February 16, 2024 • 38 mins
Welcome to The Focus Cast Episode 105, where we dive deep into the realms of self-discovery and personal growth. Join Jonathan and I to explore the transformative power of intentional inner work and the profound effects it can have on reshaping our inner narratives.
In this episode, Jonathan and I peel back the layers of our subconscious minds, uncovering the stories we've been telling ourselves and how they shape our realities. We discuss the liberating experience of rewriting these programs, shedding labels of inadequacy, and embracing a fresh perspective on life.
Venturing into the depths of emotional processing, we reflect on the frustration of untapped potential and the significance of living in alignment with our intuitive selves, especially in the entrepreneurial world. Our conversation delves into fear-based reactions and the importance of operating from a state of calm and curiosity.
As we wrap up, we celebrate the resilience and clarity that emerge from personal growth journeys, highlighting the universal human experiences of love, choice, and freedom. With humor and intentionality, we contemplate the symbols that unite us and the power of community in our pursuit of fulfillment.
Join us on The Focus Cast as we embark on a journey of introspection, empowerment, and endless possibilities for personal development. Tune in to craft a narrative of intentionality and fulfillment that resonates with anyone eager to expand their horizons.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning.
Good morning, sir.
This is episode 105.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
105,.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
I think yeah, it's February of 2024.
We're going to hit just aninteresting development in my
the way in which I process newinformation.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I like that Before we start.
I'm Jonathan Noel and I'm BrianNoel.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
This is the Focus Cast, where we help you reduce
distractions, increase focus soyou can live a life with
Intention, intention.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Be intentional.
Be intentional with yourintentions.
Yeah.
What if you have unintentionalintentions?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
That's our subconscious and I think that
drives the majority of mostpeople's life, pretty much yeah,
so we'll just jump right in.
Why not yeah?
Because then we're meetingsomeone for lunch, okay.
So okay, in articulating how Iapproach new information now
(01:09):
versus, say, a year ago, and whythat's significant, is because
I've been intentional aboutlearning how to.
I don't even know how toarticulate it, but just being
more grounded.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
But that's been the goal.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
A little context.
You had this association formost of your life, most of my
life, whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So I started.
For some of our followers wholistened to everything, you know
this.
But in quick summary, I startedtherapy just because I wanted
to clear mine and I wanted toremember some of my childhood.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, you had a big gap, or you didn't remember
anything?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, and then that was typical therapy EMDR doing
some stuff, breaking newterritory, clearing trauma,
peeling the onion Right, andthen it got to the core Right
and then it started gettingcrazy.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Then you started looking at how you do everything
differently.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, yeah, then we'll use some different.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
The next phase of work starts, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Different phrasing for different people in
different belief systems.
False self, true self.
I broke past the defaultnetwork.
I broke past the ego.
Access to the soul beyond justthe mind, Whatever you want to
say yeah, insert yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
What I realized is most of everything is all
talking about the same thing.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
The same feeling.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah Well, and if there's one thing that I have
learned in all of this work, isthat getting all flustered about
you using the right term or thewrong term.
I don't do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Well, isn't that something?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Isn't that great.
Yeah, I mean, language is notan absolute.
No, language is just the way inwhich we try to describe what
the is going on in this world,all of us are feeling the same
thing, just explaining it indifferent ways.
Yeah, yeah, so, okay, cool.
So here's the situation orhere's the scenario.
(03:24):
So the very specific work isreprogramming.
We've talked aboutinter-narrative, we've talked
about inter-critic, we've talkedabout the manager, the manager
in the internal family systemsand how the manager tells you
what to do every day.
We've talked aboutintrospective work.
(03:47):
So we've talked around this.
But the past two and a halfmonths, really since November,
since I broke through thesurface or got to some of the
core, is reprogramming.
(04:09):
Yeah, so for me, some of theprograms, some of the scripts I
talked about this, I think, inepisode 101, but you're cursed,
you're a failure, all those kindof programs that are
subconscious.
I wasn't like a depressed, sadperson that every time you talk
to me I was just like, oh, I'msuch a loser.
It was more like I'm a veryoptimistic person but deep
(04:31):
inside I didn't believe it,because it was a program run
into my subconscious that I wascursed.
So now it's reprogramming andwhat's interesting from the
delineation between just purecognitive therapy, behavioral
therapy change your behavior andthen you'll slowly Versus what
(04:56):
I feel like I've been doing,which is radical, deep soul work
.
So I don't feel like I'm justworking in the prefrontal cortex
and the amygdala, the thinkingbrain or the process, and
(05:17):
emotional brain.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You moved on to.
It feels like the whole packageyeah.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Now again, that just may be what it feels like.
I don't know.
I'm not saying that's wrong orwhatever.
I'm not picking a side here butthat's what it feels like to me
.
It feels like moving out of thebrain.
So in reprogramming also thework to this concept of radical
(05:45):
non-judgment which we talkedabout, so the negative programs
and the negative judgment,self-judgment, definitely
control a lot of our thinkingenergy as human beings?
Yeah, most definitely so.
What's been fun about the workis to start to pull apart the
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emotional response to theenvironment and then to be able
to run a new program free fromjudgment.
Here's an example.
So in being an entrepreneur,there's ups, there's downs.
There's just part of the course.
(06:34):
And what's been reallyinteresting is, in the past
couple of months, as I've beenkind of catapulted because of a
session I did on November 11th.
I've been kind of catapultedinto this like intense
introspective work to challengemy entire default network, which
(07:01):
is everything I know to be true.
My default network, yeah, doesOn Venus, you know, like just
these things.
Like default network is likeyou can drive and think about
something else at the same time.
You know, it's as simple as that, but it says Complex is like if
you grew up where you had a momwho got stressed out every
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holiday because everything hadto be perfect, but she made it
not perfect because she was sostressed out and she yelled at
every everyone your defaultnetwork is.
That's the way holidays go.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Right, right.
Yeah, that's just you.
That's all you've seen.
Yeah, that's what you know.
It's a reprogram, yeah, that oh, holidays aren't perfection,
doesn't make.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Joy, yeah, and the purpose of holiday is joy, right
, so letting go, so anyway.
So so before you know, I've,I've.
I've tried things as anentrepreneur my whole life, you
know, since we had a recordingstudio and I was in middle
school, so I'm familiar withthings working and things not
working.
Yeah that's nothing new there.
(08:07):
Yeah, nothing new there.
So in the past the program thatwould run when I hit a
roadblock or Something came upWould to.
The program would run that Itold you so yeah, your failure.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
This was never gonna work.
Yeah and stuff for you thinkingall that, yeah, the usual
suspects.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
So this is the first time in the history of my life
that I know of mm-hmm where, innavigating these Just typical
things, when I was hit withinformation, the negative
program didn't run at all.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
You just Kind of zoomed out and looked at it.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
It's pretty interesting.
I what I could see was clearseparation between the emotional
response and the programs, thescripts Running to analyze the
emotional response.
So what I saw for the firsttime was a clear delineation and
detachment from that theEmotional response to the
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situation, and then what programI was able to apply to the
emotion in response to theexternal event, mm-hmm.
