October 12, 2023 • 30 mins
0:00 Jumping to Conclusions
12:50 The Dangers of Jumping to Conclusions
19:34 Avoiding Assumptions and Jumping to Conclusions
29:03 Career Politicians and Average Americans Disconnect
Imagine you could peel back the layers of your mind, understanding why you make hasty decisions or jump to conclusions when faced with emotionally charged or ambiguous situations. Promise us your time, and we'll guide you through this exploration into your cognitive machinery. Our discussion begins by unpacking the phenomenon of 'jumping to conclusions', a cognitive shortcut often leading to inaccurate judgments. We'll navigate its role in social anxiety and delusional disorders, and offer useful strategies to keep such hasty conclusions in check.
Ever wondered about the different types of mental shortcuts your brain takes? In a fascinating conversation, we address fortune-telling, mind-reading, extreme extrapolation, overgeneralization, and labeling. These automatic responses, while efficient, often cloud our judgement leading to misinterpretations. But we've got you covered. We'll delve into how to avoid these cognitive traps, helping you to question assumptions and make mindful decisions.
Lastly, we tie it all together by examining the influence of upbringing and life experiences on our cognitive systems. Our focus: the disconnect between career politicians and the average American, a gap widened by the biases produced by these mental shortcuts. We challenge you to slow down your thought processes, and question your own assumptions. So, join us to rethink decision-making and judgements. It's a conversation that'll leave you questioning, analyzing and hopefully, jumping to fewer conclusions.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bro, bro, what's up?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
last episode, we talked about the power of the
mind.
Yes, and this is pretty, apretty specific Piece of that,
but I wanted to break this outinto a separate episode because
I feel like this is somethingthat people do every single day.
Mother and the title of this isjumping to conclusions reminds
(00:24):
me of Office space.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, which one makes the mat where you jump to
conclusions.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Oh man, I don't remember that, I don't remember
that anyway.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, I love your example in the last episode.
Your bodice at the end of theday says, hey, what's have a
meeting tomorrow morning andthen you go home.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You go like what's that about?
I'm absolutely obsessed.
You create all these scripts inyour head.
You're like they're gonna laylayoffs.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Demoted yeah something went wrong.
Something went wrong.
I'm a piece of shit, yeah, thatkind of thing.
And then the next morning theboss is like oh wait, yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I forgot which.
Yeah, I mean, think about it,right.
Just think, like when yourspouse says like hey, why didn't
you do the dishes?
And you jump to the conclusionthat they hate you and think
that you're a terrible piece ofshit.
Yeah it happens, some people arein that place in life.
So we jump to conclusions.
So we're gonna break it downtoday from a focus standpoint,
(01:18):
from a science standpoint, andwe're gonna hit this whole thing
of One title.
This episode could have beenfact, fiction and focus, because
sometimes we take a few facts.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, I turn it out a shit ton of fiction.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, create this series of short stories.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, yeah, you take your little.
Yeah, that's never mind.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
So, anyway, that's what we're talking about today.
Let's dig in.
I Write these are you, I havethose.
(02:03):
I'm Jonathan, oh, and I'm BrianWell this is the focus cast,
where we help removeDistractions, increase focus so
you can live a life withintentions.
Sweet.
Live a life on intention, inintention, with intention, with
intention maybe right.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Does that make the most sense?
I think so.
All right, so we're talkingabout jumping to conclusions.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, it's a big one when it comes to focus, because
we focus on a lot of bullshitthat we create in our heads.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, you might even say Most of it's bullshit.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, most of it.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
You know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna talk through
this and then we're gonna comeup with some nice little tips on
Not jumping to conclusion.
Fuck yeah, we got tips in here.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
We got some tips in here, bro.
All right definition seemspretty obvious, but we just
threw it in there jumping.
Jumping into conclusions is aphenomenon where people Reach a
conclusion prematurely on thebasis of an on the basis of
insufficient information.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, man, the cognitive tendency of jumping to
conclusions, abbreviated a JTCyou abbreviation nerds out there
is implicated in social anxietyand delusional disorders, and
what researchers call the threatanticipation model from
psychology today yeah, so thebrain?
(03:25):
The brain wants to functionquickly, right, so it has some
shortcuts.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, no, exactly, that's in here Somewhere nice.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
No, seriously.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Oh it's, it's an efficiency thing.
Yeah you know, because In thereand a regular day, so you don't
have to sit there and likeanalyze every single thing and
try and get all the informationall the time.
Yeah, make some super informeddecision, like you're buying a
house.
Imagine if it felt like buyinga house, if you're just gonna
say yes to someone asking you ifyou want, I like Whatever, go
to lunch, go to lunch.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, you know things like that right.
So, yeah, it's just beingefficient.
But in that sometimes peoplemight have a tendency to jump to
conclusions.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, this is in new research by the University of
East University of East Anglia,uk's James Hurley and colleagues
2018 JTC interpretation.
Bias is Is tested as a processthat leads people to assume,
wrongly, that a situationpresents them with physical,
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social or physiological harm.
Oh yeah, so a piece of this.
In fact, if it's jumping toconclusions, I guess it's
typically negative.
Yeah it's not jumping to.
I guess delusional would belike Everything's gonna work out
.
I'm gonna drink 40 beers andDrive a drive a Porsche that I
(04:52):
rented.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I think that might be just and everything's gonna be
fine.
I'm like an idiot, but yeah, inthis context, jtc is typically
you're jumping to negativeconclusions right, that is
situation presents them withphysical, social or
physiological harm.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, yeah, everything.
Everyone doesn't smile at you.
They hate you.
Yeah, they don't say goodmorning.
They're pissed off at you.
Yes your boss wants the meetingor whatever.
We keep talking about that one.
Yeah, someone's getting fired,yeah it's probably you.
Yeah, suck, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
That sounds exhausting.
Yeah, that sounds exhausting.
So you're confronted withemotionally ambiguous situation
and automatically conclude thatthe situation will come out
badly for you Because otherpeople are out to hurt you.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, jumping to conclusions, man, that does
sound exhausting.
So why, yeah?
Why do we do this?
Yeah, the main reason whypeople jump to conclusions is
that our cognitive system relieson mental shortcuts, called
heuristics.
I just learned this term.
Which increased the speed ofour judgment and decision-making
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processes at the cost ofreducing their accuracy and
optimality.
That's from Effective ology,damn so.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
There it is, no it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, you don't want to treat every single decision
like your buying a house.
Yeah, you know, a huge lifechanging decision every time
Just to decide what color pencilyou want to, what color pen you
want to buy for the office.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So anyway, yeah, shortcuts make sense.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, You're just trying to function.
