January 18, 2024 • 41 mins
Welcome to Episode 102 of The Focus Cast! 🎙️ Join us for an inspiring journey as we explore a groundbreaking approach to setting goals that encompasses the mind, body, and soul.
In the realm of the mind, we delve into the power of presence and the art of observing without judgment. Learn how these mindfulness practices can reshape your approach to goal-setting, fostering a mindset of growth and self-discovery.
Moving to the body, we uncover the importance of balancing serotonin levels and activating the parasympathetic nervous system. Discover practical strategies to enhance your overall well-being, providing a solid foundation for achieving your physical goals.
The soul takes center stage as we explore the realms of curiosity and creativity. Embrace these elements to infuse your goals with passion and purpose, creating a deeper connection to your life's work
Measuring success takes on a unique perspective in this episode—embrace pain and self-grace. Explore the transformative power of acknowledging challenges while extending compassion to yourself along the way.
And remember, in the pursuit of your goals, there is no finish line. This is life's work. Join us as we discuss the ever-evolving nature of personal growth and achievement.
But that's not all! We share insights into our own physical goals, discussing the additions to our routines that are propelling us toward success.
As a special treat, we draw parallels to the legendary Mongolian horses and warriors, exploring how their battle strategies hold relevance in today's pursuit of personal excellence.
Tune in to Episode 102 for a dynamic conversation that will inspire you to redefine your approach to goals and embark on a journey of lifelong fulfillment. 🌟 #TheFocusCast #GoalSetting #MindBodySoul
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Focus Cast, episode 102.
Today we're talking about somegoals, that's right.
Some physicality, physicality,let's get physical.
Hmm, and what was?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
the other thing we're going to surprise ourselves by
talking a little bit about theMongolian warriors and horses
and how we can relate that toSusie in a meeting.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Nice, very nice.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It's going to be a fun day today, so let's hop in.
Yeah, sweet, what's your name?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Jonathan Noel.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
And I'm Brian Noel.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
This is the Focus Cast.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Where we help reduce distractions, increase focus, so
we can live our life withintentions.
That's right Understanding freewill.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
It changes things, huh yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
You can live whatever life that you want, and I'm not
judging.
Yeah, we're going to talk alittle bit about judgment today.
We're going to start talkingabout goals.
There we go.
So here's how this came up, bro.
All right, I was on, I had apost for Instagram, ok, and for
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some reason last night I wasjust thinking there was a
football game on and I waslistening to a book.
So I have the football game onon zero Because I'm not as
interested in the football gamebut I like to watch it.
But I can't just watch it.
I have to do something else.
So I'm listening to a book.
(01:32):
It's a really good book byStanislaw Groff, psychiatrist
from the 60s, 70s and 80s.
But anyway, that's anotherstory and I was just thinking
about man.
As my perspective has changed,my mind has changed my body is
changing all these things arechanging.
I was like my goals have reallychanged my framework and how I
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set goals is changing, and thatmakes sense.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
As your viewpoint expands, you kind of have a
different idea of where you'llwant to go.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, so you know me.
I've been a goal-oriented humanbeing for a long time.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I remember I saw your book.
I must have been in my early20s and you showed me your book
with the five-year plan.
This was so alien to me.
The thought of having amulti-year written out.
It wasn't just, by the way, forthe listeners, it wasn't just a
page that said in five years Iwant this.
I mean, it was a book full ofthe steps to get there and
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one-year plan too.
Yada, yada.
I was like holy shit bro.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
While some people had a black book of hookups, I had
a black book of businesses andideas and strategies.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Because I was already married.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's funny.
I think I was either mostmemorable or most likely to
succeed.
It must have been mostmemorable that I was voted in
high school.
Really, you got one of those.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, damn, look at you.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
That's awesome.
I think it was the trench coatsand the spray painted combat
boots that I got from the Armysurplus store.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Most likely it ended up on the news award.
Oh, I remember that guy.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
So, anyway, I've had a lot of goals and I've always
had.
We've talked about this a lotnow.
So for me I lived in the futureRight, disassociation, right.
So I lived in the future but Ihad low level anxiety that I
wasn't doing enough in thepresent.
So it's natural for someonelike that in that state to
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constantly have written downvery well executed visions of
the future Right.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
That was how I could somewhat control we fit this
before.
Live in the future causeanxiety, live in the past
usually causes depression, andso you dealt with your anxiety
by having a very detailedthought out plan.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and a lot of those things didn't
work.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
It was never really about them working.
It was something to make youfeel OK.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yes, that's exactly right.
I just needed to feel safe.
Exactly, I felt safe.
What was to have a plan?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
What was to have a five year plan.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And it naturally evolved.
Yeah, of course Because itnever was the today plan.
Yeah, it was always the futureplan yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I just everything's going to change.
So much Is there.
Can you actually dream ofsomething and it be the exact
same as you thought of it infive years from now?
I mean maybe a few people.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Without deviation, I don't know.
I mean, maybe we can ask ElonMusk.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, maybe he Maybe.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
He saw it, but I would assume he would agree that
the path to get there hasdefinitely been a little rocky,
rocky, rock get Anyway.
So that's a great segue, bro.
So that's what my goals used tolook like, right, even for this
podcast.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
A slightly manic, borderline, obsessive way to
feel safe and ride it all out.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, and that's what you needed, that's totally fine
, that's what I needed, andwhat's crazy about that is, in
the business community, anyonewho bumped into me respected
that.
They were like, damn, you got agreat plan.
You're going to make it.
But they didn't realize, and Ididn't realize, that that plan
was just based on needing safetybecause of my anxiety.
So before we complimentsomeone's great plans, roast
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them first.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I'm just kidding, I'm totally kidding.
Ask them if they're OK.
That's what you should do.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Man, I really like this plan.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Are you all right?
Are you OK?
How have you been feelinglately?
What?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
if it doesn't work, it's going to work.
So this is how I am deciding toapproach goal setting in the
future.
Ok, all right.
So this is what I wrote on myInstagram, that's what I'm
reading, that's what I'm holdingmy phone right now.
So I said, though the work ishard, the goals have reduced in
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complexity.
I've got to have some nicelittle statement to set it up.
Oh, of course.
Anyway, so the goal for themind, my goal for the mind, is
to work on and increase presenceand observation without
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judgment.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, you want to be present in this thing called
love?
Yeah, or you can have love forpeople without judging them.
Yeah, that's new for me.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, so New for myself too, oh, absolutely.
Observation of self andobservation of the world without
judgment, just observing.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
The amount of compassion you can have for
others is usually an indicatorfor how much you have for
yourself.
Boom, just saying, it's hard tohave it for others if you don't
have it for yourself.
Damn right, bro.
So it's kind of a borrower, abarometer.
So if you can cultivate andstart to love yourself, and
typically that goes to thepeople around you, because you
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can empathize with what's goingon in their life.
Yeah, man, that's good.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I think that's a Buddhist meditation principle
the observation without judgment.
So I was listening to this bookand this is all new to me.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
So someone might be like that wasn't Buddhist, that
was this, and that's fine,because I've read a lot of books
.
Now I'm just pulling principlesI don't know where from, but
I'm not judging, that's what I'mnot doing Anyway.
But they talked about it andthey said step one is to be able
to in meditation and the levelsof meditation.
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Step one is to you have thesejudgments come up and these
emotions are attached tojudgments and first just observe
them, like, just like, oh man,you're really frustrated or
whatever.
Just observe it, and then youstart progressing into this
phase where you can observe itwithout judging it.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Right, you're angry.
You shouldn't be angry.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
No no.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You're angry.
This is just the thing that'shappening.
It doesn't define me.
It's not who I am, yeah, justlook at it.
I am not an angry person.
I'm a being experiencing anger.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yes, at the moment.
At the moment, and then, whenyou're not judging it, you have
the opportunity to actuallyobserve it and see where it's
coming from, which then helpsyou process it and go below it,
because you're not stuck in theminutia.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You're not stuck in the emotion of it.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I remember one time my wife and I were a little
aggravated at each other.
Quick caveat before I tell thisstory.
