January 10, 2024 • 52 mins
In our 101st episode, join us as we embark on a transformative journey, shifting our focus from mind to body, exploring the profound link between physical fitness and mental acuity, all while conditioning for the ultimate challenge—a 365-mile mountain biking race, the TNGA
Welcome to The Focus Cast, where we delve into the intricate connections between mind and body. After an enlightening 100 episodes dedicated to sharpening our mental focus, we're embarking on a thrilling new journey. Join us as we shift our focus to the physical realm, exploring the symbiotic relationship between the mind and body.
In this season, we're not just discussing the benefits of physical exercise; we're challenging ourselves to embody it. Our hosts are on a mission to understand how pushing physical boundaries can enhance cognitive abilities and overall focus. We'll be delving into scientific articles that unravel the mysteries of why activities like running, weightlifting, and yoga play a crucial role in optimizing mental performance.
But that's not all – we've set ourselves an audacious goal. Get ready to follow our hosts on their transformative journey as they condition themselves for the ultimate test – the 365-mile mountain biking race known as the TNGA (Trans North Georgia Adventure). Scheduled for August, this race will be a testament to the power of focus, determination, and the incredible potential that lies within the human body.
Join us every week as we explore the intersection of physical fitness and mental acuity, sharing insights, expert interviews, and personal experiences. Whether you're a seasoned athlete or just starting your fitness journey, The Focus Cast is your go-to source for unlocking the secrets to a focused and resilient mind-body connection. Get ready to pedal, push, and persist with us on The Focus Cast – where the journey to optimal focus begins in the body.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to episode 101 of the Focus Cast.
Very nice, bro, a lot haschanged.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yes, it has.
Yeah, we started off with theFocus Cast.
This will be a quick recap.
Getting drunk in my roomrecording about random subjects
yeah, that was phase one.
Phase one.
Phase two A little bit lessdrinking.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah, I mean, I would say, phase two was from episode
one to episode 100 was ourjournal.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Basically.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
We set out to increase our focus.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And through that we found absolute transformation.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
So here's what happens when you listen to
podcasts and try and learn newinformation and expand your well
of knowledge and just kind ofgrow every day doing this for a
podcast, even if no one listensto it.
The growth you gain from thatis really the most important
(01:02):
part.
It wasn't even really about thelisteners.
I mean it wasn't about having abunch of listeners.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Which is what everyone says when they don't
have a lot of listeners.
How about this?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We grew enough to where I'm OK with the fact that
we still don't have manylisteners.
There you go, boom.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
That's the way to say it, there we go.
Yeah, our personal growth wasso significant in the past two
years that who cares?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, so phase three, phase three, so we introduce
ourselves oh yeah, I'm Jonathan.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Noel and I'm Brian Noel, and this is the FocusCast
when we help founders reducedistractions, increase focus so
we can live a life withintention.
Yep, so yeah, that was phaseone.
Phase two, and on Instagram Iwrote the shift in internal
scripts from my therapy work.
(02:01):
So I thought this would be agood way to kind of close out
phase two recap, which is we gotdialed in, bro.
We set up the office here inKennesaw, got a new podcast
studio, a bunch of new equipmentand really worked on the art of
podcasting, and then you and I,both kind of individually, went
(02:25):
really deep on just increasingour mental focus and whatever we
want to call it.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, whatever, yeah, our just awareness in the
health space Transformation iskind of overused now.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, well yeah, but we can just say it's been very
good I feel different.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I feel different too, today than I did on January
2022.
2023.
, 2023.
And going back and listening tothe old episodes, I mean they
were pretty funny because we'rejust giggling.
You know there's nervouslaughter.
We're saying things and justlaughing.
(03:04):
I don't know what that's likefor the listener.
I don't know if that'sobnoxious or if it's.
You know they're giggling withus, charming, yeah, I don't know
.
Or if it's like I can barelylisten to this and this is awful
, but that was us easing intothis, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And then we got into some good subjects, like when I
had some milestone moments.
We got into disassociation.
We got into the internal familysystems.
Fear Talked a lot about fearlast year, but man, wow, what a
transformation, no doubt.
So here are some scripts thatin 2023 are changed.
(03:48):
So when I say script, what Imean by that is a mental,
internal narrative, nice, so acore belief at the subconscious
level that I wasn't aware of OKand you had some scripts change
last year.
Yeah, so first one you shouldhate.
So one thing that was I wasstruggling with.
(04:10):
I'm not someone who just hatespeople or hates things, but I
hated the government, I hatedthe globalist, I hated a lot of
things and I just had a lot ofinternal hate subconsciously
that I didn't really know wasthere.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, and I hated myself.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
So the new script is to hate externally is a
reflection of hate internally.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
The good and bad in the world is just a projection
of the good and bad that I amcapable of what is it?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
as above, so below.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, I've never heard that before, but I like
that.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Basically, whatever's going on on the outside for you
is really a reflection of howyou feel on the inside.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah.
So what I can honestly say andI'm sure, as I read these, it's
very important to say thesearen't like I flipped a switch,
these are just new scripts thatnow, when I hit triggers or
experience tough times, I get tonow lean into the new script,
yeah, and not be unaware of thesubconscious and just freak out
(05:11):
Right.
So the second one is the worldis ending.
I spent a lot of time and a lotof hours, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
On the old.
Instagram experience eCornerBig time, where everything and
even though most things are ascam and things of that nature,
there is a lot to ponder.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Let's say, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well, here's my new script.
What's the new script?
You ready for this?
It always has been, and I'm notof this physical world anyway,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
The world's been ending since it started Yep.
For someone, somewhere, or somereason or another, it's felt
like their world was ending.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And that's.
Maybe it's by design or not.
It depends on who you'retalking to.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
But yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
A lot of fear and certainty and doubt pumped into
the collective consciousness tokeep people in that state.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Anyway, yeah, but the new script.
I'm not of this physical worldanyway.
The fear of the world ending isfear of losing myself.
Before I found myself Like theworld can't end.
I don't even know who I am yetyou know.
But now it's like I'm not ofthis physical world, like it
(06:34):
doesn't matter.
This really doesn't matter, andhere's what's so wild I don't
spend.
First of all, I did a majoroverhaul in my social feeds to
where I'm not just constantly inthe algorithms getting fear
porn.
Same.
I had to unfollow or do no.
So now, if before I would spendhours watching that shit, now
(06:56):
if I just get five minutes of it, I'm just like nope.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Not today.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
It's amazing.
It's way better.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
What is the quick thing?
From what did TG say?
The what she focused on getsbigger.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
So if you only focus on, the world is ending, your
world is ending Literally.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Because you're letting it consume you.
Yeah, until you die of a panicattack.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
OK.
The next one is this businessmust succeed.
It's got to succeed.
I've got to make it work.
I've got to make it workbecause my value is tied into
that.
But here's the new script.
I will be curious and creativeforever.
However that plays out, Yep.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
There's plenty of businesses to start Plenty yeah,
plenty of projects.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
There's plenty of ideas.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, it doesn't have to do anything.
Yeah, yep, that's when you'remore tied to the outcome than
the actual work.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, and what's great is that's been tested.
That one's been tested for thepast couple of like two months.
Yeah, because some things aretaken a little longer or not
working, and I'm literally inthe moment I'm just like You're
not upset about that.
I'm just like I'm never reallyupset about that.
No, it's pretty well.
The next one is be present withyour family, because that's
(08:08):
your job.
That's the script.
That was the manager in theinternal family system.
The new script is I am nowherebut where I am, yeah, I don't
have to tell myself to bepresent.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I am present.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yep, I don't have to manage my presence.
I'm present, and that's verynew for me.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, like that's moving past this association.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, that's a big one.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
It's a different reality for you, oh my gosh, I
love it.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
You are inadequate to provide for the future.
So you know we talked aboutthis quite a bit If you obsess
and disassociation, if youobsess over the future, you're
anxious.
If you obsess over the past,you're depressed.
I didn't do enough.
I'm not doing enough For me.
I lived in that.
I'm not doing enough.
So the new script is there isno future.
The future doesn't exist.
It's pretty simple, huh?
(08:59):
I fed my family today.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I mean, the future is not determined.
Yeah, there's no guarantee thatit will be there.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, I mean it literally doesn't exist.
The only thing that exists isright now.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, so you can obsess about it's basically like
the boogeyman.
Yeah, it really is, you knowAnyway.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, you are dead.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, you thought you were dead inside.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I felt dead inside.
So this was a big one.
My existence is completelyseparate from my father's desire
for me to exist, so I still wasattached to this need for my
father to need me to be alive,and whether he did or not, that
didn't even matter.
It didn't even matter, but Idetached from that.
That one was a good old resthall.
I remember that day.
(09:51):
The next one is you are cursed,yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
So I think you remember these.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I think that there's probably a decent amount of
people who have this script.
Yeah, yeah, I am cursed.
I think they're cursed becausethey always hit the red light.
They always do this, it nevergoes right.
They always get the parkingticket.
Things like that.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Get the bad partner, get the bad business partner,
get the bad friendship, get thebad boss.
So the new script is God didnot sacrifice me to Satan.
Oh, I thought that it's funny.
It's not like I was walkingaround, like you didn't think
that.
Yeah, I wasn't consciouslythinking.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
That you were sacrificed.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I'm some heavy, deep EMDR and therapy work.
I realized that I thought Godleft me for Satan in the crib
when I was about six months old.
I went back to that space,anyway, but he did not, and he
was there all along.
And he's there.
The creator is always there.
(10:57):
Yeah, it's nice.
Yeah, it's really nice.
Yeah, that's a big difference.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Unconditional love is way better than abandonment
yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yes, yes, alright, this is the last one.
You're ready for this?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
You're gonna love this.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Okay, masculinity is managing misery without fucking
up.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, that's the hell with script to carry.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
How many men can relate to that?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I mean, that's a heavy script to carry around all
the time.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I mean, I'm gonna read it one more time.
Masculine, I like how many Ms.
It was too Masculine.
And again, these weren't likethings I was saying in my
conscious.
These are things that I learned, that were buried deep in my
subconscious, internal scripts.
Masculinity is managing miserywithout fucking up.
Yeah, and my new script that Iwrote here is nope.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Nope Wrong.
That's not true.
That's not true.
That's simply not true.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Masculinity is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, you heard it here, folks.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Masculinity is magnificent.
So that's just a small taste ofyou know.
I've been kind of, you know,the holidays and I had some time
and so I've just been kind ofreflecting on the last year and
some of the awesome, incrediblemilestones that I've been so, so
, so fortunate to yeah, To hitor go through.
