Ben C Jones on Hot Yoga Cults, Billionaire Rockets & Trippy New Tunes

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Chad (00:00):
Get in here.
We gotta start the show.
We gotta start the show.
Oh, hello everyone, and welcometo the Funky Panther Coming to
you from Fort Worth, texas.
We have got a hell of a showfor you here on episode 196?

(00:25):
I think that's right.
That sounds about right.

Tim (00:27):
Yeah, 196, I think is right .

Chad (00:28):
We've got our friend Benzie Jones in the building
Want to say hey, he is here forhis third go around technically
Two and a half, three times.
Yeah, yeah, third time on thepod, so so glad to have you.

Tim (00:42):
Is it like once, twice, three times, a lady Three times
a lady.

Chad (00:46):
So sit back, relax, enjoy, let's get into it.
I'm Chad, I'm Tim, I'm Ben andwe are.

Tim (00:54):
The Funky Baby.
Third, I was not prepared forthat either.
I thought I was going to do it,then you were going to do it
and I was yeah, whatever, it wasyour whole thing.

Chad (01:05):
We the whole thing.
We need Javier.
You know, obviously Javier isnot with us tonight.

Bencjones (01:07):
Rest in peace.
If you don't know what happened, I'm just.
I murdered him and then I tookhis place.

Tim (01:10):
He's actually below if you don't remember the last time, uh
, benji.

Bencjones (01:14):
Jones was on.

Tim (01:15):
I think he had this whole like uh, wrestler persona.

Bencjones (01:18):
I did.

Tim (01:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Australian guy yeah, this
Australian guy, I think that'swho killed Javier.
Okay, that was okay.

Chad (01:25):
That was near Fort Worth like 817 Day or something like
that right, I think that waswhen.
I was in Egypt, I believe.
So, yeah, yeah yeah, yep, yep.

Bencjones (01:31):
There's always one of you guys messy when I'm here,
that's weird, I don't know why.

Chad (01:35):
Not the first time, the first time we were all here For
the fourth time.
You come on.
Tim's going to be in my episode.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Probably will be.

Chad (01:43):
Which is going to be unfortunate because I don't know
how to run the board.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
But you know, we'll figure it out.

Chad (01:47):
It's fine, so what has everyone been fucking up to?
We'll start with you, just kindof like over the past few weeks
, what have you been up?

Bencjones (01:55):
to yeah.
I started hot yoga.
Okay, has anybody ever done?
That before I have seen womencome out of the hot yoga place.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I sure have too.

Chad (02:04):
Whenever I worked at a retail store, there was a hot
yoga next door and we would seeall these nice young ladies.

Bencjones (02:11):
This is getting creepy, aren't you married?

Chad (02:16):
Not yet, and I wasn't at the time either.
Calmate, never mind.
Go on, hang on.

Tim (02:22):
Have you ever seen a little little kid whenever he sees
something?
And he's got his face pressedagainst the window.

Bencjones (02:27):
That was me yeah.

Tim (02:29):
Like the cleaning lady every morning you go by that
store.

Chad (02:32):
Squeegee, yeah, squeegee, that same spot of the glass.

Tim (02:35):
His face is permanently imprinted in that glass.

Bencjones (02:38):
now, Dude this thing is like a beat down.
Basically, you do these 26postures and you gotta hold them
and you gotta breathe and oh mygod, I'm so out of shape.
I didn't realize just like hownot flexible I am.
I have like a horrible bad back.
My uh hamstrings are like supertight, so it's just like um,

(02:59):
yeah, I've been doing that forlike the last like month but
that's exactly what you need,right it's all stretching, it's
just like loosening you up it'snot all stretching.
There's parts where you'rehaving to like, um, you're like
having to hold stuff, like.
There's like when we like youlift your leg up and you're
holding yourself on one leg andyou're trying to balance and one
of my legs is just likecramping up and stuff and just

(03:21):
uh, so, yeah, I'm learning thatI I got a ways to go, but uh,
I've been going every day and,um, yeah, it's kind of it's kind
of taken over, um, but yeah,it's been a lot of fun.
Like compared to today, today,compared to day one, I could do
so much more than I could dobefore.
And I do feel stronger and Ifeel more limber.
And people are like, yeah, youhit your 30 days, it's gonna

(03:43):
change your life, and I'm like Idon't, you know, your 30 days
it's going to change your life.
And I'm like I don't, you know,so I don't really feel changed.
I mean I feel a little bit morehealthier.
But yeah that's about it.

Chad (03:52):
What made you want to jump into the hot yoga scene?

Bencjones (03:55):
Yeah, the chicks are cool.
No, who sounds weird now?
I don't know.
No, I've been wanting to getinto shape.
Like COVID threw a lot of stuffoff, I was doing jujitsu, oh
okay.
I did that.
I got up to a blue belt, so Icould probably put you guys in

(04:16):
an arm bar if it went downFucking, try it.
Yeah, that's why Javier's nothere.
He's had an arm bar earlier.

Tim (04:22):
Is that a place where you go to drink?
I feel like arm bar would be areally cool name for a bar, I
think so too, they have crow bar.
They do have crow bar the armbar, and it's just a Hear me out
, okay.
You go to the arm bar and it'sjust a bunch of dudes putting
people in arm bars.

Chad (04:38):
I think you lost me on that one dude.
That's what it is that nolonger sounds fun.

Bencjones (04:48):
That sounds painful.

Tim (04:48):
Well, I mean people will pay for it.
Oh yeah, there'd be somebody.
Yeah, there's always somebody.
I mean there's this wholesubgenre.
We don't need to get into that,but there's a subgenre on the
internet of of certain thingsthat you know, this is like a
bdsm type situation, maybe worse.

Bencjones (05:00):
Okay, moving on, continuing yeah, so, so, and
then COVID came around,disrupted that and then I kind
of stopped going and so and thenyou know you start getting a
little bit older.
So I guess I hung up my bluebelt.
I might go back if I can getlike healthier with this yoga
thing, but I was like I got todo something.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah.

Bencjones (05:20):
I got to do something .
So I was just like, let me givethis hot yoga a try.
And I went to this place andthey were super nice and they've
been very supportive.
They're like oh yeah, go Ben,you can do it.
And I was like, oh, all right.

Tim (05:34):
Thanks guys.
I think I would do regular yogafirst.
Yeah, you took it to an extreme.

Chad (05:38):
Just do it.

Tim (05:38):
Yeah.

Chad (05:45):
Let's just put you in the, in the armpit of the sun, and
um make you do weird poses.
Yeah, do these things, but alsoget really sweaty and slippery.

Bencjones (05:48):
It's 105 degrees god inside there dang it and I'm
just pouring buckets yeah and Ilook over at some of the other
people there and they're likenot sweating at all.
They're hitting all the poses.

Tim (06:00):
I'm just like jeez, I'm so out of they're not sweating
because they're probablydehydrated it could be and I
believe that's a sign of heatstroke.
To be honest with you, I don'tthink you probably should watch
out, right?

Bencjones (06:12):
I've heard that people have passed out.
Really yeah, like if you don'tlike take it easy, like you go
in and if you're not preparedyou might actually pass out, and
that hasn't happened.
You might actually pass out andthat hasn't happened.
Like the first day I did haveto take like a West Texas
football practice knee because Iwas just like dude, this is

(06:33):
intense.

Chad (06:34):
I was just about to ask what was your first day like
going into something brand newlike that, knowing that people
are probably killing it.

Bencjones (06:40):
I hadn't worked out like that in a very long time
and it took a minute for me torecover.
But yeah, I had to take a knee.
Um, and then I also learnedlike it's good to have water no
way in that situation, homeboyshows up.

Tim (06:54):
He's got no water, he's got uh you know it's funny, because
the original guy who set allthis up was like americans are
weak like no water and like theamericans were like nah, do we
need it, man come on like, andso I tried to do no water well,
I learned, uh, one of the lasttimes that you were on the show
that, uh, we, we are in a uh,what is it uh like subtropical

(07:16):
climate zone over down here?

Bencjones (07:18):
yeah, yeah, yeah, so humid subtropical, yeah, so I
did, did say that I believe goodmemory.

Tim (07:25):
Yeah, I believe, yeah, I believe that you do need water
in those environments.
You do, it's a fact, you do.
I mean, there's a phenomenonwhenever you it's so humid that
your body can't evaporate thesweat off, and so you don't get
cool and you die.
What?
Yeah, like you have heat strokebecause of it, so you can be
out there sweating, but like youcan't evaporate, so you can't

(07:46):
cool because the humidity levelis so high.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Where does the?

Bencjones (07:48):
sweat go.
It stays on your body, it juststays on you.
I have heard about that Really,yeah, so that's where we're
headed With, like global warming, yeah 100%.

Tim (07:56):
It's going to be just one big Everyone will be living in,
like Antarctica.
We're all living our own soup.
Yeah, it's gross.

Bencjones (08:06):
Yeah, whatever Cool, this conversation is fun, so
yeah, so yeah, I've been doing alot of that, and then, of
course, I've been doing a lot ofmedia.
This is, I want to say, thethird.
You guys got the bronze.

Tim (08:20):
You're kind of on a media circuit, huh.

Bencjones (08:22):
I am, yeah, I'm like trying to you know, be legit and
move around and talk toeverybody.

Tim (08:27):
Hold the fuck on bronze well, we're third, we're the
third.
Uh, we're the third one.
The fourth one doesn't even getget ranked at all.
They don't get anything becauseof what?

Chad (08:37):
what criteria?
You're on the podium well,based this off of the number in
which you've done this.
The the order, yeah.

Bencjones (08:44):
That's it Okay.

Chad (08:45):
Well, you're number one in my heart.
Can we end this thing?

Tim (08:48):
If we're not gold, he's the fuck out of here.
Well, he said we're number onein his heart.

Bencjones (08:51):
You're number one in my heart, okay.

Chad (08:53):
But you're number three on the-.
He's got a gold heart for us.

Bencjones (08:55):
On the circuit of local podcasts.
You good here, so yeah.
I did some of the competitors.

Chad (09:07):
Nah, we're all friends, no competitors anymore.
I'm over here talking shit.
They're probably better.
We love them.

Bencjones (09:12):
I got a write-up on the Fort Worth magazine.
That was pretty cool.
That's a first for me.

Tim (09:18):
That's great.

Bencjones (09:20):
And yeah, I do have.
I know I have at least one morepodcast.
I'm supposed to have anotherone, but I haven't heard back
from this guy.
So there's supposedly two morethat are supposed to happen and
maybe Fort Worth Weekly willreach out at some point.

Chad (09:37):
That'd be awesome.
Yeah, so you deserve a cover.
You know what I mean.
You deserve a weekly cover atthis point.

Tim (09:43):
What would you wear on your cover, like what would be your
outfit?
Uh, it would be the all whiteoutfit, okay, yeah, that's
that's kind of what I.
I figured that's what we usefor this.

Bencjones (09:52):
Yeah yeah, it would be the all white outfit and I
actually do have a picture oflike.
If they're like, do you have apicture?
And I'd be like yeah, it'sgonna be this one right here oh,
that's a good one yeah, thankyou.

Chad (10:02):
That's a really good one.
Oh, that's great.

Bencjones (10:04):
You're gonna have to wait the rest of you.
That's great Until it's on thecover Of the weekly.
But yeah, so it's a media blitzand I got the idea From Bill
Burr.
Okay.
And I saw him on Jimmy Kimmelin January and he's like, yeah,
in March I'm gonna be um, havinga thing come out for a hulu, a

(10:25):
special.
And then in april we're gonnabe doing broadway and I'm like,
dude, that's like okay.
February I'm like doing the mathhere, I'm like that's like a
few months away yeah, yeah so Iwas just like, okay, let me
start getting the hype for yeahyeah, you got to get it out
there yeah, for the show I gotcoming up june 13th over at the
post.

Tim (10:43):
Hell yeah and that gives us plenty of time to make
arrangements to actually bethere.

Chad (10:48):
Yeah, yeah.

Tim (10:49):
Have you been to the Post since it's moved?
I have what do you think?
Is it a good spot?
Yeah, it's great Okay.

Bencjones (10:54):
It's great it's got the Lola's history behind it
Sure yeah.
And Birdie's kind of cleaned itall up and stuff so it's kind
of nice now Got a nice bathroom.

Tim (11:04):
I don't know, man, I like those dingy bathrooms, you know.

Bencjones (11:07):
Yeah.

Tim (11:07):
Kind of might get shanked, Might get a little stabby stabby
.
I think you're alone on thatone man.

Chad (11:11):

Tim (11:15):
But if you're going to upgrade anything, make it the
bathroom.
So I'm going to tell you, I gotto tell you paid musician.
I can say that I got paid onetime.
Um, we, we played a show up atuh rubber gloves up and didn't.
I don't know if you've everbeen there I've heard of it it's
a cool little venue but it's avery much like diy at the time,
like a lot of punk shows is itstill open?

(11:35):
oh yeah, still open, yeah um,they've, they've made it a
little bit, a little bit better.
Um, they've got a nice bigoutdoor stage now it's actually
pretty cool, um, and it was coolback then.
But I walked into, I was going,I got to go to the bathroom and
, uh, this guy comes out as asingle, like single bathroom
situation, like one door, one,you know, toilet one sink,
that's it.
And he just opens the door.
He's like I won't touchanything in there and I was like
, all right, and I'll go in.

