomas.
He got up and walked off thefield.
Yeah, hunter left the game, buthe loved the game and may not
be playing.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
But it would have been worse.
Like the helmet to helmet isway worse.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Yeah, the Hunter one was bad too, because those both
teams were like head huntingthat whole game.
Oh it was it was terrible.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
It was on one, jordan , it was such a fun game to
watch.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
The Colorado Colorado State game was so fun to watch,
but there was so much headhunting that game it was making
me sick.
I'm like these guys are soimmature and they can't display
a freaking football.

Speaker 5 (33:40):
Oh, look at their coaches.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
No, I know, and it's sad, it really is sad.
I'm like how does one playerlegit have five personal foul
penalties in one game?
I'm like you are an idiot,you're an idiot.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
Well, the worst is they were lighten up the
quarterback.
Should do overtime, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Well, and should do.
Sanders poking a guy in theeyes.
Did you not see that?
I didn't see it.
He's talking to him and hepokes him in the eyes.
I'm like dude.
This game is out of control.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
The best thing that happened in college football was
when.
I'll just save this for my divaof the week.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
I'll save it.
I'll save it.
Divas of the week.
Are you talking about thekicker?

Speaker 2 (34:13):
No no, can I?

Speaker 4 (34:14):
talk about the kicker .
What kicker 31 years old andthree kids kicking for Colorado
State.
Where do you go from there?
Is that your dream, phil?
Uh, I don't know.
I don't think.
If I was to walk on, I thinkI'd have to be getting really
like, get really good atpickleball or something like
that.
Like, I'm not, I'm not kicking.
I'm definitely not a kicker.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
It's called intramural.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
All right, we're moving on here, trent talking
about Terry McLaren.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
I actually felt pretty good about.
I felt pretty good about TerryMcLaren.
Uh, he had a really nicetouchdown catch and he he had
targets like Well, like at half,what was it?
Three to 20.
It was three to 20 at one pointI was like.
That was when I was kind oflike, okay, this he's gonna get
the volume.
You know, like he's, they'regonna start throwing the ball.

(34:59):
Really good game, maybe one ofthe best games of the day.
But yeah, this was a miss by me.
Terry McLaren, uh, had a nicetouchdown.
He had the I mean Trent, he had54 yards and the TD.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
I really saved him Right.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
I mean, I guess he did have.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
He had five receptions.
But like he had five receptionand you're screaming.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
You're right, If he doesn't catch a touchdown and
that touchdown was a big yard istouched First half he had first
half he had five catches for 50yards.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
He scrambled.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
He finished the touchdown and that's what he did
.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
That wasn't the first half, sorry yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Got saved by.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
He had five catches 54 yards and a really nice
touchdown catch.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
So you just got burned by big plays this week.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah and yeah, like volume wise I did pretty good.
Between my two sits there wasseven catches.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yeah, no, that's totally fine yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
Big plays, but, uh, you probably feel pretty good
about one of your starts.
Though.
Let's talk about James Cook.
Can we talk about?

Speaker 1 (35:50):
that we can talk about that, but this game was
great.
Phil Russ had the big Hail.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Mary, at the end Let Russ cook.
I saw you texted that to thegroup.
That it for for talking.
All that trash on Peyton isOwen too.
He's Owen too.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
They're not good, they suck, yeah, but why would
you come into the season justchirping away?
You know other coaches like hehad some videos Like it's just
like he's Owen, I don't know.
I don't know.
This could be an urban Meyerrewind with Sean Peyton coming
back, like it could end up goingthat far but I don't know, Dude
, there was a.
Let's just let's continue onJames Cook.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah, James Cook.
I was I felt really good aboutthis play.
He a hundred yards rushing.
It looked like they finallyreally got him involved.
The only problem with JamesCook is a a tervious.
Murray got the red zone carryLike that's a bummer, but I
think that's also kind of whatwe expected.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
And a Damien Harris had a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Touchdowns.
So yeah, Cook had 17 attempts,123 yards.
It would be really nice if hehad a touchdown.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
It was the perfect game script for Cook.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Well, and then Josh Allen, I think, had like two,
like two yard touchdown passes aday, like Dawson Knox caught
like a five yard TD.
And then I think, uh, rickShahid did you know, Shahid,
what's what's?

