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You’re gonna die someday—might as well make it count. In this brutally honest episode, we talk with Kevin, a tissue procurement specialist (yes, that’s a real job), who spends his days elbow-deep in the stuff you leave behind when you check that little box on your driver’s license. Spoiler: he’s not here to steal your kidneys in a back alley—he’s here to save lives.

From slinging HDMI cables at Best Buy to preserving human limbs with surgical precision, Kevin breaks down what really happens after you flatline. Forget the myths: doctors won’t pull the plug early if you’re a donor, your casket can stay open for the viewing, and no, your tattoos don’t make your organs goth rejects.

We also hit some cold, hard facts: someone in Texas joins the transplant waitlist every nine minutes, and 17 people die each day because there’s not enough to go around. Still think your spleen’s too special to share?

And just when you thought this episode couldn’t get more unexpected—Kevin also flexes his Rangers pride, immortalized in World Series tattoos and childhood memories of his baseball-loving grandpa. Death, donations, and dingers? We cover it all.

If you’ve got a pulse, you need to hear this. If you don’t—well, Kevin might be on his way.
 #DeadButUseful #OrganDonationTruths #TexasTransplantCrisis #FunkyPantherPodcast #RangersInkAndOrgans

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Spores kicks and fires.
He struck him out looking it'sover, it's over.
The Rangers have won the WorldSeries.
Ranger fans, you're notdreaming.
The Rangers are the WorldSeries champions.
After 52 years in Texas, 63years in the franchise, the wait

(00:25):
is over and the celebration hasbegun Straight up 8 o'clock in
the mountains.
Andrew's time comes at 11o'clock.
I mean it's 11 o'clock To anopen now to talk about.

(00:49):
Take your pictures down andshake it out.
Truth or consequence?
Say it aloud.
Here's that evidence.
Racing around, there goes myhero.

(01:14):
Watch him as he goes there goesmy hero, sergeant Harry.

Javier (01:30):
There goes my hero.
Chad's not here, obviously.

Kevin (01:41):
You can tell Got this big gorgeous specimen here, the
more attractive Chad.

Javier (01:45):
This is a better Chad, mexican Chad.

Kevin (01:49):
El Chad, I just found out , actually I'm Cherokee and
Choctaw.
Hell yeah money, I know right,oh, and that's on my website.

Tim (01:56):
Hello, welcome to the Funky Panther.

Javier (01:59):
This is the Funky Panther.
You know from Fort Worth Texas.
We, you know from Fort WorthTexas.
We've got a great show for you.
So stay tuned, relax, grabyourself a drink we're drinking
Monster and enjoy yourself andhave some of this.
Wash your face with thisSaratoga water.
So chill out, make yourselfcomfy and enjoy the show.
I'm Javier, I'm Tim, I'm Kevin.

Kevin (02:20):
And we are.

Javier (02:21):
The Funky Panther Fill in.
I just wanted to do somethingdifferent.
Chad, I think.
Whenever Chad's not here, I dosomething.
I need to do somethingdifferent.

Tim (02:33):
That whole thing is I wanted to jump into hello and
welcome.

Javier (02:34):
To Move Phone brought to you by the Dallas River and
106.1 Kiss FM.

Kevin (02:37):
If you know the movie you'd like to see.
Press one.

Tim (02:40):
I thought that was the coolest technology ever.

Kevin (02:42):
Seinfeld there was an episode of Kramer.

Javier (02:46):
It was his number on accident.
Really, yeah, I don't watch.
I've never watched Seinfeld.

Kevin (02:49):
What I go through.

Javier (02:51):
Once a year I go through that.
I'm with that, with a coupleshows.
I'm like that with Band ofBrothers, the Pacific and
Gilmore Girls.
Gilmore Girls is fire.

Tim (03:03):
Lance is all about girls.
Gilmore girls is fire lance.
Uh lance is all about our buddy.
Lance is about um gilmore girls.

Kevin (03:10):
No, seinfeld man, that's his, that's his shit.
I own every dvd and then I like, when I finally finished that
collecting them, they were onnetflix, like that seriously yes
, dude, I was so pissed, but youknow what it's, I'm gonna tell
you.

Tim (03:19):
I think it's better to have the physical media at this
point, because here's, here's ashitty part about, uh, all this
digital media shit, so you cango on to amazon, buy the fucking
movie, right, right.
The problem that you're goingto run into is, um, if they stop
carrying, that movie?
Yeah, you paid for it but youdon't get to keep it like dogma
oh really it's coming back.

Kevin (03:39):
Yeah, dude, it's been gone for 10 years winehouse uh,
that, it was winehouse hehouse.

Tim (03:44):
He owned the rights or whatever he was holding it for
Kevin Smith.

Kevin (03:46):
They went through this big old thing.
It's coming back to the movietheater next month 25th
anniversary, and they're talkingabout doing the Dogma 2.

Javier (03:54):
A lot of sequels have been announced.

Kevin (03:55):
Because Jesus comes back.
I don't know if you knew that,speaking of that, they're doing
a.
What do you call it?
Part 2.
What's the jesus movie melgibson did?
Uh passion, he's doing passionpart two.

Tim (04:09):
Like he's filming that, like we don't, yeah, what's it
gonna?
Be, about uh the rapture I'msure jesus comes back.

Kevin (04:14):
He comes back.
I don't know jesus comes backand he's pissed he's got the.
You know, he's got he's gotguns no comment okay that's a
whole.

Tim (04:23):
That's a whole uh that's a.

Kevin (04:24):
That's another episode there is there is uh.

Javier (04:28):
I am curious if they have the puerto rican day
episode on stream, because Iheard it wasn't on streaming.
I know it's on the dvd I'll,I'll look tonight puerto rican,
puerto rican day it's the day.

Kevin (04:38):
It's the episode that right before the finale, it's
like the fill in.
They film that after they filmthe finale because they needed
an episode and it's the worstepisode.
It's the worst episode it'sboring.

Javier (04:49):
He burns like the puerto rican flag and on accident.

Kevin (04:52):
Yeah, there's a puerto rican parade that they have
every year in new york yeah andthey're stuck in the traffic.
And then kramer goes and findsa bathroom and it's yeah, it's a
whole shit show man I mean, Idon't hate, I like.

Tim (05:03):
I like episodes like that, where it just everything happens
and it's not purposefullyhappening, but it well, that's
the whole looks like, yeah,that's the whole show.

Javier (05:12):
I know, yeah, it's made for that.
I think it was perfect.

Tim (05:16):
I think the best episode on man we're Seinfeld talk.
The best episode in my opinion,is the whole whenever he gets
that, when Jerry gets the pinyeah, the the astronaut, yeah,
yeah it's that whole ordeal.
Take the pin.
You need to watch it.

Kevin (05:33):
You need to watch it there are scenarios in my life
that happen with my wife all thetime.
I'm like there's episodes, Ifeel about that and she'll be
like shut up.
I'll put it on right now.

Tim (05:42):
So uh, it's been.
It's been a minute since we hadKevin on the show 2020.

Kevin (05:45):
2020.
I was episode 13 or 20.

Tim (05:49):
He was early on.

Javier (05:49):
The picture I used for the post on Instagram was the
episode.

Tim (05:54):
So I want to catch up on, let's catch up a little bit with
Kevin.
So, kevin, it's been a fewyears, man, what you been up to.

Kevin (06:01):
Well, let's see, that was , and that's all time.
Okay, that was.
Uh, let's see, ever since thenI got married, I have a daughter
, another daughter, yeah, eightmore tattoos um quadruple bypass
, uh that's crazy, yeah shit um.

Tim (06:21):
You know, I'm just living cutting people up yeah, I mean
you had uh, that's why I'm here,dude, you got, you got.
Cut up yourself with thatquadruple bypass and talk about
lucky.

Kevin (06:29):
That's a yeah, well, full full circle.
Um, I was telling you all aboutAbel earlier.
He actually saved my life,cause we were at a gig and he
was telling me that I couldn'tbreathe.
I wasn't breathing right, bro,you look like shit.
Yeah, he was like you're notbreathing right, blah, blah.
So I went and, uh, 15 dayslater I came out.
The doctor was like he gave mea stress test and he was like I

(06:50):
can't, what do you say?
Like I can't actually let youleave the hospital because
you're 48 hours away from amassive coronary.
And I was like, dude, I'm 40years old, what the fuck are you
talking about?

Tim (07:00):
dude, another, another one of my buddies um, uh, his name
is aaron marquez man, and he hadum same thing.
Uh, he was, he was pretty young, he wasn't quite 40 yet I think
he was in his uh, like mid-30s.
Same type of deal man, and hewas healthy dude, he was a
firefighter and never had anyreal issues.

Kevin (07:19):
And then one day you just yeah, it's that, men, men with
heart disease, man that's, andwhat sucks is.
I didn't know I had it and Icalled my dad to tell him about
it.
He was like, oh yeah, we allhave heart disease.
I'm like dude, what the fuck,what did you?
Tell you I could be taking bareaspirin my whole life doing
that preventatives man going anddrink so fucking much god, yeah
, uh.
Oh, the rangers won the worldseries.

Javier (07:38):
That though that's the best thing that happened.
That is yeah, you got chuckmorgan's autograph I don't know,
I have uh eric nadell oh yeah,eric nadell, yeah yeah that's
the box score.

Kevin (07:46):
That's so fucking cool, so we're gonna get it we're
gonna actually get it.

Tim (07:49):
I've got a segment we're gonna get into that uh here
later about the rangers worldseries, all the stuff that's
happened and it's uh my in anopening day um because we'll be,
here all night.

Javier (07:59):
Can I ask you something while we're on Ranger Talk.
Yes, why do they want to havethe goddamn home opener on
Thursdays?
Why can that be like on aSaturday where?

Kevin (08:07):
I can go, because now the MLB has the games, like in
Mexico City or Japan orsomething, that are opening day
for those teams.
So they have to do those andthen they have to get it
approved by the league, thenthey have to get it approved by
the city, and the city blah,blah, blah.

Javier (08:25):
So yeah, get approved by the city, and the city that
blah, blah, blah.
So yeah, dude, I don't have theluxury to like I've been.
I've never been to a homeopener for the rangers.

Kevin (08:29):
Y'all miss my parties, man.

Tim (08:30):
Yeah, I've done a home opener for um cowboys cowboys
and um yeah but it's not thesame.

Kevin (08:35):
Opening day for another sport is not the same.

Tim (08:37):
Yeah, it's so we're.
I'm gonna stop you real quick,because we're gonna get into
that.

Javier (08:41):
We're gonna get into that, so let's go back to what
we were talking about.
We all know each other fromworking at Best Buy.
We were there about over 20years ago is whenever I started.

Kevin (08:49):
I started in 04.
02.
I was 03.
234, my store.

Javier (08:53):
That's right.
Woo, that's right.

Kevin (08:55):
Woo.

Javier (09:05):
And we, you know, still they say that.
I always like saying that, man,I wish I'd go back in time and
re-experience that and it's notthe work, because the work the
customers were fucking shit,they're a bunch of idiots.

Tim (09:10):
It's the people we met I've talked about this if I could
get paid what I pay, get paidright now to go work at best buy
I would do it, oh yeah I woulddo it, it's it's, it's mine.
It's kind of no offense toanybody's, working at best buy,
but it's kind of mindless.
You just go in there,especially looking back at what
I do now for a living, and I'msure you kind of think the same
thing.
It's less work.

(09:31):
Yeah, you could just go thereand just not turn off the brain.
You want this washer man?
Yeah, that's what I did.
I sold appliances.

Kevin (09:39):
That was my thing.
I sold appliances, man.
Yeah, I could hook them up andwash clothes.
We were there when therefrigerator started coming out
with the screens on them.
Remember that shit?
Yeah, you could play music anddo all that shit on them.

Tim (09:51):
Somebody puts Pornhub on there.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, they did right.
That's right Bullshit.
It was y'all, it was you, and.

Kevin (09:56):
Anthony, fuck it Me.
And.

Javier (09:58):
Anthony dude to christ.
Like everywhere, chaos followedwhere anthony was it was always
them man.
Yeah, anthony would always calllike lp and have somebody steal
shit from media or whatever youwere the scapegoat but man,
yeah, every every time, likeeven whenever me and anthony
worked at best buy like um, oneof our friends was assistant
manager there and she's she knewwe went to school together and

(10:20):
she's like so anthony's gonnaget transferred here.
I need to know right now ifyou're going to work if y'all
are going to work, if he's gonnacome over here.
His numbers are great, but Ineed to know if you're gonna be
on your a game who is thisdefying norma?

Tim (10:38):
oh, oh, yeah, um, and I forgot she was there.
Yeah, she was uh she normamendez?

Javier (10:43):
oh, I don't think, you no I left in oh five oh.
But oh, this is t-mobile, thisteam, okay, and like he's like I
need to know right now if it'sgonna be a problem.
I was like why, what would be aproblem?

Tim (10:53):
and she just looks at me because she knows I forgot she
worked at t-mobile and yeah,that's funny and so I'm like,
yeah, it'll be fine.

Javier (10:58):
And it ended up like it was fucking, it was fantastic.

Kevin (11:01):
So those are the best memories.
They're cool man, we have goodparties and stuff.

Javier (11:06):
Dude, my first month at Best Buy was that?

Kevin (11:08):
Was it my Halloween party ?
Yes, at Lockheed.
Imagine that at opening daythose were my parties, bro.

Tim (11:13):
So what's funny is places like that.
If nobody's ever worked retailman, retail's one of those
places where you'll go in thereand you'll be a 16 year old and
your best friend's like a 40year old.

Kevin (11:24):
Yeah you know bill pole bill pole my dude I hope he's
watching man bill pole he needsto.

Javier (11:30):
I haven't.
Well, my girlfriend, uh, adoresbill pole yeah and so bill got
her like her first like vinyl,her first like record set, and
all this cool shit yeah, everytime I hear the song uh lips of
an angel by hinder uh I alwaysthink of bill because he, he was
always like uh lips of an angelby hinder uh-huh.
I always think of bill becausehe, he was always like uh, lips
of an angel, more like dick of asailor and you know he always
had those quick quips and he wasjust so fun to talk, dude and a

(11:53):
killer guitar player man he's abad motherfucker.

Kevin (11:57):
Uh, you know his underground railroad stuff.

Tim (11:59):
So they toured germany for a long time in the 90s man dude
his, uh, his prog rock stuff man, he was.
You remember when he had thatlong hair?

