November 30, 2023 • 52 mins
Join us for an inspiring episode of The Focus Cast as we explore the profound impact of personal growth on our professional achievements. In this engaging discussion, we reflect on our experiences throughout the year 2023, with a special focus on our transition into the Appleverse and our adventures in music production.
00:00 Year-End Recap and Personal Goals|
07:48 Personal Growth and Future Goals
18:39 Personal Growth and Future Goals
29:06 Future Goals and Life Direction
43:03 The Importance of Adventure and Growth
51:43 Recording and Promoting the Focus Cast
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So we're coming to the end of the year, yep, coming
to episode 100.
You know what that means, yeah,what that means.
A little bit of a recap.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Oh, recap.
Except this time we're notwasted on Moonshine like our
last recap.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, so when we rounded out last year around
episode 50, we just did somerecaps and some some progress
episodes, and so we're going todo the same thing.
This should be episode 98.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah, kind of talk about the podcast experience.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
So this episode we're going to talk about personal
and professional goals what weaccomplished this year.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Talking about our podcast experience?
Not yet.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Next episode Got you and we're going to talk about
some goals for 2024.
And the next episode we'll talkabout a little recap on the
focus cast some numbers, somemetrics, what we've learned, and
then episode 100, we willreveal what our next phase
strategy is for the focus cast.
So this episode may inspire youto go ahead and start some
(01:03):
professional goals, review yourprogress for the year, oh and
set some goals for the nextphase, whatever that is year,
month, quarter, AbsolutelyDecade.
So let's dig in.
Let's dig in.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Because you can't measure.
If you don't, what is itMeasure?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
what matters.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Jonathan Noel and I'm Brian Noel.
This is the focus cast when wehelp you remove distractions,
increase focus.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
You can live a life with Intentions, intentions.
So personal yeah firstintentions, oh man, personal and
professional goals.
So what do you feel like youaccomplished this year, jonathan
?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Let's see 2023, at the beginning of the year, let's
see, we pretty much just gotthe space, yep.
So I definitely writing all themusic was a big growing
learning experience for all ofour channels.
So I've been a musician.
We've mentioned this before,but I had not written songs for
(02:16):
YouTube channels.
That was new.
Yeah.
So you know that was fun, itwas a challenge.
You know just hopped in andlike, hey, let's just once we
want something with the reggaevibe and I'm like, okay, you
know, shit like that, orwhatever funk.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, I remember watching you.
So we got for the studio, wegot Logic, we got a new Mac we
got the full native instrumentspack.
Yep.
Universal audio pack.
And I remember watching youwhen you first started Getting
into the Apple universe.
The Apple verse yeah first youhad to get used to Apple.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, every 45 seconds.
I was about to raise a snap.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
So the question is, now that you know what you know,
would you stay Apple or wouldyou stay PC if you had to pick
one?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I like Apple.
Yeah, you know, I like sayingApple Pretty much.
I like PC for certain things.
I mean, like what?
Like getting viruses.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Wow, you sound like every other guy every other
Apple fanboy.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
We all don't shoot good viruses every 45 minutes.
The shit's expensive.
I mean you can buildtechnically a more powerful
computer.
Yeah, if you build yourself forthe money.
Yeah.
That's not even a question.
Yeah.
That's a fact.
Yeah.
So you can have whatever 60gigs of RAM or whatever 64 and
insane processing power for thesame money.
(03:36):
Yeah so, but Apple, when youhave all your stuff and you're
creating things, why not?
Why not?
I think it's great.
I like Logic too.
Yeah.
I've never used.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
What's the other Pro?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Tools, so I could probably get used to that.
But yeah.
So now I'm in the Logicverse,but that was a huge learning
experience.
Yeah, I mean, you crush it now,you can crush it Exactly, going
from being just like aguitarist, bass player to
basically a producer.
Yeah.
More or less writing a song,start to finish like for
(04:09):
specific purposes.
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, because, like for 400 Gunner, you know we'll
go on an adventure and I'll belike bro, I'm thinking this vibe
and you're like cool and youjust go make a song and it's
dope yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yep With everything, yep, trying to write songs that
fit the vibes of the whateverwe're putting out.
Yeah.
All the way from ambientbacking tracks to random tracks
for reviews, just whatever.
Yeah, anything and everything.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I was like bro for our gun and knife cleaning
videos.
I would like a chill lo-fiwhere we hit play on the tape
recorder.
And I even bought an old taperecorder Yep yeah.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Got to set the scene, definitely grew in that way and
just being comfortable withcontent, yeah, straight up.
I was never putting myself outthere that much kind of person.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, you know, your time spent on titles and
captions has reduced.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yep by about 10%.
Well, I'm just saying being onthe internet.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, I think you had like three posts when you
started the year.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Exactly and it pushed me to.
You know it kind of this yeardemystified making videos.
Yeah.
Because it seemed before youwatch people do anything on.
Youtube.
You're like, how the fuck doyou make this?
Yeah, how do you make this.
And it just felt difficult.
Yeah, but learning Adobe justbeing more proficient.
(05:39):
It's been a huge growth yearfor this whole digital age.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
What's your Instagram , johnzilla9?
Yeah, yeah, those base videos,man, they're sick.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
They're pretty sick.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Very nasty.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I don't know if I'll keep them that complicated.
I might reduce the cameraangles.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
And that word all starts, though.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
It starts complex and then just like all right,
what's the minimal.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
That's the big, that's.
You know what I realized, likewhat's the amount we, what's the
amount that you can do to whereyou keep going?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Because if you over complicate the system and you
stop you know, that's a goodprinciple right there.
That's not, then you don't keepgoing.
Yeah, so if you can't reducecomplexity enough to where you
want to keep doing it, then youprobably don't give a fuck about
it.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, oh, I like that .
Speaker 2 (06:30):
You know that's fantastic, but that's what I
realized with even the focuscast videos too many in.
You know, before we were tryingto do well, we went from the
iPhones.
Yeah.
Then we bought the studio gearand it's like too many angles.
Yeah, four cameras and I'msitting there spending time
cutting between our faces.
You know what's spit there.
We had an hour long episode andI'm cutting between.
(06:51):
It's been a half day on.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
And this is an audio, mostlyaudio forward format, so why the
fuck are we spending so muchtime so?
Anyway, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So the lesson there is reduce complexity honestly,
yeah, reduce it to the point towhere you're fine continuing.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
That's good Damn.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Look at that.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
What else, bro, Um 2023.
Where's some big milestones foryou this year?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, I think, overall health, yeah, feeling
healthy, that's nice.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm not bad in thebeginning, but, um, I don't know
, my body feels better in mythirties than it did in my
twenties, so it's reaching thosekind of stages.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
What are some of the big highlights?
That has led to feeling better.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Probably mountain biking a shit load.
We mount back a lot.
You know consistent stretching.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, getting tips and tricks from our massage guru
, what is the first year in 10years that you haven't spent
Traveling?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
You've spent the most time in your life in a car,
true.
Actually, I do spend a lot oftime in the car, though, driving
to the office.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, but that's one hour a day, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Versus potentially four to six hours a day doing
field claims.
Yeah yeah, after driving fortwo days.
So more activity, more physicalactivity.
Yeah yeah, just learning too.
It's trying to stay nimble.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, we rode a lot.
Yeah, we rode a lot this summer.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, we did, and we're still riding bro.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah.
After you get your tire After Iget a new wheel for my bike.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
You took some risks this year.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, you mean this.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Kind of detached from .
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You mean this whole thing?
Yeah, yeah.
So when I was an independentappraiser for like 10 years and
then this is the first year,basically I went to one storm,
worked for like what three weeks.
Yeah.
And then the rest.
We've been just in the officelearning, trying to figure it
out.
Yeah.
So learning shitloads of skills?
(09:09):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Writing notes yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Writing, podcast, video editing.
Like I said, demystifying a lotof like the digital stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Because I mean, I grew up, we grew up with the
internet.
It was kind of like firststarting yeah, so like for me
making videos and stuff, I justwasn't into it, yeah, when it
was happening.
So now I felt like it felt likea lot.
Yeah.
Until we just started diving inand doing it and now editing
the forerunner gunner videos,definitely leveled up Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Not that I'm like some insane you know, editor but
Well, your exponential growthcurve from last year this year.
Last year you didn't edit, yeah, and this year you do a lot of
editing.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
So I mean Last year was just like chop the front of
it off and the back of the videooff and add music.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
So it's like J cuts and adjustment layers and 20
layers coloring music.
All adjusted and fades.
You know everything likelooking at all the details, yeah
, so.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
That's awesome.
What's the goal next year?
What's the big thing?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah Next year.
Hard to say, I think that'sawesome.
Want to go inward more?
Yeah, and find out what makesthe most sense.
Yeah, you know, like, wheredoes it, where does it all lead?
You know what's the big, what'sthe point of what's the big,
what's the fucking point, kindof question.
Yeah you know Not that I haveto figure it out next year.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
But it's a lesson, some inner Introspective,
spiritual, yeah, yeah, yeah, soit's like where do I?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
where do I see myself like later?
Mm-hmm you know it's notediting.
I'm glad I have the skill yeahyou know, but it's like
eventually you and I are gonnastep out of all of the, the
mundane stuff.
Yeah, completely yeah so it'swhat is the bigger, the bigger
sphere.
Yeah and then you know I Likehelping people incorporating
(11:19):
some of that kind of stuff.
It will be nice to start makingmore money.
Yeah so I could do more shitlike that, maybe not full on
humanitarian, fly around theworld stuff, but I'll meet
somewhere in the middle.
Yeah you know some volunteeringtype things, yeah.
So I'm gonna incorporate someof that kind of shit and then,
yeah, I don't know If you couldvolunteer somewhere.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Where would you volunteer?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
It's a good question.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
How do you want to help people?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
That's what I'm trying to go in word and figure
out, like what is, what are myskills lead to the most impact?
Yeah, you know, make the mostsense.
That makes sense.
Like I'm not gonna, probablyI'm not gonna try and start.
I Don't think.
Maybe never say never, right.
But being like a acupuncturistwhere they study for 25 years of
, like, the meridians and the,everything you have to do
(12:10):
through the chi flow and youknow the traditional Chinese
medicine, it feels a little lateto start you know I'm saying
yeah, so it's finding what makesthe most sense, yeah, yeah, but
yeah, and started some martialarts this year, nice.
This is also part of that kindof more of that Rigidity like
(12:34):
building that, that Sturdinessmentally mm-hmm.
So I had nothing shakes you off.