Speaker 5 (37:09):
what's?
Shakir, Shakir.
And then Gabe Davis had a shortone.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Shakira, shakira.
So they were just running downthere.
I was the um, but yeah, I feltreally good about this one.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, no, he is a.
It was a good one and you'regoing to you're going to talk
any trash Trader Nation?
I know you like chirpingeveryone, no.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
I.
I'm not going to talk trash oryour nation, they're.
They're people too, phil, andthey listen to the pod.
So yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
I wasn't going to, but I know you from time to time
you'll throw a pot chop.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
You used to be a Raider fan, Phil, so yeah, so I
can't, but you will, you,sometimes you'll just say
Jordan's the Raider hater.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
Like I don't know why they want a big game.
Jimmy G was getting all ampedup after they beat the Broncos
by a point, and then they comein and just get annihilated by
the bill they suck Okay.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
And so the.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Broncos.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
All right All right.
So do the chargers.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
Chargers, that whole division sucks.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
That's how the chiefs how do you feel about the
Seahawks?
We didn't get to talk aboutthem at all today, seth, which
is is a little bit of a bummer,because they ended up.
They ended up winning it.
Baby, let's go.
And how good man, tyler Lockett, man, just give me some knuckle
across the table there.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
There we go, so old, but so good.
Yeah, he looks, he's he'sfeisty.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
All right, let's close it out with your.
Michael Pittman, I think we'vecovered everyone, right.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
It will my last sit place tomorrow night.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Jackson, smith and Jake.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Well, it's so good today, guys, you look so good.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
You're trying to be funny.
Oh, it's almost like youactually need reps during
preseason to start the seasonout good.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
I thought oh yeah, I mean sure.
Okay, keep going.

Speaker 5 (38:38):
I'm sorry this is so if you're trying to joke, if
you're listening to the pod forthe first time.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
we had a heated debate about three weeks ago
there's two weeks ago actuallywhere Trent said JSN was going
to be slow to start.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
So I made him a done and said I'd put it probably
pick him up off waivers.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
And then Jordan Seth said he was going to be totally
fine, and then Trent, I thinkhe's have fun picking him off
waivers Trent when he's owned byevery single person in the
league.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
yeah, if he keeps going for five, he won't be
owned by everyone in the league11 targets in two games Like
that's not bad.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
It's not bad at all.
The first game was terrible.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
I actually thought DK got hurt and I was like oh, jsn
probably.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
So, you thought you're going to have to eat your
words.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
I thought I was.

Speaker 5 (39:22):
It'll probably happen , but it's okay.
And the game one they wereabsolutely as bad.
Yeah, they were.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah, I mean they were.
Geno Smith came back to lifetoday and I think that's good.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
He also got owned by the referee, yeah.
My pitman start, did you see?

Speaker 1 (39:36):
that I'm talking to America right now.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Yeah, he's.
Geno's like trying to tell himsomething because he called the
grounding and it wasn'tgrounding, but geno's like
trying to get into his face andthe referee is like sir, sir,
I'm talking to America right now.
You didn't see that?

Speaker 3 (39:54):
I did, but I didn't know.
Just geno talking to him.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
Yes, I believe it was .
Wasn't it geno who you?

Speaker 5 (39:59):
saying it to who do you think led to Seahawks and
targets?

Speaker 1 (40:04):
I'm just looking at fantasy points, but I don't care
about fantasy points.

Speaker 5 (40:07):
Well, if you played him on your maybe you're in a
league that gets points fortargets.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
So you're right, you can't also had six.
You can't just be DK had sixtargets too.
You can't be.

Speaker 5 (40:16):
Oh, so he tied for targets.
Yes, he had more.
Uh, no, he was finished tightfor.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
No, sorry, lockett had 10.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
Okay, okay.
So who led them in targets?
So it's locked it.
They all had six, six and 10,but, trent, you can't just be
results oriented with everylittle thing.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
I think they're tied in.
Actually had more targets too,Actually no, no, they're tied
into not their tight game had acouple had a couple of good
targets.

Speaker 5 (40:42):
I just knew you just can't be results oriented and
just say oh, he had a bad hit.
Five catches for 34 yards.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
You're right, that's a really good game.
My bad, uh better than JamarChase.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
It was better than Jamar.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Chase Dude.
Jamar Chase is made, he'sprobably better than Michael
Pittman.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
It was Michael, no, michael Pittman added decent
when things get too heated wehad.
What we have to do is shakehands.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
So Jordan, please.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
No, I'm not here.
He has a hand.
He had better game than Calvin.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Ridley.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yes, shake hands so we can move on.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Michael Pittman Uh, he had nine fantasy points.
I think this is a miss, so I'mgoing to say I went one for one
for four.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
He had 12 targets, though, yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yeah, trent.
No, here's a thing.