Yeah, Um, I think.
Have you met the person in a ina conversation where they
finish your sentence constantly?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I don't hang out with those people.
I cut them out of my life.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So there's people in this world, outside of your
perfect life, jonathan, ofwonderful human beings.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I gave them that, I gave them the axe.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
You came to some conclusions on that.
Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
But anyway.
So yes, uh, for workenvironments or things like that
, when you're in a meeting orsomething like that or you're
talking to someone, there'scertain people that certain
people do this, there's reallybad at it and, um, they'll just
constantly assume that they knowwhat you're going to say and
then they just just step rightover you and kind of finish your
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thought, even if it's not right, and keep going.
Sounds like an extreme exampleof like someone who's pretty
irritating, super obnoxious whenjumping to conclusions.
It's like in an argument with aspouse and they're like they say
something.
I mean I've done this a fewtimes.
I've had to, I've had to stopmyself or say like okay, that
was wrong.
Um, you know where my wifewould start to say something and
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then I would finish and she'slike that's not at all what I
was going to say and I'm justlike, oh, shit, I go not like an
idiot.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
And if you're doing that and you're wrong all the
time, yeah, shut up, stoptalking.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Oh, the concept of jumping to conclusions,
generally seen as a cognitivebias, in cases where people jump
to conclusions as a result ofan imperfect way in which our
cognitive systems work, whichcan cause us to rush ahead and
make intuitive judgments.
You know, it's funny, right,like?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
hit the last bit without relying on sufficient
information and a thoroughreasoning process.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Oh, yeah, that's important, um, but what's crazy
is like in a pursuit ofefficiency games.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
You lose accuracy.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
So, anyway, what is it?
What is the classic?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
thing like speed, cost and time.
Oh, no quality, quality, timeand cost yes.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Cost time equality Pick two.
Yeah, pick two.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, so you can't have it all.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, we're getting our house renovated and I was
like I want to do this within mybudget and I wanted to be good,
so I'm just going to move outof my house and whatever is done
, we'll move back in.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
You've given up the time, I've given up the time,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I mean, once our family settled in an Airbnb
outside of the house, likewhatever.
Yeah, it is what it is Like.
I'm not going to want to moveback.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Anyway, jumping to conclusions.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
So here's some examples ways we JTC, jtc, bro,
casual assumption, casual.
Oh, I love these.
Okay, um, these are great.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, this is just kind of a list of the most
common or whatever, the waysthat people jump to conclusions.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, so we have seven ways that human beings JTC
and these are good, right JTCNumber one casual assumption.
Casual assumption involvesmaking a relatively minor,
intuitive assumption that isbased on your preexisting
knowledge, experience andbeliefs.
That's casual, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I bet, like assuming, I have had this friend for a
long time and I'm just going toassume they don't want to do
this because last time they saidthey don't give a shit about
bowling.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, so I jumped to conclusions that they don't want
to go.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, but they might want to go this time.
Yeah, they want to see everyone.
Yeah, you're jumping toconclusions.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, Preexisting knowledge, experience or beliefs
.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, that's a very minor.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Example.
That's about as minor as itgets, I think.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I feel like, hey, I want to go get Chinese and
they're like I don't wantChinese.
And then the next time youdon't even recommend it Exactly.
And then they're like I reallywant some Chinese and just like
I don't know what you want.
What the fuck?
Last time you said it I thinkyou might have an anger problem.
Yeah, all right, what's next?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Inference, observation, confusion.
Okay, this one's cool.
This is an example.
Would be like you thinksomeone's rich because they have
a nice car.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Inference observation .
Right, so you observe somethingabout them or around them, or
that they do, and then youconclude who they are.
Personality wise.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
You just look at their Yeezys and you make all
these assumptions.
Yeah, and who?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
would wear those.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I only have three pairs.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
No, that's good, and I think right.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
This happens all the fucking time.
How we run, this is not even.
This is normal.
This is just life.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I think this is how our society runs.
Yeah, why people buy nice cars?
You know they can't afford it.
Yeah, they want people to thinkthat other people think you're
rich.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
You think you're cool because you have a Mercedes,
but it's the bottom of the lineThree, or I mean that's BMW.
Yeah, that's, that's three.
Yeah, that's BMW and BMW and Cclass C, class C as in crap, c
as in cat shit.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I mean, if you're buying a luxury car and it's C
class.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, s class for Mercedes.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
We're G wagon.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
That's it.
Those are the only two.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, if you, if you got a G wagon, I think you're
cool, I you know it's funny.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I have this association with G wagons of
criminals.
Yes, oh, mobsters, notnecessarily white collar
criminals too.
Yeah, I just imagine shadybusiness.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, just that.
But that's just me.
It's probably the movies,because every movie with every
bad person has an entourage ofG-wagons.
It's true.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Every one of them, but they're just so impractical
You've been conditioned.
In fact, they're so stupid thatthey're awesome.
Does that even make sense?
But if you Like, there's theseboxy inefficient.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
If you're constantly in a state of potentially being
in a shootout, they're probablya pretty practical car.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
You know what?
If I was a criminal like that,I would want a G-wagon with the
armor Bulletproof, bulletproofarmor.
That thing would be a fuckingtank.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I know when we reach a certain level we are going to
go nuts overlanding in a G-wagonOverland G-wagon.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, sweet, sweet, all right, what's another one?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Fortune-telling.
So fortune-telling involvesassuming that you know exactly
what will happen in the future.
I'm going to fail this test.
I'm not going to get thispromotion.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Jump into conclusions this is not going to work out.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, I'm not going to get the promotion.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I'm not going to get anything.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
That girl's not going to like me.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
She's going to think I'm ugly.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, we know what that girl doesn't want.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Someone who thinks they're ugly.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, she wants someone who's confident and if
you're the girl in like, she'snot going to like me.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Man, she's probably not going to like you.
Yeah, no one wants to be aroundthat kind of energy.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Doesn't matter how ugly you are.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You show up with confidence.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Shhh Bam.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
And you're funny and you're funny.
This is for the boys out there.
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
You show up in the club with confidence.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, you buy a round of drinks for a girl.
Hey, who is it?
Who's the comedian?
The big guy, ralphie May.
Yes, he's like, literally hehas a whole skit.
He's like I did pretty well fora fat guy Talking about, like,
hooking up with chicks.
I did pretty well for a fat guy.
He's like.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
He was probably, in my opinion, one of the funniest
comedians.
He was funny.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
All right, what's next?
Ok, mind reading yeah, here wego.