Yeah, realizing Basically youcan do, you can accomplish a
shitload.
Our biggest enemy is ourselves.
We get in our own ways thatkind of thing.
So yeah, discipline.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, our perceived biggest enemy is this is pretty
timely, but terrorist attacksShark attacks definitely inemic
attacks a lot of people worriedabout shark attacks, especially
in Kansas.
But the real enemy is ourself.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, yeah, I mean the fear.
We're going on a whole thingnow, the fear instilled by these
events and the government andthe media.
Yeah.
Give them the power to controlyou, but if everyone let it all
go, they wouldn't have any power.
Yeah it's just that simple.
It's really not thatcomplicated.
(13:34):
Yeah, and you know it's that.
The process is not necessarilycomplicated, but putting it into
action is different, becausepeople have programs and, yeah,
deprogramming isn't easy.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Deprogramming is not easy, but the reality of the
need to deprogram is pretty.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, once you see it's simple and Concept, yeah,
difficult in action, yeah, deep.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
so continue deprogramming.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I want to deprogram myself.
Yeah basically, as far as I can, yeah, to where you reach that
higher level where you realizeanything's possible for yourself
.
Yeah, so Nice, without question.
But also knowing what it is youwant to create, understanding
they, not creating what societytells you to, the yachts and the
(14:21):
mansions and all that dumb shit.
Yeah, what do you actually wantto create on the deepest level
for yourself?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah not Just like I want to be rich and I want, you
know, I want a bunch of bitches,that kind of thing yeah, it's
interesting, though, even thoughit's a little bit of a tangent,
but it's like what if theexistence is not finding the one
(14:52):
thing?
No, no, yeah, just being justexisting, just Just Accepting
whatever you have today and cangive today is enough.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
But also at the same time.
No, you're absolutely right.
Yeah, doing what we can today,but also Working, doing the
inner work.
Yeah, I Think it's like.
It's like doing it doesn't haveto be one thing.
I'm not saying.
There's only one thing in lifethat will make me happy.
Yeah, not like that.
But yeah, working hard, livingin the today but, also thinking
(15:30):
about when do?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I want to go right whatever, I don't know yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I'm sure like that.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I dig it, man, but no , you're right, it's not one
thing.
You know we don't have onething.
We have, we have it's.
You can do basically whateveryou want.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, there's a lot of options, fortunately.
Fortunately, yeah, we live in aCurrently.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, there's some things make position where some
things make less sense Thanothers, like I don't want to
work on Wall Street in New YorkCity personally.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I know, that.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, some people may want that and that's fine,
whatever.
Yeah so anyway.
So it's funny, I'm not.
I don't have big like Likeprofessional goals really.
Yeah, it's just kind of Keepgrowing, keep learning, and then
it'll kind of sort itself out.
Yeah as it's happening, yeah,day to day.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
D program.
D program re reprogram.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
D program and then take on a different program.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, D program.
The exterior influence negativeinfluences.
Yeah to make space for Existingnew creation present.
Yeah, and then giving the bestyou can with what you have in
the present moment, exactlyaccepting where that takes you.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, see, there we go, summed up quite nicely, damn
.
I wish I could do that.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I Could say it no, it's similar.
It's similar.
It's similar to where this yearhas been for me.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, I mean you've had a lot of growing, you've got
some actual professional goals.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, it's funny and that's kind of the biggest
struggle, but we'll lead up tothat, right?
Yeah, so now we're shifting.
Yeah, so big thing for me thisyear was 2023 started therapy,
totally moved past 30 years ofdisassociation.
Yeah, 100% healed that.
So you've had a transformativeyear, like an Absolute, insane
(17:30):
transformative year.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah we're yeah, sorry yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
So big things accomplished this year.
Number one creating theenvironment that I am.
Probably it's probably beenprofessionally, even though I
haven't made a ton of money thisyear I'm living off the money I
made last year in the exit butas far as my contribution and
Create an environment, doingwhat I love, like, there's
(17:58):
probably only a couple ofprojects that I worked on this
year that were mildly Monday orannoying, yeah, but everything
I've done this year has beenlike what I want to do, yeah,
which is, you know that's a giftand I definitely received that
as a gift.
But yeah, the biggest milestoneobviously is just breaking
(18:19):
through 40 years of likebuilding calluses around trauma
and breaking that shit up.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Like I mean through specifically on the therapy
train.
Like I thought God left me toSatan subconsciously.
I thought I was cursedsubconsciously.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
It's funny he's saying it out loud, huh.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, I thought I was , I thought we were general, I
thought I was generationallycursed.
I really couldn't see past afoot in front of me because of
the fog and the cloud that Ilived in every day and all
that's gone.
Now there's a lot of new thingsto learn.
Yeah, because I've I wasactually talking about that in
(19:13):
the therapy session this morningthat I had.
But, like these strings thatwere attached to these, these
whatever events that, thesenarratives that I established
from the age of three, now thatI'm detached from those, I'm
like floating.
So now it's like, now let'sfigure out where to reattach,
right.
It's like, once you de-programwhere, what's next?
(19:33):
You know, I, the desire for my,let's see, the big phrase was
my existence is independent frommy father's desire for me to
exist.
So, like the clean break, as myfather is his own being and I
am my own being that happenedthis year.
It's fucking wild.
Then yeah, physically, I mean,we did 28 miles on the bike and
(20:02):
I didn't want to die.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, I actually enjoyed it.
Yeah, you got to just enjoy anice ride, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
So, like I think, from a physical standpoint, with
this constant endurance andthat kind of stuff, I feel
pretty good.
My sleep has for years wasreally really bad and it comes
and goes, but this year I'veprobably slept better over the
course of a year.
I still have my you know acouple of times where I don't
(20:29):
sleep well, but this year I'veprobably slept better than I
have in decades.
I've been more present, with myfamily Coming out of the fog.
My presence with my wife and myfamily has probably been
stronger than ever.
When I'm with my kids and withmy wife, I'm with my kids and
I'm with my wife.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Right, You're not stuck in a future unknown.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Oh yeah.
And that was the biggest breakof disassociation was just low
level anxiety, constantly fear,and I wasn't doing enough today
to prepare for the future andjust kind of realizing the
future doesn't exist and thatcomes back every once in a while
, but it's not the norm now.
Yes, it's the exception.
Yeah, it's the exception, a badexception.
But it is one of those, yeah, sothat's been absolutely fucking
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phenomenal.
It's amazing this podcastdropping an episode every week
yeah, going on two years now Inmy life.
I've started and stopped a lotof things just because my brain
constantly thinks, oh, thiswould be cool, what if we tried
this?
This is a cool idea.
That stuff never stops.
I don't really want it to stop.
(21:40):
I like that about myself, butfor me personally, getting into
the 40s is like well, if there'smore things I haven't done,
then it becomes a burden Becauselike, oh, there's a cool idea
I'll never do so.
This year has been really justexecuting a lot of the things
(22:04):
that I've wanted to do for along time.
I've got a YouTube series thatI started.
I even still have the videoslike 10 years ago.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
And so consistently producing content and some of it
was great and some of it wasgood and some of it was we're
just kind of being lazy, butconsistently producing a piece
of content every single week fortwo years is something I've
never done before Same and itfeels really fucking good.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Obviously, yeah, I've never done that yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Big accomplishment.
Yeah, there's some financialgoals obviously coming out of
the exit last year that we hit.
Having the goal before the exitwas a year's worth of savings,
so fortunately we're past that.
But starting to build up thekids, we got the kids wills and
(22:55):
trust and we've got all thestuff completely figured out and
legitimized, legalized and allthat shit for our death plan.
Yeah, so we're prepared to dieGreat, which is great.
So got all that done.
Yeah, so that's a recap.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Damn bro.
Yeah, we were working onourselves this year too.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, big time.
Both of us in our own way, Iwould say, for goals for next
year.
It's funny because now I'm inthis place of.
I've always been a planner,always, excuse me, I've always
had a detailed plan and I don'tknow if that was good.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I mean, how many of those are you doing now?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Well, it's like I have plans and I'm actively
pursuing them, yeah, but at thesame time, it's like I don't
know.
I think the biggest lesson fromthis year is do what you can
with what you have today.
And this, for me, I'll sayobnoxious, but because, again,
(24:14):
my brain is a planning brain andI can go down to every single
detail of a plan that's two orthree years from now, but it's
like I have plans for next year.
I have things that I want toaccomplish, but a lot of it is
like why next year?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Like we're working on the shoe company.
Well, we're working on it, sowe're waiting for the fact,
we're waiting on a couple ofmilestone moments and then we're
going to launch the shoe brand.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, like, why is there have to be a date where
launch is no matter what?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, it's like when we're ready to launch, then
we'll decide the best next timeto launch Is it?
The shoes will be ready Rightnow?
We've got Christmas.
It's a little bit of a like youdon't want to launch, you got
to be careful around launchingsomething new around holidays.
You got to be strategic.
Of course, we don't want tosell shoes before Christmas and
then deliver after Christmas, sothat may cause us to not drop
(25:10):
this year.
If we can't do it in time, wemay drop first of next year.
But it's like for me it's likeI've got.
There was a time period when wewere planning on dropping and
then we're going back and forthwith a factor we're making a
premium shoe, so there's a lotof things included in this, and
then a couple of weeks went by.
A couple of weeks went by andit's like, ok, cool.
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And then there was a momentwhere I got really frustrated.
But then I'm like, emotionallyand mentally, I have to remind
myself that all I can do is whatI can control.
And then, when the shoes areready to launch, when we have a
finished sample, then we can belike OK, cool.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Now what's our?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
launch plan yeah, and until we have that.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Can't have expectations on a date.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I don't want to.
Yeah, it's like constantlychanging the date versus just
being like fuck it, Like whenthe shoes are ready to launch,
we'll set the date.
Yeah, you know, boom, it iswhat it is.
And for me it's like askingmyself regardless of what
happens in life, are you goingto launch this footwear company?
And I feel like, the answer isyes.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Like it doesn't have to be on Q4.
You know, October 24.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
So it's like and I feel like that attitude is a
better attitude approach,especially as an entrepreneur.
It's like I will launch afootwear brand.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
It's happening, no matter what.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yes, and we will turn that footwear brand into a
lifestyle brand.
Yeah, that will happen and I'llbe glad to work on that, no
matter how much energy it takesor how hard it is.
Till I die, period, there yougo, so it does nothing else
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matters.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
All I can do is knowing that truth.
All I can do is what I can do.
What can I do today?