Speaker 5 (41:25):
Hey, he's had double digit targets in both games.
Michael Pittman's a lot betterplaying PPR.
Yes, that's, that looks fairlygood in PPR.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, and I think if Richardson doesn't get hurt,
maybe he has a better gameRichardson actually had
gardeners probably their pastthrow past, throw the football,
mint you yeah, but the thing ishe missed him.
He Pittman was wide open on afade and he just missed him.
I did not watch that game.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
It's a Richard, he can go out completely.
Yeah, concussion Mint, you's aguy, huh, he's going to start
next week, let's go.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
They're not throwing the ball very deep with
Richardson and Pittman is reallygood at running those like
short routes and I think that'swhat helped him with Richardson
is he's getting all those shortroutes in like the middle of the
field for five less than fiveyards per target.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yeah, richardson is QB six on the season.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
That makes sense.
I don't think it's going.
You're saying it's not going tochange with Mint.
You, though I don't think he'sgoing to be throwing deep
downfield.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
I think he can more.
You think he will, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Richardson.
We don't know if he's going toplay next week or not with I
don't think he can right.
I just pause a littleconcussion, so he went like he
went, he had six completions and17 points.
So he had 56 yards rushing andhe had two rushing touchdowns
today.
I didn't realize he had tworushing touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Yeah, one person to talk about maybe is getting Zach
Moss this week.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Zach Moss, yeah, yeah .

Speaker 3 (42:44):
He had a rushing touchdown, I mean, and if he
doesn't play next week, we don'tknow.
Gardener Mint, she's not goingto run like.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Richardson, so it didn't kill you.
He didn't help when he probablydidn't win you your week either
, though, but he probably wasyour receiver.
To that you drafted, or three.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
Yeah, so he's got a chance.
It's not a short week.
You're definitely not playingon Thursday night, so we're
probably there's a chance thathe plays.
It's like a seven day windowthere, or six, whenever you want
to call it.
All right, moving on here, Ithink that we had Seth.
You have one more start, right.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Yes, I had.
My start was juju.
This one was just a flat outmiss.
I mean, he had six targets.
I mean five receptions for 28yards.
I don't think any receiver onthe team if I'm looking at it
right Demonte Parker he had sixfor 57.
I mean the Patriots didn't lookthat good.
And then Trent said also afterwe had talked already someone

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posted on Twitter that he was.
They thought he was like thefifth best receiver on the team
or something.

Speaker 5 (43:45):
Well, well.
The other problem was thatDevon's Parker was supposed to
miss the game.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Don't do.
Parker did play.
Yeah, you're right.
And then he led the team inreceiving, did you?

Speaker 1 (43:52):
see that tweet.
It was like Ari or whatever.
Someone said like my roverscoming out of Patriots.
You know camp was juju's thefifth best receiver on the team,
but he's the highest paid.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
Well, he also can't move, Like they're saying that
he has a really bad kneeproblems or is a year back, or
something.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
They said it was a knee, but what I read before was
he's saying he he feels hisknees at 100%.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
I'm going to say that most people who listen to the
pod and play fantasy footballprobably saw that stuff and
probably, hopefully, didn't playhim after they saw that.
Yeah, that's what I'm hoping.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Well, I think it would take the L on it.

Speaker 5 (44:29):
Forget about the whatever tweet that was.
I think it's more about Devon's.
Parker came back, so more thananything else Parker only had
eight fantasy points.
Yeah, but targets wise and justthe role in the offense and
routes.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 5 (44:41):
I think he was in there.
He played the whole game, Ithink.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Is that all our starts and sits?

Speaker 4 (44:47):
No, we had.
We talked about miles and milesand it's place.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
So what did we go on the week here?

Speaker 4 (44:53):
So, I did.
We touch on a little bit.
I went to tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
So we're good.
I'm going to say I went one forfour.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yeah, I say two for me to four.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Jordan, you went two for three.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
Two for three, nice, so that's good, and you may, you
may go, I may go, you may run,it may go.
Three and one In the doubleheader tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Yeah yeah, raheem had a decent, he had that big run
right.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yeah, we talk about.
We talk about most of it.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
Yeah, we definitely did.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
All right.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
Do you want to get a divas?
Where are we going?
No, I just what, what, what isyour week.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Jordan kind of brought this up last week.
What's kind of been yourbiggest surprise week two weeks
into the NFL season?

Speaker 5 (45:34):
This is harder for week two.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Mine would be two and one.
Yeah, I didn't think they'dbeat the Packers.
The real deal.
Bejohn looks like the realpower.

Speaker 5 (45:48):
That split actually felt like he was a little bit
different.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
They're saying that Bijan's probably going to lead
the NFL and Miss tackles likeforcing Miss tackles.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
Oh, he had one, a nasty one, yeah, like he's just
19 attempts, 124 rushing yards.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
I don't know what it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
How's your at 16?

Speaker 5 (46:10):
So I mean, it wasn't that far behind.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
I just think what's his receiving, what's the
receiving on that?