So I didn't experience a flashof emotion and Then the script
told me what it was.
I got to literally experiencethe emotion and then, with my
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logical brain, ask myself Iguess my subconscious, I don't
really know, maybe I should talkto a psychiatrist or someone a
neurologist, but my thinkingbrain got to literally Talk to
the subconscious and say whatprogram are we gonna run in
response to this, to apply tothis emotional response to the
(10:03):
situation?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Is that not?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
insane.
That's pretty amazing.
So then the thinking brain Iwas able to say it's okay to
feel disappointed.
Yeah, Completely free fromjudgment right.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
That's way different than feeling like a failure and
everything you do is cursed.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, I was literally able to say I feel disappointed
.
And it's okay to feeldisappointed.
Yeah, it's okay to be cautiousor now a bit Curious or nervous
about you know.
(10:42):
Okay, cool.
Well, what's next?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, and instead of it's likewell, if it's okay to feel that
way, I have a family, I havekids.
You know I want to, I want toprovide for them.
You know I want to do all thesethings as a man and as a as a
human, but instead of that, liketypical, like you know, you're
not gonna be able to provide foryour family.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Your friend is gonna think you're a.
You know all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
For me, letting down my family was one of the core
fears.
Mm-hmm.
I actually, in a therapysession, visualized sitting at
the table, having to Tell myfamily that I'm a failure and
them realizing it.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
You did that in a session.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, and that was like that's just what came up
and and that produced one of thecore fears.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, I Think this one's pretty Common, yeah, cuz I
have some too.
Yeah you know it's like notwanting to fail Anyone that you
care about.
Yeah, of course, right, which,if you go to the bottom of that,
I think that just ends that youdon't want to fail the creator.
(11:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, or you have a construed version of the creator
and yeah, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
The point is it still sucks.
Yeah when you feel like youfailed, even if you didn't.
Yeah, so that's a default.
Whatever program script orProgram script, whatever the
hell you name, whatever name, itdoesn't matter.
Whatever you want to call it towork through, yeah we should
start creating new words.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
What does that word mean?
We just give it a meaning.
But yeah, so it was actually,and all this is pretty recent
for me, so it was.
It's been really interesting toActually be able to work
through this in this way, youknow, to be able to.
(12:48):
It's almost like now that I'vecause.
Y'all have heard me say thisbefore.
Jonathan, you mentioned thisbefore.
So for me, in therapy, I'm notjust going to therapy and about
life.
I prepare for what I want toget out of that session.
This is the way I approach anyany, whether it's a business
mentor, whether it's my freakingCPA, You're squeezing as much
out of it as you can.
Absolutely Prepare for themeeting.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Go in.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Super intentional in the meeting focused and then
process after the meeting Writenotes afterwards yeah, and then
we talk about it on here.
Yeah, and it's like about it,it's like four therapy sessions
in one.
And then anything that comes up, I read books about it.
Yeah, so I've been extremelyintentional.
So this the process for me,right?
Yeah, and everyone's probably alittle different, obviously,
there's probably somecommonalities, but the process
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for me so I've, I've, I've ranthese reps of.
Here's how my brain works.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
You're understanding the mechanism more?
Yes, and when you andunderstanding the mechanism, you
can thwart some of the defaultreactions.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, and I can go through the process of quote
therapy in my head on my own.
Yeah, when something comes up,I don't.
Now it's not like, oh my gosh,I have to call my therapist and
we have to.
She's got to work through thiswith me, right, I don't?
You have tools?
Yeah, I have tools, it's.
I was able to sit down and say,well, first thing I was able to
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do, which now this is like thesteps in receiving information
you know, apply them to yourselfif you want this.
First, I was able to just sayoh, I'm not going to logically
start trying to analyze this,I'm just going to give it 24
(14:37):
hours and just facts, or facts?
Let me emotionally respond toit personally.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, let me just see what, instead of doing a
reaction or email immediately?
Exactly how could you possibly?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, any of that.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Why was this going on ?
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
So first it's just like okay, noted.
And.
I didn't.
You don't avoid either right,right, that's it doesn't text
you for a week, so just replyand say, great, I'm going to
think about this for a day andthen we'll figure it out.
So then, for me personally,that's given myself a day to not
jump into decision making, youknow a decision making stance,
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just to kind of allow myself andthen feeling.
What's been really cool is justfeeling the emotions in the
body and then the mind goingokay, cool, what programmer
we're going to use to analyzethese emotions and then, instead
of grabbing the old programs,which are just to apply a bunch
of negativity to it, apply thenew programs, which is okay,
(15:40):
cool.
What are you?
What's the word attached to thefeeling?
What age do you feel, which Ilove it with my therapy?
My therapist asked thatquestion.
I'm like I feel this and she'slike what?
How old are you?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, what age do you feel this?
Yeah, I've never done that.
It's wild.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, if you really think about it, then you'll go
to that age and you'll go to amemory of being that.
So then I'm like, okay, cool,what does that age feel like?
You know, five, 12, whatever,or now you know.
And then it's like, okay, cool,what is it, you know?
Disappointment, frustration,fear, whatever those core things
(16:20):
, fear against your basic needsafety provision, shelter.
Fear against or frustrationagainst our Second need or
whatever need, which is our ego,desire to be respected, all
that kind of stuff.
And and then say, okay, cool,and then not judge it, but to
accept it.
(16:41):
It's okay to feel that way.
Process through it Mm-hmm Kindof for me so far it's been spent
some time in that space.
It's okay, just kind of readit's okay, reinforcing that yeah
like it's okay to feel that way.
Go to sleep, wake up.
It's okay to feel that way.
And then what I found myselfnext is Well, how does this
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relate to me personally, howdoes it relate to now and how
does it relate to what I reallywant to give this world, that I
feel like I have?
Mm-hmm.
So this morning I was in my headand Drop and guss off at school
and I was just like as avisionary, I my mind goes to
these details and and I quicklyend up in these this is what
(17:28):
this could be.
Mm-hmm, right, not like pie inthe sky, but, like you know me,
like, yeah, all of the mechanicsassociated with it.
Mm-hmm.
So when I really was, when Icame to a place to truly
articulate the emotion for mepersonally, is in this concept
of in material Mm-hmm, in thephysical, like understanding
(17:54):
that the physical is.
You know, quantum physicssuggests there is no, there is
no hard matter.
Everything is frequency,everything is waves, yeah,
everything actually is movement,mm-hmm.
So if we look beyond just thematerial and and for me asking,
in the, in the concept of thiswhole construct, mm-hmm, I have
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in my mind Created what seems tobe Something that could be
really special, and it's notjust any particular thing, it's
the way my brain works, mm-hmm,right.
And I think a lot of us,because a lot of us are creative
, we see what could be Right,whether that's, we see what our
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kids could be, we see what ourfriends.
We see what we could do, right,that's just kind of how we
operate, yeah, but for mepersonally it was like Well,
what I do with that now?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Where does that go?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Seeing the potential yeah, so I think for me, what I
found and discovered as of thismorning Is the negative Pain.
Is I feel like I can contributemore value to the world that
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I'm currently giving?