Kevin (12:06):
I do okay, I love you, bill.
I I swear.
I used to think he looked likeknuckles from sonic.
Oh yeah, every time I saw him Iwould think that dude, it's so
wrong, but I'm glad he cut hishair this is gonna be on me too,
but this is gonna be.

Javier (12:21):
I like the.
Whenever we put these clipsfrom the show on to, it chops up
like the best clips and this isgoing to be one of them.
It's going to be like listen aswe talk about working at Best
Buy.
It's going to have the details.

Kevin (12:32):
He looks like Knuckles.
That's funny.

Javier (12:34):
But those were.
I mean we, you know, of course,we've known each other for a
long time and it's a really goodthing that we still know each
other remember running into youand uh, eddie, over at, uh, uh,
what's it called over?

Tim (12:44):
at rar and I walked up because I don't think y'all, I
don't think you remembered me atfirst at first I didn't know,
because I walked up and I waslike dude, I worked with you at
best, buy you like both of y'allhim and eddie and I, like I
recognized both y'all just likethat.

Kevin (12:55):
We were probably like 10 ugly pugs deep because we knew
the owners and shit.

Javier (12:58):
So yeah, I was like you're the guy from that thing
that I know, yeah, okay, evenfrancisco too.
He recently uh started, yeah hepopped up.

Tim (13:09):
Yeah, he's a good photographer, man yeah, and his
daughter can.

Kevin (13:13):
She can illustrate, draw like, okay, this is wrong, but
you know how like sometimesautistic dude can like photocopy
, draw through his mind.
Yeah, his daughter's badassdude like she can draw real good
, it's crazy man she's autistic.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, I ran into him well, I ran into him and I was
like I was looking at him.

Tim (13:30):
I'm like dude, I know you from somewhere and I'm asking
because then he worked.

Kevin (13:33):
He ended up working at like dominoes I think or
something he still does, but wasit when you saw him was he
shaved his shaved head?

Tim (13:38):
because he does that now no , I have to stare at him.
It was, it was pre-shaved, uh,pre-shaved.
Well he.

Javier (13:45):
Whenever I saw him, I saw him like three months ago at
the shop because I worked onhis car and he had hair and he
shaved his head already.

Kevin (13:51):
He he now and then, you worked on his four-door standard
vw.

Tim (13:56):
Every time I see it I'm like you got a vw standard
four-door car yeah, I was goingby, I see him and I'm like dude,
I know you from somewhere andI'm asking, I'm like did?
You work at this place and he'slike no, I work at Domino's and
I'm like I see that because I'mat Domino's right, but and I
was like did you work at BestBuy?
And he's like yeah, and then itjust clicked.

Javier (14:19):
you know Chad, I'm calling it now Dodgers-Rangers.
I feel like that's a goodThat'd be a good That'd be a
good series, that'd be okay.

Kevin (14:25):
I mean Otani's got a big Oriental dick.
Yeah, dude, that guy have youever heard him hit I was at the
All-Star game and when he hitthe ball I could hear the crack
in the outfield with the placepacked Dude.

Javier (14:40):
Over the roar.
That guy's a fucking brickhouse.
It's ridiculous.
He's like solid I've never seen.
If there were many of him, theywould have won World War II.

Kevin (14:49):
Probably that guy is a beefy motherfucker.
He's just tall as shit.
Yeah, he's a fucking beast dude.

Javier (14:56):
And he's a terrible gambler.
He's a ridiculous gambler, Ithought that was his handler.

Kevin (15:01):
What was it?
Oink, oink, oink.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Sure.

Kevin (15:03):
If he gets a tornado bat, we're all fucked, man.
What is it?
Twister bat?
What do they call them Tornado?

Javier (15:07):
bat.
Oh, my God that new one yeah.

Kevin (15:10):
Doley's getting one tomorrow.
You think so?
No, he ordered it Him, andBerger and Peterson ordered one.

Tim (15:16):
No shit the two are gonna practice with.

Kevin (15:24):
I think it's gonna change .
I think that bat's gonna changethe the game completely.
They're legal.
Yeah, yeah, they're completelylegal.

Tim (15:27):
So, yeah, um, all right, yes, so back on track.
We're here for a reason, yeah.
So, uh, kevin, uh, we know thatyou don't work at best buy
anymore and you, I mean for thediscount.

Kevin (15:36):
I wish I could go down.
Oh, tony lee.
Tony lee still fucking work,shut the fuck, every sunday.
He's.
He's a fucking doctor, he's acertified mechanic and he still
works at best.

Tim (15:46):
Buy for the, for the fucking show he's a fucking
doctor yes, yes, sir, no shityeah I knew he was a mechanic,
that's a legendary schedule.

Kevin (15:53):
How smart do you have to be to be a full-blown mechanic
that taught himself and afucking a pc doctor?
Get the fuck out of here, dudedude, that's he.

Javier (16:01):
Yeah, he was working at at Toyota Fort Worth while he
was doing all that.
Yeah.

Kevin (16:05):
Asians and math man that's wild man.

Tim (16:07):
All right, so we know that you don't work at Best Buy
anymore.
And, uh, you actually hit me up, because this month is
something special for theorganization or just in general
that you work for.
So I want you to tell thepeople what exactly do you do
okay, so I work for tissue rightnow.

Kevin (16:23):
So basically what I do is tissue procurement, which is a
nice way of saying I cut up deadpeople for donation okay so
what I do is is the tissue part.
So there's an organ side and atissue side, right.
So what I do is I take corneas,uh skin, uh your structure,
bones, sometimes your ribcartilage, your heart, six or

(16:47):
seven tendons in your legs andarms, skin grafts, stuff like
that, and those are for donation.
The other part is organ, whichis.
A surgeon takes those because,they're alive and those are the
ones that are donated right away.
So, that's what I'm in rightnow?

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Well, not right now.

Kevin (17:05):
It's been almost 10 years , 10 years, and this is national
donation month.

Tim (17:09):
it's not a day, it's a whole month it's a whole month,
yeah, all right, every april.
So I'm gonna.
I've got questions, some commonmyths that I want to bust.

Kevin (17:18):
If I can bust them, if you can bust them okay I'll call
the walrus guy for myth busters, so I'm I'm going to start with
the first one here.

Tim (17:25):
So healthcare professionals are more likely to let you die
if you're an organ donor.

Kevin (17:35):
That is actually unfortunately true because most
hospitals do not want to workwith.
I'm dead serious.
It's a love-hate relationshipand it's either they love
donation or they don't.
And if they don't, it's notthat they'll let you die love
donation or they don't.
And if they don't, it's notthat they'll let you die, it's
they will prolong the process ofletting the organ team get in
there when they're supposed tono, I'm talking about like to,
but I'm talking about in general, like if I go in, if I go into

(17:56):
the hospital right now and I'mlike sick.

Tim (17:59):
Yep, I've got some shit going on.
Okay, are they gonna let mejust die, because I'm an organ
donor?

Kevin (18:04):
no, yeah, that's what I'm , that's what I'm asking, I was
like well, I was like crossedout fucking liar no, uh, they
will.
They will do their best if theyknow your organ donor, but most
of the time the reason is isbecause, if you're alive, yeah
and they know you're gonna pass,which is 99 of the time, they
will keep your organs on the onthe machine, ready to go right.

Tim (18:24):
So, yes, okay, yeah, I got you so.
So if I need medical help,they're going to do everything
they can to try to saveabsolutely.
But at I'm like 99, going todie.
Okay, they're going to try tokeep my organs alive and then
you'll probably have theconversation with family, if
there's family or whatever, andsay hey, he's going to pass, but
he's an organ owner, that'swhat we want to do.
Okay, cool, so that one'sbusted Got it All right.

(18:46):
You can't have an open casketfuneral if you're an organ owner
.

Kevin (18:50):
That is up to the family, because there's actually
strategically places that we cut, let's say, for a woman we
won't cut the arms because wetake the humerus, because we
don't know the funeralarrangements, what they're going
to dress, what they're going tohave on.
So we normally just don't dothat, and even in the other
states that I've worked in, it'sthe same thing everywhere.

(19:11):
So it's up to the family, allright.
Uh, if there's normally a umcremation, normally there's not
a viewing right, yeah, so thenyou're.

Tim (19:21):
Yeah, so you get cremated, you can take all your stuff yeah
, but, yeah, but it's 99% up tothe family.

Javier (19:27):
Next of kin.
Huh, Is it still a conversation?
Even if they don't have it like, if they're a donor and they
don't have it in their will andthe family doesn't know, you
still have that conversationwith them.

Kevin (19:37):
There's a whole department that talks to the
family and stuff and, yes, thereare actually more than normal,
because one of my statistics Iwant to talk to you about
there's 44% of adults that arenot registered.
So if you're not registeredregistered or not we have to
talk to your family.
But they have to try toconvince the family right after
death.
Hey, we need this from them.

(19:59):
So, yes, that is a conversationthat happens all the time, more
than you would think.
Like, yeah, it's hard to do.

Tim (20:06):
What about?
Only young and healthy peoplecan be donors.

Kevin (20:09):
No, that's not true, because most of the time there
are what we call rule outs.
So, like during COVID, if itwas like anything respiratory
related, automatic, just no.
But you can donate just skin.
You know, as long as you're notjaundiced, you can donate just
skin.
You know, as long as you're notjaundice, you can donate just

(20:29):
skin and corneas.
As long as you don't havecataracts, you can.
You know, uh, there are limitsto what you can donate.
It also depends on fucked upyou are, you know, like the for
all, if can I describe, yeah,yeah yeah, the first donor I
ever did.
When I was watching this guydrowned and I'm not trying to be
vulgar, but this is the truth.
It freaked me out because hisjunk like the shaft.
It was this round because hedrowned.

(20:50):
He was in the water for likefour hours and it was that big
and his balls were this, like Icould grab them like this, like
boobs.

Tim (20:58):
And he was yellow.

Kevin (21:00):
Yeah, and then.
So when you drown, the watergoes all through your body.
So when they cut him open water, just Poured out.

Tim (21:06):
Yeah, that's wild Goodness yeah it freaked me out.
Coming from the chat.

Kevin (21:11):
Yes, so I've got some questions here, let's have them.

Tim (21:15):
Have you heard of Bill Aldridge, the eyeball serial
killer from Oak Cliff?

Kevin (21:19):
No, but if he's the eyeball serial killer, he
probably took a lot of businessaway from us.
He took the eyes away.
No, I'd like to meet him.

Tim (21:27):
So what are your?
Thoughts on the UNT organresale scandal.

Kevin (21:34):
Oh, that's a lot of stuff going on.
That's actually something.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
I can't.

Kevin (21:35):
Okay, you can't talk about it, okay, you can't talk
about that.
Hipaa, hipaa, all right, yeah,yeah, hipaa.

Tim (21:39):
HIP.
Yeah, there's a lot of stuffthat's come out of that.
They were doing watercremations.
I know water bath cremations,which is not legal in Texas.

Kevin (21:48):
Water bath cremations.
Yeah, it's pretty cool actually, but it's not legal.

Tim (21:51):
I think it should be legal.
It should be Because it'sbetter instead of putting
hydrocarbons up in the air.

Javier (21:56):
Oh, for the environment.
Yeah, it's better for theenvironment.

Tim (21:58):
Yes, all right.
Oh, she has another question.
Come on, let's see.
How did you get into the field?
Did it just happen, or is itsomething you wanted to do?

Kevin (22:08):
Okay, long story short.
One of my best friends, oscar.
Do you all know?
Oscar, big meaty buff,motherfucker.
Oscar, pretty boy.

Tim (22:15):
You've seen him with me, or sometimes Maybe.

Kevin (22:17):
Anyways, so him and like five other dudes I know were
into it and they were doing itfor like 10 years and I was
always scared to do it.
I was like I can't handle thebodies.
There's no way I can fuckingtouch dead bodies.
And I was struggling man andone day he called me.
He's like hey, man, we'rehiring you want to do it?
All right, fuck it, let's do it.
And it was it.
That was it, because you don'thave to go to school for this.

(22:38):
It's everybody's dead.
You're not gonna like, you knowhurt.

Tim (22:43):
You know hurt anybody, yeah , so you learn.
You just learn how to do thecuts and take the things Right.

Kevin (22:47):
Yeah, and that's part of the training is they know you're
going to mess up sometimes, butthen, but now it's like you
know, riding a bike it's nothing.
But everybody that I know thatwas into it before me.

Tim (23:00):
You look good.
You look like you'd be goodwith a knife.

Kevin (23:03):
Let's bring you on.
I have good shaving skills.

Tim (23:06):
All right, let's see.
Your religion prohibits organdonation.

Kevin (23:11):
That is true up to your next of kin.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Okay.

Kevin (23:15):
Yes, and unfortunately it does happen to the same
ethnicities.
It's always the same.

Tim (23:21):
Okay, it costs money to be an organ donor.

Kevin (23:25):
Not for the donor or the same.

Tim (23:26):
Okay it costs money to be an organ donor, not for the
donor or the family.
Sweet, yeah, okay, you can'tdonate if you have tattoos or
piercings.

Kevin (23:31):
That's incorrect All right.
Absolutely incorrect.
You can't donate skin if wecan't get a certain amount of
square inches off your body.
Like me, so I've got tattoos,we all have tattoos, but my back
isn't touched.
So what we do is we cutshoulder to shoulder all the way
down to the butt and across,and it's just one big sheet of
skin that's enough to donate andthat will help that right there

(23:55):
will help two or three people,burn victims and stuff do you
think that's what buffel billwas doing?
he was trying to help burnvictims.

Javier (24:03):
Yeah, it wasn't psycho.

Kevin (24:05):
He just wanted to help.
Yeah, the lamps were the extraskin that was uh.
Um, I do have a question.

Javier (24:11):
Yeah, yeah, so there was an episode of scrubs, okay,
where, uh, they were like, oh,this lady's gonna die, and she
died, and they had all theseorgans and they gave into the
the patients were they in abucket or something?
No, no, but everybody was likeit.
It was like they opened afridge and there was a bunch of
organs in there the organs werelike being rejected by the
bodies and was killing them, andit came to find out that she

(24:32):
had rabies.
Is that?

Kevin (24:36):
Lemonade what?

Tim (24:38):
My phone decided to start reading off stuff.
That was weird.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Milk, milk, lemonade around the corner Is this an.