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Oh, he only had five out here, had no targets
receiving, though, and B Johnhad four catches, oh, algear.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
Algear season 48.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah, no touch Showns B.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
John had no touch Showns either 6.53 yards per
carry, 19 carries 125 yards, getafter it.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
So B John, no TD, though, a little frustrating.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Bijan looks good.
Ritter red Rennemann.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Ritter, yeah, and that was a comeback win.
Were they down by 10?

Speaker 5 (46:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
That was a comeback win and Ritter was just checking
up yellow balls to Mack Hollins, the one guy I didn't think you
would check yellow balls up to.
I thought Mack Hollins had atouchdown catch in that game.
I don't know how you overturnthat.

Speaker 5 (47:02):
They got called incomplete on the field or got
called touchdown on the field.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
I think it got called .
I wasn't watching that with thesame.
Whatever, I think it got calledincomplete.
And that's what's tough, isasset, conclusive evidence, but
it looked like his heels clearlytouched after he caught the
ball, so I was surprised hedidn't get that.
But yeah, I think Falcons areone of the biggest surprises.
I kind of had been have beenbeaten the Falcons drum all off
season.

(47:27):
I didn't think they'd win today, though, and I'd say Jordan
loves a decent surprise, right,did he have a?

Speaker 5 (47:33):
Okay, he kind of sucked.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
He's just getting touchdowns, but he's getting
touchdowns but he's not gettingthe yard.
So he had 20 fantasy pointstoday, Jordan, so it's not bad.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
John who Smith had more receptions and yards and
cow pits.

Speaker 5 (47:44):
Yeah, it sucks.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
Yeah, sorry, I stopped your train there.
Go ahead and talk a little bitmore about Jordan, love.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
He's QB five on the season so far and what's your?
Surprise.

Speaker 5 (47:58):
The Falcons, I'd say.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Falcons being two and oh, it'd be a surprise and the
bangles being going to.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
That's not as surprising to me, Honestly.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
they usually start slow anyways and two divisional
games back to back.
Yeah, burrow was saying, hiscalf hurts.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
Yeah, he'll be fine.
Um oops.
So we don't think he'll be fine.
I hope he gets fine, soon, he'snot going to miss games.
I should.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Yeah, like I don't think if you drafted Joe Burrow
you'd say he's fine right now,like what he's killing me and
some stuff, jamar.
Chase especially he had 17points today.
Which was that was doable?
Burrow didn't kill you today.
No, he didn't.
Last week he did.
Uh, you just need those calfinjuries.
They just don't go away unlessyou don't do anything.
And the fact that it's reaggravated.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
It concerns me, and it's not even a bi week scenario
, like you have to not dosomething yet.
No, bi week till week seven.
Yeah, you're not now you're ownto.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
They would have been better off, like what Chase said
, sitting out the first fourgames and maybe go one and three
than oh and two, and he reaggravates it.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
But what sounds like he did.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah.
So I don't like I think he'sgoing to play, but just it's a
long season to have that.
Uh, other surprises, kind of Ithink you could say Puka Jordan.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
You don't think that's a big surprise, but what
about the?

Speaker 5 (49:20):
uh, I had him as my start, so I would be surprised.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
I'm just saying like for the whole season, I don't
know.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
Well, I would say a week, two or the whole season,
like it's kind of like hey, thisis just your question that I'm.
No, I'm clarifying thoughtraining clarifies a week, two
or um.
I'll say the most surprisingthing today for me was how much
the Cardinals are actuallytrying to lose, like yeah, do

(49:46):
you think they like was it 21?
zero, it was 28 to like seven orwhatever Like like.
I mean, I was really happybecause I had the giants and
survivor and so I have all mysurvivor teams through two weeks
, but, um, so you think they'rejust throwing it was 28 to seven
at one point I don't think so,but man, like that was a crazy

(50:09):
game.
The giant scored 24 points inthe last 18 minutes of the game.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Yeah, really salvaged my Daniel Jones quarterback
though.
Yeah, it was just they did notlook good at first.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
The Cardinals do not want to win.
I'm pretty confident that also.
I think the most other surprisein the most surprising game for
me today was the lion's yawksgame.
I'm shocked that they beat thesea.
Ox.
Be the lions on the road.
What?

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Yes, that was shot.
That one was shocking to me.
You see the sea hawks, guyswearing masks in the game.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
After the game the locker didn't fire it up Like
that was.
That was crazy.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
I'm trying to find who Daniel Jones on the week
it's.
Daniel Jones was QB1 this weektime make her cousin.
That's what I was looking in.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
What is the?
What does it look like?
She's just the last two games.
What does that look like?