(11:56):
There's graffiti all over thewalls and I do my business and I
wash my hands and I go to dryit and I look at the hand dryer
and I chose not to touch itbecause it was the plug, for it
was cut and it was two barewires stuck in the outlet and I
was like maybe I don't die today, you know, yeah, so that was my

(12:16):
one.

Chad (12:16):
That was the one time air drying with your hands flicking
water in the outlet that was theone time I was a paid musician
wow, that sounds like a lawsuitI'm sure.

Tim (12:27):
I'm sure they had to fix it .
I'm sure that and that it's,it's better now it's probably
fixed now.

Bencjones (12:30):
Yeah, go up the rubber gloves.

Tim (12:31):
It's, it's a, it's a, it's a cool place who would like it,
who was just like.

Bencjones (12:35):
Well, let's just plug these in and just see what
happens.
I bet you anything?

Chad (12:38):
it was a customer, I bet you it was anything like, or a
patron.
Whatever they came in, theycouldn't get their hands around.
They're like fuck this.
And they pulled out theirpocket knife, cleaned the thing
and stuck it in the fucking wall.

Tim (12:47):
That's what it was and then pressed it and it worked.

Chad (12:50):
I highly doubt an employee would have set that up like you
never know they're trying to.

Tim (12:54):
They're trying to trap you, trying to get you.
Yeah, give you a little zap.
Yeah, I don't know if that'sthe right method.
I don't know either, but I'venever zapped anybody, so it's
hard to say.

Bencjones (13:04):
Yeah Well, what about you?
I've noticed that you've beentraveling all over the world.
Damn it, how come I can'ttravel to Italy and Hong Kong?

Chad (13:13):
Sir, you are a grown man, you can do whatever you want.
They won't let me.
They won't let me out of thecity.
It's the government.

Tim (13:21):
Yeah, no, we went up to Hong Kong, which I learned a lot
about China in general.

Chad (13:30):
I went to Beijing years ago.
China, china, china, china,china, china, china, china,
china, china, china, china,china, china, china, china,
china, china, china.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
China, china.

Chad (13:39):
You know, I could see that .
And then Hong Kong is likecompletely different.

Bencjones (13:44):
It's like the Austin of.

Chad (13:46):
Yeah, austin or New York or something like.
It's super chill laid back, youstill have the culture, but
it's it's.
It's also a lot more fuckingexpensive.
Like ten dollar beers was thereg, you know, and that was a
little much.
And there's a bunch of islandslike you got Hong Kong Central
and Lantau Kowloon, we went to abunch of islands.
Like you got Hong Kong Centralthen Lantau Kowloon, we went to
a few of them.
It was cool.
I thought beer was supposed tobe cheap over there.

Bencjones (14:08):
In mainland.

Chad (14:08):
China Right Exactly.

Tim (14:11):
So you got to go deep in, you got to go deep in to get the
Pee Joe.
Excuse me.

Bencjones (14:15):
You got to go deep in .

Tim (14:18):
What the fuck did you say?

Bencjones (14:19):
You got to go deep to get the pijo okay, okay,
explain well, okay, so uh,mandarin is the main language of
most of china?
I don't know, I think in hongkong they speak something
different uh, it's, it's still,or cantonese or cantonese.
Yeah, yeah szechuan's a food,okay, cantonese well done.

Chad (14:37):
I'm glad that I paused and let you answer that.

Bencjones (14:41):
Um, I want to say that, yeah, they speak cantonese
in hong kong, but the rest of,like most of china, they speak,
uh, mandarin, and P Joe is theword for beer.
Oh, ok.

Tim (14:49):
OK, so you got to get.
You got to go in the mainland.
You get the cheap beer or the PJoe.
Yeah, ok, ok, cool, I got you,but we didn't you drink the $10
beers.

Chad (14:58):
We drank what we had, and you know we had some really good
stuff.
Like we went to, this cocktailbar was one of the top 50
cocktail bars in the world andthey were twenty five dollars a
drink.
They were also some of the bestdrinks we've ever had.
Like we were just like we werewith our friends Jesus and
Crystal, which he's used as amusician as well.
He they live in Wong Jo, whichis like an hour and a half

(15:22):
northwest of Hong Kong, and sowhere they live is considerably
cheaper, right.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, okay.

Chad (15:28):
But we decided that we wanted to do kind of the main
stuff because we only had a week, so the four of us we were just
like passing drinks around.
That's what we do.
We want to try everything right, Take a sip, pass it around.
They're $25 drinks.
I want to say I had 12 drinks,so of course, course, passed
them around.
It was fun, it was good.
Then we went to Macau, which islike the Vegas of.

Bencjones (15:48):
China Right, right.
So it's the former Portuguesecolony, right.
Very good.

Chad (15:54):
Portuguese in Macau and British in Hong Kong Didn't know
either one of those things.
So yeah, in Macau, and we hadtapas because there's a lot of
Portuguese bars and restaurantsand stuff, we and we had tapas
because there's a lot ofPortuguese bars and restaurants
and stuff, we stayed at theVenetian just because it looked
nice for the price, and sothat's what we did.
We didn't realize that it's thelargest casino in the world.

Tim (16:11):
I had no idea.
Wow, okay, is it akin to theVenetian in Vegas?
Yeah, yeah.

Chad (16:17):
I mean, there's like Gordon Ramsay restaurants.

Tim (16:19):
Okay, yeah, I got you there , there's.

Chad (16:20):
Venetian, there's the Parisian Like there's all like
it very much is like Vegas,Vegas, but different Like.
Okay, Let me give you a fewreasons why it's different.
One they take their gambling soseriously.
I'm talking Well.

Tim (16:35):
I could have told you that I had no idea.
The Chinese, and I'm not justgeneralizing this, but the ones
that like to gamble?
Yeah, holy.
The ones that like to gambleyeah, holy crap, dude, we get
out onto the-.
What is it?
Baccarat, that's like one oftheir big games, or something
like that.

Chad (16:48):
See, that might have been the one that I didn't know what
the fuck was going on.
There was a lot of thoseactually.

Tim (16:52):
Baccarat makes no sense to me.
It makes no sense.

Chad (16:59):
So there's like a you know in Vegas gives a shit, Just
walk in, walk out, whatever theykind of like guard the entrance
and exit to kind of like seewho's coming in and out, and I
think there was like a metaldetector in some of them.
Whatever, that's fine, we're in, and then it's just so quiet.
There's not dings and likesirens going off, it's just very
quiet and everyone's like.
A lot of them are like personalcomputers and you just see

(17:22):
people like looking like they'reworking, they like they look
like they're typing like whatare you doing?
like I thought we were here tolike, have fun.
They don't have any alcohol onthe casino floor.
They have red bull.
You can get free red bull, umand snacks, but yeah, it was
just so awkward.
It just it's a weird.
We did a little bit of gamblingbut it just felt very strange,
right, but they had a little oldtown.

(17:44):
You know, it's nothing like oldtown Vegas, but if you think
about something that's a littlebit cheaper and a little bit
like more divey, then that'swhat it was.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
OK.

Chad (17:53):
So it was kind of reminiscent of Fremont or
whatever.
But we go and we find this barand it was around six o'clock
and the bartender or waitress,she was like it's happy hour.
We're like all right, perfect.
What does that mean?
As we're looking at the menuand she said, well, you roll for
your drink.
If you beat me, then you don'tpay.

(18:15):
If I beat you, you pay thehappy hour price.
And I'm like this is the worstbusiness idea of all time.
Either way I'm paying cheaperdrinks, but half the time I
don't have to pay for a drink atall, right.
And so we're like trying toverify because it didn't seem
right.
Like I feel like a smarterbusiness idea would be like full

(18:35):
price if I win or half price ifyou win, something where we're
still paying, right.
So we got three drinks a piece.
I think we ended up gettingabout 12 shots and we paid for
two drinks and two shots.
I love it.
We got $100 of drinks for free.
The girl looked like she wasupset.
Like I hope she doesn't getfired.
She just kept losing.

(18:56):
She just kept losing and itwasn't even the first drink, it
was every single drink.
You play for it.
She's gone.
We gave her a big tip like wedidn't know what to do, like you
don't even you don't tip there,but I just felt awful was this
bar like inside the hotel or wasit part of?
uh no, it's, it's part of like.
There's this old town wherethey've got the portuguese
restaurants and and some stuffand it's it's close to you know,

(19:20):
like the casinos and stuff, butit's about a half mile walk.

Bencjones (19:22):
Okay, so it was a standalone place.
Yeah, so they're just losingmoney.
I got, I got a better idea.

Chad (19:27):
However, I will say at nine o'clock the place got
fucking packed and their normalprices were not cheap, so they
might've lost money on us, butthey're definitely making money.

Tim (19:39):
But it's only during like happy hour six to nine yeah
that's okay, okay, I got abetter idea okay so you roll the
dice and you pay whatever thedice is that's a great idea yeah
, it's.
Uh, it's a dollar.
You know dollar 20, like a twowould be.
You know 23 would be 30.

Chad (19:52):
I've never seen someone lose as much as this nice girl
lost at dice.
But yeah, it was fun, it was agood time came in with the hot
hand sometimes, you know, luckjust runs out man yeah, yeah uh,
but yeah, that was it just that.
And then, yeah, nba classestrying to catch up and wrap up
and I'll be done in may 9th andthen really focused on the

(20:14):
wedding.
This summer.
That's it been busy.
What about you, timothy?

Tim (20:19):
no, that's all I got.

Chad (20:22):
Just a defeated.

Tim (20:26):
I am defeated, but I do want to pose a question for you.
Okay, I was thinking about this.
You ever go into the bathroomnot to do anything other than
you're just going in thebathroom.
You got to go to the bathroom,whatever, but you start thinking
about stuff, yeah, okay, so Iwas in the bathroom at work and
there was obviously somebody inthe handicap stall, and so I
want to pose this question.
I want to see where everybodylies.

(20:53):
Okay, so you're in a publicrestroom, in a very public place
, it's very busy, and you usethe, the handicap stall, and
while you're in there, you uh,you get a little jiggle on the
door and someone's trying to get, you're like, oh, it's occupied
, you know.
And you look and you seewheelchair wheels.
So what's your move when you'redone?
I've seen a video of this exactsame thing happening.
And you look and you seewheelchair wheels.
So what's?

Chad (21:05):
your move when you're done .
I've seen a video of this exactsame thing happening one time
and it was a pretty dumb video.
To answer your question, Iwould just get out after I do my
business and say I'm sorry, theother one was taken.
I'm just going to sit there andstare at you.
The other one was taken.

Tim (21:21):
I had to go.
So me personally, I'm going toact it up a little bit.
Of course you are.

Chad (21:27):
I'm going to drag my leg.
You're a bad person.

Tim (21:29):
I'm going to drag my leg until I get out of the bathroom
and far enough away, and thennever go back Unusual suspects
Style yeah.

Bencjones (21:38):
Start losing the limp every step.

Chad (21:42):
That's exactly what I'm going to do, was it Kaiser?

Tim (21:45):
Soze that shit, yeah, kaiser.

Bencjones (21:46):
Soze.

Tim (21:47):
I'm going to, I'll get better.
Okay, you know.
All right, but I'm going to.
I'm going to ham it up a littlebit, Cause that's the man I
feel so bad.

Chad (21:55):
Ben, what would you do?

Bencjones (21:56):
Okay, Well, number one.
Let's just all be very clear.

Chad (22:06):
Everybody uses the handicap.
Well, yeah, 100, because it'slarger, more comfortable, right
stretch out.
You know, ah, take off yourpants, wait what?
What are y'all?

Tim (22:11):
doing.

Bencjones (22:11):
We had that conversation but if the other
ones occupied, you're gonna useit.

Tim (22:15):
I'm gonna say it's not occupied, like the other ones
weren't occupied.
You just chose that.
That's what I'm getting.
I did that today at work.

Chad (22:20):
I just grabbed the bigger stall.
I know my floor very well.
I going to be the mostcomfortable stall if it's open,
okay.

Bencjones (22:27):
That's fine.
I feel like if you saw thewheels, whatever, and someone's
trying to get in me personally,I think I would use it if the
other ones were occupied,because honestly, I don't think
about it to be honest know Idon't really go.

Tim (22:46):
let me go straight to that one I've got another idea this,
this might be, this might be themove all right?

Chad (22:52):
I doubt it no, no, no.

Tim (22:55):
It's gonna require you having to get on the floor,
though.

Chad (22:57):
See you already hear me out in the bathroom.

Tim (22:59):
They're jiggling, then whatever, and you, you know, the
stall next to you is empty, soyou slip, slip under the door,
go to that stall, flush thetoilet, you come out and you're
like man assholes, right, thatis such a bad idea.

Chad (23:12):
They're going to hear you, you're going to be filthy and
that door's still going to belocked, so tell me how that's
going to work.
That is not the move?

Bencjones (23:21):
They don't know it's you Listen?

Chad (23:26):
I honestly don't.
They don't, they don't know.
It's you listen?

Tim (23:28):
I honestly don't ever think of it as the handicap stall.

Chad (23:29):
You just think of it as the nice bigger nice stall, the
bigger than the premium.
First class stall hey, if it'sopen in the same price, I'm
gonna take first class everytime.
All right that I don't thinkI'm a bad person, for that does.
No, I feel like I'm not theminority in this.