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Is there any?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
task that's outstanding that I need to get
done today.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Right, you can't make a flooded factory replace their
equipment faster.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
No.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Unless you have special powers I don't know
about.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
And I don't, I do not so you know I can't rub a genie
genie in a bottle.
Come, come, come again.
That's all I can think aboutanyway.
No, I don't have that.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
So yeah, there's exogenous factors.
Yeah.
And if everyone hasexpectations on a certain date
for their launches and shit youcan use it as kind of a
reference to get things done,but not as a if this doesn't
happen, I'm a worthless piece ofshit and this is all failing.
Yeah, and I'm quitting.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, and it's like I haven't had a day where there
was so many things I had toaccomplish across a different
business that I'm a part of towhere I couldn't get it all done
in a day at least what I couldcontribute.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
So it's like, until that happens, it's a different
problem.
It's like, okay, well, if Iwork on this, I'm not gonna work
on that, so which one should Iwork on?
Yeah, but right now it's likethat's not an issue, that's
what's nice to have in teammembers.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I know that are really awesome.
So back to goals for next year.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
The shoe company has Like I want to lose about 20
pounds and the reason for meit's 20 pounds because I know
it's like it's more about howyou feel than it is weight, but
I know how I feel when I'm about15 or 20 pounds.
Well, actually that goal for meis unique because I've lost
some weight this year.
I've leaned up a little bitthis year, just with all the
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riding and things that we'redoing and just not like eating
an entire bag of chips everynight before I go to bed, like I
did like pretty much everynight of my life pre eight
months ago, and then just beingaround you.
I eat healthier and I eatbetter because you're very
conscious of what you put inyour body.
So that's just a naturalproximity thing.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
But it's like, why would that be a goal for next
year?
It's like when I'm ready tofast for seven days and pick up
a exercise routine, you can dothat tomorrow.
I can do that tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
So, it's like, yeah, the whole year thing or whatever
.
I guess they're symbolic.
Yeah.
Whatever, maybe it makes moresense to fast in winter because
it's kind of more chill and daysare shorter.
Maybe you're not working ashard.
Yeah, not sweating as much.
But since we live in America,where everyone works all year
anyway and we're always in warmclimates.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
We don't really experience winter like people
did a hundred years ago, exactlyso.
So the only time we experiencedwinter is when we run to the
car and turn on our heated seats.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
I mean, I used to have an off season.
Yeah.
And yeah, I would chill inwinter.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah.
And so you'd probably, you'dprobably gain 10, 20 pounds in
the winter and then lose it inthe summer every year.
Of course I don't knowtraveling.
It's hard to maintain some thatshouldn't be traveling.
But yeah so, anyway, it's likefor me.
It's like, you know, looking atnext year, and anytime I start
thinking about next year's goals, that negative anxiety kind of
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comes up and it's like, okay,well, I want to accomplish this.
Well, why do I want toaccomplish that?
What's the meaning behind that?
What does that do for me?
You know, financial goals,physical goals, all that kind of
stuff.
It's like sure, I would like tohave a million dollars each for
my kids, in their trust, tohave some type of managed
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lifestyle if I died or if Ibecame unable to work.
Well, I can't.
I mean, I can go play thelottery, but the only thing I
can really do towards that goalis what I'm doing now which is
working on launching businesses.
Yep, I've invested in certainthings at the right time, so
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it's just like those things maygrow.
Yeah, I mean, I can spend lessmoney today.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
True, we did get a what a $7 thing of soup we did,
so you spent $7 on lunch.
Yeah, well, you bought me lunch, so you spent $18 on lunch.
Yeah, for two people.
Yeah.
Dang bro.
But again like like, yeah, youcould spend less money, but you
don't even spend that much money.
Let's be real.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, I mean I've.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I've.
In the scheme of like a lot ofpeople.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I mean I got.
I was very fortunate to get awindfall last year and we're
still in our 1200 square foothome that looks like 1975.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
And we're okay with that.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, it's a cool house.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah, it's a nice house.
I like your house Like it'sjust, it's great.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
It is what it is.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah, it feels homey and I wanted to redo the
detached garage so we'd have aplace.
But we have a place now, youknow, and this place, the studio
that we're in right now iswe're around a bunch of cool
people.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
So it's like I don't really need that.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
So, anyway, it's funny.
It's like thinking about nextyear's goals and it's just like,
well, what's, what's the goalfor today?
I know where I'm going.
Yeah, you know I'm going.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, you're going.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I love to work.
Yeah, you're going to be fine,I'm going to continue to work.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, you like working.
Yeah, you will not have toworry about money.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, I mean a year where I technically could have
taken the year off and notworked at all and then just got
another job next year.
And now you're laying down thefoundation and I've been working
all year.
Yeah, because I mean work's fun, honestly, and even when I had
jobs, I, if I wasn't aroundpeople I didn't like or I didn't
like the job, I would just quit.
Yeah, you know, I've beenfortunate, like the last five
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years I spent at Rip.
It like it was fun.
I mean, it was hard times, ofcourse, and there's always
frustrations, but labor isn'tit's not called labor because
it's like, you know, vacation.
But but I love the people and Ilove the work.
And this year I love the peopleand I love the work.
So, yeah, even around annoyingpeople, then it's just a
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challenge.
Every day is a challenge tomake them laugh.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
So it was like a family traditions yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Actually, we had a blast at family traditions.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I bet.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
We fucking.
I bet A bunch of teenagersworking at a family restaurant.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Oh yeah, imagine when I worked in Atlanta Bread
Company with all of my friends,and one of our friends was the
manager, natalie.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
We used to get high, yeah, and make a steak, mashed
potatoes and gravy and cheesesandwich on Texas toast.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
That's the most Southern stoner shit I've ever
heard.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
That shit was gnarly bro, but anyway.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I watched the guy make when I worked at Zaxby's.
I was 16 years old.
I watched the guy roll achicken tender and a piece of
bread with a piece of cheese init, dipped it in batter and
fried the whole thing Deep friedbread with chicken in the
middle.
And I mean, you know, as a 16year old who's hungry, working
on his shift, that was probablypretty dynamite.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
It was pretty good, but that is like disgusting.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Let's be real Also.
Just drink the fat.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Drink the fuck, drink fryer oil, yeah, so anyway, I
mean, if I'm being honest, somegoals are really.
It's just launching thesecontent ideas.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
You know.
I mean there's goals forclubhouse, but again we're kind
of in a steady groove.
We know what we want toaccomplish.
We are going to demystify themusic industry.
Big goal, big vision.
We're going to build thecreator middle class.
We're going to redistributewealth from the you know 1% of
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musicians back to the middleclass musicians.
We're going to do that.
And so now and we know to thebest of our knowledge, how we're
going to approach doing that sonow it's just executing yeah.
What's the net?
You know what can we work on.
Today Got a meeting at fouro'clock about it.
So it's like, it's like for me,once the vision is set and it
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has purpose and meaning, andthen it's just the steady, and
then you can just take all thepressure off.
You know, gotta have this bythis time.
This has that.
But obviously we gotta feed ourfamilies, we gotta pay the
bills based on our current, youknow, cultural norms and economy
and how things work.
So obviously there's thatpressure associated with revenue
(35:35):
generation versus just, youknow, purely doing one
passionate regardless of revenue.
But but I mean, what's?
What's the famous producer whoworked with with the crazy hair?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Mike Rubin.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, I just saw a clip the other day and he's just
like as a musician.
If you deeply love what youproduce and you feel it's good,
that high vibration and energythat you project when you're
delivering, that art is whatpeople enjoy, versus worrying
(36:09):
about what people like and thenforcing yourself into that yeah,
cause that's low vibration.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I just make it.
Make what you want yeah, andmake it for you, yeah.
Make it for you, Not for them.
And if it brings you cause, ifit's if you make it for other
people.
Where's the fulfillment in that?
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Yeah, and there's a lot of, if you're making art for
other people.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
I mean, I guess I don't fucking know.
I'd always thought I justfigured you, just make it for
yourself.
Yeah.
Yeah, because if you worryabout how other people want it
to be, then how do you everfinish?
You could spend 10 years on onesong.
Yeah.
Like.
Well, what if they don't likethis?
Chorus, yeah what about thispiano part.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
And it's like, even with a focus cast with
Forerunner Gunner, like surethere's, like you know, we're
100 episodes in and next episodewe're going to break down our
numbers and how many followerswe have and growth and all that
kind of stuff.
But like even that, it's likesure there's the pressure of,
you know, more following becausethen you can monetize and then
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you can generate revenue andthen that just funds you keep
doing it.
But some of the some of thestuff that for me personally, a
lot of the pressure, is likethis piece of art.
I see where it could be better.
So I want it to be better, Iwant to be more satisfied with
the product.
You know, forerunner Gunner, Igo back and watch our adventure
(37:35):
videos for fun.
I go back and listen to ourepisodes ourselves and I'm like,
oh fuck, I forgot we eventalked about that and I relearn
it for fun and it brings me joy.
Yeah, you know and so, like youknow, obviously, if you and I
both, for some reason, end upgetting full time jobs and our W
(37:58):
twos and we're not doing thisevery day we're still going to
go on adventures.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
We got the shit to record it.
Yeah, we'll still record it.
It'll just be edited in nightJust edit it Exactly Instead of
editing during the day Exactly.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Like we did the focus cast last year?
Yeah, I was editing.
Was it when I had like Sundaysoff or after work?
Yeah.
I was cutting down social clubs.
You know.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
So it's like if it doesn't bring us joy anymore,
stop doing it.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
But I liked, when you said like the consistency, to
like doing something.
A hundred episodes.
Yeah.
Even if nothing happens, I haveno attachments.
Yeah.
It's the fact that we did ahundred episodes and one every
week and stuck with it.
If you can do that and like,yeah, with the following that we
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have, which is not nothing, butit's not amazing.
You know, that's just sayingthat's almost like a straight up
willpower grit kind of thing.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Because like a job is like, you have to get a job to
make money to pay the bills.
But we, for a hundred episodes,didn't have to do this.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
We chose to do it and we stuck with it one episode
every week for two years Withoutattachments to how much it grew
.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, and honestly, we did this with very little
positive reinforcement fromanyone outside you and me.
We've got a few super fans.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
But like it's not, like we're getting emails like
oh man, you guys are great,thank you for doing this Like
that shit doesn't.
It doesn't happen yet.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
No but.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
But we stuck with it and you're right, that's kind of
that like that willpower, andit's kind of like it's like the
cold showers, in my opinion.