That's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Imagine what 2024 is gonna do.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, it's, I wrote in my.
It was in preparing for my lasttherapy session in January.
So the new year, I said howdoes one celebrate or plan for a
new year when time doesn'texist?
That was my first line andthat's what we'll talk about
today, because it's reallyinteresting that in our phase
(12:46):
three of the focus cast, it'snot really because it's 2020.
Yeah, in 2024, we just kind ofnaturally fell into this.
Every 50 episodes is when wejust decide to move into
whatever's next.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
It's like 50 episodes is a nice sprint.
It's a decent cycle, yeah, notto mention every winter.
It seems like when it's winterand you're inside a lot and
you're just sitting thereplugging away on a computer, you
start to realize what youdespise and what you don't want
to do with your time.
Yeah, so I don't.
(13:22):
We're in a dungeon right now.
Let's be real.
There's no windows, yeah,concrete walls, yeah, and it's
tough.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
This wall that you're seeing right here is ground.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
That's literally earth behind that concrete wall,
so we are 12 feet under.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Literally it feels like it sometimes.
We're deeper than a grave bro,a grave of our own design.
But that's not to say thishasn't been a great opportunity.
And we haven't learned ashitload of things this year,
last year, it's balanced right,right.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So how did this happen?
So now talking about the nextphase, right?
So what happened?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well, we bounced a couple of things off of each
other, but I was like I'm notreally seeing the value.
Yeah, we don't really have anaudience.
Yeah, you know, there's no onesaying like, maybe there are
there, yeah, we don't have.
I wasn't feeling the feedbacklike, hey, no feedback at all.
(14:26):
So I wasn't really feeling thevalue.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, and doing any of it yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
It's one thing.
I get a personal trainer.
I get anyone.
Yeah, if you're doing somethingand people are like, hey, this
is great, thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I received something from this.
Yeah, and I get it.
It's not like we expected thatto happen after two months.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I was reaching that point, though, because it had
been a couple years yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
And I think that's totally fine.
Yeah, and then we're alsoinside a lot, yeah.
So when I brought that up andthen you're like I don't want to
be, you brought up the we needto go on a hike or something.
How did you word?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
it.
I want to destroy myselfphysically.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
It kind of started to .
This was so kind of timelinewise.
So at the end of last year Iwas like I've got this whole
series for founders and I do.
I still have it but themotivation and the desire to
fully write out that, make sureit's of quality and deliver,
that I was like Felt liketorture.
(15:38):
Felt like torture, yeah, andthis was Thursday, so we had
planned on doing it but we kindof pushed it off.
Planned on doing it, kind ofpushed it off, got Really made
some cool music that we're goingto release over the Right
before the Christmas break.
So we just really had some funon some music.
And then it was Thursday lastweek.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
And today's Monday.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
And today's Monday, and I came in and I could see it
on your face that you were likeall right, bro, like previous,
last week we were talking aboutit and I was like we're gonna do
this for founders.
And I could see it on your faceYou're like I support you.
And then I was just like.
I came in and I was just like Ican't do it.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
It felt impossible.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Felt impossible.
And now, 12 months, I startedtherapy January 22, I think of
2023.
So I'm coming up on a year ofintense about 35 therapy
sessions breath work, all kindsof stuff.
Yeah, and something isabsolutely calling me to
(16:50):
physically go nuts, To justwreck the body To have some
physical challenges?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, because I've never.
I've never had those.
You know, there's people whoplan whatever their Iron Man's
or their yeah, 5ks or marathonsor whatever the hell they do
yeah, whatever it may be,whatever, I've never.
I've never had those kind ofgoals Me either.
I just do it.
I go on hikes.
I've been on a 20 mile hike,yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
We ride.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
We go mountain biking a lot, you know, and it's not
like we have to hit 100 miles,it's more like we just have to
have enough fun.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It's more like a fun meter.
It really is, but you know, Irealized I definitely had to do
the.
There's a 357 mile ride.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And, like you, were on board pretty much immediately
.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I think we're both going to do it no matter.
I want to do it, no matter whatyeah?
And I figured you were going todo that.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
So Well, it came up last year.
It came up last year, but itwasn't enough time to prep.
No, because we, because we'renot David Goggins yet but to
only have like a couple ofmonths to prepare for something
like that.
Well, we weren't mentally there, we weren't mentally ready.
Yeah, we didn't have thatmental.
I didn't have that mentalfortitude.
(18:03):
Yeah, I'm not saying I do, butI will, yeah, so we're doing a
357 mile bike ride across NorthGeorgia.
Yeah, it's going to be trailsand gravel.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, a lot of climbs 35,000 feet in elevation.
Try and do it in five minutes.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
That's how long the race is open.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
So in that comes conditioning.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Real conditioning.
I've never done, realconditioning.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Me either Didn't play sports in high school.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I've been physically active, yeah, racquetball,
mountain biking, hiking,whatever.
But I've never done likeconditioning with focus.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I've never done yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
And I've never, on top of that, a physical activity
where I'm crying because I hurtso bad, but I keep going.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I've never had that happen before.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Or yeah, you reached that point where your body's
screaming to quit, but you haveto keep going.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah, now I've been in my shed and I've cried
because I didn't want to.
I didn't want to, I didn't wantto do anything else in life,
but that was, that was mental.
I've never experienced thatphysically.
So it's time, it's time andhere's the way I, for me
personally, my coming to thisconclusion of, like phase three
(19:23):
is physical, physical time tokill ourselves physically is I
don't know, killing is prettyharsh, but yeah.
It's gonna feel like that,pushing past the body's
screaming.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yes, quick, quick, quick Right.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, for me it's a couple of things.
So this is, this is how I gotto this, since my significant.
I know people say ego death alot and that's fine.
All of these things mean verydifferent things to a lot of
different people right.
Everyone's experience is veryindividual.
So, yeah, anyway, but for thesake of whatever I want to call
(20:04):
it, not explaining it for 10minutes for my major ego, death
experience on November 11th 2023.
From then, I've read a lot, soI've just been super curious.
Yeah, my curiosity level hasjust went through the roof.
Explode, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Explode.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Explode, exploded.
So I'm on, like I don't know,25, 26 books.
I'm just like constantlyconsuming.
And out of all this I think forme I've personally articulated
kind of the whole picture of thething, right, and that is
(20:40):
there's trauma, right.
Trauma spreads us, spreads ourmind out right when we're
fragmented.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
And then when we do mental work then that
defragments and kind of pulls usback in alignment to what our
body.
So now that I've done 12 monthsand that's not going to stop
it's not like I'm going to stopdoing the mental work and start
doing the body work yeah, justto continue to even go deeper.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
To integrate the physical.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, I want to do both mind and body work this
year and really push myselfphysically like I was able to
push myself mentally last year.
Yeah, and that's where it wasjust like bro.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
There's a.
I imagine doing these kind ofbigger challenges for physical
helps you confront other things.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
That all it all kind of adds to the, to the same
machine here of us being aperson.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
You know it's.
It all adds to the portrait.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Each brush stroke or whatever.
However you want to put theshit, it doesn't matter.
If you're confronting a massiverace, yeah, you know that's
going to help you confront maybesomething you don't want to do
car, a hard conversation.
Yeah, being real with yourself.
Yeah, maybe I don't want to dothis business or I don't want
this whatever.
(22:08):
Yeah, doesn't matter.
Yeah, in search situation.
I mean it all, it's all onesystem.
So yeah it's increasing thatlevel of confront in a new way.
Yeah, and you know, testingyourself.
Yeah, why not, why not?
There's really no reason not to.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I mean, we have these bodies.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I don't have to.
I mean I don't want to.
I don't want to destroy myselfto where I'm mangled.
Yeah, Okay, it's not about that.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
But I don't have to die in pristine condition.
Yeah, you know it's okay if I'ma little, you know I want to
use the body.
Yeah, you know, not necessarilyborderline crippled by the time
I'm 65.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Not like that.
Yeah, but you get what I'msaying.
Well, that goes both ways right, like inactivity Same thing
Inactivity is, you're alsodestroying your body yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
So yeah, but you know , I guess I'm not going to start
whatever playing football with.
Yeah, yeah, anyway, yeah, youknow what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Boxing without helmet , yeah, headgear, yeah, 100%
Right.
And that's I mean we talkedabout.
The body keeps the score,because that was a book I was
reading last year, yeah, andthat was pretty eye-opening for
me.
And my friend just sent anotherbook about the body and our
(23:37):
relationship to the body and ourmind, and so I'm pretty excited
to read that.
But I mean, you know, I mean Iwas Last year when I learned
that you know, a lot of themental game we think is like
somewhere in our head that weevolved into right, so we kind
of forget that our body storestrauma, you know, yeah, and the
(24:03):
best.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
So basically the whole body is a storage unit.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, for everything For everything, yeah, and every
cell has capacity to store.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
That's why you have random memories come up and you
know massage therapy.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I do.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, could be completely benign memory.
It could be so random, nottotally neutral.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But, it'll just it's absolutely wild, yeah, and so
yeah.
So that's so now what thatlooks like for us on the Focus
Cast is and I want to recordmore outside Like I had the
random idea of like us doingthis in the woods- yeah.
(24:43):
And it just technicallyrequires some work.
But like Friday we went andhiked.
So I came in on Thursday and Iwas like bro.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
This is torture.
Let's change it up.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Let's change it up, forget everything that we just
decided that we were going to do.
Yeah, and let's just go nutsphysically, let's go do some
challenging things in the futureand let's just film more
outside.
Let's just get it more outside,yeah.
And I mean, if you look at oursocial feeds, like if you look
at TikTok, it's literally thisprofile for like 10,000 clips.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
So we'll see more of us outside and just more of our
personality and more of ourindividuality and stuff like
that.
Yeah, versus two dudes in astudio, which is Two white dudes
in a studio, is.
There's plenty of that, there'splenty of that content in the
world, so, and there's plenty ofcontent of.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Two white dudes in the woods.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
But, that's just there's not enough, whatever.
Anyway, yeah, keep going, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
So for us getting outside doing these challenging
things, and then I'm still ourdesire to include founders,
serve founders, all that kind ofstuff.
That won't change, in fact,before the hike on Friday
morning, because if anyone knowsme personally, they know that
(26:08):
I'll text them and be like hey,what are you doing right now?
You want to go on a hike, yeah,or you want to go on a weekend
trip, and.