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Do you want to guess who QB3 was this week?
Jordan Baker, russell Wilson.
Maybe this is just because theleague I'm in might have some
bonus points or something, buthe had 56 rushing yards and he
threw for.
He got that bonus three, yeah,three here and eight rushing, oh

(51:31):
he got the 40 plus bonus, okay.

Speaker 5 (51:34):
So, yeah, maybe that's just two or three.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
I run as just be to the leak we're in that put him
there.
I Don't know, seth, anythingthat's surprising you I.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Was gonna say puka, but I mean, I guess Maybe the
amount like this there's a tonof injuries this year, but maybe
again it's just I'm justthinking about it.
But meet, there's injuriesevery year, but maybe I'm just
Thinking there's more than thisyear, than there was at the
beginning of last year.
I think there was a lot of likemaybe higher profile guys being
injured, like starting theseason then Then maybe last year

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like there more injuries inpreseason or stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
So Jordan loves.
Not surprising, did you guyssay that.
How well he's taken you listento anything.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
We did talk about my apologies.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
I was doing some research on something entirely
different.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
What's your most surprising thing?
I?

Speaker 4 (52:25):
was gonna say Jordan.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
I kind of threw him in as an honorable mention, but
yeah, he's got three TDs, nointerceptions.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
I think that's a pretty.

Speaker 5 (52:33):
I did not expect him to also tripped over himself
trying to snap the ball.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
Yeah, I mean, I've seen you.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
The See me?

Speaker 4 (52:47):
you saw me running, did I trip?

Speaker 1 (52:49):
No what about the Patriots lateral tonight to the
line for the first down.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
That was pretty good, I think the most surprising
thing for me over the weekendwas the Colorado Colorado State
game and that's not even NFLrelated, but that was crazy.

Speaker 5 (53:00):
Um, yeah, I mean, that game was whatever.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Do you want to get in the Divas?

Speaker 5 (53:04):
No, no, no, we got one more question, trent.
Okay, yes, yes, but also Ithink I was.
Honestly, the most surprisingthing for me was the dichotomy
of the scoring between week oneand week two.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Yeah, I went up.

Speaker 5 (53:15):
Oh it's crazy.
Yeah, every game, I think, wentover the total, except for the
Jaguar chiefs.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
It takes about four weeks, they say, for the unit
for the offense to get clicking.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
But I mean we went from like horrible games so like
I think I don't know if theBuffalo Vegas went over that
total, but I think Philadelphia,minnesota did Baltimore, since
he did Charter Tennessee did theGreen Bay, atlanta.
I Think every game went overthere went over the total, even

(53:46):
the Jets Dallas game.
That total is in the 30s.
Oh so the Miami New Englandgame, jaguar chiefs game, only
two games and the Jaguar chiefgame was like the one game I
think everyone thought would goover the total and it didn't
yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
What about the utilization of the tight end?
Is that surprising you Likethat?
It's more?
I think it's more.
Really, I Truthfully think it'smore like how many tight ends
are getting, how much they'respreading it around a different
tight ends are catchingtouchdowns this year, that's
what there.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
There's a, there's a lot of tie-in play.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Yeah, yeah I.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Like uh see, I surprised you right now.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Hunter Henry was tight in two on the week.
At the list I'm looking at,hawkinson was 25.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Yeah.
Hawkinson had a there's a lotof tight-end touch on this week
at least, yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Yeah, ferguson, knox.

Speaker 5 (54:36):
Yeah, Hawkinson had to Henry'd one Andrews one
shoemaker.
Kelsey one.
Logan Thomas one.
Kylin Granson one like wall orno TV, but 76 yards Shoemaker,
schoonmaker, a man, the Cowboysshould you to tie in touch.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Yeah, yeah, I just loves tight ends.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
Okay, trent, who is the most hurtful for you today?

Speaker 1 (54:58):
most hurtful.
I forgot about this one.
Um Just looking at my team.

Speaker 5 (55:04):
It could be anything.
It could be your wallet, couldbe your wallet, your team.
Yeah, who?
Who killed like, who hurt you?

Speaker 1 (55:11):
today.
Let me check my Go back.
Should we go, I would sayTrevor Lawrence probably hurt my
team, or Ridley.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
Those are the guys that hurt me the most probably
not as much as they hurt me, butyeah.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Javante Williams.
Really, you know, he just 12carries, 44 yards Versus
Washington.
I thought he'd have a littlebetter game than that,
especially with how they got thelead.
You Know, see who else I got inhere.

Speaker 5 (55:38):
It's supposed to be one guy, trent, not five guys.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Yeah, then I would say Trevor Lawrence.
I'm gonna lose a matchupbecause of Trevor Lawrence.
I would say, guy care about.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
Mine was 100% Calvin Ridley, but like I know it's
also probably Seth, so but yeah,I that's fine.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Yeah, yeah he killed me.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
I had him in almost every one of my main teams for
DFS so it was not fun.
Yeah, most of that whole game.
Honestly, that that whole gamewas the most hurtful, just
because I had a ton of it and Inall my lineups, so it was.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
I gotta remember this question so I can prep myself
better too.