Yeah, it's not enough right andI feel like, when some of these
things come up, or even in ourpodcast, sometimes it's like I
Feel like we're being sotransparent and honest and just
(19:37):
Loosely sharing our Truths,truths and transformation, and
it and sometimes and againnegative, positive, whatever.
Sometimes I'm like wouldn'tthat benefit more people than
the 15 or 20 people thatdownload the podcast?
You know what I mean.
Yeah and then it, and then itjust really falls back to is
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this giving us value?
And if it is, we'll keep doingit, and if it's not, we'll stop.
Yeah, because that's all we cancontrol.
Yeah, but the letdown for me asI cool as I was able to attack,
articulate it this morning wasI Feel like I have more to give,
(20:20):
that is being received, of theentire construct of the life
that I live.
Now.
Whether that's true or not, itdoesn't matter, mm-hmm, because
right now I'm just able toarticulate why I'm Not let down.
But what's the word?
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Disappointed, disappointed?
So now, today, tomorrow, I'llfigure out what to do with that.
But that's where I'm at yeah.
So what's funny and what's greatabout all this is in this
introspective.
It has nothing to do withanyone or anything externally.
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This is all me processing,taking, allowing an external
material yeah right.
Mm-hmm.
And this makes sense to us.
I don't know if it does thelistener, because we're, you
know, going through this wholematerial world, spiritual world
thing, but, like quantum physicsthing, I'm just throwing out
(21:25):
some words out there.
So if you, if you stick, if anyof them are sticky for you in
listening to this but it hasnothing to do with the material,
it has absolutely nothing.
What's cool about the processis realizing it's all internal
and doing the introspective workis I can make it.
I can take any circumstance andapply it to how I want to grow
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as an individual.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
You taking your power back.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, because, regardless of what's happened
externally, whether right youthis thing, this project,
whether it's the podcast,whether it's a project with
somebody, you are not an effectof outside circumstances.
In this moment.
I'll say you're less of effect.
I'm choosing to take inparticular external event right
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and using that event to evokethe emotions, to process the
emotions, to Use that as amoment to better understand
myself right Instead ofcompletely reactionary.
Yeah, or completely staying inthe material.
Well, what should I do?
What are we gonna do?
How?
What's the next iteration,what's the next phase?
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You know what I'm saying?
So, and I don't know if that'sthe right thing to do, I don't
really know, but that's what I'mchoosing to do right now
because obviously there still isthe material, there still is
the thing, but there's.
For me you know, I'm anentrepreneur, I got a lot of
ideas there's always gonna be athing, always, always always,
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always, always and as I'm Reallysinking into this idea of
curious and creative, With noboundaries for the rest of my
life.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Then there's even more, then there's even more,
than it never ends yeah sothat's how I'm I.
Like it.
We were talking about thisyesterday, but it's a little bit
of.
My teacher calls it theanalyzer, but it's a little bit
of stepping out of the analyzer,so much.
(23:30):
Hmm, because the anal, yourbrain, your brain, right.
The analyzer has Baggage.
It has the.
It's easy to be scripted andprogrammed, yeah, and you have
the amygdala with the fearresponse yeah, and so it's
moving out of that and goingmore into the intuition based
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type living, not saying that'seasy, yeah, the goal right, at
least, at least we got a goal.
But yeah, and evenunderstanding that there's,
there's a difference, yeah, inthis whole thing.
Because the brain I'm not I'mnot ripping on the brain, yeah,
but it has some.
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It has some things that make itUh irritating sometimes, like
the amygdala, the flight orflight, all this that just makes
you sit there and worry andsesame about is it gonna work?
What should I do next?
How is this gonna yada yada,yada and and then when you, when
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you breathe, you know the rightway and you slip out of that
into the parasympathetic nerveand then all that melts away.
No, and then you start tooperate from a more Calm state
and you're not completely stuckin the analyzer.
Yeah, so that's part of it.
(24:55):
Yeah, and it's not somethingthat you just do overnight like,
hey, I'm done with the analyzer.
So anyway, yeah, stepping intothat a little bit, but yeah,
what's a good point?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
We were talking yesterday and I learned this
from another expert and a verydifferent methodology that I
went to this week.
It was pretty cool, but shesaid a phrase and I was just
like it just punched me in theface because it was so good.
She's like, well, yeah, thesubconscious doesn't even see
the world.
It's inside the brain like,it's inside the like, it's an
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aware of time.
Time doesn't exist to thesubconscious, there's no such
thing as time, and that's whyyou can fear a terrorist attack
and have the anxiety right now,in the moment.
Yeah if that terrorist attack ishappening, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
If your neighbor's house got broken into and you
imagine someone breaking intoyour house while you're lying in
bed at night, your heart rategoes up.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, you know your brain, You're not really thinks
someone is breaking in.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
You're not running, yeah, you're just laying in bed.
Yeah how does that, how does aphysiologic Corresponds like
that happen, which is crazy andyour adrenaline spikes.
I've done it.
We've all sat there and thoughtabout you know, your camping.
You think about the, themurderer the murder.
I would do the tent 20 timesrealize what's going on big foot
or whatever your thing is thatyou think about when you?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
know just the serial killer and Definitely white, of
course.
But, um, yeah, so to your point, the analyzer is attached to
that amygdala.
Yeah, so then the second youstart analyzing all of the then
your subconscious doesn't knowtime or space like that.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
For all it knows it's happening right now.
Yeah, so it feels real and thenbam fear state.
It's pretty amazing.
Yeah but also irritating.
Well, it's something tounderstand.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, and the first step, like you said, the first
step is just even acknowledgingit and I feel like for me, as a
41 year old, after 12 month, 13,14 months of intense work, for
the first time, for the firsttime ever, I Was able to they
were, I didn't pick them apart,they were apart and then I was
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able to, with intuition, with IDon't know what, not the fear
state.
Yeah, I was able to.
The emotions were over here andthe ability to choose what
program I was going to run toprocess the emotions.
I literally it was like threedifferent components were
happening in my whole, being theemotions which came from the
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body, the gut and the chest.
Mm-hmm, and then my logicalbrain was literally said what
program do you want to run?
Literally said that, mm-hmm,and then I got to pick the
program and then I got to applythe program to the emotions and
after 41 years of living,breathing in this lifetime and
14 months of and I've on, I'm onsession 39 of therapy.
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I've done a umdr sessions, I'vedone Psychedelic psycho,
psychedelic assistedpsychotherapy.
I've done breath work.
I've done some neurologicalwork.
After all that, yeah, I wasable to and I didn't try to do
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it.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, it wasn't like I wasn't the goal for the week.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, I didn't get news and been like, okay, cool,
okay, okay, this is how I'mgonna do this.
It was literally just like thatwas that's how it operated.
Yeah, which is I even?
As it was happening, I was justlike, oh Wow, thank you, thank
you self.
I think this is cool.
It was good acknowledgement,too for all the work.
Yeah, you know, yeah, becauseif you do all this and then all
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of a sudden something happensand you're just in a fear state
and you think you're a piece ofand you're worthless, it's just
like Well, what was that?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
What have I been doing?