So you know they talk about thehoneymoon phase For people.
It's beautiful for the firstthree years and five years and
then it just kind of gets worseand worse and worse.
That's how some people describemarriage.
My wife and I our marriage hasbeen the opposite.
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We hated each other for thefirst three to five years and
then now we love each other morethan ever.
That's wonderful.
So it went backwards.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
That's better.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
What I realized is marriage is a mirror, and I
hated myself, but anyway, therewas one time that she Made me
mad, or, if I say it correctly,she was a mirror in which Boiled
up some anger that I had formyself from my past, yeah and I
remember I punched a hole in thewall and then turn around and
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Roundhouse kick the fridge.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I Saw it in my head as you described it, because it
was that little apartment.
Yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, yeah so, but what was so great about the
whole experience was the secondI did that.
I was like I feel better, butnow I got to fix this hole.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I mean, it was a release.
Yeah, so anyway and you got toget out of the house.
Go to home depot and buy some.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, that patch.
I was not good at patchwork.
You could see that spot for along time.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
So yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
That's mind presence plus observation without
judgment, mm-hmm.
Those are the two goals.
Be present, observe withoutjudgment, mm-hmm, the body goal.
You ready for this?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
This is really coming from two years of talking about
focus in the body from ourpodcast.
Yeah, but serotonin balance,which we?
I read a book called Hacking ofthe American mind that talks
about the dopamine addiction.
Yeah and how we were alladdicted to cheap highs, mm-hmm,
the dopamine has for astimulation, the nonstop, yes,
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stimulation which offsets ourserotonin.
Yeah, and and again.
There's a lot more science anddetails to that.
So if anyone is in that space,yeah, check out Huberman lab.
We're not yeah, yeah, this isobviously a this is yeah, it's
my goal general goal butdopamine detox and Serotonin
reset.
That's the goal this year.
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Nice, through the food I eat,the toxins I do not.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That's pretty specific, yeah, but a diet
exercise overhaul is gonna dolike a full hormone reset for
you.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
And then you can be like those enlightened yogis who
just sit there and look likethey're stoned all the time.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I have to stop getting stoned.
To get stoned there's there'sdifferent levels of being stoned
on.
And then the next is aparasympathetic nervous system.
Balance, fear and all thatstuff really strikes the
sympathetic nervous system.
Fight or flight triggers thatamygdala, makes it fat and honey
.
And then you're just living ina fear, fight, flight or fawn
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state.
Yes and but.
The parasympathetic nerve issleep and peace and healing and
healing and all that stuff.
Your body can take care of itsfunctions and Some people say
that the parasympathetic nervoussystem is how we access the
greater power interesting?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, it definitely is easier to think and
Articulate and work throughthings.
Yeah, not in fight or flight.
Yeah, if you can engage theparasympathetic nerve or that
whole system, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
it's a different experience, I even read
somewhere and I looked it up, inthe first 10 articles, some of
those being like Med journals.
So, based on my very quick passthrough of this, that you can't
have fear and Creativity, orfear and curiosity at the same
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time.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, it's two different partsof the brain.
So when fear is at, all timehigh.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I just know when I, if my amygdala is engaged and
that fear state is there.
I'm not thinking about a coolguitar chord progression.
Are creative things.
Yeah, it's just not even yeah,a consideration at that point,
it's yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
So how sad is it that people in their relaxed state
use their creativity to createthings that cause fear, so other
people can't access theircreativity.
That's kind of tragic.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
It almost seems like if you were doing it from
purpose.
Yeah, be to keep people in a.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
In a fear state Wow, what dicks.
Oh yeah, that's right, we'resupposed to cuss less this year.
Sorry, mom, Listen episode 101for that if you want the
background.
So, yes, that's the body goal.
So again, not like I want toweigh this much, I want to lift
this much, I want to you know.
No, no crazy data, no, nothing.
I just want to learn about theserotonin and the
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parasympathetic nerve,seraparasempathetic nervous
system, and I want to learn moreabout it and I want to do
things in my life that balancethose out.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
That's right, because that's basically where
meditation starts.
Yeah, a little bit of breath,breath work to disengage the
amygdala, activate theparasympathetic, so you can
actually sit there instead ofthinking about the world ending.
Yeah, you can be relaxed andthat's pretty much where it
starts.
That's like the baseline, man.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah well, I do have something to talk about later in
the episode, and I think I hitmy first baseline of meditation.
Oh, and I'm gonna talk aboutthe products that I purchased
that helped me get there.
Listen, for those of you whostruggle with meditation, you
might want to try this.
I'll talk about that later.
All right, all right, so that'smind, body and soul.
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Okay, so soul is Just curiosityand creativity.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
That's my goals.
How do I measure that?
I'll talk about metrics in aminute, but that's where I'm
focused for my soul.
I like them curious.
I'm just gonna keep readingI've read a lot of books in the
past month and a half and justkeep being creative.
Yeah, but creative withoutexpectations, right?
Like?
I gotta create a post ForInstagram that gets enough views
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for us to get a sponsor.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Nope, nope sounds terrible, that sounds like
torture, yeah, that sounds likeNot.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
That sounds like the sympathetic nervous system.
So just be creative.
We made some music.
We're gonna throw that musicout in the world and see what
happens.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Worst-case scenario.
We get to listen to it onSpotify, and that's way easier
than going to Google Drive,because their interface is
horrible.
Yeah, and using Google Drive isterrible in general and it
makes me not like Google.
Yeah, actually I didn't reallylike them anyway, because they
steal all our data, but yeah andrecord everything, and they're
basically an extension of theNSA, but that's a whole nother
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thing.
So, anyway, what's next bro?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
and one opportunity.
Even we get to enjoy it.
But I will say I'll have alittle bit of a self pride
moment, mm-hmm, when I get tosend a Spotify playlist of music
that we wrote to my friends.
Yeah, that's gonna be cool.
I've never done that before.
It's gonna be a new one.
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Yeah, I'm pretty excited.
So that's my body.
So how am I going to measureprogress?
What are my milestones?
Right, yeah, you ready, I'mready.
Embrace pain plus self grace.
So what does that mean for me?
So, in brace pain mentally, asI work through some trauma, this
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past year there's been somepain involved, some
uncomfortable times, yep.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
That's working through trauma tends to do that.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah, so this year I shared on the last podcast
podcast last episode.
I will be continuing to embracepain in the mental, in the mind
, but also adding embracing painin the body right.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
We're adding physical goals into this year because
we've never had really truephysical goals.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I've never done it either.
Yeah, we talked about that inthe whole last episode.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, so and then self-crace.
So when I don't want toexperience pain and I just want
to take a break and I just wantto relax and eat a ham sandwich
and watch football, I'm gonna dothat.
Hmm, and I'm not gonna sitthere and go.
Well, you could be doing this.
You could be working on yourcell strategy, you could be
playing for the next podcast.
You give it a lot of blah, blah, blah blah.
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I'm not gonna do that.
I'm just gonna sit there andenjoy my ham sandwich and watch
football game.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, so you're not taking the David Goggins
approach.
I'm just kidding no.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
That thing, that's totally fine.
You have to be.
I mean, honestly, that's theself-care piece too a little bit
and self-compassion.
I don't think he races everyday.
No, His off days are like justa quick seven mile run.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, I mean that's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
But the point is, is some of the trauma stuff like
pulling that up and dealing withit?
Sometimes you just need somecomfort.
It's that simple.
It's not only work.
Yeah, so, yeah, so.
Sometimes you just want a hamsandwich at two in the morning
and yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Watch something Some chocolate.
So I saw a graph that I thoughtwas pretty cool on the Insta
and this guy was like it fillsup and down linearly, but really
it's up and down with an upwardprojection.
If you keep doing the work,like for us, it's just like a
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stock.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
It's just like a stock, that's yeah, over our
past 30 years that overall trend.
The 200 day moving average isup, yeah, but that doesn't mean
it goes up every day, no, itmight have a couple of five to
8% swings.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, Occasionally, a 20% swing Occasionally, but
that's an up and down swing too,yeah.
So, but collectively, averagewe going up, bro, exactly we
going up.