This podcast is like the coldshowers.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
So if you can force your body to shock itself for
three to five minutes every timeyou take a shower, then you can
really do anything.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
That's what I went to remember that episode.
I was like, if you can take acold shower, you can handle
divorce, even though I've neverbeen in one.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
But the cold that's yeah if you do something
difficult.
That's why.
I like starting the day with acold shower because it's
difficult.
It makes all the other shiteasier.
Yeah, you got three minutes,three minutes.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
It's the rest of your day easier.
Sometimes those three minuteshas a long ass.
Three minutes.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
The first 30 seconds is always shocking but I tell
you what it brings you back intothat present moment.
You're not thinking aboutfuture past, you're not thinking
about any other shit.
Think about, I think, what iswrong with you.
That is the moment.
Yeah, I think about how fuckingtwisted you are.
No, that's the beautiful thingabout it you can't be anxious or
depressed or think about thefuture or the past when you're
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in a cold shower.
You are only thinking about thecold shower.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
And that's the same thing for me for mountain biking
.
That's why, mountain biking,when we just got back from cold
water, which is a mountain inAlabama and it was, I think we
did like 22, 24 miles that dayand there was a climb that was,
like you know, a good 800 feet,900 feet, yeah, straight up
basically.
And it was just and it waspretty long.
I mean it was a good mile, halfmile or mile and a half,
(41:20):
whatever felt long, but like youjust keep going, you just keep
going and your body is just likelike two years ago.
That would have wrecked us.
Oh yeah, I would have hoppedoff the bike, I would have sat.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
But now you just go, you just go and you keep going.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
You just pedal and even if you go into granny gear
and go slow, but you just don'tstop.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
You're not stopping and it's like fighting past that
willpower, or the willpower tofight past the body, just like
what in the absolute hell areyou doing?
Speaker 2 (41:52):
It's good.
That's.
That's another reason I startedmartial arts.
Take it to the next level, yeah, like that, that, um, what's
the fucking word?
I'm talking, I'm thinking of.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Great willpower.
Yeah, it's like unbreakable.
You've never done 40 pushups ina row and you're on like 48 and
you're like shaking andinstructors like keep going.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Basically.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
And you keep going and you keep going.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
You go until your muscles can't do it, yeah, and
then you keep going, so um yeah,I think those us incorporating
more of those things is makingjust getting through.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
You know, I mean it's 2023, october.
Um, you know, it looks likewe're staring down a world war.
You know, there's floods,there's earthquakes, there's
wars.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Yeah, it's all fear.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
but there's all kinds of stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
You know we're at $33 trillion in debt.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Fear.
Yeah, that's all.
Fear, state shit and it's likebut but.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Among all of that, how are we going to stay focused
?
And and if the world's heretomorrow?
Speaker 2 (43:11):
you have to work on yourself keep going.
Yeah, work hard on whateveryou're doing and still go inward
.
Do the do the inner work aswell.
Yeah, that's a piece.
Yeah, you know I'm going tolean a little more on it.
That you know I plan on leaningmore into it.
Yeah.
That, yeah, that's a piece thateveryone should be.
Yeah.
(43:31):
I mean and I'm not trying torip on the people who's still
like let's go out to the barsand let's do all this shit, and
they're like 40s and 50s.
You've seen them.
Yeah.
But does that shit not getboring After a while?
Going to the bar after workevery day you're fucking 55
years old Talking about nothing,talking about how much your job
(43:53):
sucks yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
You're not going to do anything about it.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah, I can't be that .
Yeah, I absolutely refuse to bestuck.
Yeah, like that I it's just notan option.
Yeah.
Yeah, I can't imagine yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, doing
that well, it's like part, partof the life bitching, bitching
bitching about it and not doinganything.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Yeah, what I say it's people go to work and bitch
about their home and go home andbitch about their work yeah.
I'm just like just fucking killyourself.
Don't kill yourself, go help.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
But I'm just saying, like, what's the point of?
Speaker 1 (44:25):
living.
Yeah, if you're not gonna doanything about it.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah, they don't talk about it.
Yeah, that's what it is.
If I have something that I'mlike I I've there's been things
where I'm like man, I just don'ttalk about it, even though,
like I'm, I'm not doing it I'm.
If I'm not doing anything aboutit, I'm not gonna complain
about it yeah, so it makes sense.
Yes, yes, because it's justwhatever yeah going inward.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yeah, I think these, the the forerunner gunner trips
too, is like I think part of.
I can't speak for women and Ireally can't speak for men, I
can speak for myself, but Iassume, based on what I know to
be true, about men, adventureand success, like and I'm not
talking like our, our society'sview of success.
(45:10):
I'm just talking about like thesmall wins.
Right, because I was listeningto this podcast about
testosterone and how when we fixsomething, our testosterone
actually goes up.
Yeah, when we accomplishsomething We've never done, our
testosterone goes up and part ofour chemical makeup is
maintaining a high level oftestosterone.
So it's just built in oursystems and mechanics and
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chemistry to seek outopportunities to maintain a
level of testosterone.
And when we do the forerunnergunner trips, the reason I love
Our format so much is becauseevery time we do a trip, we go
somewhere We've never beenbefore.
We ride a trail We've neverridden before, you know.
We stay at a campsite We'venever been before.
Yeah, we drive on overlandingtrails We've never been on
(45:55):
before, yeah, and so it's likethere's the adventure aspect and
so for me, as a 41 year old, IFeel like, because I've always
said I'm a nomad by spirit, butI've lived in the same house in
the same county.
Mm-hmm you know, but we adoptedkids.
Yeah, you've got a family.
Those kids have special needs.
Well, I'm just saying like,even though I stay in the same
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place, I live a prettyadventurous life.
Yeah, I'm an entrepreneur.
Kids with special needs,adopted kids, change career
paths completely.
Yeah, taking risks, quit jobs,started jobs, you know, invested
in things.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Yeah, and you could have just stayed home the whole
time and had the same job.
Yeah yeah, and you could, andif anyone tried to get you out
of the house you'd be like Idon't know, I can't do it.
Yeah, I'm too busy too busy.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
So I think setting up these or or setting up a life
in which we constantly haveadventure yeah, you know,
eventually we're gonna hit everypark in the southeast and then
we'll have to start driving more.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
Yeah, I hit driving.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
But it is what it is, yeah, but anyway, I think
that's really helped to from thepsyche standpoint.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Well, and look at Chad.
Yeah we were on this last tripand Chad, one of the guys we
ride with, he's like what do yousay?
Speaker 1 (47:10):
This is the best weekend I've had in a decade.
Boom, that's fucking.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
In almost cried when I heard that and for those
listening, this was not anexpensive weekend.
It's a fucking thirty dollarcampsite for two nights.
Yeah, split between four people, it's food and some food and
some snacks for when you'remountain biking.
That's it.
That's it in gas.
Yeah, maybe a hundred buckseach this isn't flying the
(47:39):
fucking now you know yeah.
Maui, yeah, and staying in aresort for $1,200 a day yeah,
this is a trip grand totalbetween all of us that probably
only cost.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yeah, and it was an hour and a half drive, our nap
drive.
There's only an hour and a halfdrive and about a hundred bucks
each, and we had, to Chad'squote, one of the best weekends
in a decade.
That's a man.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
That's the the kind of the mantra for runner gunner
is to make people want to go onan adventure.
Yeah.
That's the mission statementfor me.
I think you too, right.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah, and we went overlanding and he took his
two-wheel-drive Highlander.
Yeah he didn't have a newforerunner like us, he took that
bitch out and we took it as wepushed it as far as we could.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
That's right and it was awesome.
Yeah, so you know it's easy toget stuck.
Yeah, in the minutia.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
I don't have an $8,000 mountain bike.
I don't either.
I wrote on a trail thatprobably could have used one.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yeah, I mean, my bike was a couple grand like Four
years ago.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Yeah and I got it on sale and we don't have this
souped up, everything on ourforerunners.
No, we have what we have wedon't have an RV for a camp.
You know we got some tents andhonestly we have more shit than
most people.
I know we got a ball mass butstill like we don't have a lot
of stuff.
But we still went out and hadan absolute epic adventure.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Yeah, and it was.
It's having people to go withbecause Chad would Chad's not
gonna do it by himself.
Yeah, he's not gonna be thesame experience.
He's not gonna plan cold waterby himself.
Yeah.
So sometimes you need acatalyst.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Well, there's um that reminds me that quote that I
love in into the wild, where heexperienced something great.
And he looked around no one'saround, and he said joy is
experienced when joy is shared.
Mmm, yeah, so having a goodsquad.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Yeah, I don't think humans are meant to be alone
either.
No, that's a whole nother topicof division and lone wolf
narrative.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Well, it goes back to why 2023 was so great for me
working with you.
Yeah like we work well together.
Yeah like we brainstorm alltogether.
Yeah, like you know, youchallenge me, I challenge you.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Yeah like yeah, we challenge you cuz we have.
We just are different.
Yeah and lately as far asapproaches.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Yeah, you know, I like to press in music.
You like happy music?
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yeah, obviously similar similar beliefs and
foundations you know, yeah, asfar as how I feel about
government and Life in general,and positive positivity, yeah,
obviously Foundational.
A lot in common but at the sametime, a lot enough is different
to learn from each other.
Yeah, yeah, brian likesdepressing ass music.
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I don't.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
So if you hear any song with minors, it's usually
me inspired.
If you're song with seven sinyeah diminished.
It's Jonathan's Diminishednines.
What's?
Speaker 2 (50:42):
that.
What's your favorite chord?
Oh, it's a minor.
It's minor seven at nine.
Yeah, it's so fucking good.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
I'm just the yeah, I love.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
I love major sevens, minor sevens, minor seven at
nine is.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Mine is minor seven minor, minor at sad minor, add
extra minor extra side of minor.
Yeah, so anyway, but yeah, Imean.
So, yeah, I mean next year.
It's like it's there's a pieceof me that has anxiety Around,
but then there's a piece of methat's just like it's the.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
You know, the inflation sucks.
Let's be real.
Yeah it eats into your nest egg.
Yeah, but plations a killer.
You know it is what it is.
Yeah you know, we have thingswe can fall back on if we have
to, which is great.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah so and honestly it's like next year is next year
.
I sure is next year like Rightnow we get to have a bowl of
soup on a nice chill day outsidein the Sun.
Yeah, and come back and recorda couple episodes.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Fuck yeah yeah, sweet .
So go buy our patented?
I'm just kidding.
Yeah, we don't have any of that.
I.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
Goal script.
Yeah, all right.