What am I doing with myself?
You know what have I been doingfor, you know, 14 months.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, it's a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
So anyway.
So, yeah, that's great bro.
Yeah, it's cool.
I'm also not not in the way youdescribed it, but intentionally
trying to operate less from theanalyzer.
Yeah, as I call it.
Yeah, the brain, because of youknow, because you can get stuck
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in those loops.
Yeah, of the fud, I call it fud.
The fear, uncertainty and doubtthe fud loops so operating less
from the, from the brain, andmore from Wholeness.
Being this Ground, whatever the, whatever the hell, you,
whatever your term is, yeah,soul spirit, I don't really care
.
I don't like, I don't like toget bogged down with syntax.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I don't see the point .
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, we're all trying to do the same, right,
yeah, so I think by far themajority of human beings don't
want to live in a fear statewhere they feel like they're
gonna die.
Right, do you?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
want more options.
Do you want less options?
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Do you want to feel more freedom or less freedom?
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yeah, we're all trying to do the same thing here
.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Everyone wants love yeah, unconditioned.
Everyone wants to feel likethey have an option yeah, more
options, yeah, and lessconstraints boom, okay.
So, yeah, less trying to getout of the brain as much and get
into the.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, if you're trying, if you're stuck on what
term to use to get out of theanalyzer, you might be operating
it within the analyzer.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Well, and that's a, that's a program, because I mean
same thing with you know who is.
When people talk about, allpaths end up pretty much leading
, yeah, to the same place.
Like you know, you can see likescientists they become, like
they believe in God after 30, 40years, yeah, and you're like,
how does that work?
Yeah and then people who areWhatever.
(30:49):
Maybe they worked in a Hospice,yeah, you know, but you're just
doing something intentionallyfor years and years.
You kind of notice that a lotof times people end up Towards a
similar conclusion.
Yeah, so is there a wrong orright path?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I mean, considering there's infinite possibilities.
How could there only be onepath?
Yeah, I don't know, so anyway,and how someone arrives at
feeling, that's more of afeeling yeah, but yeah.
I mean it's tragic.
I was watching the show lastnight and the kid, it's really
(31:35):
weird because one of the maincharacters, his name is Gus and
he's non-verbal.
I didn't watch it because ofthat, I just thought that was
pretty strange.
You know, they say you startseeing more patterns.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, you seeing some patterns, seeing some patterns.
I tell you what pattern I'mseeing.
I see more forerunners on theroad now that I own one.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
You know what I'll.
You know what pattern.
Next episode we're going totalk about manifestation cause.
I actually love that subject,yeah, and I love being cheeky
about the subject too.
So but you know what I want toquote manifest.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
What you manifest in bro.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Once we get the runners wrapped and we keep
developing engaging content onforerunner gunner, all those
forerunners are like we get theforerunner gunner wave.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
That's what I'm saying have you been doing it?
Have you been doing it toothers?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
No, I guess I gotta start.
Good challenge.
I just feel like motorcycleculture is cool.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, that they all wave at each other.
Yeah, that's cool.
They have an understanding,they do.
So then the forerunner culture,or forerunner culture, yeah,
toyota.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
But then there's Jeep culture and Jeeps wave at each
other, but I think theforerunner culture doesn't wave
at each other in despite what'sthe word.
And to yeah, whatever that wordis Because Jeep culture does
(33:05):
that.
So I think forerunners don't doit Because they're too cool.
They're too cool, but I don'tknow.
I don't know I'm still new tothe whole like being snobby in a
subculture Because I've alwaysbeen.
I've always blended subculturesin my whole life.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, the whole Jeep and Toyota thing is pretty funny
, yeah, but I gotta be honestwith you.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
I really want to ask this question what's that To me?
What is the point of the ducks?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I don't know, I haven't, I haven't understood
that yet.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Cause it seems kinda and maybe this is me being a
snobby Toyota guy it seems kindacheesy, Cheesy.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, that's the nicest word.
That's the nicest way you canput it right now on this episode
.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
But maybe I just don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
I don't know.
We should.
We should figure out the whereit started.
How did it start?
What is it?
What does it represent?
What is the?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
point.
We'll look that up.
Anyway, in conclusion, yeah,this morning I asked myself, I
was like I'm starting to seesome clarity on what I would
like to pursue pretty heavy.
Yeah, I'm taking action to doit.
You know, in in this life, Ithink when we talked about
(34:19):
purpose it's funny I brought upa point but I didn't conclude
the main point.
I went back and listened to theepisode and I was like man, I
went on a rant and I didn't evenconclude the rant, so it just
sounded like a stupid rant.
But we're talking about purposeand I believe that there's no,
there's no one thing that you'resupposed to do in this world
and you better find it or youwaste your life.
Yeah, of course not.
I don't believe that, and Ibrought up the analogy of a
(34:40):
girlfriend it's like, or a wifeor a significant other.
I was like I don't thinkthere's one soulmate in this
world.
But I was.
I failed to tie that back topurpose.
So I don't think there's justone soulmate in this world out
of eight billion people and yougotta go find that person or you
know the rest of your life'sgonna be miserable.
I don't think there's one thing.
I think, to your point, there'soptions.
We can.
Once we understand who we are,we can do whatever right.
(35:05):
As long as we reflect onconditional love and gratitude,
yeah this is stepping.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
That is stepping into more of the why you're doing it
than the what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
You wanna help people ?
Cool, there's a billion ways.
Yeah.
You know, find one that youlike.
There's probably 10, there'sprobably a thousand ways you
like doing it.
Yeah.
And being creative.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeah, you wanna be creative.
There's a million ways to dothat.
Yeah.
So I'm starting to see that.
But so, as I kinda go throughthis process, over the past year
, when I sold out of the lastcompany, I just started doing
stuff, a lot of stuff, causethat's natural for me, yeah.
So now, really, the transitionthat I've, I'll say, been forced
(35:51):
to go through but I allowedmyself to be forced to go
through- you yeah, Is now toyour point.
Why am I doing all these things?
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, stepping into the why, and then when you
really ask yourself that a lotchanged right.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Everything has changed.
Everything, yeah, everything.
So what's cool is now seeingthat the material world, driven
by the material world, goinginto an a ton of internal work
and then coming back to thematerial world and it may look
(36:27):
the same, but my presence andgroundedness and my point of
view yeah, your viewpointchanged Is absolutely radically
different.
So as I now look at, okay, cool, what do I wanna do?
It's not out of a program of Ineed to prove my value, I need
(36:53):
them to see my value, all thatkind of stuff.
It's just more like, what do Iwanna do?
Like, it's just that simple.
And then what, within this timeperiod of this world?
and the tools we have and theresources we have.
What's that gonna look like,but anyway, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Cool, I think that's it.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
That's it.
That's all I got.
I like it.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Higher viewpoints and less analyzing and more
intuition.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Yeah, and just keep doing the work.
For me, it's just keep doingthe work, just getting started.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I think as much as you can accomplish in life, it's
pretty heavily determined onhow much you're willing to work
on yourself.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah.
You know, If the ability to becurious and creative are
absolutely endless and has nobounds.