Yeah, it's not a straight line,nope, all right, you know what
my finish line goal is?
What's that?
It's blank.
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Ooh, mysterious.
Yeah, that was so intentional.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
To be continued.
There is no finish line.
All right, it's a state of mind.
Yeah Right, growth, growth isthe point.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
If you're trying to grow, is there a whatever, a
finish line?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
No, there'll be little mini finish lines along
the way when we make it acrossthe line of that 365 mile race
that we're doing in August.
When we when I did a coldshower this morning it was
probably the coldest shower ofthe year and I did it that was a
little mini finish line.
Yeah, totally, I finished myass right out of that shower.
Yeah, that was fun you were up.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
You had to wake up at two in the morning for
something.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
You didn't get much sleep.
Yeah, taking the cold shower isone thing when you feel great,
but when you're tired and it'slike super early, it makes it
really hard to hop in that water.
You just really ask yourself amI stupid or just like?
What is the point of this?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
A long hot shower this morning.
I was just like what do youwant?
I was like I want a long hotshower and my wife got a little
speaker that goes in the showerand at first I was kind of like
making fun of her for it.
And then I turned on some musicwhile I was in the shower and I
was like this is the greatestthing I've ever had in my life.
You remember the rich mansionsfrom the TV shows from the 80s
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and 90s when they had a phone inthe shower.
I got the cord corded phone inthe shower, because it yeah
apparently the guy was so busyand take a phone call in the
shower.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Why would anyone agree to that?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I don't know.
He probably used it more forphone sex than he did for
business calls.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Let's be honest, I'm in the shower.
Yeah, I know I can barely hearyou.
All right, so that's yeah,goals, man.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
That's how my goals have changed from the past,
however long to now.
It feels better already.
I like that.
I feel less stressed.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
That's wonderful.
Yeah, I like that.
You know I've never had goals.
I don't know if we wanted totalk about that.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
How do you live?
That's so foreign to me.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I've never really had goals.
I have a like here and there.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
What's an example?
Hello to you 34.
Hello, what's an example of a34 year olds here and there?
Goal.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Well, when I wanted to get the 107 part 107 drone
license, oh yeah, I was like Iwant to do this, I'm going to
study for the test, and I didand it was fine, nice.
So it was a little mini goal.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I like that.
I've never had big goals.
Yeah, do you have goals now?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Not really.
No, it's not necessarily for me.
I think it's more the mindset,the growth Embracing that daily,
and then the things just kindof happen If you feel like you
want something and you just doit.
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Sure, I don't know, this may besomething that needs a change,
but we're doing the physicalgoal, like our 357 mile bike
ride.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
That's the biggest goal physically I've ever had in
my life Same.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
So I think everything's it's kind of
volatile when you start likewanting to just grow and evolve,
yeah, that it's like.
Now I have even less of areason to that's true.
Yeah, two set goals no, I don'tknow.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
We need some on a psychiatrist or something.
What is it?
What is it Psychologist?
Psychologist or someone to helpflush it out, or a psychiatrist
?
What does that mean?
That I don't that I never setgoals.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Well, it's funny because, because I don't want to
fail yeah.
Maybe, if you don't set them,you don't fail.
Yeah, that might be the casefor some people, for sure.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, that's probably .
Preemptively strike a failure.
Yeah, yeah, if you don't setthem, you can't fail.
You can't fail something younever tried.
Yeah, that's true.
That's probably yeah, so it'sprobably mostly that, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
But I was talking to a business friend the other day
and he said man, where are youat?
And I said, well, honestly,I've got a physical goal this
year, but business wise I justdon't care, like, as long as I
can be curious and creative.
I mean I'm gonna do stuff andI'm gonna work and I'm gonna see
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things through.
But for the first time I justdon't care if they work or not.
I wanna provide for my family.
Obviously I like to be able tobuy things when I want them.
Who doesn't?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
But outside of that, whatever, yeah and not having
goals doesn't mean I'm not doinganything either.
Obviously True, it's not.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Hey, you posted that picture on your Instagram.
Physically, you've been doingsome things in the last five or
seven years.
Yeah, that has been a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
The now and then.
The now and then.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
They're then and now Go check out.
Was it John Z Lenine?
John Z Lenine?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
About your Insta.
Well, that was just a story, soI should post it on my timeline
.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
It's pretty great, anyway, all right, so physical.
Now, that's the goals setting,that's how they've changed over
two years and some of thecraziness that the new, the new
arrival, the new conclusionsbased on all the work that we've
been doing mentally and for mepersonally, yeah, the broader
(25:21):
viewpoint yeah, so Achieved.
Now physical.
So we wanted to ride 30 miles.
The other day it was pouringdown rain, all the trails were
closed, so we said, well, we'lljust go hike for five hours,
because that's how much time wehad, and we filled our bags.
I need my wife's dumbbell bag,by the way.
(25:41):
Is that in the truck?
Yes sweet she's like.
Now I'm gonna have to work outwith 15 pound weights she did.
Nice, I helped, yeah, you did,but so we put a bunch of weight
in our bags anywhere between 20and 30 pounds, and we just
walked for five hours.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, and you know what I thought for some people?
They're gonna be like okay,that's a nice warm up, yeah,
that's cute.
And that's fine and it's notlike it destroyed me, but at the
same time I was really tired.
Afterwards I don't know if it'sbecause we were, it was 45
degrees and it was raining, soit was like as soon as you
stopped moving, you wererealized how cold and wet it was
(26:22):
.
So I don't know if I was burningmore energy to stay warm or
something, but I felt like ittook more energy than it should
have because I've done 14 milehikes and I was tired, but this
like sucked it out of me In adifferent kind of way.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, it was pouring rain for the first two to two
and a half hours.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
And it was 45 degrees .
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, it was chilly and we had to move to stay warm.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, as soon as we stopped for a snack and some
water I remember five minutesI'm like, yeah, let's keep going
.
This is like not moving sucksmore than moving.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
But it felt great.
For me that's the first time Idid extended exercise in the
rain, and back to just the justhow good it felt in all of me.
Yeah, like it felt so good tobe out in the rain in the woods
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just moving.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yep, absolutely.
I don't know why.
There's lots of reasons.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Because of movement, because of being in nature.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, yeah, the acid rain, the acid rain helps.
Yeah, being in nature ishealing.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, big time.
So, oh, you wanna hearsomething crazy?
Yeah, what's?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
that Saw the other day.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
What's that?
That we actually could getenough energy that we needed to
sustain ourselves from groundingin the trees?
Whoa, we could reduce our foodintake significantly and be
completely actually morenourished if we spent more time
in the woods.
I don't know if that's true ornot.
(28:07):
I don't know if it'sscience-backed.
I just saw the video.
Sounds like some.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
TikTok, I'll just get it.
There's a thing called breatharian.
Yeah, people who basicallydon't eat, they just drink water
.
Breath arian.
Yeah breath arian, breath arian.
Of course, for some peoplelistening it'd be like that's
the dumbest shit I've ever heard.
I just wanna meet someone who isa breath arian, but I mean, I
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listened to a podcast and thewoman she wasn't trying to sell
it, she was basically like Idon't think most people should
ever do this.
It's for very select few.
So it's not.
There's no Ponzi scheme here.
There's no money in it.
It's really hard to sell.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
She's not really looking.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Don't consume, she's not really looking for too much
attention it seems like but,yeah.
Basically, you're whateverspiritually evolved enough to
where you don't have to eatanymore.
That's crazy, because you getenough energy from the sun and
breathing and water.
Wow.
So I don't know if she's doinglike Ironman competitions and
(29:13):
what are those things calledLike the war.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Spartans, spartans, yeah, zombie and triathlons.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I don't know if you can do triathlons and just live
off of breathing, but you know,I don't know.
Check it out, whatever, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Thanks very much.
Uh, I hired a personal trainer,mm.