But I called like 10 people.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And I was like we're going to a hike, we're going to
do Pine Mountain five times4,000 feet elevation.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
It's 10 minutes down the road and I was just like you
want to join me it's a shorthike, but we're just going to do
it up and down.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, over and over again, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Five times and two people came out.
So I'm going to keep doing that.
I'm just going to invite peopleout Technically.
A third Because Carter showedup.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Oh, that's right.
Carter showed up at the lasttime.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah, so three people .
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
And that was just.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
And just think, by the end of 2024, we'll send them
mass texts.
We might have 30 people.
Yeah, and that's the kind ofshit I want.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
You know why not?
Why not?
Because, I mean, maybe we'vetalked about this before, but we
had our friend out, chad.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
We were on one of the four runner gunner trips and we
rode.
Gosh, how much do we ride onthat one?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
20 something miles.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, 20 something miles and we're eating some
amazing food steak sandwichesAfter a cold plunge, after a
cold plunge.
And Chad was like you know,he's a busy dude with kids, a
family.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
And he's like what'd?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I say I haven't.
This is one of the bestweekends I've had in 10 years.
That physical release and Ithink this is a little different
for guys Not saying women don'tget the amazing sensation, but
there is something where youalmost Maybe you can do it in
other ways, bro, that I don'tknow about, but there's
something very Well yeah, I canthink of some, but you know what
(27:49):
I mean there's something aboutthat physical release.
I don't want to say it'sabsolutely necessary, but it
damn sure feels good to do abike ride and a cold plunge and
you just finally feel likeyourself.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, you know We've mastered.
Well, I won't say we'vemastered, but we've got the best
ingredients and that'sphysically riding until we can't
anymore, doing a cold plungeand then making an epic meal
from scratch, and then sittingby a fire and eating it.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
You know what I realized about it.
It makes a really good mountainbiking trip is usually the
first like 70% of it is amazing.
And the last 30% you're almost,you're ready to be done.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But that 30% actually makes it better because, you
forced yourself to keep going.
I'm just now realizing that, aswe're talking about it, yeah,
and that's what makes the coldplunge so great.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Because for me I mean usually my back starts hurting
when we do these long, longrides and it's rocky.
My back starts hurtingsomething you know, or my If
we're going downhill my wrist,my arms and all that.
And then I start to crave, likewhen we went to a chickapee and
my legs locked up.
And then I crave the coldplunge, because the cold plunge
(29:10):
makes all that pain go away.
It literally disappears.
And then after the cold plunge,we haven't eaten all day, minus
a couple of snacks, because youand I both don't eat breakfast.
So we've done 20 miles, 30miles.
Haven't eaten but a couple ofsnacks, drank a ton of water,
got the cold plunge and then weeat an epic meal.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
That is the perfect formula.
It really is.
So, all that to be said, weheard it from Chad.
Yeah, it was a great weekend.
He needed it.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, he literally needed it and that was the
immediate feedback that we gotRight.
That felt great Right.
And then some guy that hadn'tbeen on a four-runner gunner
trip he went on one of thembefore but a guy that two
totally different circles he'snot in the studio all day on a
podcast talking about focus cameout, hung out with us and had a
(30:05):
great time Went out.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
The point is let's expand on that and keep going,
let's do more of that.
So 30 people out on the hike.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Why not?
Why not?
There's no reason not to invitethem.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, crazy hikes, insane Skydiving.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, squirrel suits down the mountain.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Is that physically?
I mean, I guess that pumps alot of adrenaline, yeah, but
yeah, so that's 2024.
So we're just going to get alot of outside footage randomly.
Yeah, get a tracker progressand post-progress on social like
.
On Friday we started at 10o'clock, we did.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I want to be able to hike 25 miles and not feel like
I'm dying.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
And not flat either.
Some elevation.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
We did for our first hike in this journey.
We did 12 miles, 4,000 feetelevation in four and a half
hours.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Pretty much power walked it too, yeah, we power
walked.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Four hours, 12 miles, I mean 4,000 feet elevation is
not nothing.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, it's not like we're not pioneers.
Yeah, but it doesn't matter,it's a starting point.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
It's January, yeah, so we're going to keep doing
that hike when we can't ride andwe're going to add sandbags so
get up to 50 pounds and be ableto do that yeah, either more
times up and down or wait, andeventually both.
Yeah, and then Monday ortomorrow we're going to do.
I think the most we've done onthe mountain bike is like 26
(31:42):
miles in a day, I think.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Something like that, because Mulberry, we did 26 and
then 16 the next day.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Okay yeah, and that was pretty physically demanding
because we did that mile and ahalf hike in bike situation
Lifting the 30 pound bike over40 logs, 40 fallen trees yeah,
that was a huge pain in the ass.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
But so tomorrow's goal it's January 10th tomorrow,
I think, or whatever.
The race is in August, Right?
I think it's like August 15thand the race is 360 ish miles,
35,000 feet of elevation.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
So we have to be able to get to the point where we
can do 70 miles in a day, alittle over 70, like 71 point,
something a day for 350,.
I think it's 357 miles.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yeah, in five days yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Right, that's the math, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Something like that.
So now we're starting.
We started training on Fridaywith a hike and then tomorrow.
Our goal is 30 miles, which islike five 10 minute breaks at
each 10 mile mark and hit 30miles.
And our terrain here is goingto is more difficult when we
train, which is good becauseit's more single track elevation
(33:01):
versus the race itself is a lotof gravel.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
A lot of gravel but a lot of climbing.
Yeah, a lot of climbing, a lotof climbing, which our friend
Clay he's a freak who likes toclimb.
Yeah, and he just like and hisbike weighs like four ounces,
yeah, and so he just flies upthe hills, yeah, like literally
flies up them.
So, we got to get to that pointwhere climbing is easy.
(33:27):
Yeah, and it is easy for shortperiods of time.
Yeah, and you know I we're notdoing like a 10 mile climb.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yeah no-transcript.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Easily for fun.
Yeah, that's just not somethingI do, yeah, but we need to make
.
We need to get to the pointwhere we can do 10 mile climb,
yeah, like without it feelinglike much.
Yeah, road bikers right now arelike Round bikers no stamina.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
So the other thing I want to try, bro, so I've told
you I want to do Tai Chi yeah.
What the reason I'm interestedin Tai Chi is because of the
full range of movement andstretching that you get in Tai
Chi and it's also verymeditative practice.
So it's kind of the reason I'venever done Tai Chi.
(34:21):
This is just my assumption,based on looking at people do it
, but based on the movements.
It's very flowy, which I like.
It's very stretchy, which I need, and yeah and it's a lot of
balance work, so it kind ofincorporates balance yeah
meditation and Range of motion.
(34:41):
It's great.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
So what I did, tai Chi, is amazing.
It only takes about 10 yearsfor it to really feel natural
for you.
Yeah, no, tai Chi is.
I've only done a handful oftimes too.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
What it was the same Ten years from now.
I'll be really glad I startedtoday.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah, damn right, oh, I love it because it's about
moving energy.
Yeah you know, for some peoplethey're gonna be like what the
hell is that even mean?
But whatever, yeah, moving theenergy, the Chi, to the body.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
It's great, yeah.
What's timing?
No idea.
T H I.
I don't know why is the firsttie I, in the second I just II
Tai Chi, anyway, whatever.
So, yeah, I want to add thatSome Tai Chi, and then I want to
(35:34):
.
I really want to get a personaltrainer to work on core and
upper body strength, just tojust to yell at me and make me
do 50 push-ups.
Yeah, upper body.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, my upper body, it needs some love.
Yeah, you know years ofmountain biking.
I'm not saying like, my legsare Trunks trunks but their way
is not balanced.
My legs are.
I'm way have way more strengthand stamina with my Doing leg
workouts than I do upper body.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, you got them thunder thighs thunder thighs
yeah and then.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I've been kind of known for the calves, calf daddy
, yeah, but you know, withmartial arts it's not all.
I mean, yeah, your leg strength, actually what it?
When you lose your legs, youlose your life.
Yeah, it is important becauseyour legs are everything.
It's how you get around.
But I Need to work on someupper body strength and
(36:24):
definitely core.
I've been avoiding corestrength basically my whole life
.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, cuz I.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
I don't like sit-ups.
Yeah, cuz it makes my back hurt.
Yeah, when you say it like that, it makes you sound like a 10
year old.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
It makes my back here .
Speaker 2 (36:39):
I don't like sit-ups Well and these are the things
that you realize, like I've beenavoiding this for too long.
Yeah, that's time to just youknow, the things that are easy
are easy now.
Yeah, it is easy to go mountainbiking.
Yeah it's not easy to doscissor kicks.
Yeah for, you know, for 10minutes, so we can keep doing
the easy shit.
(36:59):
For the rest, of our lives andbe the exact same person and
never learn and Just live in theloop.
Yeah, and that's fine if youwant to do that.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Yeah, I just I realized now what I've been
avoiding a lot of things, yeah,and this is one of them yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
So upper body shake, I want to be able to do 100
push-ups to yeah and like onesitting.
Yeah, right now I can maybe dolike 30.
Yeah, so Pull ups and that'syeah in one sitting, but also
multiple times too, if I reallyneed to.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, she can do things that we want to do.
The.
If I'm stuck in a hole and Ican't even pull myself out,
that's not good.
It's not good.
The other thing is If there's50 zombies behind me.
Yeah and there's a lake infront of me.
I'm not a good long-distanceswim.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I've been avoiding swimming basically my whole life
too.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Yeah, I'm not great at it.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah, I'm just saying it right now.
Me too, I am a slow,inefficient Dog, shit swimmer.
Yeah me too at the moment.
Yeah not forever remember thegrowth mindset.
That's right and that needs tochange as well.
Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Mean almost drown when I was a kid so always
blamed it on that.
I mean I can swim.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I can swim too.
Yeah, I mean I can limp aroundin the water.
Yeah, I don't know if I callswimming, but yeah.
I can Swim from one side of thepool to the other, yeah, I can
do what?
30 yards, yeah.
And then I'm like Getting readyto stop.
I don't know how to float.
I Feel like I just sink.
Yeah, me too, even.
(38:38):
I do all the things you'resupposed to do, so this is great
.
Yeah this is something we'veboth been avoiding as well.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
That'd be funny if us brothers took swimming lessons.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, well then, that then we can do the triathlon.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I basically rode off triathlons my as long as I've
been doing physical activitybecause of swimming me too,
because I'm like I just like Ican't.
This is the things you tellyourself.
The scripts.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I can't swim.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, I Just haven't learned how to be more efficient
at it yet yet yet yeah, I meanI'm gonna do is take lessons.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
There's got to be some technique.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
I didn't know how to edit Everything.