Yeah, for me, my motivation isto keep doing the inner work.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, so I can See the possibilities more clearly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause.
If there's one thing that FUDthe fear, uncertainty in del du
is, it narrows your ability tosee the possibilities.
Yeah.
It gives you that tunnel vision.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
And it makes you feel like you have less options.
There's a terrible feeling,yeah, so I'd like to reduce that
as much as possible, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
That's good.
So there we go.
Same thing else.
Good morning.
Good morning, sir.
This is episode 105.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
105,.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
I think yeah, it's February of 2024.
We're going to hit just aninteresting development in my
the way in which I process newinformation.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I like that Before we start.
I'm Jonathan Noel and I'm BrianNoel.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
This is the Focus Cast, where we help you reduce
distractions, increase focus soyou can live a life with
Intention, intention.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Be intentional.
Be intentional with yourintentions.
Yeah.
What if you have unintentionalintentions?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
That's our subconscious and I think that
drives the majority of mostpeople's life, pretty much yeah,
so we'll just jump right in.
Why not yeah?
Because then we're meetingsomeone for lunch, okay.
So okay, in articulating how Iapproach new information now
(01:09):
versus, say, a year ago, and whythat's significant, is because
I've been intentional aboutlearning how to.
I don't even know how toarticulate it, but just being
more grounded.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
But that's been the goal.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
A little context.
You had this association formost of your life, most of my
life, whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So I started.
For some of our followers wholistened to everything, you know
this.
But in quick summary, I startedtherapy just because I wanted
to clear mine and I wanted toremember some of my childhood.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, you had a big gap, or you didn't remember
anything?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, and then that was typical therapy EMDR doing
some stuff, breaking newterritory, clearing trauma,
peeling the onion Right, andthen it got to the core Right
and then it started gettingcrazy.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Then you started looking at how you do everything
differently.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, yeah, then we'll use some different.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
The next phase of work starts, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Different phrasing for different people in
different belief systems.
False self, true self.
I broke past the defaultnetwork.
I broke past the ego.
Access to the soul beyond justthe mind, Whatever you want to
say yeah, insert yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
What I realized is most of everything is all
talking about the same thing.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
The same feeling.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah Well, and if there's one thing that I have
learned in all of this work, isthat getting all flustered about
you using the right term or thewrong term.
I don't do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Well, isn't that something?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Isn't that great.
Yeah, I mean, language is notan absolute.
No, language is just the way inwhich we try to describe what
the is going on in this world,all of us are feeling the same
thing, just explaining it indifferent ways.
Yeah, yeah, so, okay, cool.
So here's the situation orhere's the scenario.
(03:24):
So the very specific work isreprogramming.
We've talked aboutinter-narrative, we've talked
about inter-critic, we've talkedabout the manager, the manager
in the internal family systemsand how the manager tells you
what to do every day.
We've talked aboutintrospective work.
(03:47):
So we've talked around this.
But the past two and a halfmonths, really since November,
since I broke through thesurface or got to some of the
core, is reprogramming.
(04:09):
Yeah, so for me, some of theprograms, some of the scripts I
talked about this, I think, inepisode 101, but you're cursed,
you're a failure, all those kindof programs that are
subconscious.
I wasn't like a depressed, sadperson that every time you talk
to me I was just like, oh, I'msuch a loser.
It was more like I'm a veryoptimistic person but deep
(04:31):
inside I didn't believe it,because it was a program run
into my subconscious that I wascursed.
So now it's reprogramming andwhat's interesting from the
delineation between just purecognitive therapy, behavioral
therapy change your behavior andthen you'll slowly Versus what
(04:56):
I feel like I've been doing,which is radical, deep soul work
.
So I don't feel like I'm justworking in the prefrontal cortex
and the amygdala, the thinkingbrain or the process, and
(05:17):
emotional brain.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You moved on to.
It feels like the whole packageyeah.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Now again, that just may be what it feels like.
I don't know.
I'm not saying that's wrong orwhatever.
I'm not picking a side here butthat's what it feels like to me
.
It feels like moving out of thebrain.
So in reprogramming also thework to this concept of radical
(05:45):
non-judgment which we talkedabout, so the negative programs
and the negative judgment,self-judgment, definitely
control a lot of our thinkingenergy as human beings?
Yeah, most definitely so.
What's been fun about the workis to start to pull apart the
(06:12):
emotional response to theenvironment and then to be able
to run a new program free fromjudgment.
Here's an example.
So in being an entrepreneur,there's ups, there's downs.
There's just part of the course.
(06:34):
And what's been reallyinteresting is, in the past
couple of months, as I've beenkind of catapulted because of a
session I did on November 11th.
I've been kind of catapultedinto this like intense
introspective work to challengemy entire default network, which
(07:01):
is everything I know to be true.
My default network, yeah, doesOn Venus, you know, like just
these things.
Like default network is likeyou can drive and think about
something else at the same time.
You know, it's as simple as that, but it says Complex is like if
you grew up where you had a momwho got stressed out every
(07:23):
holiday because everything hadto be perfect, but she made it
not perfect because she was sostressed out and she yelled at
every everyone your defaultnetwork is.
That's the way holidays go.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Right, right.
Yeah, that's just you.
That's all you've seen.
Yeah, that's what you know.
It's a reprogram, yeah, that oh, holidays aren't perfection,
doesn't make.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Joy, yeah, and the purpose of holiday is joy, right
, so letting go, so anyway.
So so before you know, I've,I've.
I've tried things as anentrepreneur my whole life, you
know, since we had a recordingstudio and I was in middle
school, so I'm familiar withthings working and things not
working.
Yeah that's nothing new there.
(08:07):
Yeah, nothing new there.
So in the past the program thatwould run when I hit a
roadblock or Something came upWould to.
The program would run that Itold you so yeah, your failure.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
This was never gonna work.
Yeah and stuff for you thinkingall that, yeah, the usual
suspects.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
So this is the first time in the history of my life
that I know of mm-hmm where, innavigating these Just typical
things, when I was hit withinformation, the negative
program didn't run at all.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
You just Kind of zoomed out and looked at it.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
It's pretty interesting.
I what I could see was clearseparation between the emotional
response and the programs, thescripts Running to analyze the
emotional response.
So what I saw for the firsttime was a clear delineation and
detachment from that theEmotional response to the
(09:17):
situation, and then what programI was able to apply to the
emotion in response to theexternal event, mm-hmm.
So I didn't experience a flashof emotion and Then the script
told me what it was.
I got to literally experiencethe emotion and then, with my
(09:41):
logical brain, ask myself Iguess my subconscious, I don't
really know, maybe I should talkto a psychiatrist or someone a
neurologist, but my thinkingbrain got to literally Talk to
the subconscious and say whatprogram are we gonna run in
response to this, to apply tothis emotional response to the
(10:03):
situation?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Is that not?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
insane.
That's pretty amazing.
So then the thinking brain Iwas able to say it's okay to
feel disappointed.
Yeah, Completely free fromjudgment right.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
That's way different than feeling like a failure and
everything you do is cursed.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, I was literally able to say I feel disappointed
.
And it's okay to feeldisappointed.