Well, that was 52 minutes.
We should stop talking andwe're out.
Thank you for listening to thefocus cast, go to youtubecom,
slash the focus, cast and slap.
Speaker 4 (52:13):
That's a button head to the focus cast.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Stop, and I'm sure you want to hear next go forth
and be focused as boy.
So we're coming to the end of the year, yep, coming
to episode 100.
You know what that means, yeah,what that means.
A little bit of a recap.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Oh, recap.
Except this time we're notwasted on Moonshine like our
last recap.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, so when we rounded out last year around
episode 50, we just did somerecaps and some some progress
episodes, and so we're going todo the same thing.
This should be episode 98.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah, kind of talk about the podcast experience.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
So this episode we're going to talk about personal
and professional goals what weaccomplished this year.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Talking about our podcast experience?
Not yet.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Next episode Got you and we're going to talk about
some goals for 2024.
And the next episode we'll talkabout a little recap on the
focus cast some numbers, somemetrics, what we've learned, and
then episode 100, we willreveal what our next phase
strategy is for the focus cast.
So this episode may inspire youto go ahead and start some
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professional goals, review yourprogress for the year, oh and
set some goals for the nextphase, whatever that is year,
month, quarter, AbsolutelyDecade.
So let's dig in.
Let's dig in.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Because you can't measure.
If you don't, what is itMeasure?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
what matters.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Jonathan Noel and I'm Brian Noel.
This is the focus cast when wehelp you remove distractions,
increase focus.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
You can live a life with Intentions, intentions.
So personal yeah firstintentions, oh man, personal and
professional goals.
So what do you feel like youaccomplished this year, jonathan
?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Let's see 2023, at the beginning of the year, let's
see, we pretty much just gotthe space, yep.
So I definitely writing all themusic was a big growing
learning experience for all ofour channels.
So I've been a musician.
We've mentioned this before,but I had not written songs for
(02:16):
YouTube channels.
That was new.
Yeah.
So you know that was fun, itwas a challenge.
You know just hopped in andlike, hey, let's just once we
want something with the reggaevibe and I'm like, okay, you
know, shit like that, orwhatever funk.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, I remember watching you.
So we got for the studio, wegot Logic, we got a new Mac we
got the full native instrumentspack.
Yep.
Universal audio pack.
And I remember watching youwhen you first started Getting
into the Apple universe.
The Apple verse yeah first youhad to get used to Apple.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, every 45 seconds.
I was about to raise a snap.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
So the question is, now that you know what you know,
would you stay Apple or wouldyou stay PC if you had to pick
one?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I like Apple.
Yeah, you know, I like sayingApple Pretty much.
I like PC for certain things.
I mean, like what?
Like getting viruses.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Wow, you sound like every other guy every other
Apple fanboy.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
We all don't shoot good viruses every 45 minutes.
The shit's expensive.
I mean you can buildtechnically a more powerful
computer.
Yeah, if you build yourself forthe money.
Yeah.
That's not even a question.
Yeah.
That's a fact.
Yeah.
So you can have whatever 60gigs of RAM or whatever 64 and
insane processing power for thesame money.
(03:36):
Yeah so, but Apple, when youhave all your stuff and you're
creating things, why not?
Why not?
I think it's great.
I like Logic too.
Yeah.
I've never used.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
What's the other Pro?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Tools, so I could probably get used to that.
But yeah.
So now I'm in the Logicverse,but that was a huge learning
experience.
Yeah, I mean, you crush it now,you can crush it Exactly, going
from being just like aguitarist, bass player to
basically a producer.
Yeah.
More or less writing a song,start to finish like for
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specific purposes.
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, because, like for 400 Gunner, you know we'll
go on an adventure and I'll belike bro, I'm thinking this vibe
and you're like cool and youjust go make a song and it's
dope yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yep With everything, yep, trying to write songs that
fit the vibes of the whateverwe're putting out.
Yeah.
All the way from ambientbacking tracks to random tracks
for reviews, just whatever.
Yeah, anything and everything.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I was like bro for our gun and knife cleaning
videos.
I would like a chill lo-fiwhere we hit play on the tape
recorder.
And I even bought an old taperecorder Yep yeah.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Got to set the scene, definitely grew in that way and
just being comfortable withcontent, yeah, straight up.
I was never putting myself outthere that much kind of person.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, you know, your time spent on titles and
captions has reduced.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yep by about 10%.
Well, I'm just saying being onthe internet.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, I think you had like three posts when you
started the year.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Exactly and it pushed me to.
You know it kind of this yeardemystified making videos.
Yeah.
Because it seemed before youwatch people do anything on.
Youtube.
You're like, how the fuck doyou make this?
Yeah, how do you make this.
And it just felt difficult.
Yeah, but learning Adobe justbeing more proficient.
(05:39):
It's been a huge growth yearfor this whole digital age.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
What's your Instagram , johnzilla9?
Yeah, yeah, those base videos,man, they're sick.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
They're pretty sick.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Very nasty.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I don't know if I'll keep them that complicated.
I might reduce the cameraangles.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
And that word all starts, though.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
It starts complex and then just like all right,
what's the minimal.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
That's the big, that's.
You know what I realized, likewhat's the amount we, what's the
amount that you can do to whereyou keep going?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Because if you over complicate the system and you
stop you know, that's a goodprinciple right there.
That's not, then you don't keepgoing.
Yeah, so if you can't reducecomplexity enough to where you
want to keep doing it, then youprobably don't give a fuck about
it.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, oh, I like that .
Speaker 2 (06:30):
You know that's fantastic, but that's what I
realized with even the focuscast videos too many in.
You know, before we were tryingto do well, we went from the
iPhones.
Yeah.
Then we bought the studio gearand it's like too many angles.
Yeah, four cameras and I'msitting there spending time
cutting between our faces.
You know what's spit there.
We had an hour long episode andI'm cutting between.
(06:51):
It's been a half day on.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
And this is an audio, mostlyaudio forward format, so why the
fuck are we spending so muchtime so?
Anyway, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So the lesson there is reduce complexity honestly,
yeah, reduce it to the point towhere you're fine continuing.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
That's good Damn.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Look at that.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
What else, bro, Um 2023.
Where's some big milestones foryou this year?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, I think, overall health, yeah, feeling
healthy, that's nice.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm not bad in thebeginning, but, um, I don't know
, my body feels better in mythirties than it did in my
twenties, so it's reaching thosekind of stages.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
What are some of the big highlights?
That has led to feeling better.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Probably mountain biking a shit load.
We mount back a lot.
You know consistent stretching.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, getting tips and tricks from our massage guru
, what is the first year in 10years that you haven't spent
Traveling?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
You've spent the most time in your life in a car,
true.
Actually, I do spend a lot oftime in the car, though, driving
to the office.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, but that's one hour a day, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Versus potentially four to six hours a day doing
field claims.
Yeah yeah, after driving fortwo days.
So more activity, more physicalactivity.
Yeah yeah, just learning too.
It's trying to stay nimble.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, we rode a lot.
Yeah, we rode a lot this summer.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, we did, and we're still riding bro.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah.
After you get your tire After Iget a new wheel for my bike.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
You took some risks this year.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, you mean this.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Kind of detached from .
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You mean this whole thing?
Yeah, yeah.
So when I was an independentappraiser for like 10 years and
then this is the first year,basically I went to one storm,
worked for like what three weeks.
Yeah.
And then the rest.
We've been just in the officelearning, trying to figure it
out.
Yeah.
So learning shitloads of skills?
(09:09):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Writing notes yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Writing, podcast, video editing.
Like I said, demystifying a lotof like the digital stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Because I mean, I grew up, we grew up with the
internet.
It was kind of like firststarting yeah, so like for me
making videos and stuff, I justwasn't into it, yeah, when it
was happening.
So now I felt like it felt likea lot.
Yeah.
Until we just started diving inand doing it and now editing
the forerunner gunner videos,definitely leveled up Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Not that I'm like some insane you know, editor but
Well, your exponential growthcurve from last year this year.
Last year you didn't edit, yeah, and this year you do a lot of
editing.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
So I mean Last year was just like chop the front of
it off and the back of the videooff and add music.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
So it's like J cuts and adjustment layers and 20
layers coloring music.
All adjusted and fades.
You know everything likelooking at all the details, yeah
, so.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
That's awesome.
What's the goal next year?
What's the big thing?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah Next year.
Hard to say, I think that'sawesome.
Want to go inward more?
Yeah, and find out what makesthe most sense.
Yeah, you know, like, wheredoes it, where does it all lead?
You know what's the big, what'sthe point of what's the big,
what's the fucking point, kindof question.
Yeah you know Not that I haveto figure it out next year.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
But it's a lesson, some inner Introspective,
spiritual, yeah, yeah, yeah, soit's like where do I?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
where do I see myself like later?
Mm-hmm you know it's notediting.
I'm glad I have the skill yeahyou know, but it's like
eventually you and I are gonnastep out of all of the, the
mundane stuff.
Yeah, completely yeah so it'swhat is the bigger, the bigger
sphere.
Yeah and then you know I Likehelping people incorporating
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some of that kind of stuff.
It will be nice to start makingmore money.
Yeah so I could do more shitlike that, maybe not full on
humanitarian, fly around theworld stuff, but I'll meet
somewhere in the middle.
Yeah you know some volunteeringtype things, yeah.
So I'm gonna incorporate someof that kind of shit and then,
yeah, I don't know If you couldvolunteer somewhere.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Where would you volunteer?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
It's a good question.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
How do you want to help people?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
That's what I'm trying to go in word and figure
out, like what is, what are myskills lead to the most impact?
Yeah, you know, make the mostsense.
That makes sense.
Like I'm not gonna, probablyI'm not gonna try and start.
I Don't think.
Maybe never say never, right.
But being like a acupuncturistwhere they study for 25 years of
, like, the meridians and the,everything you have to do
(12:10):
through the chi flow and youknow the traditional Chinese
medicine, it feels a little lateto start you know I'm saying
yeah, so it's finding what makesthe most sense, yeah, yeah, but
yeah, and started some martialarts this year, nice.
This is also part of that kindof more of that Rigidity like
(12:34):
building that, that Sturdinessmentally mm-hmm.
So I had nothing shakes you off.
Yeah, realizing Basically youcan do, you can accomplish a
shitload.
Our biggest enemy is ourselves.
We get in our own ways thatkind of thing.
So yeah, discipline.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, our perceived biggest enemy is this is pretty
timely, but terrorist attacksShark attacks definitely inemic
attacks a lot of people worriedabout shark attacks, especially
in Kansas.