Tim (23:44):
I'm gonna tell you that 90 of my day is me thinking about
stuff like this.
Sometimes.
You know, it's just you know,just happened.

Chad (23:50):
I will also say on the worst day I'm in that stall for
three to four minutes.
Worst day I'm in and out,you're in and out it's good man,
I don't.
I don't like spending time inthe restroom.
There's better places to spendyour time in my opinion, some
people settle in.

Bencjones (24:04):
I know they get.
They get the phone out, theystart doing their like, their
taxes, dude I heard a guysnoring the other day at work.

Chad (24:11):
I'm like how long has he been in the big stall?
Because this is, this ispissing me.

Tim (24:16):
I mean I know somebody who, uh who, slips into the bathroom
whenever they don't want to dowork at my job in the office.
You know they slip in there forabout 30 minutes or so.
Take a little nap.

Chad (24:25):
That's wild you know, to each their own right, because if
you're napping, are you bareass?
Are you just sitting is areyour pants getting dirty like
what's?
What's the situation?

Tim (24:33):
well, if you had a rig in your own personal stool if it
had a regular toilet lid.
You don't have to be bare ass,but I feel like you have to be
bare ass on a, on a on a publicbathroom toilet yeah, because
they, because they all have thehalf seat, there is no seat
there, it's just open.
They don't have the little lidthat covers it.
It would be weird to sit therein your pants on an uncovered

(24:54):
toilet.
It's been a really healthyconversation.

Chad (24:58):
I'm glad that we could get into that.

Tim (25:02):
Honestly, my life has been nothing but school here lately
and it's just.
I'm ready to be done.
I feel you.

Bencjones (25:09):
I'm so ready to be done.
Well, may's right around thecorner, so you're you know.

Tim (25:12):
Are you taking summer?
No summer classes other thanthe class that I'm actually in,
but for work.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Hey, Dustin said he can't hear a single from the
chat.

Chad (25:21):
We've got our man from JJTM.
He's like, hey, he can't hear asingle from the chat.
We've got our man from JJTM.
He's like, hey, can't hear athing.
He just want to see yourbeautiful faces.
Apparently he's a cannibal.

Tim (25:32):
He's seeing the big thumb.
If you haven't ever seen acorpse grinder, he's the singer
for Cannibal Corpse.
He looks like a giant thumb.
He's headbang so much that hisneck is just massive.

Chad (25:44):
Dude.

Tim (25:44):
I'm serious man, so much that his neck is just massive
shut up dude.
I'm serious man.
Look him up.
He's actually really sweethearttoo.
He uh does a lot of um uh,charity stuff.
Buys toys every, every, everyyear for christmas he buys toys
for um excellent kids and stuff.

Chad (25:54):
Wave at jjtm wave at dustin that's what you gotta do.
He's probably gone already.

Tim (25:59):
Yeah, he's like so right, that's it.
But what I wanted to get intoand just to let everybody know
we're going to get into, BenjiJones has got a big announcement
he's going to share with usabout some upcoming stuff.
He kind of alluded to that.
We've got some things to askhim and talk to him about.

Chad (26:16):
But I wanted to get into Spoiler alert.
It involves very littleclothing.

Tim (26:25):
So it's going gonna be a good time.
Move on.
I wanted to get into somethingthat stood out to me recently in
in that's been all over themedia.

Bencjones (26:30):
I want to talk about this it's a little bit
controversy, oh shit, um getcanceled.

Tim (26:35):
Yeah, here we go blue origins all female crew okay, I
want to talk about.
I want.
I want to talk about this for asecond.
So if you don't know, if you'relistening to us, Blue Origin is
Jeff Bezos' little rocket thing.

Chad (26:49):
Little rocket thing, way to downplay a whole space
program, his little rocketprogram that sends people to
space.

Tim (27:00):
I feel like Jeff is more into the space tourism.
It seems like.

Chad (27:04):
Oh yeah, for sure it's moneymaker, Come on.

Tim (27:06):
Yeah, all right.
So Blue Origin's latestsuborbital so not even like a
true orbit, but a suborbitalspace tourism flight.

Chad (27:13):
You just keep downplaying the shit out of it.
I'm going to downplay the shitout of this.

Tim (27:17):
Flight featuring an all-female crew, including Katy
Perry, and I don't know ifyou've seen any of the the news
media or any of the stuff that'sgoing on there, but people are
just I mean, ripping into themright yeah, so the crew members
um.
So it launched, uh, may 19th2025.
It was approximately 11 minutes.
It wasn't may 19th was it may19th?

Chad (27:38):
no, that's next month.
It was the.
It was monday, so it had beenlike the 14th.
Yeah, I got the wrong date onthere um approximatelyximately
11 minutes total.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah.

Tim (27:46):
Including maybe about three to four minutes of
weightlessness Launched out ofWest Texas near the ship.
Whatever it was, the Shepardrocket, but down.

Chad (27:54):
I didn't know it was out of Texas.
Yeah, blue Origin's got a spotdown there.
Oh, okay, nice.
Crew members were katie perryright, yeah, um, that's, that's
the that's the big one that's abig one.
Yeah, yeah, oprah's best friendwas on there.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, gail, gail, cbs gail was on there um yeah.

Bencjones (28:12):
So I mean, there's just there's some other ladies
that we don't care about, justjust a whole spaceship a little
a little tiny spaceship thatbarely made it to space with
some ladies, with some ladies.

Chad (28:21):
Okay, now they could afford going on the spaceship
right.

Tim (28:24):
Yeah, that's where I wanted to get into, not cheap yeah,
but my, the other thing isthey're calling them a crew.
That's what got me like I, Icould care less.
You're rich, I get it.
You're going up in a spaceshipcool, you got the money to do
that.
Um, us poor people will neverget to go.
So, gail, I'm going to space.
Just by the way, gail was, uh,so someone was like talking to
her and she's like they're notgoing to rain on my parade, um,

(28:47):
and then said have you ever goneto space?
Well, no, gail, I have it.
I don't have 200 and somethingthousand dollars.

Chad (28:52):
Is that how much it was?

Tim (28:53):
I don't know it's, it's something, it's gotta be
something that's dropping abucket for them.
Sure, Unless they get something, it was never going to go to
space, right?
But I want to just take asecond on the crew.
So what did?
That was a weird choice ofwords.
What were they crewing?

(29:13):
What were they doing?
To me it's just a little ride.
They took a ride.

Chad (29:18):
Okay, so I am very ignorant to most of this.
The only thing I know is mycoworker.
She was pretty excited about iton Monday.
She's like, hey, we're going togo to lunch.
And she's like, hey, I got towatch this whole spaceship thing
happen.
I'm like all right, do you Boo?

Tim (29:32):
I don't know what you're talking about.
I love seeing rockets fly inspace.

Chad (29:35):
She's like it's an all female.
She said all female cast, it'san all female crew.
She said that like she wasexcited about, like she's and I,
I was like hell yeah, that'sfantastic and that is fantastic.

Tim (29:46):
I am, I am here for that, but right, what did they crew?

Chad (29:51):
that's what I was gonna ask.
Were any of them actuallypiloting?
No, no one.
None of them were pushingbuttons it was all remote
controlled okay, so on the ships.

Tim (29:58):
Nowadays, there doesn't actually need to be pilots at
all no, I mean that sure on likeno, some of them, like for the
space missions, yeah, they needto have because you got to
connect and dock and you mighthave to take control of it and
things like that, but no, thisis like literally, it's uh, it'd
be like uh, the equivalent ofuh riding in your wago or
whatever your we go, whateverthe thing is waymo, waymo, waymo
.

Chad (30:18):
Yeah, I rode a waymo in san francisco I didn't see that.

Tim (30:21):
Yeah, that shit was awesome .
Yeah, so it's the equivalent ofthat.
Or like in your Tesla you justgot in your Tesla, but you want
to say they're passengers.

Bencjones (30:27):
They're passengers as opposed to a crew.

Tim (30:29):
Riders.
I could go for that, Right, youknow something like that.
But to call them a crew, I'mlike what was Katy Perry's role?

Bencjones (30:37):
What if something went?

Tim (30:39):
She was entertainment because apparently she sang, she
sang a little song madeeverybody a little more
comfortable, calmed them down.
She brought a flower, abutterfly, thing A little flower
up there.
Yeah, I saw that yeah.

Chad (30:49):
I don't know what that was .
Gayle King was a whore.

Bencjones (30:53):
Yeah, and she was interpreting alien
communications.
Probably.
I'm surprised, wendy.

Tim (30:59):
Williams wasn't on this.
She's actually not so crazy aswe thought.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Really.

Tim (31:03):
Yeah, she's in this conservatorship and she's being
held hostage now.
That's a whole other thingwe'll have to talk about later.

Chad (31:09):
Okay, Seems the opposite of not crazy.
But okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Bencjones (31:12):
I want to say that this goes back to the very first
launch, where Bezos was likewe're the crew.

Chad (31:20):
Yeah.

Bencjones (31:21):
And so now, anybody who rides in that is going to be
the crew.
Well, it's a selling point too,right, like you can say that
you crewed a spaceship.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
You crewed it.

Chad (31:29):
Right, you were crewing.

Tim (31:30):
Yeah, but so did Buzz Aldrin, hanging out crewing.

Chad (31:32):
And he landed on the moon.
Okay, listen, I don't even havethat big of an issue With being
a crew.
The one video that I saw thatnone of this bothered me.
I thought people were likemaking too big of a deal out of
it.
I'm like this is really cool.

Tim (31:43):
This is a cool thing, right .
It's a bunch of women riding ina spacecraft, right.

Chad (31:48):
But when they came down and they were talking to Katy
Perry and they're like how doesit feel to be one of the first I
don't know 150 astronauts toever go into space?
That was the other thing thatbothered me, because I feel like
that's like saying you're ascientist, you know, because I
feel like that's like sayingyou're a scientist, you know.
It's like you do need some kindof like credentials.

Bencjones (32:06):
None of them are astronauts.
Some training, you know, Likeyou know, you're in the little
machine that goes in a circle.
You're like testing theG-forces and stuff on your face.

Chad (32:13):
I flew in a plane to China .
I never said I piloted that oneFucking pilot.
I never even said I was crew.
How does it feel to be a pilot?
Listen, I'm one of the first Idon't know billion people to
ever crew an aircraft, so I'mfeeling pretty good about it
yeah, I'm just like I read thisand you know, and I'm not.

Tim (32:34):
Whenever I first read this I was like, okay, am I being
sexist?
Like?

Bencjones (32:38):
I asked myself that because I'm sitting there
reading it and I'm sureabsolutely, because you didn't
give a shit about cruise untilthis shit went down.

Tim (32:47):
And then now, you're like no, some people like so.
I never heard.
I like, honestly, I've neverpaid attention to blue origin
other than, like I knew he had arocket.
I never understood, I neverknew that he called them cruise
or anything like that.
Yeah, I didn't even didn't knowthat.
And tell this, and I'm like,and I'm reading the headlines,
it's like first all-female crewgoing into space.
I'm like, oh, that's kind ofcool.
And I'm thinking like it's likeSpaceX, they got the Falcon

(33:08):
Heavy rocket.
And I saw Katy Perry and I'mlike the fuck does she do in
space?

Chad (33:13):
I will say that being famous, you bring a lot of
attention and it's the internet.
A lot of that's going to benegative attention.
When the first three like.
I don't remember I don't evenknow how many people have gone
to space at this point, but Iremember the first three it was
almost like that race.
right, it was like jeff bezosand it was elon musk and it was
the guy from virgin, whateverright yeah, yeah, those three

(33:33):
guys all set out for rockets inlike the same year and I
wouldn't even pay attention,because who gives a shit?
Right, it was just like thiswho's got the bigger dick race
type situation yeah but you know, no one was really that, I
remember was like famous, famous.
Now you got some famous, you gotthat all-female thing behind it
, and so there's a lot ofthere's a lot of hype, and so
people are going to be dicks,and so I think that you saw some

(33:56):
of the dick things that werepeople were poached.
You're like you know what?
That is pretty fucked 100 didnot.

Tim (34:03):
Okay.
The first article I saw was uh,it was just a cnn article
talking about, uh, the space,the flight, right and, and so I
was genuinely curious.
I'm thinking, okay, it's, it'slike a space flight like I, I
thought literally went intoorbit, you know doing some sort
of like little mission thing,came back and I saw it was 11
minutes.
I'm like wait a second here,that's weird and then I I saw

(34:24):
katie perry and I'm like, well,wait a second here, that's weird
.
And then I saw Katy Perry andI'm like, well, I mean, they did
try to send that teacher toouter space at one time.
What yeah, she died.
That was one of the fiascosback in the 80s.

Bencjones (34:36):
The Challenger blew up in 86.

Tim (34:41):
And so it wasn't like out To me, it wasn't out of the
realm that they would.
Maybe a celebrity's going upthere it's the you know guess
whatever to do some sort ofmission.
She's going to participate.
I was like that's cool as shit.
But I saw 11 minutes I was like, well, that's kind of weird.
And then I actually startedkind of understanding what Blue
Origin is and I'm like, oh, theykind of went to the edge of

(35:02):
space, yeah.

Chad (35:03):
That's all it is.
Yeah, yeah, Really that's allyou need.
No, no, no.
It's kind of like going scubadiving.
You go down 30 feet and you'regoing to see what you want to
see Going down any further.
I need to go further.
It's just trying to be anasshole really.
It is, I will say You're goingto lose color.