Kevin (24:42):
That was weird.
Milk, milk, lemonade around thecorner.

Tim (24:45):
This is an episode of Scrubs this is on an episode of
Scrubs.

Kevin (24:49):
Yeah, I mean.

Tim (24:50):
This seems a little heavy.

Kevin (24:52):
So if they're Oregon they are tested in the hospital
before the Oregon process starts.
So there's all kinds of numbersand all this stuff.
So they know beforehand.
And so that means if there's'ssomething going on they're not
gonna keep the organs alive towait for the donation, because
they can pass away and be on themachine keeping their organs
alive for the surgeon to beready.

(25:13):
So if there's something wrongthen they won't yeah because
they have all the blood testsand and and all that stuff.

Javier (25:20):
So yeah, because it wasn't that another thing that
was happening with, uh, covidtoo?
Like some of these organs notlike lungs or anything, but like
they were infected with covidbut it's like well, we can treat
the covid, these organs arestill good, is that?

Kevin (25:33):
yes, that was at first.
Yeah, but that's why eventuallythey were just like, if it's
respiratory anything, it doesn'tmatter what, it is just no okay
they because they didn't, wedidn't have the time to test and
, uh, because you have to testand then to see if they're gonna
keep the organ and all thatother stuff and reject it.
We have, we don't have time forthat.
Yeah, you know, somebody needsa heart.
We don't know if they're gonnakeep it because of covid,

(25:54):
they're just.
There's no, no risk.

Tim (25:55):
It's infallible man, it's not I heard that you have to die
to donate I bet you you coulddonate some things I do know you
can donate actually, uh, kidney, I could donate a kidney one
but you can do like what I dotissue you could probably donate
like um if you're gonna getyour legs cut off you could

(26:17):
donate your femur or something,as long as it's not diseased,
okay, yeah um, I know that uh,you know, uh, parts of liver can
be uh removed you can cut it inhalf um, maybe some skin, if
you had some extra skin that youneed to get rid of, or
something yeah, I wonder aboutthose like um so as people who
go to like the extreme weightloss and have all that extra
skin?
I've thought about that, but itit's no elasticity.

Kevin (26:39):
No, yeah, there's like, uh, even like a young child.
You can't.
I think it's well it be under17,.
You can't donate skin becausethey're too tight, the skin's
too tight, but if you're superoverweight, they're too loose,
too loose yeah, you've got toget that.

Tim (26:55):
There's like a median right there.
It's like what's calledGoldilocks.

Kevin (27:00):
Oh yeah, she's got to be just right.
Yeah, we have bears in the ORthat judge the skin.
For us it's a whole different,different type of bear.

Tim (27:06):
But um being rich and famous moves you to the top of
the transplant absolutelyfucking, not, no, no but being
rich and famous does buy you, uh, black market stuff.

Kevin (27:17):
Yeah, um, so maybe that I did read buys an election, it
does sure shit, except for inwisconsin, sorry.

Javier (27:23):
Yes yeah, ain't that the truth, thank god.
Um, there was a thing I read inlike men's health or like ways
to, if you're in a health crisis, ways that you can save
yourself, and they were namingoff countries that you can go to
, where you pay somebody likefifty thousand dollars for like
somebody's livers or likesomething like black market.

Tim (27:43):
Yeah, it's wild.
I mean people used to.
I mean you could sell like yourtest, like a testicle you could
sell.
You can still do that actuallyfor 50 000.

Kevin (27:49):
That's actually a thing still is it?
And it's legal.
God, I'm, I'm.
I don't need kids anymore.

Javier (27:54):
So no, yeah, just like take a boat possibility.
I'm gonna buy myself a nicefancy car make me a eunuch just
put tennis balls in there, dodiabetes, cancer and other
illnesses also exclude you fromuh donation.

Tim (28:07):
Cancer, yes, yeah, diabetes no diabetes.

Kevin (28:10):
You can donate um your skin and your eye, your corneas
if your corneas are good, forcornea is good and you can.
Even if you have uh cataracts,you can still donate um if you
have like the fake lens okay,which, by the way, I know you
know medical terms so a fakelens is called non-fake it
non-fake and a real lens iscalled fake it.
That's funny, it's crazy, it'sweird as shit I hate the eyes,

(28:33):
dude, yeah it just scares

Javier (28:35):
me because I freak out well, I freak me out because my
girlfriend got lasik done andyou get the, I guess, the flap
and all.
So I got lasik done you did.

Tim (28:42):
I got lasacing done, man, like dude a long ass time ago.
Um, I actually have to wearglasses at night now.
I got it a little bit too youngdrive yeah, like I get some
starbursts and stuff like thatfrom the lights, but it wasn't.
That's not because of lasik, Ihaven't.
I had a stigmatism before andthey said like I mean, you're
gonna have this stigmatism soyou might have some issues.
Um, it's not so bad.

(29:03):
But I mean other people haveheard horror stories where
they've had it feels like theygot sand in their eyes all the
time and things like that but Idon't know man.
It saved me a lot of money Ihaven't had to I haven't had to
get my, I haven't had to havenew glasses um up until I got
glasses, and that was, uh,almost like 15 years plus yeah,
longer than that, actually damn,probably looking at like 19, 20

(29:25):
years jeez, that was how longago you had lasik yeah right,
yeah, it's it's dude, it's hadbeen probably it has to be like.

Kevin (29:33):
Maybe 18 years ago, I don't know, they had lasik 18
years ago yeah dude, it was, um,it was like a cattle call.

Tim (29:39):
Yeah, it was weird, um.
So I went in there and got mypre uh screening, they're like
oh yeah, you're a good candidate.
Cool, come back.
And I came back and they gaveme there was a room, a bunch of
people.
They do LASIK surgeries onthese two days.

Kevin (29:54):
It was a bunch of.

Tim (29:55):
There's just a bunch of people there, like a shit ton of
people.

Javier (29:58):
Like a Turkish air flight.

Tim (29:59):
Exactly.
They gave me a Valium Squid.

Kevin (30:01):
They gave me exactly they gave me a Valium Squid game.

Tim (30:03):
So they gave me a Valium to chill me out half a Valium and
then they put numbing drops inmy eyes and then, right before I
went back, they gave me theother half a Valium and said put
it in your tongue.
So by the time I got back thereyou could have taken dude, you
could have taken my wholeeyeball out handed it to me and
I'd been cool.
You know it's been fine, but youwere in there.
You lay down.
They're like stare at thislight, don't move your eyes.

(30:23):
Blah, blah, they do the thingand then you're out.
I mean, it was like yeah, 10minutes max.

Kevin (30:27):
That's like my grandpa when he had cataract surgery, so
you're awake the whole time forthat.
And I was in the room with himand they were like, okay, and
they put the drop in and theywere just doing it and I'm just
watching him.

Tim (30:40):
He's just talking to me like talking to me in worse or
whatever.
I might go get a fake lens Iactually I have cataracts.

Kevin (30:46):
I've actually had cataracts when I was 24 really
I'm I'm 44 this year in a coupleweeks.

Tim (30:50):
What the fuck's wrong with you, man?

Kevin (30:51):
your heart, the heart sucks and your eyes suck being
half white and cherokee and allthat shit, I don't know.
But, um, that's what I'm scaredof is is they?
Well, they have a drop now thatcan dissolve the cataract,
really?

Tim (31:03):
but I'm scared of that because they're like I mean, if
it dissolves the cataract, whatelse is it?

Kevin (31:06):
exactly like you're.
Yeah, I don't know it's likeyou put straight acid in your
eyes

Javier (31:11):
that for me like I've never had like surgery or
anything like that, and so allof that just freaks me the fuck
out because, like well, what ifthey put me under?

Tim (31:20):
and I don't wake up.

Javier (31:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, or you know, because I think that's
what happened to one of my dad'sgod children.
Like they put him under forsurgery, he didn't wake up he
woke up dead.

Tim (31:29):
He woke up dead, he's like I got knocked out for my, my
tooth being yanked out.

Kevin (31:33):
So I mean that was pretty cool lucky.

Tim (31:35):
It was a good do well, they had to.
So I had a tooth pulled andthen I had a crown pop off okay
and so I'm going through thewhole implant stage where I have
to put an implant, so I've gotcadaver bone that they, yeah,
put in there it's like, yeah, sothe femurs and stuff.

Kevin (31:49):
I was telling you about they take it and grind it down.
They well, they sterilize it,bleach it, grind it down to a
powder and it literally lookslike like baking powder.
It's just baking powder.
And then they make a mold outof your whatever you need, and
then they, that's the cast andboom so what are they what?

Javier (32:02):
what additive do they use to harden it like?
What are they that I don't?

Kevin (32:06):
that's.
I don't know.
He doesn't do that.
That's that's uh three or foursteps down past what I do.

Tim (32:10):
I don't know man, it was weird.
It was like this.
So they said like you mightfeel some granulated stuff in
your mouth, you know, as itcomes out of the socket right
away.
Yeah, yeah, the first couplemonths was the first couple days
, and then then it hardens upand clears up um.
So yeah, I mean y'all I don'tknow either one of y'all know
this um so my, my uncle, um.

(32:32):
He passed away several yearsago now, but, uh, he was one of
the oldest living recipients ofa heart transplant in the state
of texas.
Like he, was.

Kevin (32:39):
He was the oldest one, or one of the first ones, one the
longest living recipients.
Oh, really, really, that'sawesome.

Tim (32:45):
He got a heart transplant.
I want to say it was in like 93.

Kevin (32:50):
When did he pass?

Tim (32:52):
Maybe, like four years ago, five years ago.

Kevin (32:54):
Oh so it was a long time, Good Lord.

Tim (32:56):
Yeah, so he lived a long time with minimal complications.
I mean, he went into nearrejection a couple of times, um
was taken care of uh pretty welland uh, yeah, lived a long time
.
What got him was he uh, he hada carotid arteries, got plaque
built up, yeah and they went inthere to clear him out and,
through clot, had a massivestroke they didn't have him on

(33:16):
plavix, he was on some stuff,but yeah, he was, no, he was.
He was on uh, on a blood thinner, but it was uh, just you know
damn well, that must have been asuper young heart, though yeah,
a 17 year old girl, that's howold was he when he uh?

Kevin (33:30):
he was probably um uh late 50s oh, so, yeah, yeah, so
that was a real good heart, yeah, man, oh got a real good heart
17 year old.

Tim (33:41):
He used to tell a story, so I asked him if he ever wanted
to meet the donor's parents orfamily.

Javier (33:47):
That's possible and he said no.

Tim (33:49):
He's like I didn't want to do that because they want to
feel you, because it's like, oh,it's part you and all that
attachment and whatnot.

Kevin (33:57):
I can talk about that to everyone.

Tim (33:58):
He used to joke.
He used to have this joke,though, man, he would talk to
anybody and everybody and tellhim about his heart.
He was really proud about thisthing, right, but he had this
joke.
He's like yeah, I got a 17 yearold girl's heart and, um man,
every once in a while I catchmyself trying to sneak out of my
house and I have this love forshopping now and I'm just like
manyeah, but yeah, he had a, so he

(34:18):
had a massive heart attack, andthis was before they had l that
devices.
Uh, okay, so he had thismassive, massive heart attack uh
93 uh, probably a couple yearsuh, before that he was in um, he
had a.
He had a really low uh ejectionfraction um.
So he has this big heart attackthey he ended up having um

(34:41):
having to do bypass surgery butit shot his heart Like he just.

Kevin (34:46):
The bypass.

Tim (34:47):
No, his heart attack caused the issues.
He ended up having bypass aswell.
Oh man, so it was a heartattack that led him to the
bypass?
Jesus, so they didn't go inthere and find that he had
congested or had cloggedarteries or anything.
They found that out after hehad this massive heart attack.
I believe it was an la like acomplete led occlusion.

Kevin (35:09):
So it's a.
The led is your um the mainartery, what they call the widow
maker, and you know what.
And for him to last that long?
Because in the 90s themedication, the non-rejection
medication it was harsh on yeah,and it it was.
It's primitive compared to whatwe have now.
So for him to last that long,dude, I'm proud, it's crazy.

Tim (35:23):
So I remember him early on, Dude, he swolled up like a
balloon because of all thesteroids and all that stuff and
then got him on some goodmedicine and then he started
looking normal again.
Exercising and doing all thisstuff Never had any issues, man,
yeah, he never had any issuesafter that until he was dude
close to his 80s.

Kevin (35:41):
I mean normal life, pretty much yeah 100%.

Tim (35:44):
I mean there's some things he couldn't do.
Obviously he had his commercialpilot's license.
He couldn't fly anymore.

Kevin (35:49):
I had to get cleared for work.
I had to get cleared by mydoctor to continue to work
because I fly.
So much.

Javier (35:55):
Yeah, I was scared.
Oh man, I didn't realize that.
So altitude, the pressure, thecabin pressure, yeah, it can.

Tim (36:00):
So right after you have any massive heart surgery you
shouldn't fly anyways.

Javier (36:06):
But yeah, altitude changes, but for commercial
pilots, they have to be intip-top health, and so he
couldn't fly anymore.
We've got another question.
Yeah, Chet, do you do this at ahospital or other facility?

Kevin (36:20):
So where I started here in Fort Worth, they have a
facility of their own.
We had our own ORs.
We do work, sometimes at theME's office, sometimes we do it
at hospitals and normally if wedo it at a hospital, so Oregon
will do it in a regular Oregonoperating room, because you have
to have a surgeon and there's ateam, a whole team, in there
and then the surgeon's ready andonce he calls the death, the

(36:50):
timer starts and then thesurgeons ready and he'll.
Once he calls the death, thetimer starts and then that
happens.
If we're in the hospital, myteam, like the tissue team, will
go in after organs done andwe'll do it in there if they're
not organ patient.
Most of the time it's down atthe complete bottom, bottom,
bottom of the hospital, in thelower depths of hell in there.
But it just depends on funeralhome arrangements, if you have
some or not, if the chaplain atthe hospital will release the
body or not.
There's a whole mix of things.

(37:11):
But yeah, it just depends.
Every scenario is different,seriously.

Tim (37:15):
So do you think this was a good move for you?
As far as what yeah, gettinginto like not really have any
direction whenever you were oh,like work-wise and stuff like
that, absolutely yeah because atthe time I was.