I know how to do.
I didn't know how to do at somepoint.
Yeah, so you know, it's justthat simple.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
You know, I've always been good at eating Oreos.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
You didn't have to learn how to do that, that just
came naturally.
I.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Mean, I don't know.
Kids choke on stuff, so I guessI learned how to swallow at
some point.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
So, yeah, that's exciting, bro, learn how to swim
.
Yeah, for some.
For some reason, I want to takedance lessons.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Why not?
You know, elizabeth can.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Samba around.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Samba around.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Spice it up, spice it up, spice it up.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, nice how long we been rambling.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
nice 38 minutes, so Anything else so we're just
gonna keep honestly, now it's,it's.
I mean, we've said this, I'llsay it again.
This has been more of a journalfor us, which is great, yeah,
and so we're gonna journal thisnext phase, which is Setting
some physical goals.
The 360 mile race is the biggoal for the year.
It's gonna take a lot oftraining and so we're gonna
(40:20):
start training for that.
We're gonna do that.
I think.
If I can, I'm gonna hirePhotographers and videographers
to go out with us to capturethat.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Moment and if you want to go out and try it, it's
the T and GA.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
T and GA, if you want to hop in with us, yeah, that'd
be killer.
I want us to.
By the time it's, we'reapproaching it because it seems
I'm not, I wouldn't say scared,but apprehensive.
Yeah you know I understand thetask at hand.
Yeah, to a degree.
Yeah, you know, it's not likeall high-fives, like it's gonna
(40:57):
be sick.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, I'm a little nervous.
I'm a little nervous.
Yeah, my gooch is nervous.
My gooch is way nervous.
It's the most nervous thing.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
It's my, my gooch is my gooch is terrifying.
I got those gooch bumps, yeahso, but by the time we get there
to where it's, you're notreally you're just it feels like
you, you conditioned.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
You feel prepared?
That's the word.
Yeah, yeah, not like a fish outof water.
Yeah so, and I think Justhaving this goal in August and
the amount of conditioning we'regonna do by the time we get
there will be completelydifferent, oh my gosh completely
different people yeah, soanyway it's great.
(41:41):
It's great.
It seems like a good time frameand a good goal, a nice
Something to work towards.
Yeah, that's.
It seems Intimidating enough.
Yeah that's what I realized.
I don't really ever setintimidating goals for myself
ever yeah.
You know those people who dothat.
Yeah one after the other.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
I've avoided, I've been comfortable.
Let's just call it what it is.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
I've been sitting in comfort for my whole life.
That's.
We're just really good down tothe meat potatoes here.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
It's just that simple , so I Don't want to sit in
comfort only in the words of thewarehouse staff at the office
You've been living your cushylittle nerf life.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yes, wow, let's see if I can Wiggle my way out of
the comfy you know thecomfortable, whatever bed I've
made for myself.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, Well, I think, for I've set aggressive business
goals and financial goals andall that kind of stuff, and I'm
that kind of that.
That kind of life is whatAnnoyed me right in therapy.
That's what I'm not doinganymore, like, like you know,
constantly was like this has gotto work, it's got to work.
So for me, it's verytherapeutic To where now in
(43:02):
business, I'm honestly just likeWhatever I'm, I am I and I've
asked myself over the pastcouple of weeks Is it true?
Is it gonna come back?
Because I've obsessed overentrepreneurialism and trying to
be successful as anentrepreneur and a business
person most of my adult life.
(43:23):
Yeah, and and Now I'm just like, if I have to get a job, I have
to get a job if this businessworks.
If it doesn't, I'll try anotherone, like I.
Honestly, it feels so good tonot give a fuck.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
But I feel like that's what being an
entrepreneur is.
I, I, will see.
I mean, it's the first timeI've ever been almost like the
mindset is I'll do whatever Ihave to do in this moment, but I
know that there's moreopportunities.
Almost like entrepreneurmindset is you see opportunities
more than seeing, than limitingthem.
(44:03):
Yeah, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
So that's We'll, see.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
For me anyway.
Yeah, we'll see if, if notbeing so focused on it has to
work, makes it actually workmore.
We'll see, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Who knows?
Because there's all the youknow half of the internet.
I don't know half, but a lot ofthe internet is just like the
grind culture stuff.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah, yeah, it might not work now because I don't
care.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
And that that's almost honestly.
That's a whole otherconversation.
Yeah, because it's like do youforce yourself to make it work
even though you want to die?
Yeah, because that's what ittakes.
Yeah, you just work onsomething that feels lighter to
your, to your spirit.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
And you can actually work harder on it without
feeling like you're dying.
I'd rather work hard onsomething that doesn't make me
feel like I'm dying.
Yeah, so it doesn't feel thathard, yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
So Well, I think the big question there and again,
this is a whole another episodethat we can do one day in the
woods if we want but why does ithave to work?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
You know, yeah, what, what is it working even.
What does that even mean?
Speaker 3 (45:20):
It worked.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah, it worked.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yeah, it could.
Yeah, what does that even meanit?
Speaker 2 (45:24):
worked.
Oh, I'm a.
I made a million dollars Everyperson I've ever met.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
That got to a point.
All they were doing wasobsessing about the next point.
Yeah, so what does it work?
Even mean when every singleperson I've ever worked with
they met a goal and they'realready in the next goal.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Yeah, oh, we're profitable.
Oh, it's the next, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
More money, more profit, oh, it's a million in
revenue.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Oh, it's two.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
And it's five and then 10.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
It's like more employees more this so yeah,
what is it worked.
Quote yeah, it worked.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, and though Instagram may make you believe
it, multi-millionaires doesn'tautomatically mean that they're
just happy.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
So whatever, I think it's not really about the
outcome.
Being tied to outcomes is notthe best thing to do.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
But this rant for me was saying that I'm excited to
have a physical goal becauseI've never had a physical goal
before my life Same same and thephysical goal we are setting
out to do the race.
We will go do the race, thenthe race will be over.
Yeah, these intangibles, youknow all that kind of stuff.
(46:41):
Yeah, it's nice to, I don'tcare how many.
I honestly am completelyremoved from this content.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yeah, like if it doesn't have to be, if it
doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
If we decide to stop doing it next week, I don't care
anymore.
Same, I just don't care.
Yeah, we're doing a podcastright now, today's episode
because we felt like it.
This feels way better.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yeah, honestly, I'm having more fun on this episode
than I've damn near had in thelot yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
So, so that I don't know.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
if we're providing value, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Doesn't matter.
We felt like sitting down anddoing an episode, so we did.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
So you know I don't care, but I'm with you.
I've never, never, done thephysical goal.
I think this is a great placeto start.
Yeah, so we'll see you guys inAugust, that's right.
It will be cool to track theprogress.
Yeah, so if you're interestedin joining, joining our journey.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Well, I got a little nervous when we did our hike on
Friday because it was a shorthike 12 miles.
We ride 20 plus miles.
We kill ourselves on the bike.
I'm not sore the next day.
Yes, I did a 12 mile hike,which isn't that long 4000 feet
elevation, that's not nothing.
But I was sore for three daysafterwards.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
And I was like damn.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
I guess I'm worked to do.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
And I've done.
Yeah, my knees started hurting.
This let's just call it what itis too.
Sometimes my knees it's notpain, but it feels a little
wonky when I'm mountain biking357 miles.
What happens?
What happens on day four?
What happens on the fifth day?
When you've done 70 miles a day?
(48:21):
What does your knee feel like?
These are things I don't know.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
I have not been there .
Speaker 2 (48:25):
You know and there's, you know, the what's it called,
the ultra, ultra runners andthese mega athletes.
You know, some people are youkind of there, have more
experience here.
I don't.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
I've never felt this shit.
Yeah, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Yeah, I really want to get one of the someone on the
on the podcast and talk to himabout that, Please Like.
How do you?
We need a couple, yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
You know cause.
I did a 70 mile ride on a roadbike on pavement and my knee was
starting to feel a little goofy.
Yeah, you know I could in mytaint.
Yeah, it's building that, that,that sitting stamina on the
bike.
Yeah, so there's going to be awhole number of things that we
have to figure out.
Yeah, socks underwear.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Shoes, drinks, food.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Yeah, pace, pace, and it's, it's, you know.
That's why it's the.
I don't want to.
I mean, maybe perfect is notthe right word, but it's a great
goal.
Yeah, because it's scary enough, it's intimidating enough, yeah
, and it's going to push usenough and we're going to have
to learn quite a bit.
Yeah, and it's not like, okay,I want to ride whatever 100
(49:36):
miles in two days, like it's notsomething, it's a big chunk bro
.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
I'm kind of nervous now that we're talking about it,
so yeah, what happens when yourknees like feeling blown out?
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Yeah, I don't know, I want to ask people after 150
miles yeah, you still have 200to go.
Yeah, you know what about what?
What?
What wrist pain?
I mean, we're talking aboutbeing on a bike.
You know, you think about yourass, you think about your legs.
What about your wrist?
Speaker 3 (50:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
What about my neck?
Speaker 2 (50:06):
What about your neck?
Speaker 1 (50:07):
When I do those long stuff and there's a lot of rocks
.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
What happens on the lower back?
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Oh, the last one we did my back was just like
cailing me.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
And so this is what conditioning conditioning is
going to flush out these thingsand see what happens to the body
.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
You know, and then we're going to go to our experts
and we're going to tell themwhat's happening to our body and
they're going to tell us whatto do.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
They're going to say don't sit on a bike for nine
hours straight and ride 100miles in one day.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
They're like don't do the least ergonomical thing,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
So in those are the things you can only find out by
us just putting in a bunch ofmiles and see how our bodies
react.
Yeah, so I mean I'm 34 andyou're 41.
41.
Yeah, so great.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Our aunt, I mean cousin Stephanie.
Yeah, she played a lot ofsports and she totally blew out
her knee, had to have a surgery,had multiple surgeries.
We were hiking one day at astate park, because our family
does state parks every year, andyou know she was talking a
little bit about her knee.
I think it was our sister, Thea, I think.
(51:24):
Anyway, I was just in thisconversation and Thea said to
her like how do you deal with it?
And her immediate response wasjust just deal with it.
But she's been an athlete.
She was an athlete for so longand she's always stayed physical
.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Right.
So that's just the mentality,that's the mentality it's like,
just deal with it.
And that's probably what peoplewho have been, who have more
experience here, are probablysaying right now Like you just
keep going, you just keep going.