Bencjones (35:20):
Out of there, just leave.

Tim (35:21):
It is cool though.
I mean it's cool the thoughtprocess of being able to go
commercial space tourism.

Chad (35:29):
I think that's pretty fucking cool If you can see the
edge of Earth to me you're space.

Tim (35:33):
That's pretty legit.
That's pretty cool, it is on mylist.

Chad (35:36):
It is going to become more and more available in the next
10, 20 years and hopefully atsome point I can afford it and
it'll become more affordable.
10, 20 years and hopefully atsome point I can afford it and
it'll become more affordable.
I even saw that in 2027 there'sgoing to be a space hotel, did
you?
Yeah, yeah, I've heard that,yeah and like it's going to be a
whole space, so so my, there'sa lot of.

Tim (35:53):
There's a lot of questions I have about that, but, uh, one
of the one of the things that Idid see was like this this one
space flight used um more co2emissions than, like a human,
any normal person would do intheir entire lifetime.
Yeah, so there's things likethat.
So the environmental impact ofthese little random space tours

(36:15):
and launches or whatever thespace hotel though to me that's
wild They've got to figure out.
How do you combat spaceradiation and all that stuff?
How long are you allowed tostay there in a hotel?
Can I check in?
What?
If I go more than 30 days, youhave to evict me then who works
there?

Bencjones (36:32):
who's working at the space hotel?

Chad (36:34):
yeah, I think it's gonna be like a mexico resort man,
like it's gonna be like you goand they probably have a flight
every day and you can't exceedseven days or something like
that, and you you're going tospend.
We're going to take you on aspacewalk and I don't think
they're going to go like getdangerous with it.
It's literally going to be youin a room and some alcohol
that's overly expensive.

Tim (36:52):
I will tell you who would get dangerous, though, with it
is that Sir Richard Branson, orwhatever?

Chad (36:58):
Oh, he's the version yeah.

Tim (36:59):
He would get dangerous with it.
What do you mean would getdangerous with it?
What do you?

Chad (37:04):
mean dude, he would dude, he'd have all sorts of crazy
excursions.
Yeah, that's true, I'm tellingyou like well, you could do all
the things you could do on thecruise, but up there in space
yeah, you're up there playingspace golf and um you know all
right, bensi, do you ever wantto go to space?

Bencjones (37:17):
like, yeah, yeah, really well, you know, one of
the things about, uh, the planesis the mile high club.
So what do you like?

Tim (37:25):
Yeah, you know where I'm going with this, you know you
can do that in Vegas, Like didyou know that it's $1,000.

Bencjones (37:30):
Oh, there really is a thing you can do.
It's $1,000.

Tim (37:33):
They take you up a mile high.
It's a private plane.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
That's all the pilot does.

Bencjones (37:38):
It comes out.

Chad (37:51):
No, it's made for for this .
Like the pilot has a curtain,he shuts it, he puts on
headphones and you have theplane.
So I mentioned this and I wastold absolutely not.
And I'm like, well, yeah you,you mentioned the wrong person.
I told you.
Now I don't know how many timesI gotta do this absolutely not
so then the question is you knowspace sex, right?

Bencjones (38:01):
I mean, if you're there, you spent the money you
know they've already tested it.

Chad (38:04):
This was a quick turn to really they, they've had to.
They've done all these.

Tim (38:08):
We talked about this recently.
They've done all these spaceyou really talk about.
Two episodes ago we weretalking about it back.
They've done all these, youknow, tests and everything.
Of course they've had to check,like what sexual relations
would be like in space I.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
I guess it's got to be a tet.

Tim (38:25):
It had to have been some sort of scientific study.

Chad (38:27):
They've done you can't get like in space.
I guess it's got to be a tent.
It had to have been some sortof scientific study they've done
.
You can't get pregnant in space, it's a fact.
So, like you're literally yeah,I hear that too.
I don't.
You're going to a space hotel,of course, baby we don't have to
wear a condom.

Bencjones (38:36):
I mean, come on, we're in space, everybody, so
I'm not wearing one.

Chad (38:42):
All right.
How much would you pay for that11-minute rocket ride?

Bencjones (38:46):
Oh well, $1,000 would be, I'd pay $1,000.

Chad (38:53):
That's the max you would pay.

Bencjones (38:54):
I mean I don't have a lot of money.
No, I mean, okay, I'm with you.

Tim (38:57):
Like okay.

Chad (38:58):
so let me ask you this I'm trying to figure out a limit
here, right Like at what pointdoes it become affordable to
where people would want to go?

Tim (39:05):
All right.
So I think okay for me like aonce-in-a-lifetime thing that
I've always wanted to do is tosit courtside and I'm talking
like on the floor, not threerows back, but like I want to be
where the celebrities sit RightOn the floor, not behind the
goal, on the side, yeah, on thefloor, not behind the goal on
the side.
Yeah Well, not Mavs game now,but that's a whole other topic.

Chad (39:30):
But at a professional basketball game We'll go sit
next to Jack Nicholson at Lakersgame 100% Watch a Luka.

Tim (39:34):
Yeah, just one time.

Chad (39:35):
How much would?

Tim (39:35):
that be so expensive.
I looked into courtside ticketsand I found that they were up
on like what's that?
One of those games?

Chad (39:45):
Seat Geek.
Yeah, it was like Seat Geek.

Tim (39:47):
And I think tickets I found , which were like three rows
back under the goal side, wassomething like five grand or
more, and that's resale.

Chad (39:59):
I mean, I think you probably have to have season
tickets, you do.

Tim (40:02):
Yeah.

Chad (40:04):
But yeah, probably what.

Tim (40:05):
Ten grand, maybe, maybe more.
Actually, I saw one.
It was like something like 30grand for a seat.

Bencjones (40:10):
For a seat on the court?

Tim (40:12):
Yeah, and it was ridiculous and I'm like I can't justify
that For my 40th birthday, Icould justify spending maybe
like five grand.
It's like a once in a lifetime.
I'm spending maybe like fivegrand.
It's like a once in a lifetime.
I'm never gonna do this again.
Right, sitting right there onthe court watch a whole
basketball game, I would be butfive thousand just you.

(40:33):
You're sitting, five thousandjust me.
That's fine, you know, I'm okaywith that.

Bencjones (40:34):
I think you get free popcorn I think, you do, I think
actually I

Tim (40:37):
think food is honestly worth it right um, so for space,
you know, like I don't know,people pay like uh 10 grand to
go summit.
Uh, mount kilimanjaro, yeah, um, and things like that, and
that's kind of like a once in alifetime thing.
I think maybe ten thousanddollars I it'd be like a
one-time deal, I saved up for it.
This is what I'm doing, right Imean a thousand well.

(41:00):
so before like the whole uh,russian ukraine war thing going
on, you could go to Russia and Iwant to say it was like an
all-inclusive package for like$10,000.
You got to go up in a Russianlike fifth-gen fighter and go do
acrobats and stuff and actuallyget to fly it a little bit.
That's kind of cool andincluded your hotel and stuff

(41:22):
no-transcript.

Bencjones (41:23):
Okay, but if you guys were billionaires, like money
wasn't an issue throwing down$200,000.

Chad (41:31):
No, big deal.

Bencjones (41:32):
You would do it.

Tim (41:33):
I think I would want to be a little more responsible,
though I don't know.
I feel like I would be a badbillionaire because I would just
blow my money on stupid shit.

Bencjones (41:42):
That's not a stupid thing, man Go to space.

Tim (41:44):
That is like 11 minutes though I feel like it's for your
personal brand.

Chad (41:52):
Look how much publicity katie perry is getting like just
because of this.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
It almost it's a tax write-off, probably for her to
be honest with you, like so many, celebrities make it about
charity.

Chad (41:57):
You know, even at this point in my life which I also am
not like full of money, but ifthey got down to like 50 grand,
I'd be saving, I'd be saving, Iwould try to go to space for 50
grand.
Yeah, yeah.

Tim (42:08):
For that 11 minutes.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
For that 11 minutes $50,000 for 11 minutes.

Tim (42:12):
Yeah, and maybe I just can't fathom that because I'm
poor.

Chad (42:17):
Well, me too that could be it.
I mean, you have to cut back oneverything else in life that
you enjoy, sure, sure, for avery long time very long time.

Tim (42:24):
Well, I mean you say that but like, honestly, if you had a
house you could just take likea you know second mortgage out.

Chad (42:29):
Yeah, but like, realistically, you don't want to
like have your cake and eat ittoo, right, you're going to have
to like save somewhere.

Bencjones (42:41):
So it'd be like no more traveling.

Tim (42:42):
That's a bit more in the house no more for 11 minutes
I've got enough equity in thehouse, I could probably pull
that equity out and go fly thisBlue Origin thing.
It's going to take me about 30years to pay it off, right, but
I mean it's doable if it wasreally that worth it.

Chad (42:54):
You can't take that money with you when you die, so
actually that's probably abetter bet than me trying to
save.
It's just like fucking put iton credit.

Bencjones (43:10):
Who cares?
You could default and filebankruptcy.

Chad (43:11):
Yeah, easy, it's fine.
Would you pay $50,000 to seethe Titanic To go?

Tim (43:13):
underwater To go underwater If it was 100% safe and not
going to implode on itself.

Bencjones (43:16):
We saw, how that happened.

Tim (43:17):
Yeah, I would be more in tune to do something like that
for that kind of money.
Or if I was going to go intospace, I would want to go into
actual you want at least oneorbit.
Maybe two Couple orbits, callit good.
Yeah, for that kind of money,yeah.

Chad (43:40):
Did it orbit an entire orbit in 11 minutes?
I feel like that's very short.

Bencjones (43:43):
No, it just went straight up and then it came
right back down.
Yeah, hit the edge of space.

Tim (43:47):
Yeah, yeah.

Bencjones (43:50):
I don't know.

Tim (43:51):
That's the move.
That's a tough like how muchare you willing to spend for
something that you truly always?

Chad (43:55):
wanted to do.
I don't think I'd pay more than$10,000 for the fucking Titanic
thing, and I don't even care tosee the Titanic.
I mean just to go down in asubmarine and be able to, like,
control it.
I'd pay $10,000.
I'm not even interested in theTitanic thing.

Tim (44:07):
Well, I could get you a sub for less than that that you
could probably control, for lessthan $10,000.

Bencjones (44:13):
Yeah, it'll stay.
Get a rent one.
I know a guy Sure Makes him outof propane tanks.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Nice, very safe.

Tim (44:21):
Yeah, so now I do have just a couple questions I want to
ask, like before we move on toour guest here.
But we don't have time.

Chad (44:30):
So imagine, imagine like a real turbulent reentry, uh-huh.

Tim (44:35):
So what's Katie doing?
Is she breaking out in the songlike trying to calm everybody
down, or is she, you know,terrified herself?

Chad (44:41):
I mean she kissed the ground when she got home, like
she was that you know, andpeople are like really, yeah, I
felt that was over the top too.

Tim (44:49):
But have you seen the other controversy?
People are saying that theyactually didn't go to space, so
there's a whole conspiracytheory on this.
Now, okay, here we go.
So one of the pictures or oneof the videos when they landed,
they were able to open the doorfrom the inside, and supposedly,
that's like not, you shouldn'tbe able to open it from the
inside, dude it inside.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
And supposedly that's like not, you shouldn't be able
to open it from the inside.

Chad (45:08):
Dude, it's a passenger plane.
That's kind of what I thoughttoo.

Tim (45:10):
It's gonna have to open from the inside but the door is
already open and they kind ofshut it.
And then, uh, jeff went overthere with this like key looking
thing and stuck it in there andthen opened it like there's
just I don't know do you thinkthey went to space?

Bencjones (45:23):
probably, or to the edge of space.
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, I, Imean I think To where they went,
yeah.

Tim (45:28):
They went to where they went, I agree.

Chad (45:30):
I don't think that there's a legitimate conspiracy.

Tim (45:33):
I think I would rather spend money.
I think I'd have more enjoymentgoing in a hot air balloon, oh
I think, than maybe going tospace.
That's way cheaper.
It is way cheaper.

Chad (45:44):
It's fun.

Tim (45:45):
Yeah, you've done it.

Chad (45:47):
Yeah, with my parents in Egypt and it was considerably
cheaper than it was here, but Ithink it was like 125, 150 a
person.

Tim (45:55):
See, that's cheap and you just float around man, that's
nice.

Chad (45:57):
Yeah, it was awesome, it's peaceful and we got like good
views of like excavation sitesand temples and stuff like in
the desert.

Tim (46:13):
It's pretty neat, yeah, so I think this was like a whole uh
publicity stunt, just to getmore attention to blue origin,
and they should have did it lastmonth for the women's month
number one.

Bencjones (46:17):
Well, sure, oh yeah, I think that yeah, but then you
know, katie perry, her schedulewas busy and so she had a lot
going on.

Tim (46:20):
At least give them some button to push, and then you
could call them a crew, likethey launch it I mean from what
heard.

Chad (46:27):
I don't know where I heard this, but I'm pretty sure that
they open the door from theinside.
So maybe crew, that's a thing.

Tim (46:33):
But everybody gets a key.
They all have to turn the keyIf they open the door that's a
thing they all have tosimultaneously push the button
yeah, and then it launches.