Kevin (37:28):
I mean, the money's great and unfortunately we're the
only species on the planetthat's the pay to live in it so
yeah, ain't that the fucking?
yeah, but no bullshit.
If, if I could do this like asa charity or something, I
absolutely would, yeah, that's,that's one of the reasons why
I'm here, because I believe inthis so much, man, you know and,
and I don't, I don't have likea oh, I'm doing this because my
cousin has an organ transplant.
Like I don't have a story likethat, like the only story I had

(37:49):
of that is actually a reallyhorrible story.
So I do this because I love itso much.
You know it's I help, even evenlike I don't really do organs,
but what I do take of the tissueit helps save.
People live too mentallysometimes yeah, sure, yeah so so
, yes, it was great yeah, that'scool, man, how long how long
did it take for you?

Javier (38:10):
whenever you started?
Did you feel like any likeunease?
Whenever you're starting this,starting this out the first week
?

Kevin (38:18):
yeah, let's see.
My.
My oldest daughter was eight atthe time.
The week I had a dream I wasdoing it to her that I was
cutting her up.
Oh, that's wild.
And I woke up in a cold sweatand I was crying like a fucking
baby.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yeah.

Kevin (38:33):
And I'm not joking.
And two days later I got myfirst check and I was like I'm
over that, it's okay now.
But yeah, it was surreal, man,like when I told you about that
guy that drowned, seeing myfirst case, that was my first
case I was like, oh my.

Tim (38:47):
God dude.
But yeah, and you get to travelall sorts of places, right?

Kevin (38:51):
Well, the company I work for now, yeah, I do like
contract work now, so I do work,1099 work but there's three
banks here in town and there's acouple in Austin and Houston
and San Antonio.
So, yeah, yeah, but I travel tostates Like I spent half a year
in Minnesota and six months inCalifornia last year and yeah,

(39:11):
it was cool man.
So I hope to travel, soopportunities.

Tim (39:15):
right, Javier is checking the sound.

Javier (39:16):
Yeah, it's breaking up.
A little bit it's breaking up,is it me?

Tim (39:20):
No, no, it could just be the feed.

Kevin (39:22):
It's all the ghosts of the people that I've cut up.

Javier (39:25):
Sorry.

Tim (39:26):
Yeah, it happens All right.
So we've covered all that.
Now I want to get intosomething that is near and dear
to your heart, obviously.

Kevin (39:35):
Can I get some statistics ?

Tim (39:36):
Yeah, go for it Before we get into the Rangers.

Kevin (39:39):
let's see, I do have a couple of statistics.

Tim (39:42):
Give us your statistics.
One of the reasons.

Kevin (39:45):
I'm here, so okay, yes, okay.
So every nine minutes someone'sadded to the list okay that's
just in Texas, that's notnationwide, okay, okay.
So every nine minutessomebody's told you need a
life-saving organ.
That's the bad thing.
Also, 17 people die every dayin Texas waiting on a list.
That's why we're trying torecruit so much.

(40:06):
So 17 people every day diewe're looking at me am I gonna
die?

Tim (40:10):
we were no, we were discussing this, uh.
So, uh, I'm an organ donor.
He's not, uh, but we weretalking about that.
We were talking about themisconception of like they won't
save you.
You know, if you, if somethinghappens, they're just gonna let
you die so they can get yourorgans okay.

Kevin (40:25):
So even if you're not an organ donor and let's say you're
just gonna organ or donatetissue, right, so we're always
talking about your skin, yeah.
So let's say there's a burnvictim of a five-year-old kid,
your skin could save that kid'slife.
I would totally do that I thinkyou can stipulate.
You can say all I want to do isdonate my corneas, all I want
to do is donate this.
You can say that too, okay, buteven if you're registered, you

(40:50):
need to know.
this is another thing, everybodyneeds to know, even if you're
registered, we will stillcontact your next of kin for
legal reasons, because there'sbeen cases where families will
come up and say, oh, we didn'tlet them, it's not so we will
contact your next of kin.
That's always going to happen.

(41:11):
And then, if you haven't signed, it, they can decide what they
want you to donate to.
So if you, if you have a plan,you can tell them hey, if this
happens, I want this, this andthis.
That's it.
Yeah, so you can stipulate whatit is too.
So you're all.
There's always going to beprecautions that we're going to
take to make sure we honor thebody, whatever.

Javier (41:26):
I'll ask my mom and see what she wants taken out of me.
Oh, I'm saying this like I'mgoing to do it for everybody.
What can?

Kevin (41:31):
she take out of me.
Okay, so 107,000 are on thenational waiting list,
nationwide, nationwide.
But if you take that plus thenine minutes somebody's added
every day, that number shoots upall the time 10,000 Texans
right now, currently, as oftoday, are on the waiting list
Again, not including the nine10,000?

Tim (41:53):
Oh wow.

Kevin (41:54):
Okay, and I told this earlier, 44% of adults in Texas
are not registered.
So if you're old enough todonate, please register.

Tim (42:06):
I'm a registered because I feel like I'm a hypocrite if I
don't yeah, you're cutting onpeople, but yeah, you know
you're not gonna get my shitlike my wife.

Kevin (42:13):
My wife doesn't want to do, she's in it, so I got her in
it too, and she doesn't want todo it.
I'm just like, well, they'regonna call next to kenzo I'm
gonna say it's okay, you knowwho's got power of?

Javier (42:22):
attorney.
I mean hearing the facts, Imean my big thing and me and Tim
talked about it before you gothere was like, well, they're
going to not take care of you aswell if you're close to like.

Tim (42:38):
I think that maybe like years and years ago, whenever
organ donation probably firstkind of started.
So it's interesting, because wewere talking about this at work
and, um, I have this.
I have a co-worker, um, who'soriginally from mexico city,
okay, and I have anotherco-worker who is uh who is, uh,
hispanic as well, and they wereboth like yeah, we're not gonna

(43:01):
be organ donors because theyjust let brown people die.
What the fuck?
No, and I'm like I they justlet brown people die.

Kevin (43:04):
What the fuck no.

Tim (43:04):
And I'm like, I'm a brown people.

Kevin (43:07):
I was like I don't think that is accurate.

Tim (43:09):
Not at all Now, maybe because I mean the government
did all sorts of fucked up shitlike way back.

Kevin (43:14):
Yeah, don't get me started.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Right Right, we're not going to get started on that
tonight.

Tim (43:19):
That'll be a whole nother episode but I don't think that's
the case.
No, now, because you know youhave ethics committees and all
that stuff and everything'sreally under uh scrutiny when it
comes to the hospital systemsin general yeah, no, it will go
back to the next of kin orreligion.

Kevin (43:34):
Yeah, that's that's it.
Okay, that's that's it.
And there are precautions, likeif something happens and it's
not the next of kin or something, then there are repercussions
and stuff like that andcompanies can lose their license
and credibility and all thatshit.
So yeah, yeah, yeah and hip iswell, there's no more.
What did he take away osha?

Javier (43:51):
he took away osha right he took away osha okay, so hip
is just the uh it's theprotection of privacy well,
that's actually gone.
That's no way.

Kevin (44:01):
Let's see he took that away too.
I'm pretty sure the companiesthat I know and work for still
follow those industry standards.
So, because it's aboutintegrity, you know, and we like
to make sure that everything'shonoring the donor, from when
they get in our hands to when wehand them off.
So you know, let's see you guysany other questions?

Javier (44:23):
yeah, do you think that with the current
administration's health andhuman services cutbacks that
this will be significant, thatthis will be significantly
impacted?

Kevin (44:32):
yes, because of the osha standards being taken away.

Tim (44:36):
Yes, ridiculous yes, um, yeah, I do.

Javier (44:40):
I think I mean again, like you were saying it's with
integrity that these people aredoing it the way it needs to be
done.
So I'm sure even if they'rerolled back, then I think the
people that still do it willcontinue to do it in a way where
they Like I tell people treatthis as if this was your grandma
.

Kevin (45:01):
Do you want your grandma being chopped up in a carne
asada?
Do you want her you know whatI'm saying?

Tim (45:05):
like yeah, like that's what you need to do I mean I do the
same thing on in my whenever Iwas, you know, teaching, you
know new people on, uh, theambulance stuff like that.
Yeah, there's this whole thingwhere people get pissed off
because they have to work.
It's weird it's like you showup to work.
You show up to work and you'remad because you have to work and
um you know what you signed upfor.
I'm always like you can take itout on yourself, you can take it

(45:25):
on your partner, you can takeit out on whatever, but don't
take it on the patient.
You know, treat the patientwith respect.
They called you for service.
They call.
You know you're going out thereto take care of this.
You know that they they want todonate.
You know their tissue orwhatever the family wants to
donate their tissue because theywant to get back.
Yes, you know, treat the personwith dignity right.

Kevin (45:41):
If somebody's acting like they're doing this because it's
a paycheck, I will call theirass out.
I'm serious, I will call theirass out because it's not okay.
Humility-wise, ethnic, you knowsorry, I splintered all those
other words Ethically, empathy,all that shit.
It's not okay.
It's just fucking not okay.

Javier (46:02):
It's like you said it's like what if it's just fucking
not okay, and yeah, I've got ascalpel in my hand.
It's like you said it's likewhat if it's your abuela?
Yeah, and you're not just goingto go in there and just go chop
happy yeah.
You know, so I mean, I guess itmakes sense, yeah, so trying to
think of Any other questionswhatever.

Kevin (46:20):
That's why I'm here we can talk about.

Tim (46:22):
Your wife, says I wish he would hi baby I think that, uh,
I think that cover, I think thatcovers all that, though I mean,
it's good.

Kevin (46:29):
Um, like I said, I've been an organ donor since I was
able to be an organ donor, um,and you deal with a lot because
of what you do, so you see itall the time yeah, and if you
know and I've got you know, I'vegot a personal story that goes
along with it and everything.

Tim (46:41):
So if I can give back to somebody even though I don't
think you want my heart at thispoint, man, I've got
hypertension and all that stuffbut you can take my tendons, you
can take my, we do.
You can take ligaments from me,that's fine.
You want me to tell you what wetake?
I can tell you what we take.

Kevin (46:56):
Yeah, tell me what you take.
Let's see the two bones here.
What do they call them?

Tim (47:01):
Radial ulna.

Kevin (47:02):
Radial ulna Radius ulna.

Tim (47:03):
Yeah, the radius, yeah.

Kevin (47:04):
So your hemipelvis tib fib, femur.
Achilles.
We take the.
What do we take, baby?
Help me out.
Sometimes we take the cartilageright here.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Yeah.

Kevin (47:13):
I will take a heart if it's a cardiac death.
Okay, because you have thethree that.
So these three will save threebabies.

Tim (47:22):
Oh really.

Kevin (47:23):
Like we could take a baby .
A baby's heart's about that big.
That heart will save threeother babies and a bunch of
tendons.

Javier (47:30):
Do those how many?
You have four right.
That are the four holes in yourheart.

Tim (47:35):
If we have four chambers, you have four chambers and you
have three ventricles.

Javier (47:39):
Okay, and so in those, if the heart is bad, then can
you take some chamber and put itinto.

Kevin (47:43):
What we would do is we would take, I don't know.

Tim (47:46):
Not quite.
Hey, he tried.

Kevin (47:47):
Yeah, gotcha Well I didn't know what anatomy until I
started doing this so we wouldtake the entire heart as far and
as far back as these rentalscan go, and as long as they try
to be at least three centimeters.

Tim (48:05):
And that's good for a graft top of your heart.
Just to just kind of rough talkabout it.
You have your aorta that comesup and off and it has an aortic
arch and then it's got basicallythree baffrications that come
off that's what I take, okay,yeah so he's taking those little
, the aortas.

Kevin (48:15):
Uh, the parts of the aorta goes into subclavians and
then yeah, and when we put it,and okay, so when we put it back
together.
The last thing yeah so we doour best to we'll put
prosthetics inside wooden okay,yeah, I gotcha and we'll try to
make it look natural and thentry to make a stitch sewing back
up all the way back up so itlooks as natural as possible in

(48:36):
the casket and we try to be asrespectful as we can that way
too, when you have to understand.

Tim (48:40):
So I've got a friend of mine who, um, he was a paramedic
for a long time and then he, um, he still is, but he also went
to mortuary school too, becausehe wanted to learn to be a
funeral home director I was likedude, that's crazy.
But I mean people, it's needed,it's a needed service, right.
But yeah, I mean once they're,once y'all are done with, with
the, with the person, they'regonna get them and they're gonna
make look even better they takeeverything we do out anyways.

(49:03):
Really.

Kevin (49:04):
Like all the stitching and stuff, because they have to
do the formaldehyde and all thatstuff too, and they're
preparations, but what we do iswe help them not have a big ass
mess.

Tim (49:12):
Right, so that's yeah.
So they're going to go back andthey're going to clean
everything up and it's going tolook good.

Javier (49:24):
Well, I have question.
This may not be like somethingyou might know, maybe.

Kevin (49:26):
Uh, is it true that there's a place in a man's head
that if you shoot it it willblow up.
What is this?

Javier (49:30):
a trick question because I can tell you stories of what
I've seen I'm very no, I I don'twant to ask that question
because, like I've, I know, likeI I usually check the uh metal
medical examiners I've seen someshit, so I've heard, and maybe
you don't know this, but if youdon't use it, you lose it.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
That's true, okay.

Javier (49:49):
Yeah, I mean that makes sense for organ donation.
It does.
If you don't use it you lose it.
And not only do you lose it thepatient loses it too.

Kevin (49:59):
So actually so what is it ?
So actually so?
What is it?
Donatelifetexasorg is where yousign up, please, and if you
have any questions, you cancontact me Quesoblanco81 at.
What is it?
Instagram, and that's all I do,really.
I have a TikTok, but I've neverposted anything.
I just read hateful stuff aboutyou know who yeah me too Okay.

Tim (50:26):
All right.
So you, outside of doing the uh, the, the tissue and all that
stuff, right, you are clearly anavid uh rangers fan I am the
biggest you'll ever know yeah,because, all right, I, for those
that are going to be listeningto us, I can't see on, you know,
because they're not going towatch us, because you don't like
watching us on youtube which Idon't blame you.
We're all ugly um.
Kevin here's gotself-deprecation.
Kevin here's got multipleranger oriented tattoos.

Kevin (50:49):
He's got uh, you got the the trophy I've got the trophy
with the peagle because thepeagle was the first year we had
the peagle.
So power of the peagle dude.