Hmm, so two days a week I'mdoing more weights and learning
new stretches and doing some ofthat work to offset being on the
bike so much and only workingthe same muscles on the bike,
(29:50):
yeah, so, um, I know that myback typically starts hurting
first when we do those longrides with a lot of rocks.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Mm, hmm.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
And so I got a strength in the core and other
parts of the body, yep, so Istarted that and I just did a
quick 30 minute meet the trainersession.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, last week Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Um, and he was just showing me a couple of things
and I couldn't walk for threedays barely.
I was pinging and around.
That's awesome, so that's agood sign.
Yeah, and that was my legs too.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, my legs are strong.
You thought you were, yeah,strong in some ways.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
So that's how I that's me.
And martial arts yeah, like mylegs are strong in certain ways.
Mountain biking yeah, you getinto some of these stances and
you're like you know, you startdoing that chicken shade here.
They start shaking, wobblingreal quick.
You look, how could I do this?
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I wonder if that's how that song, the wobble, was
written.
Dude just did a really hardworkout Do.
How does the wobble song go.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I forgot, oh, is that while?
While Wobble me wobble me,wobble me, wobble me, wobble.
But um, the point is, yes, it'snot just going to be cycling,
because we want a more wellrounded physical, like just
being more physically adept allaround.
Yeah, so that doesn't mean onlybiking.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Well, the trainer said to like doing just
traditional leg exercises likesquats and all that kind of
stuff.
The the stronger your musclesare, the less they use the
tenants, the tendons, thetendons.
And that's great, all thatstuff.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Then in mind hopefully my knee will stop.
Yeah, Making that interestingfeeling.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
So we're just going to, just going to keep it going.
So that's added that to theroutine.
Nice, um, maintaining our coldplunges.
My wife got me one of thoseportable cold plunges.
Yeah, we should have it reallyused in the summer, because I
don't want to buy ice all thetime, yeah, and I don't have a
cold pump.
But I tell you what, man, whatis 20 or 30 degrees outside and
I just feel that Joker up thenight before and let it sit all
(31:56):
night and jump in there in themorning.
That's hardcore.
That stuff's cold.
I bet I'm just in the backyardplaying side of the neighbors.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, out there, yeah , feeling like um, just that
wild man with that white chestand all that hair.
They look out there and they'relike what is that thing?
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, what is?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
that?
What the fuck is that?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Why is he getting into a small little bath in the
bed?
How redneck is that?
I got a little bath, littlecircle bath, in the backyard.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Like showers broken.
Is that there washing my hair?
Um, no, it's great, yeah, it'sgreat.
Uh, I want to be able to dophysically First off.
I want to be able to do things.
Yeah, for a long time.
Yeah, you know, still active inthe 80s 90s you know, basically
till I die, and then able to dosome of these, these things,
(32:46):
that felt I won't say impossible, but that just felt like how
can people do that?
Yeah, like five years ago likehow do you run, how do you do a
try at the one Cause?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I'm not a great swimmer, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
So things that felt overwhelming, yeah.
But I reached that point whereit's like, oh, I can do that.
Yeah, I'm not saying that canbe easy, but I can do it.
Yeah, being reaching that pointwhere you can kind of just
tackle physically most things, Igot a good story there, bro.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
What's that?
I was at this event this pastweekend and these two military
dudes were there.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I know they were military because when I'm had
United States Marine Corpstattooed, yeah, that usually is
an indicator.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah, you don't do that unless you don't, or else
you're going to get called out,yep.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, um, and one of the guys was like like you know
those?
You know those, uh Instagramphotos of, like these men coming
out of the water?
Yeah, and you look at them andyou're just like, damn that man,
what a man, sure.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
That happens to me.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
sometimes I'm just like yeah, like well, what a
beefcake.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, yeah.
Like I tell you it's alwayssunny.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
I had so many sunny fans, uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I tell people I love men because I want to be one one
day.
So anyway, this guy was a man'sman, um, super nice guy, uh,
anyway.
So we had a break and I wasjust talking, they were talking
to each other and just kind ofinterjected myself and I was
like you know, what do you guysdo physically?
And they both like I'm talking,millisecond response, no
(34:20):
thinking at all, and they justsaid everything and I was just
like that's badass.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
It's badass because it's you want to reach that
point where you're versatile.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, everything they said run, bike, climb all these
races, swim, they do it all.
That's great, non-stop.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
So I'm into it.
Yeah, that's what I want to be,me too.
To where you know, for me it'score.
My core is weak and I can't sitdown and knock out a hundred
pushups in a row, if I'm beingjust totally honest right now
it's.
I'm not there yet.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
So get some of that good old fashioned PT and pull
ups these dudes who just hop upthe bar and do like 20 pull ups,
like it's nothing.
Oh my gosh, I mean, and I weighless now than I have since,
like you know, high school.
Wait, I weigh the same now as.
I did back then.
I gained weight and I lost it,but pull ups are still like, so
(35:22):
Definitely got some areas towork on the legs are pretty
strong.
The core is definitely.
I've been avoiding core foreveryeah, yeah, Because it's
notoriously the the lamest, notlamest.
I just, it sucks.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, let's be real, let's be real.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
So I've been avoiding it.
So, yeah, core upper, body.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Nice, yeah, um, all right, last thing you ready?
Okay, the Mongolian horse.
Okay, so I've been reading, andI've allowed into my
consumption stories of becauseI've been reading a lot of
history, more like history ofconsciousness, history of
(36:04):
religion, um, uh, just thehistory and philosophy like the
evolution of mankind and war andall that kind of stuff.
So, um, see, in the developmentof war and how people do things
and that kind of stuff, it'skind of kind of interesting.
So I started reading about theMongolians, the Mongolian war
and the Mongolian horses, and Ithink we're going to do a little
(36:27):
deep dive on this in the futurebecause it's really fascinated
by it.
But I just got a couple ofquick, awesome things that I
read the other day.
Okay, Thing one have you heardof the Mongolian horse?
Speaker 1 (36:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Well, I've heard of Mongolian beef.
I wonder if that's made ofhorses, just kidding Beef?
Um, so they could travel 60 to100 miles a day, these warriors.
Okay, one thing that I'velearned about working with
businesses and founders for along time is founders tend to
businesses tend to um.
(37:02):
Fear of confrontation, um,prohibits them from firing bad
employees, right, and so bademployees stick around and their
energy sucks and they'rereducing efficiency and output.
So the A players, or the goodemployees, have to make up for
that, and they become overworked, yes, and then they burn out
(37:25):
and quit yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I've I've had some experience with this, yeah.
Yeah, the A player or the onefire and all the A player.
I know just kidding.
We work very hard in our family.
I've had some experience beinglazy and watching all the A
players work hard.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
So, but one thing that I read about these warriors
is they had, when they weregoing on these very focused
whatever they would call themthen for them battles whatever
Campaign.
Campaigns.
Yeah, they would have four tosix horses per person and they
spent time with their horsesbecause that's how they, you
(38:06):
know, that's how they would hunt, that's how they would travel
naturally.
So they naturally were justgreat horsemen, but they would
have several horses and theyloved their horses and so then
they knew how to not burn outtheir horses and so they
strategically used these horsesto be able to do that 60 to 100
(38:26):
miles in a day.
Another thing I read that waspretty cool is their intake into
becoming a warrior.
So of course, me and mybusiness brain I'm like one
thing that business is reallystruggle with is hiring and
onboarding.
I've seen people go a monthwithout even having a computer.
(38:48):
They're just sitting there andthey're getting paid.
They're getting paid, yep, so.
But anyway I'm kind of having Ididn't serve.
So a lot of this stuff is justinteresting for me from an
outside perspective.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I didn't have that experience in life, so it's
pretty cool to you know, I canonly read and kind of attach it
to what I'm familiar with, yeah,which is business stuff.
But last thing I'll say that Ithought was really really cool
is one of their strategies isthey would go appear as if they
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were about to engage in battle,look scared, retreat.
Well, their opposition wouldchase them, but they were just
toying with them Sending up thetrap, yes, they would let them,
chase them.
They would go just fast enoughto where they couldn't catch
them, but fast enough to wherethey had to chase them for long
(39:50):
enough, where they would tireout.
And then they would circle them, shoot them with a bunch of
arrows and then run in with thebig dogs and, close proximity,
just absolutely destroy them,massacre, yeah.