Yeah, mind reading involvesassuming that you can accurately
know what the other person orpeople are thinking.
This would be an example oflike this person doesn't like me
because they didn't say goodmorning or they didn't smile or
yada yada.
You just assume you know what'sgoing on in their head.
This funny is a lot of thisshit is everyone's assuming all
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these things about other peopleand not thinking about the
bullshit day that they are goingthrough.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, maybe their day wouldn't be so bullshit if they
weren't so worried about whateveryone else is thinking.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Well, I'm just thinking like if you're having a
day, yeah, and you're notlooking at everyone smiling and
happy, that doesn't mean youdon't like them.
That just means you have yourown stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, and certain people just RBF.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, rest in bitch face.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, like some people, just you just look at
them and they're like thatperson hates me and they're like
in their head going like Ireally like that person.
That's a nice person, I'm gladto be here.
They just jump in theconclusions Super introverted,
just making shit up all day.
All day Extreme extrapolation.
So extreme extrapolationinvolves taking a minor detail
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or event and using it in orderto conclude something relatively
major.
I love this example you likeheavy metal music.
You worship Satan, yeah.
Or like you voted for Trump,you must be a racist.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, that kind of thing All right.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
It's like taking something Extreme extrapolation.
Yeah, you know you live in acertain neighborhood, you know
you must be this.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, you live here.
You must be rich, or you livehere, you must be poor.
Yeah, you vote this way, youmust be a.
Whatever a degenerate, racistperson Goes both ways.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah, which is funny.
Extreme extrapolation.
Extreme extrapolation, takingsomething, making it extreme.
I love it.
Overgeneralization.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, overgeneralization involves
taking a piece of informationthat applies to specific cases
and then applying it everywhere.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, all cops are bad.
Yep, all politicians arecrooked or scum, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
That type of thing.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah All.
Rich people are assholes.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Evil, yeah All poor people are lazy, all poor people
are stupid.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, lazy, that's a good one yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
They think those are poor, they're lazy.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, which is all.
These are not true, right?
None of these are true.
None of them are true.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
None of it is true for everyone, because everyone
is a person.
Yeah, this is not.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Rich.
Some rich people are very lazy.
Yeah, because some poor peoplework really, really hard.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, so much people are trust fund babies.
Yeah, they didn't have to doshit yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So, some cops are great.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Some are not, some are terrible.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Turns out people are people.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, yeah, that's true Labeling.
So labeling involves makingassumptions about people based
on behaviors or opinions thatare stereotypically associated
with the group that they belongto.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yep, yeah, you know it's funny after reading these
examples of jumping toconclusions.
This just feels like howeveryone operates all the time.
Yeah, that basically everyone'sspending all of their time just
making assumptions abouteverything around them.
Yeah, just think like what.
And how much of it is wrong.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Most of it probably.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Like sit there and really audit yourself how much
of this is actually right.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And how much is.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
It is even relevant for you to even fucking think.
How much does it even matter?
How much does it matter?
So I just don't think aboutanything, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I mean all these things.
It's so good, though it reallyis good, because these are just
so practical.
Like we do this stuff all day,and what's crazy is, our brains
are wired to do it.
So if you don't want to do it,yeah, it's wired to be efficient
.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
If you don't want to be extremely biased towards
every person that you see andput them in some group based on
their race, their gender ortheir political affiliation or
their religious affiliation.
If you don't want to do that,you have to.
You have to like consciouslyyeah, not do it.
Yeah, like exactly, it's just,it's just how it is.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Which is funny, but it's we always it's.
I love this exam.
This is my favorite example.
I think I've mentioned this acouple of times on the podcast,
but if I'm late, it's mycircumstance.
If you're late, it's yourcharacter.
Yeah, I love that quote.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, I mean that's like the classic boss type.
I'm late.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Oh, you know, I had a rough morning.
I worked really hard last night.
You know, if you're late,you're lazy, you don't care.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, you don't own this, do you?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
No, I don't, yeah.
So it's like I was literallyabout to put my kid on the bus
and he shit all over the placeand I had to clean up an entire
room of shit.
Sorry, I'm 10 minutes late.
What is?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
it.
Why were you late on Tuesday?
Rules for the and not for me.
Here's some shit.
It's kind of lame, but you knowit's true.
It's true.
That's how people operate.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
That's how we operate .
So some solutions.
I love this absolute firstbullet.
We've got about five bulletshere to help you pull yourself
out of this constant state ofjumping to conclusions, and it
does require some intentionalwork, but here's the first one
Slow the mother fuck down andforce yourself to think through
a given.
So just slow down, think, slowyour mind down.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Just just call yourself out.
Just call your freaking selfout, just slow down and be like
oh man, I have this assumptionabout that person.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Oh why, yeah, this person's quiet.
They don't like me, they'reunhappy.
Yeah, this person is this.
Why don't they act a certainway?
This is you.
This is you Pushing what youthink how someone else should
act on someone else.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
People are different.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, most likely.
In that very specific example,it's that you weren't accepted
by your parents, and sotherefore, anyone around you
that doesn't affirm youobsessively, you feel like that
they don't appreciate you, orrespect you so you just got to
slow down.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
You got to slow down and think through that yeah.
And remember that everyone hastheir own shit going on, yeah,
straight up.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Like I remember um, um.
Anyone who knows me knows thatI just I talk a lot to strangers
.
Yeah, Um, uh.
My business partner, donnie, isfrom Savannah and we were in
some hotel in LA LA.
We were in the elevator and Iwas like what's up, man, where
are you from?
And he's like Savannah and meand Donnie just busted out
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laughing because we're in LA.
Yeah, who's from Savannah?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Not many, that guy that guy the guy in the elevator
, yeah, and it was just so funnyand if you hadn't, if you
hadn't talked to a random dude,you wouldn't have found out.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah and um, but it's just like like at the end of
the day, a lot of times, if youjust go, just go talk to people,
um, like I was, uh, this guywas uh, yeah, I assume he was
homeless.
He had a cart filled with stuffand he was walking on the road
so I went and talked to him and,um, because he had a guitar and
I was, and I had like 15minutes uh to kill, I was like
yeah, I was like, oh cool, I'mjust going to go talk to him,
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that'd be fun.
So I'm talking to him and he'slike.
He's like, yeah, man, I gotthis guitar, I love my guitar
all the time and, um, I'm justjust saving up for a case so it
doesn't get wet when it rains,and I'm just like this guy just
he loves his guitar.
He's just like.
He was so kind he didn't haveone negative thing to say.