But the real enemy is ourself.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, yeah, I mean the fear.
We're going on a whole thingnow, the fear instilled by these
events and the government andthe media.
Yeah.
Give them the power to controlyou, but if everyone let it all
go, they wouldn't have any power.
Yeah it's just that simple.
It's really not thatcomplicated.
(13:34):
Yeah, and you know it's that.
The process is not necessarilycomplicated, but putting it into
action is different, becausepeople have programs and, yeah,
deprogramming isn't easy.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Deprogramming is not easy, but the reality of the
need to deprogram is pretty.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, once you see it's simple and Concept, yeah,
difficult in action, yeah, deep.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
so continue deprogramming.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I want to deprogram myself.
Yeah basically, as far as I can, yeah, to where you reach that
higher level where you realizeanything's possible for yourself
.
Yeah, so Nice, without question.
But also knowing what it is youwant to create, understanding
they, not creating what societytells you to, the yachts and the
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mansions and all that dumb shit.
Yeah, what do you actually wantto create on the deepest level
for yourself?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah not Just like I want to be rich and I want, you
know, I want a bunch of bitches,that kind of thing yeah, it's
interesting, though, even thoughit's a little bit of a tangent,
but it's like what if theexistence is not finding the one
(14:52):
thing?
No, no, yeah, just being justexisting, just Just Accepting
whatever you have today and cangive today is enough.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
But also at the same time.
No, you're absolutely right.
Yeah, doing what we can today,but also Working, doing the
inner work.
Yeah, I Think it's like.
It's like doing it doesn't haveto be one thing.
I'm not saying.
There's only one thing in lifethat will make me happy.
Yeah, not like that.
But yeah, working hard, livingin the today but, also thinking
(15:30):
about when do?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I want to go right whatever, I don't know yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I'm sure like that.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I dig it, man, but no , you're right, it's not one
thing.
You know we don't have onething.
We have, we have it's.
You can do basically whateveryou want.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, there's a lot of options, fortunately.
Fortunately, yeah, we live in aCurrently.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, there's some things make position where some
things make less sense Thanothers, like I don't want to
work on Wall Street in New YorkCity personally.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I know, that.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, some people may want that and that's fine,
whatever.
Yeah so anyway.
So it's funny, I'm not.
I don't have big like Likeprofessional goals really.
Yeah, it's just kind of Keepgrowing, keep learning, and then
it'll kind of sort itself out.
Yeah as it's happening, yeah,day to day.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
D program.
D program re reprogram.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
D program and then take on a different program.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, D program.
The exterior influence negativeinfluences.
Yeah to make space for Existingnew creation present.
Yeah, and then giving the bestyou can with what you have in
the present moment, exactlyaccepting where that takes you.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, see, there we go, summed up quite nicely, damn
.
I wish I could do that.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I Could say it no, it's similar.
It's similar.
It's similar to where this yearhas been for me.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, I mean you've had a lot of growing, you've got
some actual professional goals.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, it's funny and that's kind of the biggest
struggle, but we'll lead up tothat, right?
Yeah, so now we're shifting.
Yeah, so big thing for me thisyear was 2023 started therapy,
totally moved past 30 years ofdisassociation.
Yeah, 100% healed that.
So you've had a transformativeyear, like an Absolute, insane
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transformative year.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah we're yeah, sorry yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
So big things accomplished this year.
Number one creating theenvironment that I am.
Probably it's probably beenprofessionally, even though I
haven't made a ton of money thisyear I'm living off the money I
made last year in the exit butas far as my contribution and
Create an environment, doingwhat I love, like, there's
(17:58):
probably only a couple ofprojects that I worked on this
year that were mildly Monday orannoying, yeah, but everything
I've done this year has beenlike what I want to do, yeah,
which is, you know that's a giftand I definitely received that
as a gift.
But yeah, the biggest milestoneobviously is just breaking
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through 40 years of likebuilding calluses around trauma
and breaking that shit up.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Like I mean through specifically on the therapy
train.
Like I thought God left me toSatan subconsciously.
I thought I was cursedsubconsciously.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
It's funny he's saying it out loud, huh.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, I thought I was , I thought we were general, I
thought I was generationallycursed.
I really couldn't see past afoot in front of me because of
the fog and the cloud that Ilived in every day and all
that's gone.
Now there's a lot of new thingsto learn.
Yeah, because I've I wasactually talking about that in
(19:13):
the therapy session this morningthat I had.
But, like these strings thatwere attached to these, these
whatever events that, thesenarratives that I established
from the age of three, now thatI'm detached from those, I'm
like floating.
So now it's like, now let'sfigure out where to reattach,
right.
It's like, once you de-programwhere, what's next?
(19:33):
You know, I, the desire for my,let's see, the big phrase was
my existence is independent frommy father's desire for me to
exist.
So, like the clean break, as myfather is his own being and I
am my own being that happenedthis year.
It's fucking wild.
Then yeah, physically, I mean,we did 28 miles on the bike and
(20:02):
I didn't want to die.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, I actually enjoyed it.
Yeah, you got to just enjoy anice ride, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
So, like I think, from a physical standpoint, with
this constant endurance andthat kind of stuff, I feel
pretty good.
My sleep has for years wasreally really bad and it comes
and goes, but this year I'veprobably slept better over the
course of a year.
I still have my you know acouple of times where I don't
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sleep well, but this year I'veprobably slept better than I
have in decades.
I've been more present, with myfamily Coming out of the fog.
My presence with my wife and myfamily has probably been
stronger than ever.
When I'm with my kids and withmy wife, I'm with my kids and
I'm with my wife.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Right, You're not stuck in a future unknown.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Oh yeah.
And that was the biggest breakof disassociation was just low
level anxiety, constantly fear,and I wasn't doing enough today
to prepare for the future andjust kind of realizing the
future doesn't exist and thatcomes back every once in a while
, but it's not the norm now.
Yes, it's the exception.
Yeah, it's the exception, a badexception.
But it is one of those, yeah, sothat's been absolutely fucking
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phenomenal.
It's amazing this podcastdropping an episode every week
yeah, going on two years now Inmy life.
I've started and stopped a lotof things just because my brain
constantly thinks, oh, thiswould be cool, what if we tried
this?
This is a cool idea.
That stuff never stops.
I don't really want it to stop.
(21:40):
I like that about myself, butfor me personally, getting into
the 40s is like well, if there'smore things I haven't done,
then it becomes a burden Becauselike, oh, there's a cool idea
I'll never do so.
This year has been really justexecuting a lot of the things
(22:04):
that I've wanted to do for along time.
I've got a YouTube series thatI started.
I even still have the videoslike 10 years ago.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
And so consistently producing content and some of it
was great and some of it wasgood and some of it was we're
just kind of being lazy, butconsistently producing a piece
of content every single week fortwo years is something I've
never done before Same and itfeels really fucking good.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Obviously, yeah, I've never done that yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Big accomplishment.
Yeah, there's some financialgoals obviously coming out of
the exit last year that we hit.
Having the goal before the exitwas a year's worth of savings,
so fortunately we're past that.
But starting to build up thekids, we got the kids wills and
(22:55):
trust and we've got all thestuff completely figured out and
legitimized, legalized and allthat shit for our death plan.
Yeah, so we're prepared to dieGreat, which is great.
So got all that done.
Yeah, so that's a recap.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Damn bro.
Yeah, we were working onourselves this year too.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, big time.
Both of us in our own way, Iwould say, for goals for next
year.
It's funny because now I'm inthis place of.
I've always been a planner,always, excuse me, I've always
had a detailed plan and I don'tknow if that was good.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I mean, how many of those are you doing now?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Well, it's like I have plans and I'm actively
pursuing them, yeah, but at thesame time, it's like I don't
know.
I think the biggest lesson fromthis year is do what you can
with what you have today.
And this, for me, I'll sayobnoxious, but because, again,
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my brain is a planning brain andI can go down to every single
detail of a plan that's two orthree years from now, but it's
like I have plans for next year.
I have things that I want toaccomplish, but a lot of it is
like why next year?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Like we're working on the shoe company.
Well, we're working on it, sowe're waiting for the fact,
we're waiting on a couple ofmilestone moments and then we're
going to launch the shoe brand.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, like, why is there have to be a date where
launch is no matter what?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, it's like when we're ready to launch, then
we'll decide the best next timeto launch Is it?
The shoes will be ready Rightnow?
We've got Christmas.
It's a little bit of a like youdon't want to launch, you got
to be careful around launchingsomething new around holidays.
You got to be strategic.
Of course, we don't want tosell shoes before Christmas and
then deliver after Christmas, sothat may cause us to not drop
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this year.
If we can't do it in time, wemay drop first of next year.
But it's like for me it's likeI've got.
There was a time period when wewere planning on dropping and
then we're going back and forthwith a factor we're making a
premium shoe, so there's a lotof things included in this, and
then a couple of weeks went by.
A couple of weeks went by andit's like, ok, cool.
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And then there was a momentwhere I got really frustrated.
But then I'm like, emotionallyand mentally, I have to remind
myself that all I can do is whatI can control.
And then, when the shoes areready to launch, when we have a
finished sample, then we can belike OK, cool.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Now what's our?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
launch plan yeah, and until we have that.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Can't have expectations on a date.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I don't want to.
Yeah, it's like constantlychanging the date versus just
being like fuck it, Like whenthe shoes are ready to launch,
we'll set the date.
Yeah, you know, boom, it iswhat it is.
And for me it's like askingmyself regardless of what
happens in life, are you goingto launch this footwear company?
And I feel like, the answer isyes.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Like it doesn't have to be on Q4.
You know, October 24.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
So it's like and I feel like that attitude is a
better attitude approach,especially as an entrepreneur.
It's like I will launch afootwear brand.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
It's happening, no matter what.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yes, and we will turn that footwear brand into a
lifestyle brand.
Yeah, that will happen and I'llbe glad to work on that, no
matter how much energy it takesor how hard it is.
Till I die, period, there yougo, so it does nothing else
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matters.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
All I can do is knowing that truth.
All I can do is what I can do.
What can I do today?
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Is there any?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
task that's outstanding that I need to get
done today.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Right, you can't make a flooded factory replace their
equipment faster.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
No.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Unless you have special powers I don't know
about.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
And I don't, I do not so you know I can't rub a genie
genie in a bottle.
Come, come, come again.
That's all I can think aboutanyway.
No, I don't have that.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
So yeah, there's exogenous factors.
Yeah.