And I love that idea becauseit's like we burn out never
(40:11):
retreating, never retracting,never pruning.
So the principle that I tookfrom that even though it was
very strategic on their behalfis sometimes we feel like we
always have to look our best andpresent our best and appear as
if we're in our best form as abusiness.
(40:31):
Yeah, we've grown, we've donethis, we're growing, we're
growing, we're growing.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
You know, sometimes we might need to retreat,
retract, prune To reposition Toreposition or to spring a trap,
spring a trap, so anyway.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
So you can slaughter the competition.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
You did right.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
That's all I got, bro .
I think I'm done, all right,but.
Welcome to the Focus Cast, episode 102.
Today we're talking about somegoals, that's right.
Some physicality, physicality,let's get physical.
Hmm, and what was?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
the other thing we're going to surprise ourselves by
talking a little bit about theMongolian warriors and horses
and how we can relate that toSusie in a meeting.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Nice, very nice.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It's going to be a fun day today, so let's hop in.
Yeah, sweet, what's your name?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Jonathan Noel.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
And I'm Brian Noel.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
This is the Focus Cast.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Where we help reduce distractions, increase focus, so
we can live our life withintentions.
That's right Understanding freewill.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
It changes things, huh yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
You can live whatever life that you want, and I'm not
judging.
Yeah, we're going to talk alittle bit about judgment today.
We're going to start talkingabout goals.
There we go.
So here's how this came up, bro.
All right, I was on, I had apost for Instagram, ok, and for
(01:11):
some reason last night I wasjust thinking there was a
football game on and I waslistening to a book.
So I have the football game onon zero Because I'm not as
interested in the football gamebut I like to watch it.
But I can't just watch it.
I have to do something else.
So I'm listening to a book.
(01:32):
It's a really good book byStanislaw Groff, psychiatrist
from the 60s, 70s and 80s.
But anyway, that's anotherstory and I was just thinking
about man.
As my perspective has changed,my mind has changed my body is
changing all these things arechanging.
I was like my goals have reallychanged my framework and how I
(01:55):
set goals is changing, and thatmakes sense.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
As your viewpoint expands, you kind of have a
different idea of where you'llwant to go.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, so you know me.
I've been a goal-oriented humanbeing for a long time.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I remember I saw your book.
I must have been in my early20s and you showed me your book
with the five-year plan.
This was so alien to me.
The thought of having amulti-year written out.
It wasn't just, by the way, forthe listeners, it wasn't just a
page that said in five years Iwant this.
I mean, it was a book full ofthe steps to get there and
(02:36):
one-year plan too.
Yada, yada.
I was like holy shit bro.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
While some people had a black book of hookups, I had
a black book of businesses andideas and strategies.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Because I was already married.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's funny.
I think I was either mostmemorable or most likely to
succeed.
It must have been mostmemorable that I was voted in
high school.
Really, you got one of those.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, damn, look at you.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
That's awesome.
I think it was the trench coatsand the spray painted combat
boots that I got from the Armysurplus store.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Most likely it ended up on the news award.
Oh, I remember that guy.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
So, anyway, I've had a lot of goals and I've always
had.
We've talked about this a lotnow.
So for me I lived in the futureRight, disassociation, right.
So I lived in the future but Ihad low level anxiety that I
wasn't doing enough in thepresent.
So it's natural for someonelike that in that state to
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constantly have written downvery well executed visions of
the future Right.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
That was how I could somewhat control we fit this
before.
Live in the future causeanxiety, live in the past
usually causes depression, andso you dealt with your anxiety
by having a very detailedthought out plan.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and a lot of those things didn't
work.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
It was never really about them working.
It was something to make youfeel OK.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yes, that's exactly right.
I just needed to feel safe.
Exactly, I felt safe.
What was to have a plan?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
What was to have a five year plan.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And it naturally evolved.
Yeah, of course Because itnever was the today plan.
Yeah, it was always the futureplan yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I just everything's going to change.
So much Is there.
Can you actually dream ofsomething and it be the exact
same as you thought of it infive years from now?
I mean maybe a few people.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Without deviation, I don't know.
I mean, maybe we can ask ElonMusk.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, maybe he Maybe.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
He saw it, but I would assume he would agree that
the path to get there hasdefinitely been a little rocky,
rocky, rock get Anyway.
So that's a great segue, bro.
So that's what my goals used tolook like, right, even for this
podcast.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
A slightly manic, borderline, obsessive way to
feel safe and ride it all out.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, and that's what you needed, that's totally fine
, that's what I needed, andwhat's crazy about that is, in
the business community, anyonewho bumped into me respected
that.
They were like, damn, you got agreat plan.
You're going to make it.
But they didn't realize, and Ididn't realize, that that plan
was just based on needing safetybecause of my anxiety.
So before we complimentsomeone's great plans, roast
(05:39):
them first.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I'm just kidding, I'm totally kidding.
Ask them if they're OK.
That's what you should do.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Man, I really like this plan.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Are you all right?
Are you OK?
How have you been feelinglately?
What?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
if it doesn't work, it's going to work.
So this is how I am deciding toapproach goal setting in the
future.
Ok, all right.
So this is what I wrote on myInstagram, that's what I'm
reading, that's what I'm holdingmy phone right now.
So I said, though the work ishard, the goals have reduced in
(06:12):
complexity.
I've got to have some nicelittle statement to set it up.
Oh, of course.
Anyway, so the goal for themind, my goal for the mind, is
to work on and increase presenceand observation without
(06:33):
judgment.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, you want to be present in this thing called
love?
Yeah, or you can have love forpeople without judging them.
Yeah, that's new for me.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, so New for myself too, oh, absolutely.
Observation of self andobservation of the world without
judgment, just observing.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
The amount of compassion you can have for
others is usually an indicatorfor how much you have for
yourself.
Boom, just saying, it's hard tohave it for others if you don't
have it for yourself.
Damn right, bro.
So it's kind of a borrower, abarometer.
So if you can cultivate andstart to love yourself, and
typically that goes to thepeople around you, because you
(07:18):
can empathize with what's goingon in their life.
Yeah, man, that's good.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I think that's a Buddhist meditation principle
the observation without judgment.
So I was listening to this bookand this is all new to me.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
So someone might be like that wasn't Buddhist, that
was this, and that's fine,because I've read a lot of books
.
Now I'm just pulling principlesI don't know where from, but
I'm not judging, that's what I'mnot doing Anyway.
But they talked about it andthey said step one is to be able
to in meditation and the levelsof meditation.
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Step one is to you have thesejudgments come up and these
emotions are attached tojudgments and first just observe
them, like, just like, oh man,you're really frustrated or
whatever.
Just observe it, and then youstart progressing into this
phase where you can observe itwithout judging it.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Right, you're angry.
You shouldn't be angry.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
No no.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You're angry.
This is just the thing that'shappening.
It doesn't define me.
It's not who I am, yeah, justlook at it.
I am not an angry person.
I'm a being experiencing anger.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yes, at the moment.
At the moment, and then, whenyou're not judging it, you have
the opportunity to actuallyobserve it and see where it's
coming from, which then helpsyou process it and go below it,
because you're not stuck in theminutia.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You're not stuck in the emotion of it.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I remember one time my wife and I were a little
aggravated at each other.
Quick caveat before I tell thisstory.
So you know they talk about thehoneymoon phase For people.
It's beautiful for the firstthree years and five years and
then it just kind of gets worseand worse and worse.
That's how some people describemarriage.
My wife and I our marriage hasbeen the opposite.
(09:19):
We hated each other for thefirst three to five years and
then now we love each other morethan ever.
That's wonderful.
So it went backwards.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
That's better.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
What I realized is marriage is a mirror, and I
hated myself, but anyway, therewas one time that she Made me
mad, or, if I say it correctly,she was a mirror in which Boiled
up some anger that I had formyself from my past, yeah and I
remember I punched a hole in thewall and then turn around and
(09:49):
Roundhouse kick the fridge.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I Saw it in my head as you described it, because it
was that little apartment.
Yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, yeah so, but what was so great about the
whole experience was the secondI did that.
I was like I feel better, butnow I got to fix this hole.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I mean, it was a release.
Yeah, so anyway and you got toget out of the house.
Go to home depot and buy some.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, that patch.
I was not good at patchwork.
You could see that spot for along time.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
So yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
That's mind presence plus observation without
judgment, mm-hmm.
Those are the two goals.
Be present, observe withoutjudgment, mm-hmm, the body goal.
You ready for this?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
This is really coming from two years of talking about
focus in the body from ourpodcast.
Yeah, but serotonin balance,which we?
I read a book called Hacking ofthe American mind that talks
about the dopamine addiction.
Yeah and how we were alladdicted to cheap highs, mm-hmm,
the dopamine has for astimulation, the nonstop, yes,
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stimulation which offsets ourserotonin.
Yeah, and and again.
There's a lot more science anddetails to that.
So if anyone is in that space,yeah, check out Huberman lab.
We're not yeah, yeah, this isobviously a this is yeah, it's
my goal general goal butdopamine detox and Serotonin
reset.
That's the goal this year.
(11:20):
Nice, through the food I eat,the toxins I do not.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That's pretty specific, yeah, but a diet
exercise overhaul is gonna dolike a full hormone reset for
you.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
And then you can be like those enlightened yogis who
just sit there and look likethey're stoned all the time.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I have to stop getting stoned.
To get stoned there's there'sdifferent levels of being stoned
on.
And then the next is aparasympathetic nervous system.
Balance, fear and all thatstuff really strikes the
sympathetic nervous system.
Fight or flight triggers thatamygdala, makes it fat and honey
.
And then you're just living ina fear, fight, flight or fawn
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state.
Yes and but.
The parasympathetic nerve issleep and peace and healing and
healing and all that stuff.
Your body can take care of itsfunctions and Some people say
that the parasympathetic nervoussystem is how we access the
greater power interesting?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, it definitely is easier to think and
Articulate and work throughthings.
Yeah, not in fight or flight.
Yeah, if you can engage theparasympathetic nerve or that
whole system, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
it's a different experience, I even read
somewhere and I looked it up, inthe first 10 articles, some of
those being like Med journals.
So, based on my very quick passthrough of this, that you can't
have fear and Creativity, orfear and curiosity at the same
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time.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, it's two different partsof the brain.
So when fear is at, all timehigh.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I just know when I, if my amygdala is engaged and
that fear state is there.
I'm not thinking about a coolguitar chord progression.
Are creative things.
Yeah, it's just not even yeah,a consideration at that point,
it's yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
So how sad is it that people in their relaxed state
use their creativity to createthings that cause fear, so other
people can't access theircreativity.
That's kind of tragic.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
It almost seems like if you were doing it from
purpose.
Yeah, be to keep people in a.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
In a fear state Wow, what dicks.
Oh yeah, that's right, we'resupposed to cuss less this year.
Sorry, mom, Listen episode 101for that if you want the
background.
So, yes, that's the body goal.
So again, not like I want toweigh this much, I want to lift
this much, I want to you know.
No, no crazy data, no, nothing.
I just want to learn about theserotonin and the
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parasympathetic nerve,seraparasempathetic nervous
system, and I want to learn moreabout it and I want to do
things in my life that balancethose out.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
That's right, because that's basically where
meditation starts.
Yeah, a little bit of breath,breath work to disengage the
amygdala, activate theparasympathetic, so you can
actually sit there instead ofthinking about the world ending.
Yeah, you can be relaxed andthat's pretty much where it
starts.
That's like the baseline, man.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah well, I do have something to talk about later in
the episode, and I think I hitmy first baseline of meditation.
Oh, and I'm gonna talk aboutthe products that I purchased
that helped me get there.
Listen, for those of you whostruggle with meditation, you
might want to try this.
I'll talk about that later.
All right, all right, so that'smind, body and soul.
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Okay, so soul is Just curiosityand creativity.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
That's my goals.
How do I measure that?
I'll talk about metrics in aminute, but that's where I'm
focused for my soul.
I like them curious.
I'm just gonna keep readingI've read a lot of books in the
past month and a half and justkeep being creative.
Yeah, but creative withoutexpectations, right?
Like?
I gotta create a post ForInstagram that gets enough views
(15:24):
for us to get a sponsor.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Nope, nope sounds terrible, that sounds like
torture, yeah, that sounds likeNot.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
That sounds like the sympathetic nervous system.
So just be creative.
We made some music.
We're gonna throw that musicout in the world and see what
happens.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Worst-case scenario.
We get to listen to it onSpotify, and that's way easier
than going to Google Drive,because their interface is
horrible.
Yeah, and using Google Drive isterrible in general and it
makes me not like Google.
Yeah, actually I didn't reallylike them anyway, because they
steal all our data, but yeah andrecord everything, and they're
basically an extension of theNSA, but that's a whole nother
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thing.
So, anyway, what's next bro?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
and one opportunity.
Even we get to enjoy it.
But I will say I'll have alittle bit of a self pride
moment, mm-hmm, when I get tosend a Spotify playlist of music
that we wrote to my friends.
Yeah, that's gonna be cool.
I've never done that before.
It's gonna be a new one.
(16:32):
Yeah, I'm pretty excited.
So that's my body.
So how am I going to measureprogress?
What are my milestones?
Right, yeah, you ready, I'mready.
Embrace pain plus self grace.
So what does that mean for me?
So, in brace pain mentally, asI work through some trauma, this
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past year there's been somepain involved, some
uncomfortable times, yep.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
That's working through trauma tends to do that.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah, so this year I shared on the last podcast
podcast last episode.
I will be continuing to embracepain in the mental, in the mind
, but also adding embracing painin the body right.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
We're adding physical goals into this year because
we've never had really truephysical goals.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I've never done it either.
Yeah, we talked about that inthe whole last episode.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, so and then self-crace.
So when I don't want toexperience pain and I just want
to take a break and I just wantto relax and eat a ham sandwich
and watch football, I'm gonna dothat.
Hmm, and I'm not gonna sitthere and go.
Well, you could be doing this.
You could be working on yourcell strategy, you could be
playing for the next podcast.
You give it a lot of blah, blah, blah blah.
(17:50):
I'm not gonna do that.
I'm just gonna sit there andenjoy my ham sandwich and watch
football game.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, so you're not taking the David Goggins
approach.
I'm just kidding no.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
That thing, that's totally fine.
You have to be.
I mean, honestly, that's theself-care piece too a little bit
and self-compassion.
I don't think he races everyday.
No, His off days are like justa quick seven mile run.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, I mean that's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
But the point is, is some of the trauma stuff like
pulling that up and dealing withit?
Sometimes you just need somecomfort.
It's that simple.
It's not only work.
Yeah, so, yeah, so.
Sometimes you just want a hamsandwich at two in the morning
and yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Watch something Some chocolate.
So I saw a graph that I thoughtwas pretty cool on the Insta
and this guy was like it fillsup and down linearly, but really
it's up and down with an upwardprojection.
If you keep doing the work,like for us, it's just like a
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stock.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
It's just like a stock, that's yeah, over our
past 30 years that overall trend.
The 200 day moving average isup, yeah, but that doesn't mean
it goes up every day, no, itmight have a couple of five to
8% swings.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, Occasionally, a 20% swing Occasionally, but
that's an up and down swing too,yeah.
So, but collectively, averagewe going up, bro, exactly we
going up.
Yeah, it's not a straight line,nope, all right, you know what
my finish line goal is?
What's that?
It's blank.
(19:39):
Ooh, mysterious.
Yeah, that was so intentional.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
To be continued.
There is no finish line.
All right, it's a state of mind.
Yeah Right, growth, growth isthe point.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
If you're trying to grow, is there a whatever, a
finish line?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
No, there'll be little mini finish lines along
the way when we make it acrossthe line of that 365 mile race
that we're doing in August.
When we when I did a coldshower this morning it was
probably the coldest shower ofthe year and I did it that was a
little mini finish line.
Yeah, totally, I finished myass right out of that shower.