(21:11):
Yeah, he uh didn't ask me formoney, he didn't ask me for a
case, he was just, we were justtalking.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, he's like human to human human to human, he's
like yeah, man, he works in aperson.
We're all, we're all trying tofigure things out.
Not homeless guy to personwho's on a business trip.
Yeah, not, you know, person whohas guitars and person who has
one has, one needs a case, andneeds a case I mean human to
human.
Yeah, that's crazy.
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So you could, you could havemade a fuckload of assumptions.
Oh, some another homeless drugaddict probably try to be a
musician, some fucking guysteals from his grandma to buy
whatever drugs.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I mean people do this shit.
Yeah, you know oh, here'sanother low life fucking street
urchin and you just do all thesethings and it's horrible, I
know, and you talk to him forfive minutes.
You're like oh it's great guy.
Turns out people are people.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, yep, what's next?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Another thing we can do, bro, is actively ask
yourself what information couldhelp you reach a valid
conclusion and how you can getthat information.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, I love this.
So the biggest tip, I think,and jumping to conclusions, is
like be very mindful of whatactual information you have,
that's fact and what of it isjust that's easier said than
done, depending on where you'rewhere you're getting it.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
But yeah, yeah, if it's an office rumor, don't.
Don't treat it like it's thegospel.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah, just what?
What do you know?
My favorite thing to do is justa meet, just go straight up to
someone and ask them.
Like, if someone talks about meand I hear it through someone
else, my favorite thing to do isjust to go right up to him
randomly and just say such andsuch said this.
Did you say that?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, absolutely.
We should all be doing that.
Just just cut out all themiddle man bullshit.
What's the truth?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
All the gossip?
Oh, you didn't say that.
Cool, all right.
Oh, you did say that, why?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Why don't you say to me yeah, what's next?
Collect as much information asyou can before forming an
additional hypothesis.
Yeah, there we go.
Question all your premises andensure that they are well, well
found, well founded Will foundit.
Will founded question All yourpremises.
I mean, all this is just underlike, just take time to think
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through it.
Yeah, take time.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Yeah, why do I make all these assumptions about this
group?
Why do I do extremeextrapolation?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
You know, why do I think that?
Let's you know, whatever.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, and some of this is generational right, yeah
, right, passed down.
Like if you heard your parentssay a certain thing about a
certain group of people over andover again, you have to like,
yeah, intentionally deprogramyourself.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah, but same thing if you grew up with like the
hyper religious thing.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, you know like, if you watch Lord of the Rings,
you're worshiping Satan.
Yeah, you know, yeah, or theopposite would be, so anti
religious they're like oh, allthese nut jobs are idiots.
Yeah, you know like.
Yeah, no, you can't have anentire group of individuals and
every single one of them beIdiots.
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Idiots, yeah, people are people.
People are people.
Man, just trying to figure itout, just trying to figure it
out, I mean, most of this shitis we talk about this,
everything we're doing, all thesubconscious decisions, yada,
yada, yada.
It's programming.
You know right.
Yeah, you were raised.
Your parents said all this.
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You went to school.
You hung out with these people.
Yeah, how much of it is yoursand how much is it that you
picked up?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So many of us would like to think that it's yours,
that it's all ours.
I operate fully out of my willand that's just not true.
That's fucking hilarious.
And then they, and then someonecuts them off in traffic and
they lose their mind.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, how much of it is yours and how
much is it conditioning fromeverything, everything From
being a kid, from your parentstelling you not to play or not
to be loud, not to do this, andsquashing your spirit?
You know you're playing withLegos, wrong, yeah All the way
up to school.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Where every day you have to class, where you're told
that you have to sit there andlisten.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You have to.
You have to raise your hand totake a piss.
Yeah, you think, you think.
You know.
Thousands of years ago, humanswere like can I go take a pee?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
They're in the tribe.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
They're in the tribe, you know can I go take a pee
pee?
No, you just piss you, just, ifyou go, you just go take a shit
.
You know you don't askpermission.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
You know, I never thought about that.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
These are the little things, the little things.
These are the little ones,there's the big ones, but now
we're getting down to like.
But every every piece of obeyand sit down and shut up from
when you're a kid and don't dothis and don't do that.
And then boys don't do this andgirls don't do that.
Yeah, do you do.
You don't cry if you this andyou don't do this, and you're
just.
Every, every time, a littlepiece of you that is your true
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self gets chipped away andconditioned yeah, and then you
want to you want to act likeyou're yourself.
You are just an amalgamation ofall the shit that everyone told
you you were supposed to be.
Yeah, and I'm not saying Ifigured it out, I'm trying to
unwind it.
It's a big fucking mess.
You know it's a lot of twine.
Yeah, but you have to thinkabout everything that influenced
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you growing up.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, you know damn right.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
So yeah, don't jump to conclusions.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Oh, man, on that note .
Oh yeah, last piece.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Oh yeah, what do we got, ask yourself whether you
might be rushing to form aconclusion too early.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, probably yes.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I think so probably.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And ask yourself if you even need to come to a
conclusion.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Ask yourself if it matters.
Does it matter, yeah, and areyou really going to fail the
test?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
No, no, are all cops bad.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Cherokee County.
I'm just kidding, I'm totallykidding.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Are all politicians corrupt?
All of them I mean, I fall intothe lens of some of them are
extremely corrupt.
The majority of them just foundthemselves in a system where
they have to maintain corruption, but they're wealthy enough to
where they've made themselvesokay with it.
Yeah, and then some of them areactively trying to do a good
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job, I think.
And that's probably themajority of human beings in that
construct.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
What I think that some people don't think about is
you can still be selfish andmake selfish decisions for you
and your family and still careabout it.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Being a politician too.
Yeah, I mean, I'd rather have apolitician who cares about
trying to do something great andmight do some like shady money
stuff on the side.
That's honestly whatever.
Yeah, it's par for the coursereally.
Yeah, it is what it is.
I mean, you don't get intopolitics to not make more money
Right, to not use your knowledgeand influence to increase your
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wealth.
Yeah, we all do.
Why the fuck would you joinpolitics If that's not part of
it?
Yeah, so I get that.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
But you can still care.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Right, you know, yeah , but then there's the ones that
, the dinosaurs that are sodisconnected.
Right, the term limits.
You know what everyone talksabout term.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, what's his name?
It just froze three times inthe past two months.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Imagine you've been a career politician You've had,
you know, bodyguards and privatejets.
Private jets flying around allthis shit for 40 years, are you?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
trying to give that up.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
No, but I'm saying, how can?
How can you even be connectedto the average American at that
point?