And if everyone hasexpectations on a certain date
for their launches and shit youcan use it as kind of a
reference to get things done,but not as a if this doesn't
happen, I'm a worthless piece ofshit and this is all failing.
Yeah, and I'm quitting.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, and it's like I haven't had a day where there
was so many things I had toaccomplish across a different
business that I'm a part of towhere I couldn't get it all done
in a day at least what I couldcontribute.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
So it's like, until that happens, it's a different
problem.
It's like, okay, well, if Iwork on this, I'm not gonna work
on that, so which one should Iwork on?
Yeah, but right now it's likethat's not an issue, that's
what's nice to have in teammembers.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I know that are really awesome.
So back to goals for next year.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
The shoe company has Like I want to lose about 20
pounds and the reason for meit's 20 pounds because I know
it's like it's more about howyou feel than it is weight, but
I know how I feel when I'm about15 or 20 pounds.
Well, actually that goal for meis unique because I've lost
some weight this year.
I've leaned up a little bitthis year, just with all the
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riding and things that we'redoing and just not like eating
an entire bag of chips everynight before I go to bed, like I
did like pretty much everynight of my life pre eight
months ago, and then just beingaround you.
I eat healthier and I eatbetter because you're very
conscious of what you put inyour body.
So that's just a naturalproximity thing.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
But it's like, why would that be a goal for next
year?
It's like when I'm ready tofast for seven days and pick up
a exercise routine, you can dothat tomorrow.
I can do that tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
So, it's like, yeah, the whole year thing or whatever
.
I guess they're symbolic.
Yeah.
Whatever, maybe it makes moresense to fast in winter because
it's kind of more chill and daysare shorter.
Maybe you're not working ashard.
Yeah, not sweating as much.
But since we live in America,where everyone works all year
anyway and we're always in warmclimates.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
We don't really experience winter like people
did a hundred years ago, exactlyso.
So the only time we experiencedwinter is when we run to the
car and turn on our heated seats.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
I mean, I used to have an off season.
Yeah.
And yeah, I would chill inwinter.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah.
And so you'd probably, you'dprobably gain 10, 20 pounds in
the winter and then lose it inthe summer every year.
Of course I don't knowtraveling.
It's hard to maintain some thatshouldn't be traveling.
But yeah so, anyway, it's likefor me.
It's like, you know, looking atnext year, and anytime I start
thinking about next year's goals, that negative anxiety kind of
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comes up and it's like, okay,well, I want to accomplish this.
Well, why do I want toaccomplish that?
What's the meaning behind that?
What does that do for me?
You know, financial goals,physical goals, all that kind of
stuff.
It's like sure, I would like tohave a million dollars each for
my kids, in their trust, tohave some type of managed
(30:36):
lifestyle if I died or if Ibecame unable to work.
Well, I can't.
I mean, I can go play thelottery, but the only thing I
can really do towards that goalis what I'm doing now which is
working on launching businesses.
Yep, I've invested in certainthings at the right time, so
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it's just like those things maygrow.
Yeah, I mean, I can spend lessmoney today.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
True, we did get a what a $7 thing of soup we did,
so you spent $7 on lunch.
Yeah, well, you bought me lunch, so you spent $18 on lunch.
Yeah, for two people.
Yeah.
Dang bro.
But again like like, yeah, youcould spend less money, but you
don't even spend that much money.
Let's be real.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, I mean I've.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I've.
In the scheme of like a lot ofpeople.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I mean I got.
I was very fortunate to get awindfall last year and we're
still in our 1200 square foothome that looks like 1975.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
And we're okay with that.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, it's a cool house.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah, it's a nice house.
I like your house Like it'sjust, it's great.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
It is what it is.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah, it feels homey and I wanted to redo the
detached garage so we'd have aplace.
But we have a place now, youknow, and this place, the studio
that we're in right now iswe're around a bunch of cool
people.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
So it's like I don't really need that.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
So, anyway, it's funny.
It's like thinking about nextyear's goals and it's just like,
well, what's, what's the goalfor today?
I know where I'm going.
Yeah, you know I'm going.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, you're going.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I love to work.
Yeah, you're going to be fine,I'm going to continue to work.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, you like working.
Yeah, you will not have toworry about money.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, I mean a year where I technically could have
taken the year off and notworked at all and then just got
another job next year.
And now you're laying down thefoundation and I've been working
all year.
Yeah, because I mean work's fun, honestly, and even when I had
jobs, I, if I wasn't aroundpeople I didn't like or I didn't
like the job, I would just quit.
Yeah, you know, I've beenfortunate, like the last five
(32:45):
years I spent at Rip.
It like it was fun.
I mean, it was hard times, ofcourse, and there's always
frustrations, but labor isn'tit's not called labor because
it's like, you know, vacation.
But but I love the people and Ilove the work.
And this year I love the peopleand I love the work.
So, yeah, even around annoyingpeople, then it's just a
(33:06):
challenge.
Every day is a challenge tomake them laugh.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
So it was like a family traditions yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Actually, we had a blast at family traditions.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I bet.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
We fucking.
I bet A bunch of teenagersworking at a family restaurant.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Oh yeah, imagine when I worked in Atlanta Bread
Company with all of my friends,and one of our friends was the
manager, natalie.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
We used to get high, yeah, and make a steak, mashed
potatoes and gravy and cheesesandwich on Texas toast.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
That's the most Southern stoner shit I've ever
heard.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
That shit was gnarly bro, but anyway.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I watched the guy make when I worked at Zaxby's.
I was 16 years old.
I watched the guy roll achicken tender and a piece of
bread with a piece of cheese init, dipped it in batter and
fried the whole thing Deep friedbread with chicken in the
middle.
And I mean, you know, as a 16year old who's hungry, working
on his shift, that was probablypretty dynamite.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
It was pretty good, but that is like disgusting.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Let's be real Also.
Just drink the fat.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Drink the fuck, drink fryer oil, yeah, so anyway, I
mean, if I'm being honest, somegoals are really.
It's just launching thesecontent ideas.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
You know.
I mean there's goals forclubhouse, but again we're kind
of in a steady groove.
We know what we want toaccomplish.
We are going to demystify themusic industry.
Big goal, big vision.
We're going to build thecreator middle class.
We're going to redistributewealth from the you know 1% of
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musicians back to the middleclass musicians.
We're going to do that.
And so now and we know to thebest of our knowledge, how we're
going to approach doing that sonow it's just executing yeah.
What's the net?
You know what can we work on.
Today Got a meeting at fouro'clock about it.
So it's like, it's like for me,once the vision is set and it
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has purpose and meaning, andthen it's just the steady, and
then you can just take all thepressure off.
You know, gotta have this bythis time.
This has that.
But obviously we gotta feed ourfamilies, we gotta pay the
bills based on our current, youknow, cultural norms and economy
and how things work.
So obviously there's thatpressure associated with revenue
(35:35):
generation versus just, youknow, purely doing one
passionate regardless of revenue.
But but I mean, what's?
What's the famous producer whoworked with with the crazy hair?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Mike Rubin.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, I just saw a clip the other day and he's just
like as a musician.
If you deeply love what youproduce and you feel it's good,
that high vibration and energythat you project when you're
delivering, that art is whatpeople enjoy, versus worrying
(36:09):
about what people like and thenforcing yourself into that yeah,
cause that's low vibration.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I just make it.
Make what you want yeah, andmake it for you, yeah.
Make it for you, Not for them.
And if it brings you cause, ifit's if you make it for other
people.
Where's the fulfillment in that?
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Yeah, and there's a lot of, if you're making art for
other people.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
I mean, I guess I don't fucking know.
I'd always thought I justfigured you, just make it for
yourself.
Yeah.
Yeah, because if you worryabout how other people want it
to be, then how do you everfinish?
You could spend 10 years on onesong.
Yeah.
Like.
Well, what if they don't likethis?
Chorus, yeah what about thispiano part.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
And it's like, even with a focus cast with
Forerunner Gunner, like surethere's, like you know, we're
100 episodes in and next episodewe're going to break down our
numbers and how many followerswe have and growth and all that
kind of stuff.
But like even that, it's likesure there's the pressure of,
you know, more following becausethen you can monetize and then
(37:12):
you can generate revenue andthen that just funds you keep
doing it.
But some of the some of thestuff that for me personally, a
lot of the pressure, is likethis piece of art.
I see where it could be better.
So I want it to be better, Iwant to be more satisfied with
the product.
You know, forerunner Gunner, Igo back and watch our adventure
(37:35):
videos for fun.
I go back and listen to ourepisodes ourselves and I'm like,
oh fuck, I forgot we eventalked about that and I relearn
it for fun and it brings me joy.
Yeah, you know and so, like youknow, obviously, if you and I
both, for some reason, end upgetting full time jobs and our W
(37:58):
twos and we're not doing thisevery day we're still going to
go on adventures.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
We got the shit to record it.
Yeah, we'll still record it.
It'll just be edited in nightJust edit it Exactly Instead of
editing during the day Exactly.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Like we did the focus cast last year?
Yeah, I was editing.
Was it when I had like Sundaysoff or after work?
Yeah.
I was cutting down social clubs.
You know.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
So it's like if it doesn't bring us joy anymore,
stop doing it.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
But I liked, when you said like the consistency, to
like doing something.
A hundred episodes.
Yeah.
Even if nothing happens, I haveno attachments.
Yeah.
It's the fact that we did ahundred episodes and one every
week and stuck with it.
If you can do that and like,yeah, with the following that we
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have, which is not nothing, butit's not amazing.
You know, that's just sayingthat's almost like a straight up
willpower grit kind of thing.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Because like a job is like, you have to get a job to
make money to pay the bills.
But we, for a hundred episodes,didn't have to do this.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
We chose to do it and we stuck with it one episode
every week for two years Withoutattachments to how much it grew
.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, and honestly, we did this with very little
positive reinforcement fromanyone outside you and me.
We've got a few super fans.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
But like it's not, like we're getting emails like
oh man, you guys are great,thank you for doing this Like
that shit doesn't.
It doesn't happen yet.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
No but.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
But we stuck with it and you're right, that's kind of
that like that willpower, andit's kind of like it's like the
cold showers, in my opinion.
This podcast is like the coldshowers.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
So if you can force your body to shock itself for
three to five minutes every timeyou take a shower, then you can
really do anything.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
That's what I went to remember that episode.
I was like, if you can take acold shower, you can handle
divorce, even though I've neverbeen in one.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
But the cold that's yeah if you do something
difficult.
That's why.
I like starting the day with acold shower because it's
difficult.