You say, oh, that's a weirdsensation in my knee and just
keep on riding.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Yeah, it's not it's not if your back's going to hurt
or if your knee is going tohurt, it's just when.
It's just when you just keepgoing, I guess yeah.
You're going to quit, you'regoing to keep going.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Well, when you're in the middle of nowhere, too,
that's true.
Where are you going to go?
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Yeah, because that from North Carolina to Alabama
and North Georgia there's some,there's some pockets of no even
if you wanted to quit, you'regoing to have to hike 10 miles.
10 miles to the next road.
Yeah, Like quitting is hiking10 miles to the next road.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
At that point, miles just keep going.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
Miles will keep going .
Speaker 2 (52:38):
Miles will hike up the next hill, so anyway, all
right.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
That's it.
That's it, episode 101.
Episode 101.
Let's get physical, physical,let's get physical Physical.
Welcome to episode 101 of the Focus Cast.
Very nice, bro, a lot haschanged.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yes, it has.
Yeah, we started off with theFocus Cast.
This will be a quick recap.
Getting drunk in my roomrecording about random subjects
yeah, that was phase one.
Phase one.
Phase two A little bit lessdrinking.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah, I mean, I would say, phase two was from episode
one to episode 100 was ourjournal.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Basically.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
We set out to increase our focus.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And through that we found absolute transformation.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
So here's what happens when you listen to
podcasts and try and learn newinformation and expand your well
of knowledge and just kind ofgrow every day doing this for a
podcast, even if no one listensto it.
The growth you gain from thatis really the most important
(01:02):
part.
It wasn't even really about thelisteners.
I mean it wasn't about having abunch of listeners.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Which is what everyone says when they don't
have a lot of listeners.
How about this?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We grew enough to where I'm OK with the fact that
we still don't have manylisteners.
There you go, boom.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
That's the way to say it, there we go.
Yeah, our personal growth wasso significant in the past two
years that who cares?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, so phase three, phase three, so we introduce
ourselves oh yeah, I'm Jonathan.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Noel and I'm Brian Noel, and this is the FocusCast
when we help founders reducedistractions, increase focus so
we can live a life withintention.
Yep, so yeah, that was phaseone.
Phase two, and on Instagram Iwrote the shift in internal
scripts from my therapy work.
(02:01):
So I thought this would be agood way to kind of close out
phase two recap, which is we gotdialed in, bro.
We set up the office here inKennesaw, got a new podcast
studio, a bunch of new equipmentand really worked on the art of
podcasting, and then you and I,both kind of individually, went
(02:25):
really deep on just increasingour mental focus and whatever we
want to call it.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, whatever, yeah, our just awareness in the
health space Transformation iskind of overused now.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, well yeah, but we can just say it's been very
good I feel different.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I feel different too, today than I did on January
2022.
2023.
, 2023.
And going back and listening tothe old episodes, I mean they
were pretty funny because we'rejust giggling.
You know there's nervouslaughter.
We're saying things and justlaughing.
(03:04):
I don't know what that's likefor the listener.
I don't know if that'sobnoxious or if it's.
You know they're giggling withus, charming, yeah, I don't know
.
Or if it's like I can barelylisten to this and this is awful
, but that was us easing intothis, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And then we got into some good subjects, like when I
had some milestone moments.
We got into disassociation.
We got into the internal familysystems.
Fear Talked a lot about fearlast year, but man, wow, what a
transformation, no doubt.
So here are some scripts thatin 2023 are changed.
(03:48):
So when I say script, what Imean by that is a mental,
internal narrative, nice, so acore belief at the subconscious
level that I wasn't aware of OKand you had some scripts change
last year.
Yeah, so first one you shouldhate.
So one thing that was I wasstruggling with.
(04:10):
I'm not someone who just hatespeople or hates things, but I
hated the government, I hatedthe globalist, I hated a lot of
things and I just had a lot ofinternal hate subconsciously
that I didn't really know wasthere.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, and I hated myself.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
So the new script is to hate externally is a
reflection of hate internally.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
The good and bad in the world is just a projection
of the good and bad that I amcapable of what is it?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
as above, so below.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, I've never heard that before, but I like
that.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Basically, whatever's going on on the outside for you
is really a reflection of howyou feel on the inside.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah.
So what I can honestly say andI'm sure, as I read these, it's
very important to say thesearen't like I flipped a switch,
these are just new scripts thatnow, when I hit triggers or
experience tough times, I get tonow lean into the new script,
yeah, and not be unaware of thesubconscious and just freak out
(05:11):
Right.
So the second one is the worldis ending.
I spent a lot of time and a lotof hours, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
On the old.
Instagram experience eCornerBig time, where everything and
even though most things are ascam and things of that nature,
there is a lot to ponder.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Let's say, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well, here's my new script.
What's the new script?
You ready for this?
It always has been, and I'm notof this physical world anyway,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
The world's been ending since it started Yep.
For someone, somewhere, or somereason or another, it's felt
like their world was ending.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And that's.
Maybe it's by design or not.
It depends on who you'retalking to.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
But yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
A lot of fear and certainty and doubt pumped into
the collective consciousness tokeep people in that state.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Anyway, yeah, but the new script.
I'm not of this physical worldanyway.
The fear of the world ending isfear of losing myself.
Before I found myself Like theworld can't end.
I don't even know who I am yetyou know.
But now it's like I'm not ofthis physical world, like it
(06:34):
doesn't matter.
This really doesn't matter, andhere's what's so wild I don't
spend.
First of all, I did a majoroverhaul in my social feeds to
where I'm not just constantly inthe algorithms getting fear
porn.
Same.
I had to unfollow or do no.
So now, if before I would spendhours watching that shit, now
(06:56):
if I just get five minutes of it, I'm just like nope.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Not today.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
It's amazing.
It's way better.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
What is the quick thing?
From what did TG say?
The what she focused on getsbigger.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
So if you only focus on, the world is ending, your
world is ending Literally.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Because you're letting it consume you.
Yeah, until you die of a panicattack.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
OK.
The next one is this businessmust succeed.
It's got to succeed.
I've got to make it work.
I've got to make it workbecause my value is tied into
that.
But here's the new script.
I will be curious and creativeforever.
However that plays out, Yep.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
There's plenty of businesses to start Plenty yeah,
plenty of projects.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
There's plenty of ideas.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, it doesn't have to do anything.
Yeah, yep, that's when you'remore tied to the outcome than
the actual work.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, and what's great is that's been tested.
That one's been tested for thepast couple of like two months.
Yeah, because some things aretaken a little longer or not
working, and I'm literally inthe moment I'm just like You're
not upset about that.
I'm just like I'm never reallyupset about that.
No, it's pretty well.
The next one is be present withyour family, because that's
(08:08):
your job.
That's the script.
That was the manager in theinternal family system.
The new script is I am nowherebut where I am, yeah, I don't
have to tell myself to bepresent.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I am present.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yep, I don't have to manage my presence.
I'm present, and that's verynew for me.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, like that's moving past this association.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, that's a big one.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
It's a different reality for you, oh my gosh, I
love it.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
You are inadequate to provide for the future.
So you know we talked aboutthis quite a bit If you obsess
and disassociation, if youobsess over the future, you're
anxious.
If you obsess over the past,you're depressed.
I didn't do enough.
I'm not doing enough For me.
I lived in that.
I'm not doing enough.
So the new script is there isno future.
The future doesn't exist.
It's pretty simple, huh?
(08:59):
I fed my family today.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I mean, the future is not determined.
Yeah, there's no guarantee thatit will be there.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, I mean it literally doesn't exist.
The only thing that exists isright now.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, so you can obsess about it's basically like
the boogeyman.
Yeah, it really is, you knowAnyway.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, you are dead.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, you thought you were dead inside.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I felt dead inside.
So this was a big one.
My existence is completelyseparate from my father's desire
for me to exist, so I still wasattached to this need for my
father to need me to be alive,and whether he did or not, that
didn't even matter.
It didn't even matter, but Idetached from that.
That one was a good old resthall.
I remember that day.
(09:51):
The next one is you are cursed,yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
So I think you remember these.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I think that there's probably a decent amount of
people who have this script.
Yeah, yeah, I am cursed.
I think they're cursed becausethey always hit the red light.
They always do this, it nevergoes right.
They always get the parkingticket.
Things like that.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Get the bad partner, get the bad business partner,
get the bad friendship, get thebad boss.
So the new script is God didnot sacrifice me to Satan.
Oh, I thought that it's funny.
It's not like I was walkingaround, like you didn't think
that.
Yeah, I wasn't consciouslythinking.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
That you were sacrificed.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I'm some heavy, deep EMDR and therapy work.
I realized that I thought Godleft me for Satan in the crib
when I was about six months old.
I went back to that space,anyway, but he did not, and he
was there all along.
And he's there.
The creator is always there.
(10:57):
Yeah, it's nice.
Yeah, it's really nice.
Yeah, that's a big difference.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Unconditional love is way better than abandonment
yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yes, yes, alright, this is the last one.
You're ready for this?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
You're gonna love this.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Okay, masculinity is managing misery without fucking
up.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, that's the hell with script to carry.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
How many men can relate to that?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I mean, that's a heavy script to carry around all
the time.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I mean, I'm gonna read it one more time.
Masculine, I like how many Ms.
It was too Masculine.
And again, these weren't likethings I was saying in my
conscious.
These are things that I learned, that were buried deep in my
subconscious, internal scripts.
Masculinity is managing miserywithout fucking up.
Yeah, and my new script that Iwrote here is nope.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Nope Wrong.
That's not true.
That's not true.
That's simply not true.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Masculinity is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, you heard it here, folks.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Masculinity is magnificent.
So that's just a small taste ofyou know.
I've been kind of, you know,the holidays and I had some time
and so I've just been kind ofreflecting on the last year and
some of the awesome, incrediblemilestones that I've been so, so
, so fortunate to yeah, To hitor go through.
That's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Imagine what 2024 is gonna do.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, it's, I wrote in my.
It was in preparing for my lasttherapy session in January.
So the new year, I said howdoes one celebrate or plan for a
new year when time doesn'texist?
That was my first line andthat's what we'll talk about
today, because it's reallyinteresting that in our phase
(12:46):
three of the focus cast, it'snot really because it's 2020.
Yeah, in 2024, we just kind ofnaturally fell into this.
Every 50 episodes is when wejust decide to move into
whatever's next.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
It's like 50 episodes is a nice sprint.
It's a decent cycle, yeah, notto mention every winter.
It seems like when it's winterand you're inside a lot and
you're just sitting thereplugging away on a computer, you
start to realize what youdespise and what you don't want
to do with your time.