Tim (50:57):
I like the people that was an eight hour tattoo right there
that's beautiful.

Javier (51:00):
I think that's a very nice panther city tattoo oh yeah
, shout out to them.
They did our uh podcast tattoooh cool yeah, so you got that.

Kevin (51:08):
You got the final scoreboard I have the final
scoreboard with, uh, his quoterangers fans, you're not
dreaming.
And then he signed it and hewas like why in the hell do you
want to sign that?
I was like, because you're,I've listened to you my whole
life and you called the game broand he took a picture before
and after I had it.

Javier (51:24):
I saw that I loved it.

Tim (51:25):
But this game was, this whole thing was really important
to you, and I think it'sbecause I'm getting chills,
because your dad right, mygrandpa, your grandpa, yeah, my
grandpa.

Kevin (51:35):
So I don't follow another sport, like I honestly don't
give a shit about any othersport.
Sport college nothing.
I do baseball all year.
Like in high school I letteredall four years in all sports to
keep in shape for baseball, likeit was.
So I'm so baseball emotional,yeah, man uh, I waited 42 years
for this shit yeah literally.

Tim (51:56):
So yes, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's a big thing.
So I mean I don't have anysport that I feel that, like I
don't know, if I have anythingin my life that I feel that,
yeah, it was because of mygrandpa, like you said.

Kevin (52:08):
He was a World War II vet , d-day vet, and baseball was
his life.
He showed me how to play and hetook me to my first game.

Javier (52:17):
Old Arlington Stadium.

Kevin (52:19):
Well, I still have scars on my leg from the bleachers.

Tim (52:23):
I remember the like.
I think I went to one gamebefore they tore that down.

Kevin (52:26):
Yeah, yeah, I went.
He took me on my 21st birthday.
We met Pudge that day.
It was the last game he went tobefore he was healthy and able
to.
But yeah, that was our bond,and so I've never had a
championship in my life.

Tim (52:49):
I don't have one.
So this whole, this wholething's, I mean, it's not just,
uh, so all the the tattoos andeverything, all the rangers,
that that's not just a tributeto the, to the rangers
themselves, but it's a tributeto your yeah, your granddad, my,
my oldest daughter's, namedafter nolan.

Kevin (52:53):
Her name is ray lynn, his first name is lynn, okay and
our three-year-old's named afterbeltré his name her name's
adrian oh yeah and actually atthe all-star game.
Have you seen my Facebookpicture?
It was me and my wife with him.
So we were first in line tomeet him and we got to tell him
and me and my wife were justgetting emotional, we were
balling dude.
And we told him and he was like, are you serious?
And he shook my hand.

(53:13):
The creepy thing was so.
Her name is Camilla Jade, hermiddle name, his daughter, one
of his daughters' name isCamilla daughter.

Tim (53:23):
One of his daughters name is camilla, and we didn't know.

Kevin (53:25):
No, we didn't, we didn't know.
That's crazy, yeah.
And then when we told himthat's when he was like are you
serious?
Yeah, we didn't know, and we,when we found out her name, we
both got chills, like I'mgetting chills now like holy
shit dude, yeah, so yeah, it wasthat's wild yeah it's, it's my
identity.

Javier (53:36):
Yeah it, it is now.

Kevin (53:38):
I mean, this one was also special because we lived
through that heartbreak in 2010and october 27th also special
because we lived through thatheartbreak in 2010 and october
27th, october 27 2010 was whenwe went to the world series and
then the worst day in game sixwas the worst day in team
history and it's all gone now itis.

Javier (53:56):
It wipes everything.
It wipes and and I don't knowif, like I got, I left early
because I didn't want to jinx.
I was at the poor house whenthey moved to 7th street to
walsh god damn, and so I leftthere early so I'm talking about
2011 2011.
I left early so I can go be athome and watch you know well we

(54:17):
were gonna win and um I got analert from cnn that said texas
Texas Rangers win the World.
Series.
It wasn't right after.

Kevin (54:27):
And then, and then the fucking.
I would have broke my phone, Iwould have broke my fucking
phone, yeah man.

Javier (54:32):
I mean, I still have pictures, I have video from
being at work at T-Mobile,because I was still there at the
time we were watching andlistening that entire series.
Yeah, we would watch at worktoo.
Yeah that entire series wewould watch at work too, and we
didn't give a fuck about thecustomers.
We were just like no, this ismore important and the customers
shouldn't have gave a fuck.
Hell, no, what are you doinghere?
Why aren't you watching this?

Kevin (54:51):
game.
I'm really superstitious likethat.
So, okay, no bullshit.
The only playoff game that Iwatched was the Astros game
where Altuve went off and theycame back.
That was the only game Iwatched, and that was because I
was in minnesota.
I was doing everything I could.
It's a baseball town.
I was at a bar and I walked inand they had it on the fucking
screen.
I was like fuck, I'm alreadyhere, I'm gonna eat dinner and
I'm watching it and I'm fuckingcuz and the bartender keeps.

(55:13):
Condolences, man, condolences.
I didn't watch any of the worldseries.
I don't watch anything really Idon't know the last two games I
was, I was in my man cave and mywife was screaming and yelling
and shit.
And then I think it was thelast game, we went up in the
seventh inning.
I think Somebody hit a home run, was it Corey Seager?
Somebody hit a home run in theseventh inning and she came,
babe, babe.
I said are we winning?

(55:33):
She said yeah.
I said let's go.
She said what are you talkingabout?
I said let's go to Academy overwith it's over.
And then when we got there Iwas just a radio and that's when
simeon hit that three run homerand I was just I wanted to go
streaking dude.
I was like it was cold as shit,I don't know yeah so it's a
superstitious thing for you.

Tim (55:50):
You're not gonna like we're in the world series you're not
gonna watch it.

Kevin (55:53):
Well, it depends on how, what I did the first game okay,
yeah, of the playoffs, okay,gotcha uh, yeah, dude, I'm rose
baseball dude, I understand, Imean the only the only game I
didn't watch that entire playoffrun was game six against
houston.

Javier (56:06):
I didn't watch because I game five.
We were.
We lost game five.
That's the game I'm talkingabout.
That I watched, yeah when theycame back.

Kevin (56:13):
Game six, no, game five.

Javier (56:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah fuck, god damn, like I I so I was so
angry, I was like if I watch,we're gonna lose.

Tim (56:21):
I didn't.
I didn't watch any of it.
Um, we were.
I was at a, I was at a partyand they had it on and we were
at a we're at tara oh no, butthat was the world series game
two.

Javier (56:33):
That was game two, world series.

Tim (56:34):
Right, we lost and we lost and I was like I don't need to
watch this anymore, because Ifelt I felt it was because I was
watching it because, I've hadthese, I've had these times
where um.
So I I like the mavs.

Kevin (56:45):
Well, I don't like the mavs now that's a whole nother
story.
Yeah, I'm, I'm mad at nico too,that's.

Tim (56:49):
That's a that's a whole nother story, anyways, but I
like the, I like, I like themavs, I liked the mavs and, um,
I was enjoying, uh, watchingthem, but I I turned the tv on
and all of a sudden we're likewe were doing good.
You know the previous games andthis game that I decided to
watch.
We're just sucking so bad.
So then I don't want to watchit because I feel like as long
as I don't watch it.

Kevin (57:09):
We're gonna do okay no yeah, I have that whole silver
linings playbook thing whereit's like, okay, you gotta sit
right here, you know, and dude,2011, I was on my couch and if
we, if we scored a home run, Idid not move until we got outs
or didn't score an inning orsomething.

Tim (57:24):
I did not fucking move on my couch, yeah there's a lot of
there's asking are you talkingabout the uh astros postseason
game when the bench is cleared?

Kevin (57:31):
oh, whenever they hit a uh a bully when, uh, when all
they did was wake up the astros.

Tim (57:36):
Yeah, it was induced.
No, it wasn't that game, so I Idrove down, I drove all the way
down to um.
I drove down to houston, okay,um to eat at to eat at an old
school Pizza Hut buffet.

Javier (57:50):
Oh okay, it was the old school building.

Tim (57:52):
They still had a buffet, found out.
They only do it on Mondaythrough Friday.

Javier (57:57):
So we get down there Like for lunch or something.

Tim (57:59):
Yeah, it's a Saturday, oh, okay, so we had to order pizza,
but we went down there for that,and then the Rangers were also
playing the Astros, and so wewent and saw um the rangers play
down there I haven't fuckinglike.
I like the stadium.
The stadium's beautiful, it's,it's, it's great.
You're sitting like where wesat at.
You're looking out these bigwindows that overlooks downtown
like it does, oh yeah okay, yeah, the stadium's great.

(58:20):
Yeah, I've never been the astrofans.
I don't think you'd ever wantto go I.

Kevin (58:24):
I used to hate the yankees because of their fans,
yeah, but the astro fans are theworst fucking fans.
You know why?
Because all of a sudden, for 10years they were good, and
before that they weren't shit,so now they're all.

Javier (58:34):
Oh fuck, you know like maybe a couple pictures from
like 98.

Kevin (58:39):
Yes, yeah, yeah you know, like the whole silver boot
thing, we won the silver bootalmost every year until they
started getting good Like yeahand no, fuck, fuck that.

Tim (58:48):
But I will say I mean it's a beautiful stadium, like it
really is.

Kevin (58:53):
Is it comparable to ours?
That's what I haven't.

Tim (58:55):
I haven't been to ours yet.

Kevin (58:57):
We're going.
I'm going yeah, we got a month,ok of the month.
Oh, okay.
I was like, well, fuck,actually I have a ticket we're
going for a.

Tim (59:04):
I have an extra ticket.
Friday we're doing a man Igotta work.
Friday we're doing Glizzy.
We're doing a Glizzy day.

Kevin (59:10):
You gotta go get a Glizzy ticket.
Oh, is it like Dollar Hot Dogkind of stuff?

Tim (59:13):
They're giving Glizzy hats.

Kevin (59:14):
Yeah, the golf hat.

Javier (59:15):
I did see those.

Kevin (59:16):
Oh yeah.

Tim (59:21):
So I got tickets for that.
And I got tickets for itbecause I'm also a Stars fan and
I'm doing Stars night because Iwant to get that jersey.

Kevin (59:25):
That jersey is fucking sick.
I got the Peacock jersey lastyear.
Oh my God.
The Stars jersey.
Yeah, the new one, the one thatreleased this year, it's white.

Javier (59:37):
It's the cream, this one's the cream with the TX.
This, yeah, of course.
Son of a bitch.

Kevin (59:40):
This was the first year I got every giveaway I wanted to
get ever.
It was the first year I everdid.
I've got a whole fucking shelfat the house, dude.

Javier (59:47):
It's so cool.
This is going to be our fourthyear going on Mexican Heritage
Night, where we get the jersey.

Tim (59:54):
The jersey last year was bad.
I like this year's jerseybetter.
I think I haven't seen it, Isit?

Kevin (59:57):
the multicolored one this year.

Javier (59:59):
No man I have to pull it up, but I have all three.
I think the first year I gotwas red, the second was a black
but the material was pretty bad,but the one from last year was
it was gold, right, yeah, goldtrim, black with gold trim.

Kevin (01:00:11):
That's it, yes, that thing was so fucking baller.
And you know what's badass aboutthe giveaway jerseys?
Now, they were better thanthose shitty Nike jerseys that
were wearing last year.
You know that shit, that'sridiculous.
Um, so, on my on my worldseries thing.
So I I bought a patch of a onesquare foot patch of turf the
outfield turf, because they theychange them every two years.

(01:00:32):
Yeah, so it says on there thiswas an all-star game, this was a
world series also.
So I actually bought a uh, atrophy from a company, I don't
remember what it's calledBradford exchange or something
like that, whatever it's.
I've got that on there likethat, with a Bochy ring and a a
season ticket holder ring andthen Corey Seeger's bobblehead

(01:00:52):
where he's screaming.
That's yeah.
That's my centerpiece of theworld series thing.
There, dude, and I did.
I had flags on the front of myhouse and, uh, the fat, you know
the fat heads, right, yeah?
So I bought these big ass fatheads and I put them on my car
window, dude, like they're notsupposed to go in your car
window, but I took over myfucking hole yeah dude, I don't
give a fuck.
I don't need to see anything Istill got my flag.

Javier (01:01:13):
I haven't unfurled.
I want to put in my garage, butyeah, I have no room to put it.

Kevin (01:01:17):
Yeah unfortunately they fade, because I went to
california last year for workand I came back and they were
like TCU purple.

Javier (01:01:23):
Really.

Kevin (01:01:23):
Yeah, dude, it sucks.
They're like 35 bucks.
I gotta replace them.

Javier (01:01:27):
On the group chat let's see.
After the news broke in 2017, Icannot fucking be around them,
minus one friend.
I guess we're talking aboutHouston 2017?
.

Tim (01:01:35):
That's a glizzy hat.
That's a glizzy hat.
Yeah, the glizzy hat's good.

Javier (01:01:39):
So gee Gladys, she's a Dodgers fan.
I'm sorry, and so obviously theyear oh 2017.

Kevin (01:01:47):
I see now, okay, condolences, but it's okay
because y'all have like three orfour rings and y'all have Otani
.
You got the best lineup inbaseball right now and one of
the best rotations, and stillhave Kershaw who won't fucking
retire.

Javier (01:02:01):
This is his last contract.
I think this is going to be hislast two years.

Kevin (01:02:04):
Scherzer's got to retire.
I thought he should retire lastyear, but it's okay.

Javier (01:02:09):
He can still get a check though.

Kevin (01:02:10):
No, yeah, no, dude, he still makes a shit ton of money
from the Nationals, bro.
Yeah, I actually got to see himpitch.
Okay, long story short, he cameup and was like we got to get
him.
We got to get him.
It never fucking happened,right.
So we got him in 2023.
I was all happy.
We traded for him.
When I was in Minnesota, Iplanned one of my work trips
because the Rangers were thereand I got to see him fucking

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pitch.
My only time I ever saw himpitch was a win that day and I
was like, fuck, yes, I got tosaw my favorite pitcher pitch
man.

Javier (01:02:48):
It was great man.
And now we uh, we're doing good.
The season's been.
We've only got two losses.
I know the other night we wasit was a 14 to 3.

Kevin (01:02:52):
Yeah, because uh dela cruz has one of them tornado
bats man, so so now we're gonnaget this change.