Chad (46:41):
Could you imagine just sitting there like it's a decoy
button button that does nothing.

Tim (46:49):
No, no, no, look at me, it actually does something, but
you're getting pissed offbecause we're like on three and
nobody can hit it.
Yeah, you're just like stuckthere on the thing you have to
actually, okay, go ahead andpush the other button.

Chad (46:57):
How awesome would it be if they had a button that
literally just like made someweird noise back at like the
control?

Tim (47:03):
center or whatever, and they're just like haha, fuckers.

Chad (47:05):
And they're just like pressing a button and it just, I
don't know that would annoypeople.
That'd be fun to me.

Tim (47:10):
It feels like I'm almost like like one of those uh, what
that's, uh, what was that?
I think you should leave.
I'm thinking like this is likea whole sketch that he would end
up doing, you know has thisever happened to you like I I
think I've said this before.

Chad (47:25):
I think there's this concept that I have for a
reality TV show, and it is toattract people that want to go
to space and then you put themthrough this excruciating
training process.
You get them actual trainingfor space.

Tim (47:42):
I've seen this?
No, no, it fucking is man.

Chad (47:46):
No, Hold on, wait.
This is the twist.
So then you put them on arocket ship and you send them to
space.
But this is all fake.
Like you're in a studio.

Tim (47:55):
It's 100% real.
I've seen this.

Chad (47:57):
This is not real.

Tim (47:58):
It's 100.

Chad (47:59):
Yes, this is not a thing.
It is a thing.
And so they like I'll find itOkay.
And I'm thinking like theyshake the room, they make like
the windows look like TV screensand make it look like you're in
space.

Tim (48:10):
This is exactly a thing.
No way they pulled this wholeprank on these people.
They did.

Bencjones (48:16):
This sounds familiar, Like yeah.

Tim (48:18):
I think subconsciously you saw this.
It was on.

Bencjones (48:20):
Fox or something over the summer.
I'm pretty annoyed by this.
If it's real.

Tim (48:32):
I'm going gonna find it.
I'll find it.
I won't find it right now,while we're in the show, but I'm
gonna find it because I I sawthis.
I was like this is fuckinggreat, like it was the best
thing ever.
And then that then, and thenwhen they land, um, there was an
alien.
Oh, wow, okay so they did thiswhole thing and it freaked
people out.

Bencjones (48:42):
That's the twist.
Yeah, you bring an alien at theend.
He was just going to probepeople.

Tim (48:47):
That's what his.
I'm the alien.
It's a thing.
It's a thing.
I saw it.

Bencjones (48:57):
It does sound familiar.
I think you're right.
I think this was a Fox Summerthing, like a couple years ago,
five years ago.

Tim (49:07):
Alright, I want to get into .
Uh, we got mr bency jones hereyeah and if you heard earlier um
while he was, uh holy fuck it'sa thing, yeah, why he?
Was.
I told you why he was doing,why he's doing hot yoga.
Um they, they're in yoursubconscious.

Bencjones (49:26):
That's what it is I swear you probably that's that's
, fucking that's a good name.

Chad (49:31):
It's a great.
It's a great name I would havepicked, like fake space, you
know.

Tim (49:35):
Yeah, space cadets look at this fucking space cadet.
So good, um, if you heard, uh,mr, uh, ben c jones, here he, uh
, he said while he's doing hotyoga they're cheering him on and
saying way to go, ben.

Bencjones (49:52):
So first question is that your name is not Bensie
Jones?
Well, I mean, that's my stagename.
Oh well, for those who don'tknow.

Tim (49:59):
Spoiler, how'd you pick out your stage name?
It's funny.

Bencjones (50:02):
Yeah, dude, I tell this story all the time.
I guess I didn't tell it to youguys before.

Tim (50:06):
I don't remember it story all the time.
Uh, I guess I didn't tell it toyou guys before.
I don't remember it?

Bencjones (50:09):
yeah, I don't think I asked.
I don't.
Yeah, I don't think you guysasked before.
Um, well, basically I was inthe studio, I was working with,
uh, sarah sellers.
We were doing some pop stuffand sarah, she used to be on
american idol a couple yearsback and we were working on some
stuff and I brought my brotherin and my brother and I also
brought my friend Picasso.
So my brother and Picasso, theywere in this group called PPT

(50:30):
back in the day and anyways,both rappers and they weren't
doing anything.
So, like, dude, come on in, man, just you know we'll be cool.
And Picasso was there and he'swatching me, you know, and I'm
just kind of like you know,telling the engineer oh, we need
to do this, we need to do that,whatever.
And he's like damn Ben, you'relike producing your ass off.

Chad (50:51):
You're like Quincy Jones and he goes okay, and so he's a
C Jones.

Bencjones (50:55):
Quincy Jones and he's like he's a rapper, so
immediately just goes Ben CJones we all looked at each
other like, oh, that's a fuckingcool name fantastic yeah and

Speaker 2 (51:07):
and the rest was Ben.

Bencjones (51:08):
C Jones was born at that moment.

Tim (51:09):
yeah, so the reason why I ask that is I came across a
video talking about the countryartist Conway Twitty and he came
up with his name.
He was racking his brain tryingto figure out this name or
whatever, and he literally justlooked at where he's from, which
is like around Memphis area,and saw in Arkansas there's a

(51:30):
Conway, arkansas.
So he's like okay.
And then he found Twitty, Texas, and then Conway Twitty.

Chad (51:37):
Put it together.
Yeah, love it.

Tim (51:39):
Nothing special, right?
It just happened to come thatway, and then he's known as
Conway Twitty.
All right, so you've got a newalbum coming out.

Bencjones (51:48):
Yeah.

Tim (51:51):
Via Amplify 817, right.

Bencjones (51:53):
Yeah, shout out, amplify 817.
They're going to be exclusivelyputting this album out.

Tim (51:58):
That's awesome, and when does the album actually drop on
their streaming?

Bencjones (52:06):
So supposedly it's supposed to be May 23rd okay so
next month wow.

Tim (52:11):
So we're looking at may 23rd and you get an album
release show in june 13th yes,correct okay, and that's gonna
be at the post.
I'm going through my notes herenow.
You had several, several peoplecollaborating on there, right?
So how did that all come about?

Bencjones (52:26):
as far as as the album.

Tim (52:27):
Getting these artists to collaborate with you on this
album.

Bencjones (52:31):
Did you?

Tim (52:32):
seek them out.

Bencjones (52:32):
I did, yeah, these are guys that I've worked with
before.
So traditionally I kind of workon my albums by myself and then
I'll occasionally pull peoplein.
I'm not a really good drummer,so I can find a drummer for some
stuff and I'll pull them in.
And then when I play live, I'mnot a really good drummer, so I
can find a drummer for somestuff and I'll pull them in and

(52:53):
then when I play live, I havelike a full band Right.
So one of the things that Iwanted to do was to actually
capture, I guess, a moment,because I've been working with
these guys now for the lastcouple of years.
I want to have something whereyou know we all would record a
song together.
So the 817 Day show that we did.

(53:14):
I was able to get all thoseguys on this record.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Okay.

Bencjones (53:19):
And part of it was just like I knew that some
things were changing.
We're kind of going through achange with the drummer, so he
got a job working for Adobe andI was I was like man, I really
want to get him on the albumbecause I just want to have this
, this moment where I just have,you know, all the guys from the
band for the last couple yearson this record.
So I was able to pull it offand so that's part.

(53:40):
that's like the majority of thepeople right there gotcha it's
those guys, and then there's acouple other guys that I brought
in that I found on like Fiverr.

Chad (53:48):
Nice, really.

Bencjones (53:49):
Yeah, to do, like you know, bongos and drums, and I
got a guy that I use who doessteel string, and I've used him
a couple times.

Tim (53:56):
So how does that all work out?
I mean, you send them kind oflike this is what.
These are the tracks here.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah.

Tim (54:03):
And they just kind of come up with their little thing and
send it back and you kind of goback and forth.
We've used Fiverr before to dosome cartoon pictures for us.
Yeah, random stuff, yeah.

Bencjones (54:14):
It's been it's.
When I first started, it washit and miss.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Okay.

Bencjones (54:17):
Like you'd hire these guys and like some of the guys,
it would just be horrible.
And then some of the stuffyou're like, oh, this is great.
You know I love this great, youknow I love this, um, and then
so the ones that you love, youkeep and you keep going back
with those guys and the onesthat you hate.

Tim (54:31):
You're like all right, well , good luck.
Yeah, all right.
So when we first met um, I feellike that was right at uh.
Just one gun came out.

Chad (54:44):
It's 2019 that's when we had a playlist.
It was like right after we hadour first amplify 817 playlist
right, so you just put bintijones on.
I think it was the opening, oneof the first few tracks and we
had not to be quite honest withyou, listened to you at all
until that point and and we fellin love like that, that album
you know.

Tim (55:03):
So that was, that was 2019, right, that came out in 2019,.

Bencjones (55:06):
Yeah, but I'm actually class of 2022,.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
I think for the Amplify 817.

Tim (55:18):
It was three years later.
All right, yeah, I'm trying toget my timeline.
When we did our playlist, itprobably was yeah, right around
2022.

Bencjones (55:25):
So 2022 is when I came on the show.

Tim (55:28):
Yeah, there we go okay there you go amplify 817,
bringing music to people.
You know I mean absolutely nowlistening to just one gun in
that that era of of ben c jones,and we were able to listen to
um.
By the way, I shared the shit.

Bencjones (55:42):
I'm just kidding and I was like, don't share, I
shared the shit out of it.

Tim (55:46):
No, um, we got to listen to the, to the new album, and I
feel like, um, listening to yourolder stuff, there's always
this kind of like the way I Ilook at just one gun is.
It sounds like it should havebeen in the soundtrack for, like
baby driver or oceans 11 orsomething like that.

(56:07):
And this album carries thatkind of classic-ish 70s, 80s
kind of vibe to it that remindedthere's a lot of songs I was
listening to and I thought ofQuentin Tarantino movies that
just kind of played in my head.
I was like, oh, this would begood.
There was one song I think itwas first the first track I

(56:29):
envisioned it being played in uhon uh quentin tarantino's movie
, jackie brown, which is one ofmy, one of my favorites um but
it is very, it's very different,but there is some.
I mean you can tell it's benziejones right so this evolution
from that to this, um, what arewe seeing here?

Bencjones (56:49):
well, there's, I think with all artists you kind
of go unless you're acdc, rightwhere it's just like the same
thing on every album uh, you gothrough, you go through a change
and um so with with thisevolution of ben c Jones.
It's just kind of where I wantto go.
I want the songs to be a littlebit more yeah, 70s, 80s.

(57:14):
I mean I try to keep it towhere it was, like kind of the
some of it, a theme, but ofcourse I failed at that, so it's
a little bit all over the place.
I mean, I've got people sayinglike some of the stuff sounds
like Paul Simon and then likeI'm like, yeah, could I could
see that for one of the songs.
Um, and then some of the stuffsounds like pink floyd and I'm
like, so I got that on the.

(57:35):
Uh, I'm like, yeah with the thepink uh sky, pink sky or pink

Tim (57:39):
fly so I got pink floyd kind of vibe on pink fly yeah
but not just pink flo Floyd, butlike a little bit of Zeppelin,
uh, just that kind of.
We're getting kind ofpsychedelic a little bit, yeah,
but we're not quite to thatlevel.
Um, it was definitely somethingthat you know.
One of my favorite albums isDark Side of the Moon by Pink

(58:01):
Floyd.

Chad (58:01):
I put it on.

Tim (58:02):
I can just sit there and listen.
It's very airy and open andkind of this like that's a
facial thing right.
So that's what I was gettingfrom listening to your album was
this kind of like very airy,very open, very spatial, but
also a little bit like kind ofteetering on the psychedelic.
But then it would, that wouldgo away and then we'd come back

(58:23):
into it.
So there was just there wasdefinitely like this whole vibe
to it, and there were a couplesongs that I was like everything
had this like kind of same feel, but you hit, you threw in like
two songs and I think that thetwo that had the different album
or a little artwork, thatdidn't.
It didn't quite feel like therest all right.

(58:44):
Yeah, it's very different it'svery different and so, um, I'm
listening to it and it's kind ofone of those things.
It feels like you're just kindof shaking things up a little
bit in the album and getting youkind of back into more maybe
active listening or something.

Bencjones (58:57):
But like, yeah, it's just good to have variety and
that's something I've alwaysdone is do a lot of different,
you know, genre mixing thingsand whatnot.
So, yeah, yeah, probably Inoticed things which kind of has

(59:17):
that kind of a tropical vibe toit Right, and then violet,
which is more I don't know, kindof has a little bit of a
country vibe to it.
I mean that does have steelstring on it, Whereas the rest
of it of it has a little bit ofa country vibe to it.
I mean, that does have stillstring on it, Whereas the rest
of it, yeah, it's a little bitmore, it's a little different.

Tim (59:32):
Right, yeah, okay.
So you recorded this at NileCity Sound?
I did not, okay, no, no, yeah,I record all my stuff at my
house, all your stuff, okay,okay.

Bencjones (59:42):
So I have a home studio, I record it all at the
house and I produce it all thereand I did a little bit with
Pete Waringa.
He's got a weird last name andI do the vocals with him.
But other than that?