Speaker 5 (56:21):
It's always easier for me just because I think I
probably like there's alwaysguys that I yeah but I'm gonna
say Patrick Mahomes the wholegame.
Honestly, it was literally thewhole entire game, because I had
so much of that game in DFS andit just busted and it Sucks.
So I say mine honestly,honestly, I probably have done
this yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
Dalvin cook.
I started and I sat master mosthurt.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
Dalvin cook had negative is a negative one point
and I I, honestly was like Ishould have started mustard, if
you would have asked me who tostart, I would have said no, I
know, I it was a wrong decisionto make, and I did it in haste
and it makes me so mad.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
It's a in haste, it's one of those most frustrating
situations like that, so Iswapped them too, like it's not
something that was set.
Do you get what I'm saying?
Yeah, it is, yeah.

Speaker 5 (57:10):
Mistake all right, seth most most hurtful, was it
also ridley for you?

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Yeah, I would have made quite a bit of money today
for the hit the line.

Speaker 5 (57:19):
So I'm gonna say that yeah, ridley was a man, he was.
He was hurtful day.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
I wish you could play the Johnny Cash in trowing that
segment.
Oh, actually, sorry, it's not,it's.
I think it's a nine inch nailsong that Johnny Cash covered.
It's a little bit better.
You ever heard that song?
I hurt myself today.
Oh, it's a great song.
Yeah, it's not kids.
Yeah, the last song you everdid right?
I think it's actually JohnnyCash is covering a nine-inch

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nail song.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
And I don't think he let his wife listen to it till
after he passed away.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
Oh, really, yeah, it's really good Johnny Cash, so
I guess a good one, yeah, allright.
Moving on divas.
Are we doing divas, you see?
Yeah, we can do some divas here.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
I'm just trying to see if other people got hurt by
similar like.
You talk about good tight endgames.
George Kittle three catches, 30yards, you know.
So we named a bunch of guysthat had way better games.
And George Kittle Um, yeah, wecan move over to divas.
I have a diva.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
Hit it, let's hear it .

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Okay, my diva the week is Quarterbacks that when
they kneel they run around, thenkneel.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
I feel like running out.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
I feel like you should have to kneel right when
you get it, not like runbackwards or left and right,
like like the Floridaquarterback this week.
He ran around and he didn't gobackwards, he like rolled out
then kneeled, like I thinkyou're kind of putting yourself
out there as a Ball carrier andthen you're gonna kneel and it
caused a huge fight.
Yeah, he got popped right afterhe kneeled.

(58:48):
Did you see it, jordan?

Speaker 5 (58:50):
For a quarter.
I didn't see that for thequarter.
Is that game in the game?
In the game, I was mad.
I Tennessee to parlay and helost.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
I turned that huge huge like fight after because he
got hit it wasn't Scrap City,it was a guy squared up.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
Yeah, after that one, they're like about to square
it's like a DB and a lineman,like basically putting their
feet in the dirt, like which Idon't blame them.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
The guy did kind of pop the quarterback, but I'm
also like hey, big game, you hadthe upset like just kneel, like
don't roll out right then, thentake a.

Speaker 5 (59:19):
Well, you know why some of that thing is right?
Because they need to get thetiming right.
Yeah, so don't have to kneelagain.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Yeah, I think that you should just have to kneel,
though, or expect.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Run backwards.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Yeah, I Don't know, I think the kneel is.
I think if you take a step,your live game, I don't think
you should be able to run aroundthen kneel.
But yeah, maybe if you do.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
don't get all chippy when you get up like and it
wasn't like he tackled him, hebumped him, it wasn't like a it
wasn't a Jordan.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
No, no, I'm not, so it was a good fight.
So I mind just quarterbacksthat don't just properly kneel.
That's what I'm saying.
Is anyone else have a dinnerthis week?

Speaker 5 (59:57):
I Kind of it's not very good though, so I wouldn't
even go to say it, let's hearyeah.
I don't know how applicable itis to normal people, but like I,
was that a shocker.
I was that I.
Was that um I?
Went to like a fall basketballtournament yesterday and I was

(01:00:18):
just watching, we weren'tplaying and it's, it's.
They go sidecourt in the gymand so there's not, there's not
really stands right.
So, yeah, everyone's got seenlike we're, and so I was sitting
along the baseline Like doesthe basket and against the wall
and so there's not a lot of roomthere, right, and they're
inbounding right there and likejust people's impatience, like I
guess people, people who areimpatient, is like my diva.