I know, I mean, at some pointyou have to forget what it's
like to even operate in modernworld.
Oh yeah, as a career politician.
Oh yeah, because you're justyour life is this.
It's a completely differentthing.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Get the dinosaurs the fuck out, get them out.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
What's the?
What's the story?
The lady who her daughter haspower of attorney over her, her
entire state, but she's still anactive like senator or
congresswoman.
I don't know that.
One's been hitting the, hittingthe feed quite a bit.
I don't follow any of it.
That's all bullshit to me.
You jumping to conclusions, bro.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yep, yep, you caught me.
Red handed parts were cuttingout.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
It's almost you jumping to conclusions.
Thank you for listening.
Bro, bro, what's up?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
last episode, we talked about the power of the
mind.
Yes, and this is pretty, apretty specific Piece of that,
but I wanted to break this outinto a separate episode because
I feel like this is somethingthat people do every single day.
Mother and the title of this isjumping to conclusions reminds
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me of Office space.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, which one makes the mat where you jump to
conclusions.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Oh man, I don't remember that, I don't remember
that anyway.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, I love your example in the last episode.
Your bodice at the end of theday says, hey, what's have a
meeting tomorrow morning andthen you go home.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You go like what's that about?
I'm absolutely obsessed.
You create all these scripts inyour head.
You're like they're gonna laylayoffs.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Demoted yeah something went wrong.
Something went wrong.
I'm a piece of shit, yeah, thatkind of thing.
And then the next morning theboss is like oh wait, yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I forgot which.
Yeah, I mean, think about it,right.
Just think, like when yourspouse says like hey, why didn't
you do the dishes?
And you jump to the conclusionthat they hate you and think
that you're a terrible piece ofshit.
Yeah it happens, some people arein that place in life.
So we jump to conclusions.
So we're gonna break it downtoday from a focus standpoint,
(01:18):
from a science standpoint, andwe're gonna hit this whole thing
of One title.
This episode could have beenfact, fiction and focus, because
sometimes we take a few facts.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, I turn it out a shit ton of fiction.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, create this series of short stories.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, yeah, you take your little.
Yeah, that's never mind.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
So, anyway, that's what we're talking about today.
Let's dig in.
I Write these are you, I havethose.
(02:03):
I'm Jonathan, oh, and I'm BrianWell this is the focus cast,
where we help removeDistractions, increase focus so
you can live a life withintentions.
Sweet.
Live a life on intention, inintention, with intention, with
intention maybe right.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Does that make the most sense?
I think so.
All right, so we're talkingabout jumping to conclusions.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, it's a big one when it comes to focus, because
we focus on a lot of bullshitthat we create in our heads.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, you might even say Most of it's bullshit.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, most of it.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
You know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna talk through
this and then we're gonna comeup with some nice little tips on
Not jumping to conclusion.
Fuck yeah, we got tips in here.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
We got some tips in here, bro.
All right definition seemspretty obvious, but we just
threw it in there jumping.
Jumping into conclusions is aphenomenon where people Reach a
conclusion prematurely on thebasis of an on the basis of
insufficient information.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, man, the cognitive tendency of jumping to
conclusions, abbreviated a JTCyou abbreviation nerds out there
is implicated in social anxietyand delusional disorders, and
what researchers call the threatanticipation model from
psychology today yeah, so thebrain?
(03:25):
The brain wants to functionquickly, right, so it has some
shortcuts.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, no, exactly, that's in here Somewhere nice.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
No, seriously.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Oh it's, it's an efficiency thing.
Yeah you know, because In thereand a regular day, so you don't
have to sit there and likeanalyze every single thing and
try and get all the informationall the time.
Yeah, make some super informeddecision, like you're buying a
house.
Imagine if it felt like buyinga house, if you're just gonna
say yes to someone asking you ifyou want, I like Whatever, go
to lunch, go to lunch.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, you know things like that right.
So, yeah, it's just beingefficient.
But in that sometimes peoplemight have a tendency to jump to
conclusions.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, this is in new research by the University of
East University of East Anglia,uk's James Hurley and colleagues
2018 JTC interpretation.
Bias is Is tested as a processthat leads people to assume,
wrongly, that a situationpresents them with physical,
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social or physiological harm.
Oh yeah, so a piece of this.
In fact, if it's jumping toconclusions, I guess it's
typically negative.
Yeah it's not jumping to.
I guess delusional would belike Everything's gonna work out
.
I'm gonna drink 40 beers andDrive a drive a Porsche that I
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rented.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I think that might be just and everything's gonna be
fine.
I'm like an idiot, but yeah, inthis context, jtc is typically
you're jumping to negativeconclusions right, that is
situation presents them withphysical, social or
physiological harm.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, yeah, everything.
Everyone doesn't smile at you.
They hate you.
Yeah, they don't say goodmorning.
They're pissed off at you.
Yes your boss wants the meetingor whatever.
We keep talking about that one.
Yeah, someone's getting fired,yeah it's probably you.
Yeah, suck, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
That sounds exhausting.
Yeah, that sounds exhausting.
So you're confronted withemotionally ambiguous situation
and automatically conclude thatthe situation will come out
badly for you Because otherpeople are out to hurt you.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, jumping to conclusions, man, that does
sound exhausting.
So why, yeah?
Why do we do this?
Yeah, the main reason whypeople jump to conclusions is
that our cognitive system relieson mental shortcuts, called
heuristics.
I just learned this term.
Which increased the speed ofour judgment and decision-making
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processes at the cost ofreducing their accuracy and
optimality.
That's from Effective ology,damn so.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
There it is, no it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, you don't want to treat every single decision
like your buying a house.
Yeah, you know, a huge lifechanging decision every time
Just to decide what color pencilyou want to, what color pen you
want to buy for the office.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So anyway, yeah, shortcuts make sense.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, You're just trying to function.
Yeah, Um, I think.
Have you met the person in a ina conversation where they
finish your sentence constantly?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I don't hang out with those people.
I cut them out of my life.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So there's people in this world, outside of your
perfect life, jonathan, ofwonderful human beings.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I gave them that, I gave them the axe.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
You came to some conclusions on that.
Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
But anyway.
So yes, uh, for workenvironments or things like that
, when you're in a meeting orsomething like that or you're
talking to someone, there'scertain people that certain
people do this, there's reallybad at it and, um, they'll just
constantly assume that they knowwhat you're going to say and
then they just just step rightover you and kind of finish your
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thought, even if it's not right, and keep going.
Sounds like an extreme exampleof like someone who's pretty
irritating, super obnoxious whenjumping to conclusions.