Tim (59:58):
yeah.
So you're doing this all athome?
Yeah, Putting it out there andthen are you mixing it?
I don't mix, yeah.

Bencjones (01:00:06):
I don't mix.
This was mixed by Ty Macklinand Kent Stump out of Dallas and
Ty's out of Fort Worth.
So, yeah, I would love to learnhow to mix.
I think that's the next level.
I could probably even get somebusiness mixing some other
people's stuff if I could figureit out, but I just haven't

(01:00:27):
actually taken that step yet whosaid man I can't think of his
name now Paul Rubin, Paul Rubin.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Mm-hmm.

Tim (01:00:38):
That's who.
He's got the life right, thisguy.
He sits there and he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
He said he doesn't know anything.

Tim (01:00:43):
Rick Rubin, there you go.
Paul Rubin.
Rick Rubin Doesn't knowanything.
Paul Rick Rubin, rick Rubin,there you go, paul Rubin, rick.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Rubin Doesn't know anything.
Paul Rubin isn't that Pee Weeyeah.

Tim (01:00:50):
Rick Rubin.
He doesn't know anything aboutmusic, really, and he just knows
what he likes and he listensand does that.
It takes a very special personjust to be able to.
Yeah, he's like we need totweak this here.

Chad (01:01:05):
We need to tweak this here .
We need to.
I've got this.
I don't.
I never really known what itwas, but like I have this love
for full sound, you know what Imean.
Like something that, like HansZimmer, is one of my favorite,
because, like, whenever youwatch one of those movies, it's
just there's so much sound andit just makes you feel right.
And like I noticed that wheneverI listen to music, whenever I

(01:01:25):
was in Iceland and our buddyLance was making me listen to
metal music I loved atmosphericrock and metal because it was
just so full and so much goingon and I feel like I get so much
of that from your album and Idon't know if that was.
Is that all you?
Is that coming from the mixing,or is that just kind of part of
that sound that you're wantingto go for?

I was kind of going for like a fuller, fuller sound,
that kind of in you know, forseveral of the songs that just
like engulfs you, you know likewhere you?
There's just nowhere to run,there's nowhere to hide and um,
yeah, just trying to like expandand just you know, just uh just
be an artist and uh just takeit to where it goes.
And I tried some uminstrumental songs on this album

(01:02:06):
.
They're great I was inspired byKarangaban.

Chad (01:02:08):
Yeah.

I was like genius, so like you just get rid of like
no vocals, no lyrics, you don'thave to worry about any of that
stuff, it's just the music.
I was like, all right, I'mgoing to do that for a couple
tracks.

Chad (01:02:19):
Can I be honest with you, I could listen to an hour's
worth of that, like I feel likesometimes I'm at work and I want
to just concentrate, andsometimes it's that sound that
puts your mind at ease and getsyou into this focus mode.
And you, but you don't want tolisten to lyrics because you're
going to concentrate on thelyrics, and so it's just that
sound that just takes your brainand melts it and makes it

(01:02:41):
better.
I don't know.
But yeah, like I love I mean Ilove the ones with lyrics too.
You're a beautiful singer, butfor certain occasions I just
love that.
There's two of those right.

I do have two of them .
Yeah, my brother goes.
Man, you should have just madethe whole album, just that.

Chad (01:02:57):
I definitely.
I still would have been in, andyou know what?

Tim (01:03:02):
There's been some bands that have done that, where they
released just the instrumentalas a as another album and dude.
I absolutely love that.
Sometimes I you know, sometimesI want to just hear the
background music and I don'twant to listen to the lyrics
necessarily.
I want it as just kind of likemy yeah what's the word?
Uh, like my theme music for theday I'm walking around, I just

(01:03:24):
have you know, whatever, um, andsometimes that that's.
That's really nice, I mean, andit's an opportunity to to put
other things out too, um, if youso choose to go down that route
, um well, shout out to uh, tovol thompson on drums and glenn
wallace on the guitar, whohelped me out with those songs,
yeah, so I've got, uh, let's see, uh, we've got you doing vocals

(01:03:44):
, acoustic guitar, electricguitar, bass, drum, synth organ,
just a little bit of everything.

Yeah, all this stuff.

Tim (01:03:51):
Glenn Wallace electric guitar.
Tony Cox electric guitar.
Mike Eisen.

Eisen.

Tim (01:03:56):
Eisen Bass, claudio Zavala drums, vol Thompson on drums as
well, eve.

Roger.

Tim (01:04:07):
Roger Vocals, Reggie Duncan steel string that's one of your
fiber people okay, ray solothat's.
That's a fun name yeah, likethat electric guitar, and then,
uh, alejo, did I say that right?

I think so.
He's one of the guys that Ihired also okay also.
Uh, I left off the z win z winokay, and uh, okay, and he's in
a country band called HatcherCounty, but I had him play keys.
He played keys at the 817 gig,oh, okay.
So I had him play keys on acouple songs that we did.

Chad (01:04:37):
What's your favorite song on the new album?

My favorite song is the one that nobody likes, which
is Violet.
I just love that song.
I love the guitar parts.
I just love that song.
I love the guitar parts.
I just get into it.
And I ask everybody else you'relike, oh dude, no Pink Fly, or
she's Fancy.
She's Fancy's my favorite yeah,all we really needed was a
chance.
They're like, oh, we like thosesongs.
I'm like, all right, everyone'sa little bit different, yeah.

Tim (01:05:00):
What makes that one, though ?
Why that song?
What?
What is it about it that youjust, I guess when you were
recording, you're like this, isit I?

don't know, it's like the lyrics.
I feel proud of the lyrics onthat one and then I like the
cool guitar part and guitar manythat's on it and I really feel
like it kind of ramps up withthe organ at the very end.
I was just really proud of itand I just really like it.
I think it's a fun tune.

Tim (01:05:25):
Sometimes your favorite isn't everybody else's favorite,
and that's okay yeah, I thinkit's funny like, uh, we've
talked about this with likedoing social media videos, and
you put all this effort into avideo and you're like, oh, this
is gonna be great, it's gonna,we're gonna get all the views
and it's a flop.
And then you got a video of youjust like look at that dog over
there trash you put on theinternet, yeah, and all of a
sudden it just goes viral andyou're like the fuck for it.

Okay, the one EA, the one you don't care about.
That's the one that people arelike.

Tim (01:05:51):
Yes, maybe it is that Maybe it's just because it's not
necessarily it's low.
I mean, you put your heart andsoul into everything, whatever
you're singing, making music,but maybe it's just because it's
not.
Yeah, I don't know.

Chad (01:06:05):
But you also, as an artist , I'm sure have like your love
for the amount of work and timeand, like you said, the lyrics
and things like that, the thingsthat you notice that someone
else might not right, and so,yeah, everyone's got the
different perspective, but Imean, I like that one too, but
it's yeah, it was not myfavorite, yeah but you know.
I'm sure my favorite isdifferent than Tim's favorite.

Tim (01:06:24):
Yeah, Well, I mean Fancy.
Yeah, she's Fancy.

Chad (01:06:27):
Damn it.
We have the same favorite.
She's Fancy was mine.

Got some cool stuff coming with she's Fancy.
I don't want to announce it yet, but yeah it's supposed to be
on an album coming up here.

Tim (01:06:38):
Well, I mean it's going to be on your album.

Well, it's obviously on my album.
Be on another littlecollaboration thing.
I can't get into too muchdetail about it yet.

Chad (01:06:48):
Are you going to be like a feature or like a sound clip?

I'm not the feature, it's just a collection of songs
that should be hopefully outhere at the end of the summer.

Tim (01:07:00):
Tell me about this 91.7 KXT Homegrown music show.

Yeah, that's going to be fun.
It's going to be over at thePost on June 13th.
Uh, we got uh reicher hallopening the.
He'll be doing like a coolacoustic set and then dave cave
uh will be playing uh with hisfull band and then my band, and
then reagan beard will beclosing it out and she'll be

(01:07:24):
doing a kind of a cool downcloser yeah, now are they going
to be, is it, uh, kxt?

Tim (01:07:31):
are they going to be broadcasting live, or do you
know, or?

no, they're just promoting okay, just promoting,
okay cool and so, yeah, I got athing for my friend today.
He's he listens to kxt.
He's like man, they've beenlike talking about you, like so
constantly.

Tim (01:07:44):
That's awesome.
If I'm listening to the radio,it's funny.
I happened upon the station onaccident.
My dyslexic, you know this.
I tried to do 97.1 yeah, and Iput 91.7 I was like man, this is
weird what they got 97.1'schanged, but I'm like, I'm here
for it because you know they putall sorts of stuff so I kind of
it's actually one of them.
If I'm listening to the radio,that's one of the one of the

(01:08:06):
primary radio stations I'm nowon.
It's good, that's Denton, right, it's their radio station.

No, they're out of Dallas.
They're out of Dallas.

Tim (01:08:15):
Okay, I couldn't remember where exactly, but they play all
sorts of interesting things,just kind of span the gambit of
local artists and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
It's nice, I like it.
The word's gambit, gambit,gambit of local artists and
whatnot.

Tim (01:08:27):
It's nice, I like it, the word's Gambit.

Chad (01:08:29):
Right, all right, it's not .

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Gambit, gambit, gambit, whatever.

Tim (01:08:32):
Gambit.

Gambit.

Tim (01:08:33):
Gambit was the guy with the my favorite Marvel character.

So, yeah, I reached out to them.
I was like, would you guys liketo be involved?

Tim (01:08:41):
And they're, oh, so yeah, they like you so far.

And then four of them have made their way to their
local rotation.
Right so you'll hear them likeevery like 10, 11 days.
They'll play my music.

Chad (01:08:53):
That's a smart move, though, because you get them
involved.
You got that promotion, andthen you got you know they're
already playing your music.
They're probably going to beplaying it more Right, and so
smart move.

Yeah, I, I went to the 530.

Chad (01:09:05):
Clear brain.

Yeah, 530 in the morning class and I'm like
leaving it's like 645 in themorning and I hear Benji like we
got a lot of cool shows comingup.
We got Ben C Jones.
I was like oh sweet.

Tim (01:09:15):
That's awesome.
Nice to hear yourself on theradio, right.

Chad (01:09:17):
Yeah, I hear your name.
Are tickets already on sale forit?

They are and I would recommend everybody To get them
online.
I think it's gonna be like 12bucks after tax and it's 14 at
the door stupid cheap, wow okayyeah, so we're trying to make it
very accessible for everybodyto come on out all right, so
I've got a.

Tim (01:09:34):
I've got a question here for you, because I've seen that
you played the visit fort worthwhich we didn't go to.
Uh, this, this year we this isthe first year in a couple years
we didn't do the annual meetingum, so you got to play that
that.

That was cool.
They had me positioned right atthe escalators going up to the
actual event, and so everybodywalked by.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Yeah.

And I'm out there doing my thing and then I see
Abraham Alexander, who?
He's riding a high.
He got nominated for an Oscar.
Yeah, he doesn't know if he'sgoing to win or lose yet, but
he's like, you know, he's gotpeople around him and stuff and
I'm like hey, I got a microphoneand speakers.
I'm like it's Abraham Alexander, oscar nominated.
And he's like Turner, hey,what's up, man?

Chad (01:10:30):
And he paused for dove the ?

epiphone dove and I learned later that's like his
like brands that he promotes orwhatever.

Tim (01:10:33):
Oh, wow, so that's kind of cool.
That's awesome.
Yeah, I seem like a pretty niceguy.
Yeah, yeah, we, uh, we havebeen around him a lot um, so he
used to host uh, so far soundsum back in the day and our
friend zeus used to host showsat his house for so far, and so
you had abraham out there andhe's always dressed in nine.
So we, we became all crazydress.
Yes, yeah all the time.

(01:10:53):
He's got the best fashion senseout of anybody I think I've
ever met um, but he's, with allthis stuff going on, I'm gonna
tell you if you ever, if youever get a chance to just you,
you see him out, say hi to him.
That man is one of the mosthumble people I've ever met and
he was an Oscar nominee andthat's fucking crazy.

Chad (01:11:15):
Unlike.
I don't know if you've heard ofthis guy, ben C Jones.
He'll just slap you in yourface.
You approach him on the street.
He won't say a word, he'll justslap you in your face.

Tim (01:11:23):
Well, that's the Australian wrestler version of Ben C Jones
.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
That's the Australian wrestler version of Vincey Joe.
That's the shtick.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tim (01:11:31):
All right, so you've got all this stuff going on.
Anything else that we're goingto be looking out for coming up?

Yeah, those are the two main things that I have
happening.
You know you did mention NileCity Sound.
We just recently went overthere to record three songs.
They're older songs but just totry to help promote the show
that we have coming up and Ibrought in basically all the
people that I had at the 817 gig, a couple of new people and

(01:12:01):
then we also brought in ChrisWatson on the keys on that one
from the Retrophonics.
But yeah, that should be comingout here next month and you
know, shout out to, to, towaffles for for coming out and
recording that and taking somereally cool pictures.
I'm also doing a um open micreview, so just kind of going

(01:12:23):
around to all the open mics inthe DFW area and oh yeah, I saw
you at Gusto's the one time,right and promoting, yeah, yeah.
I'm on episode seven, so I'vebeen around and it's going
actually really good.
I mean, I'm learning a lot ofhow people run the open mics and
I feel like it's a really coolcross-promotion.
I'm promoting the venue, I'mpromoting the host.