Javier (01:02:57):
It's gonna be uh, that's I kind of like it, that's
serapi uh, yeah, I like that.

Tim (01:03:01):
I like I'm down for that.
I kind of want to get that.

Kevin (01:03:03):
My old lady's going to like that.

Tim (01:03:05):
I feel like I shouldn't wear it, though, because I'm
culturally appropriating orwhatever you have the molest
dash.

Kevin (01:03:10):
Yeah, it's fine.
It's fine, my wife was likewho's going to be there?
I was like, well, you'll seeJavier and Tim.

Tim (01:03:19):
And she said the Asian Heritage Night one looks pretty
good too.
Is it coming with chopsticks?
No, dude but it's got a big oldsnake on the back of it.

Kevin (01:03:27):
That's pretty sick.
That's some Cobra Kai shit.
Yeah, I like it, I like it.

Javier (01:03:30):
You're the I would fucking.
Now I need to go through andcheck and see which of these is
sold out or not, because wealways, whenever we go to the
Mexican Heritage Night, wealways go with a group of ranger
fans that have been going forlike the longest time and, um,
they always get the thesetickets always like the mexican

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heritage night.

Kevin (01:03:50):
Is that also the?
I?
I should know this.
Is that also the extra ticketyou got to buy like a?
Theme night ticket, but youhave to buy okay those are the
things I don't get, because Ican always find those on second
market yeah for most of the timepretty cheap, you know.
So, like this year, I don'tever get the Whataburger jersey,
but Burger is the jerseythey're using.

Javier (01:04:08):
Oh yeah, so that's fucking happening.
Speaking of which, one of thefunniest names of a player is
Jake Burger.

Kevin (01:04:14):
Jake Burger If his nickname isn't Cheese.
It's an astonishing travesty toour English language.
And Whatab and water burgerbetter like pick them up as a
sponsor and every time he hits ahome run like if it's a single
home run he should be he hit aburger, double cheeseburger,
triple cheeseburger, you knowthey should be doing a giveaway
for like, if he hits you know,yeah if he hits a home run of
six, you get a doublecheeseburger.

Javier (01:04:34):
Yeah it's kind of like the.
There's a player on like themiami heat.
Every time he scores his nameis like timmy something, and
people were like that we don'tknow if that's right or not.
I don't know how, uh, we didn'tfucking do that if he scores.

Kevin (01:04:48):
If he scores 50, you get a free handicap wheelchair
rental the stream what ourstream keeps dropping.

Tim (01:04:56):
I'm gonna work on that.

Kevin (01:04:57):
Y'all keep talking okay, so dildos and assholes dildos
and ass.

Javier (01:05:01):
There should what'sos and assholes.
What's that song?
Was it George Strait that singsit?
Guitars and Cadillacs.

Kevin (01:05:07):
No, that's Dwight Yoakam.
Dwight Yoakam, he didn't writeit, but that's yeah, it should
be dildos and dinosaurs.
Something funny like that.
Dildos and Cadillacs Slap herin her ass.

Javier (01:05:18):
So, speaking of which I know this is going to be, we'll
link this up with some notes,but it's still recording.

Kevin (01:05:23):
Right, it's still recording Audio.
Yeah, yeah, okay, I'm naked.
We just can't be racist,because racism gets you canceled
?

Javier (01:05:29):
No, not really.

Kevin (01:05:29):
No, I mean no, yeah, you can lead the country.

Javier (01:05:32):
Yeah, absolutely, you can lie, cheat and steal.
If Eddie Guerrero was stillalive then he would probably run
um.
But yeah, no I I think umbaseball has gotten better.
Last year wasn't so goodbecause all the injuries for us.

Kevin (01:05:49):
For us, yeah, um, it was really bad.
We've had actually had worseyears in injuries, in injuries.
But yeah, last year was worldseries hangover or not.

Javier (01:05:58):
Yeah, if you have that many injuries, you're not gonna
fucking, you're not gonna doanything you're not gonna go
anywhere, which, so you know Imean the same thing, and and the
the season I love talking aboutis the 09 season yeah, and I
love that season because we hada chance that final game, I
think was against the the.
Was it the red sox?
We were supposed to win thelast game of the season and they

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had us like.
So we were, we were gonna,we're supposed to win to make
the playoffs and um oh, nine,right, oh, it was them.
Or the mariners, I think but wewere supposed to win against
the red socks in order to makeit in and we just had such a
good squad and they were sayingwell, this next year this
rangers team has a chance yeah,to make it.

Kevin (01:06:40):
that was right before josh hamilton blew up like he
was here, but it was before hebecame our Babe Ruth, yeah.

Javier (01:06:45):
Yeah, and then that 2010 was a magical season.
We went the way we, and thestadium is a great sign of
winning that the temple man,dude.

Kevin (01:06:56):
There needs to be a documentary about that year,
because that's the year that TomHicks, the fucking douchest bag
ever, sold the team.
Well, he lost the team and theleague owned it.
And then it went to auctiondowntown fort worth and mark
cuban and nolan ryan are goingback and forth till four o'clock
in the morning bidding on thefucking team, like why is there
not a documentary about thisshit?
I was following this shit ontwitter back then because there

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was reporters in there.
They were seriously going backand forth to buy the rangers.
Can you imagine if, mark cubanon the fucking rangers dude,
we'd have moved to dallas?
I would have not been a fanyeah, they've been wild, that,
yeah, yeah you know, but it was.
It was tom hicks, that joshhamilton going through his shit.
You know there was injuriesthat year too up and it was.

Tim (01:07:36):
That was a crazy fucking year, dude do you remember, uh,
the old ballpark, whenever, notnot the first one, but the the
temple do you remember wheneverthere was those guys that fell
from like one of the balconies?

Kevin (01:07:48):
that was Josh Hamilton caught a ball and that guy was a
fireman and there's actuallythere's a statue of him at the
ballpark.
Yeah, so there's.

Tim (01:07:56):
He threw a ball there was two of them.
There was two people.

Kevin (01:07:59):
There's two people that fell on the same time, no
different times.
There was two people.

Tim (01:08:03):
Yeah, one person died who was a fire that's the guy I'm
thinking about.

Kevin (01:08:06):
Yep, I actually met josh hamilton the day after that yeah
, so there was.

Tim (01:08:09):
There was one dude that died.
That was a firefighter.
The other person that fell wasalso a firefighter like in the
same.
Like in the same same type ofsituation kind of um, not drunk,
uh, something, I can't rememberwhat he wasn't reaching for a
ball yeah it was something else.
Anyways, the same year, uh,yeah, um, yeah, what the fuck.
Yeah, so he fell um andwhenever he fell he fell like 30

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feet.
Um, yeah, he lived.
I know the guy uh you know thedude I know the dude, um anyways
.
So here's what's crazy, is thatso this guy falls, he dies or
nothing.
That falls and dies, but hefalls, gets injured, all that.
So it was caught on camera bythe other team.

Javier (01:08:48):
Do you remember who it was?

Tim (01:08:49):
I cannot remember, but the other team's got it on camera on
film.
After he got out of thehospital, everything was okay.
He was brought up to theballpark, him, and the guys from
his shift came up there withhim.
He was able to watch it as manytimes as he wanted to.
The film of him falling, yep,and then um, and then that was
it.

(01:09:09):
that film's gone like oh, noshit, yep yeah, oh, so it
happened to be caught on theircameras or whatever that they
were.
Yeah, it wasn't caught by, uh,any feed like espn or anything
like that so you think there'sno copy of this anymore?
No, unless somebody happened tobe filming it or something, or
whatever.
Anyways Well, what year wasthat, Dude?
I'd have to look.

Kevin (01:09:28):
It would be too grainy.
If it was a camera phone, yeah,it would.

Javier (01:09:30):
The quality wouldn't have been it wasn't a Samsung
flip phone, yeah maybe what year?

Kevin (01:09:36):
was that that had to be?
It was 2010 or 11 is when itwas.

Tim (01:09:43):
So he's out fishing one day after this happens, he's better
and everything's good andlife's good.
And he gets a phone call and heanswers it.
He doesn't recognize the number.
He answers the phone number andhe's like hey, so-and-so, this
is Nolan Ryan.
He's like shut your mouth.
So he was like no, it's not, ithung up on him.

Kevin (01:10:02):
That's a good impression, son.
So he was like no, it's not.
And hung up on him.
That's a good impression, son.

Tim (01:10:04):
That's what I would say Like hung up on him, like
straight up hung up on him,calls him back.
He's like no, this is actuallyNolan Ryan.
It's Nolan Ryan, and yeah, sowhile Nolan still was really
involved in the team he actuallyhad, so he was giving lifetime
tickets.

Kevin (01:10:19):
I was going to say did he get season tickets or something
?

Tim (01:10:21):
Dude like for life, sitting like down by where, basically
where George W goes to sit whenNolan would sit, basically Down
in that area Damn, that's reallygood.

Kevin (01:10:30):
I wonder if they transferred to the team.

Tim (01:10:31):
I don't think they did.
No, yeah, I don't think theydid.

Kevin (01:10:34):
Because I know they compensated for that other guy's
funeral and they paid for hisson's college or some shit like
it.
They, they hooked him up, man.
So are there any rangerquestions?
I'd like to answer some rangerquestions is there any ranger
questions?

Javier (01:10:45):
I can't.
Yes, there you go um.

Tim (01:10:46):
So a male fan fell off the club level in section 235 onto
the lower deck oh yeah, so hehit this like um he said he, he
what he remembered faultwhenever he remembered falling
um, everything got real silentbefore he hit like the
adrenaline.
Whatever he remembers that hejust remembers this loud pop

(01:11:07):
which was the um like.
Whenever he came off he grabbed, like tried to grab the, the
cable or whatever and it just.
No, it just the cable popped,like it just made a real loud
sound.
Yeah, yeah, so it was.
It was just wild that he uhyeah, nolan ryan calls him up
and uh that's fucking dope, butit's funny he hung up on nolan
ryan.

Kevin (01:11:26):
Yeah, I would have passed , I mean, but think about it.
If somebody says they're nolanryan, you're not gonna be like,
okay, who the fuck is this?
No, I'd have been the samething.

Javier (01:11:33):
Sure, gary, fuck you.
You're a fucking liar.

Kevin (01:11:36):
You don't even know a Gary, you're just like okay,
gary, all right, so I've got aquestion for you.

Tim (01:11:40):
Whatever.
So what makes Rangers fansdifferent from the other Texas
sports fans?

Kevin (01:11:53):
Before 2023, it was the.
Okay.
I'm not trying to be a dick,but you know how it's been 30
years for the Cowboys, yeah,yeah.
Imagine going through that,never having a championship ever
for the team Times infinityRight.
Because, well, like people likeme who don't follow another
sport, this kind of fucked up.
What I say most Ranger fans areare fair weather fans that
always root for the Cowboys, nomatter what those fans that
always root for the cowboys, nomatter what those fans that

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you're two and ten and we'restill going to the superbowl.
Those are the most of the fansthat are cow or that are rangers
fans.
That's one of the things Ithink is different.
The other thing is this this isnot a baseball town it's, it's
really it's not it's not evenwith the world series and shit,
blah blah.
Like the cowboys suck this year.
But the Cowboys are going to be.

Tim (01:12:36):
I mean you look at like Chicago Wrigley Field.
Oh yeah, gorgeous.

Kevin (01:12:41):
Baseball town Dude baseball baseball town.
I went there, the same thinglike the Yankees.
I mean, I hate the Yankees, butNew York, that's a fun one.
New York, boston Like I said, Iwas in Minneapolis Baseball
baseball.
If you're a Rangers fan here,you're a Rangers fan, rangers
fan, but you also likeeverything else.
That's the thing Sure.
There are Cubs fans like me thatfuck every other sport.

(01:13:04):
It's Cubs, cubs, cubs.
That's it.
That's your life and that's.
You know, eddie, what's up?
Eddie, he's like me.
We don't like anything else,you know, that's it.
But there's not a lot of peoplelike us.
So Ranger fans are few and farbetween that are diehard fucking
, you know, just bummer.
So that's what's different.
It's because of the Cowboys, iswhat's different.

(01:13:25):
And it sucks.

Javier (01:13:27):
I think the group that we're friends with, like they're
pretty old.

Kevin (01:13:35):
They're in, they're like early, late 50s I will say don't
say my they're in their late50s like early 60s.

Javier (01:13:39):
I think I want to say I don't want to be disrespectful,
and one of them is uh one ofthem is uh, she is uh.
What is that for?
Fort worth isd.
She's one of the councilmembers.
Her family, super nintendosuper nintendo chalmers.
Um, but they, they're fuckingdie hard.
They go every year and they goto as many games as they can

(01:13:59):
yeah every theme night that theycan go to and I just like
you're right, you're.
If you're a fan, if you're anactual fan, that's it that's it,
you don't care about any.
You don't care about the cowboys, you don't care about the stars
like the mavericks, not being acowboy fan.

Kevin (01:14:15):
Being from here is one of the hardest fucking things I've
had to deal with, because I'veactually had girlfriends where
their family found out I hatedthe cowboys and they were
telling you better leave himlike for real.
For real, you need to leave himalone because he doesn't like
cowboys.

Tim (01:14:28):
It's ridiculous, it's like a cult dude, it's true, really
is.
I tried.
So I tried to get our friendgroup to all right this year.
For football we all commit to adifferent team.
It can't be Kansas City,because it can't be any team
that went to the Super Bowl.

Kevin (01:14:49):
So Bengals Browns?

Tim (01:14:50):
No, no, no, no, no you can go for the ones that have been
to the Super Bowl.
I'm just talking about noKansas City and what's it?
Why is my mind?

Javier (01:14:58):
blank who they?

Tim (01:14:59):
played?
Who did Kansas City play theEagles?

Javier (01:15:02):
Oh, fuck the Eagles.
I mean fuck them, Fuck Philly.

Tim (01:15:04):
No Kansas City, no Eagles right.

Javier (01:15:06):
Fucking Philly.

Tim (01:15:16):
You got to pick a fresh team.
You had to pick a fresh teamfor this year.
You're gonna commit fully.
You're gonna buy the merch,you're gonna follow the team
you're gonna, you're gonnacommit for this for this year,
right, okay, and thismotherfucker's like I can't do
it.

Javier (01:15:27):
I can't do it.
I was spoiled, religious.