Yeah, so I don't.
(13:22):
We're in a dungeon right now.
Let's be real.
There's no windows, yeah,concrete walls, yeah, and it's
tough.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
This wall that you're seeing right here is ground.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
That's literally earth behind that concrete wall,
so we are 12 feet under.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Literally it feels like it sometimes.
We're deeper than a grave bro,a grave of our own design.
But that's not to say thishasn't been a great opportunity.
And we haven't learned ashitload of things this year,
last year, it's balanced right,right.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So how did this happen?
So now talking about the nextphase, right?
So what happened?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well, we bounced a couple of things off of each
other, but I was like I'm notreally seeing the value.
Yeah, we don't really have anaudience.
Yeah, you know, there's no onesaying like, maybe there are
there, yeah, we don't have.
I wasn't feeling the feedbacklike, hey, no feedback at all.
(14:26):
So I wasn't really feeling thevalue.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, and doing any of it yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
It's one thing.
I get a personal trainer.
I get anyone.
Yeah, if you're doing somethingand people are like, hey, this
is great, thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I received something from this.
Yeah, and I get it.
It's not like we expected thatto happen after two months.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I was reaching that point, though, because it had
been a couple years yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
And I think that's totally fine.
Yeah, and then we're alsoinside a lot, yeah.
So when I brought that up andthen you're like I don't want to
be, you brought up the we needto go on a hike or something.
How did you word?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
it.
I want to destroy myselfphysically.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
It kind of started to .
This was so kind of timelinewise.
So at the end of last year Iwas like I've got this whole
series for founders and I do.
I still have it but themotivation and the desire to
fully write out that, make sureit's of quality and deliver,
that I was like Felt liketorture.
(15:38):
Felt like torture, yeah, andthis was Thursday, so we had
planned on doing it but we kindof pushed it off.
Planned on doing it, kind ofpushed it off, got Really made
some cool music that we're goingto release over the Right
before the Christmas break.
So we just really had some funon some music.
And then it was Thursday lastweek.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
And today's Monday.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
And today's Monday, and I came in and I could see it
on your face that you were likeall right, bro, like previous,
last week we were talking aboutit and I was like we're gonna do
this for founders.
And I could see it on your faceYou're like I support you.
And then I was just like.
I came in and I was just like Ican't do it.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
It felt impossible.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Felt impossible.
And now, 12 months, I startedtherapy January 22, I think of
2023.
So I'm coming up on a year ofintense about 35 therapy
sessions breath work, all kindsof stuff.
Yeah, and something isabsolutely calling me to
(16:50):
physically go nuts, To justwreck the body To have some
physical challenges?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, because I've never.
I've never had those.
You know, there's people whoplan whatever their Iron Man's
or their yeah, 5ks or marathonsor whatever the hell they do
yeah, whatever it may be,whatever, I've never.
I've never had those kind ofgoals Me either.
I just do it.
I go on hikes.
I've been on a 20 mile hike,yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
We ride.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
We go mountain biking a lot, you know, and it's not
like we have to hit 100 miles,it's more like we just have to
have enough fun.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It's more like a fun meter.
It really is, but you know, Irealized I definitely had to do
the.
There's a 357 mile ride.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And, like you, were on board pretty much immediately
.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I think we're both going to do it no matter.
I want to do it, no matter whatyeah?
And I figured you were going todo that.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
So Well, it came up last year.
It came up last year, but itwasn't enough time to prep.
No, because we, because we'renot David Goggins yet but to
only have like a couple ofmonths to prepare for something
like that.
Well, we weren't mentally there, we weren't mentally ready.
Yeah, we didn't have thatmental.
I didn't have that mentalfortitude.
(18:03):
Yeah, I'm not saying I do, butI will, yeah, so we're doing a
357 mile bike ride across NorthGeorgia.
Yeah, it's going to be trailsand gravel.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, a lot of climbs 35,000 feet in elevation.
Try and do it in five minutes.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
That's how long the race is open.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
So in that comes conditioning.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Real conditioning.
I've never done, realconditioning.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Me either Didn't play sports in high school.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I've been physically active, yeah, racquetball,
mountain biking, hiking,whatever.
But I've never done likeconditioning with focus.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I've never done yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
And I've never, on top of that, a physical activity
where I'm crying because I hurtso bad, but I keep going.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I've never had that happen before.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Or yeah, you reached that point where your body's
screaming to quit, but you haveto keep going.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah, now I've been in my shed and I've cried
because I didn't want to.
I didn't want to, I didn't wantto do anything else in life,
but that was, that was mental.
I've never experienced thatphysically.
So it's time, it's time andhere's the way I, for me
personally, my coming to thisconclusion of, like phase three
(19:23):
is physical, physical time tokill ourselves physically is I
don't know, killing is prettyharsh, but yeah.
It's gonna feel like that,pushing past the body's
screaming.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yes, quick, quick, quick Right.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, for me it's a couple of things.
So this is, this is how I gotto this, since my significant.
I know people say ego death alot and that's fine.
All of these things mean verydifferent things to a lot of
different people right.
Everyone's experience is veryindividual.
So, yeah, anyway, but for thesake of whatever I want to call
(20:04):
it, not explaining it for 10minutes for my major ego, death
experience on November 11th 2023.
From then, I've read a lot, soI've just been super curious.
Yeah, my curiosity level hasjust went through the roof.
Explode, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Explode.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Explode, exploded.
So I'm on, like I don't know,25, 26 books.
I'm just like constantlyconsuming.
And out of all this I think forme I've personally articulated
kind of the whole picture of thething, right, and that is
(20:40):
there's trauma, right.
Trauma spreads us, spreads ourmind out right when we're
fragmented.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
And then when we do mental work then that
defragments and kind of pulls usback in alignment to what our
body.
So now that I've done 12 monthsand that's not going to stop
it's not like I'm going to stopdoing the mental work and start
doing the body work yeah, justto continue to even go deeper.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
To integrate the physical.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, I want to do both mind and body work this
year and really push myselfphysically like I was able to
push myself mentally last year.
Yeah, and that's where it wasjust like bro.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
There's a.
I imagine doing these kind ofbigger challenges for physical
helps you confront other things.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
That all it all kind of adds to the, to the same
machine here of us being aperson.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
You know it's.
It all adds to the portrait.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Each brush stroke or whatever.
However you want to put theshit, it doesn't matter.
If you're confronting a massiverace, yeah, you know that's
going to help you confront maybesomething you don't want to do
car, a hard conversation.
Yeah, being real with yourself.
Yeah, maybe I don't want to dothis business or I don't want
this whatever.
(22:08):
Yeah, doesn't matter.
Yeah, in search situation.
I mean it all, it's all onesystem.
So yeah it's increasing thatlevel of confront in a new way.
Yeah, and you know, testingyourself.
Yeah, why not, why not?
There's really no reason not to.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I mean, we have these bodies.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I don't have to.
I mean I don't want to.
I don't want to destroy myselfto where I'm mangled.
Yeah, Okay, it's not about that.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
But I don't have to die in pristine condition.
Yeah, you know it's okay if I'ma little, you know I want to
use the body.
Yeah, you know, not necessarilyborderline crippled by the time
I'm 65.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Not like that.
Yeah, but you get what I'msaying.
Well, that goes both ways right, like inactivity Same thing
Inactivity is, you're alsodestroying your body yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
So yeah, but you know , I guess I'm not going to start
whatever playing football with.
Yeah, yeah, anyway, yeah, youknow what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Boxing without helmet , yeah, headgear, yeah, 100%
Right.
And that's I mean we talkedabout.
The body keeps the score,because that was a book I was
reading last year, yeah, andthat was pretty eye-opening for
me.
And my friend just sent anotherbook about the body and our
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relationship to the body and ourmind, and so I'm pretty excited
to read that.
But I mean, you know, I mean Iwas Last year when I learned
that you know, a lot of themental game we think is like
somewhere in our head that weevolved into right, so we kind
of forget that our body storestrauma, you know, yeah, and the
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best.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
So basically the whole body is a storage unit.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, for everything For everything, yeah, and every
cell has capacity to store.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
That's why you have random memories come up and you
know massage therapy.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I do.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, could be completely benign memory.
It could be so random, nottotally neutral.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But, it'll just it's absolutely wild, yeah, and so
yeah.
So that's so now what thatlooks like for us on the Focus
Cast is and I want to recordmore outside Like I had the
random idea of like us doingthis in the woods- yeah.
(24:43):
And it just technicallyrequires some work.
But like Friday we went andhiked.
So I came in on Thursday and Iwas like bro.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
This is torture.
Let's change it up.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Let's change it up, forget everything that we just
decided that we were going to do.
Yeah, and let's just go nutsphysically, let's go do some
challenging things in the futureand let's just film more
outside.
Let's just get it more outside,yeah.
And I mean, if you look at oursocial feeds, like if you look
at TikTok, it's literally thisprofile for like 10,000 clips.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
So we'll see more of us outside and just more of our
personality and more of ourindividuality and stuff like
that.
Yeah, versus two dudes in astudio, which is Two white dudes
in a studio, is.
There's plenty of that, there'splenty of that content in the
world, so, and there's plenty ofcontent of.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Two white dudes in the woods.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
But, that's just there's not enough, whatever.
Anyway, yeah, keep going, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
So for us getting outside doing these challenging
things, and then I'm still ourdesire to include founders,
serve founders, all that kind ofstuff.
That won't change, in fact,before the hike on Friday
morning, because if anyone knowsme personally, they know that
(26:08):
I'll text them and be like hey,what are you doing right now?
You want to go on a hike, yeah,or you want to go on a weekend
trip, and.
But I called like 10 people.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And I was like we're going to a hike, we're going to
do Pine Mountain five times4,000 feet elevation.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
It's 10 minutes down the road and I was just like you
want to join me it's a shorthike, but we're just going to do
it up and down.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, over and over again, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Five times and two people came out.
So I'm going to keep doing that.
I'm just going to invite peopleout Technically.
A third Because Carter showedup.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Oh, that's right.
Carter showed up at the lasttime.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah, so three people .
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
And that was just.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
And just think, by the end of 2024, we'll send them
mass texts.
We might have 30 people.
Yeah, and that's the kind ofshit I want.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
You know why not?
Why not?
Because, I mean, maybe we'vetalked about this before, but we
had our friend out, chad.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
We were on one of the four runner gunner trips and we
rode.
Gosh, how much do we ride onthat one?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
20 something miles.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, 20 something miles and we're eating some
amazing food steak sandwichesAfter a cold plunge, after a
cold plunge.