Yeah, it's okay to be cautiousor now a bit Curious or nervous
about you know.
(10:42):
Okay, cool.
Well, what's next?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, and instead of it's likewell, if it's okay to feel that
way, I have a family, I havekids.
You know I want to, I want toprovide for them.
You know I want to do all thesethings as a man and as a as a
human, but instead of that, liketypical, like you know, you're
not gonna be able to provide foryour family.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Your friend is gonna think you're a.
You know all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
For me, letting down my family was one of the core
fears.
Mm-hmm.
I actually, in a therapysession, visualized sitting at
the table, having to Tell myfamily that I'm a failure and
them realizing it.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
You did that in a session.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, and that was like that's just what came up
and and that produced one of thecore fears.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, I Think this one's pretty Common, yeah, cuz I
have some too.
Yeah you know it's like notwanting to fail Anyone that you
care about.
Yeah, of course, right, which,if you go to the bottom of that,
I think that just ends that youdon't want to fail the creator.
(11:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, or you have a construed version of the creator
and yeah, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
The point is it still sucks.
Yeah when you feel like youfailed, even if you didn't.
Yeah, so that's a default.
Whatever program script orProgram script, whatever the
hell you name, whatever name, itdoesn't matter.
Whatever you want to call it towork through, yeah we should
start creating new words.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
What does that word mean?
We just give it a meaning.
But yeah, so it was actually,and all this is pretty recent
for me, so it was.
It's been really interesting toActually be able to work
through this in this way, youknow, to be able to.
(12:48):
It's almost like now that I'vecause.
Y'all have heard me say thisbefore.
Jonathan, you mentioned thisbefore.
So for me, in therapy, I'm notjust going to therapy and about
life.
I prepare for what I want toget out of that session.
This is the way I approach anyany, whether it's a business
mentor, whether it's my freakingCPA, You're squeezing as much
out of it as you can.
Absolutely Prepare for themeeting.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Go in.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Super intentional in the meeting focused and then
process after the meeting Writenotes afterwards yeah, and then
we talk about it on here.
Yeah, and it's like about it,it's like four therapy sessions
in one.
And then anything that comes up, I read books about it.
Yeah, so I've been extremelyintentional.
So this the process for me,right?
Yeah, and everyone's probably alittle different, obviously,
there's probably somecommonalities, but the process
(13:34):
for me so I've, I've, I've ranthese reps of.
Here's how my brain works.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
You're understanding the mechanism more?
Yes, and when you andunderstanding the mechanism, you
can thwart some of the defaultreactions.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, and I can go through the process of quote
therapy in my head on my own.
Yeah, when something comes up,I don't.
Now it's not like, oh my gosh,I have to call my therapist and
we have to.
She's got to work through thiswith me, right, I don't?
You have tools?
Yeah, I have tools, it's.
I was able to sit down and say,well, first thing I was able to
(14:16):
do, which now this is like thesteps in receiving information
you know, apply them to yourselfif you want this.
First, I was able to just sayoh, I'm not going to logically
start trying to analyze this,I'm just going to give it 24
(14:37):
hours and just facts, or facts?
Let me emotionally respond toit personally.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, let me just see what, instead of doing a
reaction or email immediately?
Exactly how could you possibly?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, any of that.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Why was this going on ?
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
So first it's just like okay, noted.
And.
I didn't.
You don't avoid either right,right, that's it doesn't text
you for a week, so just replyand say, great, I'm going to
think about this for a day andthen we'll figure it out.
So then, for me personally,that's given myself a day to not
jump into decision making, youknow a decision making stance,
(15:20):
just to kind of allow myself andthen feeling.
What's been really cool is justfeeling the emotions in the
body and then the mind goingokay, cool, what programmer
we're going to use to analyzethese emotions and then, instead
of grabbing the old programs,which are just to apply a bunch
of negativity to it, apply thenew programs, which is okay,
(15:40):
cool.
What are you?
What's the word attached to thefeeling?
What age do you feel, which Ilove it with my therapy?
My therapist asked thatquestion.
I'm like I feel this and she'slike what?
How old are you?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, what age do you feel this?
Yeah, I've never done that.
It's wild.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, if you really think about it, then you'll go
to that age and you'll go to amemory of being that.
So then I'm like, okay, cool,what does that age feel like?
You know, five, 12, whatever,or now you know.
And then it's like, okay, cool,what is it, you know?
Disappointment, frustration,fear, whatever those core things
(16:20):
, fear against your basic needsafety provision, shelter.
Fear against or frustrationagainst our Second need or
whatever need, which is our ego,desire to be respected, all
that kind of stuff.
And and then say, okay, cool,and then not judge it, but to
accept it.
(16:41):
It's okay to feel that way.
Process through it Mm-hmm Kindof for me so far it's been spent
some time in that space.
It's okay, just kind of readit's okay, reinforcing that yeah
like it's okay to feel that way.
Go to sleep, wake up.
It's okay to feel that way.
And then what I found myselfnext is Well, how does this
(17:04):
relate to me personally, howdoes it relate to now and how
does it relate to what I reallywant to give this world, that I
feel like I have?
Mm-hmm.
So this morning I was in my headand Drop and guss off at school
and I was just like as avisionary, I my mind goes to
these details and and I quicklyend up in these this is what
(17:28):
this could be.
Mm-hmm, right, not like pie inthe sky, but, like you know me,
like, yeah, all of the mechanicsassociated with it.
Mm-hmm.
So when I really was, when Icame to a place to truly
articulate the emotion for mepersonally, is in this concept
of in material Mm-hmm, in thephysical, like understanding
(17:54):
that the physical is.
You know, quantum physicssuggests there is no, there is
no hard matter.
Everything is frequency,everything is waves, yeah,
everything actually is movement,mm-hmm.
So if we look beyond just thematerial and and for me asking,
in the, in the concept of thiswhole construct, mm-hmm, I have
(18:15):
in my mind Created what seems tobe Something that could be
really special, and it's notjust any particular thing, it's
the way my brain works, mm-hmm,right.
And I think a lot of us,because a lot of us are creative
, we see what could be Right,whether that's, we see what our
(18:39):
kids could be, we see what ourfriends.
We see what we could do, right,that's just kind of how we
operate, yeah, but for mepersonally it was like Well,
what I do with that now?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Where does that go?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Seeing the potential yeah, so I think for me, what I
found and discovered as of thismorning Is the negative Pain.
Is I feel like I can contributemore value to the world that
(19:13):
I'm currently giving?
Yeah, it's not enough right andI feel like, when some of these
things come up, or even in ourpodcast, sometimes it's like I
Feel like we're being sotransparent and honest and just
(19:37):
Loosely sharing our Truths,truths and transformation, and
it and sometimes and againnegative, positive, whatever.
Sometimes I'm like wouldn'tthat benefit more people than
the 15 or 20 people thatdownload the podcast?
You know what I mean.
Yeah and then it, and then itjust really falls back to is
(20:00):
this giving us value?
And if it is, we'll keep doingit, and if it's not, we'll stop.
Yeah, because that's all we cancontrol.