Kevin (01:15:29):
I was fucking spoiled we got three championships exactly
eggs.
I was alive for that shit andeven back then I didn't like
football, but I was like man butwe've been abused.

Tim (01:15:38):
If you're cowboys, you've been abused this entire time by
jerry jones and it's time tobasically tell the dude you know
, fuck off the old saying ofjerry the.

Kevin (01:15:46):
What is it?
Jerry the gm needs to find,jerry the boss needs to fire
jerry the gm, something shitlike that, like.

Javier (01:15:50):
My first sports cry was uh, nfc championship 94, green
bay, no, uh, um san francisco ohyeah, that was a good game.
That was my first fucking cry,sports cry yeah, and what?

Kevin (01:16:03):
so?
You're like 10 years youngerthan me, right?
You're 34, 39 to 39 okay, soabout five years, so yeah, so I
mean, that was my first memory.

Javier (01:16:12):
Like was the the super bowl, um?
And the only reason I rememberis because they had the blue and
silver m&ms and I was like thisis cool.
Let's watch this game, and sothat was the first football game
that I ever saw was that superbowl.
Yeah, because of the m&ms yes,and like after that I boom got

(01:16:33):
to get the fucking starterjacket, like.
And I still remember Super Bowl30 when I was in fifth grade
and I remember the school waslike putting banners up like we
were.
We were put, I wrote the boysare back in the bowl and shit
like that.
Yeah, looking back, fuck me.

Tim (01:16:51):
Fuck myself.
Yeah, so I'm a.
You know on Football Talk, I'mgoing to commit to the old
cheeseheads, Okay.

Javier (01:16:59):
Jordan Love's a good quarterback.

Tim (01:17:01):
Yeah, I'm going to commit to them.
We go basketball real quick.
I'm not a fan of the Mavsanymore.
I don't think anybody is, noone's a fan of the Mavs anymore,
and you know what sucks.

Kevin (01:17:12):
What's really stupid is they traded Luka and then raised
the fucking prices.
What the dumb shit.
You're going backwards.
I'm not even a fan and I'm likeyou, dumb motherfucker.
He's averaging a triple-double,he averages a triple-double and
you're going to trade him foreyebrows.

Javier (01:17:28):
Yeah, it was stupid.
I said this three years agothat he was going to go to the
lakers, like whenever he signedhis super max contract because
look, mark would have paid thesuper max.

Kevin (01:17:37):
Fuck yeah, he would have, he wouldn't.
He wouldn't even waited for himto ask him.
He would have been like, hey,here, your contract's ready,
you're ready to sign it.
Yeah, no, sorry to interruptyou.

Tim (01:17:45):
No, you're good, you're good, um, so I just said I'm
trying to convince him justcommit to another team this year
uh, if I'm gonna look, gladyssays raiders, okay, go raiders.

Kevin (01:17:56):
I mean, but oakland or la , it depends on how far back you
go oakland, la, or now lasvegas yeah, oh, yeah, that's
right I mean, if you're gonna bereal, you gotta be oakland,
right?

Javier (01:18:08):
yeah, you gotta be, you gotta be ice cube, ice cube, uh
raiders you gotta be yeah sofunny story um the.

Kevin (01:18:14):
When I was growing up, you reminded me of your Super
Bowl story.
The first NBA team I ever knewof was the Celtics.
Because of growing up in the90s watching Cheers with my mom,
I'm serious.
Yeah, and so I followed theCeltics all the way up until I
was almost-.

Tim (01:18:28):
So if it's not the Mavs, it's the Celtics.
Yeah, so if it's not the Mavs,it's the Celtics.

Kevin (01:18:30):
Yeah, yeah.
And also no bullshit.
The Red Sox?
The same fucking reason.
Because Sam Malone man, samMalone dude.
Yeah, I'm a Larry Bird fan.

Tim (01:18:38):
Yeah, I don't know if you I mean you love baseball,
baseball's your whole thing Iwould implore you to watch.
There's a documentary on HBOand it's about Larry Bird and
Matthew Johnson.

Kevin (01:18:52):
It's fucking great.

Tim (01:18:53):
I know other sports, I know , but just the trash talking oh
man.
And he can back it up.
That was the thing he can trashtalk and back it up.

Kevin (01:19:03):
Dude.
He was better at that thanIverson and Dennis Rodman 100%,
oh my.

Tim (01:19:07):
God, dennis Rodman couldn't back it up.
He was good, but he didn't havethe gumption that you had with
Larry Bird.
He was good, but he didn't havethe gumption that you had with
Larry Bird.

Kevin (01:19:14):
No, he had the elbows.
Yeah, he sure did.
He averaged like a half a pointa game and made millions and
millions.

Tim (01:19:21):
I met Dennis Robin.
One time Dress or no dress.
Dress 100% dress.
No bullshit, no bullshit, 100%dress with two other people that
were in dresses that were justas tall and just as big as he is
.

Kevin (01:19:34):
But they weren't players.
They just no, no, they justthey were out and it was in
vegas.

Tim (01:19:37):
I was at the um went to las vegas is my first time going to
las vegas.
We were staying at treasureisland.
I think he owned a club thatwas at treasure island and
that's why he was there orsomething.
Anyways, I'm walking throughthe thing and I look and I'm
like holy shit, you're dennisrobin.
He just kind of looks at me.
He's like yeah, I am, and andthat was our internet, that was

(01:19:57):
a bunch of interaction, but hesmiled at me, said yeah, and he
just walked out.
But he's a full-on fucking dragno shit.

Kevin (01:20:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, that was his mo man, okay.
So I have a question then who'sthe most famous people y'all
have ever met like legitimatelymet dude, legitimately?
Met and actually had, like, nota conversation, but just like
you actually spoke to them fornot and this doesn't include
going to a concert and paying toget backstage on.
It was bullshit, Like no.

Tim (01:20:22):
Well, we know you're.

Javier (01:20:23):
I'm not going to say Kanye, because it's yeah, I
remember that, but I mean that'sprobably like one of the famous
, more famous people you've met.

Kevin (01:20:28):
Yeah, and that was when was it cheaper than dirt?

Javier (01:20:30):
Where was it at oh Defender Outdoors over there, by
where I work on University?

Kevin (01:20:37):
Oh, that's okay, yeah, yeah.

Javier (01:20:39):
But Donald Glover, because I actually had a
conversation with him.
Childish campaign yeah, yeah,and I was drunk and it was at
the Bud Light Hotel.
Anthony invited me to the BudLight Hotel Super Bowl party.

Kevin (01:20:49):
When the Super Bowl was here.
Yeah, oh God, I have a storyabout that.
Dude, I can't think of-.

Javier (01:20:53):
I'm like Forrest Gump dude Bro, what a week that was.

Kevin (01:20:55):
I used to work security at the stadium and that was my
last game I worked was the SuperBowl.
No shit, one of the worstfucking days of my life.

Tim (01:21:02):
I imagine, yes, that's going to be a nightmare.

Javier (01:21:04):
It was like a 21-hour.
That's the only week I'm likefucking.

Tim (01:21:11):
Tammy, here we go.

Javier (01:21:13):
That was the only week you could drive drunk and get
away with it.

Kevin (01:21:16):
There was no cops anywhere, bro, and the ice, it
was ice everywhere.
I actually got in a wreck liketwo days before Super Bowl
because this dude T-boned me.
He went to a stop and then hejust went, kept going and just
boom hit me like this Dude.

Javier (01:21:26):
that was like every night that week because I still
going to tcc I'm trying to I'mtrying to think, man, though I
can't like I.

Tim (01:21:34):
I mean I met dennis robbins , just a quick conversation, um.
I mean I met the lead singer totody's a bunch of times that is
cool shit.

Kevin (01:21:42):
I see him at the rodeo goat all the time.
He loves it really.
Yeah, he's got an old man.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
He's got an old.

Javier (01:21:47):
Yeah, he still rocks it out, though he does he does um
but no, that was because I I wason espPN every day that week
yeah, I was on TV.

Kevin (01:21:54):
Oh, downtown, yeah, that's kick-ass dude, that's
fucking they set up shots behindme.

Javier (01:21:59):
No shit, they fuck you because you know, I had that big
red, obnoxious cowboy hat foam.
How about cowboy?
And they, they were giving himaway.
Oh my shit, I was in the veryfront like is it the NFC?

Kevin (01:22:13):
because that's their NFC color, like red, or I don't
remember how I got it, but I doremember it was huge.

Javier (01:22:20):
I have the picture and I took pictures with a bunch of
people on ESPN and I hadMichelle Beadle sign the back of
my phone and there's picturesof her.
Like I don't want to sign yourphone, I'm going to use it, but
every day that week I was on TV.

Kevin (01:22:34):
That's fucking kick-ass, dude On.
Espn, that's fucking kick-assdude.
Now when I tell you I'm notgoing to include Super Bowl,
because I was there working andmy entrance was a celebrity
entrance, so I touched a bunchof people and stuff, so I'm not
going to count that because itwas violating me.

Tim (01:22:51):
I can't think of Nicki Minaj.

Kevin (01:22:53):
Nicki Minaj?
Yeah, I don't know who she wasat the time.

Javier (01:22:57):
I can't think of oh no, that's weird.

Tim (01:22:58):
I don't want to smell anybody.
I can't think of anybody man.
I can't think of a singleperson there's gotta be somebody
there has to be.
I mean Ed Ed Tuttle Jones.

Kevin (01:23:06):
I met him that's dude, that's big, that's big time, ed
actually had a conversation withdude.

Tim (01:23:12):
I actually met him at Best Buy.
Oh, no shit, he was doing abook signing.
It was weird when we sold booksthere.
So I met Ed what the fuck.

Javier (01:23:20):
We sold books there.
Yeah, dude, did you meet KellyClarkson whenever she went over
there?

Kevin (01:23:23):
No, I didn't meet her.
I saw her.

Tim (01:23:24):
Met.

Kevin (01:23:25):
Pat Green.
I saw Pat Green there.

Tim (01:23:40):
Dude, I met Sean Patrick that from uh boondock saints he
was not norman reedus, theopposite of norman reedus.

Kevin (01:23:43):
Um sean patrick flannery um again, you're the guy from
that thing that I know.

Tim (01:23:44):
Yeah I'm trying to think, uh, I mean, it was still like a
little, just conversation umtough heateman uh met him.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
Oh, tough I've met, tough I.

Kevin (01:23:52):
I know that guy.
He's like 5'4".

Tim (01:23:56):
He's not a real.
I mean, most bull riders arepretty short yeah.

Kevin (01:23:59):
Not a real big guy.

Tim (01:24:00):
Cody Lambert, famous bull rider.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Steve Burkle.

Tim (01:24:04):
Established PBR.
I've met him.
Yeah, I mean, I met thoserandom people.

Kevin (01:24:15):
Actually Super Bowl.

Tim (01:24:15):
I didn't meet him but I saw screech.
I used to work at target downthat one on seventh.

Kevin (01:24:17):
Yeah, dustin old, dustin diamond yeah, that was like I
think that was like two or threemonths before he died.
Oh god, yeah, he was out theredrunk like he was walking in our
parking lot drunk and I wassecurity and I they were telling
me go.
I was like that's screech, I'mnot gonna tell screech to leave
no, you tell him dude.

Javier (01:24:29):
I was like let me, let me be fucking drunk his big old
porn, diggler dick, you knowwhat?

Kevin (01:24:33):
I'm saying he's a porn star.
God damn Fucking.
Third leg.

Javier (01:24:36):
It's still out there.
Let's see Different sportsquestion.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Do you?

Javier (01:24:39):
all think the FIFA may pull out of the World Cup being
hosted in the US, all I know is.
I heard pull out and I don'tknow what that is.
I'm going to say no becauseInfantino, the guy who runs FIFA
.
Now we got the Club World Cuphappening, I think at the end of
the year, and old Trumpy boysgot the trophy sitting in his

(01:24:59):
office next to that goddamnshitty.
I was going to say Bank ofAmerica, gulf of America,
picture he's got.

Kevin (01:25:07):
The Declaration of Independence.
I bet he thinks it's the realone.
That's why he's got a drapesover it.

Javier (01:25:15):
They got a movie named National Treasure.

Tim (01:25:20):
And this is from the movie National.

Javier (01:25:21):
Treasure.
Nicolas Cage stole it and Ihave it here in my office.
What?

Kevin (01:25:26):
am FIFA?
I don't know, it's not baseball, oh yeah, no.

Javier (01:25:30):
So I mean you've met him .
What's the?
You said Nicki Minaj, but whatelse?
Well, okay.

Kevin (01:25:33):
Well, I had to frisk people in the Super Bowl, and
that was one.
I didn't know who the fuck shewas.
I'm not, I wasn't, I'm stillnot, attracted to her man.
What's that?

Javier (01:25:42):
in your ass.

Kevin (01:25:47):
Well, this guy another guy that was working with him, a
cow looking at a new gate, likeuh-huh, he's like nicky, but he
kept saying it, like like I'mknow who the fuck she is if she,
he kept saying her name, I'mlike I don't know who the fuck
that is, dude, I'm sorry, and Iturn around and jason whitton's
right there I mean, I met the,I've met, uh, I met the guys for
uh well, they're rip, but uh uh, diamond vinnie for pantera

(01:26:11):
okay, I have actually that's oneof mine.
I have a story.
It's a lifelong story, but Imean just met.

Tim (01:26:20):
What's his face?
Jarrett Reddick, from Bowlingfor Soup.

Kevin (01:26:23):
Oh, that's the big dude, right, yeah, the big big dude.
Yeah, yeah, he's cool, he's alead singer.

Tim (01:26:29):
Yeah, met him several times now, but met him several times
now.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
But yeah, I mean, yeah, some other bands and stuff
, like I didn't pay to meet them.

Tim (01:26:40):
They just right um.
I played pool with the guysfrom yellow card, but it was
random, like we were, so I wasat, uh, I was at the ridgely
theater and um yellow card wasjust.
They just released their veryfirst album it's before ocean
avenue and all that is this bestby days?

Kevin (01:26:50):
uh, it had to be because ocean avenue came out in like 03
.