And Chad was like you know,he's a busy dude with kids, a
family.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
And he's like what'd?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I say I haven't.
This is one of the bestweekends I've had in 10 years.
That physical release and Ithink this is a little different
for guys Not saying women don'tget the amazing sensation, but
there is something where youalmost Maybe you can do it in
other ways, bro, that I don'tknow about, but there's
something very Well yeah, I canthink of some, but you know what
(27:49):
I mean there's something aboutthat physical release.
I don't want to say it'sabsolutely necessary, but it
damn sure feels good to do abike ride and a cold plunge and
you just finally feel likeyourself.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, you know We've mastered.
Well, I won't say we'vemastered, but we've got the best
ingredients and that'sphysically riding until we can't
anymore, doing a cold plungeand then making an epic meal
from scratch, and then sittingby a fire and eating it.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
You know what I realized about it.
It makes a really good mountainbiking trip is usually the
first like 70% of it is amazing.
And the last 30% you're almost,you're ready to be done.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But that 30% actually makes it better because, you
forced yourself to keep going.
I'm just now realizing that, aswe're talking about it, yeah,
and that's what makes the coldplunge so great.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Because for me I mean usually my back starts hurting
when we do these long, longrides and it's rocky.
My back starts hurtingsomething you know, or my If
we're going downhill my wrist,my arms and all that.
And then I start to crave, likewhen we went to a chickapee and
my legs locked up.
And then I crave the coldplunge, because the cold plunge
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makes all that pain go away.
It literally disappears.
And then after the cold plunge,we haven't eaten all day, minus
a couple of snacks, because youand I both don't eat breakfast.
So we've done 20 miles, 30miles.
Haven't eaten but a couple ofsnacks, drank a ton of water,
got the cold plunge and then weeat an epic meal.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
That is the perfect formula.
It really is.
So, all that to be said, weheard it from Chad.
Yeah, it was a great weekend.
He needed it.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, he literally needed it and that was the
immediate feedback that we gotRight.
That felt great Right.
And then some guy that hadn'tbeen on a four-runner gunner
trip he went on one of thembefore but a guy that two
totally different circles he'snot in the studio all day on a
podcast talking about focus cameout, hung out with us and had a
(30:05):
great time Went out.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
The point is let's expand on that and keep going,
let's do more of that.
So 30 people out on the hike.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Why not?
Why not?
There's no reason not to invitethem.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, crazy hikes, insane Skydiving.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, squirrel suits down the mountain.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Is that physically?
I mean, I guess that pumps alot of adrenaline, yeah, but
yeah, so that's 2024.
So we're just going to get alot of outside footage randomly.
Yeah, get a tracker progressand post-progress on social like
.
On Friday we started at 10o'clock, we did.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I want to be able to hike 25 miles and not feel like
I'm dying.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
And not flat either.
Some elevation.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
We did for our first hike in this journey.
We did 12 miles, 4,000 feetelevation in four and a half
hours.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Pretty much power walked it too, yeah, we power
walked.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Four hours, 12 miles, I mean 4,000 feet elevation is
not nothing.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, it's not like we're not pioneers.
Yeah, but it doesn't matter,it's a starting point.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
It's January, yeah, so we're going to keep doing
that hike when we can't ride andwe're going to add sandbags so
get up to 50 pounds and be ableto do that yeah, either more
times up and down or wait, andeventually both.
Yeah, and then Monday ortomorrow we're going to do.
I think the most we've done onthe mountain bike is like 26
(31:42):
miles in a day, I think.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Something like that, because Mulberry, we did 26 and
then 16 the next day.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Okay yeah, and that was pretty physically demanding
because we did that mile and ahalf hike in bike situation
Lifting the 30 pound bike over40 logs, 40 fallen trees yeah,
that was a huge pain in the ass.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
But so tomorrow's goal it's January 10th tomorrow,
I think, or whatever.
The race is in August, Right?
I think it's like August 15thand the race is 360 ish miles,
35,000 feet of elevation.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
So we have to be able to get to the point where we
can do 70 miles in a day, alittle over 70, like 71 point,
something a day for 350,.
I think it's 357 miles.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yeah, in five days yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Right, that's the math, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Something like that.
So now we're starting.
We started training on Fridaywith a hike and then tomorrow.
Our goal is 30 miles, which islike five 10 minute breaks at
each 10 mile mark and hit 30miles.
And our terrain here is goingto is more difficult when we
train, which is good becauseit's more single track elevation
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versus the race itself is a lotof gravel.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
A lot of gravel but a lot of climbing.
Yeah, a lot of climbing, a lotof climbing, which our friend
Clay he's a freak who likes toclimb.
Yeah, and he just like and hisbike weighs like four ounces,
yeah, and so he just flies upthe hills, yeah, like literally
flies up them.
So, we got to get to that pointwhere climbing is easy.
(33:27):
Yeah, and it is easy for shortperiods of time.
Yeah, and you know I we're notdoing like a 10 mile climb.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yeah no-transcript.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Easily for fun.
Yeah, that's just not somethingI do, yeah, but we need to make
.
We need to get to the pointwhere we can do 10 mile climb,
yeah, like without it feelinglike much.
Yeah, road bikers right now arelike Round bikers no stamina.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
So the other thing I want to try, bro, so I've told
you I want to do Tai Chi yeah.
What the reason I'm interestedin Tai Chi is because of the
full range of movement andstretching that you get in Tai
Chi and it's also verymeditative practice.
So it's kind of the reason I'venever done Tai Chi.
(34:21):
This is just my assumption,based on looking at people do it
, but based on the movements.
It's very flowy, which I like.
It's very stretchy, which I need, and yeah and it's a lot of
balance work, so it kind ofincorporates balance yeah
meditation and Range of motion.
(34:41):
It's great.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
So what I did, tai Chi, is amazing.
It only takes about 10 yearsfor it to really feel natural
for you.
Yeah, no, tai Chi is.
I've only done a handful oftimes too.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
What it was the same Ten years from now.
I'll be really glad I startedtoday.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah, damn right, oh, I love it because it's about
moving energy.
Yeah you know, for some peoplethey're gonna be like what the
hell is that even mean?
But whatever, yeah, moving theenergy, the Chi, to the body.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
It's great, yeah.
What's timing?
No idea.
T H I.
I don't know why is the firsttie I, in the second I just II
Tai Chi, anyway, whatever.
So, yeah, I want to add thatSome Tai Chi, and then I want to
(35:34):
.
I really want to get a personaltrainer to work on core and
upper body strength, just tojust to yell at me and make me
do 50 push-ups.
Yeah, upper body.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, my upper body, it needs some love.
Yeah, you know years ofmountain biking.
I'm not saying like, my legsare Trunks trunks but their way
is not balanced.
My legs are.
I'm way have way more strengthand stamina with my Doing leg
workouts than I do upper body.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, you got them thunder thighs thunder thighs
yeah and then.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I've been kind of known for the calves, calf daddy
, yeah, but you know, withmartial arts it's not all.
I mean, yeah, your leg strength, actually what it?
When you lose your legs, youlose your life.
Yeah, it is important becauseyour legs are everything.
It's how you get around.
But I Need to work on someupper body strength and
(36:24):
definitely core.
I've been avoiding corestrength basically my whole life
.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, cuz I.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
I don't like sit-ups.
Yeah, cuz it makes my back hurt.
Yeah, when you say it like that, it makes you sound like a 10
year old.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
It makes my back here .
Speaker 2 (36:39):
I don't like sit-ups Well and these are the things
that you realize, like I've beenavoiding this for too long.
Yeah, that's time to just youknow, the things that are easy
are easy now.
Yeah, it is easy to go mountainbiking.
Yeah it's not easy to doscissor kicks.
Yeah for, you know, for 10minutes, so we can keep doing
the easy shit.
(36:59):
For the rest, of our lives andbe the exact same person and
never learn and Just live in theloop.
Yeah, and that's fine if youwant to do that.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Yeah, I just I realized now what I've been
avoiding a lot of things, yeah,and this is one of them yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
So upper body shake, I want to be able to do 100
push-ups to yeah and like onesitting.
Yeah, right now I can maybe dolike 30.
Yeah, so Pull ups and that'syeah in one sitting, but also
multiple times too, if I reallyneed to.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, she can do things that we want to do.
The.
If I'm stuck in a hole and Ican't even pull myself out,
that's not good.
It's not good.
The other thing is If there's50 zombies behind me.
Yeah and there's a lake infront of me.
I'm not a good long-distanceswim.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I've been avoiding swimming basically my whole life
too.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Yeah, I'm not great at it.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah, I'm just saying it right now.
Me too, I am a slow,inefficient Dog, shit swimmer.
Yeah me too at the moment.
Yeah not forever remember thegrowth mindset.
That's right and that needs tochange as well.
Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Mean almost drown when I was a kid so always
blamed it on that.
I mean I can swim.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I can swim too.
Yeah, I mean I can limp aroundin the water.
Yeah, I don't know if I callswimming, but yeah.
I can Swim from one side of thepool to the other, yeah, I can
do what?
30 yards, yeah.
And then I'm like Getting readyto stop.
I don't know how to float.
I Feel like I just sink.
Yeah, me too, even.
(38:38):
I do all the things you'resupposed to do, so this is great
.
Yeah this is something we'veboth been avoiding as well.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
That'd be funny if us brothers took swimming lessons.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, well then, that then we can do the triathlon.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I basically rode off triathlons my as long as I've
been doing physical activitybecause of swimming me too,
because I'm like I just like Ican't.
This is the things you tellyourself.
The scripts.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I can't swim.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, I Just haven't learned how to be more efficient
at it yet yet yet yeah, I meanI'm gonna do is take lessons.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
There's got to be some technique.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
I didn't know how to edit Everything.
I know how to do.
I didn't know how to do at somepoint.
Yeah, so you know, it's justthat simple.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
You know, I've always been good at eating Oreos.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
You didn't have to learn how to do that, that just
came naturally.
I.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Mean, I don't know.
Kids choke on stuff, so I guessI learned how to swallow at
some point.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
So, yeah, that's exciting, bro, learn how to swim
.
Yeah, for some.
For some reason, I want to takedance lessons.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Why not?
You know, elizabeth can.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Samba around.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Samba around.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Spice it up, spice it up, spice it up.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, nice how long we been rambling.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
nice 38 minutes, so Anything else so we're just
gonna keep honestly, now it's,it's.
I mean, we've said this, I'llsay it again.