Yeah, but the letdown for me asI cool as I was able to attack,
articulate it this morning wasI Feel like I have more to give,
(20:20):
that is being received, of theentire construct of the life
that I live.
Now.
Whether that's true or not, itdoesn't matter, mm-hmm, because
right now I'm just able toarticulate why I'm Not let down.
But what's the word?
(20:42):
Disappointed, disappointed?
So now, today, tomorrow, I'llfigure out what to do with that.
But that's where I'm at yeah.
So what's funny and what's greatabout all this is in this
introspective.
It has nothing to do withanyone or anything externally.
(21:03):
This is all me processing,taking, allowing an external
material yeah right.
Mm-hmm.
And this makes sense to us.
I don't know if it does thelistener, because we're, you
know, going through this wholematerial world, spiritual world
thing, but, like quantum physicsthing, I'm just throwing out
(21:25):
some words out there.
So if you, if you stick, if anyof them are sticky for you in
listening to this but it hasnothing to do with the material,
it has absolutely nothing.
What's cool about the processis realizing it's all internal
and doing the introspective workis I can make it.
I can take any circumstance andapply it to how I want to grow
(21:45):
as an individual.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
You taking your power back.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, because, regardless of what's happened
externally, whether right youthis thing, this project,
whether it's the podcast,whether it's a project with
somebody, you are not an effectof outside circumstances.
In this moment.
I'll say you're less of effect.
I'm choosing to take inparticular external event right
(22:12):
and using that event to evokethe emotions, to process the
emotions, to Use that as amoment to better understand
myself right Instead ofcompletely reactionary.
Yeah, or completely staying inthe material.
Well, what should I do?
What are we gonna do?
How?
What's the next iteration,what's the next phase?
(22:34):
You know what I'm saying?
So, and I don't know if that'sthe right thing to do, I don't
really know, but that's what I'mchoosing to do right now
because obviously there still isthe material, there still is
the thing, but there's.
For me you know, I'm anentrepreneur, I got a lot of
ideas there's always gonna be athing, always, always always,
(22:56):
always, always and as I'm Reallysinking into this idea of
curious and creative, With noboundaries for the rest of my
life.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Then there's even more, then there's even more,
than it never ends yeah sothat's how I'm I.
Like it.
We were talking about thisyesterday, but it's a little bit
of.
My teacher calls it theanalyzer, but it's a little bit
of stepping out of the analyzer,so much.
(23:30):
Hmm, because the anal, yourbrain, your brain, right.
The analyzer has Baggage.
It has the.
It's easy to be scripted andprogrammed, yeah, and you have
the amygdala with the fearresponse yeah, and so it's
moving out of that and goingmore into the intuition based
(23:52):
type living, not saying that'seasy, yeah, the goal right, at
least, at least we got a goal.
But yeah, and evenunderstanding that there's,
there's a difference, yeah, inthis whole thing.
Because the brain I'm not I'mnot ripping on the brain, yeah,
but it has some.
(24:13):
It has some things that make itUh irritating sometimes, like
the amygdala, the flight orflight, all this that just makes
you sit there and worry andsesame about is it gonna work?
What should I do next?
How is this gonna yada yada,yada and and then when you, when
(24:34):
you breathe, you know the rightway and you slip out of that
into the parasympathetic nerveand then all that melts away.
No, and then you start tooperate from a more Calm state
and you're not completely stuckin the analyzer.
Yeah, so that's part of it.
(24:55):
Yeah, and it's not somethingthat you just do overnight like,
hey, I'm done with the analyzer.
So anyway, yeah, stepping intothat a little bit, but yeah,
what's a good point?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
We were talking yesterday and I learned this
from another expert and a verydifferent methodology that I
went to this week.
It was pretty cool, but shesaid a phrase and I was just
like it just punched me in theface because it was so good.
She's like, well, yeah, thesubconscious doesn't even see
the world.
It's inside the brain like,it's inside the like, it's an
(25:30):
aware of time.
Time doesn't exist to thesubconscious, there's no such
thing as time, and that's whyyou can fear a terrorist attack
and have the anxiety right now,in the moment.
Yeah if that terrorist attack ishappening, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
If your neighbor's house got broken into and you
imagine someone breaking intoyour house while you're lying in
bed at night, your heart rategoes up.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, you know your brain, You're not really thinks
someone is breaking in.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
You're not running, yeah, you're just laying in bed.
Yeah how does that, how does aphysiologic Corresponds like
that happen, which is crazy andyour adrenaline spikes.
I've done it.
We've all sat there and thoughtabout you know, your camping.
You think about the, themurderer the murder.
I would do the tent 20 timesrealize what's going on big foot
or whatever your thing is thatyou think about when you?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
know just the serial killer and Definitely white, of
course.
But, um, yeah, so to your point, the analyzer is attached to
that amygdala.
Yeah, so then the second youstart analyzing all of the then
your subconscious doesn't knowtime or space like that.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
For all it knows it's happening right now.
Yeah, so it feels real and thenbam fear state.
It's pretty amazing.
Yeah but also irritating.
Well, it's something tounderstand.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, and the first step, like you said, the first
step is just even acknowledgingit and I feel like for me, as a
41 year old, after 12 month, 13,14 months of intense work, for
the first time, for the firsttime ever, I Was able to they
were, I didn't pick them apart,they were apart and then I was
(27:06):
able to, with intuition, with IDon't know what, not the fear
state.
Yeah, I was able to.
The emotions were over here andthe ability to choose what
program I was going to run toprocess the emotions.
I literally it was like threedifferent components were
happening in my whole, being theemotions which came from the
(27:27):
body, the gut and the chest.
Mm-hmm, and then my logicalbrain was literally said what
program do you want to run?
Literally said that, mm-hmm,and then I got to pick the
program and then I got to applythe program to the emotions and
after 41 years of living,breathing in this lifetime and
14 months of and I've on, I'm onsession 39 of therapy.
(27:52):
I've done a umdr sessions, I'vedone Psychedelic psycho,
psychedelic assistedpsychotherapy.
I've done breath work.
I've done some neurologicalwork.
After all that, yeah, I wasable to and I didn't try to do
(28:16):
it.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, it wasn't like I wasn't the goal for the week.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, I didn't get news and been like, okay, cool,
okay, okay, this is how I'mgonna do this.
It was literally just like thatwas that's how it operated.
Yeah, which is I even?
As it was happening, I was justlike, oh Wow, thank you, thank
you self.
I think this is cool.
It was good acknowledgement,too for all the work.
Yeah, you know, yeah, becauseif you do all this and then all
(28:42):
of a sudden something happensand you're just in a fear state
and you think you're a piece ofand you're worthless, it's just
like Well, what was that?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
What have I been doing?
What am I doing with myself?
You know what have I been doingfor, you know, 14 months.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, it's a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
So anyway.
So, yeah, that's great bro.
Yeah, it's cool.
I'm also not not in the way youdescribed it, but intentionally
trying to operate less from theanalyzer.
Yeah, as I call it.
Yeah, the brain, because of youknow, because you can get stuck
(29:20):
in those loops.
Yeah, of the fud, I call it fud.