Tim (01:26:53):
Yeah, probably it was around that time I was at the
Ridgely with one of my buddies,rip Zach King, and he liked to
play pool.
So we were playing pool upthere and these guys wanted to
play doubles.
So we were playing and wedidn't know who they were.
And then we were there foranother band and then out comes

(01:27:18):
two of the guys from yellow oryellow card.
You knew, like you, yourecognize their faces and shit.
I didn't know.
And not then I had no idea whothey were.
Yeah, I had no idea.
We weren't there for yellowcard, who was opening, who was
the headlining, that we werethere for another band and, um,
yeah, I just happened to beplaying with them like I don't
know their music or whatever,but if somebody told me I was,
oh, that's cool, it's famous,you know, you know it's probably
shitty, but I don't know.

Kevin (01:27:31):
Okay, uh, so I have a couple, more than a couple, but
so, pantera, um, I went to.
I went to junior high in gun,junior high in arlington, and uh
, this is back when, uh, cowboysfrom hell had just come out
their first album.

Tim (01:27:43):
Yes, and like 91 ish 90, 91 , 92.

Kevin (01:27:47):
Yeah, so we used to play pencil break.
Y'all remember pencil break,okay?
So we used to play pencil breakin the front of the school and
we would all get there like 30,40 minutes before school to
fucking play pencil break and wewould go to toys r us to buy
the expensive pencils, thepentek pencils, okay, anyways,
long story short, we're outsideplaying and it's I'll never
forget, because it's schoolpicture day and my dumb fuck ass

(01:28:08):
has the I don't know if y'allremember the brooks and dunn
flame shirt yes.
I had that fucking shit ongetting ready for pictures right
, and playing pencil breakrunner and then we hear this
fucking loud ass fucking musiccoming right and there's this
single short bed Chevy that'sblaring fucking metal music.
We don't know who the fuck itis and it's four dudes all
bearded out and shit and DimebagI don't know if it was Dimebag

(01:28:30):
at the the time.
He's out of the truck and he'sgot his camera.
He's like, yeah, motherfucker,fuck, yeah, everyone, fuck
school, fuck the vice principal.
You're like, yeah, okay.
So he walked up to us and hecame out and he was shaking our
hands and shit.
We don't know who the fuck heis right.
A week later that video was onMTV and I'm like what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
that's me, holy shit.

Kevin (01:28:50):
You can see my gay ass, brooks and Dunn shirt with
fucking pencils and shit, right,so that was one, uh.
The second one was that thenext two are kind of weird
because they're kind of the samescenario, which is really weird
when you hear it.
So the first one was paulrodriguez the comedian.

Javier (01:29:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, big fan of his son who's his son is paul
rodriguez jr.
He's a skater anyways.

Kevin (01:29:14):
Um so I don't.
You're probably too young toremember desperados.
It was a bar club I do rememberdesperados.

Javier (01:29:20):
I never offer 360.
I was too young for that.
I think it's cowboy it was itturned to cowboys.

Kevin (01:29:24):
No, cowboys is down the street on pioneer parkway, um.
So this was basically the billybobs of the hana music it size,
almost anyways.
So he did a show in town and hewas there on.
It was on Thursday nights.
It was Wine Me Diamond, 6 to 9every night, and for minors it
didn't count because we couldn'tdrink.
But he was there and I was likeholy shit, it's Paul Rodriguez.
And I went to the bathroom and Iended up peeing next to Paul

(01:29:47):
Rodriguez and I'm like, oh shit,I don't want him to think I'm
looking at his dick.
So we go up to the sink and I'm, and before he can wash his
hand, this one dude walks in andhe's like holy shit.
And he stuck his hand.
He's like I just touched mydick.
Man, you wanna shake my hand?
He's like, fuck, yeah, I wannashake your.
And then we went outside and Imade sure to like let him see me
wash my hands.

(01:30:08):
And I walked up with him.
I was like, hey, I don't wantto be a dick.
Draw attention to myself, howyou doing nobody.
He was like thank you for beingcool man, he bought me a drink.
It was cool as shit, dude.
Yeah, so the second one was juangonzalez oh man his second
stint here when we had enar diazas the catcher there replaced
pudge.
Um, that's my first sports carwhen mauve on broke pudge's uh

(01:30:29):
thumb.
I don't remember that.
Uh remember how the next yearpudge won that championship with
the marlins okay, that was myfirst sports cry, because movon
broke his arm, his thumb, andtom hicks was like, well, he
ain't gonna do shit, no one'sgonna get rid of him.
And he traded him.
That was my first sports crywhen he won the championship,
anyways.
So we got our ass handed to usby the yankees and I was in a

(01:30:53):
pool hall and arniston I don'tremember the fucking name of it
it was just me and two otherdudes and Juan and Enard Diaz
and their handler or whateverthe fuck.
And he walks in and I'm like,oh my God, there's Juan Gonzalez
.
And my friend's like yeah, and Isaid that motherfucker struck
out three times a night, Goddamn it.
So we're waiting and waitingand I'm getting my liquid
courage in and he goes to thebathroom and I'm like I'm going
in, dude, I'm going in bro.

(01:31:13):
My friend was like no, dude.
I was like fuck that, I'm goingin dude.
So I walked up and we're peeingI'm peeing next to him and I
looked up at him and I'm likewhat happened tonight, bro?
Seriously, what happened?

Javier (01:31:30):
That'd be cool shit, though I'd feed next to two
celebrities man, that's sofucking cool.

Kevin (01:31:33):
I didn't look at it, though I wanted to.

Javier (01:31:34):
I would've.
I wanted to Let me see what yougot.

Kevin (01:31:36):
Yeah, let me see what you got.

Tim (01:31:38):
You might have been disappointed, though.

Kevin (01:31:39):
I could've man, but you know steroids, true?
Oh yeah, yeah.

Tim (01:31:55):
All right, so we're coming up to.

Kevin (01:31:55):
All right, let's do it all right, gulf of mexico uh-huh
, it should still be gulf mexico, but we could have called it
gulf of come.

Tim (01:32:00):
Yes, because canada, united states, no no, cuba, united
states of mexico, because cuba'spart of the it faces well, yeah
well, you've never seen thememe of canada, united states,
mexico that smells come.

Kevin (01:32:08):
Oh, yeah, okay, we missed out, though we missed that
opportunity, okay, uh, I meanit's just's just, it can still
be changed.

Tim (01:32:15):
It can still be changed.

Kevin (01:32:16):
We only control 20 nautical miles out from the
coast, so he can't do it anyway.

Tim (01:32:20):
That's true, but let's petition for it.
Gulf of Cum, that's the onlyone that I wanted.
If it was going to changeanything.
Gulf of Cum.

Kevin (01:32:27):
Only if we can stand on the Gulf on the beach and just
all ejaculate at one time.
All the men then go, or women?

Tim (01:32:34):
Kind of like what was it?
If you want to, you know.

Javier (01:32:38):
What's the one where they had the hands across
America?

Kevin (01:32:40):
Yeah, yeah, so you do the guy next to you.

Tim (01:32:45):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
a.

Kevin (01:32:46):
Dutch rudder yes.

Tim (01:32:48):
No, you control their arms.

Kevin (01:32:50):
Yeah, but you don't bend the arm.
Okay, you guys just reminded me, so the last time I was here, I
have to ask a question beforeyou go Okay, yeah, yeah.
I had a question I was going toask you guys.
It was a scenario Okay, okay,50,000.
This is a good way to close out.
You can have the physique youwant.
All right Greek God body.

Tim (01:33:07):
Mine's a fat dude that's just eating all the cake,
pringles, canned dick, whateverthe fuck you want.

Kevin (01:33:14):
You can eat whatever you want, drink whatever you want,
literally do whatever you wantto your body.
You will never get sick.
You can live as long as youwant, whatever the fuck.
But once a year, randomly, youhave to be pulled into a room.
And ten dudes you don't touchthem, hold on, you don't touch
them.
You don't do anything to them,but they shoot straight in your

(01:33:39):
mouth.
It doesn't go anywhere else butyour open mouth and it has to
land in your mouth and you haveto swallow Again.
You never touch them.
You never fucking touch you,just baby bird it.

Javier (01:33:51):
Can I just ask you real quick Is this a situation where
I have to hold it in my mouth?

Kevin (01:33:57):
You have to swallow.

Javier (01:33:58):
No, no, no.
But I mean, do I have to waituntil all 10 dudes yes, and then
swallow it once it's basicallya tongue bukkake and it has to
sit there and bubble up.

Tim (01:34:08):
Oh man.

Kevin (01:34:09):
Oh man, until it's all there.
But it's just once a year.
You don't know when it's goingto happen, so you don't have to
anticipate it.

Javier (01:34:19):
What if it's December 31st and then January 1st?

Kevin (01:34:21):
you get two boatloads you get two boatloads that come,
and god forbid that they drink alot of water.
If one starts on this year andthe other finishes on this year,
you're good.
But you can have any physiqueyou want.

Tim (01:34:33):
Fuck it, I'll do it, you're good, but you can have any
physique you want.
Man, I don't know, I don'tthink it's Fuck it, I'll do it,
yeah right, yeah, I mean, it'sgood protein.

Kevin (01:34:39):
You're going to need the protein.

Javier (01:34:41):
I've seen videos like that.
It's not.
It does not look fun.

Kevin (01:34:44):
It's good shiny coat.

Javier (01:34:45):
Oh, my God.

Tim (01:34:47):
I don't know how to feel question.

Kevin (01:34:49):
When I was on here last time and when I go out home, I
was like fuck.

Tim (01:34:52):
I didn't answer it.
I'm surprised you actually.
You held on to well, y'allremember y'all reminded me god
damn, I think my mom's watchingmy wife's watching.

Kevin (01:34:59):
Sorry, babe, it's fine it's fine alright.

Tim (01:35:03):
So we had Kevin on thanks for having me.

Kevin (01:35:04):
Guys remember donate life .
Texasorg, able, please able,able to see us?
Go to my link in my bio.
I'll have one.
He's in the hospital, abelCasillas, for Squeezebox Bandits
.
We've got to help him out.

Javier (01:35:18):
And we will link that in our Instagram page.

Kevin (01:35:22):
Sorry, we didn't talk about it no no, no, no it's fine
.

Javier (01:35:25):
I'm glad I remembered.

Kevin (01:35:26):
Thank you.

Javier (01:35:27):
Also, we are on all social media platforms at the
Funky Panther.
Follow us on Twitter, youtube,instagram, facebook, onlyfans
what else?
But also we got a phone number,tim.
What is that?

Tim (01:35:41):
phone number I don't know, 817-677-0408.

Javier (01:35:47):
Again, it's 817-677-0408 .
Kevin, thank you so much forcoming on a second time.
And again, man, it's been toolong since you've been here, so
we're glad to have you on.

Tim (01:35:57):
I appreciate it.
I have a question.
Chad, shut the fuck up.
What is it?
What gets you going?

Javier (01:36:02):
Wait, wait, wait wait, wait, Hold on wait.
Oh my God, we forgot to do thisTurn the music down.

Kevin (01:36:15):
more thing we got one more was that a drop?
That was a drop, that was wegot a lot of question uh, what
is it?
What is chad?

Tim (01:36:18):
what's that robot?
If you were going to be on onetv show, what would it be?
Mine would be the cosby show,for obvious reasons wow, drew
carey show chad.

Javier (01:36:25):
How dare you?
You just wanted to all right.

Tim (01:36:27):
So we got one thing we gotta talk.
Yeah, we gotta whatever, let'sdo it okay, real quick so I got
all I gotta, I gotta pull this.

Javier (01:36:33):
Okay, pull it up, all right.

Tim (01:36:34):
So, uh, keep talking we went to casper high school uh,
javier and I did.
We grew up over here and ourbuddy, uh sam, he wanted to be
on.
We're like dude, we already gotsomething going on.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
Uh, we got kevin coming on no, it's okay.

Tim (01:36:45):
It's okay.
Uh, it was the last minutething, um, but he has a special
event that's happening and it'skind of a it's a gala fundraiser
, uh situation.
It's going to be at this reallyfancy country club and javier
is going to read it.

Javier (01:37:01):
Yeah, it's it's going to be, uh, april 11th at 6 pm at
the ridgely country club, uh.
Private donations to thefoundation benefit students and
teachers by supportingactivities not funded by tax
dollars.
The foundation's initiativeteaching grants allow teachers
to take a more creative approachto education and dream bigger.
Student scholarships areawarded annually to help ensure
that Castleberry ISD graduatescontinue their path to success

(01:37:24):
even after they leave thedistrict.
Grants and scholarshiprecipients are chosen carefully
by our volunteer board ofdirectors and community partners
on an anonymous basis to ensureevery student, teacher or staff
member is judged by merit.
This is a really good thingthat they're doing for the
students, because I mean, look,do you think I qualify?
No, you've already graduated.

(01:37:45):
We're actually been out for awhile you've been out for a
while, but, um, we're gonna linkeverything to our bio.
Um, if you have a chance todonate, we'll post a link on
instagram, but, um, the event'sgoing to be april 11th.
Uh, tickets are on sale now.
Uh, you can go to myonecausecomif I can find the other stuff
that's in there.

(01:38:05):
But look up cassiberryeducation foundation 2025 golden
gala.
Again, it's at the ridgelycrunch country club.
It's for a good cause andplease help the kids.
I actually prefer the RidgelyCrunch Country Club.
It's for a good cause andplease help the kids out.

Tim (01:38:15):
I actually prefer the Ridgely Crunchy Club, crunchy
Club, the Crunchy Club's evenbetter.

Kevin (01:38:19):
And if you can't donate retweet, repost it.
Repost, please Retwizzle.

Tim (01:38:25):
For this and same thing for GoFundMe fundraiser for Abel.

Javier (01:38:30):
Casillas, I'll post something about it.
For Abel Casillas, I'll postsomething about it.

Tim (01:38:32):
Yeah, so if you don't know, we've had Abel on Squeezebox
Bandits.
He's the front man.
Puts on a great show he is theSqueezebox man himself and he's
going to need a little bit ofhelp because obviously while
you're in the hospital you can'tmake a living if you're a
touring musician.

Kevin (01:38:47):
And that's his only job.

Javier (01:38:57):
That's his, actually does it for a living like you
know, yeah, he hustles man.
Yeah, so all right, so we'regonna throw this back up.
You guys are sexy and theapples are great.
Thank you so much, kevin.
Man, we love you.
Thank you for coming on andagain, um, find us everywhere.
We'll link those stuff in thebio and we love you guys.
Thanks again for listening andwatching.
I'm javier, I'm tim, I'm kevinand we are the funky panthers
death to Nazis.
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