Chad (01:12:49):
And then also it's like bringing you know interest to me
at the same time, of course,yeah.

So yeah, look out for some uh DFW open mic reviews as
well all right.

Tim (01:12:57):
So, um, one of the last segments.
We've been trying to do somedifferent things and, um, I want
to.
I want to do a segment calledbad takes.
Okay, so this is going to be aBad Takes Only Space Tourism
Edition.
We're going to bring it back inthere.

Chad (01:13:13):
All right, full circle.

Tim (01:13:14):
We're going to do one through ten.
I want you to just pick anumber Chad.

Chad (01:13:20):
I'm going to say three.

Tim (01:13:21):
Okay, You're going to say three and you're going to pick a
number.

Okay, five, five.

Tim (01:13:24):
Okay, five, five, okay, all right, so three.
And the way this works is thatyou've got to give a bad take.
You basically have to defendthe worst possible opinion.
Okay, all right.
So you said three.
If Katy Perry can go to space,so should Guy Fieri.
Let him open the firstintergalactic flavor town.

Chad (01:13:45):
And so.

Tim (01:13:46):
I've got to, yeah, you've got me.
What like why?
This is why defend it defendwhat guy fieri dude?

Chad (01:13:53):
this is a pretty fucking obvious slam dunk.
All right, the reason that guyfieri should go into space first
off rocket what is?
Propelled by it's fire, fire.

Tim (01:14:04):
What do you think he's gonna be wearing his?

Chad (01:14:05):
shirt.
Of course he's gonna be wearinghis flame shirt.
Okay, so it goes hand in hand.

Tim (01:14:09):
It goes in hand.

Chad (01:14:09):
He needs to be on every fucking ship.
Obviously they're going to gethungry.
It's an entire 11 minutes thatthey're in space.
Do you think that you could go11 minutes without a Guy Fieri
burger?

Tim (01:14:21):
No, I can tell you I've been on a cruise and I could
definitely not go 11 minuteswithout wine.
I'll be honest, they slap onthe cruise Every 11 minutes.
I was eating a Guy Fieri burger.
Guy Fieri does have a burgerand they're legit.

Chad (01:14:34):
They're like half bacon, half beef.
Whatever, I've already sold mypoint.
This guy needs to go to spaceand it's pretty fucking obvious
why.

Tim (01:14:41):
Should they rename the Rocket?

Chad (01:14:43):
to like that's it, that's the whole thing.

Tim (01:14:46):
Case closed.
Rocket is called Flavortown.
I mean, I think that's good,all right, sure, all right.
Number five NASA is outdated.
Let influencers and YouTuberstake over human exploration.

More views, less math , hell yeah.

Tim (01:15:03):
Okay.

And that's because there's going to be some crazy
stuff going on People takingsome awesome selfies, yeah, and
you know NASA's just sooverrated with all the math and
the money and the science andstuff.
Just let these guys get outthere with like a weather
balloon, and you know Well, Iwill tell you, I I mean, we had

(01:15:27):
the whole celebrity boxingmatches and stuff like that.

Tim (01:15:30):
It's.
I mean, I see it, I think, uh,you make a reality tv show, you
put them on a rocket ship, youtell them figure it out and see
what happens.

I guarantee you were five years or less from that
exact thing that's gonna behappening, yeah, well, it's
gonna be in the freaking hotel.

Chad (01:15:49):
I can't think of my name now bitches, the one we hate.
Take advantage of it, make it afucking.
The one that everybody hates uh, that boxed.

Tim (01:15:55):
Uh, mike tyson, uh, oh uh jake paul, yeah I could see jake
paul, you know um doingsomething like he will be one of
the first influencers in space.

Chad (01:16:04):
For sure, him.

Tim (01:16:05):
And mr beast, for sure those two are going to space man
, there's a whole thing about mrbeast and, uh, resort resorts
world right now.
I don't know if you saw that.
No, they had this whole like mrbeast experience that all these
people paid for to go toresorts, resorts world and in
vegas and they were thought,they thought they were going to
be a meet and greet and theywere going to get to meet him
and do all this stuff, and nowit's like all these people are

(01:16:26):
like pissed and wanting todemand money.
Um so, anyways, all right, soI'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,
uh, pick mine real quick.

Chad (01:16:33):
Uh, let's see yours is gonna be seven, mine's gonna be.
You don't get to pick yours.

Tim (01:16:37):
If we don't get to pick it, you don't get seven all right
if your band hasn't played azero g concert I don't want to
hear about your artistic vision.
Yeah, I actually believe thatZero-G is the only vision that
all bands should be striving forthis.
Okay, could you imagine?
Take notes, sir.

Chad (01:16:59):
Just imagine, not Benzie Jones, okay.

Tim (01:17:02):
Just imagine the Rolling Stones.
Okay, they're up there, theyget launched into space Number
one.
They're going to look youngerbecause their skin is going to
go back.
Yeah, naturally tightenNaturally going to tighten
because they're going to be upthere and it's the G forces,
right, so they're going to lookyounger.
Number two sound is differentup there.
You know this to be fact, Iknow this to be fact.

(01:17:24):
Sound is different up there, sothey're gonna sound youthful oh
, oh so not only sound different.
It's younger, yeah they lookyounger, they sound younger
number two or number threenumber three and d they're not

(01:17:45):
you too, because bono sucks.
I'm still on that whole kick,all right.
So I I think you know if you'regonna play and you want to do
your artistic vision or whatever, the only way to do it, the
only way to win in this game isplaying a zero g concert that
sounds really challenging, allyour people all your people up
there just floating around dude,if you were serious, that'd be

(01:18:06):
like the most douchey thing.

Chad (01:18:09):
Fuck your art.
You're just shitting oneverybody you play drums.

You hit the drum and the drum flies away.

Chad (01:18:20):
You ain't seen shit until you've been up in space watching
the Rolling Stones play.
I mean, there's been plenty ofbands I can think of Godsmack
that have the drum set attachedto something and they spin
upside down and they can, justyou know, go there you go.
We're not doing that, no it'sjust gonna be everything
floating around.

Tim (01:18:35):
Yes, okay, I'm sorry my bad now the drums are gonna be your
artistic.
The drums are all gonna beattached.
Your seat's gonna be attachedto the drums.
So you're gonna have this thingand you're just gonna be.

Chad (01:18:44):
It's just like one single drum set floating around the
room.
Yes, just pinging and pongingacross the room.

Tim (01:18:51):
What's nice about it, though, is that, because sound
is different up there when theamps move, you're not going to
get the feedback as if you'restanding directly in front of
the amp or the PA system.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Is that fact?

Tim (01:19:04):
It is fact, you're saying a lot of things.

Chad (01:19:09):
It's 100% fact.
Is that fact?
It is fact a lot of things.
It's a hundred percent fact.

Tim (01:19:13):
Feedback does not exist in space.

Feedback doesn't exist um there's no feedback in
space.
The only way to.

Tim (01:19:19):
The only way to get feedback is that you got to get
a bunch of metal zone pedals andyou got to put them in a daisy
chain together and nobody willdo that that's crazy.

Chad (01:19:28):
The daisy chain's also floating.
You're trying to choke somepeople out with this daisy chain
, you know no, there's gonna be.

Tim (01:19:34):
You got to keep the.
You got to keep the publicseparate.
Oh so, you're gonna be floatingin this like cage thing and the
public's gonna be just floatingaround that you lost me on that
.

I do have some concerns.
There's the guy who pees in thecup who doesn't want to go to
the restroom during the show.

Tim (01:19:50):
Oh yeah.

And then now that's floating around.

Tim (01:19:52):
That's an issue for other people.

There's the guy who pukes.

Tim (01:19:55):
That's for a lot of people.

That's part of the artistic vision.
There's the puker guy whodrinks way too much before he
shows up to the venue.

Tim (01:20:01):
Again.

Now that's floating around.

Chad (01:20:04):
I want to see what this mosh pit looks like.
To be quite honest with you,though, Because now you're just
going against the wall andkicking off like you're in a
swimming pool.

Tim (01:20:11):
Yeah.

Chad (01:20:11):
And just trying to headbutt someone else.

Tim (01:20:13):
I guess Imagine that Stage diving.

Chad (01:20:15):
There's no stage diving, there's just stage floating.
There's no diving, everyonewatch out and nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
It's very anti-climatic and nothing.
It's very anti-climatic.

Tim (01:20:31):
Oh man, why fund?
I've got a bunch of these whyfund climate change solutions
when we can just vacation offworld?
I mean that's where that'swhere the riches are going.
It is.

Chad (01:20:41):
The riches are like fuck this place.

Tim (01:20:43):
I'm still trying to figure out why we're not just sending
our trash, you know, out ofspace.
I don't know, why haven't webeen doing?

Chad (01:20:51):
that there's been a lot of things about Mars recently.
Have you seen some of thesethings about Mars Like they saw
in one of the pictures?
I don't know and I only get onthe internet through social
media.
I don't watch the news oranything, so it could very well
be fake, but I'm usually prettygood eye on these things.
But it appeared that and Ithink it was actually a news
article from whatever there waslike this tic-tac looking thing

(01:21:14):
that was floating above theground at the back of a picture
that was taken and it was likethis little mini space shuttle
type thing and they couldn'tfigure out what it was and it
was floating because there was ashadow.
But a shadow, but it was likevery like smooth, like a giant.

Tim (01:21:27):
You know, they said the aliens come from the ocean.

That's where they live.

Chad (01:21:30):
That's where they live.
Well, this is, I'm talkingabout Mars at the moment, I know
.

But they go to Mars, they hang out there, they used
to have an ocean, from water toMars.
They used to have an ocean fromthe ocean to the movie.

Chad (01:21:42):
They used to have an ocean .

Tim (01:21:43):
Yeah, until all the nuclear war yeah that was something
else I saw about mars is thereapparently there's actual
evidence of like a previousnuclear yeah, there's um, well,
there's, there's a certain likeuh element or something that's
only present, like after, likeyou see it, and like the yeah
how wild would that be?

Chad (01:22:00):
what, what?
What are the chances that thetwo of you think that there was
actually life on mars and theyblew themselves up, like
basically what we're probablygoing to do someday?

Tim (01:22:09):
but they did it first and then just it's like Superman you
know the world's coming to anend, so they just launch your
you know your alien baby off theplanet to go somewhere else
here, he came here.
What if they did come?

Chad (01:22:20):
here.
What if that was what, like themonkeys and fish that we
evolved from?
Maybe they were just like fromMars and they just blew each
other up because they were justa little dumb.
And then they came here and weslowly evolved into what To
eventually probably do the samething.

Tim (01:22:34):
Oh no, we've already de-evolved and now we're trying
to evolve again, because I meanthe whole pyramid thing with all
the stuff underneath it, thespirals.

Chad (01:22:43):
What do you think?

Tim (01:22:44):
that's about.
It's all chocolate.
Well, I wasn't asking you for areason.

I am a geography guy and the thing that I learned
about the pyramids, which is socrazy, is that the coordinates
of the pyramid have you heardthis?
The coordinates of the pyramids, to like nine digits deep is
the speed of light?
No way.

Tim (01:23:09):
That's wild man.

Yeah, the latitude of where it is is basically the
speed of light, down to likenine digits deep.

Chad (01:23:19):
That's just a chance.

No, so we were yeah, I agree with you, we were at
some point, you know, atlantis,and we were like kicking ass.
We had the whole world thinggoing on.
And then some war happened thepyramid wars, whatever and it
blew stuff up.
And then next thing, you know,here we are like tariffs, and
then we better clip that andwe're trying to get back.

(01:23:44):
We're trying to figure out howto get back to it.
You know, we're just so dumb,we can't figure it out.

Tim (01:23:50):
Oh yeah, yeah um, have you seen all the so I've been?
I've been getting my, my four,my for you page is all about, uh
, china, right now china and howto get how to get uh name brand
stuff from the same factoriesthat these places.
They're saying that uh air messand uh like lulu this is.
This is a fucked up one,because you know why lulu lemon

(01:24:11):
is.
Is lulu lemon right?
no so it's a racist thingbecause the guy who and he
legitimately the guy who createdlulu lemon thought of, like the
, what would be funny to hearsomeone of asian descent say wow
yeah, they make all theirclothes over there at this, at
this factory and so there's the.
So this guy was one of theseguys in china was saying like

(01:24:32):
you want, you like lulu lemon,you buy from this factory.
This is how you do it.
You can get the exact samething.
It just doesn't have the logoon it.
Wow, like they said Aramis andLouis Vuitton and all that they
make the bulk of the product inChina and then they send it off
to there and then they stitchthe logo on or whatever, and

(01:24:53):
then it's made in France, orit's made you know, it's all
made in france, or it's made youknow yeah, it's all made in
china.
That's wild.
You can get these electric carsin china now.
That are like uh the byd dude?

Chad (01:25:03):
yeah, I saw one finally.
It was on my last day in hongkong.
I was like I there was a ton ofteslas.
I'm like, why am I not seeing abyd?
And um jesus crystal said thatin mainland, that's almost all
you see.
Apparently there's.
There's a lot of gas-poweredBYDs.
That's how they started.
I didn't realize.
I thought it was like this newelectric Tesla competitor.
But yeah, there's tons of them.
But I saw one.

(01:25:23):
It was pretty.

Tim (01:25:23):
And you get them for a fraction of the cost of what you
.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Like a third of the Tesla it's crazy.