The fear, uncertainty and doubtthe fud loops so operating less
from the, from the brain, andmore from Wholeness.
Being this Ground, whatever the, whatever the hell, you,
whatever your term is, yeah,soul spirit, I don't really care
.
I don't like, I don't like toget bogged down with syntax.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I don't see the point .
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, we're all trying to do the same, right,
yeah, so I think by far themajority of human beings don't
want to live in a fear statewhere they feel like they're
gonna die.
Right, do you?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
want more options.
Do you want less options?
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Do you want to feel more freedom or less freedom?
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yeah, we're all trying to do the same thing here
.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Everyone wants love yeah, unconditioned.
Everyone wants to feel likethey have an option yeah, more
options, yeah, and lessconstraints boom, okay.
So, yeah, less trying to getout of the brain as much and get
into the.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, if you're trying, if you're stuck on what
term to use to get out of theanalyzer, you might be operating
it within the analyzer.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Well, and that's a, that's a program, because I mean
same thing with you know who is.
When people talk about, allpaths end up pretty much leading
, yeah, to the same place.
Like you know, you can see likescientists they become, like
they believe in God after 30, 40years, yeah, and you're like,
how does that work?
Yeah and then people who areWhatever.
(30:49):
Maybe they worked in a Hospice,yeah, you know, but you're just
doing something intentionallyfor years and years.
You kind of notice that a lotof times people end up Towards a
similar conclusion.
Yeah, so is there a wrong orright path?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I mean, considering there's infinite possibilities.
How could there only be onepath?
Yeah, I don't know, so anyway,and how someone arrives at
feeling, that's more of afeeling yeah, but yeah.
I mean it's tragic.
I was watching the show lastnight and the kid, it's really
(31:35):
weird because one of the maincharacters, his name is Gus and
he's non-verbal.
I didn't watch it because ofthat, I just thought that was
pretty strange.
You know, they say you startseeing more patterns.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, you seeing some patterns, seeing some patterns.
I tell you what pattern I'mseeing.
I see more forerunners on theroad now that I own one.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
You know what I'll.
You know what pattern.
Next episode we're going totalk about manifestation cause.
I actually love that subject,yeah, and I love being cheeky
about the subject too.
So but you know what I want toquote manifest.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
What you manifest in bro.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Once we get the runners wrapped and we keep
developing engaging content onforerunner gunner, all those
forerunners are like we get theforerunner gunner wave.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
That's what I'm saying have you been doing it?
Have you been doing it toothers?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
No, I guess I gotta start.
Good challenge.
I just feel like motorcycleculture is cool.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, that they all wave at each other.
Yeah, that's cool.
They have an understanding,they do.
So then the forerunner culture,or forerunner culture, yeah,
toyota.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
But then there's Jeep culture and Jeeps wave at each
other, but I think theforerunner culture doesn't wave
at each other in despite what'sthe word.
And to yeah, whatever that wordis Because Jeep culture does
(33:05):
that.
So I think forerunners don't doit Because they're too cool.
They're too cool, but I don'tknow.
I don't know I'm still new tothe whole like being snobby in a
subculture Because I've alwaysbeen.
I've always blended subculturesin my whole life.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, the whole Jeep and Toyota thing is pretty funny
, yeah, but I gotta be honestwith you.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
I really want to ask this question what's that To me?
What is the point of the ducks?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I don't know, I haven't, I haven't understood
that yet.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Cause it seems kinda and maybe this is me being a
snobby Toyota guy it seems kindacheesy, Cheesy.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, that's the nicest word.
That's the nicest way you canput it right now on this episode
.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
But maybe I just don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
I don't know.
We should.
We should figure out the whereit started.
How did it start?
What is it?
What does it represent?
What is the?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
point.
We'll look that up.
Anyway, in conclusion, yeah,this morning I asked myself, I
was like I'm starting to seesome clarity on what I would
like to pursue pretty heavy.
Yeah, I'm taking action to doit.
You know, in in this life, Ithink when we talked about
(34:19):
purpose it's funny I brought upa point but I didn't conclude
the main point.
I went back and listened to theepisode and I was like man, I
went on a rant and I didn't evenconclude the rant, so it just
sounded like a stupid rant.
But we're talking about purposeand I believe that there's no,
there's no one thing that you'resupposed to do in this world
and you better find it or youwaste your life.
Yeah, of course not.
I don't believe that, and Ibrought up the analogy of a
(34:40):
girlfriend it's like, or a wifeor a significant other.
I was like I don't thinkthere's one soulmate in this
world.
But I was.
I failed to tie that back topurpose.
So I don't think there's justone soulmate in this world out
of eight billion people and yougotta go find that person or you
know the rest of your life'sgonna be miserable.
I don't think there's one thing.
I think, to your point, there'soptions.
We can.
Once we understand who we are,we can do whatever right.
(35:05):
As long as we reflect onconditional love and gratitude,
yeah this is stepping.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
That is stepping into more of the why you're doing it
than the what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
You wanna help people ?
Cool, there's a billion ways.
Yeah.
You know, find one that youlike.
There's probably 10, there'sprobably a thousand ways you
like doing it.
Yeah.
And being creative.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeah, you wanna be creative.
There's a million ways to dothat.
Yeah.
So I'm starting to see that.
But so, as I kinda go throughthis process, over the past year
, when I sold out of the lastcompany, I just started doing
stuff, a lot of stuff, causethat's natural for me, yeah.
So now, really, the transitionthat I've, I'll say, been forced
(35:51):
to go through but I allowedmyself to be forced to go
through- you yeah, Is now toyour point.
Why am I doing all these things?
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, stepping into the why, and then when you
really ask yourself that a lotchanged right.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Everything has changed.
Everything, yeah, everything.
So what's cool is now seeingthat the material world, driven
by the material world, goinginto an a ton of internal work
and then coming back to thematerial world and it may look
(36:27):
the same, but my presence andgroundedness and my point of
view yeah, your viewpointchanged Is absolutely radically
different.
So as I now look at, okay, cool, what do I wanna do?
It's not out of a program of Ineed to prove my value, I need
(36:53):
them to see my value, all thatkind of stuff.
It's just more like, what do Iwanna do?
Like, it's just that simple.
And then what, within this timeperiod of this world?
and the tools we have and theresources we have.
What's that gonna look like,but anyway, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Cool, I think that's it.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
That's it.
That's all I got.
I like it.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Higher viewpoints and less analyzing and more
intuition.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Yeah, and just keep doing the work.
For me, it's just keep doingthe work, just getting started.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I think as much as you can accomplish in life, it's
pretty heavily determined onhow much you're willing to work
on yourself.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah.
You know, If the ability to becurious and creative are
absolutely endless and has nobounds.
Yeah, for me, my motivation isto keep doing the inner work.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, so I can See the possibilities more clearly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause.
If there's one thing that FUDthe fear, uncertainty in del du
is, it narrows your ability tosee the possibilities.
Yeah.
It gives you that tunnel vision.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
And it makes you feel like you have less options.
There's a terrible feeling,yeah, so I'd like to reduce that
as much as possible, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
That's good.
So there we go.
Same thing else.
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