It's like in an argument with aspouse and they're like they say
something.
I mean I've done this a fewtimes.
I've had to, I've had to stopmyself or say like okay, that
was wrong.
Um, you know where my wifewould start to say something and
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then I would finish and she'slike that's not at all what I
was going to say and I'm justlike, oh, shit, I go not like an
idiot.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
And if you're doing that and you're wrong all the
time, yeah, shut up, stoptalking.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Oh, the concept of jumping to conclusions,
generally seen as a cognitivebias, in cases where people jump
to conclusions as a result ofan imperfect way in which our
cognitive systems work, whichcan cause us to rush ahead and
make intuitive judgments.
You know, it's funny, right,like?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
hit the last bit without relying on sufficient
information and a thoroughreasoning process.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Oh, yeah, that's important, um, but what's crazy
is like in a pursuit ofefficiency games.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
You lose accuracy.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
So, anyway, what is it?
What is the classic?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
thing like speed, cost and time.
Oh, no quality, quality, timeand cost yes.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Cost time equality Pick two.
Yeah, pick two.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, so you can't have it all.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, we're getting our house renovated and I was
like I want to do this within mybudget and I wanted to be good,
so I'm just going to move outof my house and whatever is done
, we'll move back in.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
You've given up the time, I've given up the time,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I mean, once our family settled in an Airbnb
outside of the house, likewhatever.
Yeah, it is what it is Like.
I'm not going to want to moveback.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Anyway, jumping to conclusions.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
So here's some examples ways we JTC, jtc, bro,
casual assumption, casual.
Oh, I love these.
Okay, um, these are great.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, this is just kind of a list of the most
common or whatever, the waysthat people jump to conclusions.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, so we have seven ways that human beings JTC
and these are good, right JTCNumber one casual assumption.
Casual assumption involvesmaking a relatively minor,
intuitive assumption that isbased on your preexisting
knowledge, experience andbeliefs.
That's casual, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I bet, like assuming, I have had this friend for a
long time and I'm just going toassume they don't want to do
this because last time they saidthey don't give a shit about
bowling.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, so I jumped to conclusions that they don't want
to go.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, but they might want to go this time.
Yeah, they want to see everyone.
Yeah, you're jumping toconclusions.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, Preexisting knowledge, experience or beliefs
.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, that's a very minor.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Example.
That's about as minor as itgets, I think.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I feel like, hey, I want to go get Chinese and
they're like I don't wantChinese.
And then the next time youdon't even recommend it Exactly.
And then they're like I reallywant some Chinese and just like
I don't know what you want.
What the fuck?
Last time you said it I thinkyou might have an anger problem.
Yeah, all right, what's next?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Inference, observation, confusion.
Okay, this one's cool.
This is an example.
Would be like you thinksomeone's rich because they have
a nice car.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Inference observation .
Right, so you observe somethingabout them or around them, or
that they do, and then youconclude who they are.
Personality wise.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
You just look at their Yeezys and you make all
these assumptions.
Yeah, and who?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
would wear those.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I only have three pairs.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
No, that's good, and I think right.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
This happens all the fucking time.
How we run, this is not even.
This is normal.
This is just life.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I think this is how our society runs.
Yeah, why people buy nice cars?
You know they can't afford it.
Yeah, they want people to thinkthat other people think you're
rich.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
You think you're cool because you have a Mercedes,
but it's the bottom of the lineThree, or I mean that's BMW.
Yeah, that's, that's three.
Yeah, that's BMW and BMW and Cclass C, class C as in crap, c
as in cat shit.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I mean, if you're buying a luxury car and it's C
class.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, s class for Mercedes.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
We're G wagon.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
That's it.
Those are the only two.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, if you, if you got a G wagon, I think you're
cool, I you know it's funny.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I have this association with G wagons of
criminals.
Yes, oh, mobsters, notnecessarily white collar
criminals too.
Yeah, I just imagine shadybusiness.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, just that.
But that's just me.
It's probably the movies,because every movie with every
bad person has an entourage ofG-wagons.
It's true.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Every one of them, but they're just so impractical
You've been conditioned.
In fact, they're so stupid thatthey're awesome.
Does that even make sense?
But if you Like, there's theseboxy inefficient.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
If you're constantly in a state of potentially being
in a shootout, they're probablya pretty practical car.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
You know what?
If I was a criminal like that,I would want a G-wagon with the
armor Bulletproof, bulletproofarmor.
That thing would be a fuckingtank.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I know when we reach a certain level we are going to
go nuts overlanding in a G-wagonOverland G-wagon.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, sweet, sweet, all right, what's another one?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Fortune-telling.
So fortune-telling involvesassuming that you know exactly
what will happen in the future.
I'm going to fail this test.
I'm not going to get thispromotion.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Jump into conclusions this is not going to work out.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, I'm not going to get the promotion.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I'm not going to get anything.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
That girl's not going to like me.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
She's going to think I'm ugly.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, we know what that girl doesn't want.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Someone who thinks they're ugly.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, she wants someone who's confident and if
you're the girl in like, she'snot going to like me.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Man, she's probably not going to like you.
Yeah, no one wants to be aroundthat kind of energy.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Doesn't matter how ugly you are.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You show up with confidence.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Shhh Bam.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
And you're funny and you're funny.
This is for the boys out there.
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
You show up in the club with confidence.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, you buy a round of drinks for a girl.
Hey, who is it?
Who's the comedian?
The big guy, ralphie May.
Yes, he's like, literally hehas a whole skit.
He's like I did pretty well fora fat guy Talking about, like,
hooking up with chicks.
I did pretty well for a fat guy.
He's like.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
He was probably, in my opinion, one of the funniest
comedians.
He was funny.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
All right, what's next?
Ok, mind reading yeah, here wego.
Yeah, mind reading involvesassuming that you can accurately
know what the other person orpeople are thinking.
This would be an example oflike this person doesn't like me
because they didn't say goodmorning or they didn't smile or
yada yada.
You just assume you know what'sgoing on in their head.
This funny is a lot of thisshit is everyone's assuming all
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these things about other peopleand not thinking about the
bullshit day that they are goingthrough.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, maybe their day wouldn't be so bullshit if they
weren't so worried about whateveryone else is thinking.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Well, I'm just thinking like if you're having a
day, yeah, and you're notlooking at everyone smiling and
happy, that doesn't mean youdon't like them.
That just means you have yourown stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, and certain people just RBF.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, rest in bitch face.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, like some people, just you just look at
them and they're like thatperson hates me and they're like
in their head going like Ireally like that person.