(01:00:41):
Like People were walking, likethey're the guys inbounding.
I'm sitting people trying towalk, like right behind them as
they're inbounding, and saidjust like, just wait, like 30
seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Oh, I think they're interrupting the game.

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
They're like trying to walk while the refs trying to
give the ball the player toinbound.
It's like people just wait 30seconds until the balls less
than probably probably less thanthat To the balls on the other
side of the court.
Yeah, instead of making the refwait for you to walk by, like
like we get it, it's packed inhere, just wait a little bit.
Like people's impatience, Ithink, is like.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
People's impatience.
And also those are the samepeople that when you're taking a
family photo or something, theywalk right in front.
Yes, it's like that, hey, likethat's such an amateur move.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Go in the back in photo bomb.
I honestly that's the biggestthing, that's the biggest thing
that the digital cameras ruinthe photo bomb game Absolutely
killed it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
No, but it's terrible .
Just like, hey, take a secondand just pause, like I can
almost guarantee if you're inthe exact same place I am, you
are not as important.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
You know how many pictures I am in at Disneyland.
You know like Predigital cameraera of just straight-up photo
bombing stuff, you mean like thedisposables it's.
I'm in the background of somany pictures, just probably
every like just yeah, justnobody.
I'm in so many pictures, likejust of people.
I don't know, seth, what do yougot?

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
I don't have anything Seth come on I don't have any
playing footsies with me?

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Watch your feet there Seth.

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
You have anything Phil.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
I'm trying to think, I think the I it's not a diva,
because this is like I'm just.
I'm just Ridiculous for goingto sleep early, but these late
college football games packed 12after dark is terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
I.

Speaker 5 (01:02:33):
I don't mind.
I'm usually up that way on aSaturday night anyways, doing
NFL research.
So so what?

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
time do you draw the line?
Because it was like halftimeand it was like 915 for the
Colorado, colorado State game.

Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
I mean I'm not going to bed till 11 30 minute
Saturday night, but like it'spart of the reason.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Christian McCaffrey, you didn't get the Heisman.
Yeah, voters don't stay up towatch those games.
No, toby Gerhardt, I visitedlast night.

Speaker 5 (01:02:58):
I bet everyone stayed up to watch.
I called out a game last night.
I've, I went to see what I was1727.
Your Heisman voter.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
You're probably like I'm just gonna go to bed.

Speaker 5 (01:03:07):
I think you're underestimating the deon factor.

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
I went to bed when it was 1727 and I was embarrassed
to wake up to find out that theywon, like I had watched the
majority of the game.
What time we go to sleep?
It was 1015 when I was asleep.
Did you just stay up for therest of the game?

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
I bet you he's not alone Like that, that game.
You do that game at 12 o'clockon Saturday.
Its numbers are even bigger, orfive?
Yeah no, the pack 12 after darkthing was not a good move and I
saw a bunch of tweets to likeeverybody thought it was cool,
bring the pack 12 into the big10, until they realized how late
these games go because theyjust don't do that over there,
like well, I know that I meanTrent.

Speaker 5 (01:03:45):
Most pack 12 games are at seven o'clock at night,
pacific time, which is nineo'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
On the east coast it's 10 o'clock, but yeah, but
they play games at seven o'clockon the east coast it's like
they don't play at the same time.
It's a different time zone.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
Not really, though Not as much Like who named one
recently.

Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
Every single like five o'clock game is at eight
o'clock over there.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
Yeah, but it's not a set, yet it's.
That's drastically different.

Speaker 5 (01:04:14):
No, the Florida Tennessee game started at four
o'clock Pacific time.
Seven o'clock.

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
Seven o'clock over there, no but the.

Speaker 5 (01:04:21):
Colorado Colorado State.
Game started at seven o'clockPacific time 10 o'clock over
there.
Yeah, but it's still.
It's still seven, eight o'clockin your region where the game
is happening.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
The game ended at close to around 1130 last night
or whatever night it was lastnight 1130.
Okay, that means it was 2 30am.
If you're living in, we'retalking about nation, no no,
we're talking about nation Iball 12.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
This is not your city , and no, your.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
Your point was is that they're mad because of how
like the games go?
The game start the same time,just in different time zones?

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
No, no, I agree with you that, but it's a game like
that.
You don't think everyone in thenation wants to watch that game
and so what's the time you haveto play at?

Speaker 5 (01:05:03):
started at five, that's eight, I'm fine.
Four PST right, okay, butthat's yeah, you're still.
The game's not getting donetill 10 o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Yeah, yeah, but that's different.
That's better than the morning.