Yeah, that was fun you were up.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
You had to wake up at two in the morning for
something.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
You didn't get much sleep.
Yeah, taking the cold shower isone thing when you feel great,
but when you're tired and it'slike super early, it makes it
really hard to hop in that water.
You just really ask yourself amI stupid or just like?
What is the point of this?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
A long hot shower this morning.
I was just like what do youwant?
I was like I want a long hotshower and my wife got a little
speaker that goes in the showerand at first I was kind of like
making fun of her for it.
And then I turned on some musicwhile I was in the shower and I
was like this is the greatestthing I've ever had in my life.
You remember the rich mansionsfrom the TV shows from the 80s
(20:58):
and 90s when they had a phone inthe shower.
I got the cord corded phone inthe shower, because it yeah
apparently the guy was so busyand take a phone call in the
shower.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Why would anyone agree to that?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I don't know.
He probably used it more forphone sex than he did for
business calls.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Let's be honest, I'm in the shower.
Yeah, I know I can barely hearyou.
All right, so that's yeah,goals, man.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
That's how my goals have changed from the past,
however long to now.
It feels better already.
I like that.
I feel less stressed.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
That's wonderful.
Yeah, I like that.
You know I've never had goals.
I don't know if we wanted totalk about that.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
How do you live?
That's so foreign to me.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I've never really had goals.
I have a like here and there.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
What's an example?
Hello to you 34.
Hello, what's an example of a34 year olds here and there?
Goal.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Well, when I wanted to get the 107 part 107 drone
license, oh yeah, I was like Iwant to do this, I'm going to
study for the test, and I didand it was fine, nice.
So it was a little mini goal.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I like that.
I've never had big goals.
Yeah, do you have goals now?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Not really.
No, it's not necessarily for me.
I think it's more the mindset,the growth Embracing that daily,
and then the things just kindof happen If you feel like you
want something and you just doit.
(22:36):
Sure, I don't know, this may besomething that needs a change,
but we're doing the physicalgoal, like our 357 mile bike
ride.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
That's the biggest goal physically I've ever had in
my life Same.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
So I think everything's it's kind of
volatile when you start likewanting to just grow and evolve,
yeah, that it's like.
Now I have even less of areason to that's true.
Yeah, two set goals no, I don'tknow.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
We need some on a psychiatrist or something.
What is it?
What is it Psychologist?
Psychologist or someone to helpflush it out, or a psychiatrist
?
What does that mean?
That I don't that I never setgoals.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Well, it's funny because, because I don't want to
fail yeah.
Maybe, if you don't set them,you don't fail.
Yeah, that might be the casefor some people, for sure.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, that's probably .
Preemptively strike a failure.
Yeah, yeah, if you don't setthem, you can't fail.
You can't fail something younever tried.
Yeah, that's true.
That's probably yeah, so it'sprobably mostly that, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
But I was talking to a business friend the other day
and he said man, where are youat?
And I said, well, honestly,I've got a physical goal this
year, but business wise I justdon't care, like, as long as I
can be curious and creative.
I mean I'm gonna do stuff andI'm gonna work and I'm gonna see
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things through.
But for the first time I justdon't care if they work or not.
I wanna provide for my family.
Obviously I like to be able tobuy things when I want them.
Who doesn't?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
But outside of that, whatever, yeah and not having
goals doesn't mean I'm not doinganything either.
Obviously True, it's not.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Hey, you posted that picture on your Instagram.
Physically, you've been doingsome things in the last five or
seven years.
Yeah, that has been a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
The now and then.
The now and then.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
They're then and now Go check out.
Was it John Z Lenine?
John Z Lenine?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
About your Insta.
Well, that was just a story, soI should post it on my timeline
.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
It's pretty great, anyway, all right, so physical.
Now, that's the goals setting,that's how they've changed over
two years and some of thecraziness that the new, the new
arrival, the new conclusionsbased on all the work that we've
been doing mentally and for mepersonally, yeah, the broader
(25:21):
viewpoint yeah, so Achieved.
Now physical.
So we wanted to ride 30 miles.
The other day it was pouringdown rain, all the trails were
closed, so we said, well, we'lljust go hike for five hours,
because that's how much time wehad, and we filled our bags.
I need my wife's dumbbell bag,by the way.
(25:41):
Is that in the truck?
Yes sweet she's like.
Now I'm gonna have to work outwith 15 pound weights she did.
Nice, I helped, yeah, you did,but so we put a bunch of weight
in our bags anywhere between 20and 30 pounds, and we just
walked for five hours.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, and you know what I thought for some people?
They're gonna be like okay,that's a nice warm up, yeah,
that's cute.
And that's fine and it's notlike it destroyed me, but at the
same time I was really tired.
Afterwards I don't know if it'sbecause we were, it was 45
degrees and it was raining, soit was like as soon as you
stopped moving, you wererealized how cold and wet it was
(26:22):
.
So I don't know if I was burningmore energy to stay warm or
something, but I felt like ittook more energy than it should
have because I've done 14 milehikes and I was tired, but this
like sucked it out of me In adifferent kind of way.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, it was pouring rain for the first two to two
and a half hours.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
And it was 45 degrees .
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, it was chilly and we had to move to stay warm.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, as soon as we stopped for a snack and some
water I remember five minutesI'm like, yeah, let's keep going
.
This is like not moving sucksmore than moving.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
But it felt great.
For me that's the first time Idid extended exercise in the
rain, and back to just the justhow good it felt in all of me.
Yeah, like it felt so good tobe out in the rain in the woods
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just moving.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yep, absolutely.
I don't know why.
There's lots of reasons.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Because of movement, because of being in nature.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, yeah, the acid rain, the acid rain helps.
Yeah, being in nature ishealing.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, big time.
So, oh, you wanna hearsomething crazy?
Yeah, what's?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
that Saw the other day.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
What's that?
That we actually could getenough energy that we needed to
sustain ourselves from groundingin the trees?
Whoa, we could reduce our foodintake significantly and be
completely actually morenourished if we spent more time
in the woods.
I don't know if that's true ornot.
(28:07):
I don't know if it'sscience-backed.
I just saw the video.
Sounds like some.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
TikTok, I'll just get it.
There's a thing called breatharian.
Yeah, people who basicallydon't eat, they just drink water
.
Breath arian.
Yeah breath arian, breath arian.
Of course, for some peoplelistening it'd be like that's
the dumbest shit I've ever heard.
I just wanna meet someone who isa breath arian, but I mean, I
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listened to a podcast and thewoman she wasn't trying to sell
it, she was basically like Idon't think most people should
ever do this.
It's for very select few.
So it's not.
There's no Ponzi scheme here.
There's no money in it.
It's really hard to sell.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
She's not really looking.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Don't consume, she's not really looking for too much
attention it seems like but,yeah.
Basically, you're whateverspiritually evolved enough to
where you don't have to eatanymore.
That's crazy, because you getenough energy from the sun and
breathing and water.
Wow.
So I don't know if she's doinglike Ironman competitions and
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what are those things calledLike the war.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Spartans, spartans, yeah, zombie and triathlons.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I don't know if you can do triathlons and just live
off of breathing, but you know,I don't know.
Check it out, whatever, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Thanks very much.
Uh, I hired a personal trainer,mm.
Hmm, so two days a week I'mdoing more weights and learning
new stretches and doing some ofthat work to offset being on the
bike so much and only workingthe same muscles on the bike,
(29:50):
yeah, so, um, I know that myback typically starts hurting
first when we do those longrides with a lot of rocks.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Mm, hmm.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
And so I got a strength in the core and other
parts of the body, yep, so Istarted that and I just did a
quick 30 minute meet the trainersession.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, last week Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Um, and he was just showing me a couple of things
and I couldn't walk for threedays barely.
I was pinging and around.
That's awesome, so that's agood sign.
Yeah, and that was my legs too.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, my legs are strong.
You thought you were, yeah,strong in some ways.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
So that's how I that's me.
And martial arts yeah, like mylegs are strong in certain ways.
Mountain biking yeah, you getinto some of these stances and
you're like you know, you startdoing that chicken shade here.