That's a nice person, I'm gladto be here.
They just jump in theconclusions Super introverted,
just making shit up all day.
All day Extreme extrapolation.
So extreme extrapolationinvolves taking a minor detail
(14:59):
or event and using it in orderto conclude something relatively
major.
I love this example you likeheavy metal music.
You worship Satan, yeah.
Or like you voted for Trump,you must be a racist.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, that kind of thing All right.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
It's like taking something Extreme extrapolation.
Yeah, you know you live in acertain neighborhood, you know
you must be this.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, you live here.
You must be rich, or you livehere, you must be poor.
Yeah, you vote this way, youmust be a.
Whatever a degenerate, racistperson Goes both ways.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah, which is funny.
Extreme extrapolation.
Extreme extrapolation, takingsomething, making it extreme.
I love it.
Overgeneralization.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, overgeneralization involves
taking a piece of informationthat applies to specific cases
and then applying it everywhere.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, all cops are bad.
Yep, all politicians arecrooked or scum, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
That type of thing.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah All.
Rich people are assholes.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Evil, yeah All poor people are lazy, all poor people
are stupid.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, lazy, that's a good one yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
They think those are poor, they're lazy.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, which is all.
These are not true, right?
None of these are true.
None of them are true.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
None of it is true for everyone, because everyone
is a person.
Yeah, this is not.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Rich.
Some rich people are very lazy.
Yeah, because some poor peoplework really, really hard.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, so much people are trust fund babies.
Yeah, they didn't have to doshit yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So, some cops are great.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Some are not, some are terrible.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Turns out people are people.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, yeah, that's true Labeling.
So labeling involves makingassumptions about people based
on behaviors or opinions thatare stereotypically associated
with the group that they belongto.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yep, yeah, you know it's funny after reading these
examples of jumping toconclusions.
This just feels like howeveryone operates all the time.
Yeah, that basically everyone'sspending all of their time just
making assumptions abouteverything around them.
Yeah, just think like what.
And how much of it is wrong.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Most of it probably.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Like sit there and really audit yourself how much
of this is actually right.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And how much is.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
It is even relevant for you to even fucking think.
How much does it even matter?
How much does it matter?
So I just don't think aboutanything, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I mean all these things.
It's so good, though it reallyis good, because these are just
so practical.
Like we do this stuff all day,and what's crazy is, our brains
are wired to do it.
So if you don't want to do it,yeah, it's wired to be efficient
.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
If you don't want to be extremely biased towards
every person that you see andput them in some group based on
their race, their gender ortheir political affiliation or
their religious affiliation.
If you don't want to do that,you have to.
You have to like consciouslyyeah, not do it.
Yeah, like exactly, it's just,it's just how it is.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Which is funny, but it's we always it's.
I love this exam.
This is my favorite example.
I think I've mentioned this acouple of times on the podcast,
but if I'm late, it's mycircumstance.
If you're late, it's yourcharacter.
Yeah, I love that quote.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, I mean that's like the classic boss type.
I'm late.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Oh, you know, I had a rough morning.
I worked really hard last night.
You know, if you're late,you're lazy, you don't care.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, you don't own this, do you?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
No, I don't, yeah.
So it's like I was literallyabout to put my kid on the bus
and he shit all over the placeand I had to clean up an entire
room of shit.
Sorry, I'm 10 minutes late.
What is?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
it.
Why were you late on Tuesday?
Rules for the and not for me.
Here's some shit.
It's kind of lame, but you knowit's true.
It's true.
That's how people operate.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
That's how we operate .
So some solutions.
I love this absolute firstbullet.
We've got about five bulletshere to help you pull yourself
out of this constant state ofjumping to conclusions, and it
does require some intentionalwork, but here's the first one
Slow the mother fuck down andforce yourself to think through
a given.
So just slow down, think, slowyour mind down.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Just just call yourself out.
Just call your freaking selfout, just slow down and be like
oh man, I have this assumptionabout that person.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Oh why, yeah, this person's quiet.
They don't like me, they'reunhappy.
Yeah, this person is this.
Why don't they act a certainway?
This is you.
This is you Pushing what youthink how someone else should
act on someone else.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
People are different.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, most likely.
In that very specific example,it's that you weren't accepted
by your parents, and sotherefore, anyone around you
that doesn't affirm youobsessively, you feel like that
they don't appreciate you, orrespect you so you just got to
slow down.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
You got to slow down and think through that yeah.
And remember that everyone hastheir own shit going on, yeah,
straight up.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Like I remember um, um.
Anyone who knows me knows thatI just I talk a lot to strangers
.
Yeah, Um, uh.
My business partner, donnie, isfrom Savannah and we were in
some hotel in LA LA.
We were in the elevator and Iwas like what's up, man, where
are you from?
And he's like Savannah and meand Donnie just busted out
(20:17):
laughing because we're in LA.
Yeah, who's from Savannah?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Not many, that guy that guy the guy in the elevator
, yeah, and it was just so funnyand if you hadn't, if you
hadn't talked to a random dude,you wouldn't have found out.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah and um, but it's just like like at the end of
the day, a lot of times, if youjust go, just go talk to people,
um, like I was, uh, this guywas uh, yeah, I assume he was
homeless.
He had a cart filled with stuffand he was walking on the road
so I went and talked to him and,um, because he had a guitar and
I was, and I had like 15minutes uh to kill, I was like
yeah, I was like, oh cool, I'mjust going to go talk to him,
(20:49):
that'd be fun.
So I'm talking to him and he'slike.
He's like, yeah, man, I gotthis guitar, I love my guitar
all the time and, um, I'm justjust saving up for a case so it
doesn't get wet when it rains,and I'm just like this guy just
he loves his guitar.
He's just like.
He was so kind he didn't haveone negative thing to say.
(21:11):
Yeah, he uh didn't ask me formoney, he didn't ask me for a
case, he was just, we were justtalking.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, he's like human to human human to human, he's
like yeah, man, he works in aperson.
We're all, we're all trying tofigure things out.
Not homeless guy to personwho's on a business trip.
Yeah, not, you know, person whohas guitars and person who has
one has, one needs a case, andneeds a case I mean human to
human.
Yeah, that's crazy.
(21:41):
So you could, you could havemade a fuckload of assumptions.
Oh, some another homeless drugaddict probably try to be a
musician, some fucking guysteals from his grandma to buy
whatever drugs.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I mean people do this shit.
Yeah, you know oh, here'sanother low life fucking street
urchin and you just do all thesethings and it's horrible, I
know, and you talk to him forfive minutes.