This has been more of a journalfor us, which is great, yeah,
and so we're gonna journal thisnext phase, which is Setting
some physical goals.
The 360 mile race is the biggoal for the year.
It's gonna take a lot oftraining and so we're gonna
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start training for that.
We're gonna do that.
I think.
If I can, I'm gonna hirePhotographers and videographers
to go out with us to capturethat.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Moment and if you want to go out and try it, it's
the T and GA.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
T and GA, if you want to hop in with us, yeah, that'd
be killer.
I want us to.
By the time it's, we'reapproaching it because it seems
I'm not, I wouldn't say scared,but apprehensive.
Yeah you know I understand thetask at hand.
Yeah, to a degree.
Yeah, you know, it's not likeall high-fives, like it's gonna
(40:57):
be sick.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, I'm a little nervous.
I'm a little nervous.
Yeah, my gooch is nervous.
My gooch is way nervous.
It's the most nervous thing.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
It's my, my gooch is my gooch is terrifying.
I got those gooch bumps, yeahso, but by the time we get there
to where it's, you're notreally you're just it feels like
you, you conditioned.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
You feel prepared?
That's the word.
Yeah, yeah, not like a fish outof water.
Yeah so, and I think Justhaving this goal in August and
the amount of conditioning we'regonna do by the time we get
there will be completelydifferent, oh my gosh completely
different people yeah, soanyway it's great.
(41:41):
It's great.
It seems like a good time frameand a good goal, a nice
Something to work towards.
Yeah, that's.
It seems Intimidating enough.
Yeah that's what I realized.
I don't really ever setintimidating goals for myself
ever yeah.
You know those people who dothat.
Yeah one after the other.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
I've avoided, I've been comfortable.
Let's just call it what it is.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
I've been sitting in comfort for my whole life.
That's.
We're just really good down tothe meat potatoes here.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
It's just that simple , so I Don't want to sit in
comfort only in the words of thewarehouse staff at the office
You've been living your cushylittle nerf life.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yes, wow, let's see if I can Wiggle my way out of
the comfy you know thecomfortable, whatever bed I've
made for myself.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, Well, I think, for I've set aggressive business
goals and financial goals andall that kind of stuff, and I'm
that kind of that.
That kind of life is whatAnnoyed me right in therapy.
That's what I'm not doinganymore, like, like you know,
constantly was like this has gotto work, it's got to work.
So for me, it's verytherapeutic To where now in
(43:02):
business, I'm honestly just likeWhatever I'm, I am I and I've
asked myself over the pastcouple of weeks Is it true?
Is it gonna come back?
Because I've obsessed overentrepreneurialism and trying to
be successful as anentrepreneur and a business
person most of my adult life.
(43:23):
Yeah, and and Now I'm just like, if I have to get a job, I have
to get a job if this businessworks.
If it doesn't, I'll try anotherone, like I.
Honestly, it feels so good tonot give a fuck.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
But I feel like that's what being an
entrepreneur is.
I, I, will see.
I mean, it's the first timeI've ever been almost like the
mindset is I'll do whatever Ihave to do in this moment, but I
know that there's moreopportunities.
Almost like entrepreneurmindset is you see opportunities
more than seeing, than limitingthem.
(44:03):
Yeah, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
So that's We'll, see.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
For me anyway.
Yeah, we'll see if, if notbeing so focused on it has to
work, makes it actually workmore.
We'll see, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Who knows?
Because there's all the youknow half of the internet.
I don't know half, but a lot ofthe internet is just like the
grind culture stuff.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah, yeah, it might not work now because I don't
care.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
And that that's almost honestly.
That's a whole otherconversation.
Yeah, because it's like do youforce yourself to make it work
even though you want to die?
Yeah, because that's what ittakes.
Yeah, you just work onsomething that feels lighter to
your, to your spirit.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
And you can actually work harder on it without
feeling like you're dying.
I'd rather work hard onsomething that doesn't make me
feel like I'm dying.
Yeah, so it doesn't feel thathard, yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
So Well, I think the big question there and again,
this is a whole another episodethat we can do one day in the
woods if we want but why does ithave to work?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
You know, yeah, what, what is it working even.
What does that even mean?
Speaker 3 (45:20):
It worked.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah, it worked.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yeah, it could.
Yeah, what does that even meanit?
Speaker 2 (45:24):
worked.
Oh, I'm a.
I made a million dollars Everyperson I've ever met.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
That got to a point.
All they were doing wasobsessing about the next point.
Yeah, so what does it work?
Even mean when every singleperson I've ever worked with
they met a goal and they'realready in the next goal.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Yeah, oh, we're profitable.
Oh, it's the next, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
More money, more profit, oh, it's a million in
revenue.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Oh, it's two.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
And it's five and then 10.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
It's like more employees more this so yeah,
what is it worked.
Quote yeah, it worked.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, and though Instagram may make you believe
it, multi-millionaires doesn'tautomatically mean that they're
just happy.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
So whatever, I think it's not really about the
outcome.
Being tied to outcomes is notthe best thing to do.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
But this rant for me was saying that I'm excited to
have a physical goal becauseI've never had a physical goal
before my life Same same and thephysical goal we are setting
out to do the race.
We will go do the race, thenthe race will be over.
Yeah, these intangibles, youknow all that kind of stuff.
(46:41):
Yeah, it's nice to, I don'tcare how many.
I honestly am completelyremoved from this content.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yeah, like if it doesn't have to be, if it
doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
If we decide to stop doing it next week, I don't care
anymore.
Same, I just don't care.
Yeah, we're doing a podcastright now, today's episode
because we felt like it.
This feels way better.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yeah, honestly, I'm having more fun on this episode
than I've damn near had in thelot yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
So, so that I don't know.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
if we're providing value, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Doesn't matter.
We felt like sitting down anddoing an episode, so we did.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
So you know I don't care, but I'm with you.
I've never, never, done thephysical goal.
I think this is a great placeto start.
Yeah, so we'll see you guys inAugust, that's right.
It will be cool to track theprogress.
Yeah, so if you're interestedin joining, joining our journey.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Well, I got a little nervous when we did our hike on
Friday because it was a shorthike 12 miles.
We ride 20 plus miles.
We kill ourselves on the bike.
I'm not sore the next day.
Yes, I did a 12 mile hike,which isn't that long 4000 feet
elevation, that's not nothing.
But I was sore for three daysafterwards.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
And I was like damn.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
I guess I'm worked to do.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
And I've done.
Yeah, my knees started hurting.
This let's just call it what itis too.
Sometimes my knees it's notpain, but it feels a little
wonky when I'm mountain biking357 miles.
What happens?
What happens on day four?
What happens on the fifth day?
When you've done 70 miles a day?
(48:21):
What does your knee feel like?
These are things I don't know.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
I have not been there .
Speaker 2 (48:25):
You know and there's, you know, the what's it called,
the ultra, ultra runners andthese mega athletes.
You know, some people are youkind of there, have more
experience here.
I don't.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
I've never felt this shit.
Yeah, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Yeah, I really want to get one of the someone on the
on the podcast and talk to himabout that, Please Like.
How do you?
We need a couple, yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
You know cause.
I did a 70 mile ride on a roadbike on pavement and my knee was
starting to feel a little goofy.
Yeah, you know I could in mytaint.
Yeah, it's building that, that,that sitting stamina on the
bike.
Yeah, so there's going to be awhole number of things that we
have to figure out.
Yeah, socks underwear.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Shoes, drinks, food.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Yeah, pace, pace, and it's, it's, you know.
That's why it's the.
I don't want to.
I mean, maybe perfect is notthe right word, but it's a great
goal.
Yeah, because it's scary enough, it's intimidating enough, yeah
, and it's going to push usenough and we're going to have
to learn quite a bit.
Yeah, and it's not like, okay,I want to ride whatever 100
(49:36):
miles in two days, like it's notsomething, it's a big chunk bro
.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
I'm kind of nervous now that we're talking about it,
so yeah, what happens when yourknees like feeling blown out?
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Yeah, I don't know, I want to ask people after 150
miles yeah, you still have 200to go.
Yeah, you know what about what?
What?
What wrist pain?
I mean, we're talking aboutbeing on a bike.
You know, you think about yourass, you think about your legs.
What about your wrist?
Speaker 3 (50:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
What about my neck?
Speaker 2 (50:06):
What about your neck?
Speaker 1 (50:07):
When I do those long stuff and there's a lot of rocks
.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
What happens on the lower back?
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Oh, the last one we did my back was just like
cailing me.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
And so this is what conditioning conditioning is
going to flush out these thingsand see what happens to the body
.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
You know, and then we're going to go to our experts
and we're going to tell themwhat's happening to our body and
they're going to tell us whatto do.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
They're going to say don't sit on a bike for nine
hours straight and ride 100miles in one day.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
They're like don't do the least ergonomical thing,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
So in those are the things you can only find out by
us just putting in a bunch ofmiles and see how our bodies
react.
Yeah, so I mean I'm 34 andyou're 41.
41.
Yeah, so great.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Our aunt, I mean cousin Stephanie.
Yeah, she played a lot ofsports and she totally blew out
her knee, had to have a surgery,had multiple surgeries.
We were hiking one day at astate park, because our family
does state parks every year, andyou know she was talking a
little bit about her knee.
I think it was our sister, Thea, I think.
(51:24):
Anyway, I was just in thisconversation and Thea said to
her like how do you deal with it?
And her immediate response wasjust just deal with it.
But she's been an athlete.
She was an athlete for so longand she's always stayed physical
.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Right.
So that's just the mentality,that's the mentality it's like,
just deal with it.
And that's probably what peoplewho have been, who have more
experience here, are probablysaying right now Like you just
keep going, you just keep going.
You say, oh, that's a weirdsensation in my knee and just
keep on riding.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Yeah, it's not it's not if your back's going to hurt
or if your knee is going tohurt, it's just when.
It's just when you just keepgoing, I guess yeah.
You're going to quit, you'regoing to keep going.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Well, when you're in the middle of nowhere, too,
that's true.
Where are you going to go?
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Yeah, because that from North Carolina to Alabama
and North Georgia there's some,there's some pockets of no even
if you wanted to quit, you'regoing to have to hike 10 miles.
10 miles to the next road.
Yeah, Like quitting is hiking10 miles to the next road.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
At that point, miles just keep going.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
Miles will keep going .
Speaker 2 (52:38):
Miles will hike up the next hill, so anyway, all
right.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
That's it.
That's it, episode 101.
Episode 101.
Let's get physical, physical,let's get physical Physical.
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