Speaker 5 (01:05:12):
Yes, I think you guys underestimate how, like how
many people watch.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
There's people that have said they didn't vote for
Christian McCaffrey to win theHeisman because these games were
too late at night.
Do you think those people act?

Speaker 5 (01:05:23):
like.
Those are not voters.
Yes, they're not collegefootball fans, they're media who
?

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
don't watch games.
If I have to go to church onSunday or anything on Sunday,
I'm not going to stay up till2am to watch a football game.

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
We're now getting the weeds out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
I don't know, I'm saying you're the, you're the
unusual one probably, who's likeif you, that's the up till 10,
30, 11, a Saturday night.

Speaker 4 (01:05:44):
How are we?

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
I'm talking about East Coast.
I understand that, but like Ithink the media okay one Heisman
voters don't watch footballgames because the media is a
joke, so I'm not even gonna.
But they do vote for theHeisman, okay, well, who cares?
Like the commissioners of theconference don't care, they care
about TV numbers.

(01:06:05):
Plenty of people are up at 2amon a Saturday, saturday night,
not as much as a club Likethey're not.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
I'm telling you, like Jordan, you're not going to
have people over to your houseto watch a football game that
ends at 2 in the morning.

Speaker 5 (01:06:19):
Do you understand how normal it is on the East Coast,
fights, ufc fights every singleSaturday.
Go till that time on a Saturdaynight.
You live on the East Coast,you're a sports fan, you're
going to be up If there's bassit's a terrible life NBA games
you lose.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Casual NBA games started 10pm.

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
Like, but also the casual on the East Coast are
watching East Coast teams.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
I'm just telling you this is really bad for Pat the
Pac 12.
I don't know what they're goingto do.
Maybe they don't do that.
They might tell the Pat.
They might tell USC, like, hey,we'll play there, but you have
to start your games at 5pmPacific time.
You're not starting at 7pm.

Speaker 5 (01:06:56):
No, they won't, because they want those TV and
they want that.
That's the whole point ofhaving the West Coast teams.
Is that get they, get thosenetwork spots.
They have teams in the latenight games.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Yeah, okay, I don't.
I think you could blow it upmore if you did it earlier, but
maybe I'm wrong, but there'salready people who are watching
in those time segments becauseof all the teams on the East
Coast.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
Yeah, but you you want to have the team you want
to watch.
Do you get what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 (01:07:20):
Like, I'm just saying they can start a little bit
earlier.
I think you guys us tounderestimate how many people
are up watching.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
I just saw what I saw on Twitter of people on the
East Coast going like this isgoing like this is terrible.
How late this game is All.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
I know is the national.
Those are casual sports fans.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
I don't think that people on.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
Twitter does not start at 7pm.
Uh uh, pc Pacific time.
Yeah, it is not sure at 7pm.

Speaker 5 (01:07:42):
That's a whole.
That's a whole.
That's a bad comparison.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
What is the national champion set?
That's actually the nationalchampionship game.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
If it's played on the West Coast, it's not playing at
7pm Pacific time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
It was at four this year, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
It's at four, because that's how you get.

Speaker 5 (01:07:55):
Yeah, but we're talking about a normal Saturday.
They have to fill time slots onnetwork TV.
No, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
But if you're choosing a time slot on network
TV and it's going to be a biggame you still again want the
most eyeballs on that game.
Play it at a time whereeveryone's going to watch it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:10):
I mean they also do these schedules way in advance,
for anyone knew that Coloradowas a fair point.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
That's why you should keep the TBD on there.

Speaker 5 (01:08:19):
I'm sure, like Tennessee Florida.
I'd be curious the numbers areon Tennessee Florida compared to
Colorado Colorado state.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
That game got done, though I think I think
everyone's watching Colorado,colorado state right.

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
I mean.
I might be watching Colorado.
What's the numbers on color?
That's what I'm actuallycurious.
It's not worth looking up rightnow.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
I think that kind of does it, though, guys, I'll be
back on Tuesday with a waiverwire pod, so you don't want to
miss that A little bit of acollege football talk here today
, but it was a fun show, feelslooking at the numbers.

Speaker 4 (01:08:50):
No, no, no, no, no.
This was 8.7 million viewerswatch Colorado.
Defeat Nebraska.
How many viewers watch Colorado?

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
state.

Speaker 4 (01:08:57):
I'm so excited 16 million combined viewers.

Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
Yep, that late night really hurt the viewership.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Yeah, probably it'd been way more though earlier, I
think, jordan.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
Yeah, I would have been in the 20s if it started
three hours earlier.
Yeah, you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Okay, whatever, you guys can't wait to argue about
this the rest of the night.
But hey guys, thanks for tuningin and, as always, this has
been another episode of thefantasy football dudes podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
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