It makes all the other shiteasier.
Yeah, you got three minutes,three minutes.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
It's the rest of your day easier.
Sometimes those three minuteshas a long ass.
Three minutes.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
The first 30 seconds is always shocking but I tell
you what it brings you back intothat present moment.
You're not thinking aboutfuture past, you're not thinking
about any other shit.
Think about, I think, what iswrong with you.
That is the moment.
Yeah, I think about how fuckingtwisted you are.
No, that's the beautiful thingabout it you can't be anxious or
depressed or think about thefuture or the past when you're
(40:53):
in a cold shower.
You are only thinking about thecold shower.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
And that's the same thing for me for mountain biking
.
That's why, mountain biking,when we just got back from cold
water, which is a mountain inAlabama and it was, I think we
did like 22, 24 miles that dayand there was a climb that was,
like you know, a good 800 feet,900 feet, yeah, straight up
basically.
And it was just and it waspretty long.
I mean it was a good mile, halfmile or mile and a half,
(41:20):
whatever felt long, but like youjust keep going, you just keep
going and your body is just likelike two years ago.
That would have wrecked us.
Oh yeah, I would have hoppedoff the bike, I would have sat.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
But now you just go, you just go and you keep going.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
You just pedal and even if you go into granny gear
and go slow, but you just don'tstop.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
You're not stopping and it's like fighting past that
willpower, or the willpower tofight past the body, just like
what in the absolute hell areyou doing?
Speaker 2 (41:52):
It's good.
That's.
That's another reason I startedmartial arts.
Take it to the next level, yeah, like that, that, um, what's
the fucking word?
I'm talking, I'm thinking of.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Great willpower.
Yeah, it's like unbreakable.
You've never done 40 pushups ina row and you're on like 48 and
you're like shaking andinstructors like keep going.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Basically.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
And you keep going and you keep going.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
You go until your muscles can't do it, yeah, and
then you keep going, so um yeah,I think those us incorporating
more of those things is makingjust getting through.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
You know, I mean it's 2023, october.
Um, you know, it looks likewe're staring down a world war.
You know, there's floods,there's earthquakes, there's
wars.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Yeah, it's all fear.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
but there's all kinds of stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
You know we're at $33 trillion in debt.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Fear.
Yeah, that's all.
Fear, state shit and it's likebut but.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Among all of that, how are we going to stay focused
?
And and if the world's heretomorrow?
Speaker 2 (43:11):
you have to work on yourself keep going.
Yeah, work hard on whateveryou're doing and still go inward
.
Do the do the inner work aswell.
Yeah, that's a piece.
Yeah, you know I'm going tolean a little more on it.
That you know I plan on leaningmore into it.
Yeah.
That, yeah, that's a piece thateveryone should be.
Yeah.
(43:31):
I mean and I'm not trying torip on the people who's still
like let's go out to the barsand let's do all this shit, and
they're like 40s and 50s.
You've seen them.
Yeah.
But does that shit not getboring After a while?
Going to the bar after workevery day you're fucking 55
years old Talking about nothing,talking about how much your job
(43:53):
sucks yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
You're not going to do anything about it.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah, I can't be that .
Yeah, I absolutely refuse to bestuck.
Yeah, like that I it's just notan option.
Yeah.
Yeah, I can't imagine yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, doing
that well, it's like part, partof the life bitching, bitching
bitching about it and not doinganything.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Yeah, what I say it's people go to work and bitch
about their home and go home andbitch about their work yeah.
I'm just like just fucking killyourself.
Don't kill yourself, go help.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
But I'm just saying, like, what's the point of?
Speaker 1 (44:25):
living.
Yeah, if you're not gonna doanything about it.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah, they don't talk about it.
Yeah, that's what it is.
If I have something that I'mlike I I've there's been things
where I'm like man, I just don'ttalk about it, even though,
like I'm, I'm not doing it I'm.
If I'm not doing anything aboutit, I'm not gonna complain
about it yeah, so it makes sense.
Yes, yes, because it's justwhatever yeah going inward.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yeah, I think these, the the forerunner gunner trips
too, is like I think part of.
I can't speak for women and Ireally can't speak for men, I
can speak for myself, but Iassume, based on what I know to
be true, about men, adventureand success, like and I'm not
talking like our, our society'sview of success.
(45:10):
I'm just talking about like thesmall wins.
Right, because I was listeningto this podcast about
testosterone and how when we fixsomething, our testosterone
actually goes up.
Yeah, when we accomplishsomething We've never done, our
testosterone goes up and part ofour chemical makeup is
maintaining a high level oftestosterone.
So it's just built in oursystems and mechanics and
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chemistry to seek outopportunities to maintain a
level of testosterone.
And when we do the forerunnergunner trips, the reason I love
Our format so much is becauseevery time we do a trip, we go
somewhere We've never beenbefore.
We ride a trail We've neverridden before, you know.
We stay at a campsite We'venever been before.
Yeah, we drive on overlandingtrails We've never been on
(45:55):
before, yeah, and so it's likethere's the adventure aspect and
so for me, as a 41 year old, IFeel like, because I've always
said I'm a nomad by spirit, butI've lived in the same house in
the same county.
Mm-hmm you know, but we adoptedkids.
Yeah, you've got a family.
Those kids have special needs.
Well, I'm just saying like,even though I stay in the same
(46:17):
place, I live a prettyadventurous life.
Yeah, I'm an entrepreneur.
Kids with special needs,adopted kids, change career
paths completely.
Yeah, taking risks, quit jobs,started jobs, you know, invested
in things.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Yeah, and you could have just stayed home the whole
time and had the same job.
Yeah yeah, and you could, andif anyone tried to get you out
of the house you'd be like Idon't know, I can't do it.
Yeah, I'm too busy too busy.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
So I think setting up these or or setting up a life
in which we constantly haveadventure yeah, you know,
eventually we're gonna hit everypark in the southeast and then
we'll have to start driving more.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
Yeah, I hit driving.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
But it is what it is, yeah, but anyway, I think
that's really helped to from thepsyche standpoint.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Well, and look at Chad.
Yeah we were on this last tripand Chad, one of the guys we
ride with, he's like what do yousay?
Speaker 1 (47:10):
This is the best weekend I've had in a decade.
Boom, that's fucking.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
In almost cried when I heard that and for those
listening, this was not anexpensive weekend.
It's a fucking thirty dollarcampsite for two nights.
Yeah, split between four people, it's food and some food and
some snacks for when you'remountain biking.
That's it.
That's it in gas.
Yeah, maybe a hundred buckseach this isn't flying the
(47:39):
fucking now you know yeah.
Maui, yeah, and staying in aresort for $1,200 a day yeah,
this is a trip grand totalbetween all of us that probably
only cost.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yeah, and it was an hour and a half drive, our nap
drive.
There's only an hour and a halfdrive and about a hundred bucks
each, and we had, to Chad'squote, one of the best weekends
in a decade.
That's a man.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
That's the the kind of the mantra for runner gunner
is to make people want to go onan adventure.
Yeah.
That's the mission statementfor me.
I think you too, right.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah, and we went overlanding and he took his
two-wheel-drive Highlander.
Yeah he didn't have a newforerunner like us, he took that
bitch out and we took it as wepushed it as far as we could.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
That's right and it was awesome.
Yeah, so you know it's easy toget stuck.
Yeah, in the minutia.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
I don't have an $8,000 mountain bike.
I don't either.
I wrote on a trail thatprobably could have used one.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yeah, I mean, my bike was a couple grand like Four
years ago.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Yeah and I got it on sale and we don't have this
souped up, everything on ourforerunners.
No, we have what we have wedon't have an RV for a camp.
You know we got some tents andhonestly we have more shit than
most people.
I know we got a ball mass butstill like we don't have a lot
of stuff.
But we still went out and hadan absolute epic adventure.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Yeah, and it was.
It's having people to go withbecause Chad would Chad's not
gonna do it by himself.
Yeah, he's not gonna be thesame experience.
He's not gonna plan cold waterby himself.
Yeah.
So sometimes you need acatalyst.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Well, there's um that reminds me that quote that I
love in into the wild, where heexperienced something great.
And he looked around no one'saround, and he said joy is
experienced when joy is shared.
Mmm, yeah, so having a goodsquad.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Yeah, I don't think humans are meant to be alone
either.
No, that's a whole nother topicof division and lone wolf
narrative.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Well, it goes back to why 2023 was so great for me
working with you.
Yeah like we work well together.
Yeah like we brainstorm alltogether.
Yeah, like you know, youchallenge me, I challenge you.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Yeah like yeah, we challenge you cuz we have.
We just are different.
Yeah and lately as far asapproaches.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Yeah, you know, I like to press in music.
You like happy music?
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yeah, obviously similar similar beliefs and
foundations you know, yeah, asfar as how I feel about
government and Life in general,and positive positivity, yeah,
obviously Foundational.
A lot in common but at the sametime, a lot enough is different
to learn from each other.
Yeah, yeah, brian likesdepressing ass music.
(50:30):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
So if you hear any song with minors, it's usually
me inspired.
If you're song with seven sinyeah diminished.
It's Jonathan's Diminishednines.
What's?
Speaker 2 (50:42):
that.
What's your favorite chord?
Oh, it's a minor.
It's minor seven at nine.
Yeah, it's so fucking good.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
I'm just the yeah, I love.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
I love major sevens, minor sevens, minor seven at
nine is.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Mine is minor seven minor, minor at sad minor, add
extra minor extra side of minor.
Yeah, so anyway, but yeah, Imean.
So, yeah, I mean next year.
It's like it's there's a pieceof me that has anxiety Around,
but then there's a piece of methat's just like it's the.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
You know, the inflation sucks.
Let's be real.
Yeah it eats into your nest egg.
Yeah, but plations a killer.
You know it is what it is.
Yeah you know, we have thingswe can fall back on if we have
to, which is great.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah so and honestly it's like next year is next year
.
I sure is next year like Rightnow we get to have a bowl of
soup on a nice chill day outsidein the Sun.
Yeah, and come back and recorda couple episodes.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Fuck yeah yeah, sweet .
So go buy our patented?
I'm just kidding.
Yeah, we don't have any of that.
I.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
Goal script.
Yeah, all right.
Well, that was 52 minutes.
We should stop talking andwe're out.
Thank you for listening to thefocus cast, go to youtubecom,
slash the focus, cast and slap.
Speaker 4 (52:13):
That's a button head to the focus cast.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Stop, and I'm sure you want to hear next go forth
and be focused as boy.
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