You're like oh it's great guy.
Turns out people are people.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, yep, what's next?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Another thing we can do, bro, is actively ask
yourself what information couldhelp you reach a valid
conclusion and how you can getthat information.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, I love this.
So the biggest tip, I think,and jumping to conclusions, is
like be very mindful of whatactual information you have,
that's fact and what of it isjust that's easier said than
done, depending on where you'rewhere you're getting it.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
But yeah, yeah, if it's an office rumor, don't.
Don't treat it like it's thegospel.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah, just what?
What do you know?
My favorite thing to do is justa meet, just go straight up to
someone and ask them.
Like, if someone talks about meand I hear it through someone
else, my favorite thing to do isjust to go right up to him
randomly and just say such andsuch said this.
Did you say that?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, absolutely.
We should all be doing that.
Just just cut out all themiddle man bullshit.
What's the truth?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
All the gossip?
Oh, you didn't say that.
Cool, all right.
Oh, you did say that, why?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Why don't you say to me yeah, what's next?
Collect as much information asyou can before forming an
additional hypothesis.
Yeah, there we go.
Question all your premises andensure that they are well, well
found, well founded Will foundit.
Will founded question All yourpremises.
I mean, all this is just underlike, just take time to think
(23:38):
through it.
Yeah, take time.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Yeah, why do I make all these assumptions about this
group?
Why do I do extremeextrapolation?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
You know, why do I think that?
Let's you know, whatever.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, and some of this is generational right, yeah
, right, passed down.
Like if you heard your parentssay a certain thing about a
certain group of people over andover again, you have to like,
yeah, intentionally deprogramyourself.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah, but same thing if you grew up with like the
hyper religious thing.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, you know like, if you watch Lord of the Rings,
you're worshiping Satan.
Yeah, you know, yeah, or theopposite would be, so anti
religious they're like oh, allthese nut jobs are idiots.
Yeah, you know like.
Yeah, no, you can't have anentire group of individuals and
every single one of them beIdiots.
(24:35):
Idiots, yeah, people are people.
People are people.
Man, just trying to figure itout, just trying to figure it
out, I mean, most of this shitis we talk about this,
everything we're doing, all thesubconscious decisions, yada,
yada, yada.
It's programming.
You know right.
Yeah, you were raised.
Your parents said all this.
(24:55):
You went to school.
You hung out with these people.
Yeah, how much of it is yoursand how much is it that you
picked up?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So many of us would like to think that it's yours,
that it's all ours.
I operate fully out of my willand that's just not true.
That's fucking hilarious.
And then they, and then someonecuts them off in traffic and
they lose their mind.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, how much of it is yours and how
much is it conditioning fromeverything, everything From
being a kid, from your parentstelling you not to play or not
to be loud, not to do this, andsquashing your spirit?
You know you're playing withLegos, wrong, yeah All the way
up to school.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Where every day you have to class, where you're told
that you have to sit there andlisten.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You have to.
You have to raise your hand totake a piss.
Yeah, you think, you think.
You know.
Thousands of years ago, humanswere like can I go take a pee?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
They're in the tribe.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
They're in the tribe, you know can I go take a pee
pee?
No, you just piss you, just, ifyou go, you just go take a shit
.
You know you don't askpermission.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
You know, I never thought about that.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
These are the little things, the little things.
These are the little ones,there's the big ones, but now
we're getting down to like.
But every every piece of obeyand sit down and shut up from
when you're a kid and don't dothis and don't do that.
And then boys don't do this andgirls don't do that.
Yeah, do you do.
You don't cry if you this andyou don't do this, and you're
just.
Every, every time, a littlepiece of you that is your true
(26:30):
self gets chipped away andconditioned yeah, and then you
want to you want to act likeyou're yourself.
You are just an amalgamation ofall the shit that everyone told
you you were supposed to be.
Yeah, and I'm not saying Ifigured it out, I'm trying to
unwind it.
It's a big fucking mess.
You know it's a lot of twine.
Yeah, but you have to thinkabout everything that influenced
(26:54):
you growing up.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, you know damn right.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
So yeah, don't jump to conclusions.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Oh, man, on that note .
Oh yeah, last piece.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Oh yeah, what do we got, ask yourself whether you
might be rushing to form aconclusion too early.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, probably yes.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I think so probably.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And ask yourself if you even need to come to a
conclusion.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Ask yourself if it matters.
Does it matter, yeah, and areyou really going to fail the
test?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
No, no, are all cops bad.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Cherokee County.
I'm just kidding, I'm totallykidding.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Are all politicians corrupt?
All of them I mean, I fall intothe lens of some of them are
extremely corrupt.
The majority of them just foundthemselves in a system where
they have to maintain corruption, but they're wealthy enough to
where they've made themselvesokay with it.
Yeah, and then some of them areactively trying to do a good
(27:57):
job, I think.
And that's probably themajority of human beings in that
construct.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
What I think that some people don't think about is
you can still be selfish andmake selfish decisions for you
and your family and still careabout it.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Being a politician too.
Yeah, I mean, I'd rather have apolitician who cares about
trying to do something great andmight do some like shady money
stuff on the side.
That's honestly whatever.
Yeah, it's par for the coursereally.
Yeah, it is what it is.
I mean, you don't get intopolitics to not make more money
Right, to not use your knowledgeand influence to increase your
(28:37):
wealth.
Yeah, we all do.
Why the fuck would you joinpolitics If that's not part of
it?
Yeah, so I get that.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
But you can still care.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Right, you know, yeah , but then there's the ones that
, the dinosaurs that are sodisconnected.
Right, the term limits.
You know what everyone talksabout term.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, what's his name?
It just froze three times inthe past two months.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Imagine you've been a career politician You've had,
you know, bodyguards and privatejets.
Private jets flying around allthis shit for 40 years, are you?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
trying to give that up.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
No, but I'm saying, how can?
How can you even be connectedto the average American at that
point?
I know, I mean, at some pointyou have to forget what it's
like to even operate in modernworld.
Oh yeah, as a career politician.
Oh yeah, because you're justyour life is this.
It's a completely differentthing.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Get the dinosaurs the fuck out, get them out.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
What's the?
What's the story?
The lady who her daughter haspower of attorney over her, her
entire state, but she's still anactive like senator or
congresswoman.
I don't know that.
One's been hitting the, hittingthe feed quite a bit.
I don't follow any of it.
That's all bullshit to me.
You jumping to conclusions, bro.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yep, yep, you caught me.
Red handed parts were cuttingout.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
It's almost you jumping to conclusions.
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