They start shaking, wobblingreal quick.
You look, how could I do this?
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I wonder if that's how that song, the wobble, was
written.
Dude just did a really hardworkout Do.
How does the wobble song go.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I forgot, oh, is that while?
While Wobble me wobble me,wobble me, wobble me, wobble.
But um, the point is, yes, it'snot just going to be cycling,
because we want a more wellrounded physical, like just
being more physically adept allaround.
Yeah, so that doesn't mean onlybiking.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Well, the trainer said to like doing just
traditional leg exercises likesquats and all that kind of
stuff.
The the stronger your musclesare, the less they use the
tenants, the tendons, thetendons.
And that's great, all thatstuff.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Then in mind hopefully my knee will stop.
Yeah, Making that interestingfeeling.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
So we're just going to, just going to keep it going.
So that's added that to theroutine.
Nice, um, maintaining our coldplunges.
My wife got me one of thoseportable cold plunges.
Yeah, we should have it reallyused in the summer, because I
don't want to buy ice all thetime, yeah, and I don't have a
cold pump.
But I tell you what, man, whatis 20 or 30 degrees outside and
I just feel that Joker up thenight before and let it sit all
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night and jump in there in themorning.
That's hardcore.
That stuff's cold.
I bet I'm just in the backyardplaying side of the neighbors.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, out there, yeah , feeling like um, just that
wild man with that white chestand all that hair.
They look out there and they'relike what is that thing?
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, what is?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
that?
What the fuck is that?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Why is he getting into a small little bath in the
bed?
How redneck is that?
I got a little bath, littlecircle bath, in the backyard.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Like showers broken.
Is that there washing my hair?
Um, no, it's great, yeah, it'sgreat.
Uh, I want to be able to dophysically First off.
I want to be able to do things.
Yeah, for a long time.
Yeah, you know, still active inthe 80s 90s you know, basically
till I die, and then able to dosome of these, these things,
(32:46):
that felt I won't say impossible, but that just felt like how
can people do that?
Yeah, like five years ago likehow do you run, how do you do a
try at the one Cause?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I'm not a great swimmer, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
So things that felt overwhelming, yeah.
But I reached that point whereit's like, oh, I can do that.
Yeah, I'm not saying that canbe easy, but I can do it.
Yeah, being reaching that pointwhere you can kind of just
tackle physically most things, Igot a good story there, bro.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
What's that?
I was at this event this pastweekend and these two military
dudes were there.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I know they were military because when I'm had
United States Marine Corpstattooed, yeah, that usually is
an indicator.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah, you don't do that unless you don't, or else
you're going to get called out,yep.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, um, and one of the guys was like like you know
those?
You know those, uh Instagramphotos of, like these men coming
out of the water?
Yeah, and you look at them andyou're just like, damn that man,
what a man, sure.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
That happens to me.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
sometimes I'm just like yeah, like well, what a
beefcake.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, yeah.
Like I tell you it's alwayssunny.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
I had so many sunny fans, uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I tell people I love men because I want to be one one
day.
So anyway, this guy was a man'sman, um, super nice guy, uh,
anyway.
So we had a break and I wasjust talking, they were talking
to each other and just kind ofinterjected myself and I was
like you know, what do you guysdo physically?
And they both like I'm talking,millisecond response, no
(34:20):
thinking at all, and they justsaid everything and I was just
like that's badass.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
It's badass because it's you want to reach that
point where you're versatile.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, everything they said run, bike, climb all these
races, swim, they do it all.
That's great, non-stop.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
So I'm into it.
Yeah, that's what I want to be,me too.
To where you know, for me it'score.
My core is weak and I can't sitdown and knock out a hundred
pushups in a row, if I'm beingjust totally honest right now
it's.
I'm not there yet.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
So get some of that good old fashioned PT and pull
ups these dudes who just hop upthe bar and do like 20 pull ups,
like it's nothing.
Oh my gosh, I mean, and I weighless now than I have since,
like you know, high school.
Wait, I weigh the same now as.
I did back then.
I gained weight and I lost it,but pull ups are still like, so
(35:22):
Definitely got some areas towork on the legs are pretty
strong.
The core is definitely.
I've been avoiding core foreveryeah, yeah, Because it's
notoriously the the lamest, notlamest.
I just, it sucks.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, let's be real, let's be real.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
So I've been avoiding it.
So, yeah, core upper, body.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Nice, yeah, um, all right, last thing you ready?
Okay, the Mongolian horse.
Okay, so I've been reading, andI've allowed into my
consumption stories of becauseI've been reading a lot of
history, more like history ofconsciousness, history of
(36:04):
religion, um, uh, just thehistory and philosophy like the
evolution of mankind and war andall that kind of stuff.
So, um, see, in the developmentof war and how people do things
and that kind of stuff, it'skind of kind of interesting.
So I started reading about theMongolians, the Mongolian war
and the Mongolian horses, and Ithink we're going to do a little
(36:27):
deep dive on this in the futurebecause it's really fascinated
by it.
But I just got a couple ofquick, awesome things that I
read the other day.
Okay, Thing one have you heardof the Mongolian horse?
Speaker 1 (36:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Well, I've heard of Mongolian beef.
I wonder if that's made ofhorses, just kidding Beef?
Um, so they could travel 60 to100 miles a day, these warriors.
Okay, one thing that I'velearned about working with
businesses and founders for along time is founders tend to
businesses tend to um.
(37:02):
Fear of confrontation, um,prohibits them from firing bad
employees, right, and so bademployees stick around and their
energy sucks and they'rereducing efficiency and output.
So the A players, or the goodemployees, have to make up for
that, and they become overworked, yes, and then they burn out
(37:25):
and quit yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I've I've had some experience with this, yeah.
Yeah, the A player or the onefire and all the A player.
I know just kidding.
We work very hard in our family.
I've had some experience beinglazy and watching all the A
players work hard.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
So, but one thing that I read about these warriors
is they had, when they weregoing on these very focused
whatever they would call themthen for them battles whatever
Campaign.
Campaigns.
Yeah, they would have four tosix horses per person and they
spent time with their horsesbecause that's how they, you
(38:06):
know, that's how they would hunt, that's how they would travel
naturally.
So they naturally were justgreat horsemen, but they would
have several horses and theyloved their horses and so then
they knew how to not burn outtheir horses and so they
strategically used these horsesto be able to do that 60 to 100
(38:26):
miles in a day.
Another thing I read that waspretty cool is their intake into
becoming a warrior.
So of course, me and mybusiness brain I'm like one
thing that business is reallystruggle with is hiring and
onboarding.
I've seen people go a monthwithout even having a computer.
(38:48):
They're just sitting there andthey're getting paid.
They're getting paid, yep, so.
But anyway I'm kind of having Ididn't serve.
So a lot of this stuff is justinteresting for me from an
outside perspective.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I didn't have that experience in life, so it's
pretty cool to you know, I canonly read and kind of attach it
to what I'm familiar with, yeah,which is business stuff.
But last thing I'll say that Ithought was really really cool
is one of their strategies isthey would go appear as if they
(39:27):
were about to engage in battle,look scared, retreat.
Well, their opposition wouldchase them, but they were just
toying with them Sending up thetrap, yes, they would let them,
chase them.
They would go just fast enoughto where they couldn't catch
them, but fast enough to wherethey had to chase them for long
(39:50):
enough, where they would tireout.
And then they would circle them, shoot them with a bunch of
arrows and then run in with thebig dogs and, close proximity,
just absolutely destroy them,massacre, yeah.
And I love that idea becauseit's like we burn out never
(40:11):
retreating, never retracting,never pruning.
So the principle that I tookfrom that even though it was
very strategic on their behalfis sometimes we feel like we
always have to look our best andpresent our best and appear as
if we're in our best form as abusiness.
(40:31):
Yeah, we've grown, we've donethis, we're growing, we're
growing, we're growing.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
You know, sometimes we might need to retreat,
retract, prune To reposition Toreposition or to spring a trap,
spring a trap, so anyway.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
So you can slaughter the competition.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
You did right.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
That's all I got, bro .
I think I'm done, all right,but.
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