Tim (01:25:31):
Maybe we've been lied to this whole time, I don't know.

So are we going to bring all that back here?
Is that the plan To bring, tohave our guys stitching up?

Tim (01:25:41):
Louis Vuitton and Lululemon .
That's what they've beenalready doing, man, that's what
they're already doing.

Chad (01:25:55):
It's crazy that the cost of the manufacturing and the
amount of time it would take toreplicate what is already done
in all these countries, it'slike it was if you were to take
the iphone and startmanufacturing it in the us.
Not only is it going to go upfrom like 1 000 to 30 000,
because it is going to be thatbig of a difference, they also
have to create.
It's going to take five yearsto create a facility, because
it's not just, you know,machines putting on chips and
stuff they're gonna get thespecific people that have been

(01:26:15):
doing this for so long that youcan't just like train someone to
just do what they're doing.
It's crazy and it's just like no, we'll figure it out.
You.

Tim (01:26:23):
It's fine, we will not.
It's fine.
All right.
We got this To wrap this up.
This is the closing segment.
Overrated versus underratedMusic streaming platforms.

I'm going to have to say overrated.

Tim (01:26:40):
Yeah.

Because they exploit man.
There's something really coolabout we just had Record Store
Day I don't know if you guys arefamiliar with that Just a
couple days ago.
I've been going around a coupleof these record stores man,
they're so cool and we've kindof gotten away from that.
I'm thinking how can we getback to going in there holding
like a record?

Tim (01:26:55):
yeah, I mean, that's how I feel about, uh, that's how I
feel about like movies and stufflike that too.
Yeah, um, you know the days ofgoing to blockbuster and picking
out the perfect movie to watch,or you go to a movie trading
company and you're uh findingthat used video that you, that
you know you can't find anywhereelse, um, and having that
physical media.
Man, I collect uh records.
I'll be.

(01:27:15):
I kind of stopped for a littlewhile, but you know, having
those products like cassettetapes, things like that.

Have you ever seen Dune the Dune movies?

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
Yeah.

And people were like, well, why is there not like all
this technology everywhere?
And they're like, well, becausepeople got to the point where
they rejected the technologythey just kind of embrace like
tactile stuff.

Tim (01:27:33):
Yeah, yeah, embrace like tactile stuff, yeah, yeah, I
think, uh, I mean musicstreaming platforms in one way
is nice because it makes itaccessible and gets the you know
, gets the music out to them, tothe masses I can kind of
discover.
I've discovered new music viathat and uh, I've discovered a
lot of new music through tiktokyeah, um and I do.
It does have its advantage, butI do know they exploit uh, we

(01:27:54):
are, we are uh distributedmusicians um right now and we're
being exploited.
I feel we haven't gotten asingle penny.

Chad (01:28:03):
I think there's an exploitation, for sure, and I do
think that it's overrated, butit's also just almost like that
rated, because the exploitationis definitely there.
However, you can't play arecord in your car.
You know what I mean, true, you?

Tim (01:28:15):
can't just go and play.

Chad (01:28:16):
I've got a nice little record collection.
That's what I prefer to do athome.
I'm not going to ever listen tolike my streaming at home.
I'm always going to put on arecord.
However, you can't do thateverywhere?

Tim (01:28:26):
yeah, that's true, and to your point, you can't.
If you try, it gets more musicplaces yeah, yeah, skip around a
lot, but I think in a bump Ithink it is a little overrated
in the sense of that and thereneeds to be a happy median um
that we can come up with.
And I don't know they need topay their artists pay the
artists paid more money.

I'd be like it's great yeah, because it's.

Tim (01:28:47):
It's like.
It's like pennies on the dollarright, or even less than that.

It's less than that it's like you get like 0.00345
cents yeah, I mean it's it.

Tim (01:28:54):
it's similar to like your, like YouTube and things like
that you just have to.
I mean, and you have to justget massive numbers in order to
make any money.
It's crazy because a lot of yourartists are.
You know you get these touringartists that used they used to
make money off of.
You know Metallica's got moremoney than Sin, but you know
they made money off of physicalmedia sales and things like that

(01:29:14):
, and that's gone now.
Money off of physical mediasales and things like that, and
that's gone now.
And so you really rely on yourcut from the door and your your
merch sales, and merch is a youknow huge thing and I don't mind
going to these shows andspending yeah, I might be buying
a t-shirt for 40 bucks I don'tmind spending you know a little
bit extra money to get that tohelp support that band right, as

(01:29:35):
long as the cuts not go intothe venue.

Right.

Tim (01:29:38):
That's a whole man, and that's a whole other thing.

Chad (01:29:41):
When it's merch.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
Yeah, yeah, that sucks.

Tim (01:29:43):
Like I don't agree with that.
I get like, okay, we're goingto give you a percentage of the
door or whatever, but all yourmerch sales should be yours.

I will say that the smaller venues are being
squeezed by the Ticket Guys.
Ticketmaster and.
Live Nation.
Those guys have basically saidwe're just going to focus on
these big giant arena acts andstadium acts and then everybody
else.
It's like a smaller venue.
It's bad.

Tim (01:30:10):
It's difficult.
Celebrity activism.

Overrated.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
Overrated.

Tim (01:30:15):
Local music awards Overrated, overrated, overrated,
okay, local music awards.

Overrated.

Tim (01:30:22):
Really, I think sometimes I don't know much about the ins
and outs of the local musicawards scene, but sometimes I
feel like maybe it's just Idon't know, maybe it's a little
rigged Could be.
I think we need to the onesthat we vote on.
You know, I think it's kind ofcool but you know, if you're not

(01:30:46):
voting it's just some dudepicking, you know.

Chad (01:30:49):
I think it's underrated.
I think they need to beconsolidated some, because
there's so many and it justbecomes noise.
If there was like a local youknow award system thing, then
cool.
But there's just so much goingon it's hard to keep up with it
all I think if I had moresuccess in that realm I'd be
like it's great so it's aselfish over because I don't and

(01:31:13):
nobody votes for me, then I'mlike whatever overrated.

Tim (01:31:18):
We got to get your.
We got to get your name outthere cheers to that sometimes I
feel like it's just a.

I mean, it is a big popularity contest, it's a
popularity contest and it's likewho knows who and then, like
I've noticed in the on the musicside things at least here in
our town, it's a lot of people.
It's the same people who winevery year yeah, yeah and so
it's just the friends all votefor each other and I'm like,
well, they haven't reallyreleased any new music, any you

(01:31:45):
know, recently.
Uh, you know what are theyreally doing and so they're cool
.
They are cool and I think it is.
It is an honor to be kind of inthat in that world and have
people think about you.
I mean, you know, I got for ourlocal setup.
I was on the initial list.
I didn't make it to like theactual, like final nominees, but

(01:32:07):
I was on the initial list,that's.
That's cool, yeah.

Tim (01:32:09):
I think I would rather, instead of having local music
awards, just having like localmusic showcases and like, like,
not like.
Oh, we're presenting this band,you know, tonight with some
supporting acts.
I'm talking like full-on, um,like almost like local music
festivals, like this south sidething that they do.

Chad (01:32:29):
Yeah, a few months, which is awesome.

Tim (01:32:31):
I mean not, but I mean that's a little spread out.
I'm talking like more of justlike one location, yeah okay,
but I mean and it's it's reallytrying to get like that you put
a couple of like big like maybeeither not necessarily local
acts but maybe national acts ormaybe just a little bit bigger
regional acts or whatever todraw in some of that crowd.
But then you stack the shit outof all the support stuff with

(01:32:53):
your local and so you get thesecrowds that are coming for that
national or bigger acts.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
But they get to see what you know Like Frontier Fest
.
Yeah, getting more.

Tim (01:33:04):
Fortress.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
Fest Fortress.

Tim (01:33:04):
Fest.
Yeah, getting more exposurethat way, you know.
Yeah, I would love that FortWorth's weird when it comes to
the music scene.

Fort Worth is.
Yeah, it's a weird one, becauseI mean most of the people in
fort worth they love nationalacts.
Yeah, they're like, they'relike they will come out in
droves, yep, but then our localmusic scene is very um segmented
and 100 it's uh, it's a lot offriend groups and stuff, but you
know, it is what it is.

Tim (01:33:29):
So, yeah, I've been to um, you know, it's funny, like I, I
ran into that.
It's not just fort worth,though.
I ran into that in dallas Iwent and my cousin invited me
out to see a band and, um, youknow, I didn't know any of the,
I didn't know any of the youknow artists, but I was like,
well, my cousins, you know,asked me to come out, so sure,
I'm gonna go out with them.
And we got out there and therewas a big showing for like one

(01:33:53):
band that was opening up.
Uh, actually, I didn't, Ididn't know them.
It was dispositions, which is alocal fourth kind of like metal
band, and as soon asdispositions was done in the
headliner, who my cousin wasactually there to see it, comes
on.
There's nobody there everybodyeverybody left

yeah, yeah, so they should have been the headliner?

Tim (01:34:13):
sure, yeah, and I've seen that also.
Um, there's another.
There's a hardcore band in FortWorth, ozone, kelly Onionberger
.
Joe Kelly is the front man forit.
They did a show out at HermanHall Sons of Herman Hall out in
Dallas and they were the actbefore the headliner.

(01:34:34):
And again, same thing Everybodyshowed up to see ozone and then,
as soon as over, a lot ofpeople left and so you know
you're seeing a lot of, you knowthere's some stuff like that.
But you're really you're,you're right, it is very
segmented and then depending on,like, what part of town.
So I mean, if you're playing onthe west side or something like
that, you're probably not gonnaget that big of showing and
like, tulips seems to get quitea you know of their shows.

(01:34:56):
They get a lot of people outthere, it seems like.
But some of your other venuesthey just don't get the crowd
and we don't know why.
Talking to Jason, one of thebiggest complaints Jason, the
owner of Tulips one of thebiggest complaints that he got
from people was their drinkprices and things like that,
because it is a little moreexpensive.
I mean, they're a venue andyou've got people who aren't

(01:35:20):
just necessarily going out thereto have drinks or whatever.
So you raise your price, make alittle bit of money because
you've got to make.
You're a business owner.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
Yeah.

Tim (01:35:26):
And so a lot of people complain about that.
But man, I don't know, I don'tknow what the answer is for Fort
Worth.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
Yeah.

Tim (01:35:33):
Dallas has got the music scene.
It seems like it just people domostly show up for those.
But Yep.

Yeah, I don't know, I don't know what's going to take
it to the next level.
I'm trying, trying to just youknow.

Tim (01:35:46):
Yeah, I think a lot of our artists Put out good music and
that's all we can do.

And you know, hopefully we can get some people
to come out on June 13, 13th tothe post 13th to the post.

Chad (01:35:55):
Bring it back around.

Tim (01:35:58):
Yeah, so I mean, that's all I got.

June 13th, june 13th at the post, june 13th at the
post, june 13th at the post guys, $10 plus tax for tickets if
you pre-buy them $14 at the door.
Yeah and yeah.
You guys can go tothepostatrivereastcom to get
those tickets.
Just click on the shows andscroll down until you see mine.

Tim (01:36:18):
Don't get confused though, because they're not at the River
East anymore.
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
That is very confusing.

They are off of 7th Street and Foch yeah.

Tim (01:36:25):
Yeah, birdie Social over there.
It's a nice place.
Our favorite barbecue placeused to be their Dane's.
Dane's has got his own spot.
Shout out to Dane.
They're open for dinner now.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
Yeah, that's pretty cool, all right.

Tim (01:36:39):
Thank you for coming on, ben.

C Jones.
Yeah, guys, thank you so much.

Tim (01:36:43):
I do apologize that Javier was the one who ran into you and
y'all got this all worked out.
He's being a real Javiertonight.

Chad (01:36:54):
Where can people find you on social media?

man, I got the where can people find you on social
media, man, yeah, guys go to atBen C Jones music and yeah, and
then also WW, ww, ben C Jonesmusic dot com.

Tim (01:37:03):
And then look for Amplify one seven, his album release May
20,.

May 23rd.
Yeah, and stream it thereexclusively.

Chad (01:37:13):
And if you're going to be at the post like we are, we'll
see you there on June 13th, yeah.
And if you're going to be atthe post like we are, we'll see
you there on June 13th, yeah.
If you want to do so, pleasemake sure you follow the Funky
Panther on all things socialmedia.
You can find it atthefunkypanthercom Call text.
Leave us a voicemail817-677-048-0408.

Tim (01:37:30):
040,.
I was like there's not enoughnumbers there, there's not
enough numbers, anything else toclose it out with anything else
to close it out with no, I mean, I just think, just love each
other and be kind to everyoneand listen to good music and
support your local artists.
And remember I've got like fivecats right now.
If anybody's interested in akitten, we might be able to make
that happen and support yourlocal podcast support local

(01:37:52):
podcasts support localbusinesses support everything
here, because businesses areclosing.

Chad (01:37:57):
Okay, turn the music off for a second the most important
question of the entire show.

Oh shit, I got serious.

Chad (01:38:04):
You have now been on three podcasts in a month.
Who takes the gold you do?
You're goddamn right we dothat's right baby, don't hurt me
.
Woo.
Thank you all for hanging outwith us.
Stay good everybody.
I'm Chad, I'm Tim, I'm Ben andwe are the Funky Panther.

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